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  • @jeez_factsbro6595
    @jeez_factsbro6595 9 місяців тому +111

    The plaintiff’s text messages though. What a professional

  • @cheyanne8335
    @cheyanne8335 9 місяців тому +134

    He did something illegal, lost the car, has to pay back $4k+, didn’t learn anything and is arrogant AF. Great guy.

  • @amandabrown6565
    @amandabrown6565 9 місяців тому +109

    I don't think the plaintiff understood anything about forgery. I don't think he purposely signed the other man's name to defraud the system, he just didn't understand what he was supposed to do.

    • @Crazycatlady71
      @Crazycatlady71 9 місяців тому +14

      I agree. He thought it was just part of the process so he could get a clean title.

    • @TheDjunknwn
      @TheDjunknwn 9 місяців тому

      R❤❤❤❤❤❤e weer❤tf re d weer weer rd

    • @gonegirldiaries
      @gonegirldiaries 9 місяців тому +2

      I agree

    • @juniord2789
      @juniord2789 9 місяців тому +1

      True but I think he did know about the forgery because he said in the text he didn’t want to sign at first

  • @themadmillionaire
    @themadmillionaire 9 місяців тому +125

    Unfortunately the plaintiff got played, I don’t think he went into this to cut corners, he just wanted a great price and to do business with his people. Happy You Won 👩🏿‍⚖️

  • @rosegold_7
    @rosegold_7 9 місяців тому +119

    “Justice delayed is not justice denied” well said. That was a word!

    • @RuthieMartinez
      @RuthieMartinez 9 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @kirkmo1666
      @kirkmo1666 9 місяців тому +1

      What you know about "that word"...

    • @rachelrobertson346
      @rachelrobertson346 9 місяців тому

      @@kirkmo1666huh

    • @jameshuntsman6046
      @jameshuntsman6046 9 місяців тому

      @@kirkmo1666 "Justice delayed is justice denied" is a legal maxim. It means that if legal redress or equitable relief to an injured party is available, but is not forthcoming in a timely fashion, it is effectively the same as having no remedy at all.
      This principle is the basis for the right to a speedy trial and similar rights which are meant to expedite the legal system, because of the unfairness for the injured party who sustained the injury having little hope for timely and effective remedy and resolution. The phrase has become a rallying cry for legal reformers who view courts, tribunals, judges, arbitrators, administrative law judges, commissions[A] or governments as acting too slowly in resolving legal issues - either because the case is too complex, the existing system is too complex or overburdened, or because the issue or party in question lacks political favour. Individual cases may be affected by judicial hesitancy to make a decision. Statutes and court rules have tried to control the tendency; and judges may be subject to oversight and even discipline for persistent failures to decide matters timely, or accurately report their backlog. When a court takes a matter "under advisement" - awaiting the issue of a judicial opinion, order or judgement and forestalls final adjudication of a lawsuit or resolution of a motion - the issue of timeliness of the decision(s) comes into play.
      There are conflicting accounts of who first noted the phrase.

  • @perfectlyimperfect9129
    @perfectlyimperfect9129 9 місяців тому +42

    16:40 The nerve of him to say that the judge doesn't know everything, She knows the law he's a dirty scammer!!

    • @aaronjesse6241
      @aaronjesse6241 9 місяців тому +5

      This is classic Nigerian! 😂 He said the judge doesn’t know what she is talking about! Lol He thinks she is wrong though! Hahahahahahaha
      Lol! Being Nigerian, this reminds me of my family gatherings. Am argument can be endless regardless of facts! Lol

  • @robertlaschever3935
    @robertlaschever3935 9 місяців тому +236

    The defendant is a total scammer, and not a very bright one at that.

    • @rationalbushcraft
      @rationalbushcraft 9 місяців тому +10

      I'm surprised he didn't claim he was a Nigerian Prince.

    • @davidperez5089
      @davidperez5089 9 місяців тому +2

      He came in cocky af, struttin like he's Lawrence fishbourne in the king of New York.

    • @AfricanAmericanBeau
      @AfricanAmericanBeau 9 місяців тому

      Most Nigerians are 😂😂. Sorry lol

    • @melissalsmith883
      @melissalsmith883 8 місяців тому +1

      i haven’t watched yet but lol’d at your comment 😂

    • @davidperez5089
      @davidperez5089 8 місяців тому

      @@melissalsmith883 send me a rating after viewing. It's a classic from that era.

  • @only1vita
    @only1vita 9 місяців тому +36

    I don’t think the Plaintiff understood about signing the title. He looked legit confused about it. And the defendant played off of that. I’m glad the defendant got his money back. He legit was trying to do business with his ppl and instead got scammed.

  • @allegroaffettuoso9012
    @allegroaffettuoso9012 9 місяців тому +17

    Clearly the plaintiff is new to the country and didn’t understand what was going on, but the Defendant has been here a while and thought he found a sucked who he could scam. Glad the judge understood that and undid the deal and gave the plaintiff all his money back. Also, the Plaintiff is very well-spoken and educated and did a very good job of getting a paper trail so he could pursue it. Good for him.

  • @Dapperbugbear
    @Dapperbugbear 9 місяців тому +72

    The defendants day job is sending out emails that he is a Nigerian prince and you can have his money if you send him a little money first.

  • @dfa3366
    @dfa3366 9 місяців тому +67

    This is the Nigerian edition of Who’s on First.

    • @de2296
      @de2296 9 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @dianedobson1104
      @dianedobson1104 9 місяців тому +3

      No there’s a book out called, “Nigerian Scammers Handbook”.

    • @p.o.p2077
      @p.o.p2077 9 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @jacquelineakintobi1881
      @jacquelineakintobi1881 9 місяців тому +2

      That’s why I tell my Husband be careful of his own People 😂

    • @shelberz1
      @shelberz1 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes

  • @HTAnderson76
    @HTAnderson76 9 місяців тому +62

    So the Defendant jumped title and then accused the Plaintiff of being a Scammer? 🤣

  • @KMoscato
    @KMoscato 9 місяців тому +15

    It’s the lady in blue laughing and embarrassed for them for me 😭😭😭

  • @HotCave
    @HotCave 9 місяців тому +20

    Look at my Nigerian brothers 😂😂😂, this happens a lot among Nigerians, when one guy who’s been in the states longer than the other Nigerian tries to trick him into doing some not so legal shit (cus that’s how we role in Nigeria), and from their accents you can tell which one has been in the states longer lol,

  • @paganmonster
    @paganmonster 9 місяців тому +7

    Those guys are really good at texting

  • @marjorybruno
    @marjorybruno 9 місяців тому +11

    Vocabulary!!! That’s one thing a Nigerian will have!! ❤

    • @rosegold_7
      @rosegold_7 8 місяців тому

      Yes Ma’am! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Gandrewjm
    @Gandrewjm 9 місяців тому +52

    I'm pretty sure that the defendant is the Nigerian prince who keeps sending emails offering me a 50% share of his multi-million dollars inheritance. All I have to do is send him $200 for legal fees 🙄

  • @biancalathetravelerssoul
    @biancalathetravelerssoul 9 місяців тому +27

    "Clean title" 😂😂😂 ummm no!

  • @suade9940
    @suade9940 8 місяців тому +1

    👏👏👏 Glad the plaintiff won!

  • @jeniferburton5235
    @jeniferburton5235 9 місяців тому +9

    3:09 The Judge's expression was classic. 😂

  • @jessewilson-music
    @jessewilson-music 9 місяців тому +2

    I love how fearless Douglas is! I'm waiting for the episode where he finally just squares up with somebody to throw hands 😂
    He seems like he would definitely fight dirty. Lol

  • @lellensmanuel
    @lellensmanuel 9 місяців тому +14

    Their text messages sound like literature.

  • @talexander2302
    @talexander2302 9 місяців тому +2

    I legit don't think the plaintiff knew he was forging the signature..glad he won

  • @amberthomas3939
    @amberthomas3939 8 місяців тому +3

    I hope the plaintiff stays far, far away from the defendant

  • @msfranklin2650
    @msfranklin2650 9 місяців тому +9

    ALTHOUGH A REPEAT THE DEFENDANT IS A LIAR & SCAMMER. I FELT SORRY FOR THE PLAINTIFF BOTTOM LINE JUST HAPPY HE'S GETTING HIS $$$ RETURNED

  • @tiffanynelson8285
    @tiffanynelson8285 9 місяців тому +23

    Halfway listening to this I'm like the good old AFRICAN SCAM😂😂😂the defendant tried to wipe his hands of the situation but got bit at the end 🤷🏾‍♀️ glad the plaintiff got his money back despite what he did wrong listening to the defendant.

  • @K_Cole0128
    @K_Cole0128 9 місяців тому +2

    The defendant understands he’s wrong and doesn’t want to pay. He should’ve paid the plaintiff and kept this off air. It made him look bad.

  • @teairathomas663
    @teairathomas663 9 місяців тому +7

    He try to play him and got played. I'm glad the he brought it to court and the judge ruled in his favor because what the defendant did was scammed... It is rules and regulation to that auction stuff and the fact that he's cutting corners with them isn't going to turnout well...

  • @hakimstjeanblot2847
    @hakimstjeanblot2847 9 місяців тому +22

    It’s frustrating that she doesn’t acknowledge that people from outside the United States obviously don’t understand every rule and law IN the United States.

    • @teacupmagick7030
      @teacupmagick7030 9 місяців тому +7

      It's a person's duty when they enter another country to know about the laws and regulations of that particular country - that goes for anybody anywhere.

    • @kathiepg6497
      @kathiepg6497 9 місяців тому +12

      Most people inside the US don't understand most rules and laws either!!

    • @kandi668
      @kandi668 9 місяців тому +3

      Just cause you don’t understand the law doesn’t mean you’re exempt from abiding by the law.

    • @gregshell8570
      @gregshell8570 4 місяці тому +1

      No way, everyone has to learn. And by the way, I don't know every law in the usa. When I want to know, I ask someone who knows.

  • @rgalv3
    @rgalv3 9 місяців тому +25

    Defendant was not trying to answer lol

  • @keyona533
    @keyona533 9 місяців тому +5

    Shame on you the defendant tried to take advantage of him, thinking he don't know

  • @Dino23124
    @Dino23124 9 місяців тому +25

    Wowwwww… a Nigerian scammer? Who could have guessed.

  • @AriesGem04
    @AriesGem04 9 місяців тому +30

    Sounds like the defendant is a crook!!

  • @kingoffarts8352
    @kingoffarts8352 9 місяців тому +15

    The planiff looks like Eddie Winslow from family matters.

  • @EdKaneInternationalMale
    @EdKaneInternationalMale 9 місяців тому +3

    I’ve never seen the judge be confused before. This is a first. LOL

  • @ABALLAM3
    @ABALLAM3 9 місяців тому +8

    14:32 this is the first time since 2011 that I have seen Milian smack down the gavel during a trial. Wow! That happened so rarely in the latest seasons of this show.

    • @elisapierre-procope9177
      @elisapierre-procope9177 9 місяців тому

      I was about to say she seems really upset at this case and I’m not sure why.

  • @VGMis06
    @VGMis06 9 місяців тому +2

    Omg the defendant smh just because you have been getting cars like that doesn't make it right. 🤦‍♀️

  • @nismoj14
    @nismoj14 9 місяців тому +12

    Deji’s ears would be burning 😂

  • @catherinesisk4369
    @catherinesisk4369 9 місяців тому +23

    The defendant is the Nigerian prince. 😂

    • @michelleharper2940
      @michelleharper2940 9 місяців тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣 came here to say this!

    • @ud558
      @ud558 9 місяців тому

      Your sarcastic comment 🙄

  • @knighttyme1976
    @knighttyme1976 9 місяців тому +2

    Called “Jumping Title”
    Should never fly in court. Keeps people from stealing cars and selling them without an interest.
    Very common for children trying to sell a car in their parent’s name without their permission.
    🤦🏾‍♂️
    Good catch Judge!

  • @kimr282
    @kimr282 9 місяців тому +5

    I hope the show sent this case directly to the local police. They were both dumb enough to publicly use their names and give details about where they live/ do business on the show.

  • @Alesana907
    @Alesana907 9 місяців тому +7

    Damn this might of been the case heard right after JM was told that the show was ending 😯😯 she gave him the most money she has given in a while even with unclean hands

    • @dunkinjunkie5868
      @dunkinjunkie5868 9 місяців тому +2

      Yep 😬

    • @virgo7956
      @virgo7956 9 місяців тому +1

      He didn't have a clean title from the start! That's reason enough

  • @syw9882
    @syw9882 9 місяців тому +2

    😢 He really didn’t understand that he was signing in place of Deji. It’s obvious the defendant told him some foolishness & convinced the plaintiff that he was just documenting the person with the dealers license. Defendant is a scumbag who took advantage of the plaintiff’s ignorance of the process.
    The plaintiff needs to go and unregister his name from that title IMMEDIATELY! If there’s an accident or any other crime involving that vehicle he is still responsible until he does so.

  • @brittneyjake2010
    @brittneyjake2010 9 місяців тому +1

    Dang when did they start scamming each other..I love the verdict and the statement "guess what your car is towed" 😢😅

  • @latricebrown7942
    @latricebrown7942 9 місяців тому +2

    "The judge doesn't know everything" 🤣🤣
    In other words, on to the next scam

  • @Sasha-71
    @Sasha-71 9 місяців тому +20

    Who doesn’t love doug 16:30 😂😂😂 love it

    • @MrBroadcast45
      @MrBroadcast45 9 місяців тому +1

      I can’t stand Doug he isn’t funny

    • @Sasha-71
      @Sasha-71 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MrBroadcast45 🤣😂 thanks for sharing

    • @Leonrey-ic1wh
      @Leonrey-ic1wh 9 місяців тому +1

      He doesn't have to be. He's a boss like Bob Ross.

    • @zuritribe4844
      @zuritribe4844 9 місяців тому +1

      LOVE IT!!!

    • @seantimmons5900
      @seantimmons5900 9 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@MrBroadcast45Doug is a beast. Broadcast that.

  • @EnigmaShauna
    @EnigmaShauna 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm astonished by their blatant deception and thinking it's perfectly acceptable.

  • @ten1225
    @ten1225 9 місяців тому +1

    I knew the defendant was shady when he was smiling in the beginning of the case😂😂😂😂

  • @davidlumley6103
    @davidlumley6103 9 місяців тому +1

    If I was in the audience during the forgery part, I would’ve got kicked out for screaming laughter

  • @jlywi7171
    @jlywi7171 9 місяців тому +3

    This was the most confusing case I’ve ever seen.. I had to watch it twice and I still have no idea what they’re talking about

  • @Jessman15
    @Jessman15 9 місяців тому +1

    Yeah the defendant took advantage of his friend being gullible

  • @FishHeadsIV
    @FishHeadsIV 9 місяців тому +1

    I am so sick of these backyard dealers. Shady AF. This guy sells tons of hooptys

  • @gregshell8570
    @gregshell8570 4 місяці тому +1

    Defendant is a con man!!

  • @wandabellamy6120
    @wandabellamy6120 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm just here for the comments & so glad we have Freedom of Speech and Opportunities.#I LOVE AMERICA 🌺

  • @Hatokirei
    @Hatokirei 9 місяців тому +1

    "I didn't forge, I just wrote his name there." had me cracking up

    • @syw9882
      @syw9882 9 місяців тому +1

      He really didn’t understand that he was signing in place of Deji. It’s obvious the defendant told him some foolishness & convinced the plaintiff that he was just documenting the person with the dealers license. Defendant is a scumbag who took advantage of the plaintiff’s ignorance of the process.

  • @amyann13
    @amyann13 9 місяців тому +8

    Hey I found the Nigerian Prince that keeps emailing me about diamonds & gold bars!! 😂😂😂

  • @carlalocklear2418
    @carlalocklear2418 9 місяців тому +3

    That was a very confusing case, but Judge Milian is so smart she figured it out. You’re not getting over on her.

    • @kandi668
      @kandi668 9 місяців тому +1

      I wasn’t confused at all. I knew the plaintiff was dealing with a scammer from the very beginning.

  • @nyekapage7045
    @nyekapage7045 9 місяців тому +4

    Dude is a scammer I feel for the plaintiff because he seems innocent but he's lucky the judge even heard him out

  • @K_Cole0128
    @K_Cole0128 9 місяців тому +1

    The plaintiff should’ve asked to be reimbursed for both bus rides to NH for the tittle.

  • @AC081361
    @AC081361 9 місяців тому +4

    Dust got in the gas tank 😂😂😂 The judge slayed on this one.

  • @hottubtimemachine1200
    @hottubtimemachine1200 9 місяців тому +1

    Yah, I’m buying of a car with a co-buyer…NOT! The plaintiff was scammed by a TOTAL NIGERIAN SCAMMER. He got tired of scamming lonely people on certain websites now the defendant is scamming other Nigerian people. I feel bad for people scamming by people like this. And by no means am I saying scammers only come from one country. All scammers, catfishing, lazy losers come from everywhere. I’m glad the plaintiff won. Defendant is going to scam the wrong person and end up on the First 48, not the people’s court.

  • @kimt8795
    @kimt8795 9 місяців тому +1

    😮 it’s bizarre how the defendant didn’t think he was wrong ???

  • @roni2977
    @roni2977 9 місяців тому +4

    The plaintiff comes across as a really decent man who got dragged into a bad situation because he tried to do business with his own people. The defendant on the other hand is obviously a scammer who thinks he's in Nigeria and can get away with it... I wonder how many victims suffered his scams

  • @amandasaunders3493
    @amandasaunders3493 9 місяців тому +2

    They are just so used to dealing with people who do not care about things being legal because their usual customers are illegal themselves. As long as they have transportation, who cares who is on the paperwork? The "owner of the account" probably isn't even in the country.

    • @kandi668
      @kandi668 9 місяців тому +1

      No, Demi was there. He was just out in the car and couldn’t come in.

  • @r1verman
    @r1verman 9 місяців тому +2

    Immigration might need to take a look at that defendant. Criminals should not be allowed to stay in this country.

  • @WesleyLindsey
    @WesleyLindsey 9 місяців тому +2

    Little man, little dignity

  • @skyzthalimit7004
    @skyzthalimit7004 9 місяців тому +1

    When scammers get scammed.

  • @deshaylasmith3518
    @deshaylasmith3518 9 місяців тому +1

    The scammer is getting kick out of it he is evil

  • @itscollysworld1389
    @itscollysworld1389 9 місяців тому +1

    Judge killin the pronunciation

  • @kirkmo1666
    @kirkmo1666 9 місяців тому +1

    The defendant is a awful person. Absolutely pathetic

  • @peppertaylor7693
    @peppertaylor7693 9 місяців тому +1

    CoPart does not allow license sharing. That man needs to be reported.

    • @johnpeters9793
      @johnpeters9793 9 місяців тому

      COPART could not care less, as long as they get their money...if they don't, they charge a % of the winning bid that the dealer is responsible for.....and copart will not release titles/paperwork until those fees are caught up.
      Copart also charges a daily storage fee if the car is not picked up.
      A dealer will give multiple people their code to bid, and the winner has to pay doc fees to that dealer to process the DMV paperwork.
      @ $300 a pop, it can get pretty lucrative....

  • @funyunlove
    @funyunlove 9 місяців тому +1

    Do they really get their money back after these shows

  • @JakeS-n9n
    @JakeS-n9n 9 місяців тому +2

    You can go to any auction and buy a car. You don't need no liscense. Where I'm at there's consignment auctions with vehicles all the time and anyone can buy them

    • @teacupmagick7030
      @teacupmagick7030 9 місяців тому +4

      The issue here is the defendant was doing it illegally under someone else's account and someone else's legal name. He wasn't legally doing it under his own name.

  • @christophernunn77
    @christophernunn77 9 місяців тому

    Called it 10 seconds in! 😂

  • @Skarpay516
    @Skarpay516 9 місяців тому +2

    Everyone is saying “Nigerian Scammer” like the guy who refused to partake in fraud wasn’t also Nigerian….

  • @ashb7846
    @ashb7846 9 місяців тому

    I like the way the plaintiff answers with, “He’s Nigerian,” as how they know each other, as if everyone from a certain country always knows the other 😂 Hey, fellow Americans, we’re all carpooling to the barbecue this weekend, right?”

  • @MatthewAndrade-q3g
    @MatthewAndrade-q3g 2 місяці тому

    Could you imagine being scammed by your own people, (a dose of their medicine) on a Nissan… 😂😂😂

  • @KayB-l5h
    @KayB-l5h 9 місяців тому

    Whether they're in the right or wrong. It rude AF to tell an adult to shut up no matter who has authority. Good ruling tho.

  • @DJMookieJukebox
    @DJMookieJukebox 9 місяців тому

    “ I didn’t forge anything! “
    “ I just signed his name! “ 👀💀

  • @cbro2807
    @cbro2807 9 місяців тому

    Wow that was a close one. 👀

  • @brigidgilhooly3492
    @brigidgilhooly3492 9 місяців тому

    Into a lot of things 😂

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 9 місяців тому +9

    Title: My Country Man Stabbed Me In The Back
    Me:😂😅😂

  • @madmaxofspokane1691
    @madmaxofspokane1691 9 місяців тому +2

    The defendant is a moron if he actually thinks that acting as an imposter to use use another person's dealership license is totally legal if he was given permission. He has to have been forging the dealer's signature for every vehicle that he's purchased.

  • @sosobeautiful7
    @sosobeautiful7 9 місяців тому +1

    Lol still watching but the defendant must know if you sale a certain amount of vehicles per year you must register as a dealer

  • @nae1470
    @nae1470 9 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone notice the guy on the streets shirt promoting Filipino girls? It seemed rather strange knowing that a lot of these "girls "are underage.

    • @Donna-l3b
      @Donna-l3b 3 місяці тому

      He felt foolish wearing "Chomo" across his chest

  • @manarcabrera2528
    @manarcabrera2528 3 місяці тому

    This is crazy.

  • @LoveNicolette.
    @LoveNicolette. 9 місяців тому

    Imagine coming to America, saying in the intro that the plaintiff doesn’t get how America works, goes on to doing shady stuff, gets caught and then say that the American Judge doesn’t know what she’s talking about. 😂

  • @smash2122
    @smash2122 9 місяців тому

    I was half expecting Harvey to say "Nigeria? He hardly knew her" in his intro

  • @nathanderover6929
    @nathanderover6929 9 місяців тому +1

    Take a shot every time they say Dedji Mustafa.

  • @melodyhigh7245
    @melodyhigh7245 9 місяців тому +1

    They all scamming

  • @siemelle
    @siemelle 9 місяців тому

    when halfway through she’s asking who Deji is again 😂😂😂 after already talking about him for 5mins 😭

  • @finally97
    @finally97 9 місяців тому

    It always amazes me when a defendant loses and says that the judge doesn't know everything. Do tell.🤔 What did she miss?

  • @shellwilliams6306
    @shellwilliams6306 9 місяців тому

    I wonder how many other crimes, not litigated by JMM have been uncovered in her court🤔🤔🤔 There's LOTS OF SCETCHY CHARACTERS 🤣

  • @sharifsalem
    @sharifsalem 4 місяці тому

    I feel so sorry for this plaintiff. Such a decent guy and the shark defendant is trying to gaslight everybody.

  • @le0854
    @le0854 9 місяців тому +13

    I think both of them had unclean hands

    • @joshuaonevnine
      @joshuaonevnine 9 місяців тому +6

      I dont really think the plantiff totally understood everything that was happening though. Hoping im not being to naive. 😊

    • @teairathomas663
      @teairathomas663 9 місяців тому +3

      The only reason why he had unclean hands is because he didn't fully understand the DMV process which is why the judge ruled in his favor.. The defendant was the real scammer with the real unclean hands and really did care by the way he answered in the hallway...

    • @dunkinjunkie5868
      @dunkinjunkie5868 9 місяців тому

      You think 🤔

  • @kia4334
    @kia4334 9 місяців тому +1

    He’s a liar

  • @daniellebrint2913
    @daniellebrint2913 9 місяців тому

    Wow!! Smh

  • @thebookwasbetter3650
    @thebookwasbetter3650 9 місяців тому +1

    stereotypes:
    1. a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

  • @yandjproductions6526
    @yandjproductions6526 9 місяців тому

    Folks kill me coming on judge shows admitting fraud. It's hilarious

  • @kcblues4855
    @kcblues4855 9 місяців тому

    There’s laws and people trying to get round the law.