this is the first show that I can remember that I don't want it to end. I'm literally gonna fight depression after this show ends. lol. Best show in years
Of course Anna is great but huge shoutout to Fumi Nikaido - her acting throughout has been superb and brought Ochiba no Kata to life with all her complexity 👏
3:32 It's like Ochiba no Kata let the internal conflict show for just one second before returning to the mask. The subtle acting in this show is insane
@@Kono_D._OdaThis is when the mask crumbles and she has to hide her face from Mariko. I'm talking about when she's still fighting against it and loses for half a second. Fantastic performance
The phrase "花は桜木、人は武士" (hana wa sakuragi, hito wa bushi) is a Japanese proverb that translates to "Among flowers, the cherry blossom; among men, the samurai." This expression emphasizes the ideal qualities associated with cherry blossoms and samurai. Cherry blossoms, or sakura, are revered for their beauty and their transient nature, blooming brilliantly and then swiftly falling away. This is seen as a metaphor for the ideal attributes of a samurai, who was expected to live with courage, honor, and an acute awareness of the ephemeral nature of life, ready to sacrifice himself at any moment for his lord and principles. The saying highlights the embodiment of beauty and brevity in flowers and the virtues of bravery and honor in people.
Thanks for explaining that. The English subtitles did it no justice - "flowers are only flowers because they fall" wat, that makes no sense, they're flower b/c they bloom. But you made it make sense.
Fr, cuz if this show was set in present year 2024. Blackthorn would’ve gotten the car ready so Mariko and him can peacefully leave. Definitely the modern equivalent of that tbh.
You all are missing the subtlety here. If this was an earlier episode, they would have expected Blackthorne to be that ill mannered and not bow before leaving. However, at this point, he absolutely knows his manners within the culture, and he knows Lady Ociba’s extremely high rank. Him leaving like that without bowing is him intentionally showing his level of displeasure and disrespect towards Lady Ochiba for saying words that hurt Lady Mariko, who he very clearly has feelings for. Even Mariko takes a very brief moment to realize this after she bows and notices that Blackthorne knows better, but has chosen to make his disdain for Lady Ochiba super plain because he has feelings for her.
@@EbonySeraphim So sorry, but you are mistaken. Blackthorne was off camera as Lady Mariko said, "We should go now". Lady Mariko bows and without question Blackthorne bowed deeply at the same time, off camera. Only after moments of bowing did he turn and stride a respectful distance away. Blackthorne knew that for both their sakes, his being respectful to Lady Ochiba was essential, especially at the very moment Lady Ochiba was raising her voice to Lady Mariko.
This episode (Crimson Sky) is one of the best episodes of television in forever and was the masterpiece of the series. Mariko's powerful defiance of Ishido, her poetic and subtextual talk with Lady Ochiba (flowers are flowers), her defiant attempt to leave the castle, the powerful understanding between her and Blackthorne, when he steps forward to second her when she dares to commit seppuku, and her tragic death (let it come). It was a breath-taking performance by Anna Sawei; the more you revisit this episode, the more powerful her words and actions become. It was a tour de force and I will remember it for a very long time. One person truly can topple an army. Amazing
The script is touching audiences hearts. And the acting of the ladies in this scene is so real it made me feel the pain. The pain as if they suffer in their real life.
Tamako Akechi, the real Mariko, refused to be taken hostage and committed suicide. final farewell poem "Flowers are beautiful because they know when to fall. Humans must be like that too. Now is the time to fall."
Mariko was able to say goodbye to her best friend before she went. The bond between friends are very strong, I'm sure Ochiba was heartbroken upon learning of what happened.
This is also why she assured that Mariko's family honor would be restored when she stated that "We will graciously honor her burial." before any consideration of war. Even though it was her own father that was murdered, she wouldn't have done that if she truly believed Akechi Jinsei's actions were not for the betterment of Japan's future.
@@dannmarquardt1640 It's also very interesting how much Ochiba loved Mariko; Mariko's father killed Ochiba's but Ochiba just passed the blame and anger to Toranaga instead, and fixated on it.
hands down… the deepest writing i’ve seen on tv…. Mariko took it to the very end… literally fighting, all the time wanting to go out but choosing exactly what cause she was going out for… the volumes that speaks is so crazy to me… *does a bow*
Read the book too. The book will grip your soul and you will be forever emotionally bonded to Clavell's genius characterisations. IMO Clavell is a great Reincarnated Japanese Storyteller as he has LIVED what he tells.
I await the extended version DVD/Blu-Ray box set, with commentary, behind the scenes, and all the bells and whistles of the Lord of the Rings Extended box sets. Please make it so! This is one of, if not the greatest, shows I have ever seen. Everyone outdid themselves. It puts every other production to shame. Writing, acting, set design, dialogue, historical accuracy, adaptation for the screen, everything. Hopefully it wins all the awards. It deserves it. Anna was stunning. I've seen it once streaming but I'll watch the entire thing again. Hopefully there is a really nice box set though!
@@guyjackson132 I've watched some, but I'd like longer pieces. Full length commentary on episodes with some production people, showrunners and/or actors, longer pieces on historical accuracy, set design, costume design. Differences of old to modern Japanese. The possibilities are endless here, and I'd invest in it.
Yeah, I saw this too. I think it's like an extended clip, as in a-long-clip rather than a longer scene than was aired. I'm a little disappointed by the confusing title wording.
Slažem se druže; zaista fantastična gluma, izvanredna postavka od glavnih glumaca do svakog statiste. Moje najiskrenije čestitke kompletnoj ekipi i veliko hvala na ovako izuzetnoj seriji!
no matter how beautiful the courtesan is, when the words are written by a snake, There should be no beauty found. Just like this horrible movie. skip it and watch the original or just skip that if you don't have 20 hours and read the book. Anything made today about something already old, will just ruin the story
The actress is so skilled. It really sells the eightfold fence. Theres moments you can see her true thought and feelings. But in an instant, its gone and it just the cold perfection. But mariko is a wordsmith and know where the stab too. Thats why her poetry always wins and she is a good translator. Then there's the Heir whos such a pawn in the game that even though he is "ruler" of japan, he can just walk out of this meeting called in his name
Can i say, the acting on this series was very superb. They really nailed their character, take mariko in this one where i could not see any actress nailing this role.
Hana wa chirugayueni hana nanode gozarimasuru (Flowers are flowers because they fall) at 4:33. It's a comforting echo of a classic sentence that no longer exists in modern Japanese. Although the phrase is longer than the modern version, the sound conveys a deeper meaning and resonates with the heart.
This is legend level writing and acting and everything else. Ochiba is just pummeling Mariko over and over again - trying to manipulate her and get her to spill what plans Toranaga has so she can counter them. As Mariko said, this was a ruse (the Heir wanting to talk to Anjin) and away she went. This show can make talking scenes so intense you hold your breath.
Interestingly, I read it very differently. Ocibana is not trying to manipulate Mariko to reveal Toranagas's plan. She tries to save her old friend from committing what she sees as pointless suicide.
@@Magnarud I agree with you. Ochiba didn't need to know what plans Toranaga has. They became perfectly clear to her when she saw Ishido falling into the trap of choosing between Mariko's seppuku or loss of hostages. She has genuine feelings for Mariko, even though they're on the other side of the fight.
I doubt that was the reason, i haven't read the novel but if they follow the real historical counterpart i think the only thing she wants is avoiding more pointless deaths of people close to her. Ochiba is probably the most tragic figure in this story, she lost so much that at this point in the story you can see how broken she is.
I am Japanese. Below is the death poem of Mrs. Garasha Hosokawa, the model for Mariko. Only when is it known when to fall in the world A flower is a flower and a human is a human They say, ``Cherry blossoms are beautiful because they know when to fall.'' Mariko may have been searching for her end from the beginning.
I love the writing and acting by both here. Ochiba is not Mariko's enemy -- she loves her and wants her friend to live. They're both shattered by life but Mariko is an idealist (hence Christian) would prefer to die for her ideals than live as a husk, and Ochiba's core is much more of a survivor; she's willing to do whatever it takes to win and live for her son, and sees death as surrender. They're both correct in their own way.
I feel so hollow after the final episode and having a lot of dreams about this place and time... I wish Mariko's journey eneded differently. Don't know if other seasons will have a strong character like here
Instead of a 30 second YT short, we get the entire scene from beginning to end. Just a gorgeous scene with two female characters eating up their lines, the only man after his opening lines stands silent as the two frenemies talk. One circles like a tiger trying to see a weakness, the other withstanding the questioning, standing like a rock, letting the waves hit and flow away, standing proudly, never losing control and letting the other know who has the power.
@@milosmilosmilos thing is when we see "extended" we think there were some extra content cut from this scene of the original airing of the episode. this was uploaded 5 hours ago, and the episode aired more than 24 hours before that when most people already have seen the episode. kind of click baity. it's not an extended "scene from ep 9" as they worded it. it's an "extended cut of the promo they uploaded prior"
1:19 Fascinating is, "You can't bring nobility to your lord's warmongering; by being a worm on Toranaga's lure, you will not win your freedom." Only an unwise fish would strike the bait.
I have a feeling Ochiba thought, Marikos peom was adressed at her. So she believed Mariko to be there on Toronagas behalf and with hatreted for her. But here she makes it clear, that she's not wishing any bad ill on Ochiba and that she's talking about herself and her willingness to sacrifice herself accepting her death not to hurt Ochiba but to fight Ishido. I believe she somehow convinced Ochiba, that she as the mother of the heir, is not Toronagas enemy but rather just Ishido. And when Ishido killed Mariko with his actions and acting very cold about it and her proper burial, he turned her away.
It's very interesting how much Ochiba loved Mariko; Mariko's father killed Ochiba's but Ochiba passed the blame and anger to Toranaga instead and fixated on it. Then later, makes a martyr of Mariko herself. It's sad to see how the circumstances of their lives and families led them to this.
@@GregR9712old way of speaking Japanese. Think there more words and placement of the word was noticeably different from now day's Japanese speaking way.
Mariko and Lady Ochiba still had immense love for each other, they were like sisters. But the life struggles kept them apart and they had their own battles to finish. In the end.... Ah I wont spoil 🤫
Old Japanese way of making the sentence polite. When you hear modern day Japanese, tabemasu(to eat) pronounced ta-be-mas the 'u' is silent. Old Japanese would be tabemasuru ta-be-ma-su-ru. Just a ending to a verb, respectful, polite way of speaking. Remember, when you hear Mariko speaking, it is often in the presence of lords, ladies and high ranked samurai and retainers. This was the way she and other high ranked lords and ladies normally spoke to each other in formal settings. But even today, if you want to be very polite you can say arigato-go-zai-ma-SU by saying the 'u'. instead of arigato go-zai-mas silent 'u'. Thank you very much vs Thank you.
More of a jidaigeki thing, i believe they would have said 候ふ (pronounced sourou) They do say it once when someone read out a letter which was in authentic classical japanese
Mariko face card does some to meee . She’s the only reason I watched . Idk y I thought she was gonna eat those men up 😩😩 I had so much faith in her ugh imma miss her very sad ending . I love what she said about flowers only being flowers because they die 😩🙌 she was such a good poet
They can create a season two. Clavell closed the story line in the book with a continued speech of things to come after Marico died. Marico’s death Resulted in Anjin-San devoting himself in remembering her memory by accepting the Japanese way of life and making full allegiance to Torronaga’s quest to become Shogun. In this way Anjin-San was also continuing Marico’s revenge for her families unjust demise. Japanese history itself shows a whole lifetime of historical facts that show that Anjin-San helped Toronaga to change the fate/history of Japan. With the help of the Clavell family. FX could surely continue the saga and keep the same vibe/lyric of the show. With the continued popularity of the two TV series, past and present. I would think FX could make a GOTesque season 2, 3, 4, 5,…etc! WHY WOULD’NT THEY???
They should depart from Clavel’s vision and bring Mariko back. Fake her death and Burrial (her pulse was never checked in the show). The love tension she had with John carried this show by a mile, and would easily carry any future seasons. I don’t believe this relationship can be recreated or replaced easily.
Spoiler Alert to anyone who has not watched, or at least finished watching.... I'm sad that they killed off Mariko-sama. She was an awesome character. I really liked her and Fuji-sama both.
i know they keep using the word sister but there were absolutely romantic/“yuri” elements to mariko and ochiba’s relationship. hints in this scene but more visible in their full episode with the flashbacks
Any japanese here, i noticed most of the sentences end with gozarimasirisu, gozarimasruka...gozara looks like meaning permission, so is it a politeness suffix , like with your permission plz etc...
this is the first show that I can remember that I don't want it to end. I'm literally gonna fight depression after this show ends. lol. Best show in years
I agree. Nowadays we get many bad movies and series. This one was really good after some time.
Same feeling here !!
And no Season 2 either. I'll appoint you as the Shogun Withdrawal Depressed Club President. I'll grieve along with you.
since GoT season 1
Feeling so so sad 😢😢😢
Of course Anna is great but huge shoutout to Fumi Nikaido - her acting throughout has been superb and brought Ochiba no Kata to life with all her complexity 👏
Totally agree.
Agreed. And when the both of them are interposed, both shine like stars.
Her comedian roles are great too!
@@Geezman1977 It was also the first time you see Ochiba being vulnerable. She appeared cold and ruthless throughout the show until this episode.
3:32 It's like Ochiba no Kata let the internal conflict show for just one second before returning to the mask. The subtle acting in this show is insane
It's actually unsettling to see the subtle yet instant change in her face
woah I never caught that part. Nice spotting
3:40
@@Kono_D._OdaThis is when the mask crumbles and she has to hide her face from Mariko. I'm talking about when she's still fighting against it and loses for half a second. Fantastic performance
Fumi Nikaido did a great job as Ochiba No Kata!
The phrase "花は桜木、人は武士" (hana wa sakuragi, hito wa bushi) is a Japanese proverb that translates to "Among flowers, the cherry blossom; among men, the samurai." This expression emphasizes the ideal qualities associated with cherry blossoms and samurai. Cherry blossoms, or sakura, are revered for their beauty and their transient nature, blooming brilliantly and then swiftly falling away. This is seen as a metaphor for the ideal attributes of a samurai, who was expected to live with courage, honor, and an acute awareness of the ephemeral nature of life, ready to sacrifice himself at any moment for his lord and principles. The saying highlights the embodiment of beauty and brevity in flowers and the virtues of bravery and honor in people.
That's super cool, I love that, thank you 🌸
Thank you for the interpretation 🙂
Well said
Thanks for explaining that. The English subtitles did it no justice - "flowers are only flowers because they fall" wat, that makes no sense, they're flower b/c they bloom. But you made it make sense.
"The moment of perfection as the falling of the cherry blossom"
Anjin is like "you don't need to tell me twice!"
real
Mariko: "We need to leave"
Anjin: **practically already at the door, waiting for Mariko**
Fr, cuz if this show was set in present year 2024. Blackthorn would’ve gotten the car ready so Mariko and him can peacefully leave. Definitely the modern equivalent of that tbh.
As Lady Ochiba says in this scene, "Mariko always knew where to stand, and when to leave the room without being asked". Poetic. Poignant.
exactly
You all are missing the subtlety here. If this was an earlier episode, they would have expected Blackthorne to be that ill mannered and not bow before leaving. However, at this point, he absolutely knows his manners within the culture, and he knows Lady Ociba’s extremely high rank. Him leaving like that without bowing is him intentionally showing his level of displeasure and disrespect towards Lady Ochiba for saying words that hurt Lady Mariko, who he very clearly has feelings for. Even Mariko takes a very brief moment to realize this after she bows and notices that Blackthorne knows better, but has chosen to make his disdain for Lady Ochiba super plain because he has feelings for her.
@@EbonySeraphim So sorry, but you are mistaken. Blackthorne was off camera as Lady Mariko said, "We should go now". Lady Mariko bows and without question Blackthorne bowed deeply at the same time, off camera. Only after moments of bowing did he turn and stride a respectful distance away.
Blackthorne knew that for both their sakes, his being respectful to Lady Ochiba was essential, especially at the very moment Lady Ochiba was raising her voice to Lady Mariko.
This episode (Crimson Sky) is one of the best episodes of television in forever and was the masterpiece of the series. Mariko's powerful defiance of Ishido, her poetic and subtextual talk with Lady Ochiba (flowers are flowers), her defiant attempt to leave the castle, the powerful understanding between her and Blackthorne, when he steps forward to second her when she dares to commit seppuku, and her tragic death (let it come). It was a breath-taking performance by Anna Sawei; the more you revisit this episode, the more powerful her words and actions become. It was a tour de force and I will remember it for a very long time. One person truly can topple an army. Amazing
😂 at least spell her name correctly 😢🎉😮
@@pali_aha why is your comment having an emotional breakdown
Mariko - as a poem master - can spit words with fire!!
The Taiko''s mom is right. Mariko is full of herself.
@@DrCruel Nah. She executes her mission flawlessly - like a male samurai!
Is hulu has arabic sub??
she was better in the original, here shes not really good.
Poems like weapons. What a bonfire would they make indeed! Brilliant!
The script is touching audiences hearts. And the acting of the ladies in this scene is so real it made me feel the pain. The pain as if they suffer in their real life.
Tamako Akechi, the real Mariko, refused to be taken hostage and committed suicide.
final farewell poem
"Flowers are beautiful because they know when to fall. Humans must be like that too. Now is the time to fall."
自殺ではないよ。クリスチャンは自殺は出来ないので、小笠原という部下に槍で胸を突かせたんだよ。
その人は明智光秀の娘ですか？
知りませんでした
細川ガラシャがモデルだとも聞きましたが2人ともモデルなんでしょうね
@@ksmsepk607
明智珠子（玉子）＝ 細川ガラシャ
明智光秀の三女が細川忠興の正室となり
その後クリスチャンの洗礼を受けガラシャ
（Gratia ラテン語で神の恵みの意味）
というクリスチャンネームをもらったようです
@@hachidayo ありがとうございます！
質問した後で他の人のコメントで初めて同一人物と知りました
無知なコメントしてしまい申し訳ありませんでした！
@@ksmsepk607
実は自分も最近まで知らなかったんです
細川ガラシャって「魔界転生」の細川ガラシャしか知らなくて・・
wikiとかでいろいろ調べました
Mariko was able to say goodbye to her best friend before she went. The bond between friends are very strong, I'm sure Ochiba was heartbroken upon learning of what happened.
This is also why she assured that Mariko's family honor would be restored when she stated that "We will graciously honor her burial." before any consideration of war. Even though it was her own father that was murdered, she wouldn't have done that if she truly believed Akechi Jinsei's actions were not for the betterment of Japan's future.
@@dannmarquardt1640 It's also very interesting how much Ochiba loved Mariko; Mariko's father killed Ochiba's but Ochiba just passed the blame and anger to Toranaga instead, and fixated on it.
they did it
hands down… the deepest writing i’ve seen on tv…. Mariko took it to the very end… literally fighting, all the time wanting to go out but choosing exactly what cause she was going out for… the volumes that speaks is so crazy to me… *does a bow*
its based on a novel that why its deep
Read the book too. The book will grip your soul and you will be forever emotionally bonded to Clavell's genius characterisations. IMO Clavell is a great Reincarnated Japanese Storyteller as he has LIVED what he tells.
I await the extended version DVD/Blu-Ray box set, with commentary, behind the scenes, and all the bells and whistles of the Lord of the Rings Extended box sets. Please make it so! This is one of, if not the greatest, shows I have ever seen. Everyone outdid themselves. It puts every other production to shame. Writing, acting, set design, dialogue, historical accuracy, adaptation for the screen, everything. Hopefully it wins all the awards. It deserves it. Anna was stunning. I've seen it once streaming but I'll watch the entire thing again. Hopefully there is a really nice box set though!
i’ve been saying this too!! i NEED to own the physical version of this show like i need air
Completely agree!
Have you been watching the Extras on Hulu? They're a separate tab at the top of the interface.
Shut up and take my money FX. Make this happen
@@guyjackson132 I've watched some, but I'd like longer pieces. Full length commentary on episodes with some production people, showrunners and/or actors, longer pieces on historical accuracy, set design, costume design. Differences of old to modern Japanese. The possibilities are endless here, and I'd invest in it.
Anna played so great. Look at her facial expression, telling everything what's in her heart at that moment.
I feel like I want extended version of everything here!!! I hope for a longer version ASAP!
Is hulu has arabic sub??
finally - finally a good show to watch - probably should win every award there is .
Gobsmacked. The writing. The context. What is there to say in regards of the most sophisticated performance? Unforgettable.
Incredible scene, beautifully written, so much going on here ... just WOW.
As others pointed out Anna is brilliant but Fumi deserves much praise too, so nuanced.....👌
"Beauty is only beautiful because it doesn't last."
"死後"を受け入れることは、すなわち、負けること、諦めることではございません。
花は散るがゆえに花なのです。
散りぬべき時知りてこそ世の中の
花も花なれ人も人なれ
花は散る時を知っているからこそ、花は花なのです。人は人なのでございます。
花ならば散るが覚悟、雪ならば消ゆるが覚悟、もののふの妻ならば耐えるが覚悟。
二階堂ふみマジで演技上手い
The line about flowers is like a cherry on top of an ice cream. Chef's kiss
if you don't understand....its more the finger, dunno how you got the opposite impression than was supposed to be implied
The Japanese language sounds so beautiful and fast.
Extended? This is exactly what I saw, what did everyone else see?
🤔👍
Exactly! I was waiting for the ”extended” part
It's a ruse 😂
Same here.
Yeah, I saw this too. I think it's like an extended clip, as in a-long-clip rather than a longer scene than was aired. I'm a little disappointed by the confusing title wording.
Slažem se druže; zaista fantastična gluma, izvanredna postavka od glavnih glumaca do svakog statiste. Moje najiskrenije čestitke kompletnoj ekipi i veliko hvala na ovako izuzetnoj seriji!
言葉の一つ一つが美しく胸に響く。日本語の美しさ汲めども尽きない言霊の深さ。日本語は人類の宝です。
なんであれ、身につける事が大切で、
身に付けずして、例え身に付けても、それを誇る事は最悪です。
@@岩舟明そのことは全てに言えるし、自分の客観視。
no matter how beautiful the courtesan is, when the words are written by a snake, There should be no beauty found. Just like this horrible movie. skip it and watch the original or just skip that if you don't have 20 hours and read the book. Anything made today about something already old, will just ruin the story
@@ravinraven6913 私たち日本人はキリスト的例えは、理解しにくいです。私がここで言って居るのは、日本語の深さ深淵を言って居るのです。日本では言葉には魂が宿る言霊と言います。
The actress is so skilled. It really sells the eightfold fence. Theres moments you can see her true thought and feelings. But in an instant, its gone and it just the cold perfection. But mariko is a wordsmith and know where the stab too. Thats why her poetry always wins and she is a good translator.
Then there's the Heir whos such a pawn in the game that even though he is "ruler" of japan, he can just walk out of this meeting called in his name
Can i say, the acting on this series was very superb. They really nailed their character, take mariko in this one where i could not see any actress nailing this role.
Hana wa chirugayueni hana nanode gozarimasuru (Flowers are flowers because they fall) at 4:33.
It's a comforting echo of a classic sentence that no longer exists in modern Japanese. Although the phrase is longer than the modern version, the sound conveys a deeper meaning and resonates with the heart.
Costume Design better win an Emmy.
I can see awards everywhere in this show !!!!
The heir didn’t care about the anjin. She just used that as an excuse to talk to Mariko
no way!! really?
@@dfjanus8014 hey I’m slow ok!?
@@lockiet7227😭🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂@@dfjanus8014
@@lockiet7227 ma boi just said he is slow 😭😭😭😭
This show is so good! 😢
The writing and acting is superb in this scene👌🏽
if you like bad writing and acting....the original scenes are so much better even if they look so much worse.
When Mariko is on the screen you cannot take your eyes off of her….
Anjin chucked them deuces way, wayyyyyyyyyy in advance of Mariko going “let’s bounce”. 😆
In other words,
Ochiba: Don't die, live
Mariko: Please understand
Ochiba try to manipulate Mariko,,
more like.. don't commit sudoku otherwise my plan will fail.
@@tenzintsenpey5274 well it is a tough game 😂😂😂
This is legend level writing and acting and everything else. Ochiba is just pummeling Mariko over and over again - trying to manipulate her and get her to spill what plans Toranaga has so she can counter them. As Mariko said, this was a ruse (the Heir wanting to talk to Anjin) and away she went. This show can make talking scenes so intense you hold your breath.
Interestingly, I read it very differently. Ocibana is not trying to manipulate Mariko to reveal Toranagas's plan. She tries to save her old friend from committing what she sees as pointless suicide.
@@Magnarud So many levels - fantastic show :)
@@Hossak Absolutely. It's a reference drama, for sure.
@@Magnarud I agree with you. Ochiba didn't need to know what plans Toranaga has. They became perfectly clear to her when she saw Ishido falling into the trap of choosing between Mariko's seppuku or loss of hostages. She has genuine feelings for Mariko, even though they're on the other side of the fight.
I doubt that was the reason, i haven't read the novel but if they follow the real historical counterpart i think the only thing she wants is avoiding more pointless deaths of people close to her. Ochiba is probably the most tragic figure in this story, she lost so much that at this point in the story you can see how broken she is.
I am Japanese.
Below is the death poem of Mrs. Garasha Hosokawa, the model for Mariko.
Only when is it known when to fall in the world
A flower is a flower and a human is a human
They say, ``Cherry blossoms are beautiful because they know when to fall.''
Mariko may have been searching for her end from the beginning.
I spent 16 nights in May-June 2024 in Japan without actually dreaming about it, so upon my return, I tried to learn everything about Japan.
Anjin's like have no idea what they are talking about but it's making me feel uncomfortable
I love the writing and acting by both here. Ochiba is not Mariko's enemy -- she loves her and wants her friend to live. They're both shattered by life but Mariko is an idealist (hence Christian) would prefer to die for her ideals than live as a husk, and Ochiba's core is much more of a survivor; she's willing to do whatever it takes to win and live for her son, and sees death as surrender. They're both correct in their own way.
wonderfully said! It's just tragic that their family's circumstances led them to be pitted against each other like this. Heartbreaking all around.
Shōgun La Serie Es La Mejor Serie De La Historia Del Mundo 🌎🌍 Mundial 🌎🌍 De Mundo 🌎🌍 Enteró.
Lady Ochiba was really hurt by that.
That scene is so good!
Ochiba speaking is all ❤❤❤
Anna Sawai is absolutely gorgeous!
It’s also amusing how different she is to her character in real life
主張と感情が混乱している落ち葉の方に対し、心が決まっている鞠子の心情を
目線の使い方でも演出しているのがすごいよなあ
All the japanese actors in this series were superb..James Clavell would be proud...
I feel so hollow after the final episode and having a lot of dreams about this place and time... I wish Mariko's journey eneded differently. Don't know if other seasons will have a strong character like here
2:08 - love the side to side frame
Every frame a painting
Is this extended? Isn't this the original cut of the episode?
That's what I thought...
Instead of a 30 second YT short, we get the entire scene from beginning to end. Just a gorgeous scene with two female characters eating up their lines, the only man after his opening lines stands silent as the two frenemies talk. One circles like a tiger trying to see a weakness, the other withstanding the questioning, standing like a rock, letting the waves hit and flow away, standing proudly, never losing control and letting the other know who has the power.
They usually post very short clips from the show. In this case “extended” meant it lasted longer.
@@milosmilosmilos thing is when we see "extended" we think there were some extra content cut from this scene of the original airing of the episode. this was uploaded 5 hours ago, and the episode aired more than 24 hours before that when most people already have seen the episode. kind of click baity.
it's not an extended "scene from ep 9" as they worded it. it's an "extended cut of the promo they uploaded prior"
An absolute work of art!!
1:19 Fascinating is, "You can't bring nobility to your lord's warmongering; by being a worm on Toranaga's lure, you will not win your freedom."
Only an unwise fish would strike the bait.
I went to Japan two weeks ago and no one I talked to had watched this show or showed interest in it
Why would they? It’s a Hollywood fantasy of Japan. They live in the real thing.
I have a feeling Ochiba thought, Marikos peom was adressed at her. So she believed Mariko to be there on Toronagas behalf and with hatreted for her. But here she makes it clear, that she's not wishing any bad ill on Ochiba and that she's talking about herself and her willingness to sacrifice herself accepting her death not to hurt Ochiba but to fight Ishido. I believe she somehow convinced Ochiba, that she as the mother of the heir, is not Toronagas enemy but rather just Ishido. And when Ishido killed Mariko with his actions and acting very cold about it and her proper burial, he turned her away.
It's very interesting how much Ochiba loved Mariko; Mariko's father killed Ochiba's but Ochiba passed the blame and anger to Toranaga instead and fixated on it. Then later, makes a martyr of Mariko herself. It's sad to see how the circumstances of their lives and families led them to this.
Flowers are only flowers because they fall😢
This and Yellowstone are the best tv shows to come out in recent years, imo.
Omy god such drama. I love the character. ❤❤❤❤❤
old japanese are so beautiful.
Who's old? Anna Sawai is 31 and Fumi Nikaido is 29.
I think he meant the language/the way they speak.
@@GregR9712old way of speaking Japanese. Think there more words and placement of the word was noticeably different from now day's Japanese speaking way.
彼等の生き様は、花が散るが如く潔いです。
It’s actually quite different from modern Japanese.
Thank you for showing this scene, Hulu🙂👍, but I don't see the "extended" part.
Mariko and Lady Ochiba still had immense love for each other, they were like sisters. But the life struggles kept them apart and they had their own battles to finish. In the end.... Ah I wont spoil 🤫
この長いバージョンの方が二人の感情がとても良くわかった。できれば、SHOGUNの他の場面での放映されなかった部分も付け加えて、ロングバージョンで再放送して欲しいです。
Anna and Fumi had amazing chemistry as opponent
Us: Now can we get the extended extended version?
Anjin: I'll take the spark notes please.
What's the "masaru" sound at the end of nearly every sentence Mariko says ?
Gozari-masuru is ancient auxiliary verb of being polite in front of your superiors.
@@doris31882 thanks
At this age, people had been saying "gozarimasuru" and it have changed into what we say "gozaimasu" or simply "desu" in modern Japanese now.
Old Japanese way of making the sentence polite. When you hear modern day Japanese, tabemasu(to eat) pronounced ta-be-mas the 'u' is silent. Old Japanese would be tabemasuru ta-be-ma-su-ru. Just a ending to a verb, respectful, polite way of speaking. Remember, when you hear Mariko speaking, it is often in the presence of lords, ladies and high ranked samurai and retainers. This was the way she and other high ranked lords and ladies normally spoke to each other in formal settings. But even today, if you want to be very polite you can say arigato-go-zai-ma-SU by saying the 'u'. instead of arigato go-zai-mas silent 'u'. Thank you very much vs Thank you.
More of a jidaigeki thing, i believe they would have said 候ふ (pronounced sourou)
They do say it once when someone read out a letter which was in authentic classical japanese
Song name? 2:33
I was well and truly gutted by the last 3 minutes of this episode 😢
Mariko face card does some to meee . She’s the only reason I watched . Idk y I thought she was gonna eat those men up 😩😩 I had so much faith in her ugh imma miss her very sad ending . I love what she said about flowers only being flowers because they die 😩🙌 she was such a good poet
Mariko is my favorite character ☺️☺️
film making like that should be taught in schools!
Is hulu has arabic sub??
Does anyone know the song's name in this scene (starting about 3:41)?
あり得なくはないんだけど、マリコが落葉の方を「そなた」と呼ぶのは違和感がある。なんか距離感の詰め方で当時の親密さを表そうとしたんだろうけど、演者さんの理解の解像度が追いついてない気がする。ほんとにほんとに素晴らしいんだけど、そこだけ気になる。
アホか。演者が勝手に台詞を作って喋っていると思ってるのか？アタマ確かかよ。文句があるなら脚本から何からすべてプロデュースした真田 広之に言えよｗ
They can create a season two.
Clavell closed the story line in the book with a continued speech of things to come after Marico died. Marico’s death Resulted in Anjin-San devoting himself in remembering her memory by accepting the Japanese way of life and making full allegiance to Torronaga’s quest to become Shogun.
In this way Anjin-San was also continuing Marico’s revenge for her families unjust demise.
Japanese history itself shows a whole lifetime of historical facts that show that Anjin-San helped Toronaga to change the fate/history of Japan.
With the help of the Clavell family.
FX could surely continue the saga and keep the same vibe/lyric of the show.
With the continued popularity of the two TV series, past and present.
I would think FX could make a GOTesque season 2, 3, 4, 5,…etc!
WHY WOULD’NT THEY???
They should depart from Clavel’s vision and bring Mariko back. Fake her death and Burrial (her pulse was never checked in the show).
The love tension she had with John carried this show by a mile, and would easily carry any future seasons.
I don’t believe this relationship can be recreated or replaced easily.
This isn't extended. It's how the scene was.
masterful
Is hulu has arabic sub??
so anjin sama being there is just an excuse for Ochiba to talk to Mariko ?
Exactly.
Spoiler Alert to anyone who has not watched, or at least finished watching....
I'm sad that they killed off Mariko-sama. She was an awesome character. I really liked her and Fuji-sama both.
Tears
言葉の抑揚や発声のたおやかさが、往年の大女優、京マチ子さんや山田五十鈴さんのようです。
Wanted more from the final scene, but otherwise another great episode!
Woooo. The end of the episode got me shocked! I can't wait for the next episode.
I wanted LESS from the final scene, like, for it to not have happened 😅 ... 😭😭😭
When will be the next episode or Season?
i know they keep using the word sister but there were absolutely romantic/“yuri” elements to mariko and ochiba’s relationship. hints in this scene but more visible in their full episode with the flashbacks
Great to see well written characters played by amazing actors and ZERO wokeness.
Her last words to were used by Ochiba to finish the poem. Friendship matters.
Is hulu has arabic sub??
I’m stack and scared to watch the remaining episodes bcz I don’t want it to end why did they have to give us a few amazing episodes ☺️🙁😂😂💜
I recommend reading the novel SHOGUN, and imagine it like the TV Show. I am sure it will be a wonderful experience.
@@cuauhtemoc8350 thank you
Where’s the extended version ???
I just watched Anna bag the best actress, but it seems Fui deserves it more....
Clickbait. This scene was included
how is this extended? exactly how it was in the episode
The fact that Mariko dies is absolute b.s.
(the way I wanted Anjin and Mariko to have little o' babies running around neh😢)
waiting season 2
Any japanese here, i noticed most of the sentences end with gozarimasirisu, gozarimasruka...gozara looks like meaning permission, so is it a politeness suffix , like with your permission plz etc...
~ de gozarimasuru= it is~. ~ de gozarimasuruka= Is it ~? Gozaru= is.
thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is hulu has arabic sub??
MARIKO-SAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
All these struggles just for that old turtle of Tokugawa. What a shame.
Both are gorgeous women and awesome actors.
Well balance. I thought she will commit senpoku just like the previous series did. Too bad that she died at the end during the explosion.
Will there be a 2nd season?!?!?!?!