When I play Genshin on my phone, it feels like a miracle and that I'm playing a PC game on a small device. When I play ToF on my pc, it feels like I'm playing a phone game on an emulator.
I mean, it is supposed to be optimized for mobile game. Both games technically are supposed to be for mobile except one is clearly superior in the graphic aspect
“I believe the voice director told them to speak as if they’re dead inside” Meanwhile, a honkai star rail mob is going for the best voice actor of the year award.
For me it's the fact that i can't exactly feels immersed/connected to the game/characters. In game like AK, PGR, GI, HI you kinda feels the connection to the characters and the world building. Even if you say "It's because ToF is mmo so it's about gameplay bla bla bla" Let's be real, it doesn't really feels a lot like MMO, and i actually feels immersed back when i played Dragon Nest
To be fair it's also because you know what to expect ... If this was your first mmo you would probably feel that same immersion lel ... Then again leaving ToF for any other mmo would probably make those mmos feel amazing kek
…did the first reply just justified “this game is only shit because you compared it to other mmo games.” That’s when you know it’s such a bad mmo that a single comparison can just kill it lmfao. “tO bE fAiR, 20/100 is only bad if you look at all other scores objectively.” That’s a lot of copium to come up with such a poor excuse for shitty game in their own genre.
Don't remind me of Dragon Nest. Despite all of its current flaws, I am still going to go out and say that the combat of Dragon Nest is UNRIVALED to date. Not saying it's the best combat, but there's nothing like Dragon Nest's combat let alone a better alternative. Anyway, I started dropping off Dragon Nest when they started using crappy machine translations so I could no longer follow the story and characters. Not to mention using unique NPC models for generic NPCS. Basically I could no longer immerse myself in the story or characters and therefore, stopped caring about it. I mean really, Gertaint or Gerrant. Karakule or Kasarana. Nexon is lots of things, but at least they had better naming convention.
@@tryfergoodra552 I play in Japanese (since its my native language), but its pretty bad there too... better than the English VAs, but still some bad direction. Not to mention voices being cut off due to cutscenes ending faster than the recorded voices.
As you get closer to the end the main quest (for now), your character will also stop talking and let’s not talk about Mia she’s such a side character, even Frank (Franz?) is a more important character
Its generic story that seems like a rip off of many others... have you seen other games stories? like arknights, PGR, fgo, honkai, even comparing to mmos like lost ark, wow, ffxiv, etc. like i guess if its ur first game u might believe its a good story but after watching some other games or even animes this feels just like meh and boring.
@JeLomun I agree that you do get more SSRs compared to 5 stars atleast for the standard banner. I personally still love Genshin pretty much as when I first started and I enjoy that they still release 4 star characters. Tower of Fantasy is definitely a good game ignoring all the plagiarism they are caught up in.
Yeahh. I've never seen someone use SR in their team when they have at least 3 SSR. I've seen some using pepper but that's probably cause they don't have an SSR healer.
I played it for an ok chunk of time when it released, but overall Genshin still wins out for me. I did enjoy it, and would like to go back and play, but with classes starting again I don't have the extra free time to give it anymore. I am interested to see what all has changed by the time I play again though; that ought to be cool!
3.0 is probably the best genshin update so far lol, new region and dendro finally being added with other stuff added. take your time with it cuz its story will be long
I liked ToF for its own strong sides, and even didn't touch Sumeru in Genshin for 1-2 weeks, but paradox - ToF made me appreciate and love Genshin more :D I finally went to Sumeru and the amount of love spent on locations, music, characters (who really gets you attached to them) made me feel such an unexpected warm feeling towards the game
My only problem is that we level up too fast and for casual players like myself, instead of it feeling rewarding, i somehow feel weaker than stronger as enemies become stronger because while my level may be high, my equipment and suppressors and stuff can't keep up.
@@Tissuestrash Because the enemies in the overworld scale according to your level, not your CS. However, you could always grind in the ruins and dungeons as you can choose which difficulty you want to tackle based on level and CS requirement.
The only thing that i hate about this game was the AI on the enemy, it's so bad especially when you do bygone phantasm sometimes the enemy was just stand still and not moving at all its really hard for me to group them
I always got spooked by Samir until she became 5 star. Her 5 star skill is convenient against scattered enemies as Samir's special skill pull the enemies together.
So it wasn’t just my brain being loyal to genshin, this game is actually badly optimized. But still I love this game got mmo open world and vehicle to mess around with which. And the core game play got much more potential than genshin. Edit: Here’s a HEV suit, stay safe in the comment section
yea, its not about bein loyal, genshin is objectively better on every possible way (if you don't prefer to play with 3634634432 people and hackers lol) and it came out 2 years earlier, that should say a lot already.
There are many red flags, main one being the current event. But I’m on hopium that the game can get better. However, if in the future it looks like the game isn’t improving where it needs to, then I’ll drop it. Also, I’m gonna stream Genshin 3.0 today at 11:15pm est. It’ll be my first time playing since launch, so I’m curious to see how it’ll be. And then imma delete it after the stream.
Idk I've heard that the 2.0 is the game changer. Honestly I still give it a chance. From the others 3 big gacha games I played (Honkai impact, Genshin impact and PGR) the only game that had a good start was genshin while both Honkai and PGR were bare bones gameplay and story vise at the start. So there is still a window for improving in this game.
,,this game is shit and i don't see any improvement" ,,HeY iM StREaMiNg GeNsHiN" and whole video can be thrown to trash Fucking sad to watch how you say that you are not a genshin fan, but you will stream it And how your first argument about the game being bad is the queue times that were 1 min fucking long ape
Tbh even if the game got better I still won't go back to it. It just...didn't feel fun for me. Sure the combat looks cool and all but that's it. After playing for a week or so I got so burnt out I don't touch it anymore. Nothing too exciting for the story and exlploration too.
Since you mentioned ToFs combat system vs Genshin, I guess I'll give my long ass 2 cents on the topic. I have to admit, I didn't play ToF for very long, between the time gate, extreme lag and overall unpolished feeling present in every part of the game, I really didn't have any fun with it, but one thing I knew for sure is that Genshin had a much better combat system. I personally think the Elemental System is one of the best designed mechanics in Genshin, maybe even the best. It's simple at it's surface, but has a world of depth if you engage with the theorycrafting, and creates a level of synergy way beyond just "Gives your party an atk buff" or "Increases damage on this specific element". Take the Swirl reaction for example: at the surface, swirl just spreads the element applied on an enemy to nearby enemies, but on a deeper level, swirl is not only a very good source of damage in AoE, but also can trigger reactions off itself, like Overloads, Vaporizes or more recently, Quicken and Hyperbloom/Burgeon, and if you go even deeper than that, you can get swirl off things you didn't even know held an aura, like guoba swirls. But on ToF, I saw nothing like that, at least not from the SSRs I got at the start, those being Nemesis and Shiro, had good synergies between each other. Nemesis had her kit, healing, pillar thing, and that was it, and Shiro just threw stuff against enemies, neither felt like they interacted in any way. Sure, maybe those units just didn't have any synergy but I was unlucky to get both of them together, however, at least in Genshin, if you get random units, they will have some level of synergy, no matter what. And also on the topic of rotations in Genshin just being a keyboard pressing macro on repeat, I would disagree. Some comps sure have that sort of playstyle, 15s Morgana rotations are the prime example, but you also have complicated rotations that require a deeper understanding of game mechanics to perfom the best it can, like Kazuha double swirls in International or just Soup teams in general. Also also, Genshins rarity system works way better than in ToF; 4* in Genshin are very much impactful, and some, if not most of the top 5 units in the game are 4*, but in ToF, using an SR weapon Vs an SSR not only felt horrible, but the damage didn't even compare. edit: Also I forgor to mention the Artifacts and Weapons in Genshin give even more depth to comps, since many units have multiple viable options depending on the team you're using
Genshin’s combat system is one of the best part of the game imo. It’s not hard to pick up, but it can get surprisingly in-depth if you learn about it more. You can even go Elemental Razor, or other weird comps if you know the mechanics. I like the idea of artifacts like thundering fury, or instructor sets for example. i just don’t like how random it is, but it’s not a deal breaker.
Genshin 4 stars being too OP was unintentional on the Dev's part, I am pretty sure of it, considering how they are trying to walk it all back with newer 4 stars kits being almost unusable in the abyss.
@@RKNancy I’m pretty sure Genshin can be f2p because of the powerful 4 star not only that you can beat the game without using gacha you can see some content creators do some stuff like that so it’s pretty balance
When I saw my Ice attacks not freezing the water I understood Genshin had better gameplay lol the whole elemental reactions to environment and enemies is great.
I dissagree on this game having better gameplay than genshin, it's not even close. Yeah a lot of genshin is "skill spamming" but if you want involvment there are insane rotations you can learn, oh and cause he brought up Punishing, that game's gameplay felt waaay better than ToF's in my humble opinion, I'd say Punishing probably had the best gameplay in any Gacha action games.
True but Genshin is extremely easy, so learning different rotations isn't incentivized as much as it should be. This is a game with a 10 year plan and we haven't even reached a quarter of the journey yet so I'm definitely expecting that to change, since they have to think about the players who will start playing in the middle or at the end of their development plan.
2 Gacha games that I liked in terms of combat are definietly PGR and Honkai, both are hack and slash, and both are able to achieve good combat system without being too complicated with their controls. PGR only have like movement analog, attack, dodge/evade, ultimate ability, character switch and the orbs, but the game still alowed you to do some complex combo. Almost the same with Honkai where the game only have movement analog, attack, weapon ability, evade, ultimate, and character switch and just like PGR you can still do more complex combo (looking at you Fu Hua battlesuits and their fighting game inspired combo mechanics).
My crash too on some points in the game where it can't render the textures properly, but I really can't complain when I am playing ToF which requires 8gb ram as minimum, on a 6gb at max phone. . . Anyways, mine only crashed when I was exploring. It doesn't crash in a large boss run for some reason.
Definitely agree its hard to love, I personally couldn't throw my lot in with it as I quite literally got the SSR selector picked my character and immediately uninstalled. Didn't do it out of any malice but just looking back on how much I had to do to get the selector on top of how much I'd have to do to get through in order to be where I want to just killed my interest. Also feel it didn't help that I played exclusively on my phone and after awhile I realized the game's UI gets cumbersome for a phone making it tedious to navigate. All in all I'll stick to PGR
@@jcp5302 In my case, i've been playing FGO for 5 years so, saving for characters in Genshin is really easy in comparison, i can do 75 rolls for pity every 1.5 months or less...is really easy to save in Genshin... But tbh i'm playing Genshin for the story and the exploration
@@jcp5302 Genshin has a myriad of unaddressed issues that disgust me to no end (artifacts, event handling, endgame content, weapon banner, lack of coop options, etc) but the difference is I at least had the patience for Genshin. Gacha games aren't something I'm a stranger to and while I have my issues with them I ultimately don't let them decide my overall enjoyment of the games themselves(plus while I'm not a whale in most gacha games I am willing to spend when something I genuinely want comes along). To me, Genshin has far more to offer in terms of a new player experience since the world calls to you to experience it, I couldn't get that feeling when playing ToF, I didn't care to learn more about any of the locations I visited, to listen to what NPC's said at all, or just see more of the world not because I thought it was badly designed or anything but because I just didn't care. Now he mentioned that the writing in the character stories wasn't too bad and gripped him but when I got to the point where I did a character story wasn't even in my field of fleeting interest. Jaded as my opinion of Genshin is at this point (AR59 having played since October of the first year) even though I have a lot of negativity pent up for the game at this point I can still play a game that frustrates me with the occasional time it can make me happy/excited, I can't play a game that I lack interest in which unfortunately ToF is.
The pacing of the story in the beginning was too fast that I had to stop playing it momentarily to take it in. You know that skeleton chair meme with the flashing red eyes? That was me.
Two things that I like better in ToF than in Genshin: 1. No stamina while running so I can get to things FASTER without relying on skills,Vehicles like goddamn this saved hundreds of hours of travelling. Map is huge. Though the game geometry fucks it over. Can't even go over a small stone without jumping. 2. At least the equipment is almost the same all around. Unlike in genshin where you have three fucking layers of RNG where a single wrong stat can ruin the entire equipment. Hundreds of hours of gameplay and almost 80% of that is running dungeons for equipment, upgrading said equipment, crying because the equipment gave health instead of crit as a sub-stat and now it's trash, re-run again for equipment, rinse and repeat until you just lower your standards because you're out of resin.
well.. in truth, they gave the main character, a totally useless role.. What are they there for? we don't know.. If you were a fly, the story would unfold exactly in the same way O_o A brother tryin to save his sister, who try to save his brother, who try to save his sister.. rinse and repeat lol The side stories look better than the main one XD
The main character make me feel the twins from Genshin Impact are more worth to follow their story than this problem solving boi (or girl) that falls in love with Shirli.
@@aoffydosy1530 well, as i said in other comments.. the main char in this game, is not needed for the story at all for now.. hopefully they give him/her some meaning and some deeper plot, because as it is, its a troll, the new patch island is laughable.. except for the sorry housing system which gives ZERO change for customization.. the island itself is empty no quest, just sadness XD
@@aoffydosy1530 bruh I don’t get how the you can design you’re own mc when they have a twin they supposed to look like each other not the other way around
Reasons why Genshin Impact is better than Tower of Fantasy: Genshin Impact: has Port Ormos musics Tower of Fantasy: doesn't have Port Ormos musics (No I don't want to use serious arguments.)
Thank you for this video. It is so well-written and paced. I love the jokes in between and the examples you’ve brought up. Before ToF even came out globally, I was already hesitant to play it. It was one controversy after another and the CN playerbase dropped it way before global servers went live. But, my friends tried it out and they seemed to have fun despite the bugs so I thought I would give it a few months before starting. That’s what I did with genshin, which I still play today. I like games that are very casual, something I can boot up after a long busy week and have fun. I also like storylines and worldbuilding in games. My friend streams and he played ToF and the story didn’t hook me in. That was already a major downside for me. And the gacha feels a bit unsatisfying to me since you can use your mc and just equip the weapon from the character that you got to them. Not to mention, the gacha characters were not eye candy material to me personally. The combat tho do look flashier and more dynamic than genshin’s, so that’s one thing I can really praise about the game. It’s been out for some time now. My friends who played and enjoyed it for two weeks before dropping it. I’ll most probably not going to play it but I still appreciate this video because I see almost nobody talking about it now. It is like a closure on what happened on ToF global.
Honestly, as someone who loves Animation, the thing irks me the most is the animation. I cringed everytime the character face moved to talk. They never shows emotion. I still remember the yellow haired girl Scream because she gets attacked but her face are just😃 the whole time it creeps me out
The devs seem to be listening to the player base so I hope that things go well for this game in the future cause it has the potential to be really good.
About copy-pasting. When I was wandering around the map and exploring the Ruins, I repeatedly got the feeling that most of the environment looks like Borderlands. 3rd game mostly inspired the ruins and bandits. Normal map with it's lockers and chests with green light on them, enemy design, structure design, everything looks like Borderlands...
The biggest problem I have with this game, well two but one is related to the multiplayer aspect, is the cluncky evasion mechanic. I'm mainly a Honkai player and I used to play PGR when it launched, but stopped because storage was not enough on my old phone and decided to go with the one I dedicated more time to. The evasion mechanic in ToF is so clunky I don't bother with it most of the times, like 7 out of 10 times it just doesn't register. If I'm in a middle of an attack the character won't dodge even tho I'm bashing the Shift button like crazy when the red flash appears and, like you described it, the flash is inconsistent; some enemies have it before starting an attack and you have some room to dodge, some have it right before they attack and the window of time you have to dodge it is just too small. The other problem is that there are some chests on the maps that are multiplayer locked, where you need to be with 2 or 3 people to unlock it. As a mostly solitary player... well I guess you can see the problem there. Also seems that bosses are also mainly designed around the mutiplayer aspect. And here's a third problem, the menus, I started playing two weeks ago or so. It took me until yesterday and at level 45 to figure out where the shop menu is. Like I thought Honkai's menus were a jumbled mess, but ToF's menus are on another level of jumbled mess. Also the sheer ammount of content they bombard you with early game, the immense ammount of currencies and upgrade materials. And the speed of leveling up. Took me 2 weeks to get to 45-46, took me a year and a half in honkai to get to 80, and another year to get to 88. I don't have a problem with the fact that you level up really fast, I have a problem that enemies also level up really fast, and because I refuse to join in the coop shit where I have 2 other players with the internet connection of a N64 , I have underleveled weapons, yay.
hahah well this game has a lot of problems .. but honestly, its a good filler between genshin patches, so i don't take it seriously, and just play it when i have nothing better to do. Its a bit sad tho cause i started day one, i wasn't able to do this on genshin, and here i did it, and still, i didn't got taken by how good it looks or how cool the combat feel , like i did in egnshin. Aside all the problems you listen, the combat system is very repetitive because there is nothing special about it, just mash buttons , the order doesn't matter , change weapons based on the enemies, and the fact that they are 3 help a bit, but still too much special effects too many enemies, its way too confusing, and as you said, the UI is total garbage, yo said lvl 45, i have to reach like 58 to be able to understand where all the options were, where to click etc. I don't hate the game, but sure i don't love it either.
this game is just not for you i think, it's designed to play with other people and for solo player is kinda meh, can't even imagine how to play it without others i play honkai and genshin too and it depends on my mood if i want a great story and combat i'll go to honkai if i want to explore and amazing open world I'll go to genshin if i want to have fun with friends I'll play tof every game has different strong side in the core design and some people may like one and find annoying another
@@Yuong0 And when you don't have friends with interest in the game? Who should I play with? Random poeple with ping spikes as jagged as saw teeth or with a language barrier between us? The problem is not that it's mmo. The problem is that it forces multiplayer play through locked chests and bosses. I play Genshin co-op. I don't mind it. But sometimes I just can't play co-op since I play late at night. Having the option to both farm co-op and solo is better overall to the player experience. Also after taking a look at ToF's global chat, I'll stay far away from that shitshow community. Like Snowrunner. The game is overal better co-op, but you still can complete the game solo... Well except for phase 7, but we don't talk about that. I have a friend who I play that game with, but he's a transport driver across Europe. So should I postpone playing the game if he's away? Also, for me, the multiplayer aspect is not a major problem with tof, the clunkiness of the game is and, like the comment above yours said, the repetitive button mashing of a combat with a hit or miss evasion system.
Totally agreed. Every time I complained about the dodging system everyone defendend the game spamming "skill issue, skill issue, skill issue". The game is objectively rushed and bad designed, combat clunky, no ost, souless game, open world very cheap. Can't compete with honkai or pgr.
My problem with this game is the Dev This game is really fun to play, it’s a good game but it’s always that shitty part of Dev that keeps me from fully love this game like copying from other games( but what they copied isn’t even necessary) and tons of bug (fun and bad)
Ive been loving ToF tbh and they keep updating the game. (looks weekly so far). So far been liking the story but thats just me. The time gating hasnt bothered me since by the time the next story section is open those chests are open. I can agree however the voiced parts are a bit off with them stopping sometimes. There is also the thing that many say 2.0 is the 'true release' of the game so im excited to see what changes come in 2.0 (great video btw)
Yeah, i was actually invested in the story by the time it reached Navia and Dr. Claire. Though it can be improved in the story telling aspect, I can say it has improved bit by bit since the start.
Really the story is good? The lore might be good. But the story telling is horrible in my exeprience. The voice acting is awkward and the Scenes are so weird. I havent been interested on the story at all. And story is the only thing that appeals me to move on in this game. Im fine grinding. But its worthless to grind when the story is this bad.
@@yuusha2150 10 bucks it's bad, if it's that good- even for a little, the amount of fan arts will bloom, for example PSO2, the story wasn't that good but at least it's not bad, and therefore appreciation comics and fan arts from player base to capture such memorable moments... but ToF? nah.. it's like tryin to search oasis in the middle of desert lol
@@yuusha2150 Japanese voice acting was really good tho but yea the story feels rushed. And the worst thing is it actually has a lot of potential that was just really poorly executed.
I hate how the bosses are just ridiculously tanky and they can 2 shot you. This by itself is annoying, but combined with shitty dodge timings makes it even worse. Some bosses just rarely let you hit them like the frost dragon and this bitch in hard frontier clash who keeps flying around. Then they nerfed my boy crow 😭
I couldn’t get through the start of that game, I got Shiro (SSR) so I wanted to stay longer but I just found myself dreading ACTUALLY playing the next quest. It felt dull to me, I definitely enjoy Genshin more
hearing sad persona 3 music for some reason during the video caused me actual pain. but anyways thank u for saying what we've all been thinking lmaooo. it was straight up ripping off other games and people were calling us "mad genshin fans" for pointing out the obvious
I'm still enjoying ToF a lot because of the battle system and being able to play with my friends. But my biggest issues with it are: 1. The constant element resistances. You spend so much time and resources on a main team only for it to do barely any dmg. I think this is the only game I've played where I feel weaker instead of stronger as we progress. It's forcing you to build different elemental teams, while requiring a ridiculous amount of materials to level weapons. It's hard as a f2p. 2. Most of the characters are dead inside, they have zero personality, and the voice acting is abysmal. I can't connect with any of them. 3. p2w events. This is a just a huge slap in the face to f2p and low spenders, and one of the reasons I refuse to give them any money. 4. Apparently they can nerf characters after they have been released, which is a BIG no-no for gachas, another reason I will not give them my money. 5. Flying bosses. Why. Just why. Not everyone has built range weapons..
True the flying boss is pain in the ass not to the mention the frog boss after it floods the fucking map and if you fuxk up on the water board you have to wait like 2 minutes for it to refresh
17:34 the fact that the innocent players that got banned got compensation of the same amount of summons as genshin gave out to their community for anniversary is crazy.
Haven't played this game, but from what you've shown and described, the combat seems like it's just Honkai basically. I know you mentioned punishing grey raven, but that's known as a honkai-like in cn as well.
@@toukoenriaze9870 I’m pretty sure that works with honkai mid air attack plus they have alot what I mean alot of different type of attack ofc when it comes to teams and stuff I play both Genshin and honkai and for me both are balance have a good combat and stunning story it’s not really an excuse to make the story so bad even if tof is mmorpg
Great review, really sums up its issues and good points. On a slightly unrelated note, you jumping the gun and quitting PGR early puts a tear in my eye although honestly it's not too late to come back and enjoy the game imo
@@winters_angel yes we have Coop althought it's not exactly the main focus for the game. You could think of it as Boss Hunts with your buddies during specific timeslots when it's open throughout the day.
It would have been nice to see ToF come out better to be a competitor to Genshin, but its clear they have a lot of work to do to even begin considering themselves a competitor, let alone a Genshin killer. Even if the bugs, hackers and general optimisation of the game was solved. It would then need to try rival Genshin in terms of Combat, lore and player's immersion to the game. Most players of ToF seem to enjoy the fact that its broken, such as the big model glitches. (This happened to Fallout 76 as well and that didnt end up pretty...)
i loooove the fact that the combat somewhat feels more dynamic compared to some of the years frontrunner games but dang other than that everything else just leaves sooo much to be desired.
I want to really love this game since the fighting is fun and the rewards are generous, but I fear my laptop will implode with the amount of crashing and seizure inducing bugs that I get on a very regular basis. Crashing can happen anywhere from playing cutscenes to even opening any sort of menu; the seizure bug (as I like to call it) is just that, it flashes your screen with countless saturated colors without warning and the only way to get rid of it is either opening a menu (if it doesnt crash) or just exiting the game. I havent even touched my issue with choppy framerates and the inavility to play with other people (if I encounter more than one person on combat it just crashes), this has a high chance to be an issue with my laptop but it runs just fine in genshin (both are played in the lowest settings). The reason I pre registered and downloaded tof was because I grew tired of the constant grind genshin has you do and the less than dirt rewards it gives you (Im f2p on both games). Been keeping my eye on zenless zone zero (hoyoverse new soon to be released game) but I dont have any expectations on it. Im torn between waiting until tof is stable enough and risking being more heavy for my laptop, or keep playing and actually having fun but with the constant crashes, bugs, and low framerate.
I would love to play it, heck I even made an account to play it on the first day of its release. I'm also a 1st day player in genshin. But the problem is the release date of ToF is bad timing... at least for me, because classes will literally start next week after the ToF's release. I was able to play it for a week and it's fun. Sadly had to delete it and stop playing cuz I'm getting busier as genshin is more important to me since I'm a veteran player. Genshin's release is perfect because, first, there are no classes due to the pandemic, second, because of the pandemic, and third, people are bored af from staying at home for 2 years. It's just a perfect time for a game to release to give people something to play with.
Nice review. Most people are just crapping on it because of the Chinese controversy and the comparison to Genshin. Hoping for another one for Limbus Company.
good video! I agree with all the points, except for me, I ended up quitting. The bad points were just too much for me. Despite enjoying the traversal and combat more than Genshin. Genshin just felt more polished, with each region being distinctly different both visually and culturally than the last. The story is also much better. Genshin also trying hard to not power creep. But damn, I wish they were as generous with their pulls as Tower of Fantasy. That felt really nice.
Is it just me or does anyone find ToF's fantasia system in combat eerily similar to one of the Honkai mechanics: a timed dodge in combat (also including a practically identical red light flash thingie) that if executed sucessfully can give various buffs to characters, including a "slowing down time" buff. Obviously the two arent identical but, playing ToF myself and watching you explain the mechanics here, I couldn't help but recognise the feature...
To be fair i was told that the 2.0 version improves a lot (aside from the Battle Royale mode but we don't talk about that), the story got better somehow, there are lot of things to do in the game and as for the powercreep yeah that is sadly true but i guess if you don't do pvp (which is always bad in gacha games), you're okay maybe? Though i admit it's kind of shitty to make any other weapon/simulacra in this game that is not limited/ssr are pretty much worthless in the end game.
the balancing is actually better in global than it is in CN. The developers realised for the sake of longevity for the game they decided to hard nerf the newer characters. Frigg and Claudia got nerfed pretty hard in comparison to their CN release. From what I've heard they're going to keep doing this to keep the actual balancing in check.
Standard character can compete with limited if u have their dupes, which is easy to obtain if you at least do the daily bounty. 5 star crow carried me with my pathetic purple gear even though his jet tech is fixed.
@@rohidzaidannasution6828 yeah its only because they decided to balance global because rn CN is fucking powercrept asf. Hence why there was some drama about Claudia being nerfed on global release (Frigg too). They're trying to make everything a bit more balanced which is good
Honestly, I found this game more enternaining than other gacha games I have played so far. Because of its multiplayer aspect. The story is meh, but the side stories are actually interesting and could be fleshed out more. Bugs are okay to me since I've gotten used to them by playing games like tf2 and stuff like that. Honestly this game couldve been better received if they had better marketing and better publishers.
About animations and the stuttering; in unreal, blender, unity etc, there is literally a built in system that you can add to ANY animation transition to interpolate between the two animation states so the fact that these characters stutter like this is nothing short of lazy. The option to do this is literally right in with setting the animations to be open or loop back so its impossible to say "Oh, we just didn't have access to it". Its like if someone crashed a car and gave the excuse that they weren't aware of the brakes- its literally right there. Laziness.
Lemme straight up the part of the : Timed supply pods, plants, lava.... The thing about the certain supply pods have a timer is because = so you dont RUSH from day 1, like in 1 day you harvest everythinigg thats on the world, so thats why the timer on the supply pods or even in the plants where you can get nucleus are timed, it kinda keeps you in check with the the Rush B that i just mentioned. the same goes for the lava, it doesnt have timer, (unlike the plant does) but they are timed, just need to try check day by day...for me thats kind of good strategy on slowing the players pace, unlike like maybe " Hey i just got every single thing i got in the map, and now idk what to do"...so yeah still a good thing to be timed.
For me, I hated looking at loading screens because that's when it frequently crashes or going BSOD. I can't even log in or pull in a gacha cuz once again, it crashes. I worry following the support instructions given to me probably bricking my laptop in the process cuz of course im not an expert to fixing PC.
I've been playing the f out of this game I'm f2p and got all characters (I know my luck is wild) I listened to the first 5 mins of the story and I'm very thankful that....there's a skip button lmao I never cared about stories in mmos but I do understand it's an important part of the game , to me I'm enjoying the group pve the most getting 20 ppl on a world boss run is so fun and doing joint operations with friends is amazing so yea Imma keep playing as long as there's something to do and as for the time gating it never annoyed me as I don't play that long per day tho it's pretty bad obviously so yea I would give this game objectively a 6/10 at best but for some reason I'm playing like it's an 8/10
i was able to begin one of the personal quests that was apparently in the ice area way north-east and unlock a teleport there. the suppressor thing didn’t go fast enough that i couldn’t eat in time to not die, so i simply made my way backwards to the south-west of the map by teleporting away as soon as i unlocked a new teleport. very glad for that bug, because i would have been very impatient without it (regardless, i dropped it as soon as genshin updated for lack of room)
What made the game a big no for me is the MMO aspect 😂 I've played a lot of MMOs and i always play them differently with the single player games... But, it's completely impossible for me to immerse myself if theres tons of players in the background... Also, i value my visual silence... I want to be the only Character in some backgrounds to fully immerse myself. It's a selfish and loner way of playing a game, but that's what made me play genshin in the first place...
This is honestly the only good informative TOF video that I watched on YT. Like every other content creator that I've watched even with guides are so fkn indirect, it's like watching a bad reaction video with a ppt presentation of an elementary student. This is actually really coherent with actual funny remarks presented well and systematically.
this puts everything i have been wanting to say but cant put into words in one video. thank you for clearly articulating all my gripes and love for this game because i have almost the exact same opinion about it
id love to talk about a bug i had and never heard or read of, i climbed a tree next to the starting city at the litteral beginning of the game and glitched through it and came out somewhere on the second place where u were definetly not supposed to be, since im a good guy i after running around a bit i decided to tp back xD i regretted it to not have activated a teleporter there (since i didnt knew how they looked or how to find them)
as much as I love this game, the voice acting in this game fell flat on me it doesn't have the emotion in it and sometimes they're speaking slower than the cutscene or they overlap with other character's line but I still love the game for it's gameplay and the multiple gamemode it has also great video, I like how you presented your point of view
I was surprised to see so many people talking about bugs, I didn’t have any issue with lag, glitches, or crashing. I also never ran into any time gates and had ridiculous gacha luck (two SSRs on the black nucleus banner) so that definitely impacted my experience, honestly I’m staying for Cocoritter. Good vid btw
In my opinion, yeah the combat in ToF is not terrible, but nothing to get excited about, either cause of how clunky af it is. Combat can only take a game so far, the story is where a game will make or break it. Reason why people still play Honkai? Story. Reason why people still play FGO? Story. Reason why people still play Genshin? Story.
I've been playing FGO for 5 years and the plot is what keeps me playing, well also alot of the events have really great stories, same with Genshin tbh, but in Genshin only 1 of every 10 events has something good in the plot department XD
Disagree. Combat can make or break a game. There's really no one specific characteristic what makes or break that applies to all. Arcade games don't need stories. An rpg rougelike dungeon crawler can have it, but it doesn't make or break it. There are tons of example on different genres that has well done stories, has terrible, has none but still played enthusiastic by what they have liked on it. Genshin, and like most of the games these days, are still subpar to the likes of God of War, not even Diablo or FF, even if just story wise.
DAMMIT I WAS WRITING A 4 PARAGRAPH APPRECIATION LETTER AS TO WHY I LOVE THIS REVIEW OF YOURS FOR ALMOST AN HOUR THIS REVIEW OF YOURS IS NOT BIASED, NOT DUMB, BUT A FAIR REVIEW OF TOF AND YOU ACTUALLY PLAYING YOURSELF AND GIVING IT A CHANCE AND LOOKING AT IT AS IS, WITHOUT PUTTING YOUR OWN BIASED OPNION, ON PLACES WHERE YOUR OPINION WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE "EXPLANATION." REEEEEEEEEEEEEE P.S I'm DEFINITELY subscribing. (also pretty sure I was subbed to you before because I know I've heard your voice before; same voice and humor)
It's interesting to know the people's opinions of playing TOF amidst to the problem the had, tho i never played it, not because of the BS controversies they had (it somewhat turned me off tho a little bit) its just the click to play the game wasn't there. And it seems like one of the reasons why i didn't play the game is I'm already waiting for wuthering waves
imo genshin really needs more competition, but the tof controversy left a bad taste in my mouth, like genshin was never trying to be the new botw or smth while it irks me that tof calls itself the "genshin killer" and is just trying soo hard to rival genshin rather than be its own thing
It was fun at first since I was at a Genshin burnout a day passed and I think to myself, man the story... kinda sucks Maybe other people may like it, but personally it's just not my cup of tea Everything feels too rushed The voice of characters doesn't feel like it matched their situation atmosphere The combat wasn't my favorite as well since the higher the level the longer the fight is I mean at low level you won't need a minute to fight a boss character, bada bing bada boom suddenly at high level they're all bullet sponges and take thousands of hits to finally defeat one enemy The only good thing I liked about the game are these Custom character creation, character visual designs, Travelling and the Music Played it for a week with friends since it was nice playing together And stopped playing before I even realized it
I love this game now. I'll just hopium that the cheats will be gone soon and bugs will be much less. There's just no better genshin mmorpg right now. It's even super f2p friendly. I love this game unironically.
I’ve been playing daily a few days after launch. Performance is just ok on my pc but other than that I really enjoy the gameplay and waifus. Still somewhat confused about the story despite completing it. Bout to hit lvl 62 and plan on fleshing out a volt and ice team. I hope ToF will bring me joy for a long time because I love the game.
I loved this games since day 1 until about two days ago when I said to myself this game is good and all but why should I play this game when I have genshin(and I loved this game so much that I have a nemesis and Frigg C1 and have bought the BP) Edit: I forgot to mention that I have also maxed out my friggs gift point(4k) and upgraded it to lvl 120
I wonder what were the red flags that made you jump ship from Punishing Gray Raven. I mean, I enjoy the game and I thing that the positive outweighs the negative at least for me. I'm curious.
It was all the controversies at launch. The main one being that global players got less black cards then cn players in the beginner tasks. It's been a while so I don't fully remember the controversies but they were enough to make me stop playing. The game itself is amazing though.
oh boy yeap pgr global launch was a mess in like the first month or so. Where do I begin lets see here... As he said, you get less BC that was in starter quests/checklists/milestone but in return you get a free skin which CN didn't have which sparked some dissatisfaction among others. And then theres the RC packs which are priced slightly expensive than the CN & JP, their reason was because of Google charge rate or something (im not sure), and its RC amount is either a little less (28 RC) or bit more (34RC) which felt problematic for people to purchase the monthly plan A which costs (30 RC), literally in the middle, theres no RC pack that sells exactly 30RC. Which then followed up by next disaster, where a discord mod mocked the community saying something like "cant you spent a bit of money on that lmao" (somewhere along those lines) which resulted in their PGR discord shutting down for a few days, (probably almost a week even?) to fix this whole debacle. After a few days, the said mod was later removed/ban, and their remedy to the monthly plan was not to change any of the original prices but instead they came up with another monthly plan, plan C, similar to monthly plan A but you get less BC which costs 28RC. And finally iirc, the next one was the uh first small event with a gacha skin, where you have to play a slot machine to obtain random stuff (mats, an icon, memories, etc) and among them is one of the rare skins which is impossible for f2p to get (of course) but problematic enough for p2w people too because well its in a gacha system. F2p got like 3-5 pulls per day, to pull more you have to spent some real currency on it. Until you reach the certain pity or lucky enough to get the rare skin. So yeah 😐 It was very bad launch in the beginning. But as a day 1 player i can say the game is doing good now, every update makes the game better and better. And also have thes best gacha pity system so far than any other gacha games imo. So yeah, if you want to hop in now, better sooner than later because you'll missed out all those 100% rate up banners and they're limited time per event only lol
@@Kulgia I did not know that. Thanks for the info. I just recently started playing it actually. I enjoy it a lot. And my first impression are mostly positive so I was surprised that there were controversies back then.
I quit PGR as well though not for the reasons you have. I quit it for the same reasons as I have with HI 3rd. It is an episodic type of game and I hate those (Except for Arknights crazily enough). I was hoping for an open world Sci-fi which I finally got in Tower of Fantasy in contrast to Genshin Impact's more fantasy like aesthetics. Sure that ToF is crude in everything but 8 hope it will get polished.
I had high hopes for this game and it showed a lot of potential. I hoped it would be a "genshin killer" or at least good competition. It feels very unpolished and rushed and very janky to play
"Genshin killer" is kinda optimistic since genshin had such a big budget that Mihoyo took a gamble on and it paid off very well. A good competitor would've been better
A lot of the issues in the game seems to have been fixed or at least as far as my playthrough went there was no more time gate on the chests and the like. Still have the occasional cutscene issues but i don't really mind that part. It's fun and i get to explore plenty. Combat feels fast paced and smooth. The game has plenty of potential and while i wouldn't call it a genshin killer and it defenitely shouldn't aim to become one it should stand on it's own. The rolls are fairly generous and since right now there's a very limited pool of characters you can get almost all of them relatively easily.
Yeah when I heard meant to be I fell in love with it too the only thing that's stopping me from fully enjoy the game is the animations and the voice cuts in story
I really REALLY disagree with the f2p friendly part, by your calculations you need more than 3 months for one single ssr unit guarenteed because you need 120 rolls in or you cant roll as f2p because your flame gold gets shafted to the standard banner.
120 rolls for 120 flame gold is an overstatement. Since getting all your SRs makes them convert themselves into the respective draw's gold currency(black gold on standard and flame on limited). And SRs are GUARANTEED every 10 pull(except black nuc draw*), so technically in 100 pulls you can have more than 110 flame gold(depending on your luck). Which means it takes around 10 or more draws less than 120 to get an exchange-ensured limited SSR character/weapon.
nah, the game is very friendly, when it comes to give you SSR, but ITS NOT when it comes to give the one YOU want. Random one? they give you pretty easily, but the one you want? keep dreaming :D there is no sure pity like genshin that if you fail 1 the next is the one you want 100% , no.. here you just don't get the unit if you're not lucky , simple as that.
@@marcuszyrus2189 Probably true what annoys me tho its that its an mmo, and having dupes doesnt just give you more damage or utility it actually directly impacts your score. So for it to be worth it you need it to reach 6 stars or youll lose a ton of GS and will be stuck with the standard characters. Like is it worth it to replace a 6 star zero for a 3 star nemesis even? nope your score goes down by ALOT.
I’m going to be real As a dolphin player/near whale player from Genshin Impact. I used to be SO IN LOVE WITH IT because the story was interesting…. At first. The unfortunate part of the game was that they made SO MANY characters that I wanted so badly! So the addiction and summoning made me feel so held back for not having one unit that turned out was only a niche needed unit for the upcoming content. Once I caught up to the game story and maps just to not be left behind, I was so burnt out to the point I get so exhausted just playing the game. Funny enough, it got worse when I needed to farm for the artifacts just to keep up with damage in the content. Of course with the less abundant exp mats to help raise my characters all made it to and overly excessive grind. I still love their characters and some aspects of the story since I love writing my own stories for fun So getting inspirations and ideas that could be worked on. It was the RNG Artifact farming that drained me so badly. The moment I saw the Tower of Fantasy ad I was HELL NO that looks so dumb. However, being so burnt from Genshin and still itching for open world. I downloaded it and tried it. The moment I saw I can create a character I was hooked, the story threw me off but the gameplay, the gacha, and all of that was available in game was different and enjoyable I love the game and I can accept the issues and red flags, but “a Genshin clone” is the one thing this game is NOT because Genshin is the last thing that should talk about or call other games “clones” or “copies”
ToF combat is terrible compared to Genshin in ToF you only attack and dash when you see a red light in Genshin you have to use skills correctly to cause the right reactions and learn enemy attacks to dodge them liking ToF's combat but not Genshin's says a lot about you
mobile legends was hated so much that our country threatens it to be banned. But look at it now. it was the most played game here. but back in the day no ones want to play it coz it was a copy cat of an successful online game before it. just like Genshin and TOF . i can see the resemblance, and the key for its success is to be more accessible for everybody. So to every gamers, lets encourage developers and company to do more. coz we as players would greatly benefits if they do their jobs with lovely encouragement from the people who plays and spends for them to earn.
I played it since it's launch, pulled a lot of gacha, got tons of ssr in just 2 weeks. But even though it was really glitchy in the beginning, I gave it a chance since it was a new game. Then i patiently waited for genshin 3.0 update. Since it has smoother gameplay, i thought I'd jump right back in and wander around sumeru. So when the update came I pulled for zongli, spent ALL the primos that I grinded and saved for MONTHS, and then lost the 50/50. Went back to ToF after that. At least it doesn't give me so much heartache and is f2p friendly. I got just two 5star character after playing genshin for months, I don't really like that now, you're either a whale or a prawn.
They called Tower of Theft in china with a reason. They copied everything. Sadly I can't expect too much from a game, which is copies even their stories. The story of this game is so bad, because it's copied from games too. Sirli/Nemesis story is a copy of Honkai Kiana/HoV story line and we can continue. Now they mass produce new updates, because they can milk the hypetrain as long as it goes, but if someone knows only a little bit about game development, that should know that this not goes for long. Within a year, this game has so many copy right issues, it'll bankrupt, or if not, they will run out of content, and give less (and lower quality) content in longer time than Genshin.
Ok I've heard of the asset theft at the start of the game's development but never did I heard that the WHOLE game is copied. Like never. Also the "copied Kiana story" is bullshit. First of all the stories are actually only vaguely similar and second of all bro it's just a trope. There is a lot of them in writing and that's okay!
Exploration frustrated me so much , the cooldown on the jetpack is something like 2 minutes ! So there was me standing idle for that time so I can continue exploring -.- I play on mobile so couldn't really do the hop climb thing.
Jetpack thing is relatable especially before you get the grapling hook. But you can actually hop climb on mobile by pressing unclimb followed by double jump coupled with moving your analog towards the surface you are climbing. Hope this helps.
When I play Genshin on my phone, it feels like a miracle and that I'm playing a PC game on a small device. When I play ToF on my pc, it feels like I'm playing a phone game on an emulator.
You spelled that out so well. I was wondering why it felt like such a cheap experience.
I mean, it is supposed to be optimized for mobile game. Both games technically are supposed to be for mobile except one is clearly superior in the graphic aspect
Only noob player lots of complaints. I played this game so far so good with F2P style. Maybe I'm too pro
@@sweetspicy6787 Too poor maybe, try a better game Chang
@@sweetspicy6787 Nah you noob.
“I believe the voice director told them to speak as if they’re dead inside”
Meanwhile, a honkai star rail mob is going for the best voice actor of the year award.
That is freaking amazing
wait, who? i mean that mob, cause I've been waiting to play that game.
@@Haru-rs2su it’s just a way of saying that the voice over for star rail is wayyyyy better than tof’s
@@cvang_el oh, well okay.
Yes dead inside
Very good video. My personal biggest gripe with the game is how everyones oc looks objectively better than mine.
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yeah I either make a Deviantart reject or literally just Kirito in a different outfit. CharaCustomisation wack.
It's the opposite for me. While mine character looks okay everyone who I meet have some shit straight up from the randomizer.
you can copy mine, she's super cool :P
I just make mine look like me for a self insert
For me it's the fact that i can't exactly feels immersed/connected to the game/characters. In game like AK, PGR, GI, HI you kinda feels the connection to the characters and the world building. Even if you say "It's because ToF is mmo so it's about gameplay bla bla bla" Let's be real, it doesn't really feels a lot like MMO, and i actually feels immersed back when i played Dragon Nest
To be fair it's also because you know what to expect ... If this was your first mmo you would probably feel that same immersion lel ... Then again leaving ToF for any other mmo would probably make those mmos feel amazing kek
@@toukoenriaze9870 stop you will scare him.
…did the first reply just justified “this game is only shit because you compared it to other mmo games.” That’s when you know it’s such a bad mmo that a single comparison can just kill it lmfao. “tO bE fAiR, 20/100 is only bad if you look at all other scores objectively.”
That’s a lot of copium to come up with such a poor excuse for shitty game in their own genre.
Don't remind me of Dragon Nest. Despite all of its current flaws, I am still going to go out and say that the combat of Dragon Nest is UNRIVALED to date. Not saying it's the best combat, but there's nothing like Dragon Nest's combat let alone a better alternative.
Anyway, I started dropping off Dragon Nest when they started using crappy machine translations so I could no longer follow the story and characters. Not to mention using unique NPC models for generic NPCS. Basically I could no longer immerse myself in the story or characters and therefore, stopped caring about it.
I mean really, Gertaint or Gerrant. Karakule or Kasarana. Nexon is lots of things, but at least they had better naming convention.
(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) dragon nest... ah what a beautiful time, even though the game is dead but the memories are still in
They story isn't great on ToF. The voice director made them dirty they sound bland.
The only thing I like about game is the combat that's about it.
Voice director made my famous VAs did piles of blatant dialogues, I can feel it.
I mean u can put in japanese and is done lol
@@tryfergoodra552 I play in Japanese (since its my native language), but its pretty bad there too... better than the English VAs, but still some bad direction. Not to mention voices being cut off due to cutscenes ending faster than the recorded voices.
As you get closer to the end the main quest (for now), your character will also stop talking and let’s not talk about Mia she’s such a side character, even Frank (Franz?) is a more important character
Its generic story that seems like a rip off of many others... have you seen other games stories? like arknights, PGR, fgo, honkai, even comparing to mmos like lost ark, wow, ffxiv, etc. like i guess if its ur first game u might believe its a good story but after watching some other games or even animes this feels just like meh and boring.
I definitely enjoy Tower of Fantasy but the issue I have with the gacha is how much worst the SRs are compared to the SSRs.
i never se anyone use sr in this game at the late game :v
@JeLomun I agree that you do get more SSRs compared to 5 stars atleast for the standard banner.
I personally still love Genshin pretty much as when I first started and I enjoy that they still release 4 star characters.
Tower of Fantasy is definitely a good game ignoring all the plagiarism they are caught up in.
as a guy who rerolled 2x in a game and getting only 1 SSR in 60pulls i agreed and the skin gachapons are terrible too ,
Yeahh. I've never seen someone use SR in their team when they have at least 3 SSR.
I've seen some using pepper but that's probably cause they don't have an SSR healer.
At least some of their simulacra traits are very good for certain builds, like Echo.
I played it for an ok chunk of time when it released, but overall Genshin still wins out for me. I did enjoy it, and would like to go back and play, but with classes starting again I don't have the extra free time to give it anymore. I am interested to see what all has changed by the time I play again though; that ought to be cool!
3.0 is probably the best genshin update so far lol, new region and dendro finally being added with other stuff added. take your time with it cuz its story will be long
@@kingalex105x7 My good dude I play genshin daily.
@@DaBayleef didnt know
I still play both since they don’t take *that* much time imo, but mostly tof atm b/c the combat is straight up satisfying imo
@@fifteen8850 yes i cant get bored of the gameplay
Love doing air combos while changing weapons
I liked ToF for its own strong sides, and even didn't touch Sumeru in Genshin for 1-2 weeks, but paradox - ToF made me appreciate and love Genshin more :D I finally went to Sumeru and the amount of love spent on locations, music, characters (who really gets you attached to them) made me feel such an unexpected warm feeling towards the game
I played ToF just to wait for Sumeru honnestly
ToF is a side dish for whats to come in Genshin sumeru
Same I appreciate more Genshin after playing ToF
Well then you've missed all the good free shit in sumeru events.
@@konnichiwa47 all sumeru events are still active.
My only problem is that we level up too fast and for casual players like myself, instead of it feeling rewarding, i somehow feel weaker than stronger as enemies become stronger because while my level may be high, my equipment and suppressors and stuff can't keep up.
fr, I’m really falling behind because of that 500% exp boost. My cs is garbage and I do no damage in comparison to other players on my level
LITERALLY, the server exp boosts fucked me over. Now I don't play the game x-x
@@turtle8231 then why don’t you just do stuff based on ur cs and not level? So you can build ur way up
@@Tissuestrash Because the enemies in the overworld scale according to your level, not your CS.
However, you could always grind in the ruins and dungeons as you can choose which difficulty you want to tackle based on level and CS requirement.
@@coconuthead98 overworld stuff has like nothing to do with cs gain tho bygones,join ops, fc,wormhole are the main things that make u gain cs hard
The only thing that i hate about this game was the AI on the enemy, it's so bad especially when you do bygone phantasm sometimes the enemy was just stand still and not moving at all its really hard for me to group them
I always got spooked by Samir until she became 5 star. Her 5 star skill is convenient against scattered enemies as Samir's special skill pull the enemies together.
I lost multiple of those rounds because one or more AI got stuck in the entrance parts and just didn't move out and I didn't realize until too late
Once i encountered a bug, where Hanna (little girl robot from Navia) spoke her phrase at x3 speed. Laughed on the floor for a minute
So it wasn’t just my brain being loyal to genshin, this game is actually badly optimized.
But still I love this game got mmo open world and vehicle to mess around with which. And the core game play got much more potential than genshin.
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yea, its not about bein loyal, genshin is objectively better on every possible way (if you don't prefer to play with 3634634432 people and hackers lol)
and it came out 2 years earlier, that should say a lot already.
My conclusion is that this game is awesome until you play Genshin lol
@@Brkncntrllr Do you like Tower of Fantasy?
@@march22nd Yeah, it's a neat game, offers a different experience compared to Genshin. Also character customization is cool.
I just can’t get into genshin is all. The new stuff lasts about 2 days and I get bored. I’ve been playing tof for weeks and am still not bored of it
There are many red flags, main one being the current event. But I’m on hopium that the game can get better. However, if in the future it looks like the game isn’t improving where it needs to, then I’ll drop it. Also, I’m gonna stream Genshin 3.0 today at 11:15pm est. It’ll be my first time playing since launch, so I’m curious to see how it’ll be. And then imma delete it after the stream.
How did 3.0 sumeru go for you?
Idk I've heard that the 2.0 is the game changer. Honestly I still give it a chance. From the others 3 big gacha games I played (Honkai impact, Genshin impact and PGR) the only game that had a good start was genshin while both Honkai and PGR were bare bones gameplay and story vise at the start. So there is still a window for improving in this game.
for me , it doesn't matter how much is flawed, is a very good filler between one genshin patch and the other XD
,,this game is shit and i don't see any improvement"
,,HeY iM StREaMiNg GeNsHiN"
and whole video can be thrown to trash
Fucking sad to watch how you say that you are not a genshin fan, but you will stream it
And how your first argument about the game being bad is the queue times that were 1 min fucking long ape
Tbh even if the game got better I still won't go back to it. It just...didn't feel fun for me. Sure the combat looks cool and all but that's it. After playing for a week or so I got so burnt out I don't touch it anymore. Nothing too exciting for the story and exlploration too.
Since you mentioned ToFs combat system vs Genshin, I guess I'll give my long ass 2 cents on the topic. I have to admit, I didn't play ToF for very long, between the time gate, extreme lag and overall unpolished feeling present in every part of the game, I really didn't have any fun with it, but one thing I knew for sure is that Genshin had a much better combat system.
I personally think the Elemental System is one of the best designed mechanics in Genshin, maybe even the best. It's simple at it's surface, but has a world of depth if you engage with the theorycrafting, and creates a level of synergy way beyond just "Gives your party an atk buff" or "Increases damage on this specific element". Take the Swirl reaction for example: at the surface, swirl just spreads the element applied on an enemy to nearby enemies, but on a deeper level, swirl is not only a very good source of damage in AoE, but also can trigger reactions off itself, like Overloads, Vaporizes or more recently, Quicken and Hyperbloom/Burgeon, and if you go even deeper than that, you can get swirl off things you didn't even know held an aura, like guoba swirls.
But on ToF, I saw nothing like that, at least not from the SSRs I got at the start, those being Nemesis and Shiro, had good synergies between each other. Nemesis had her kit, healing, pillar thing, and that was it, and Shiro just threw stuff against enemies, neither felt like they interacted in any way. Sure, maybe those units just didn't have any synergy but I was unlucky to get both of them together, however, at least in Genshin, if you get random units, they will have some level of synergy, no matter what.
And also on the topic of rotations in Genshin just being a keyboard pressing macro on repeat, I would disagree. Some comps sure have that sort of playstyle, 15s Morgana rotations are the prime example, but you also have complicated rotations that require a deeper understanding of game mechanics to perfom the best it can, like Kazuha double swirls in International or just Soup teams in general. Also also, Genshins rarity system works way better than in ToF; 4* in Genshin are very much impactful, and some, if not most of the top 5 units in the game are 4*, but in ToF, using an SR weapon Vs an SSR not only felt horrible, but the damage didn't even compare.
edit: Also I forgor to mention the Artifacts and Weapons in Genshin give even more depth to comps, since many units have multiple viable options depending on the team you're using
Combat system was stolen from Honkai Impact, so... (at least it resembles the one in honkai A LOT, like combos, QTE and Time Fracture after evasion)
Genshin’s combat system is one of the best part of the game imo. It’s not hard to pick up, but it can get surprisingly in-depth if you learn about it more. You can even go Elemental Razor, or other weird comps if you know the mechanics. I like the idea of artifacts like thundering fury, or instructor sets for example. i just don’t like how random it is, but it’s not a deal breaker.
Genshin 4 stars being too OP was unintentional on the Dev's part, I am pretty sure of it, considering how they are trying to walk it all back with newer 4 stars kits being almost unusable in the abyss.
@@RKNancy I’m pretty sure Genshin can be f2p because of the powerful 4 star not only that you can beat the game without using gacha you can see some content creators do some stuff like that so it’s pretty balance
When I saw my Ice attacks not freezing the water I understood Genshin had better gameplay lol the whole elemental reactions to environment and enemies is great.
I dissagree on this game having better gameplay than genshin, it's not even close. Yeah a lot of genshin is "skill spamming" but if you want involvment there are insane rotations you can learn, oh and cause he brought up Punishing, that game's gameplay felt waaay better than ToF's in my humble opinion, I'd say Punishing probably had the best gameplay in any Gacha action games.
That's Kuro for ya... Punishing is goddamn smooth.. and we're getting an open world with Punishing gameplay next year.. god I can't wait
PGR and honkai have the best combat kit for characters
True but Genshin is extremely easy, so learning different rotations isn't incentivized as much as it should be. This is a game with a 10 year plan and we haven't even reached a quarter of the journey yet so I'm definitely expecting that to change, since they have to think about the players who will start playing in the middle or at the end of their development plan.
i agree. PGR beats ToF in terms of combat.
2 Gacha games that I liked in terms of combat are definietly PGR and Honkai, both are hack and slash, and both are able to achieve good combat system without being too complicated with their controls. PGR only have like movement analog, attack, dodge/evade, ultimate ability, character switch and the orbs, but the game still alowed you to do some complex combo. Almost the same with Honkai where the game only have movement analog, attack, weapon ability, evade, ultimate, and character switch and just like PGR you can still do more complex combo (looking at you Fu Hua battlesuits and their fighting game inspired combo mechanics).
2:43 I want to point out that it crashes at certain points on some mobile devices like mine where it just loses textures and dies 💀
My crash too on some points in the game where it can't render the textures properly, but I really can't complain when I am playing ToF which requires 8gb ram as minimum, on a 6gb at max phone.
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Anyways, mine only crashed when I was exploring. It doesn't crash in a large boss run for some reason.
@@lostplushii I mean I do play this on a 6gb ram phone so I guess that's the reason thanks for opening my eyes
get an iphone bro
I used to play it on my laptop until I quit ToF, and it still crashed all the time.
@@zulchemical I play on iPad and it does the same thing
Definitely agree its hard to love, I personally couldn't throw my lot in with it as I quite literally got the SSR selector picked my character and immediately uninstalled. Didn't do it out of any malice but just looking back on how much I had to do to get the selector on top of how much I'd have to do to get through in order to be where I want to just killed my interest. Also feel it didn't help that I played exclusively on my phone and after awhile I realized the game's UI gets cumbersome for a phone making it tedious to navigate. All in all I'll stick to PGR
Same...i played for 3 days to get the selector, did alot of the exploration and got other 4 ssr but i was getting more bored each day...
Surely you dislike Genshin then with how tedious it is to get even one 5 star that may not even be the one you want?
How’s PGR? As much as I’d like to try it out, my phone can’t handle heavy games which is why I’m limited to pc games.
@@jcp5302 In my case, i've been playing FGO for 5 years so, saving for characters in Genshin is really easy in comparison, i can do 75 rolls for pity every 1.5 months or less...is really easy to save in Genshin...
But tbh i'm playing Genshin for the story and the exploration
@@jcp5302 Genshin has a myriad of unaddressed issues that disgust me to no end (artifacts, event handling, endgame content, weapon banner, lack of coop options, etc) but the difference is I at least had the patience for Genshin. Gacha games aren't something I'm a stranger to and while I have my issues with them I ultimately don't let them decide my overall enjoyment of the games themselves(plus while I'm not a whale in most gacha games I am willing to spend when something I genuinely want comes along). To me, Genshin has far more to offer in terms of a new player experience since the world calls to you to experience it, I couldn't get that feeling when playing ToF, I didn't care to learn more about any of the locations I visited, to listen to what NPC's said at all, or just see more of the world not because I thought it was badly designed or anything but because I just didn't care. Now he mentioned that the writing in the character stories wasn't too bad and gripped him but when I got to the point where I did a character story wasn't even in my field of fleeting interest. Jaded as my opinion of Genshin is at this point (AR59 having played since October of the first year) even though I have a lot of negativity pent up for the game at this point I can still play a game that frustrates me with the occasional time it can make me happy/excited, I can't play a game that I lack interest in which unfortunately ToF is.
After playing ToF, I don’t want to hear anyone complaining about Genshin english Voice actors
The pacing of the story in the beginning was too fast that I had to stop playing it momentarily to take it in. You know that skeleton chair meme with the flashing red eyes? That was me.
Yea one moment you're chilling with shirley and next she wants to die
Two things that I like better in ToF than in Genshin:
1. No stamina while running so I can get to things FASTER without relying on skills,Vehicles like goddamn this saved hundreds of hours of travelling. Map is huge. Though the game geometry fucks it over. Can't even go over a small stone without jumping.
2. At least the equipment is almost the same all around. Unlike in genshin where you have three fucking layers of RNG where a single wrong stat can ruin the entire equipment. Hundreds of hours of gameplay and almost 80% of that is running dungeons for equipment, upgrading said equipment, crying because the equipment gave health instead of crit as a sub-stat and now it's trash, re-run again for equipment, rinse and repeat until you just lower your standards because you're out of resin.
ToF story is good in paper
if they make more build and character bonding it would works
sadly it isn't
well.. in truth, they gave the main character, a totally useless role..
What are they there for? we don't know.. If you were a fly, the story would unfold exactly in the same way O_o
A brother tryin to save his sister, who try to save his brother, who try to save his sister.. rinse and repeat lol
The side stories look better than the main one XD
The main character make me feel the twins from Genshin Impact are more worth to follow their story than this problem solving boi (or girl) that falls in love with Shirli.
@@aoffydosy1530 well, as i said in other comments.. the main char in this game, is not needed for the story at all for now.. hopefully they give him/her some meaning and some deeper plot, because as it is, its a troll, the new patch island is laughable.. except for the sorry housing system which gives ZERO change for customization.. the island itself is empty no quest, just sadness XD
@@aoffydosy1530 bruh I don’t get how the you can design you’re own mc when they have a twin they supposed to look like each other not the other way around
Reasons why Genshin Impact is better than Tower of Fantasy:
Genshin Impact: has Port Ormos musics
Tower of Fantasy: doesn't have Port Ormos musics
(No I don't want to use serious arguments.)
Thank you for this video. It is so well-written and paced. I love the jokes in between and the examples you’ve brought up.
Before ToF even came out globally, I was already hesitant to play it. It was one controversy after another and the CN playerbase dropped it way before global servers went live. But, my friends tried it out and they seemed to have fun despite the bugs so I thought I would give it a few months before starting. That’s what I did with genshin, which I still play today. I like games that are very casual, something I can boot up after a long busy week and have fun. I also like storylines and worldbuilding in games.
My friend streams and he played ToF and the story didn’t hook me in. That was already a major downside for me. And the gacha feels a bit unsatisfying to me since you can use your mc and just equip the weapon from the character that you got to them. Not to mention, the gacha characters were not eye candy material to me personally. The combat tho do look flashier and more dynamic than genshin’s, so that’s one thing I can really praise about the game.
It’s been out for some time now. My friends who played and enjoyed it for two weeks before dropping it. I’ll most probably not going to play it but I still appreciate this video because I see almost nobody talking about it now. It is like a closure on what happened on ToF global.
Honestly, as someone who loves Animation, the thing irks me the most is the animation. I cringed everytime the character face moved to talk. They never shows emotion. I still remember the yellow haired girl Scream because she gets attacked but her face are just😃 the whole time it creeps me out
i like to think the lack of agency in genshin's fighting makes the game a tad more challenging and annoying in the abyss
The devs seem to be listening to the player base so I hope that things go well for this game in the future cause it has the potential to be really good.
About copy-pasting. When I was wandering around the map and exploring the Ruins, I repeatedly got the feeling that most of the environment looks like Borderlands. 3rd game mostly inspired the ruins and bandits. Normal map with it's lockers and chests with green light on them, enemy design, structure design, everything looks like Borderlands...
The biggest problem I have with this game, well two but one is related to the multiplayer aspect, is the cluncky evasion mechanic.
I'm mainly a Honkai player and I used to play PGR when it launched, but stopped because storage was not enough on my old phone and decided to go with the one I dedicated more time to. The evasion mechanic in ToF is so clunky I don't bother with it most of the times, like 7 out of 10 times it just doesn't register. If I'm in a middle of an attack the character won't dodge even tho I'm bashing the Shift button like crazy when the red flash appears and, like you described it, the flash is inconsistent; some enemies have it before starting an attack and you have some room to dodge, some have it right before they attack and the window of time you have to dodge it is just too small.
The other problem is that there are some chests on the maps that are multiplayer locked, where you need to be with 2 or 3 people to unlock it. As a mostly solitary player... well I guess you can see the problem there.
Also seems that bosses are also mainly designed around the mutiplayer aspect.
And here's a third problem, the menus, I started playing two weeks ago or so. It took me until yesterday and at level 45 to figure out where the shop menu is. Like I thought Honkai's menus were a jumbled mess, but ToF's menus are on another level of jumbled mess. Also the sheer ammount of content they bombard you with early game, the immense ammount of currencies and upgrade materials.
And the speed of leveling up. Took me 2 weeks to get to 45-46, took me a year and a half in honkai to get to 80, and another year to get to 88. I don't have a problem with the fact that you level up really fast, I have a problem that enemies also level up really fast, and because I refuse to join in the coop shit where I have 2 other players with the internet connection of a N64 , I have underleveled weapons, yay.
hahah well this game has a lot of problems .. but honestly, its a good filler between genshin patches, so i don't take it seriously, and just play it when i have nothing better to do.
Its a bit sad tho cause i started day one, i wasn't able to do this on genshin, and here i did it, and still, i didn't got taken by how good it looks or how cool the combat feel , like i did in egnshin.
Aside all the problems you listen, the combat system is very repetitive because there is nothing special about it, just mash buttons , the order doesn't matter , change weapons based on the enemies, and the fact that they are 3 help a bit, but still too much special effects too many enemies, its way too confusing, and as you said, the UI is total garbage, yo said lvl 45, i have to reach like 58 to be able to understand where all the options were, where to click etc. I don't hate the game, but sure i don't love it either.
this game is just not for you i think, it's designed to play with other people and for solo player is kinda meh, can't even imagine how to play it without others
i play honkai and genshin too and it depends on my mood
if i want a great story and combat i'll go to honkai
if i want to explore and amazing open world I'll go to genshin
if i want to have fun with friends I'll play tof
every game has different strong side in the core design and some people may like one and find annoying another
@@Yuong0 And when you don't have friends with interest in the game? Who should I play with? Random poeple with ping spikes as jagged as saw teeth or with a language barrier between us?
The problem is not that it's mmo. The problem is that it forces multiplayer play through locked chests and bosses. I play Genshin co-op. I don't mind it. But sometimes I just can't play co-op since I play late at night. Having the option to both farm co-op and solo is better overall to the player experience.
Also after taking a look at ToF's global chat, I'll stay far away from that shitshow community.
Like Snowrunner. The game is overal better co-op, but you still can complete the game solo... Well except for phase 7, but we don't talk about that.
I have a friend who I play that game with, but he's a transport driver across Europe. So should I postpone playing the game if he's away?
Also, for me, the multiplayer aspect is not a major problem with tof, the clunkiness of the game is and, like the comment above yours said, the repetitive button mashing of a combat with a hit or miss evasion system.
Totally agreed. Every time I complained about the dodging system everyone defendend the game spamming "skill issue, skill issue, skill issue". The game is objectively rushed and bad designed, combat clunky, no ost, souless game, open world very cheap.
Can't compete with honkai or pgr.
@@manoA98A non fa' cagare, ma sicuro non e' niente di che sto gioco
My problem with this game is the Dev
This game is really fun to play, it’s a good game but it’s always that shitty part of Dev that keeps me from fully love this game like copying from other games( but what they copied isn’t even necessary) and tons of bug (fun and bad)
I really want this game to do well, the potential is huge. It just needs polishing... a lot of it. But I have hope.
Ive been loving ToF tbh and they keep updating the game. (looks weekly so far). So far been liking the story but thats just me. The time gating hasnt bothered me since by the time the next story section is open those chests are open. I can agree however the voiced parts are a bit off with them stopping sometimes. There is also the thing that many say 2.0 is the 'true release' of the game so im excited to see what changes come in 2.0 (great video btw)
P.S. 180 may be the cap (360 later) but doing more over that gives a different currency
Yeah, i was actually invested in the story by the time it reached Navia and Dr. Claire. Though it can be improved in the story telling aspect, I can say it has improved bit by bit since the start.
Really the story is good?
The lore might be good. But the story telling is horrible in my exeprience.
The voice acting is awkward and the Scenes are so weird.
I havent been interested on the story at all. And story is the only thing that appeals me to move on in this game.
Im fine grinding. But its worthless to grind when the story is this bad.
@@yuusha2150 10 bucks it's bad, if it's that good- even for a little, the amount of fan arts will bloom, for example PSO2, the story wasn't that good but at least it's not bad, and therefore appreciation comics and fan arts from player base to capture such memorable moments... but ToF? nah.. it's like tryin to search oasis in the middle of desert lol
@@yuusha2150 Japanese voice acting was really good tho but yea the story feels rushed. And the worst thing is it actually has a lot of potential that was just really poorly executed.
I hate how the bosses are just ridiculously tanky and they can 2 shot you. This by itself is annoying, but combined with shitty dodge timings makes it even worse.
Some bosses just rarely let you hit them like the frost dragon and this bitch in hard frontier clash who keeps flying around.
Then they nerfed my boy crow 😭
I couldn’t get through the start of that game, I got Shiro (SSR) so I wanted to stay longer but I just found myself dreading ACTUALLY playing the next quest. It felt dull to me, I definitely enjoy Genshin more
hearing sad persona 3 music for some reason during the video caused me actual pain. but anyways thank u for saying what we've all been thinking lmaooo. it was straight up ripping off other games and people were calling us "mad genshin fans" for pointing out the obvious
I'm still enjoying ToF a lot because of the battle system and being able to play with my friends. But my biggest issues with it are:
1. The constant element resistances. You spend so much time and resources on a main team only for it to do barely any dmg. I think this is the only game I've played where I feel weaker instead of stronger as we progress. It's forcing you to build different elemental teams, while requiring a ridiculous amount of materials to level weapons. It's hard as a f2p.
2. Most of the characters are dead inside, they have zero personality, and the voice acting is abysmal. I can't connect with any of them.
3. p2w events. This is a just a huge slap in the face to f2p and low spenders, and one of the reasons I refuse to give them any money.
4. Apparently they can nerf characters after they have been released, which is a BIG no-no for gachas, another reason I will not give them my money.
5. Flying bosses. Why. Just why. Not everyone has built range weapons..
That one stage with the flying guy while you're jumping around on 3 platforms in electrified water...
True the flying boss is pain in the ass not to the mention the frog boss after it floods the fucking map and if you fuxk up on the water board you have to wait like 2 minutes for it to refresh
17:34 the fact that the innocent players that got banned got compensation of the same amount of summons as genshin gave out to their community for anniversary is crazy.
Haven't played this game, but from what you've shown and described, the combat seems like it's just Honkai basically.
I know you mentioned punishing grey raven, but that's known as a honkai-like in cn as well.
I like that you can actually attack in the air tho and air dash ... Coming from genshin I can't go back after seeing that kek
@@toukoenriaze9870 I’m pretty sure that works with honkai mid air attack plus they have alot what I mean alot of different type of attack ofc when it comes to teams and stuff I play both Genshin and honkai and for me both are balance have a good combat and stunning story it’s not really an excuse to make the story so bad even if tof is mmorpg
@@Mush_strawberry Only certain characters (the newer ones) have that mechanic, if I had to compare ToF to anything it would be APHO's combat system
@@toukoenriaze9870 The way you type is so cringy "kek".
yes, it remind me of that cat girl from honkai i pulled when i started playing (around march this year)
Great review, really sums up its issues and good points. On a slightly unrelated note, you jumping the gun and quitting PGR early puts a tear in my eye although honestly it's not too late to come back and enjoy the game imo
does pgr have any multi-player aspects to it?
@@winters_angel yes we have Coop althought it's not exactly the main focus for the game. You could think of it as Boss Hunts with your buddies during specific timeslots when it's open throughout the day.
@@XendiasSoria i see thankyou!
It would have been nice to see ToF come out better to be a competitor to Genshin, but its clear they have a lot of work to do to even begin considering themselves a competitor, let alone a Genshin killer.
Even if the bugs, hackers and general optimisation of the game was solved. It would then need to try rival Genshin in terms of Combat, lore and player's immersion to the game.
Most players of ToF seem to enjoy the fact that its broken, such as the big model glitches. (This happened to Fallout 76 as well and that didnt end up pretty...)
0:16 the track is Hollow Purple for anyone like me struggling to remember where did we hear it
i loooove the fact that the combat somewhat feels more dynamic compared to some of the years frontrunner games but dang other than that everything else just leaves sooo much to be desired.
I want to really love this game since the fighting is fun and the rewards are generous, but I fear my laptop will implode with the amount of crashing and seizure inducing bugs that I get on a very regular basis. Crashing can happen anywhere from playing cutscenes to even opening any sort of menu; the seizure bug (as I like to call it) is just that, it flashes your screen with countless saturated colors without warning and the only way to get rid of it is either opening a menu (if it doesnt crash) or just exiting the game.
I havent even touched my issue with choppy framerates and the inavility to play with other people (if I encounter more than one person on combat it just crashes), this has a high chance to be an issue with my laptop but it runs just fine in genshin (both are played in the lowest settings).
The reason I pre registered and downloaded tof was because I grew tired of the constant grind genshin has you do and the less than dirt rewards it gives you (Im f2p on both games). Been keeping my eye on zenless zone zero (hoyoverse new soon to be released game) but I dont have any expectations on it.
Im torn between waiting until tof is stable enough and risking being more heavy for my laptop, or keep playing and actually having fun but with the constant crashes, bugs, and low framerate.
I would love to play it, heck I even made an account to play it on the first day of its release. I'm also a 1st day player in genshin. But the problem is the release date of ToF is bad timing... at least for me, because classes will literally start next week after the ToF's release. I was able to play it for a week and it's fun. Sadly had to delete it and stop playing cuz I'm getting busier as genshin is more important to me since I'm a veteran player.
Genshin's release is perfect because, first, there are no classes due to the pandemic, second, because of the pandemic, and third, people are bored af from staying at home for 2 years. It's just a perfect time for a game to release to give people something to play with.
Nice review. Most people are just crapping on it because of the Chinese controversy and the comparison to Genshin. Hoping for another one for Limbus Company.
Still waiting for limbus
Yeah limbus do look a bit weird in gameplay but it looks a bit like library of ruina so... I hope it will be as good as LoR
good video! I agree with all the points, except for me, I ended up quitting. The bad points were just too much for me. Despite enjoying the traversal and combat more than Genshin. Genshin just felt more polished, with each region being distinctly different both visually and culturally than the last. The story is also much better. Genshin also trying hard to not power creep. But damn, I wish they were as generous with their pulls as Tower of Fantasy. That felt really nice.
Is it just me or does anyone find ToF's fantasia system in combat eerily similar to one of the Honkai mechanics: a timed dodge in combat (also including a practically identical red light flash thingie) that if executed sucessfully can give various buffs to characters, including a "slowing down time" buff. Obviously the two arent identical but, playing ToF myself and watching you explain the mechanics here, I couldn't help but recognise the feature...
4:30 seeing a toddler flying is better than seeing a toddler walking
Wait I just realized she looks like paimon but with a bigger head 💀
You reviews are good as gigguk, never get bored to rewatch it
I appreciate the compliment, but I don't think I'm that good yet.
@@Tsunul yah but you have potential
To be fair i was told that the 2.0 version improves a lot (aside from the Battle Royale mode but we don't talk about that), the story got better somehow, there are lot of things to do in the game and as for the powercreep yeah that is sadly true but i guess if you don't do pvp (which is always bad in gacha games), you're okay maybe? Though i admit it's kind of shitty to make any other weapon/simulacra in this game that is not limited/ssr are pretty much worthless in the end game.
They've balanced the weapons on mobile thought at least from mine experience.
the balancing is actually better in global than it is in CN. The developers realised for the sake of longevity for the game they decided to hard nerf the newer characters. Frigg and Claudia got nerfed pretty hard in comparison to their CN release. From what I've heard they're going to keep doing this to keep the actual balancing in check.
Standard character can compete with limited if u have their dupes, which is easy to obtain if you at least do the daily bounty. 5 star crow carried me with my pathetic purple gear even though his jet tech is fixed.
@@rohidzaidannasution6828 yeah its only because they decided to balance global because rn CN is fucking powercrept asf. Hence why there was some drama about Claudia being nerfed on global release (Frigg too). They're trying to make everything a bit more balanced which is good
Meant to be, I frikin love it when I accidentally heard it when exploring that island.
Honestly, I found this game more enternaining than other gacha games I have played so far. Because of its multiplayer aspect. The story is meh, but the side stories are actually interesting and could be fleshed out more.
Bugs are okay to me since I've gotten used to them by playing games like tf2 and stuff like that. Honestly this game couldve been better received if they had better marketing and better publishers.
2:06 what's the game on the right side? Please
About animations and the stuttering; in unreal, blender, unity etc, there is literally a built in system that you can add to ANY animation transition to interpolate between the two animation states so the fact that these characters stutter like this is nothing short of lazy. The option to do this is literally right in with setting the animations to be open or loop back so its impossible to say "Oh, we just didn't have access to it". Its like if someone crashed a car and gave the excuse that they weren't aware of the brakes- its literally right there. Laziness.
Lemme straight up the part of the : Timed supply pods, plants, lava....
The thing about the certain supply pods have a timer is because = so you dont RUSH from day 1, like in 1 day you harvest everythinigg thats on the world, so thats why the timer on the supply pods or even in the plants where you can get nucleus are timed, it kinda keeps you in check with the the Rush B that i just mentioned. the same goes for the lava, it doesnt have timer, (unlike the plant does) but they are timed, just need to try check day by day...for me thats kind of good strategy on slowing the players pace, unlike like maybe " Hey i just got every single thing i got in the map, and now idk what to do"...so yeah still a good thing to be timed.
For me, I hated looking at loading screens because that's when it frequently crashes or going BSOD. I can't even log in or pull in a gacha cuz once again, it crashes.
I worry following the support instructions given to me probably bricking my laptop in the process cuz of course im not an expert to fixing PC.
was that the hollow purple theme from jujutsu kaisen at 15 seconds?
I've been playing the f out of this game I'm f2p and got all characters (I know my luck is wild) I listened to the first 5 mins of the story and I'm very thankful that....there's a skip button lmao I never cared about stories in mmos but I do understand it's an important part of the game , to me I'm enjoying the group pve the most getting 20 ppl on a world boss run is so fun and doing joint operations with friends is amazing so yea Imma keep playing as long as there's something to do and as for the time gating it never annoyed me as I don't play that long per day tho it's pretty bad obviously so yea I would give this game objectively a 6/10 at best but for some reason I'm playing like it's an 8/10
i was able to begin one of the personal quests that was apparently in the ice area way north-east and unlock a teleport there. the suppressor thing didn’t go fast enough that i couldn’t eat in time to not die, so i simply made my way backwards to the south-west of the map by teleporting away as soon as i unlocked a new teleport. very glad for that bug, because i would have been very impatient without it (regardless, i dropped it as soon as genshin updated for lack of room)
(also, the fantasia mechanic is exactly the same as honkai impact’s ultimate evasion/time fracture)
What made the game a big no for me is the MMO aspect 😂 I've played a lot of MMOs and i always play them differently with the single player games...
But, it's completely impossible for me to immerse myself if theres tons of players in the background...
Also, i value my visual silence... I want to be the only Character in some backgrounds to fully immerse myself. It's a selfish and loner way of playing a game, but that's what made me play genshin in the first place...
This is honestly the only good informative TOF video that I watched on YT. Like every other content creator that I've watched even with guides are so fkn indirect, it's like watching a bad reaction video with a ppt presentation of an elementary student. This is actually really coherent with actual funny remarks presented well and systematically.
this puts everything i have been wanting to say but cant put into words in one video. thank you for clearly articulating all my gripes and love for this game because i have almost the exact same opinion about it
id love to talk about a bug i had and never heard or read of, i climbed a tree next to the starting city at the litteral beginning of the game and glitched through it and came out somewhere on the second place where u were definetly not supposed to be, since im a good guy i after running around a bit i decided to tp back xD i regretted it to not have activated a teleporter there (since i didnt knew how they looked or how to find them)
as much as I love this game, the voice acting in this game fell flat on me
it doesn't have the emotion in it and sometimes they're speaking slower than the cutscene or they overlap with other character's line
but I still love the game for it's gameplay and the multiple gamemode it has
also great video, I like how you presented your point of view
I was surprised to see so many people talking about bugs, I didn’t have any issue with lag, glitches, or crashing. I also never ran into any time gates and had ridiculous gacha luck (two SSRs on the black nucleus banner) so that definitely impacted my experience, honestly I’m staying for Cocoritter. Good vid btw
Tof is litteraly my favorite uncle
hes nice to me all the time but his life is just messed up😆
In my opinion, yeah the combat in ToF is not terrible, but nothing to get excited about, either cause of how clunky af it is. Combat can only take a game so far, the story is where a game will make or break it. Reason why people still play Honkai? Story. Reason why people still play FGO? Story. Reason why people still play Genshin? Story.
I've been playing FGO for 5 years and the plot is what keeps me playing, well also alot of the events have really great stories, same with Genshin tbh, but in Genshin only 1 of every 10 events has something good in the plot department XD
Disagree. Combat can make or break a game. There's really no one specific characteristic what makes or break that applies to all.
Arcade games don't need stories. An rpg rougelike dungeon crawler can have it, but it doesn't make or break it.
There are tons of example on different genres that has well done stories, has terrible, has none but still played enthusiastic by what they have liked on it.
Genshin, and like most of the games these days, are still subpar to the likes of God of War, not even Diablo or FF, even if just story wise.
Well, about music, Meant To Be sounds so Used To Be from Cytus for me that I loved it but also have some mixed feelings about more possible stealing
DAMMIT I WAS WRITING A 4 PARAGRAPH APPRECIATION LETTER AS TO WHY I LOVE THIS REVIEW OF YOURS FOR ALMOST AN HOUR
THIS REVIEW OF YOURS IS NOT BIASED, NOT DUMB, BUT A FAIR REVIEW OF TOF AND YOU ACTUALLY PLAYING YOURSELF AND GIVING IT A CHANCE AND LOOKING AT IT AS IS, WITHOUT PUTTING YOUR OWN BIASED OPNION, ON PLACES WHERE YOUR OPINION WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE "EXPLANATION." REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
P.S I'm DEFINITELY subscribing. (also pretty sure I was subbed to you before because I know I've heard your voice before; same voice and humor)
It's interesting to know the people's opinions of playing TOF amidst to the problem the had, tho i never played it, not because of the BS controversies they had (it somewhat turned me off tho a little bit) its just the click to play the game wasn't there. And it seems like one of the reasons why i didn't play the game is I'm already waiting for wuthering waves
imo genshin really needs more competition, but the tof controversy left a bad taste in my mouth, like genshin was never trying to be the new botw or smth while it irks me that tof calls itself the "genshin killer" and is just trying soo hard to rival genshin rather than be its own thing
It was fun at first since I was at a Genshin burnout
a day passed and I think to myself, man the story... kinda sucks
Maybe other people may like it, but personally it's just not my cup of tea
Everything feels too rushed
The voice of characters doesn't feel like it matched their situation atmosphere
The combat wasn't my favorite as well since the higher the level the longer the fight is
I mean at low level you won't need a minute to fight a boss character, bada bing bada boom suddenly at high level they're all bullet sponges and take thousands of hits to finally defeat one enemy
The only good thing I liked about the game are these
Custom character creation, character visual designs, Travelling and the Music
Played it for a week with friends since it was nice playing together
And stopped playing before I even realized it
What is the song at 15:48 ??
New World from Tower Of Fantasy
@@Tsunul thanks!!
I love this game now. I'll just hopium that the cheats will be gone soon and bugs will be much less. There's just no better genshin mmorpg right now. It's even super f2p friendly. I love this game unironically.
Your choice of words, and the way you speak.... is golden.
I’ve been playing daily a few days after launch. Performance is just ok on my pc but other than that I really enjoy the gameplay and waifus. Still somewhat confused about the story despite completing it. Bout to hit lvl 62 and plan on fleshing out a volt and ice team. I hope ToF will bring me joy for a long time because I love the game.
The thumbnails only reminds me of blackpink rosé other solo song
I loved this games since day 1 until about two days ago when I said to myself this game is good and all but why should I play this game when I have genshin(and I loved this game so much that I have a nemesis and Frigg C1 and have bought the BP)
Edit: I forgot to mention that I have also maxed out my friggs gift point(4k) and upgraded it to lvl 120
The Guilty Gear music caught me off guard lol. I certainly didn't expect story mode music in this review
I wonder what were the red flags that made you jump ship from Punishing Gray Raven. I mean, I enjoy the game and I thing that the positive outweighs the negative at least for me. I'm curious.
It was all the controversies at launch. The main one being that global players got less black cards then cn players in the beginner tasks. It's been a while so I don't fully remember the controversies but they were enough to make me stop playing. The game itself is amazing though.
oh boy yeap pgr global launch was a mess in like the first month or so. Where do I begin lets see here...
As he said, you get less BC that was in starter quests/checklists/milestone but in return you get a free skin which CN didn't have which sparked some dissatisfaction among others.
And then theres the RC packs which are priced slightly expensive than the CN & JP, their reason was because of Google charge rate or something (im not sure), and its RC amount is either a little less (28 RC) or bit more (34RC) which felt problematic for people to purchase the monthly plan A which costs (30 RC), literally in the middle, theres no RC pack that sells exactly 30RC.
Which then followed up by next disaster, where a discord mod mocked the community saying something like "cant you spent a bit of money on that lmao" (somewhere along those lines) which resulted in their PGR discord shutting down for a few days, (probably almost a week even?) to fix this whole debacle.
After a few days, the said mod was later removed/ban, and their remedy to the monthly plan was not to change any of the original prices but instead they came up with another monthly plan, plan C, similar to monthly plan A but you get less BC which costs 28RC.
And finally iirc, the next one was the uh first small event with a gacha skin, where you have to play a slot machine to obtain random stuff (mats, an icon, memories, etc) and among them is one of the rare skins which is impossible for f2p to get (of course) but problematic enough for p2w people too because well its in a gacha system. F2p got like 3-5 pulls per day, to pull more you have to spent some real currency on it. Until you reach the certain pity or lucky enough to get the rare skin.
So yeah 😐
It was very bad launch in the beginning.
But as a day 1 player i can say the game is doing good now, every update makes the game better and better. And also have thes best gacha pity system so far than any other gacha games imo. So yeah, if you want to hop in now, better sooner than later because you'll missed out all those 100% rate up banners and they're limited time per event only lol
@@Kulgia I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
I just recently started playing it actually. I enjoy it a lot. And my first impression are mostly positive so I was surprised that there were controversies back then.
@@Tsunul thanks for responding!
I quit PGR as well though not for the reasons you have. I quit it for the same reasons as I have with HI 3rd. It is an episodic type of game and I hate those (Except for Arknights crazily enough).
I was hoping for an open world Sci-fi which I finally got in Tower of Fantasy in contrast to Genshin Impact's more fantasy like aesthetics.
Sure that ToF is crude in everything but 8 hope it will get polished.
Does anyone know the chinese music playing in the background during the fantasia explanation?
It's Mirafleur Hall from Tower of Fantasy.
Still waiting for Wuthering Waves and Arknights Endfield.
My guy right here.
Waiting for Wuthering waves aswell
they not only copied a weapon model from honkai but even icon(s) and didnt bother to remove word valkyria written on it
I had high hopes for this game and it showed a lot of potential. I hoped it would be a "genshin killer" or at least good competition. It feels very unpolished and rushed and very janky to play
to be fair, genshin paid millions to make the game smooth, to be atlesst take it down means they have to spend hundreds of millions as well
"Genshin killer" is kinda optimistic since genshin had such a big budget that Mihoyo took a gamble on and it paid off very well. A good competitor would've been better
Fair review, glad you like the game! :)
A lot of the issues in the game seems to have been fixed or at least as far as my playthrough went there was no more time gate on the chests and the like. Still have the occasional cutscene issues but i don't really mind that part. It's fun and i get to explore plenty. Combat feels fast paced and smooth. The game has plenty of potential and while i wouldn't call it a genshin killer and it defenitely shouldn't aim to become one it should stand on it's own. The rolls are fairly generous and since right now there's a very limited pool of characters you can get almost all of them relatively easily.
Can't remember where the music at around 3:00 is from, I definitely heard it before. Help please?
Berserk opening Tell Me Why - By Penpals.
@@Tsunul Thanks!
The game is doing pretty well on global in terms of revenue. It was in the top 20 on the play store last week
Yeah when I heard meant to be I fell in love with it too the only thing that's stopping me from fully enjoy the game is the animations and the voice cuts in story
I really REALLY disagree with the f2p friendly part, by your calculations you need more than 3 months for one single ssr unit guarenteed because you need 120 rolls in or you cant roll as f2p because your flame gold gets shafted to the standard banner.
120 rolls for 120 flame gold is an overstatement.
Since getting all your SRs makes them convert themselves into the respective draw's gold currency(black gold on standard and flame on limited). And SRs are GUARANTEED every 10 pull(except black nuc draw*), so technically in 100 pulls you can have more than 110 flame gold(depending on your luck). Which means it takes around 10 or more draws less than 120 to get an exchange-ensured limited SSR character/weapon.
nah, the game is very friendly, when it comes to give you SSR, but ITS NOT when it comes to give the one YOU want.
Random one? they give you pretty easily, but the one you want? keep dreaming :D there is no sure pity like genshin that if you fail 1 the next is the one you want 100% , no.. here you just don't get the unit if you're not lucky , simple as that.
@@WastedTalent83 To get the one you want is not hard. Saving for the 120 hard pity is the same as saving for the 100% pity in genshin.
@@0-0-255repertorium You are actually right i forgot about this.
@@marcuszyrus2189 Probably true what annoys me tho its that its an mmo, and having dupes doesnt just give you more damage or utility it actually directly impacts your score. So for it to be worth it you need it to reach 6 stars or youll lose a ton of GS and will be stuck with the standard characters. Like is it worth it to replace a 6 star zero for a 3 star nemesis even? nope your score goes down by ALOT.
16:38 what is the name of this website please
I’m going to be real
As a dolphin player/near whale player from Genshin Impact.
I used to be SO IN LOVE WITH IT because the story was interesting…. At first.
The unfortunate part of the game was that they made SO MANY characters that I wanted so badly! So the addiction and summoning made me feel so held back for not having one unit that turned out was only a niche needed unit for the upcoming content.
Once I caught up to the game story and maps just to not be left behind, I was so burnt out to the point I get so exhausted just playing the game. Funny enough, it got worse when I needed to farm for the artifacts just to keep up with damage in the content. Of course with the less abundant exp mats to help raise my characters all made it to and overly excessive grind.
I still love their characters and some aspects of the story since I love writing my own stories for fun So getting inspirations and ideas that could be worked on.
It was the RNG Artifact farming that drained me so badly.
The moment I saw the Tower of Fantasy ad
I was HELL NO that looks so dumb. However, being so burnt from Genshin and still itching for open world. I downloaded it and tried it.
The moment I saw I can create a character I was hooked, the story threw me off but the gameplay, the gacha, and all of that was available in game was different and enjoyable
I love the game and I can accept the issues and red flags, but “a Genshin clone” is the one thing this game is NOT because Genshin is the last thing that should talk about or call other games “clones” or “copies”
You're very entertaining and making great points! Subscribed!
ToF combat is terrible compared to Genshin in ToF you only attack and dash when you see a red light in Genshin you have to use skills correctly to cause the right reactions and learn enemy attacks to dodge them
liking ToF's combat but not Genshin's says a lot about you
mobile legends was hated so much that our country threatens it to be banned.
But look at it now. it was the most played game here. but back in the day no ones want to play it coz it was a copy cat of an successful online game before it. just like Genshin and TOF . i can see the resemblance, and the key for its success is to be more accessible for everybody. So to every gamers, lets encourage developers and company to do more. coz we as players would greatly benefits if they do their jobs with lovely encouragement from the people who plays and spends for them to earn.
MORE like BOTW and GI but TOF... it's apparently "Dying"
I played it since it's launch, pulled a lot of gacha, got tons of ssr in just 2 weeks. But even though it was really glitchy in the beginning, I gave it a chance since it was a new game. Then i patiently waited for genshin 3.0 update. Since it has smoother gameplay, i thought I'd jump right back in and wander around sumeru. So when the update came I pulled for zongli, spent ALL the primos that I grinded and saved for MONTHS, and then lost the 50/50. Went back to ToF after that. At least it doesn't give me so much heartache and is f2p friendly. I got just two 5star character after playing genshin for months, I don't really like that now, you're either a whale or a prawn.
yep im on Cestus always cos of song "meant to be" and good starting point for daily
easy fix, uninstall tof and go play genshin
How can you hate your personal chef? (Mia/Mi-a)
They called Tower of Theft in china with a reason.
They copied everything.
Sadly I can't expect too much from a game, which is copies even their stories.
The story of this game is so bad, because it's copied from games too. Sirli/Nemesis story is a copy of Honkai Kiana/HoV story line and we can continue.
Now they mass produce new updates, because they can milk the hypetrain as long as it goes, but if someone knows only a little bit about game development, that should know that this not goes for long. Within a year, this game has so many copy right issues, it'll bankrupt, or if not, they will run out of content, and give less (and lower quality) content in longer time than Genshin.
Ok I've heard of the asset theft at the start of the game's development but never did I heard that the WHOLE game is copied. Like never. Also the "copied Kiana story" is bullshit. First of all the stories are actually only vaguely similar and second of all bro it's just a trope. There is a lot of them in writing and that's okay!
Exploration frustrated me so much , the cooldown on the jetpack is something like 2 minutes ! So there was me standing idle for that time so I can continue exploring -.- I play on mobile so couldn't really do the hop climb thing.
Jetpack thing is relatable especially before you get the grapling hook. But you can actually hop climb on mobile by pressing unclimb followed by double jump coupled with moving your analog towards the surface you are climbing. Hope this helps.