Wake Forest built those skyboxes in 2008 and bricked in the stadium the same year to match the campus. Further renovations to the facility were made in 2011. Only 5,400 undergrads are enrolled at Wake, and the alumni base is smaller than average and spread across the country. A bigger stadium would serve no purpose. The current one is very comfortable and a very fun venue.
Notre Dame is only 8,000 undergrad and fan base across the country as well. It's also about the interest of the alumni and desire to come back and support the school. ACC Schools on average do not really support their football programs.
@@jennlalli5481well I think I has to do with the affiliation with the Catholic Church along with the football program still independent and the older wealthy alumni still like it that way and still donate a ton of money to Norte Dame football.
@@jennlalli5481the difference with Notre Dame is they have a fan base of nearly every practicing Catholic in the country , it’s an apples to oranges comparison
Never been there but looks great with the grass hill. The thing about “rating” stadiums, most of these lists are very deceiving. These pundits are NOT rating the physical structure or amenities. Their ratings are solely based on the history and crowd. I’ve been to several “big time” stadiums and, yes, the atmosphere is amazing. But it is disingenuous to rate a stadium based on the crowd size. Some of these iconic, top-10 stadiums are dumps. Glorified erector sets. Many pre-date WW II.
90% of teams are irrelevant. About twenty years ago schools decided they were either going to go all in on football or not. Now you have 5ish teams that have a shot to win the whole thing. Zero parity and zero control over paying players and academic standards. Some schools don’t want to deal with that mess
But the bottom 90% still expect a free check from the playoff revenue for sacrificing their players. That's about to end very soon because the B1G and SEC are about to cut out all the dead weight from outside of their conferences.
Not to mention the college realignment mess. Pretty sonn we'll have a massive elite conference with Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, abd all the other top teams.
@@rockoorbe2002and Notre dame will never join a football conference… they make way too much money as an independent and they can decide who they play every single season instead of a conference telling them who a majority of their games are each season. You seem uneducated on this
@@brettrobinson2901SEC has several strong academic schools in addition to Vandy - Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc. Every conference has at least some bottom tier academic institutions.
Indiana might have some success now that they hired Cignetti. I think he'll do a great job turning them around - but in the Big 10, they'll just be a mid-tier program. But at least they're not bottom dwellers lol
To be fair, a significant percentage of P5 teams have already won a national championship at some point, and ALOT of teams claim national championships, even if they are bullshit.
They’ll improve heavily this season, and Im a Michigan fan lol. New HC has proven he can do a lot with 3 star talent, and thats what they recruit right now
Haha. I heard it too as it's a new thing DG added. It adds drama to what would otherwise be quiet talking over pictures. ESPN pioneered this concept as you'll never see a replay on ESPN without background music.
I know this was only about schools in P5 (or whatever it is now) but University of Hawaii should be on the next list: no stadium, worst mountain west contract (see travel expenses for visiting team and media rights), horrible record
Indiana: Basketball school BC: Hockey school Vandy: Baseball school Wake Forest: Basketball school Virginia: Lacrosse school Illinois: Used to be a football school now a basketball school
And they all should drop football and just focus on the other sports, especially if football is brining in less money then it is making them. Would love to really see what a football program at say Indiana costs v what it brings in. My guess is it either breaks even or runs a deficit.
@scotttild I'm a diehard IU fan. The team actually brings in about 10 mil profit a year. Not even close to the good teams. But it does make a profit. Also with the new coach season tickets are up, the portal did the team well. And this is the easiest schedule IUFB has had in decades. I expect a 7 or 8 win season this year.
@@scotttild No team is going to drop football because most former P-5 (since it doesn't exist anymore) schools fund their entire athletic departments from the revenue their football programs generate. Basketball only generates about 10% of what football does.
IU football brings in 2x the revenue than does its basketball. It’s simple economics folks. The number of fans at a football game, parking, concessions is more than even a packed basketball game can generate. Exponentially more. Does anybody want to take a guess how much revenue IU brings in annually to its entire athletic department? $167 million. That’s 13th in the nation. It’s also why it could pay Tom Allen $15 million to accept his pink slip. The school isn’t poor.
SAD TRUTH IS … outside of about 15 teams. Everyone else is irrelevant Even Mississippi St, Baylor Texas Tech ,South Carolina , Purdue type schools etc etc are irrelevant, in todays college game WHICH SUCKS
Anyone think that at some point with more expansion the Big 10 and SEC might drop the bad programs and replace with better ones? though in the end someone has to lose to have good teams. I have seen some videos where they propose a share system for payout. Do well for a few years your a bigger share and bad drops your share. Talking percentage of full shares.
The middle of the pack programs won't go for it. There's no way that an Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, get rid of Vandy, Arkansas, Miss State. With the addition of Clemson and Florida State, who becomes the bottom-feeders if those programs are kicked out? Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, Missouri
I don't see anyone getting kick out of their conferences, but I can see the valuable football programs pulling out of their conferences to create a College Football Super League so they can maximize their value. The universities can fund all their non-revenue generating sports because it's not the football player's obligation to do it.
The next thing to hit the 2 superconferences (Big and SEC) will be disproportionate revenue sharing. Bank on it. The big programs will want a bigger piece of the pie and the other programs will take a lesser share and still stay because….well, it will be more than they can get anywhere else. That will be the next phase long before anybody gets kicked out. Face it: college football with the huge NIL deals and unlimited transfer rules (aka free agency) is NOT college football anymore. It’s semi-pro ball. A developmental league. Anybody that says differently isn’t paying attention.
They have football bottom feeders, like every conference does, but most of them are large state schools with large alumni and large loyal fan bases. Plus all of them have good academics and large research programs, which is way more profitable then sports. So they are still somewhat valuable for the conference.
If anyone uses this thing called Google, you can look up the top 25 revenue earning athletics departments in the country. 10 schools from the Big 10 and 15 from the SEC make up that list. Two are on the irrelevant list. Neither is dropping football with that much cash that they bring in.
Vanderbilt is an easy target - Indiana also makes sense, but the others? (In the last 5 years) Wake Forest - Division Champs 2021, highest rank 9th in CFP, 2 Top 100 NFL Draft picks Boston College - Bowl Eligible 4 of the last 5 seasons, 8 Top 100 NFL Draft Picks (3 First Rounders) Virginia - Division Champs 2019, highest rank 18th in CFP, 2 Top 100 NFL Draft picks Illinois - 2 Bowl Games, Built 22nd best facility (per 247), highest rank 16th in CFP, 8 Top 100 NFL Draft picks (1 First Round) I would replace them with: Duke - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 16th in CFP, 3 Top 100 NFL Draft picks Kansas - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 16th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick Stanford - No Bowl Games, highest rank 23rd in CFP, 6 Top 100 NFL Draft picks Cal - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 15th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick Rutgers - 2 Bowl Games, unranked, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick Arizona - 1 Bowl Game, highest rank 14th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick (1 First Round)
So, I think UMASS (Independent) should be added bc they pretend to be an FBS team. How was UMASS allowed to play Auburn last year & GA this year? UMASS would get destroyed by teams like Western KY.
Auburn, Georgia and the rest of the SEC thrive on cream-puff teams like UMass. Cream-puff games like these to me have turned college football into a joke when Power 5 teams play against schools such as the East Dakota School of Belly-Button Lint Removal.
Re: Indiana, I can remember when Northwestern was a perennial basement dweller in both football and basketball but have had very successful years lately.
There are so many programs that would be better off just folding football. I know they never will but some of these schools that are not very good would be interesting to really see their budget. Cal is a great example of a do nothing program. Have not been even slightly relevant in football for 20+ years.
Don’t forget Arizona State ! They reduced sun devil stadium from 71,000 to 55,000 and still can’t sell it out . Ppl don t care about football in Arizona !
We've had some legendary bad leadership. I don't disagree, we are lucky to not be on this list and it's due to our previous AD being an absolute moron with Herm Edwards. Hopefully the Big-12 jump is good with Dillingham at the helm.
Eh depends. NW has a good year everyone once in a while, but they *played* in the worst division in all of college football. With the big10 going divisionless now, it will hurt them and Iowa tremendously
Compared to the teams in the video, Northwestern is a powerhouse! They are not in the same category of an Ohio State or Michigan, for sure. But in the last 10 years they have won the Big Ten West two times and have been in six bowl games (going 5-1). And finished the season ranked in the AP and Coaches poll four times. Not as bad as one would think. And with a new stadium and facilities on the way, it could get better.
Maybe I should have said it as follows: A college is an institution of higher learning by definition. It’s not fair to call many schools who really only care about FB to be called a “college” any longer. They are simply semi-pro FB teams that are housed on a college campus. We need to start calling a spade a spade. Those 6 schools you mentioned are irrelevant with respect to semi-pro FB being played on college campuses. Huge difference. 99% of the young men who play FB for semi-pro teams would welcome a degree from a UVA. And they would live a better life.
As a Hoosiers fan, I personally feel like we are on the up, we have a new head coach, and yes we should have made the Big Ten championship over Ohio State.
I too am an IU alum and fan. However, we lost the head to head game against OSU by a touchdown that year and don’t think we should have been in the championship game. It was a COVID year. It was just a weird season. Allen turned out to be a dud. He stunk the next three years. His defense, supposedly his hallmark, got worse. I do have more confidence in Cignetti. IU is 13th in the nation in athletic revenue. No reason for it to be so bad if it just took the sport of football seriously. Think about how Allen got the job. They did no national search. Fred Glass walked down the hall after he fired Kevin Wilson and offered the job on the spot to Allen. What functioning athletic department does that? IU has had a revolving door of poor administration. It’s time we pony up to stay in the big boy sandbox. The Cignetti hire does seem like a positive step IU never did in the past.
Unfortunately I was looking for my team the Arkansas Razorbacks. Kinda glad it wasn't there. When I was growing up we were good (1964-89). Enjoyed the video though. Next time try 20 teams since there are plenty who can't really even win our conference much less a Natty.
As George O’Leary said , a majority of teams are just collecting checks. When a program becomes complacent or apathetic how do you turn that around. How do you get boosters to put out more money. How do you get alumni and others to buy in.
Maybe these schools (they are schools, not teams) expect to recruit student athletes rather than professional college athletes. How many of the people playing for the big programs graduate?
Indiana has been irrelevant since Henry Gonso and John Isenberger played, with "sort of" exceptions for a couple of Lee Corso's teams. Maybe the one with Penix but that was Covid year too.
Speaking of irrelevance….IU has been irrelevant in basketball for 25 years. It’s terrible and running on fumes from the past. The future of college sports is football. That’s the entire driver for media deals and realignments. IU went out and got Curt Cignetti and is upping its NIL game. Dump the money in football to try and improve the future. All schools in the Power2 (Big and SEC) need to invest in football or be on the outside looking in. Basketball is a lost cause now. Terrible coaching and the program is inept. Face it: if you invest in football and are serious, you can get an ROI. UK did it and they are in the SEC. They now have 8-10 win seasons. Woody and his circus is a lost cause.
@sullivan-pughvideoproducti5531 Really an interesting post. Hadn't thought of current issues in that way. I have to admit one of my favorite things to read is Dakich posts, especially on IU hoops (have to admit am Buckeye fan). He kind of speaks his mind on that....and everything else too. Super interesting post.
@@jeffmerklin2022 I’m born and raised in Indiana. IU basically did nothing for its football program. Everything was overshadowed by Knight. They barely gave any support to Mallory in the way of investment. The administration couldn’t envision a future where football is driving the boat. Now we are here and those schools that took football seriously are the big players in college athletics. It’s what drives everything now. Basketball is merely riding shotgun. When it comes to media deals, conference affiliations and realignments, nobody (NOBODY) is adding schools for their basketball programs. It’s why the Big Ten added schools like Washington, Oregon and USC. Millions of eyeballs in those markets watching football on Saturdays. I’ve always said that dumping all your efforts into basketball is not the right investment.
I would add Rutgers to any such list, especially considering that even if they were truly competitive, it wouldn't really matter much to most people in NJ itself.
The state of Illinois produces plenty of talent, but most of the top recruits usually go to other Big Ten schools or Notre Dame - such as JJ McCarthy, for example.
I think Northwestern is more irrelevant than Illinois in the new Big 10. Indiana might be safe because of their basketball program. It's just a matter of time before Vanderbilt gets the pink slip from the SEC. Your other three irrelevant teams are in what could soon be an irrelevant league.
They better start taking football seriously or they may find themselves on the outside of the Super League looking in, when the valuable football programs leave their conferences to maximize their value.
Damn, it makes me sad that Illinois is on this list. Illinois use to be good before the turn of the millennium. On the flip side, I liked how you included the bubble in Memorial Stadium. That’s how Illinois used to practice in the winter before they got their training facility.
We’ll all be wishing upon a star that the decrepit old cigar smoker, Woody, will get them to a sweet 16. I’d try to improve football to decency before spending one dime on that trainwreck basketball program. Terrible coaching hires have doomed that mess.
NO BIG XII teams??? You mention recruiting as a prime category have you looked at that conference recruiting wise??? Only about 5 recruit top 50. There is a reason they were left behind... Seems you have a bias against ACC even with your own metrics. Beating other Big XII teams is akin to beating other teams that should be on your list. You Yormark's son or something? LOL Why no Colorado??? What have they done the past 30 years versus those on your list? Even with Deon. You definitely were very selective in your choices to have 0 from the weakest conference that nobody wanted to raid even when the opportunity was there after OU and UT bailed.
@@samcoppock3370 I can only see one that is...how is that for you? Utah, with a possible asterisk to Ariz if they can ever get consistent like years ago. Take out OU and Tex games and even Duke gets the same or better ratings and that's for football. There is a reason nobody wanted the Big XII leftovers and there is a reason that nobody truly knows just whom the Big I / SEC will take. The only no brainers are likely UVA and UNC. UVA ratings flat out suck but everyone wants to have a team there so that they will own that state and get the premium dollars for their network. TV networks get a premium (around .40 cents more per month) if a team is in that state. That is why UNC is likewise so valuable. FSU is pushing the threshold so that they can hopefully land one of the spots left. First out hopefully beats others to the punch line and hopefully takes some control out of the Big two hands..."hey we are here and available type of mindset". UNC is the prize. UM, Louisville, NC State, GT, VPI, Clempsum, are all at the top of the Big XII with viewership and Cal and Stanford not far behind and there is a reason they stuck their noses up at the Big XII. Leave your bias out and just think logically. Why would they turn down Big XII even when it is imploding? Why be in limbo while praying for a life line when the Big XII came calling??? Colorado was an exception in year one of Deon...but what about without him? Would they drop below Houston? LOL That is the Big XII's problem. And it is why you should not be surprised if the remaining ACC teams just reform with additions rather than joining the Big XII. Just a heads up for you.
The only big 12 team I would give you is maybe Kansas and they are lightyears ahead of most of these schools at this moment in time… also the big 12 actually fills their stadiums with actual fans
@@gagebyers1057 exactly! and KU is far from irrelevant. They’ve been relevant for the wrong reasons for 13 years and now they’re relevant for such a great turnaround!
The thumbnail is misleading. That was not a Vanderbilt game. That was a game against UVA and Ohio. It was moved to a neutral site due to a hurricane (I think) that was occurring in Virginia. That’s why there were so few people there. I get your point about Vandy but that is not a vandy crowd. Stop being misleading.
Just me or a lot of content floating around picking on the ACC recently. Not really sure why Wake landed on this list? A small school that punches above there weight. 10+ bowls games in the past 20 years and not to mention 15 or so current NFL players. NIL really hurts Wake at the end of the day.
Unfortunately, this is a poor video filled with misinformation and extreme bias against the ACC, I would take the 3 ACC teams you mentioned in a heartbeat over half of the teams in the Big 12 (were there any Big12 teams in this video). I don't know what your criteria for bowl games is but you mentioned that BC hadn't been in a bowl game since the days of the Big East. ??????????? They beat a ranked team in a bowl last year. won the Atlantic Division in the ACC twice, and were ranked as high as number 2 in the country and just missed playing for the national championship - all after the days of the Big East. So please get your facts straight before speaking falsehoods.
I like Boston College too. I go to a Jesuit university (Georgetown) so I root for Georgetown basketball and Boston College football. I dig Georgetown football too but we are FCS ass right now
Illinois has been a sad train wreck of a football program for almost 50 years, they have never been able to recapture those golden years if the early 1980s when they finally went to the Rose Bowl (which they lost haha). Now they have a coach that is so fat that if he puts on any more weight you are going to see him going up and down the sidelines in a mobility scooter during games.
So interesting that the 6 teams you mention are 6 of the finest academic schools in the Country. The most relevant schools are frankly not colleges with any academic value. The 6 you mention are colleges. Most of the very relevant FB programs are semi-pro teams not colleges which is a place where student/athletes are located. You might not see that clearly right now but you will in the near future.
First of all, not a Wake alum, but, it is obvious Depressed Ginger has never attended a game at Wake Forest. I have attended many games there over the years and it is a great stadium to see a game. Parking is easy in and out, easy in and out of the stadium and there is not a bad seat in the house. He is right on UVa...they are perennial losers. Scott Stadium is known as Lane Stadium East when the Virginia Tech/UVa game is in Charlottesville.
Wake Forest built those skyboxes in 2008 and bricked in the stadium the same year to match the campus. Further renovations to the facility were made in 2011. Only 5,400 undergrads are enrolled at Wake, and the alumni base is smaller than average and spread across the country. A bigger stadium would serve no purpose. The current one is very comfortable and a very fun venue.
Notre Dame is only 8,000 undergrad and fan base across the country as well. It's also about the interest of the alumni and desire to come back and support the school. ACC Schools on average do not really support their football programs.
Going there in September for the Ole Miss game.
@@jennlalli5481well I think I has to do with the affiliation with the Catholic Church along with the football program still independent and the older wealthy alumni still like it that way and still donate a ton of money to Norte Dame football.
@@jennlalli5481the difference with Notre Dame is they have a fan base of nearly every practicing Catholic in the country , it’s an apples to oranges comparison
I think Purdue faces the same problem. Their stadium is really small and looks like it needs an expansion, but they can't even fill it up right now!
Scott Stadium is one of the most beautiful venues in the Fall. (UVA)
Never been there but looks great with the grass hill.
The thing about “rating” stadiums, most of these lists are very deceiving. These pundits are NOT rating the physical structure or amenities. Their ratings are solely based on the history and crowd. I’ve been to several “big time” stadiums and, yes, the atmosphere is amazing.
But it is disingenuous to rate a stadium based on the crowd size.
Some of these iconic, top-10 stadiums are dumps. Glorified erector sets. Many pre-date WW II.
90% of teams are irrelevant. About twenty years ago schools decided they were either going to go all in on football or not. Now you have 5ish teams that have a shot to win the whole thing. Zero parity and zero control over paying players and academic standards. Some schools don’t want to deal with that mess
But the bottom 90% still expect a free check from the playoff revenue for sacrificing their players. That's about to end very soon because the B1G and SEC are about to cut out all the dead weight from outside of their conferences.
Don't forget, bowl games used to matter. Now not even the good players care.
Not to mention the college realignment mess. Pretty sonn we'll have a massive elite conference with Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, abd all the other top teams.
@@rockoorbe2002Alabama won’t ever leave the SEC 😂
@@rockoorbe2002and Notre dame will never join a football conference… they make way too much money as an independent and they can decide who they play every single season instead of a conference telling them who a majority of their games are each season. You seem uneducated on this
Wake Forest has a good coach, Dave Clawson
True, NIL is killing Wake Forest.
And 80 plus other schools. NIL ruined NCAA football.
Agreed. He has done an amazing job! I could have thought of some other schools with only 8 to choose from than Wake.
The only reason why the SEC keeps Vanderbilt in conference is because someone has to be Georgia’s and Alabama’s homecoming opponent. 😂
Also helps with the SEC Academic look...
@@brettrobinson2901I mean Georgia and Florida are good schools. But yeah the rest of the SEC are dumb as rocks.
@@brettrobinson2901SEC has several strong academic schools in addition to Vandy - Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc.
Every conference has at least some bottom tier academic institutions.
@@fitzwilliamdarcy5263 Georgia? 😂😂
@@Beachgirl1🤣🤣let em have his fun
As a UConn fan, I’ll say that the football Huskies are totally irrelevant
But men’s basketball is like the Bama of that sport.
@@FrenchUncleLou Izz snot!.....😷
Support them 😁 Those kids work hard and deserve it!!
Indiana might have some success now that they hired Cignetti. I think he'll do a great job turning them around - but in the Big 10, they'll just be a mid-tier program. But at least they're not bottom dwellers lol
In 1995 Florida won their first National Championship. We haven't had another first time winner in 29 years.
To be fair, a significant percentage of P5 teams have already won a national championship at some point, and ALOT of teams claim national championships, even if they are bullshit.
Indiana's football stadium is kinda dope though
I was surprised that Cal missed the list and Colorado would’ve been there if not for Deion
Wake Forest is my favorite underdog. Many times they prove to be a tough out. They are always outmanned but manage to put up a good fight.
If Michigan State isnt careful, they could end up on this list next. Real soon
They’ll improve heavily this season, and Im a Michigan fan lol. New HC has proven he can do a lot with 3 star talent, and thats what they recruit right now
Go blue
Nooo, they just got a good coach and QB. They won't be elite but thelyh be alright.
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WTF is up with the music
Haha. I heard it too as it's a new thing DG added. It adds drama to what would otherwise be quiet talking over pictures. ESPN pioneered this concept as you'll never see a replay on ESPN without background music.
Great music 🎶😁
I love it
I know this was only about schools in P5 (or whatever it is now) but University of Hawaii should be on the next list: no stadium, worst mountain west contract (see travel expenses for visiting team and media rights), horrible record
Stranger Things ahh music
From like 2009-2021, Kansas would easily be at the top of this list
And yet this list is for 2024, Rock MF Chalk
@@chasefrench1864 The middle name of the basketball coach at Kansas is Feels-him.
@@chasefrench1864 I say that as a KU fan glad to be past those miserable Weis, Beaty, & Les Miles teams
@@roris5882 yikes, comedy is hard
Before i start I'm saying the New Mexico teams, ULM, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Boston College
You got 3 right.
dude watched the first three teams and then put this comment you're a bum💀
Indiana: Basketball school
BC: Hockey school
Vandy: Baseball school
Wake Forest: Basketball school
Virginia: Lacrosse school
Illinois: Used to be a football school now a basketball school
And they all should drop football and just focus on the other sports, especially if football is brining in less money then it is making them. Would love to really see what a football program at say Indiana costs v what it brings in. My guess is it either breaks even or runs a deficit.
@scotttild I'm a diehard IU fan. The team actually brings in about 10 mil profit a year. Not even close to the good teams. But it does make a profit.
Also with the new coach season tickets are up, the portal did the team well. And this is the easiest schedule IUFB has had in decades. I expect a 7 or 8 win season this year.
@@scotttild No team is going to drop football because most former P-5 (since it doesn't exist anymore) schools fund their entire athletic departments from the revenue their football programs generate. Basketball only generates about 10% of what football does.
IU football brings in 2x the revenue than does its basketball. It’s simple economics folks. The number of fans at a football game, parking, concessions is more than even a packed basketball game can generate. Exponentially more.
Does anybody want to take a guess how much revenue IU brings in annually to its entire athletic department?
$167 million. That’s 13th in the nation. It’s also why it could pay Tom Allen $15 million to accept his pink slip. The school isn’t poor.
Vandy a good basketball school as well...
Man the music is distracting
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SAD TRUTH IS … outside of about 15 teams. Everyone else is irrelevant Even Mississippi St, Baylor Texas Tech ,South Carolina , Purdue type schools etc etc are irrelevant, in todays college game WHICH SUCKS
Weren't those teams irrelevant 35 years ago?
I think IU is going to get better the next couple years. Cignetti is bringing an attitude shift to Bloomington
Anyone think that at some point with more expansion the Big 10 and SEC might drop the bad programs and replace with better ones? though in the end someone has to lose to have good teams. I have seen some videos where they propose a share system for payout. Do well for a few years your a bigger share and bad drops your share. Talking percentage of full shares.
The middle of the pack programs won't go for it. There's no way that an Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, get rid of Vandy, Arkansas, Miss State. With the addition of Clemson and Florida State, who becomes the bottom-feeders if those programs are kicked out? Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, Missouri
They still need the cupcakes to play.
I don't see anyone getting kick out of their conferences, but I can see the valuable football programs pulling out of their conferences to create a College Football Super League so they can maximize their value. The universities can fund all their non-revenue generating sports because it's not the football player's obligation to do it.
The next thing to hit the 2 superconferences (Big and SEC) will be disproportionate revenue sharing. Bank on it. The big programs will want a bigger piece of the pie and the other programs will take a lesser share and still stay because….well, it will be more than they can get anywhere else. That will be the next phase long before anybody gets kicked out.
Face it: college football with the huge NIL deals and unlimited transfer rules (aka free agency) is NOT college football anymore. It’s semi-pro ball. A developmental league. Anybody that says differently isn’t paying attention.
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Why does the thumbnail shows Vanderbilt Stadium with Virginia's logo on the scoreboard?
Bc just won a bowl game and hired Bill O’Brien?
OSU's former OC
LOL
Cal has been pretty irrelevant as of late. Gotta show some negativity out west
Not as irrelevant as ucla.
Cal is still the number one public university in the country, so their not completely irrelevant like some of these schools.
@@georgelucas2571 In football? Cal does not care and never will. Cal just rests on its Nobel lauretes.
But I thought there were no irrelevant teams in the B1G.
😂
They have football bottom feeders, like every conference does, but most of them are large state schools with large alumni and large loyal fan bases. Plus all of them have good academics and large research programs, which is way more profitable then sports. So they are still somewhat valuable for the conference.
If anyone uses this thing called Google, you can look up the top 25 revenue earning athletics departments in the country. 10 schools from the Big 10 and 15 from the SEC make up that list. Two are on the irrelevant list. Neither is dropping football with that much cash that they bring in.
Virginia has been great before, shame our big boosters and admin hate football.
Just sitting here with my fingers crossed. Go Hoos!
Indiana has a really cool stadium
Very much agreed and UVA is just fine also.
What I’m trying to figure out is why is there a UVa logo on the picture of Commodore Stadium
Looks like the ‘Hoos are the visiting team
A major disadvantage for Vanderbilt is that they can’t schedule Vanderbilt as an opponent.
Football P5 Academic Tiers
TIER I
- Stanford
- Duke
- Vanderbilt
- Northwestern
- USC
- UCLA
- UVA
- UNC
- Michigan
- Notre Dame
TIER II
- Florida
- Texas
- Georgia Tech
- Georgia
- Wisconsin
- Illinois
- Wake Forest
- Miami
TIER III
- Ohio State
- NC State
- Texas A&M
- Virginia Tech
- Penn State
- Clemson
- South Carolina
- Florida State
- Purdue
- Etc.
With the transfer portal and NIL, college football has about a dozen teams and that’s it.
Along with Maryland, Rutgers, Syracuse, SCAR, CAL, Stanford, Houston, etc...
Surprised Rutgers isn't on this list. Yet another doormat in the Big 10.
Rutgers is on the rise
They just beat Miami in their bowl game. So what does that say about them?
The music sounds like a 12 year old trying to play the Halloween theme.
Vanderbilt does give the SEC some badly needed class.
Vanderbilt is an easy target - Indiana also makes sense, but the others?
(In the last 5 years)
Wake Forest - Division Champs 2021, highest rank 9th in CFP, 2 Top 100 NFL Draft picks
Boston College - Bowl Eligible 4 of the last 5 seasons, 8 Top 100 NFL Draft Picks (3 First Rounders)
Virginia - Division Champs 2019, highest rank 18th in CFP, 2 Top 100 NFL Draft picks
Illinois - 2 Bowl Games, Built 22nd best facility (per 247), highest rank 16th in CFP, 8 Top 100 NFL Draft picks (1 First Round)
I would replace them with:
Duke - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 16th in CFP, 3 Top 100 NFL Draft picks
Kansas - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 16th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick
Stanford - No Bowl Games, highest rank 23rd in CFP, 6 Top 100 NFL Draft picks
Cal - 2 Bowl Games, highest rank 15th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick
Rutgers - 2 Bowl Games, unranked, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick
Arizona - 1 Bowl Game, highest rank 14th in CFP, 1 Top 100 NFL Draft pick (1 First Round)
Hard to believe Vandy beat the Vols three years in a row less than a decade ago.
Illinois has a cool stadium.
So, I think UMASS (Independent) should be added bc they pretend to be an FBS team. How was UMASS allowed to play Auburn last year & GA this year? UMASS would get destroyed by teams like Western KY.
Auburn, Georgia and the rest of the SEC thrive on cream-puff teams like UMass. Cream-puff games like these to me have turned college football into a joke when Power 5 teams play against schools such as the East Dakota School of Belly-Button Lint Removal.
The question should be why are Georgia and auburn allowed to play umass
That should be illegal.
Re: Indiana, I can remember when Northwestern was a perennial basement dweller in both football and basketball but have had very successful years lately.
There are so many programs that would be better off just folding football. I know they never will but some of these schools that are not very good would be interesting to really see their budget. Cal is a great example of a do nothing program. Have not been even slightly relevant in football for 20+ years.
Don’t forget Arizona State ! They reduced sun devil stadium from 71,000 to 55,000 and still can’t sell it out . Ppl don t care about football in Arizona !
We've had some legendary bad leadership. I don't disagree, we are lucky to not be on this list and it's due to our previous AD being an absolute moron with Herm Edwards. Hopefully the Big-12 jump is good with Dillingham at the helm.
Northwestern and Syracuse could be on this list for sure
Depressed Ginger is a Syracuse fan I think. He's suggested they host the NBA all star game in their arena for some dumbass reason.
Future is looking bright for Northwestern. Upgrade in facilities should at least keep them respectful record.
Eh depends. NW has a good year everyone once in a while, but they *played* in the worst division in all of college football. With the big10 going divisionless now, it will hurt them and Iowa tremendously
Compared to the teams in the video, Northwestern is a powerhouse! They are not in the same category of an Ohio State or Michigan, for sure. But in the last 10 years they have won the Big Ten West two times and have been in six bowl games (going 5-1). And finished the season ranked in the AP and Coaches poll four times. Not as bad as one would think. And with a new stadium and facilities on the way, it could get better.
NW was just in the B10 championship in 2018 & 2020. Pls do more research before commenting lol.
Maybe I should have said it as follows: A college is an institution of higher learning by definition. It’s not fair to call many schools who really only care about FB to be called a “college” any longer. They are simply semi-pro FB teams that are housed on a college campus. We need to start calling a spade a spade. Those 6 schools you mentioned are irrelevant with respect to semi-pro FB being played on college campuses. Huge difference. 99% of the young men who play FB for semi-pro teams would welcome a degree from a UVA. And they would live a better life.
As a Hoosiers fan, I personally feel like we are on the up, we have a new head coach, and yes we should have made the Big Ten championship over Ohio State.
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I too am an IU alum and fan. However, we lost the head to head game against OSU by a touchdown that year and don’t think we should have been in the championship game. It was a COVID year. It was just a weird season. Allen turned out to be a dud. He stunk the next three years. His defense, supposedly his hallmark, got worse. I do have more confidence in Cignetti. IU is 13th in the nation in athletic revenue. No reason for it to be so bad if it just took the sport of football seriously. Think about how Allen got the job. They did no national search. Fred Glass walked down the hall after he fired Kevin Wilson and offered the job on the spot to Allen. What functioning athletic department does that?
IU has had a revolving door of poor administration. It’s time we pony up to stay in the big boy sandbox. The Cignetti hire does seem like a positive step IU never did in the past.
As an Illinoisan and diehard Illinois fan, there just really that much of a love for football in this state. This is a basketball state and it shows
Unfortunately I was looking for my team the Arkansas Razorbacks. Kinda glad it wasn't there. When I was growing up we were good (1964-89). Enjoyed the video though. Next time try 20 teams since there are plenty who can't really even win our conference much less a Natty.
As George O’Leary said , a majority of teams are just collecting checks. When a program becomes complacent or apathetic how do you turn that around. How do you get boosters to put out more money. How do you get alumni and others to buy in.
I don’t think Virginia really cares, they’re like top 20 in revenue for overall athletic programs
Yeah, I think UVA is #4 in the Learfield rankings.
@@cheerjimfootball has always been a step child for the UVA administration
Maybe these schools (they are schools, not teams) expect to recruit student athletes rather than professional college athletes. How many of the people playing for the big programs graduate?
Great list. Only one I'm questioning is Illinois. Cause I'm from there, but your not lying.
Only 100 subscribers away from 100k. Well deserved ginger!
Sometimes Mr. Translucency
Makes videos just to hear himself talk
...and yet you listen to his every word.
Indiana has been irrelevant since Henry Gonso and John Isenberger played, with "sort of" exceptions for a couple of Lee Corso's teams. Maybe the one with Penix but that was Covid year too.
Decent teams in the late 80s and Anthony Thompson was Heisman runner up in 1989.
@jamesfields2916 Yes, forgot Anthony Thompson. He was tremendous.
Speaking of irrelevance….IU has been irrelevant in basketball for 25 years. It’s terrible and running on fumes from the past. The future of college sports is football. That’s the entire driver for media deals and realignments. IU went out and got Curt Cignetti and is upping its NIL game.
Dump the money in football to try and improve the future. All schools in the Power2 (Big and SEC) need to invest in football or be on the outside looking in. Basketball is a lost cause now. Terrible coaching and the program is inept.
Face it: if you invest in football and are serious, you can get an ROI.
UK did it and they are in the SEC. They now have 8-10 win seasons.
Woody and his circus is a lost cause.
@sullivan-pughvideoproducti5531 Really an interesting post. Hadn't thought of current issues in that way. I have to admit one of my favorite things to read is Dakich posts, especially on IU hoops (have to admit am Buckeye fan). He kind of speaks his mind on that....and everything else too.
Super interesting post.
@@jeffmerklin2022
I’m born and raised in Indiana. IU basically did nothing for its football program. Everything was overshadowed by Knight. They barely gave any support to Mallory in the way of investment.
The administration couldn’t envision a future where football is driving the boat. Now we are here and those schools that took football seriously are the big players in college athletics. It’s what drives everything now. Basketball is merely riding shotgun. When it comes to media deals, conference affiliations and realignments, nobody (NOBODY) is adding schools for their basketball programs. It’s why the Big Ten added schools like Washington, Oregon and USC. Millions of eyeballs in those markets watching football on Saturdays. I’ve always said that dumping all your efforts into basketball is not the right investment.
I would add Rutgers to any such list, especially considering that even if they were truly competitive, it wouldn't really matter much to most people in NJ itself.
Your entire take on Wake is pretty much completely wrong. Otherwise, pretty accurate list.
The state of Illinois produces plenty of talent, but most of the top recruits usually go to other Big Ten schools or Notre Dame - such as JJ McCarthy, for example.
What about Hawaii? I guess they were always irrelevant.
Some of these teams need the Harding Flexbone!
Hokies in Blacksburg was spared? ‘Enter Sandman’ is timeless, though Metallica would grow tired of them being mid for so long.
*KANSAS FINALLY OFF THE LIST!!!* 👏👏👏
I think Northwestern is more irrelevant than Illinois in the new Big 10. Indiana might be safe because of their basketball program. It's just a matter of time before Vanderbilt gets the pink slip from the SEC. Your other three irrelevant teams are in what could soon be an irrelevant league.
They better start taking football seriously or they may find themselves on the outside of the Super League looking in, when the valuable football programs leave their conferences to maximize their value.
Not having cal on this list is just flat out insane
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Kansas not making the list proves we are in Advanced Irrelevancy
Damn, it makes me sad that Illinois is on this list. Illinois use to be good before the turn of the millennium.
On the flip side, I liked how you included the bubble in Memorial Stadium. That’s how Illinois used to practice in the winter before they got their training facility.
INDIANA FOOTBALL MENTIONED, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
I think Indiana is going to surprise people with their new coach. Granted, most people still won't care at all.
We’ll all be wishing upon a star that the decrepit old cigar smoker, Woody, will get them to a sweet 16. I’d try to improve football to decency before spending one dime on that trainwreck basketball program. Terrible coaching hires have doomed that mess.
Nebraska should be on this list. 💯
Wake forest isnt irrelevant if youre a clemson fan...i hateeee playing them boogers lol
NO BIG XII teams??? You mention recruiting as a prime category have you looked at that conference recruiting wise??? Only about 5 recruit top 50. There is a reason they were left behind... Seems you have a bias against ACC even with your own metrics. Beating other Big XII teams is akin to beating other teams that should be on your list. You Yormark's son or something? LOL
Why no Colorado??? What have they done the past 30 years versus those on your list? Even with Deon. You definitely were very selective in your choices to have 0 from the weakest conference that nobody wanted to raid even when the opportunity was there after OU and UT bailed.
Name a Big 12 team more irrelevant than the ACC teams on this list. Colorado is far from irrelevant lmao and I’m not a CU fan.
@@samcoppock3370 I can only see one that is...how is that for you? Utah, with a possible asterisk to Ariz if they can ever get consistent like years ago. Take out OU and Tex games and even Duke gets the same or better ratings and that's for football. There is a reason nobody wanted the Big XII leftovers and there is a reason that nobody truly knows just whom the Big I / SEC will take. The only no brainers are likely UVA and UNC. UVA ratings flat out suck but everyone wants to have a team there so that they will own that state and get the premium dollars for their network. TV networks get a premium (around .40 cents more per month) if a team is in that state. That is why UNC is likewise so valuable. FSU is pushing the threshold so that they can hopefully land one of the spots left. First out hopefully beats others to the punch line and hopefully takes some control out of the Big two hands..."hey we are here and available type of mindset". UNC is the prize. UM, Louisville, NC State, GT, VPI, Clempsum, are all at the top of the Big XII with viewership and Cal and Stanford not far behind and there is a reason they stuck their noses up at the Big XII. Leave your bias out and just think logically. Why would they turn down Big XII even when it is imploding? Why be in limbo while praying for a life line when the Big XII came calling??? Colorado was an exception in year one of Deon...but what about without him? Would they drop below Houston? LOL That is the Big XII's problem. And it is why you should not be surprised if the remaining ACC teams just reform with additions rather than joining the Big XII. Just a heads up for you.
@@samcoppock3370 all of them
The only big 12 team I would give you is maybe Kansas and they are lightyears ahead of most of these schools at this moment in time… also the big 12 actually fills their stadiums with actual fans
@@gagebyers1057 exactly! and KU is far from irrelevant. They’ve been relevant for the wrong reasons for 13 years and now they’re relevant for such a great turnaround!
And those are the teams I’m gonna play with in NCAA 25 and make em a powerhouse 😉
Whew!....glad my beloved HAWGS weren't mentioned....missed it by that👌 much...!😳
Absolutely love the videos on college football, but please don’t use background music.
We need a 100k sub special ginger!! I wanna see you do some trolling on a live! 😂
Props WHEN he gets the Silver Play Button
wheres notre dame??? they are the only team I ever hear being reported as irrelevant and yet you didnt mention them ??? bad list
Quit ripping on the acc
The thumbnail is misleading. That was not a Vanderbilt game. That was a game against UVA and Ohio. It was moved to a neutral site due to a hurricane (I think) that was occurring in Virginia. That’s why there were so few people there. I get your point about Vandy but that is not a vandy crowd. Stop being misleading.
Just me or a lot of content floating around picking on the ACC recently. Not really sure why Wake landed on this list? A small school that punches above there weight. 10+ bowls games in the past 20 years and not to mention 15 or so current NFL players. NIL really hurts Wake at the end of the day.
Same thing was going on when the Pac 12 was folding everyone picking on schools.
The ACC is about to implode to never be seen again.
Unfortunately, this is a poor video filled with misinformation and extreme bias against the ACC, I would take the 3 ACC teams you mentioned in a heartbeat over half of the teams in the Big 12 (were there any Big12 teams in this video). I don't know what your criteria for bowl games is but you mentioned that BC hadn't been in a bowl game since the days of the Big East. ??????????? They beat a ranked team in a bowl last year. won the Atlantic Division in the ACC twice, and were ranked as high as number 2 in the country and just missed playing for the national championship - all after the days of the Big East. So please get your facts straight before speaking falsehoods.
This is the most irrelevant video I ever accidentally clicked
Crazy as it seems Boston College is my favorite irrelevant program. I hope they somehow remain Power 4 status.
I like Boston College too. I go to a Jesuit university (Georgetown) so I root for Georgetown basketball and Boston College football. I dig Georgetown football too but we are FCS ass right now
Vandy FB players need to form a union, then get NIL $ from good teams that kill them or just refuse to play the game.
Illinois has been a sad train wreck of a football program for almost 50 years, they have never been able to recapture those golden years if the early 1980s when they finally went to the Rose Bowl (which they lost haha). Now they have a coach that is so fat that if he puts on any more weight you are going to see him going up and down the sidelines in a mobility scooter during games.
Another team you could’ve listed, and there’s many others course, is Rice.
Cal might be the most irrelevant program in the country across any major sport.. football, baseball, men & women’s basketball.. it’s desolate.
So interesting that the 6 teams you mention are 6 of the finest academic schools in the Country. The most relevant schools are frankly not colleges with any academic value. The 6 you mention are colleges. Most of the very relevant FB programs are semi-pro teams not colleges which is a place where student/athletes are located. You might not see that clearly right now but you will in the near future.
Villanova
Boston college going to getting better
How did i know IU would be the first one
Pitt deserves a spot on this list.
Let's hope that Phil Cignetti can get the Hoosiers back to relevancy.
Curt cignetti
First of all, not a Wake alum, but, it is obvious Depressed Ginger has never attended a game at Wake Forest. I have attended many games there over the years and it is a great stadium to see a game. Parking is easy in and out, easy in and out of the stadium and there is not a bad seat in the house. He is right on UVa...they are perennial losers. Scott Stadium is known as Lane Stadium East when the Virginia Tech/UVa game is in Charlottesville.
Over the last 10 years Illinois is number 10 in states that have produced the most NFL draft picks. Do some research before you start spitting out bs
That makes their program even worse because their state's best recruits don't even take them seriously.
Maryland
You left Georgia Tech out. They will be playing in the Sunbelt in a few years.