I thought it was incredible. On par with the originals. A modern retelling of a classic. I don’t know how people could watch it and think it wasn’t good
Fun fact, this was originally going to be about space farmers on a space moon, in space. Using a bluer hue, more in line with the originals. They were going to be focusing more on the empire like corp, and the kids joining together to fight against the system. Kinda like in Star Wars. Hence the original production title: Rebel Moon. Which everyone realized sounded terrible.
Glad to hear Holms' widow consented. I was kinda put off by the posthumous use of Ian (got into it by the end), but that does make it a little less exploitive.
They just should’ve made Rook’s face more messed up. He’s supposed to be this broken android that got melted with acid and yet his face is barely melted or even messed up if he was a little more broken apart, and they kept the voice. It would’ve been fine.
I just commented this somewhere else lol, I thought the same thing! It could have side-stepped the weird deepfake face thing which was distracting to me, and could have added to the gross & creepy factor of the film if they had to deal with an android with a melted face.
@@EmDub01 just spitting up white blood and falling apart. The movie’s already very body horror, some techno body horror, more than we got, would’ve been sick.
Definitely. I thought the same thing, too. There were two shots where I think Rook looked fit-for-purpose. 1: Its initial awakening (dark and angled shot with its contorted face). 2: when it crawled across the control panel to check on the status of compound Z-01 (mostly its head was downward facing and then side profiled). A half-mangled face would have been perfect.
@@0volts157 that’s what I’m saying! like it looked enough like him in the dark. Like i already could tell it was him, that actual reveal was such a spotlight reference reveal, like, “OH MY GOD IT’S THE GUY FROM THE THING!” Much like I thought with Peter Cushing’s Tarkin in Rogue One, less would’ve been better. Like when Krennick talks to him and all you could see was his reflection, that would’ve been perfect. They didn’t need to take it further than that. Same with this, they could’ve been so much more creative and subtle with it. We didn’t need to see his face like that, if we just heard his voice it would’ve been enough.
I think hours of sunlight "0" is a measurement regardless of weather so it is either dark side of planet or a planet where there is just no sunlight from other bodies blocking it
@@bradleyc543 I guess terraforming could be doing the heavy lifting but if a planet was dark because it actually received no sunlight at all because it was in a shadow, it would probably be frozen solid at roughly the ambient temperature of space hundreds of degrees Celsius below zero. If it was sufficient geothermal to fight that off then you have the problem of the entire surface being basically lava. Obviously this is all fictional nonsense, but I reckon the easiest solution was it's dark because of it being cloudy, like that tragic children's short story about colonists on Venus (written when we thought the clouds on Venus were storm clouds).
Ik people are mixed on the ending but I freaking loved it. Similar to the first alien movie, the threat isn’t so much the xenomorph as it is the human’s hubris and fear. Kay took the serum out of fear for her baby, but it was the hubris of the main characters that didn’t account for what Rook meant by an “upgrade” for humanity. So the idea that even after they escaped the xenomorph, there was another looming threat I think added to the horror factor. And my favorite thing about the xenohuman hybrid is that it falls right into the uncanny valley. It looks alien but it also has enough human features that it’s not immediately clear what animalistic traits it inherited and that added a whole new level of suspense.
Not to mention they take the serum and leave without actually seeing all the footage. If they waited like 30 seconds, they'd have seen the truth. Granted the situation, but still. It really is sad that she could have actually survived until she injected herself with that stuff. I actually thought she'd end up in cyro and the next movie would follow up on that plot point as like "Oh fuck when's it gonna happen" to build some tension. But I guess we have to end an alien movie with fighting one alien on a ship and shooting it into space out an airlock.
The Offspring was creepy as hell! I got the Alien Resurrection vibes they were laying down in the finale, but the concept was far and away superior to the Newborn from that film. When the Offspring went back to his mother, I wondered if it was going to feel love for her (like in Resurrection). When it began to nurse the black goo from her breast, it was ghoulish! The sick grin it had on it's face as it thought it was about to kill Rain, was terrifying. I freakin' loved the movie!
Actually, if you remember, she was told by an android that serum would heal her injuries, she literally was given no other information and doesn't know why the other girl wouldn't let her take it. She didn't even see the video of it healing the rat. As far as she knows, Andy wouldn't lie to her, she thinks she's dying, it only makes sense for her to take it, baby or not.
@@zogwort1522I don’t think any of that qualifies as the “meat” of the movie. You’re just complaining about little details that don’t actually matter to the story. It doesn’t matter if the xenomorph doesn’t get sucked out into space, what matters is that there’s enough remnants on the ship for the main characters to understand what happened. It doesn’t matter if the facehugger is still alive after it impregnated her, what matters is that now she has a chesburster which serves as a chekhov’s gun to the story. I judge movies based on the effectiveness of the story, not how air tight the technicalities are.
@@darthsirrius whether it was for her baby or for herself the decision was clearly made out of fear made evident by Isabela’s performance. She’s very much the ‘Lambert’ of this movie.
I can see them doing a sequel to Romulus, with Raine getting to that dream planet of hers and find it was all a lie from the corporation to give them false hope. And that it's already overrun with aliens and hybrids.
Yeah, I reckon she'll get there and it'll be where David went with all the frozen colonists at the end of Covenant. I think Rain still had that container of black goo as well, don't remember it getting destroyed at the end.
Because you try to bring up the movie and the shrink says "I haven't seen it yet no spoilers". What are you gonna talk about if not the movie, your feelings? Come on now
For the character they debate if it worked for them or not, in my opinion it worked best when you see them through the computer screen. I think that was a clever way to hide any technical funkyness
I think they could have added some facial damage to Rook to disguise some of the cgi, but I agree that using the grainy displays really helped to soften the effect.
@@LordVolkovThey should have just used an entirely new character instead of treading into the uncanny valley. Or hell, they really should have used Michael Fassbender to be a different artificial human. That would actually connect Prometheus/Covenant to the whole franchise even more.
@@eyespy3001 Using Fassbender again, even for a non-David android like Walter, wouldn't jive with the timeline I suspect (Covenant is set 20ish years before Alien, but they were in space for a long time before the movie starts). Andy is already an obsolete model by the time of the Ash/Rook, who is extremely obsolete by the time of Bishop. The production androids come out at a fairly steady pace in the WeylandYutani-verse and using Ian's face firmly grounds Romulus in the specific era gap between Alien and Aliens. I suspect that the Andy model replaced the Walter, and then Ash for Andy. Having said all that... I think using de-aging on Lance Henriksen as a prototype-Bishop that's ruthless like an Ash could have been cool and a more ethical choice than using Ian (even with his widow's consent).
@@LordVolkov Do you think the casual movie-goer knows or cares about any of that? 🤣 Aside from that, the androids production cycle or release cycle (whatever you want to call it) has never been addressed in any movie save for Bishop saying “the older models were always a bit twitchy” in Aliens. It easily could have been Fassbender instead of some CGI hubris misfire. It’s one of those instances where just because they could, doesn’t mean they should.
@@eyespy3001but they didn't want to go with b or c. They wanted an Ash model intentionally as a misdirect. It'd be like if we saw Bishop as Wayland or something. Imo it workt really well outside of the technical aspect
For me this movie fired on every cylinder it needed. It had a simple mission statement but it found ways to take ideas from the older movies and spin them. Every set piece was creative and it was just such a tight, rock solid adventure.
@@zogwort1522 plot holes exist in every film. If the plot holes do not break my suspension of disbelief, I see no issue. For example, whenever someone makes a dumb decision in a horror movie specifically, unless it’s REALLY egregious, I never hold it against them. I’ve been in low stress situations where my brain fully goes out the window, if someone is in a crazy life or death and they make a fairly boneheaded decision, who am I to judge? Again within reason. And rock solid just meaning it had a specific goal and it did it very well.
@@zogwort1522 The Alien franchise is full of weird plot holes. Don't treat them like they're new in this movie - this was still _leagues_ better than the prequels just in terms of being a movie with a good script and characters. Don't start being a Star Wars fan about it.
@@zogwort1522 That's not what being a fan means. That's called being a consoomer. Big difference. Being a fan just means you accept that your favourite band makes a bad album sometimes and then you move on with your life.
@@zogwort1522 You seem to have a penchant for adding a lot of implied meanings to words that do not necessarily have them, as well as straight up just making up your own definitions entirely. It's hard to try and sound smart when you don't even know what the definition of a "fan" is... If I were you, in the future I would refrain from explaining words you don't really understand to other people
I think people that complain about this movie being a remix of other aliens miss the point. They are gonna run these franchises into the ground one way or another. I’d rather something like this than bullshit like Covenant that ruins the lore.
Andy is the highlight of the movie and was absolutely incredibly acted. And, as someone who doesn’t normally like horror, I really appreciated that there was only one jump scare which was unexpected - all of the others are in already tense scenarios where they would be expected. My main complaint is that I think the setup is too long, and if I rewatch the movie I’m probably going to skip the first 30-ish minutes. Everything past that is a great non-stop experience.
Alien: Romulus feels like a love letter and an apology to the franchise as a whole. It's easily got the most relateable characters with understandable real-world motivations since Aliens, Andy is in it, and their alien hybrid was so much better than the sad, sad boy. The nods to other movies are great, too, and if anything make the Prometheus movies a little better if only in memory. The alien hybrid looks a whole bunch like the Engineers, and that cannot be on accident. Also I genuinely appreciate that Alvarez went aaaaaaaall in on the horrific vaginal imagery. It's like he's yes-anding Geiger.
@@ThreadBomb Relatable doesn't mean you like them, it means you can understand their motivations as ones that another human being would have. Something that was hugely missing in the Prometheus movies, where characters just do things their characters would probably question just because the movie needs to keep happening. And if you, in the year of our lord 2024, have trouble relating to a group of people saddled with the impossible debts of their parents by a casually cruel system and doing something stupid and desperate to try and escape... well, okay.
I’m surprised by how many people didn’t like this movie. I thought it was quite good and the best alien movie in a long time. Also the hybrid didn’t seem to land for a lot of people but it creeped me out
It’s doing well at the box office. And people are talking about it… I think the people that didn’t like this movie are being super vocal about it for whatever reason…. I know a bunch of people who enjoyed it quite a bit actually I thought it was a good movie! Not as good as the first two, but has its own identity in a way, and I have a feeling as time goes on this will be talked of more fondly I think the current anger towards it is knee-jerk reaction to the things in the movie that people would prefer weren’t there and nothing more
@@ExtremeMadnessXyeah I thought it was gonna end with a kinda of "What's gonna happen next time with the chick that injected herself" as a sort of ticking time bomb. But it's an alien movie, gotta end with the main character fighting an alien and killing it out of an airlock
@@ExtremeMadnessXI wouldn’t like it as much if it ended there. I was actually scared by that hybrid thing more than pretty much anything in the whole franchise
@Wojtek-nh3kb its not even just a matter of the callbacks the film borrows a lot of the same sort of vibes and story beats as the other films. Its not a bad thing it just adds to the vibe that the film doesnt really do anything new.
@Wojtek-nh3kb other than the zero gravity fight, everything in this movie was done before in a sequel/ prequel. The los angeles building evil dead movie did the same
@Joshml98 me when the alien movie doesn't have unwanted religious undertones and posing questions of greater morality and instead is an alien movie. Plus there's way more new stuff they do. The new pulse rifle, explaining why the company has always chased the xenos, the creature at the end, as you mentioned the zero g, a young cast which is a first, and more xenos on screen then most other alien movies minus aliens.
Going into this movie, I just wanted it to re-establish why the xenomorph is such a feared creature and horror icon, and for the first act or so I thought we were getting that. I was so disappointed when it quickly devolved into a homage / replay of the original quadrilogy, to the point where the xenomorph isn't even the final threat. The 'offspring' was an interesting idea and made for some effective shots and scares, but I don't feel like it belonged in this movie - or at least the xenomorphs shouldn't have been so quickly shoved out of the way to make room for it.
I don't know where people get this delusion that the alien is some sort of massive threat and takes damage like a truck. They're about as strong as tissue paper and always have been. they're not strong, they're not really that deadly unless you have no weapons. They have literally always relied on sheer numbers to overwhelm whatever they're attacking. The only reason it wiped out the crew in Alien is because they were a bunch of hick miners with no weapons on board, they had to make those flamethrowers. They took out the space marines in Aliens because there were so many of them, it was overwhelming.
If they would have updated it with the C word, that would've been hilarious... They should have just left the line at "get away from her." Everyone made the connection without the hesitation, and then... "you bitch." That Xeno kill by Andy was pretty sick though.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. Perfect blend of Alien, Aliens, and Prometheus. I could have done without a few jump scares, but besides that everything was great. Acting/casting, props/costumes, set design, cgi/practical effects was all phenomenal.
I could have done with more! Wish it had leaned into horror a bit more, more Alien and less Aliens. But it did s good job trying to walk the line between them, even if it wasnt perfect
Call me a fake fan, but I had only seen Alien when I saw this. So the "get away from her you bitch" line worked for me by itself because they set it up earlier when Andy hears one of the crew say "Bitch"
Yeah, it didn't come out of nowhere and it made sense in context. Would I have preferred if they went for something else? Sure, but people act like it ruined the movie when it's just a minor complaint at best. There's so much good this movie does
yep, same experience here. and I love how uncomfortable andy was with swearing, it was almost adorable in a way. good moment of levity. got a nice laugh out of the audience in my theatre.
@@bluegrave4376 It's fair to say that the insertion was out of place and felt forced though, consequently ruining immersion by taking the viewer out by such a dumb shoehorned reference. It's kind of insulting to the viewers intelligence imo, like everyone's supposed to point and cheer and clap, "omg I got the reference!" that type of shi
@15:15 “Second David” is named Walter, James. He’s my favorite character in Covenant, but also one of my favorites in the entire series. Maybe one day we’ll get to find out what happened to him. 😔
@@sproductionsinc We see Walter and David fighting, it cuts away mid-fight, and the next we see David has taken the place of Walter. It suggests Walter was destroyed, but that isn't confirmed.
@@philipsalama8083 Oh, does it “suggest” that? It doesn’t suggest anything, fckin’ beta. You provided no new information or analyses. One of the biggest tropes in Hollywood is of there are twins, they’re guaranteed to trade places. All Covenant ““suggests”” is that David got the jump on Walter and changed his clothes. You should really try to think before you speak/type something.
@@philipsalama8083 Exactly, it’s not confirmed. The scene combines two of Hollywood’s oldest tropes - if there are twins, they’ll trade places; and if you don’t see someone’s body, they aren’t dead. David survived, Walter can too. It’s sad because this film had the first human-android romance. Well, the beginnings of one.
Very happy Alien Romulus improved Alien’s batting average. Didn’t know Fede worked with the Holm family to get permission etc., very happy knowing that. I initially was like oh yeah Ian passed away, but then I think the part Rook played wasn’t bad.
quickly missed but im sure Rook says that these are rapidly evolving as they are basically messed with and so faster to evolve. (but yeah business decision to keep the films pace with thin excuse to keep it going).
It does make sense within the film, all the specimens are destroyed by the end so there's no continuation of this genetic line of xenos. Plus they had the black goo, and we have seen how that works over 2 films prior. The only problem I had was how they had the black goo in the first place.
I didn't mind the more rapid pace. And the chest buster seems like a premie (it had a lot of trouble getting out 😅) that erupted from its hosts increased stress state.
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The only thing I wish was clearer was what the hybrid was doing to Kat. I thought it was nursing from her because she had the goop coming from her chest, but it seemed like it drank all her fluids or something... Loved how creepy the hybrid was though.
@@LordVolkov I'm pretty sure it did drain her out. The oozing stuff was the black goo coming out of her would after it mixed with her DNA. At first it looks like she was just gonna nurse it and then they'd have the bioweapon Wayland yutani has wanted all along. Could have been an interesting idea to explore, though idk how they could pull it off and not have it seem silly.
@@afunkymonke I was almost expecting to see it nursing from her and Kat to try and defend it from Rain/Andy in some twisted motherhood moment. That would have really fit in with the twisted sexual themes of Romulus (Gieger would have been so proud of multiple horrid births 🤢). I think maybe I just want Isabel Merced to have a bigger role 🤔 she was a bit underutilized.
@LordVolkov I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that regarding her. I know she's gonna be in the new DC film slate as I believe HawkGirl/Woman, and she's been in a few other big profile movies though not all successes like Madame Web. Maybe it was due to scheduling with other projects like I think she's in Superman Legacy, or maybe that's just what the role was always going to be and she got lucky and made a nice paycheck not having to do too much. For what she had to work with, she did good with the role and it does make sense you wouldn't have a sick pregnant woman walking all over a space station.
I had so many thoughts about what would happen to Kay and her baby. Would she be the bridge from Ridley Scott's original plan for the xenomorph to lay eggs to James Cameron's alien queen? Would her baby be "pure" Engineer? Would her baby be Newt? Would the entire pregnancy be a red herring and she would survive? Would the entire pregnancy be a red herring and she was extubated while napping on the ship by the facehugger that dove down that hole during the chase sequence? I never expected her to give birth to Mark Zuckerberg and his Y-shaped cloaca.
@@Grant-i9llet’s be honest, it did ruin the film. The movie’s incessant insistence on constantly referencing other, better movies just makes it hard to watch. The cgi Android killed the movie for me. Everything after that was just kicking its dead body. Then when the line came, I nearly cringed out of my chair. Worst movie I’ve seen in theatres since ghostbusters afterlife.
I really want it to see the end of the Prometheus saga. Was more story oriented than just chest bursting, don’t get me wrong I like that too, but want it to know the whole story of how everything got created
My immediate take away after seeing this film was that a quick edit to cut out some of the more awkward moments would make this movie 50% better. It feels like the film was not edited down enough for the purpose of making it a theatrical length. I strongly disliked the direct quote references from Alien 1 and 2 as well as some of the plot hand holding and and moments like the one after Andy refuses to open the door to save the pregnant girl and rain says to Andy "how could you" even though Andy already explained his decision saved all their lives. Cutting out as much of Rooks appearance as possible would also go a long way. This movie did not suck but it has a lot of suck in it.
I don't think that's really hand holding. How could you and why would you are not the same question. The humans are just being human and acting on emotion instead of logic. Logically they can understand why an android would do that but emotionally they still can't accept it
Mostly agreed. The "how could you?" moment is an okay character bit: it's showing you the guy doesn't have the ability to make detached, logical decisions with regards to Kay and will take bad risks to help her.
"Andy, are you still in there?" can go. big scream after the bald lady gets chest bursted can go. a lot of the jump scare sound effects can go to make the actual jump scares land even better. maybe scuff up the characters a bit and make them look less netflix. "I'm turning off the gravity" can go too because we can read the word "gravity" on the button she presses and we just heard the joke about gravity.
Idk, I saw it as less a Greatest Hits compilation and more… a remix compilation. The ideas weren’t new, but the execution consistently was. Every call-back had a new little twist on the original. My only gripe would probably be Rook’s “you have my sympathies” callback, which did seem a little shoehorned. Hardly enough to sink the whole movie for me, though, I’m not that unreasonable lmao EDIT: also, I really didn’t think the Ian Holm CG was that bad, I don’t know what y’all saw that I didn’t. It’s hardly Rogue One Tarkin-level quality, and tbh the jankiness really worked for the character, at least for me. Plus, like I said in a different comment, Alvarez went above and beyond to get the family’s blessing, he got an actor to stand in, made a whole-ass animatronic, and specifically spoke on how he has no interest in digitally replacing actors, not least of all because one actor costs a whole lot less than the people and resources needed to recreate Holm the way he did. Again, Grand Moff Tarkin, this was NOT. Fede put the work in.
But why even use Ian Holm's likeness? Why not create a new, interesting android played by an established (living) actor or a new up and comer? Rationalize it all you want but at the end of the day, it's still member berries.
@@joshs.1349 I mean… we did get that. We got both. And as far as member berries go, I really like how they pulled it off. It was nostalgia bait, sure, but it wasn’t cheap. Thought was put in.
@@waltascher honest to god, I never noticed it. I could tell it wasn’t real, but I swear, I really didn’t see the glaring flaws everyone else seemed to. And it’s not like I wasn’t looking.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie There was no depth to it at all. It might as well have been animated on paper. And I say that as someone who is generally not sensitive to CGI quality. Generally speaking, I think CGI is doing its job as long as it effectively conveys the story information it wants to tell. But this took me right out.
My god, hearing him say, "finding a crucifix on an engineer.." made me queezy. Because if they had thought of that, SOMEONE would've pitched it. Dodged a bullet there.
I wish the next one has a new director. I like how they each add something to the franchise. Alvarez add how facehuggers detect people and that the alien can undergo crypotobiosis to survive in space. Jeuget introduced human alienhybrid and swimming aliens. Fincher alien biology on other spiecies (dog and cow). Cameron added Weyland Yutani colonizing other worlds and a queen, insect colony take on the aliens.
@@LordVolkov The holes in alien skulls for sure reminded me of ARes. Elevator shaft/ladder climb. Then the finale. But that was done well, so I was ok. If AR had done such newborn, it could kind of redeem the movie.
Last video you guys were talking about eXistenZ, this time you're talking about one of my favorite games of all time, Flashback. This has been a blessed week.
Having seen all the films in the series, and after watching this film for me it is a SOLID 8 out of 10. It's not perfect, but it does the job well. It fulfills the goal of being an entertaining alien movie, and it achieves that EASILY. It looks great! it has an awesome cinematography. It should be seen on the largest screen possible with great speakers. And although some dispute the final part, that was the part that I liked the most since it is where Álvarez's touch is most visible. I want to see it again! Especially for THAT final part.
the next alien film will be directed by Zach Snyder and it will be call Army of Ash, literally thousands of androids vs thousands of aliens in slo mo for 6 hours, all CG
Loved it! Amazing cinematography, excellent sound design and great practical effects! Rock solid tension, excellent pacing and great action! As a gore hound my only complaint was i hoped fede would go harder on the gore but all in all i loved it. Andy was the MVP for sure such an excellent character and incredibly acted! aliens was always my favourite and I know im gonna get some shit for this but top three alien films for me are now 1 Aliens, 2 Alien Romulus, 3 Alien.
4/10 for alien Romulus - Andy the android was the biggest highlight of the movie, I can see the actor’s career becoming huge after his performance in this movie
I just thought it was awesome, mostly a thriller and with a truly horrifying final act. It was everything I expected from an Alien movie, plus if you love Alien Isolation like I do, you feel right at home. I love the characters weren’t idiots for a change, and I loved the fresh ideas like the auto-aim gun and the zero-G hallway shootout, then flying through the acid, then the elevator, the twists and turns! ahhh!!!! It’s SO GOOD
Honestly felt like I had stepped into the game in some scenes. All the sounds felt like they were directly ripped from the game (which probably got a lot of their sounds from Alien but I play Isolation at least once a year, I haven't seen Alien in AGES)
Come to think of it, this movie had many video game-like sequences, to the point where if I looked down and noticed I was holding a controller, I wouldn't have been surprised. The sneaking-through-the-room-while-not-making-any-noise sequence- video game. The pulse rifle shootout- video game. The zero-gravity acid dodging- video game. The elevator shaft sequence- video game. Fede Alvarez DEFINITELY had video games on the brain when making this movie. To be clear, though, it wasn't necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion. It's kind of an interesting way to create a plot, where there's always a clear goal in the action set pieces.
The whole movie feels like a video game, which is a bad thing, because it's a movie. There's not a single actually scary or tense scene which makes it a complete failure in anything but set design.
I think Ridley Scott has always been the best man for this franchise. My own ranking of the franchise so far. 1. Alien (1979) 2. Alien: Covenant (2017) 3. Prometheus (2012) 4. Alien 3 (1992) 5. Aliens (1986) 6. Alien: Romulus (2024) 7. Alien: Ressurection (1997)
holy shit this is genuinely insane, alien 3 over aliens ? you’re fucking trolling. you’re not a real human being. watch those movies again and again until you don’t say this stupid shit ever again. fucking gross.
alien 3 better than fucking aliens and romulus ? what a fucking joke man, you have the worst taste i’ve ever seen, ever, opinions can be wrong, this is wrong
Since this movie in timeline took place after isolation, I was kind of hoping for Romulus station to have a working joe walking around because the aliens don't attack them.
Working Joes are androids of WY rivals, Seegson Corp. or w/e. They could have used a David version, not David 8. For me callbacks and Rook were biggest issue, bigger than Rain being suuuuper lucky in two scenes, when things worked out well, when she should have got propper fked. Ripley was never that lucky, she was calculative and cold. Rain is cool though, while being like 1.5m tall 😄
I was hoping to see a Working Joe, but yes it wouldn't have made narrative sense. Seegson as a company pretty much died with Sevastopol as far as we know.
Just got back from seeing this and absolutely loved it. My first time seeing an Alien movie in the cinema and I'm really glad this was the one becuase it was beutiful. Fell in love with Alien Isolation a couple of years ago and I'm so happy they used it as such heavy inspiration for the set design. Seeing these environments and the Space station backed by the astroid belt on the big screen was such a joy. I have very few complaints, the first and most major is the use of Ian Holm. even if you look past the moral quandries of brigning back a dead actor in the way (and that's a big if). it just didn't look very good and took me out of the film. I also felt it made some of the exposition feel a bit clunky and the film would have probably been better if trhey just cut him out entirely. I also found all the many nostalgia moments to be far too on the nose and take me out of the film, especially the get away from her you ... line. Last small nitpick is I kinda wish it was more gruesome. Like when that guy got covered in acid I was expecting it to eat all the wway through him and was a bit disapointed it stopped so early. Those complaints didn't stop me from having an amazing time though. Still an excellent film in my view.
There were too many callbacks, but it was a solid action-thriller. Hope we get another installment that continues to explore the world of Aliens instead of just copying and repeating what came before.
I absolutely loved it and can't wait to see again. The callbacks to Alien and Aliens made me love it even more. I hope the franchise keeps moving in this direction (Not so much the nostalgia trip for future installments tho, that would get tiresome very fast but It worked for me with this one as I felt like this movie was a revival of the franchise)
Reminded me of the redlettermedia rogue one review. Remember when Ripley said "Get away from her you bitch"? Remember Ian Holm?? It is a shame because the rest of the movie was really enjoyable to me, the endless callbacks for the fanboys were just insufferable.
@@Storgud this movie really doesn't have a memberberries problem. I'm getting sick of hearing that. One or two callback lines and the Ash character do not make up nearly the whole film...
@@anthonymartensen3164holy hell are you kidding man? I can name 3 scenes off the top of my head that are almost shot for shot. Learning how to use the pulse rifle-almost identical to aliens. The shot of Rein walking out of the elevator into the nest- Ripley did this first(it’s even got the flashing yellow light for godsake), and then when buddy gets stabbed and sees the swarm of aliens coming towards him, that’s almost an identical shot to Hicks seeing the aliens crawling through the ceiling in Aliens. You can enjoy this movie and that’s fine, but you can’t be serious in thinking there was “one or two member berries.” Common man.
I think they kept Rook around too long, it detracted from David Jonssons performance having another Android on screen, especially one you could instantly tell was going to be evil given our history with that model, maybe have him download Rooks knowledge (if that's possible in universe, but lets be honest Lore is often fast and loose) so he could continue Rooks role for the better of the company, then have him being damaged allow for Rain to take the chip out as she did. Not to mention another uncanny valley CGI face, those so very rarely work and often just bring me out of the film. Especially when I know the actor has passed. There was a lot I liked about the film. We could see where it fit into the timeline neatly and the nods to Alien with the original Xenomorph was nice. Them acknowledging the Xeno was hunting them by spotting it on the camera was cool, as in the original you could often spot it lurking before it eventually attacked. The death of Bjorn from Acid was some good horror gore. And Tyler dying so brutally without even getting his hero shooting moment was a nice touch. This felt more in kin with the originals than what we got with Covenant. Certainly felt like part of the franchise. Cailee Spaeny continues to impress. I wouldn't be against seeing her again in a future Alien role. I admit I wouldn't be against David showing back up though as Fassbender was the star of the previous two films.
Yea you kinda hit the nail on the head for all the franchise. It's just a sequence of ideas being mimicked across all subsequent films. At least there's one or two new shocks in each movie... but most of them I'm just like "oh... It's the thing from aliens... Again. Right. Oh and I remember when they did that in promethius... Heh. But now it's even more of that. That's neat, i guess?" like how many god damn times are we gonna have an android working for a evil company who want to get hold of the alien inside somebody or on a station??? It's not even a spoiler it's every alien film to date.
@@zogwort1522 Well to be fair, Ash was a new model for his time in Alien. This movie takes place a good while after that movie, so it stands to reason more people would now be familiar with it. It's far from a plot hole, much less one of the worst in the franchise. Don't forget that about 250 years after this movie, a sample of Ripley's blood is going to yield a fully grown adult clone with queen nestled inside because that's how DNA works apparently.
@@zogwort1522 In Alien, it's a surprise that there's an android. However by Alien Isolation, which is canon and takes place five years before this movie and fifteen years after the original, androids on ships and facilities are already ubiquitous and normal. So yes, it makes perfect sense that a mass-produced science officer model that looks like Ash exists. Isolation came out a decade ago so it's not like we haven't had time to figure that out.
@@zogwort1522 The Working Joe's were made that way because Seegson cut corners wherever they could to keep costs low and profit high. The "reassurance" was just a byproduct. The Weyland Yutani android looks very much like a human.
@@zogwort1522 Well, Ash may have been designed to infiltrate a crew, but Rook and his design wasn't infiltrating a crew, he was part of an actual station who's specific purpose was to research the Alien corpse, they weren't likely to be using him for infiltration purposes. And the name in reference to Bishop just adds another little link between Alien and Aliens.
Really liked it, its visually spectacular, the acting is great and the final hybrid is the scariest variant of the alien ive seen. Cant believe there are people who genuinely think Covenant is better than this
@@anthonymartensen3164 Honestly just cutting out "you bitch" would be enough for me, it's a solid movie and I loved it but man, that moment took me out of it
I find it interesting how no one can fully agree on what they liked or disliked within the film. I’ve heard people praise the first 30 minutes of the film and dislike the latter half of the film. Whereas others state the contrary. In my opinion, the areas the film succeeds in, it really succeeds in. In the areas the movie fails, it really fails.
Its oddlt akin to BVS that way, except that the vast majority of critics liked this and disliked BVS, but the reasoning for both was all over the place. I think, like BVS though, theres a core set of basic complaints and forceach person, YMMV on whether they're important to you, with the rest being subjective. For this movie that core complaint is: 1)- Bad CGI deep fake scenes/character. 90% of effects are gorgeous then your eyes are assaulted by uncanny valley. 2)- the first half is slow but tight. The second half is more squerrelly. Its faster which is good, but not all of the ideas work and the fact so many characters are unlikable undermines the ratcheted up stakes. 3)- the third act twist doesnt feel earned to many, and that, plus the "get away from her..." line, makes the film feel derivative to these people. Regardless of how bad feeling derivative actually is, for those who hate hate hate both Prometheus AND Resurrection, the contents of the twist brings a bad taste to theur mouth.
@@anthonymartensen3164The Rook stuff was unnecessary. I found a lot of the characters and dialogue insufferable. The dad jokes thing with Andy had me cringing, and not because of the jokes themselves, but it felt like a character quirk you’d find in the MCU. I also thought the facehuggers in the water and hallway scenes were cliche and didn’t do enough to be inventive and interesting. The acid blood in zero G was fantastic. There’s lots to praise. I really appreciate how the filmmakers didn’t steer away from Prometheus lore. The practical AND digital FX teams knocked it out of the park. The conception of the plot itself is to be applauded. Didn’t feel too heavily forced and felt realistic in universe.
As a long time alien fan (that rejects alien Resurrection onwards), I have zero issue with Rook. The CH was slightly off but otherwise knowing how the universe produces and uses androids it is completely within lore and reasonable that that particular model unit would be used in that situation at that time period. Where the movie WENT OFF THE RAILS was the ending with the hybrid a la Resurrection. Ffs….. why
I really enjoyed most of this film and absolutely LOVED the end. I'd have been fine if they'd ended at the life pods but no...alien baby had to happen!
This movie is the type of tone I wanted the Jurassic World movies to have. But Universal decided by the second film they wanted to appeal to braindead children and PETA instead of their core audience. Where as Alien Romulus actually feels like it’s made for fans, by fan with sincerity.
Bro I got no fucking notes this was such a great film, MAYBE there are some points where the Animation/CGI was a bit immersion breaking (namely the last jumpscare of the movie) but other than that this was a perfectly self contained story that takes what it needs from the other films, stays in its lane, and makes its own moves when its confident! IT WAS THE SHIT, loved it :)
@@lutherheggs451 It was! And of course CGI has its place in films where it completely passed your eyes. But there were absolutely moments in the film where it didn’t. The rat, the pre mentioned scene where the hybrid pops in one last time, rook as a sort of deepfake was very noticeable. But I also think that it may have been BECAUSE there was so much practical usage that it may have been a heavier contrast. Still amazing and I acknowledge the work that had to be done for the film both practical and digital, but if we had to point out faults I think that would be one of them.
As far as script I would agree but the casting and actors were sub par and couldn't believe how little charisma they had,.. The Android was the only actor that commanded the screen in a good way.. The Main gal was OK but the rest were extremely forgettable and I don't see them having long careers : (
really enjoyed this movie .. i literally had never seen any of the alien movies until 2 days ago just to watch this one in theaters. and i am a fan now. don’t care what anyone says or thinks.
Imagine if the pregnant Kay, not Rain, had unexpectedly turned out to be our "final girl," the way Ripley did in the original. Imagine if it was her standing over the last dead alien stowaway, and her wearing the Miraculous Medal around her neck earlier in the film had turned out to be a thematic hint of the triumph to come. "And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth"; "Our Lady has already crushed his head". That would have been a movie for all time. It's the kind of edifying victory that "A Quiet Place" did so well.
@@aleckermit I think they could have had the face more disfigured and melted by acid to make it more unsettling & horrific, sort of like what happened (regrettably) to Bishop in Alien 3. Let it still talk and operate (even emulate Ian Holm’s voice, I didn’t have an issue with the voice) but take advantage of the fact that the androids can endure a lot of of damage and still “live.” His whole body was already mutilated so it would have been even more creepy, gross, and uncanny if his face was barely recognizable and he’s talking through his android skull with bits of skin hanging off.
They did actually attempt an explanation for why the aliens grow so quickly, it just wasn't very good. The line "can speed or slow their metabolism at will" would cover that base, but it would not explain where the mass comes from, nor how they deal with all of that heat.
I’m really surprised to not see many people talking about the absurd pace. The editing was comically fast at points and it really didn’t align with what I’d hoped it would be after hearing that it was similar to the original Alien. Some moments that should have felt intense were shattered in the editing room. Everything did look great, but there was never a chance to actually connect with what was happening.
For me there was a few too many face huggers in that chase scene and it lurking in the water while scary was a bit offset because it didn't immediately get anyone. They gave themselves a 37 hour time window(I think) but it seemed like they were out in 2 hours. It was good though.
Re. 41:16 Guys, Fede was correct referring to From Dusk Till Dawn. That was a joint effort. One of them took care of the first half, another did the second half. You can tell the switch because the movie changes so vividly. And to remain on the actual topic, I enjoyed the movie but was intensely disappointed by the lack of actual Alien content. "Eventually you do plan to have Aliens, in your - in your Alien movie, right? Yes?" [/Ian Malcolm]
I really wanted to be positive after watching Romulus and despite some positives like the set designs and practical Alien effects being fantastic, as an actual film it just didn't work for me. It did start off well on the Jackson's Star Colony and i really wanted to see more of that world and how Rain and Andy survived in it but after they docked on the Romulus and it became a "Best of" Alien movie, it started to go downhill very fast for me. Not only were the rest of the characters very forgettable but the dialogue at times was actually embarrassing and the fact they included the "Get your hands off her" line just summed up how devoid of ideas this film actually became.
Idk, the “Get away from her, you bitch” callback threw me for a loop momentarily, but I thought about it and ultimately the hesitant delivery made it work for me. Given how chill and passive Andy was for the majority of the movie, it was as if even he was surprised by how angry he got. Like, “damn, I didn’t know I had that in me”
@@thatkidwiththehoodie If it wasn't a callback then I would agree, but it just comes across in a way that made me embarrassed for the film and made me cringe. Cut "you bitch" and I think it could have been a little too on the nose but it would have worked much better and wouldn't have bothered me
I LOVED this film. Just when you think the third act is over it gets WERID and I’m all for it. I was thinking of doing a review but so many other reviews out there already covered all the points I had and I don’t know if I have anything else to add, not sure haha
elysium hole cutter: a nice detail was how they cycled through a few different shapes being laser projected onto the vehicle before settling on the one used
The first 2/3rds are enjoyable. I groaned when the black goo was introduced (terrible plot point that needs dropping). The last third was terrible. The new creature at the end just made me laugh out loud. I’ll stick with the original 3 films.
I loved Romulus. I don’t particularly love horror movies, but the Alien series has always drawn me in. All the bits that pay homage to the series before didn’t set in until later, but it did not diminish the experience for me at all.
Movie just made me smile the whole time. A love letter to every Alien film, good and bad. Was very cool to see all the xenomorph designs and environment
Hilariously a coworker's husband watched this having never seen an alien film before and when asked what his favorite part of the movie was he said it was that one major callback line delivered by Andy, obviously unaware what heavy-handed nostalgia bait it was.
a lot of people are missing the fact that Andy is called "bitch" as an in insult several times in the first act of the film and he even verbally registers it "as an insult" . That's why he says get away from her you bitch and its not just pulled out of nowhere. there is a context to it because he was learning about insults earlier so then he uses it back at the xenomorph.
Bro the actor who played Andy was really good in the film one of the best part of the film
David Jonsson.... Good things await this young brother
He was by far my favorite part of the movie. His performance was incredible!
Yeah he was kicking ass the whole movie
No he wasn’t
Best character in the whole movie
I might be in the minority here, but I truly enjoyed this movie. Yes it has its flaws but it a good addition to the Alien lore…
I dont think youre in the minority... everyone i know and reviewers i listen to seem to have enjoyed it
It’s been a really long time since I left an alien movie and didn’t feel like I had to justify why it wasn’t a bad movie.
I thought it was incredible. On par with the originals. A modern retelling of a classic. I don’t know how people could watch it and think it wasn’t good
I also loved it. Best Alien since Aliens.
Think you're n the majority. Most people seem to love this movie.
Fun fact, this was originally going to be about space farmers on a space moon, in space. Using a bluer hue, more in line with the originals. They were going to be focusing more on the empire like corp, and the kids joining together to fight against the system. Kinda like in Star Wars. Hence the original production title: Rebel Moon. Which everyone realized sounded terrible.
Good lord
Blueish hue plums at the space farmers market😂
As has been stated before, the androids are always the best parts of these movies, Johnson killed it
While the CGI was rough, at least Ian Holm's estate gave consent (his widow in particular).
I loved the weird hybrid at the end.
Glad to hear Holms' widow consented. I was kinda put off by the posthumous use of Ian (got into it by the end), but that does make it a little less exploitive.
yea, maybe that'll be cleaned up in future editions lol
She probably wanted a new car
@@LordVolkov adding that context does help it much more, can just look past it and his scenes still move story along well
That hybrid at the end looked fucking horrible
They just should’ve made Rook’s face more messed up. He’s supposed to be this broken android that got melted with acid and yet his face is barely melted or even messed up if he was a little more broken apart, and they kept the voice. It would’ve been fine.
I just commented this somewhere else lol, I thought the same thing! It could have side-stepped the weird deepfake face thing which was distracting to me, and could have added to the gross & creepy factor of the film if they had to deal with an android with a melted face.
@@EmDub01 just spitting up white blood and falling apart. The movie’s already very body horror, some techno body horror, more than we got, would’ve been sick.
Definitely. I thought the same thing, too. There were two shots where I think Rook looked fit-for-purpose. 1: Its initial awakening (dark and angled shot with its contorted face). 2: when it crawled across the control panel to check on the status of compound Z-01 (mostly its head was downward facing and then side profiled). A half-mangled face would have been perfect.
@@0volts157 that’s what I’m saying! like it looked enough like him in the dark. Like i already could tell it was him, that actual reveal was such a spotlight reference reveal, like, “OH MY GOD IT’S THE GUY FROM THE THING!” Much like I thought with Peter Cushing’s Tarkin in Rogue One, less would’ve been better. Like when Krennick talks to him and all you could see was his reflection, that would’ve been perfect. They didn’t need to take it further than that. Same with this, they could’ve been so much more creative and subtle with it. We didn’t need to see his face like that, if we just heard his voice it would’ve been enough.
@@MitchellFace Good points. Strange how some folks can't see what's right in front of them.
pretty sure the lack of sun is the storm clouds, not the side of the planet.
I think hours of sunlight "0" is a measurement regardless of weather so it is either dark side of planet or a planet where there is just no sunlight from other bodies blocking it
@@bradleyc543 I guess terraforming could be doing the heavy lifting but if a planet was dark because it actually received no sunlight at all because it was in a shadow, it would probably be frozen solid at roughly the ambient temperature of space hundreds of degrees Celsius below zero. If it was sufficient geothermal to fight that off then you have the problem of the entire surface being basically lava. Obviously this is all fictional nonsense, but I reckon the easiest solution was it's dark because of it being cloudy, like that tragic children's short story about colonists on Venus (written when we thought the clouds on Venus were storm clouds).
I think the planet is tidally locked, and the colonized part of it is the one facing away from the sun.
Ik people are mixed on the ending but I freaking loved it. Similar to the first alien movie, the threat isn’t so much the xenomorph as it is the human’s hubris and fear. Kay took the serum out of fear for her baby, but it was the hubris of the main characters that didn’t account for what Rook meant by an “upgrade” for humanity. So the idea that even after they escaped the xenomorph, there was another looming threat I think added to the horror factor. And my favorite thing about the xenohuman hybrid is that it falls right into the uncanny valley. It looks alien but it also has enough human features that it’s not immediately clear what animalistic traits it inherited and that added a whole new level of suspense.
Not to mention they take the serum and leave without actually seeing all the footage. If they waited like 30 seconds, they'd have seen the truth. Granted the situation, but still.
It really is sad that she could have actually survived until she injected herself with that stuff. I actually thought she'd end up in cyro and the next movie would follow up on that plot point as like "Oh fuck when's it gonna happen" to build some tension. But I guess we have to end an alien movie with fighting one alien on a ship and shooting it into space out an airlock.
The Offspring was creepy as hell! I got the Alien Resurrection vibes they were laying down in the finale, but the concept was far and away superior to the Newborn from that film.
When the Offspring went back to his mother, I wondered if it was going to feel love for her (like in Resurrection). When it began to nurse the black goo from her breast, it was ghoulish! The sick grin it had on it's face as it thought it was about to kill Rain, was terrifying. I freakin' loved the movie!
Actually, if you remember, she was told by an android that serum would heal her injuries, she literally was given no other information and doesn't know why the other girl wouldn't let her take it. She didn't even see the video of it healing the rat. As far as she knows, Andy wouldn't lie to her, she thinks she's dying, it only makes sense for her to take it, baby or not.
@@zogwort1522I don’t think any of that qualifies as the “meat” of the movie. You’re just complaining about little details that don’t actually matter to the story. It doesn’t matter if the xenomorph doesn’t get sucked out into space, what matters is that there’s enough remnants on the ship for the main characters to understand what happened. It doesn’t matter if the facehugger is still alive after it impregnated her, what matters is that now she has a chesburster which serves as a chekhov’s gun to the story. I judge movies based on the effectiveness of the story, not how air tight the technicalities are.
@@darthsirrius whether it was for her baby or for herself the decision was clearly made out of fear made evident by Isabela’s performance. She’s very much the ‘Lambert’ of this movie.
I can see them doing a sequel to Romulus, with Raine getting to that dream planet of hers and find it was all a lie from the corporation to give them false hope. And that it's already overrun with aliens and hybrids.
That would be so in line with the mood of Romulus 😂 now I want this sequel lol
Yawn.
Wouldn't mind a Blade Runner / Andor type spinoff of her and her brother even without the xenos.
that is a terrible idea
Yeah, I reckon she'll get there and it'll be where David went with all the frozen colonists at the end of Covenant. I think Rain still had that container of black goo as well, don't remember it getting destroyed at the end.
Men will really listen to James and Mason talk about Alien rather than go to therapy
I certainly will
Ill do that over seeing the movie
People who write that should go to therapy. ❤
Because you try to bring up the movie and the shrink says "I haven't seen it yet no spoilers". What are you gonna talk about if not the movie, your feelings? Come on now
THIS IS THERAPY!!! 😢😅🫥🐧
Ollie the dog sounds a lot different than I expected, but nice of you two to finally let him share his opinions on movies for once.
😂😂😭
Andy shouting "Rain!" multiple times throughout the movie kinda reminded me of Finn and his catchphrase "REEEEYYYYYY!!!"
What's up with female heroes having short names lol
You nailed it! This movie gave such Rey and Finn vibes, which is a Disney space movie insert.
That’s…..racist?
I kept getting them confused!
For the character they debate if it worked for them or not, in my opinion it worked best when you see them through the computer screen. I think that was a clever way to hide any technical funkyness
I think they could have added some facial damage to Rook to disguise some of the cgi, but I agree that using the grainy displays really helped to soften the effect.
@@LordVolkovThey should have just used an entirely new character instead of treading into the uncanny valley. Or hell, they really should have used Michael Fassbender to be a different artificial human. That would actually connect Prometheus/Covenant to the whole franchise even more.
@@eyespy3001 Using Fassbender again, even for a non-David android like Walter, wouldn't jive with the timeline I suspect (Covenant is set 20ish years before Alien, but they were in space for a long time before the movie starts). Andy is already an obsolete model by the time of the Ash/Rook, who is extremely obsolete by the time of Bishop. The production androids come out at a fairly steady pace in the WeylandYutani-verse and using Ian's face firmly grounds Romulus in the specific era gap between Alien and Aliens. I suspect that the Andy model replaced the Walter, and then Ash for Andy.
Having said all that... I think using de-aging on Lance Henriksen as a prototype-Bishop that's ruthless like an Ash could have been cool and a more ethical choice than using Ian (even with his widow's consent).
@@LordVolkov Do you think the casual movie-goer knows or cares about any of that? 🤣 Aside from that, the androids production cycle or release cycle (whatever you want to call it) has never been addressed in any movie save for Bishop saying “the older models were always a bit twitchy” in Aliens.
It easily could have been Fassbender instead of some CGI hubris misfire. It’s one of those instances where just because they could, doesn’t mean they should.
@@eyespy3001but they didn't want to go with b or c. They wanted an Ash model intentionally as a misdirect. It'd be like if we saw Bishop as Wayland or something. Imo it workt really well outside of the technical aspect
I loved the Prometheus theme playing for a second
NO
I'd rather watch Prometheus again.
@@Grant-i9l ew
Prometheus had really good music
@@Grant-i9l Agreed, Prometheus is a goated movie
For me this movie fired on every cylinder it needed. It had a simple mission statement but it found ways to take ideas from the older movies and spin them. Every set piece was creative and it was just such a tight, rock solid adventure.
@@zogwort1522 plot holes exist in every film. If the plot holes do not break my suspension of disbelief, I see no issue. For example, whenever someone makes a dumb decision in a horror movie specifically, unless it’s REALLY egregious, I never hold it against them. I’ve been in low stress situations where my brain fully goes out the window, if someone is in a crazy life or death and they make a fairly boneheaded decision, who am I to judge? Again within reason. And rock solid just meaning it had a specific goal and it did it very well.
@@zogwort1522 The Alien franchise is full of weird plot holes. Don't treat them like they're new in this movie - this was still _leagues_ better than the prequels just in terms of being a movie with a good script and characters.
Don't start being a Star Wars fan about it.
@@zogwort1522 That's not what being a fan means. That's called being a consoomer. Big difference.
Being a fan just means you accept that your favourite band makes a bad album sometimes and then you move on with your life.
@@zogwort1522 You seem to have a penchant for adding a lot of implied meanings to words that do not necessarily have them, as well as straight up just making up your own definitions entirely. It's hard to try and sound smart when you don't even know what the definition of a "fan" is...
If I were you, in the future I would refrain from explaining words you don't really understand to other people
I think people that complain about this movie being a remix of other aliens miss the point.
They are gonna run these franchises into the ground one way or another. I’d rather something like this than bullshit like Covenant that ruins the lore.
Andy is the highlight of the movie and was absolutely incredibly acted.
And, as someone who doesn’t normally like horror, I really appreciated that there was only one jump scare which was unexpected - all of the others are in already tense scenarios where they would be expected.
My main complaint is that I think the setup is too long, and if I rewatch the movie I’m probably going to skip the first 30-ish minutes. Everything past that is a great non-stop experience.
Alien: Romulus feels like a love letter and an apology to the franchise as a whole. It's easily got the most relateable characters with understandable real-world motivations since Aliens, Andy is in it, and their alien hybrid was so much better than the sad, sad boy.
The nods to other movies are great, too, and if anything make the Prometheus movies a little better if only in memory. The alien hybrid looks a whole bunch like the Engineers, and that cannot be on accident.
Also I genuinely appreciate that Alvarez went aaaaaaaall in on the horrific vaginal imagery. It's like he's yes-anding Geiger.
I didn't like or care about any of the human characters in Romulus.
@@ThreadBomb Relatable doesn't mean you like them, it means you can understand their motivations as ones that another human being would have. Something that was hugely missing in the Prometheus movies, where characters just do things their characters would probably question just because the movie needs to keep happening.
And if you, in the year of our lord 2024, have trouble relating to a group of people saddled with the impossible debts of their parents by a casually cruel system and doing something stupid and desperate to try and escape... well, okay.
@@ThreadBombyou can’t read
@@lunarvvolf9606the Engineers aren’t human, merely humanoids all life descends from. They are still definitely aliens.
I’m surprised by how many people didn’t like this movie. I thought it was quite good and the best alien movie in a long time. Also the hybrid didn’t seem to land for a lot of people but it creeped me out
It’s doing well at the box office. And people are talking about it…
I think the people that didn’t like this movie are being super vocal about it for whatever reason….
I know a bunch of people who enjoyed it quite a bit actually
I thought it was a good movie! Not as good as the first two, but has its own identity in a way, and I have a feeling as time goes on this will be talked of more fondly
I think the current anger towards it is knee-jerk reaction to the things in the movie that people would prefer weren’t there and nothing more
Movie could easily end when pregnant women get into crio sleep without sudden Alien 4/Prometheus nonsense at the end.
@@ExtremeMadnessXyeah I thought it was gonna end with a kinda of "What's gonna happen next time with the chick that injected herself" as a sort of ticking time bomb. But it's an alien movie, gotta end with the main character fighting an alien and killing it out of an airlock
@@ExtremeMadnessXI wouldn’t like it as much if it ended there. I was actually scared by that hybrid thing more than pretty much anything in the whole franchise
@@ExtremeMadnessX Alien has a 4th Act. The way it is. It didn't detract that much from the movie.
I enjoyed Alien: Greatest hits.
@@Joshml98 sums it up perfectly
added it up... all the callbacks in total add up to 3 minutes of runtime. Movie is 1hr 51 mins lmao ppl tryna be different 😂
@Wojtek-nh3kb its not even just a matter of the callbacks the film borrows a lot of the same sort of vibes and story beats as the other films. Its not a bad thing it just adds to the vibe that the film doesnt really do anything new.
@Wojtek-nh3kb other than the zero gravity fight, everything in this movie was done before in a sequel/ prequel.
The los angeles building evil dead movie did the same
@Joshml98 me when the alien movie doesn't have unwanted religious undertones and posing questions of greater morality and instead is an alien movie. Plus there's way more new stuff they do. The new pulse rifle, explaining why the company has always chased the xenos, the creature at the end, as you mentioned the zero g, a young cast which is a first, and more xenos on screen then most other alien movies minus aliens.
Who the fuck is the new guy? It was a jump scare at first lmao
Your mother's new boyfriend
😂😂😂
Keep it as the duo. Weird with this new guy.
Love how staunch this comment was. So hilariously hostile
it's a voice that they take turns doing. He's not really there 😊
Incredible. So cool that James and Maso got Martin Scorcese in for this chat!
Going into this movie, I just wanted it to re-establish why the xenomorph is such a feared creature and horror icon, and for the first act or so I thought we were getting that. I was so disappointed when it quickly devolved into a homage / replay of the original quadrilogy, to the point where the xenomorph isn't even the final threat. The 'offspring' was an interesting idea and made for some effective shots and scares, but I don't feel like it belonged in this movie - or at least the xenomorphs shouldn't have been so quickly shoved out of the way to make room for it.
I don't know where people get this delusion that the alien is some sort of massive threat and takes damage like a truck. They're about as strong as tissue paper and always have been. they're not strong, they're not really that deadly unless you have no weapons. They have literally always relied on sheer numbers to overwhelm whatever they're attacking.
The only reason it wiped out the crew in Alien is because they were a bunch of hick miners with no weapons on board, they had to make those flamethrowers. They took out the space marines in Aliens because there were so many of them, it was overwhelming.
If they would have updated it with the C word, that would've been hilarious... They should have just left the line at "get away from her." Everyone made the connection without the hesitation, and then... "you bitch." That Xeno kill by Andy was pretty sick though.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. Perfect blend of Alien, Aliens, and Prometheus. I could have done without a few jump scares, but besides that everything was great. Acting/casting, props/costumes, set design, cgi/practical effects was all phenomenal.
I could have done with more! Wish it had leaned into horror a bit more, more Alien and less Aliens. But it did s good job trying to walk the line between them, even if it wasnt perfect
What's your problem with jump scares?
@@kevthepoet They are to good horror what fart jokes are to good comedy
Nah, they're fine if used correctly and not overdone
@@kevthepoet They're childish pranks.
Call me a fake fan, but I had only seen Alien when I saw this. So the "get away from her you bitch" line worked for me by itself because they set it up earlier when Andy hears one of the crew say "Bitch"
Yeah, it didn't come out of nowhere and it made sense in context. Would I have preferred if they went for something else? Sure, but people act like it ruined the movie when it's just a minor complaint at best. There's so much good this movie does
yep, same experience here. and I love how uncomfortable andy was with swearing, it was almost adorable in a way. good moment of levity. got a nice laugh out of the audience in my theatre.
@@bluegrave4376 It's fair to say that the insertion was out of place and felt forced though, consequently ruining immersion by taking the viewer out by such a dumb shoehorned reference. It's kind of insulting to the viewers intelligence imo, like everyone's supposed to point and cheer and clap, "omg I got the reference!" that type of shi
@@corocoro-x8f if there's one thing that's thematically appropriate with an Alien film its forced, rough insertions.
@@craggylotus 😂
@15:15 “Second David” is named Walter, James. He’s my favorite character in Covenant, but also one of my favorites in the entire series. Maybe one day we’ll get to find out what happened to him. 😔
I thought we did.
@@sproductionsinc We see Walter and David fighting, it cuts away mid-fight, and the next we see David has taken the place of Walter. It suggests Walter was destroyed, but that isn't confirmed.
@@philipsalama8083 Exactly. M or on.
@@philipsalama8083 Oh, does it “suggest” that? It doesn’t suggest anything, fckin’ beta. You provided no new information or analyses. One of the biggest tropes in Hollywood is of there are twins, they’re guaranteed to trade places. All Covenant ““suggests”” is that David got the jump on Walter and changed his clothes. You should really try to think before you speak/type something.
@@philipsalama8083 Exactly, it’s not confirmed. The scene combines two of Hollywood’s oldest tropes - if there are twins, they’ll trade places; and if you don’t see someone’s body, they aren’t dead. David survived, Walter can too. It’s sad because this film had the first human-android romance. Well, the beginnings of one.
the hybrid looked like mark zuckerberg and i could not stop seeing it, terrifying
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Very happy Alien Romulus improved Alien’s batting average. Didn’t know Fede worked with the Holm family to get permission etc., very happy knowing that. I initially was like oh yeah Ian passed away, but then I think the part Rook played wasn’t bad.
Stephen merchant as the xeno baby was awesome!
quickly missed but im sure Rook says that these are rapidly evolving as they are basically messed with and so faster to evolve. (but yeah business decision to keep the films pace with thin excuse to keep it going).
It does make sense within the film, all the specimens are destroyed by the end so there's no continuation of this genetic line of xenos. Plus they had the black goo, and we have seen how that works over 2 films prior. The only problem I had was how they had the black goo in the first place.
I didn't mind the more rapid pace. And the chest buster seems like a premie (it had a lot of trouble getting out 😅) that erupted from its hosts increased stress state.
UA-cam totally removed you guys from my feed and all of a sudden there's a thumbnail with "we're back?" On it so I was thinking "oh they were on hiatus" but nope went to your channel and you've definitely been uploading lol anywho welcome back 😅
I enjoyed the shit out of this movie in the IMAX format. The sound and picture were out this world!
I really appreciated all the miniature work and practical guys in suits, everything being tangible really added to the atmosphere
Yeah the fx and art team went hard. Nothing beats practical!
I didn't mind it.
Alien3 is still my jam.
The only thing I wish was clearer was what the hybrid was doing to Kat. I thought it was nursing from her because she had the goop coming from her chest, but it seemed like it drank all her fluids or something... Loved how creepy the hybrid was though.
@@LordVolkov I'm pretty sure it did drain her out. The oozing stuff was the black goo coming out of her would after it mixed with her DNA. At first it looks like she was just gonna nurse it and then they'd have the bioweapon Wayland yutani has wanted all along. Could have been an interesting idea to explore, though idk how they could pull it off and not have it seem silly.
@@afunkymonke I was almost expecting to see it nursing from her and Kat to try and defend it from Rain/Andy in some twisted motherhood moment. That would have really fit in with the twisted sexual themes of Romulus (Gieger would have been so proud of multiple horrid births 🤢).
I think maybe I just want Isabel Merced to have a bigger role 🤔 she was a bit underutilized.
@LordVolkov I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that regarding her. I know she's gonna be in the new DC film slate as I believe HawkGirl/Woman, and she's been in a few other big profile movies though not all successes like Madame Web. Maybe it was due to scheduling with other projects like I think she's in Superman Legacy, or maybe that's just what the role was always going to be and she got lucky and made a nice paycheck not having to do too much. For what she had to work with, she did good with the role and it does make sense you wouldn't have a sick pregnant woman walking all over a space station.
I had so many thoughts about what would happen to Kay and her baby. Would she be the bridge from Ridley Scott's original plan for the xenomorph to lay eggs to James Cameron's alien queen? Would her baby be "pure" Engineer? Would her baby be Newt? Would the entire pregnancy be a red herring and she would survive? Would the entire pregnancy be a red herring and she was extubated while napping on the ship by the facehugger that dove down that hole during the chase sequence? I never expected her to give birth to Mark Zuckerberg and his Y-shaped cloaca.
I've never seen any alien movie and this movie was awesome
They really got a lil gratuitous with the callbacks. I couldn't believe it when they had Rain do a goofy walk out of the elevator.
Alien: Franchise Resurrection
Andy's line on the elevator was the absolute worst one for me.
It almost ruined the film.
@@Grant-i9llet’s be honest, it did ruin the film. The movie’s incessant insistence on constantly referencing other, better movies just makes it hard to watch. The cgi Android killed the movie for me. Everything after that was just kicking its dead body. Then when the line came, I nearly cringed out of my chair. Worst movie I’ve seen in theatres since ghostbusters afterlife.
@@funkrobot9762bait
I think the Alien, Alien³ and Prequel stuff works well, it's actually the Aliens stuff that doesn't work as well.
And Aliens still stay as best sequel without all that ancient aliens/ creationism nonsense.
If you say so.
i agree, i think the movie would be better with out the rifles, and i was glad there was no queen
@@BlueMarsalis OK Ridley Scott, you are wrong.
I really want it to see the end of the Prometheus saga. Was more story oriented than just chest bursting, don’t get me wrong I like that too, but want it to know the whole story of how everything got created
My immediate take away after seeing this film was that a quick edit to cut out some of the more awkward moments would make this movie 50% better. It feels like the film was not edited down enough for the purpose of making it a theatrical length. I strongly disliked the direct quote references from Alien 1 and 2 as well as some of the plot hand holding and and moments like the one after Andy refuses to open the door to save the pregnant girl and rain says to Andy "how could you" even though Andy already explained his decision saved all their lives. Cutting out as much of Rooks appearance as possible would also go a long way. This movie did not suck but it has a lot of suck in it.
I don't think that's really hand holding. How could you and why would you are not the same question. The humans are just being human and acting on emotion instead of logic. Logically they can understand why an android would do that but emotionally they still can't accept it
Mostly agreed. The "how could you?" moment is an okay character bit: it's showing you the guy doesn't have the ability to make detached, logical decisions with regards to Kay and will take bad risks to help her.
"Andy, are you still in there?" can go. big scream after the bald lady gets chest bursted can go. a lot of the jump scare sound effects can go to make the actual jump scares land even better. maybe scuff up the characters a bit and make them look less netflix. "I'm turning off the gravity" can go too because we can read the word "gravity" on the button she presses and we just heard the joke about gravity.
this guest is pretty funny! glad to see them have someone new to bounce off of
great video so far fellas
I liked the movie. Good addition, I want to see David return in the next movie
Alien Resurrection fans have something to cheer for. Bless.
Well, Resurrection was awesome! So yeah.
You only need to see Covenant once.
Well, not even that.
Idk, I saw it as less a Greatest Hits compilation and more… a remix compilation. The ideas weren’t new, but the execution consistently was. Every call-back had a new little twist on the original. My only gripe would probably be Rook’s “you have my sympathies” callback, which did seem a little shoehorned. Hardly enough to sink the whole movie for me, though, I’m not that unreasonable lmao
EDIT: also, I really didn’t think the Ian Holm CG was that bad, I don’t know what y’all saw that I didn’t. It’s hardly Rogue One Tarkin-level quality, and tbh the jankiness really worked for the character, at least for me. Plus, like I said in a different comment, Alvarez went above and beyond to get the family’s blessing, he got an actor to stand in, made a whole-ass animatronic, and specifically spoke on how he has no interest in digitally replacing actors, not least of all because one actor costs a whole lot less than the people and resources needed to recreate Holm the way he did. Again, Grand Moff Tarkin, this was NOT. Fede put the work in.
But why even use Ian Holm's likeness? Why not create a new, interesting android played by an established (living) actor or a new up and comer? Rationalize it all you want but at the end of the day, it's still member berries.
@@joshs.1349 I mean… we did get that. We got both. And as far as member berries go, I really like how they pulled it off. It was nostalgia bait, sure, but it wasn’t cheap. Thought was put in.
His mouth was one step above Baby Geniuses.
@@waltascher honest to god, I never noticed it. I could tell it wasn’t real, but I swear, I really didn’t see the glaring flaws everyone else seemed to. And it’s not like I wasn’t looking.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie There was no depth to it at all. It might as well have been animated on paper. And I say that as someone who is generally not sensitive to CGI quality. Generally speaking, I think CGI is doing its job as long as it effectively conveys the story information it wants to tell. But this took me right out.
My god, hearing him say, "finding a crucifix on an engineer.." made me queezy. Because if they had thought of that, SOMEONE would've pitched it. Dodged a bullet there.
Can’t believe they got Mr Martin Scorsese himself on the pod 😲
I wish the next one has a new director. I like how they each add something to the franchise. Alvarez add how facehuggers detect people and that the alien can undergo crypotobiosis to survive in space. Jeuget introduced human alienhybrid and swimming aliens. Fincher alien biology on other spiecies (dog and cow). Cameron added Weyland Yutani colonizing other worlds and a queen, insect colony take on the aliens.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw elements of Alien Resurrection as well lol
Space station setpiece, aquatic horror scene, blasting on cgi xenomorphs... Resurrection is all over Romulus 😍
@@russelloats it was a wheelchair and swimming scene away from the same movie
@@LordVolkov The holes in alien skulls for sure reminded me of ARes. Elevator shaft/ladder climb. Then the finale. But that was done well, so I was ok. If AR had done such newborn, it could kind of redeem the movie.
@@swite989the newborn in Res is much creepier than this slender man looking thing. I legit couldn’t stop laughing. 😂
Alien Romulus is my Father.
Last video you guys were talking about eXistenZ, this time you're talking about one of my favorite games of all time, Flashback. This has been a blessed week.
Having seen all the films in the series, and after watching this film for me it is a SOLID 8 out of 10.
It's not perfect, but it does the job well. It fulfills the goal of being an entertaining alien movie, and it achieves that EASILY.
It looks great! it has an awesome cinematography. It should be seen on the largest screen possible with great speakers.
And although some dispute the final part, that was the part that I liked the most since it is where Álvarez's touch is most visible.
I want to see it again! Especially for THAT final part.
the next alien film will be directed by Zach Snyder and it will be call Army of Ash, literally thousands of androids vs thousands of aliens in slo mo for 6 hours, all CG
Loved it! Amazing cinematography, excellent sound design and great practical effects! Rock solid tension, excellent pacing and great action! As a gore hound my only complaint was i hoped fede would go harder on the gore but all in all i loved it. Andy was the MVP for sure such an excellent character and incredibly acted! aliens was always my favourite and I know im gonna get some shit for this but top three alien films for me are now 1 Aliens, 2 Alien Romulus, 3 Alien.
I had to reread that title far too many times for my dyslexic ass to read it right 💀
Same.
4/10 for alien Romulus - Andy the android was the biggest highlight of the movie, I can see the actor’s career becoming huge after his performance in this movie
I just thought it was awesome, mostly a thriller and with a truly horrifying final act. It was everything I expected from an Alien movie, plus if you love Alien Isolation like I do, you feel right at home. I love the characters weren’t idiots for a change, and I loved the fresh ideas like the auto-aim gun and the zero-G hallway shootout, then flying through the acid, then the elevator, the twists and turns! ahhh!!!! It’s SO GOOD
Honestly felt like I had stepped into the game in some scenes. All the sounds felt like they were directly ripped from the game (which probably got a lot of their sounds from Alien but I play Isolation at least once a year, I haven't seen Alien in AGES)
@@Maldracai Brooo I DREAM the game sometimes, looking at those sets felt like I was looking imto my actual dreams
Come to think of it, this movie had many video game-like sequences, to the point where if I looked down and noticed I was holding a controller, I wouldn't have been surprised. The sneaking-through-the-room-while-not-making-any-noise sequence- video game. The pulse rifle shootout- video game. The zero-gravity acid dodging- video game. The elevator shaft sequence- video game. Fede Alvarez DEFINITELY had video games on the brain when making this movie.
To be clear, though, it wasn't necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion. It's kind of an interesting way to create a plot, where there's always a clear goal in the action set pieces.
The whole movie feels like a video game, which is a bad thing, because it's a movie. There's not a single actually scary or tense scene which makes it a complete failure in anything but set design.
@@RenoisticCongratulations on being brain-dead
I think Ridley Scott has always been the best man for this franchise. My own ranking of the franchise so far.
1. Alien (1979)
2. Alien: Covenant (2017)
3. Prometheus (2012)
4. Alien 3 (1992)
5. Aliens (1986)
6. Alien: Romulus (2024)
7. Alien: Ressurection (1997)
I would put Romulus in fourth place and place AlienS 1986 last
holy shit this is genuinely insane, alien 3 over aliens ? you’re fucking trolling. you’re not a real human being. watch those movies again and again until you don’t say this stupid shit ever again. fucking gross.
alien 3 better than fucking aliens and romulus ? what a fucking joke man, you have the worst taste i’ve ever seen, ever, opinions can be wrong, this is wrong
Since this movie in timeline took place after isolation, I was kind of hoping for Romulus station to have a working joe walking around because the aliens don't attack them.
Working Joes are androids of WY rivals, Seegson Corp. or w/e. They could have used a David version, not David 8. For me callbacks and Rook were biggest issue, bigger than Rain being suuuuper lucky in two scenes, when things worked out well, when she should have got propper fked. Ripley was never that lucky, she was calculative and cold. Rain is cool though, while being like 1.5m tall 😄
Sorry, got carried away a bit, still under impression...
I was hoping to see a Working Joe, but yes it wouldn't have made narrative sense. Seegson as a company pretty much died with Sevastopol as far as we know.
Nobody really cares about Isolation, it has nothing to do with Alien cannon. Romulus is set around 2 years before Aliens
@@lutherheggs451Alien Isolation is probably the biggest thing to come out of the alien series apart from the first two movies
Just got back from seeing this and absolutely loved it. My first time seeing an Alien movie in the cinema and I'm really glad this was the one becuase it was beutiful. Fell in love with Alien Isolation a couple of years ago and I'm so happy they used it as such heavy inspiration for the set design. Seeing these environments and the Space station backed by the astroid belt on the big screen was such a joy.
I have very few complaints, the first and most major is the use of Ian Holm. even if you look past the moral quandries of brigning back a dead actor in the way (and that's a big if). it just didn't look very good and took me out of the film. I also felt it made some of the exposition feel a bit clunky and the film would have probably been better if trhey just cut him out entirely.
I also found all the many nostalgia moments to be far too on the nose and take me out of the film, especially the get away from her you ... line.
Last small nitpick is I kinda wish it was more gruesome. Like when that guy got covered in acid I was expecting it to eat all the wway through him and was a bit disapointed it stopped so early.
Those complaints didn't stop me from having an amazing time though. Still an excellent film in my view.
There were too many callbacks, but it was a solid action-thriller. Hope we get another installment that continues to explore the world of Aliens instead of just copying and repeating what came before.
I absolutely loved it and can't wait to see again. The callbacks to Alien and Aliens made me love it even more. I hope the franchise keeps moving in this direction (Not so much the nostalgia trip for future installments tho, that would get tiresome very fast but It worked for me with this one as I felt like this movie was a revival of the franchise)
Reminded me of the redlettermedia rogue one review. Remember when Ripley said "Get away from her you bitch"? Remember Ian Holm??
It is a shame because the rest of the movie was really enjoyable to me, the endless callbacks for the fanboys were just insufferable.
@@Storgud this movie really doesn't have a memberberries problem. I'm getting sick of hearing that. One or two callback lines and the Ash character do not make up nearly the whole film...
Redlettermedia fell off years ago.
@@anthonymartensen3164holy hell are you kidding man? I can name 3 scenes off the top of my head that are almost shot for shot. Learning how to use the pulse rifle-almost identical to aliens. The shot of Rein walking out of the elevator into the nest- Ripley did this first(it’s even got the flashing yellow light for godsake), and then when buddy gets stabbed and sees the swarm of aliens coming towards him, that’s almost an identical shot to Hicks seeing the aliens crawling through the ceiling in Aliens. You can enjoy this movie and that’s fine, but you can’t be serious in thinking there was “one or two member berries.” Common man.
@@jaworski105 fair enough.
I think they kept Rook around too long, it detracted from David Jonssons performance having another Android on screen, especially one you could instantly tell was going to be evil given our history with that model, maybe have him download Rooks knowledge (if that's possible in universe, but lets be honest Lore is often fast and loose) so he could continue Rooks role for the better of the company, then have him being damaged allow for Rain to take the chip out as she did. Not to mention another uncanny valley CGI face, those so very rarely work and often just bring me out of the film. Especially when I know the actor has passed.
There was a lot I liked about the film. We could see where it fit into the timeline neatly and the nods to Alien with the original Xenomorph was nice. Them acknowledging the Xeno was hunting them by spotting it on the camera was cool, as in the original you could often spot it lurking before it eventually attacked. The death of Bjorn from Acid was some good horror gore. And Tyler dying so brutally without even getting his hero shooting moment was a nice touch.
This felt more in kin with the originals than what we got with Covenant. Certainly felt like part of the franchise. Cailee Spaeny continues to impress. I wouldn't be against seeing her again in a future Alien role. I admit I wouldn't be against David showing back up though as Fassbender was the star of the previous two films.
Yea you kinda hit the nail on the head for all the franchise. It's just a sequence of ideas being mimicked across all subsequent films. At least there's one or two new shocks in each movie... but most of them I'm just like "oh... It's the thing from aliens... Again. Right. Oh and I remember when they did that in promethius... Heh. But now it's even more of that. That's neat, i guess?" like how many god damn times are we gonna have an android working for a evil company who want to get hold of the alien inside somebody or on a station??? It's not even a spoiler it's every alien film to date.
@@zogwort1522 Well to be fair, Ash was a new model for his time in Alien. This movie takes place a good while after that movie, so it stands to reason more people would now be familiar with it.
It's far from a plot hole, much less one of the worst in the franchise. Don't forget that about 250 years after this movie, a sample of Ripley's blood is going to yield a fully grown adult clone with queen nestled inside because that's how DNA works apparently.
@@zogwort1522 In Alien, it's a surprise that there's an android. However by Alien Isolation, which is canon and takes place five years before this movie and fifteen years after the original, androids on ships and facilities are already ubiquitous and normal. So yes, it makes perfect sense that a mass-produced science officer model that looks like Ash exists.
Isolation came out a decade ago so it's not like we haven't had time to figure that out.
@@zogwort1522 The Working Joe's were made that way because Seegson cut corners wherever they could to keep costs low and profit high. The "reassurance" was just a byproduct.
The Weyland Yutani android looks very much like a human.
@@zogwort1522 Well, Ash may have been designed to infiltrate a crew, but Rook and his design wasn't infiltrating a crew, he was part of an actual station who's specific purpose was to research the Alien corpse, they weren't likely to be using him for infiltration purposes.
And the name in reference to Bishop just adds another little link between Alien and Aliens.
I wasn't expecting the Baron Trump cameo in the movie
I can't believe they got Hugh Jackman on the podcast!!
I liked it way more than any of the other recent ones.
Really liked it, its visually spectacular, the acting is great and the final hybrid is the scariest variant of the alien ive seen.
Cant believe there are people who genuinely think Covenant is better than this
I agree with these elements being great. I want to see Romulus get an edit that removes the awkward moments and cringe.
@@aleckermit so cutting out about 10 seconds worth?
@@anthonymartensen3164 Honestly just cutting out "you bitch" would be enough for me, it's a solid movie and I loved it but man, that moment took me out of it
Scariest moments in covenant trump anything in Romulus. Worst moments of covenant are worse than anything in Romulus too though
My friend and I are fans of the series and both think that this is the third best alien movie. Really enjoyed seeing it in the theater!
I find it interesting how no one can fully agree on what they liked or disliked within the film. I’ve heard people praise the first 30 minutes of the film and dislike the latter half of the film. Whereas others state the contrary. In my opinion, the areas the film succeeds in, it really succeeds in. In the areas the movie fails, it really fails.
Its oddlt akin to BVS that way, except that the vast majority of critics liked this and disliked BVS, but the reasoning for both was all over the place.
I think, like BVS though, theres a core set of basic complaints and forceach person, YMMV on whether they're important to you, with the rest being subjective.
For this movie that core complaint is:
1)- Bad CGI deep fake scenes/character. 90% of effects are gorgeous then your eyes are assaulted by uncanny valley.
2)- the first half is slow but tight. The second half is more squerrelly. Its faster which is good, but not all of the ideas work and the fact so many characters are unlikable undermines the ratcheted up stakes.
3)- the third act twist doesnt feel earned to many, and that, plus the "get away from her..." line, makes the film feel derivative to these people.
Regardless of how bad feeling derivative actually is, for those who hate hate hate both Prometheus AND Resurrection, the contents of the twist brings a bad taste to theur mouth.
@@anthonymartensen3164The Rook stuff was unnecessary. I found a lot of the characters and dialogue insufferable. The dad jokes thing with Andy had me cringing, and not because of the jokes themselves, but it felt like a character quirk you’d find in the MCU. I also thought the facehuggers in the water and hallway scenes were cliche and didn’t do enough to be inventive and interesting. The acid blood in zero G was fantastic. There’s lots to praise. I really appreciate how the filmmakers didn’t steer away from Prometheus lore. The practical AND digital FX teams knocked it out of the park. The conception of the plot itself is to be applauded. Didn’t feel too heavily forced and felt realistic in universe.
wow what a great review dude, tard
I think it was a good plot with beautiful effects that suffered a little becuase the threat level of the aliens wasn't quite right.
Aside from the Ian Holm deepfake, this movie was awesome! The production design in particular was simply perfect.
I'm new to the franchise and binged them in chronological order and this last week. Romulus was in the top of the franchise for my enjoyment.
As a long time alien fan (that rejects alien Resurrection onwards), I have zero issue with Rook. The CH was slightly off but otherwise knowing how the universe produces and uses androids it is completely within lore and reasonable that that particular model unit would be used in that situation at that time period. Where the movie WENT OFF THE RAILS was the ending with the hybrid a la Resurrection. Ffs….. why
My dyslexic ass did not read that title right 🤣🤣 holy shit
I really enjoyed most of this film and absolutely LOVED the end. I'd have been fine if they'd ended at the life pods but no...alien baby had to happen!
Slight dyslexia and the word retread go hand in hand
This movie is the type of tone I wanted the Jurassic World movies to have. But Universal decided by the second film they wanted to appeal to braindead children and PETA instead of their core audience. Where as Alien Romulus actually feels like it’s made for fans, by fan with sincerity.
Bro I got no fucking notes this was such a great film, MAYBE there are some points where the Animation/CGI was a bit immersion breaking (namely the last jumpscare of the movie) but other than that this was a perfectly self contained story that takes what it needs from the other films, stays in its lane, and makes its own moves when its confident!
IT WAS THE SHIT, loved it :)
the movie was 90% practical.
Agreed this was just a really solid alien movie it felt like a return to form
@@lutherheggs451
It was! And of course CGI has its place in films where it completely passed your eyes. But there were absolutely moments in the film where it didn’t. The rat, the pre mentioned scene where the hybrid pops in one last time, rook as a sort of deepfake was very noticeable. But I also think that it may have been BECAUSE there was so much practical usage that it may have been a heavier contrast. Still amazing and I acknowledge the work that had to be done for the film both practical and digital, but if we had to point out faults I think that would be one of them.
@@abirdwitharms the gore wasn't really up to snuff either
Best instalment since Aliens
As far as script I would agree but the casting and actors were sub par and couldn't believe how little charisma they had,..
The Android was the only actor that commanded the screen in a good way..
The Main gal was OK but the rest were extremely forgettable and I don't see them having long careers : (
really enjoyed this movie .. i literally had never seen any of the alien movies until 2 days ago just to watch this one in theaters. and i am a fan now. don’t care what anyone says or thinks.
Imagine if the pregnant Kay, not Rain, had unexpectedly turned out to be our "final girl," the way Ripley did in the original. Imagine if it was her standing over the last dead alien stowaway, and her wearing the Miraculous Medal around her neck earlier in the film had turned out to be a thematic hint of the triumph to come.
"And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth"; "Our Lady has already crushed his head".
That would have been a movie for all time. It's the kind of edifying victory that "A Quiet Place" did so well.
The CGI cameo was horrible, but the Rain/Andy duo sold me on it. Alien films need that human connection.
Seriously, why did we need Ash's likeness? He could have just been a new actor.
@@aleckermit I think they could have had the face more disfigured and melted by acid to make it more unsettling & horrific, sort of like what happened (regrettably) to Bishop in Alien 3. Let it still talk and operate (even emulate Ian Holm’s voice, I didn’t have an issue with the voice) but take advantage of the fact that the androids can endure a lot of of damage and still “live.” His whole body was already mutilated so it would have been even more creepy, gross, and uncanny if his face was barely recognizable and he’s talking through his android skull with bits of skin hanging off.
it wasn’t a cameo… he’s a character in the movie…
More Rightulus than Rongulus?
They did actually attempt an explanation for why the aliens grow so quickly, it just wasn't very good.
The line "can speed or slow their metabolism at will" would cover that base, but it would not explain where the mass comes from, nor how they deal with all of that heat.
I’m really surprised to not see many people talking about the absurd pace. The editing was comically fast at points and it really didn’t align with what I’d hoped it would be after hearing that it was similar to the original Alien. Some moments that should have felt intense were shattered in the editing room.
Everything did look great, but there was never a chance to actually connect with what was happening.
Like which parts? I do agree the pacing was different to the original but which parts had the tension ruined by pacing and editing in ur opinion
For me there was a few too many face huggers in that chase scene and it lurking in the water while scary was a bit offset because it didn't immediately get anyone.
They gave themselves a 37 hour time window(I think) but it seemed like they were out in 2 hours.
It was good though.
@@GeorgeAndLennyGamingthe action scenes were relentless. There's just no time to breathe. It's just so exhausting
Re. 41:16 Guys, Fede was correct referring to From Dusk Till Dawn. That was a joint effort. One of them took care of the first half, another did the second half. You can tell the switch because the movie changes so vividly.
And to remain on the actual topic, I enjoyed the movie but was intensely disappointed by the lack of actual Alien content. "Eventually you do plan to have Aliens, in your - in your Alien movie, right? Yes?" [/Ian Malcolm]
I really wanted to be positive after watching Romulus and despite some positives like the set designs and practical Alien effects being fantastic, as an actual film it just didn't work for me. It did start off well on the Jackson's Star Colony and i really wanted to see more of that world and how Rain and Andy survived in it but after they docked on the Romulus and it became a "Best of" Alien movie, it started to go downhill very fast for me. Not only were the rest of the characters very forgettable but the dialogue at times was actually embarrassing and the fact they included the "Get your hands off her" line just summed up how devoid of ideas this film actually became.
Idk, the “Get away from her, you bitch” callback threw me for a loop momentarily, but I thought about it and ultimately the hesitant delivery made it work for me. Given how chill and passive Andy was for the majority of the movie, it was as if even he was surprised by how angry he got. Like, “damn, I didn’t know I had that in me”
@@thatkidwiththehoodieno, it was stupid
Well said.
@@jonathanradnidge3368 each to their own.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie If it wasn't a callback then I would agree, but it just comes across in a way that made me embarrassed for the film and made me cringe. Cut "you bitch" and I think it could have been a little too on the nose but it would have worked much better and wouldn't have bothered me
I LOVED this film. Just when you think the third act is over it gets WERID and I’m all for it.
I was thinking of doing a review but so many other reviews out there already covered all the points I had and I don’t know if I have anything else to add, not sure haha
I am once again on my knees, begging for the fifth element caravan of garbage!!!
No
elysium hole cutter: a nice detail was how they cycled through a few different shapes being laser projected onto the vehicle before settling on the one used
The first 2/3rds are enjoyable. I groaned when the black goo was introduced (terrible plot point that needs dropping). The last third was terrible. The new creature at the end just made me laugh out loud. I’ll stick with the original 3 films.
I loved Romulus. I don’t particularly love horror movies, but the Alien series has always drawn me in. All the bits that pay homage to the series before didn’t set in until later, but it did not diminish the experience for me at all.
Movie just made me smile the whole time. A love letter to every Alien film, good and bad. Was very cool to see all the xenomorph designs and environment
Hilariously a coworker's husband watched this having never seen an alien film before and when asked what his favorite part of the movie was he said it was that one major callback line delivered by Andy, obviously unaware what heavy-handed nostalgia bait it was.
Get away from her you COW!
Alien film with less than 5 minutes of a xenomorph. Yup, Ridley Scott was definitely involved with this
And like 50 minutes of facehuggers!
Honestly this is just kinda dont breath in space, but thats exactly what this needed to be, plus i love derelict abandoned space atations
It really feels like “The Force Awakens” of the alien franchise. In all of the good and bad ways.
a lot of people are missing the fact that Andy is called "bitch" as an in insult several times in the first act of the film and he even verbally registers it "as an insult" . That's why he says get away from her you bitch and its not just pulled out of nowhere. there is a context to it because he was learning about insults earlier so then he uses it back at the xenomorph.
It is completely unnecessary.