Kinesthetic Thinking
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2017
- An insight into my processing style.
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Yes. My therapist actually taught me to move to think better. She said it also helps with processing sensory input. So helpful! Also works on the propriocepsis, makes you feel more stable, and improves balance.
Btw, when nobody can notice, you can under the table cross your legs, then turn your foot (if you know what I mean).
Im so glad i now have a name for my pacing, thank you
I'm a bit different! I can barely keep my train of thought looking in people's eyes, or a camera for that matter. Seeing their reaction interrupts me, So after I'm done then I do my best to observe to understand their reaction. As for listening and keeping up with what someone else is saying, I can't understand unless I'm looking at them, it's like I look away suddenly they're speaking nonsense. So what communication looks like for me is looking all over the room while I'm talking and then making intense eye contact as I listen to someone speak. Also reading lips to help my understanding of the words they're speaking.
Riah G. Reading your words here is very helpful for me, thank you. All the best to you :)
Riah G. I guess focus comes and goes depending on your sensory state at the time.. This probably affects us all on the spectrum and is less "cut & paste/ one size fits all" as we might think it is.
For example I just can't talk to someone when the tv is on or there are ppl next to me talking.. yet listening to a podcast etc it's much easier for me to stay engaged if I'm doing something & something that doesn't require complex thought.
On other hand studying and doing tasks I need music to help me think straight & keep on track or motivate me but the music can't have lyrics.. or at least needs a beat.. If I'm in a cardio workout class.. the music being too loud.. and especially any messy kind of music I get anxiety.
I do the exact same think. I also do it in meetings. A whiteboard in the room is great because it gives me a great excuse to walk around.
This is what I do EVERYDAY after work...just bounce around the house and think and talk to myself....I used to think I was the one going insane, then I realized that I was just DECOMPRESSING this insane world. 😇 Been so blessed to have the space and area to be able to do this and get as loud, sad, crying, screaming, and passionate as possible, with minimal intervention.
Hi Paul - I always gain valuable insights from your videos
I find that as you explain your experience - it helps me be aware of my experience In ways I was not previously able to
At the very least -
I find I can verbally describe my inner experience / etc . from watching & learning from your descriptions
In short - I am learning about the experiences of my mind - body - connections
Please continue to make these videos -
They’re so helpful to me 🍏
Man i can relate to your thoughts on so many levels man. Thank you for taking time to communicate your efforts towards understanding aspergers. It‘s helpful yes
I resonated with this a lot. I started most recent job right at the start of the pandemic, so I've bee able to work remotely the whole time. Being able to walk around, talk to myself, stretch and do quick calisthenics exercises are things that help me maintain focus really well. When I worked at other places, it was in an office so I often felt it would be too awkward to do these things. Thanks for sharing your experiences, it helps me feel a lot better about it
I think the information that you're sharing is so helpful that people would not really care once they get to know you how you share the information just that they get it thanks for what you're doing keep up the great work
THANK YOU! You perfectly described my experience having the most lucid thoughts while doing random stuff that's considered unproductive. Almost like using background movement instead of background noise to concentrate. Giving the senses enough stimuli to entertain them but not as much as to overload them, and customizing that according to triggers and sensibilities. I can recall and analyze and review what I learnt while playing smite and that way stick it to my brain using analogies but I can't do that on a blank sheet of paper sitting at a desk. When I can't move, all I think about is that I can't move. It becomes a problem that needs fixing. But if I multitask (mind-body division, not like when neurotypicals multitask-coordinate-chain stuff, but when the task is non critical and you can go autopilot) it's easier for me to focus, think, operate. I thought I was coming back to my kitchen just to get my weed and that helped me think while studying, but no, it's because I do a lot of other stuff there and it's like a thinkin den because there's movement and stuff that feels nice for me there. I love to think about stuff while I organize that space, even when the drugs are not there jajajaja Thank you thank you!!!!!
I'm in my sixties... you just made me remember that the thing I hated worst about school was sitting still in those miserable desks...
And I understand. Of course.
my fabulous young person Liam moved throughout, walking up and down, as his verbal fluency thrived... this Year 10 person was placed in 'low ability' foundation English groups and was diagnosed as disengaged/truculent/not trying, dyslexic and dyspraxic... I always found him witty, wise and with it
In a way, I do this too. You made me realize it. When I'm having a conversation with someone, my first intent is to pay attention to them, but, I'm still doing things. I may be double checking e-mails for new ones coming in. I might be writing up a job ticket and keep on going. It's not that I'm dismissing them. I have full on conversations this way. but to stop, sit, and stare is frustrating. It's worse when they've demanded I lock eyes and focus on what they've said. Well, which is it? You want me to blankly stare into your eyes or do you want me to process the verbal information coming out of your mouth? My boss is notorious for this. He gets infuriated when I'm turned away doing my work and yet processing very clearly every nuance of his words and responding back clearly and thoughtfully, all while being productive. It's in those moments, I really do pity the single-mindeds.
Yes! This is why i prefer face to face interaction as opposed to over the phone or texting. This makes so much sense!
Thank you, Paul. Ramble away... it helps to feel less alone 🤟
Ball throwing is a good source of fun a d release
Good work Paul!
Realmente aprecio mucho que te hayas decidido a grabar tus experiencias y tus conocimientos sobre este Sindrome de Asperger; tus videos me han sido de gran ayuda y me gusta mucho tu manera de expresarte: honesta, clara e interesante. Realmente logras expresar con palabras lo que vivimos por dentro las personas con Asperger. Gracias.
de nada :)
This is SO the same as me all my life too. I used to rock all the time if I had to sit still. Yeah, you nailed it: it takes an enormous amount of energy to sit still! It can be exhausting. I now have a profession in which I use pretty much my whole body & I'm in constant motion of my choosing :) (massage therapist)
Iahel Cathartes Aura nice :)
Thank you for this video. I walk too. A lot. It's weird. It seems my life is deeply influenced by distractions, but sometimes, I need distractions to get things done. Like walking helps me thinking, singing help me changing the bulb light (Too high).
Ciao from Italy! :)
you're welcome :)
You have clarified something for me that I didn't even know I needed to clarify about myself.
I wonder if my foot tapping and hand tapping is like a repressed version as opposed to when I am able to be pacing around the house.
I've realized I rock when extremely repressed for long periods or repressing triggers from trauma.
My art may just stem from coping & processing by doodling all the time.
I'm noticing the more accepted I am by others, the more the mask falls & I am connecting with myself who I am because I am witnessing & feeling what it's like to just be me.
Thank you.
Just so great to see you do what I felt intuitively. Thank you for helping me
I hAVE to move to learn, to think, to create.
Back in the late 50's/ early 60's, my father was working in a large room of engineers, desks set up in a grid pattern. One of the engineers used to get up and walk figure 8s around the desk, until the others threw him out of the room. Then he'd go down to the parking lot and walk figure 8s around the cars. When I'm writing, I frequently go for walks to get the next bit straight in my head before committing it to paper. So yeah, lots of people use that style of thinking, and have for quite a while. Walking writers is actually something of a trope.
00:45 moving around for the purposes of helping me to think .. this is kinaesthetic thinking 👍 no rambling, Paul, never
👏 👏 👏
Roller skates on my feet. Even when just standing, it engages the part of the brain that is for survival/safety, taking up the fidgety anxious energy, leaving more room for thoughts to come out. When you have essential basic skating skills that survival/safety thing your brain is doing knows you’re not in danger so there’s no stress from fear. It’s a trick you can play on your own brain by working with it’s physiology. Also, when sitting, the skates are fidget toys on your feet. The end of a day on skates means left over energy for me time 😁
Oh my gosh! I've never really thought about "appropriate feedback"! The feedback I receive while actively coaching clients is EXACTLY what leads me through the pathway each client needs to follow! And often when I'm not with a client or a person I have trouble writing up workshops and videos and all the other things I want to do with my business! My mind is blown! Do you have more videos about this idea of feedback and how to cope with creating content when that feedback is not there? ❤️
when i draw, i think through the drawing and the action of drawing. I don't plan my drawings, but i sorta "tinker" with the image
I do the same brother thanks for pointing this out to me.
Yeah, I switch to ASL often when thinking or trying to parse out a thought. Have you looked into learning Auslan? Sign languages are really useful, I find, in autistic communities/amongst kinesthetic thinkers. ASL has definitely greatly positively added to the quality of my life
I don't know if this will help anyone but I got multiple screens, and when in meetings I'll have notes on one screen and a relevant diagram (I'm into electronics and networks and processes, lucky enough to work on this) in the other, with the meeting in center stage (below the camera) to focus on my colleagues faces if needed, the time delay sucks thou.
Your videos are so helpful, in understanding myself and others as well, thanks.
yes . i really relate to this. big difference for me to work in this way. wish I had figured it out long ago but pleased to use it and also to see your presentation - thx !
you're welcome :)
super interesting all your videos! ...this video reminds me of the school and its methodology. Fixed tables, children cannot move, they need to look at front (at the teacher) always....like designed to not think, that is I believe from my neurotypical point of view. I feel that your videos talk more about society than autism.
Great insight on how everybody has there own movement and energy in which they feel comforatable to communicate. I will be more aware of that in the future. Thank you so much for all your videos. I have seen so many videos over the years on aspergers, I feel yours hit the core and give great examples, by showing on camera how things work inside of you.
I 'm very interested on how you feel in romantic relationships. Especially on how it works when the person with aspergers can want to be with their girlfriend but cannot come to making an appointment, the planning of it. And then being out of touch for some time While the other person is wondering if he still cares or not etc. Looking for balance between contacting him to let him know you think of him during that period but not put too much pressure because he might feel bad about that. Thank you so much for alll your efforts to help us understand and to help us be more loving people. Marjolein
Being out of touch (for a while) is definitely something I experience. I'll have a think about how I might talk about that in a video.
Thank you, that would be great, I realize I don't know your name, so I just thank you without your name. What would be great to see in that video, if you decide to make it, is how love feels for you and how people with aspergers love someone and then still cannot come to physically meeting that person. Mostly preferring sharing their life through pictures on watsapp. Take no initiative in meeting but also feel pressured when the other then tries to come to an appointment. Can be very confusing, my wish is to understand how that works. And what is the best way of cooping with that for a NT. Thanks for taking my question into consideration for a video.
Nice. Really nice to have made this video. Thank you!
to help people understand.
Im an infj in mbti, and suspect I'm on the spectrum. I was a drummer for 30 years, and this reminded me of multitasking I would do on stage to make people laugh(and entertain myself.)
I'd play the song correctly on drums, while also singing and eating pizza,(with the other hand) and fidgeting with a light controller, or pretending I was engrossed in a book, or fighting with somebody, using body language : )
I'd put food on my cymbals while I ate, (still drumming) then get somebody's attention and send it flying right on the beat!
These antics felt "right" and very essentially "me" and not outrageous at all.
But try to get me to sit still, look you in the eye, to make small talk . . . uhhhhhhhhhh no.
Muscle memory- kinesthetic learning
I am a kinesthetic thinker as well. I actually pace everyday. Sort of apart of my routine. It helps me process and synthesize my thoughts. When I'm not bogged down to having to stare someone in the eyes it helps me keep my train of thought, which is very easy for me to lose. Anything can make me forget
Thanks. Good to know I'm not the only one! :)
My son paces when he thinks. He has done for as long as I can remember.
It does make sense. My sons pace while talking and I pace while talking on the phone.
This might sound crazy, but I wonder if using a Go Pro camera would help.That way you would be free to walk and do whatever else that would help make things easier.
Yes , 4 males in my family are in constant motion in most situations.....etc.
I’ve always done the same thing!
I have to walk around the room when having important phone conversations. I deliberately - as the only one - choose to stand, and never sit down, at my work.
It's easier for me to gesture while I'm speaking so I can look at my hands instead of the other
Waking and talking alone in the house is what I do when I want to understand my thought. Talking slow my thought and its more manageable.
I do tend to pace a lot when I’m thinking about something, not sure if they’re related
This has been helpful
Than you for the insight. It will be helpful for me.
you're welcome :)
I would focus a lot better if I was drawing in my notebook while listening to teachers, they'd force me not to do it, I'd explain to them I focused better by doing that, they never believed me and when I actually stopped drawing, I couldn't listen to anything they were saying, as in I could not process a single word.
I function in the same way. But I'm wondering if it's that uncommon to "freeze in your thinking" when you sit in front of a camera lense? Would you operate the same way in a zoom call for instance when you see the faces of other people? I know I prefer to like change positions and sometimes bounce on a yoga ball during zoom calls. maybe you'd like that
Do you pace up and down while your on the phone?
I seem to do it when I'm deep in conversation, I suppose it helps me think?
Whats your opinion on this ?
Much love
Yeah, I often pace whilst thinking (e.g. talking on the phone - or even in person). I'm not sure what it does exactly, but something makes me want to do it.
Aspergers from the Inside same
I pace when I'm on the phone, otherwise I can't think of what I want to say.
Yes. My therapist actually taught me to move to think better. She said it also helps with processing sensory input. So helpful! Also works on the propriocepsis, makes you feel more stable, and improves balance.
Relatable.
Spot on. I have tried multiple office-type jobs, and it just doesn't work for me. Being a wind turbine tech was fantastic, except ... how did you put it in one video... I don't show deference to CEO's or respect people when they've shown they're not worthy of it. Have tried 20+ jobs in my life, found I much prefer working for myself.
I’m an aspie an I’ve to walk for an hour at least every day to keep my thinking together. The room doesn’t do it for me anymore.
I do this alot, more specifically for me I walk in circles.
Is this connected to the common issue people with Asperger's tend to have with phone calls? Like if you are to walk around while talking if that has a positive benefit?
I used to take of the screen when recording videos a few years back because I found it distracting knowing that I had to keep looking at thd camera and talked more or less to myself during the recording and that turned out well for me.
Walking definitely helps me think (and listen).
I don't know that it has anything to do with people who don't like phone calls.
Aspergers from the Inside I see. I heard it is a tendency for people with Asperger's to find phone calls to be exhausting, more so than for neurotypicals, and was wondering if it was because of the lack of the appropriate feedback needed to make it easier to converse.
nirthpanter It is because it is easier to stutter and to ask people on face to face contact than to do in phone, for in a phone one may be more insecure and do long hiatuses of speech, which will ruin the experience and it is likely a meltdown will ensue.
I had been using fidget spinners heaps for that type of thinking.
This must be why I don't like talking on the phone. It is much easier in person (we'll, depending on the person . . .😕).
At one time i played the violin. To the astonishment of my teacher I played better when i was moving
playing solo basketball also? solo soccer ball alone it's almost meditative
If you had a microphone on your Shirt you could do that ... no problem for me ;)
How old are you?
I do this. I walk around and think. Sometimes I use a Yoyo.
I want to be on a live stream anyone know if it Patrion’ I’ll pay for it blue 💙 I’m very kind person
GOOD CATCH MATE!!! :-D...SUBSCRIBE! HA! I'm already subscribed, but DUDE! GOOD CATCH! That looked fun!!! ;-D
P.S...We all want you to sit & stare at the camera...cause you're cute! HeHe! ;-p
haha. thanks.
You look like normal person, everything is ok about you. Just change your haircut and shave yourself
what a backhanded compliment.
It's all personal preference
It makes sense, coming from righteous.
yikes
Get a haircut, shave, and then what? Process and interact with the world around him in a totally different way? What a ridiculous comment. This shows an absolute lack of understanding of the issues of having this condition.