@@nanjones3973as someone who has a restraining order against a stalker I had ZERO relationship with. Who still contacts me. It doesn't mean a damn thing. Police don't give a fuck about women in danger. That order is just a piece of paper.
She should have gotten every penny she was asking for. The move was a direct consequence of his drunk crazy behavior. She should have gotten him arrested and gotten the restraining order as well.
Women do not give up the men they're in love with. That's.why the police can't do anything. It's frustrating to them to have their hands tied by someone who won't follow through when they've called the police.
She didn’t present her case well enough to have won that portion of her case. If she had something from the landlord stating that they’re refusing to renew her lease due to that incident, then she probably would have gotten it. She would also have to prove there were no other factors affecting the renewal. She made the choice to move, which is not the same thing as being forced to move due to that event. She also didn’t get a restraining order which weakened her argument that she moved out of fear. Especially since she continued friendly communication with him after.
The fact that he waited until all the guests left before showing out says A LOT. He doesn’t confront men because he’d loose. (Also: This case screams, “The BEAR…I choose the BEAR”! 😂)
Especially since he is a military veteran.. they have a lot of mental challenges. Signed a military brat & ex military spouse- both have severe ptsd. They are hell.
Her not filing for a restraining order or having him arrested was THEE reason why she wasn't awarded her moving costs. She didn't take him seriously when she should have at the moment, so why should the judge?
ngl ma'am is kinda pissing me off by 10:30. i just feel like y'all play too damn much behind men & threats. the police are OFFERING to arrest a lunatic who has already told you that he will shoot you and/or light your vehicle on fire. but oh no! "i'm so scared!" GIRL DO SOMETHING! it's giving "i didn't wanna put no black man in jail!" 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Girl, absolutely!!! She didn’t have his keys what if she didn’t find them. She should have gotten the restraining order and then if he threatened or came by he goes to jail and he doesn’t keep his gun!
Trying to be objective about it, I said maybe she didn’t move on them arresting him that night because I can imagine that feels like a temporary fix that may only further enrage someone who’s already threatening you. Now, the restraining order - DEFINITELY.
Wow. I'm glad that she handled him the way she did on that night. He was SO out of line. I hope that he actually is as sorry as he seems to be now, and that he gets help.
They’re still talking holding conversations. If she was really scarred for her life she would’ve cut him off moved and then sued him. She was still meeting with him after it happened because she returned the tickets. Judge saw she was an opportunist that tried to maximize on the idea of her getting to move as she said the police notified her it may be an opportunity to get out the lease. That’s what made it weaker.
But did she get a restraining order? No. If I’m fearful I’m buying a gun and pressing charges. She’s still friends with him. Obviously she’s not that scared.
If she stopped speaking to him, filed the restraining order, moved, and then sued him her case would have been stronger. I don’t think it was a good idea to entertain him after he threatened to come back with a gun. That was crazy. She’s talking about needing him to pay. Uh, you’re risking your life for $1,000? That’s crazy
He’s crazy. Restraining order wouldn’t stop a bullet. I would’ve had him arrested and me my child would’ve been gone! She prolly would’ve won more. Because she stayed and continued to correspond with him - that’s cray cray too.
This case is bothering me. The fact that he threatened to pull a gun on her and smashed in her door seem to all be forgiven by the Judge and the plaintiff. Women die every day at the hands of intimate partners and these are warning signs. She should not stay friends with him; even to say hi and bye. She should steer clear of him and never talk to him again.
What do you want the judge to do? The police saw the kicked in door, text message regarding getting a gun, etc... She chose to not get a restraining order, to not have him arrested, etc... The judge told her she should have done both.
Honestly listening to him talk, he comes off like an Alcoholic 😢 I’m glad she made the judgement to dismiss him. Usually us women want to forgive and ignore the red flags 🚩 bless this woman’s heart ❤️
I can almost bet that the defendant showed signs of crazy waaay before spades night, and it wasnt the first time he called her out her name. If this was the first time she wouldn't have felt the need to ininvite him to the after party,but she knew from previous dealings that he was going to be a problem. Ladies! Once a so called man shows you who he is the first time keep it moving. I cant even see what she saw in him in the first place...uggggh
She definitely should have gotten the money she paid to break her lease. She should have gotten the restraining order, but his actions were absolutely threatening and terrifying.
I'm glad she left this man, he is very dangerous. If you can't hold your liquor Sir, don't drink. Grown folks should know better, but apparently not for him...
The judge sensed that and that is why she did not receive the moving amount…if she would have followed through with the authorities she would have received everything that she asked for.
@@dagerldemsuga it’s more of having his anger & whatnot documented and on paper! That way if it ever escalates to the point of her defending herself.. there’s a paper trail
She didn’t do what the police officer said because she knew she was going to let him back in and continue the relationship with him! One reason why I don’t sympathize for anyone in these kind of relationship. They know how violent and crazy that person is but continue to be with them when they already know he or she is never going to change. It kills me more when they surround and expose their kids to their unhealthy relationship.
Where in the case did you hear they got back together? And didn't you hear the judge say get advice from a lawyer and not the police? I guess not! Smh. That's how lies start. Be careful.
Stop trying to reason with a drunk. After she got him outside of the apartment she should've dealt with him from a distance. It's no way I would've helped him look for keys (i.e.night/day) after his ultra-sensitive mood, kicking my door and cursing me out. Like him, she needs to mature more especially since she's a parent. Also, she was laughing periodically as she reminisced over that foolish night. No wonder the judge took it light on him. What great qualities to look for in a mate. [Insert double dunce award here!]
I hate that women play with their lives like this. Ladies, when a man is physically or verbally violent toward you, separate yourself! Period. This thing where they’re talking months later and she’s thinking the restraining order may not be necessary, is how you and your children (who are in your care) end up in the hospital and the grave!
This guy is actually scary. He knows how to manipulate people by pretending to be sweet and innocent. Apologizing for his "mistakes" but someone is gonna get really really hurt or killed by his "mistakes". This is just what abusers do.
He was already unhinged had nothing to do with the alcohol When someone showing you who they are BELIEVE THEM 💯 He should of been made to pay moving costs he threatened her life 😢
Whenever someone makes a threat, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't ever assume they won't follow through! Even nice people could snap!!! There are a lot of good people who are no longer with us because of violence. He should of went home sober up and talked about it in the morning like the plaintiff said. Even though, the defendant was intoxicated it's still no excuse for his behavior. He lost control of himself with the Plaintiff's daughter in the house. Just be a man and walk away. Since, he didn't walk away and threaten to bring his gun that right there tells me he's very unstable and could snap at anytime. The plaintiff said something very important. She said she's never seen the defendant behave this way that's because his true colors are starting to show through the alcohol.
I see her point. The restraining order is as you say, useless, so why antagonize him with it? She was worried he would come over with his gun like he promised. I think she made the right choice.
Restraining orders are more like an official notice that hey your being paid attention to and if you make another dumb move against this person we will officially come get you. They power they have is dependent on the persons respect for the law and individuals wishes. They can not stop a person from being evil or conducting an action so I get the useless part but it would take personal protection from police to make that actually happen.
And he has audacity to say: another black.... he are a victim play er, never take responsibility, I find her so reasonable and patient with him - another black man who need to learn communicate instead playing victim.
I love watching your show, also I just love it when John remember what you all did in your younger yrs of marriage.I bet he is am awesome Dad and husband..
The way a man treats and speaks to you while he is drunk is the way he feels about you. He deliberately threw the keys in the bushes, threatened her with a gun all over a card game….. Then when he sobered up he became enraged and continued to abuse her. He completely disrupted her life over this. She was smart enough not to stay with him.. she heeded the warnings by looking at the 🚩 🚩🚩Ladies take heed😮. Can you imagine if he became physically abusive with her.. 😥
Men like this are terrifying. His reactions are abusive and disgusting. He’s pitiful
Seriously. He is a pig
Seriously!! And so many of them are like this
That’s not a man. Men don’t behave that way.
Good thing she didn't go back. It would only gotten worse
Yes, terrifying, abusive and disgusting he is. However, women this date this guy and breed with him.
Don't tolerate angry or sloppy drunks. And she should have gotten the restraining order. To protect herself and her daughter.
And she’s still saying “hi & bye” that’s dangerous and I bet he knows where she’s at
I hope she has the integrity not to accept any money over the damages he caused and have nothing more to do with him. he will not change.
Unfortunately, you're
RIGHT!
They'll kiss and make up. Cheeez
@@Buildyourinheritance
What will he do if he decides to bill up more unprocessed anger??
@@kattiethomas4687more than likely go and get the gun and go to her house like he said. I can’t believe she was still in contact with this man, Smfh.
Wow! She should have taken this to Judge Mathis. He suffered very little consequences..
Well that’s the plaintiffs fault. She should’ve gotten a restraining order and had him locked up. Give the judge something to work with.
I agree. Judge Mathis would have threw the book at him.
Judge Mathis hates men like that so I agree
Definitely some crackheadish 😂😂
@@nanjones3973as someone who has a restraining order against a stalker I had ZERO relationship with. Who still contacts me. It doesn't mean a damn thing. Police don't give a fuck about women in danger. That order is just a piece of paper.
She should have gotten every penny she was asking for. The move was a direct consequence of his drunk crazy behavior. She should have gotten him arrested and gotten the restraining order as well.
I agree 💯
I agree on principle, and I hate abusive men like this. However, she hurt her case by failing to follow through with the restraining order.
Women do not give up the men they're in love with. That's.why the police can't do anything. It's frustrating to them to have their hands tied by someone who won't follow through when they've called the police.
She didn’t present her case well enough to have won that portion of her case. If she had something from the landlord stating that they’re refusing to renew her lease due to that incident, then she probably would have gotten it. She would also have to prove there were no other factors affecting the renewal. She made the choice to move, which is not the same thing as being forced to move due to that event. She also didn’t get a restraining order which weakened her argument that she moved out of fear. Especially since she continued friendly communication with him after.
The fact that he waited until all the guests left before showing out says A LOT.
He doesn’t confront men because he’d loose.
(Also: This case screams, “The BEAR…I choose the BEAR”! 😂)
Right! lol He wasn’t that drunk if he knew to wait and threaten her in private.
I would’ve gotten him arrested. All his actions that night and she let him go free? He did that with her daughter in the house
Especially since he is a military veteran.. they have a lot of mental challenges.
Signed a military brat & ex military spouse- both have severe ptsd.
They are hell.
She is a kind hearted lady. This could have WRECKED his life!
Her not filing for a restraining order or having him arrested was THEE reason why she wasn't awarded her moving costs. She didn't take him seriously when she should have at the moment, so why should the judge?
She said she was trying to get the money for the door
SHE SHOULD'VE FILED CHARGES AGAINST HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She also should've followed through on that restraining order against this lunatic.
This poor lady. Thank God he showed his true colors before it got worse.
The defendant is a childish nut case that can't control his emotions ,the woman should have also sued for emotional distress.
Totally agree!
Dude! You terrorized this poor lady!
No this is his behavior without alcohol. He is unhinged and a danger to all women!!!
EXACTLY
ngl ma'am is kinda pissing me off by 10:30. i just feel like y'all play too damn much behind men & threats. the police are OFFERING to arrest a lunatic who has already told you that he will shoot you and/or light your vehicle on fire.
but oh no! "i'm so scared!" GIRL DO SOMETHING!
it's giving "i didn't wanna put no black man in jail!" 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Girl, absolutely!!! She didn’t have his keys what if she didn’t find them. She should have gotten the restraining order and then if he threatened or came by he goes to jail and he doesn’t keep his gun!
And that’s how women end up getting killed. SMH
Trying to be objective about it, I said maybe she didn’t move on them arresting him that night because I can imagine that feels like a temporary fix that may only further enrage someone who’s already threatening you. Now, the restraining order - DEFINITELY.
Exactly! smh at these kind of women
She seemed a little nonchalant in the beginning about all the red flags at the start of the party. She should've politely ejected him from the party.
She should have put him in jail so the next woman he dates at least has a heads up
Such a nice lady, I'm glad she broke up with him we are to old to deal with this type behavior ...
If she truly was afraid, she should've filed a restraining order. You don't get to have it both ways
Wow. I'm glad that she handled him the way she did on that night. He was SO out of line. I hope that he actually is as sorry as he seems to be now, and that he gets help.
She should have sued for mental anguish.
Unfortunately, most like JM would not have granted because she continued talking to him. I've seen it.
How does it make her argument weaker? He literally kicked in her door & threatened her life multiple times…
Feminist logic
They’re still talking holding conversations. If she was really scarred for her life she would’ve cut him off moved and then sued him. She was still meeting with him after it happened because she returned the tickets. Judge saw she was an opportunist that tried to maximize on the idea of her getting to move as she said the police notified her it may be an opportunity to get out the lease. That’s what made it weaker.
But she still entertained him. Huh she has to have accountability in this. She wasn’t that scared to send him to jail or at least a retraining order.
But did she get a restraining order? No. If I’m fearful I’m buying a gun and pressing charges. She’s still friends with him. Obviously she’s not that scared.
If she stopped speaking to him, filed the restraining order, moved, and then sued him her case would have been stronger. I don’t think it was a good idea to entertain him after he threatened to come back with a gun. That was crazy. She’s talking about needing him to pay. Uh, you’re risking your life for $1,000? That’s crazy
lol yea everybody knows spades break up friendships and happy homes!😅
And Uno.....
😂😂😂 UNO and Spades have been breaking up happy homes since the 70’s 🤣🤣😂😂
@@nneekaestelle4732oh yea mos def uno…… I heard they have a draw 100 card…..
I agree with all y'all. Lol
😂😂😂😂 cards & bones
A person of his age should not be behaving like this, he needs some help for his anger issues because he'll meet the right one sooner or later.
He’s crazy. Restraining order wouldn’t stop a bullet. I would’ve had him arrested and me my child would’ve been gone! She prolly would’ve won more. Because she stayed and continued to correspond with him - that’s cray cray too.
This case is bothering me. The fact that he threatened to pull a gun on her and smashed in her door seem to all be forgiven by the Judge and the plaintiff. Women die every day at the hands of intimate partners and these are warning signs. She should not stay friends with him; even to say hi and bye. She should steer clear of him and never talk to him again.
What do you want the judge to do? The police saw the kicked in door, text message regarding getting a gun, etc... She chose to not get a restraining order, to not have him arrested, etc... The judge told her she should have done both.
Grown folks can't drink responsibly and get along...SMH
I don’t understand ‘being too scared’ to press charges while also clearly not being scared enough to never let this man around you again
Geesh…. She dodged a bullet, punched intended.
Heck yeah, run and don’t look back 👩🏿⚖️
*Pun, but we got where you was going 😂
Spades is a card game that can get messy, trash talking is apart of the game. But you can tell that her is a drunkard
John is a good man Judge you sure picked a good one!!!!!❤❤❤
If you can't handle liquor, DON'T DRINK!
The defendant is like a ticking time bomb.... he really needs mental health care. He is really nasty!
All this for his hurt feelings... some folks need to grow up!
He didn't have a headache the next morning because his body is accustomed to heavy drinking.
He too old to be acting like that
Wrong ruling!!! His fault altogether!!
Nah… the ruling is accurate. In a court you have to prove your case and she failed to do so for the moving expenses.
Honestly listening to him talk, he comes off like an Alcoholic 😢 I’m glad she made the judgement to dismiss him. Usually us women want to forgive and ignore the red flags 🚩 bless this woman’s heart ❤️
Alcoholic and got that crack mouth..
He’s probably slurred due to the stroke he mentioned he had 🤷🏾
He was insecure period
No mental unstable period
He looks intoxicated in court!
He do
Not necessarily. He's had a stroke.
@@sheliapea1387yeah it wasn't giving stroke side effects. I think we saw how chaotic he can be when drunk first hand
His voice is giving ‘alcoholic’.
His bald head tail woulda been locked up messin wit me. Like he said he can’t blame this entirely on alcohol, that’s how he is as a person
I can almost bet that the defendant showed signs of crazy waaay before spades night, and it wasnt the first time he called her out her name. If this was the first time she wouldn't have felt the need to ininvite him to the after party,but she knew from previous dealings that he was going to be a problem.
Ladies! Once a so called man shows you who he is the first time keep it moving. I cant even see what she saw in him in the first place...uggggh
you no women are horrible at picking men and desperate smh
Dude, you were going to DRIVE DRUNK....GUILTY!!
He should have paid for her moving expenses!!
That's exactly what I'm saying, she probably would've had to pay more if she broke the lease sooner...
@@cynthiawallace7108 exactly 🙌🏾
14:58
She needs to get stronger, she didn't press charges, didn't get the restraining order her excuse is she never been through this before smh
Intoxicated but trying to drive his vehicle… this is the kind of person that hurt everybody else on the road but themselves.
Lmao he looks like an angry block head 😂🤦🏾♀️
He didn't need to be driving anyway.
Exactly what I was thinking
Yeah, he's cray cray. Good ridden
People don't grow up smh as I get older it gets worse
Awwwww! I love what the Judges hubby did with the ring. So sweet ❤❤
So he was too drunk to be held accountable for his violent behavior but sober enough to drive!!! Wow
Plaintiff should know how SERIOUS some people take Spades
She definitely should have gotten the money she paid to break her lease. She should have gotten the restraining order, but his actions were absolutely threatening and terrifying.
I'm glad she left this man, he is very dangerous. If you can't hold your liquor Sir, don't drink. Grown folks should know better, but apparently not for him...
"We gotta a friendship relationship now" is crazy😂😂😂😂😂 I got one too!!
The judge sensed that and that is why she did not receive the moving amount…if she would have followed through with the authorities she would have received everything that she asked for.
For the life of me, I don’t understand why these women do not file charges
But they’re “scared”…….. toxic
And a lot of the time, the damn restraining order doesn’t work. The crazy person will still find a way to find you and harm you. It’s a joke!
@@dagerldemsuga it’s more of having his anger & whatnot documented and on paper! That way if it ever escalates to the point of her defending herself.. there’s a paper trail
She didn’t do what the police officer said because she knew she was going to let him back in and continue the relationship with him! One reason why I don’t sympathize for anyone in these kind of relationship. They know how violent and crazy that person is but continue to be with them when they already know he or she is never going to change. It kills me more when they surround and expose their kids to their unhealthy relationship.
Where in the case did you hear they got back together? And didn't you hear the judge say get advice from a lawyer and not the police? I guess not! Smh. That's how lies start. Be careful.
CONVERSATE is not a word! Spread the word 💙
Did ya even look it up first?
There's NO WAY a man can threaten me with a gun and I don't contact authorities
Absolutely is a word…
He had a stroke cuz he is obese, is unhealthy and drinks!
Correct, the word is CONVERSE 🍁🍁🍁
I have talked to a man like this I can definitely understand that fear because at that point you never know what that person is cable capable of
That’s terrifying. Glad her and her daughter are ok 😢
I admire and adore these judges as a couple ❤
This is why I stick to weed
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I could sit in a room for hours with an angry drunk. I wouldn't be within a million miles of someone who uses weed. Enjoy.
@@HeLivesForever25Lmfaoo that’s backwards.. we are the chill ones….. those drunks be killin people off that liquor
Why would you lower your iq on purpose
Stop trying to reason with a drunk. After she got him outside of the apartment she should've dealt with him from a distance. It's no way I would've helped him look for keys (i.e.night/day) after his ultra-sensitive mood, kicking my door and cursing me out. Like him, she needs to mature more especially since she's a parent. Also, she was laughing periodically as she reminisced over that foolish night. No wonder the judge took it light on him. What great qualities to look for in a mate. [Insert double dunce award here!]
I dont even want hi and bye with a man like that. We losing contact!
She honestly found him attractive?? 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Don't know how to play the dozens!!!😂
I hate that women play with their lives like this. Ladies, when a man is physically or verbally violent toward you, separate yourself! Period. This thing where they’re talking months later and she’s thinking the restraining order may not be necessary, is how you and your children (who are in your care) end up in the hospital and the grave!
Truth comes out when you are drunk,true colors
If you play Spades, u know what they were saying😂..#NoRookiesAllowed
This guy is actually scary. He knows how to manipulate people by pretending to be sweet and innocent. Apologizing for his "mistakes" but someone is gonna get really really hurt or killed by his "mistakes". This is just what abusers do.
It’s always a game of Spades and Uno that brings out the worst in people.
Uno? 😭
Stay away from veterans who have not fully dealt with their demons
Big grown baby boy ! Thank God I always see the red flag beforehand have no time for this!!!!!
I’m from Jersey and have heard about ppl getting killed over a spades game 😩
Him and that smirk pissed me off!
This could have easily ended up on Snapped! Her protective instincts are at most sub par.
His behavior is the result of an ID episode: A man killing a woman because she did not take his threats seriously.
I love Judge Milian. She just cracks me up with her side talk 😂😂😂 and then the interview at the end is so adorable. 😂😂😂
*This guy acts like denzel in training day!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤣
Whether she took a RO out or not. Plenty of women are murdered with a RO. A RO is not a gun or security.
Correct. Femicide is on the rise!!
He was already unhinged had nothing to do with the alcohol
When someone showing you who they are BELIEVE THEM 💯 He should of been made to pay moving costs he threatened her life 😢
Whenever someone makes a threat, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't ever assume they won't follow through! Even nice people could snap!!! There are a lot of good people who are no longer with us because of violence. He should of went home sober up and talked about it in the morning like the plaintiff said. Even though, the defendant was intoxicated it's still no excuse for his behavior. He lost control of himself with the Plaintiff's daughter in the house. Just be a man and walk away. Since, he didn't walk away and threaten to bring his gun that right there tells me he's very unstable and could snap at anytime. The plaintiff said something very important. She said she's never seen the defendant behave this way that's because his true colors are starting to show through the alcohol.
I bet they stil together.
I said the same thing, it wouldn't surprise me if they get back together!😊
Doubt
I don't believe she was that scared, or she would've gotten the useless restraining order. She was still texting him too, bull.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Useless restraining order???😂😂😂😂
It's useless??
I see her point. The restraining order is as you say, useless, so why antagonize him with it? She was worried he would come over with his gun like he promised. I think she made the right choice.
@@traceyaz125absolutely, keep your enemies close
Restraining orders are more like an official notice that hey your being paid attention to and if you make another dumb move against this person we will officially come get you. They power they have is dependent on the persons respect for the law and individuals wishes. They can not stop a person from being evil or conducting an action so I get the useless part but it would take personal protection from police to make that actually happen.
He threatened to burn her car and shoot her, he dgaf about a restraining order
I love judge and her husband together!
I was coming here to comment this! They are so cute together and make such a beautiful couple. They’re such goals.
And he has audacity to say: another black.... he are a victim play er, never take responsibility, I find her so reasonable and patient with him - another black man who need to learn communicate instead playing victim.
She only had to move, because of him.. so he should’ve had to pay for her move.
Plantiff money driven & she likely to return to this relationship transactionally.🤣🤣🤣
Cause seriously, what will a restraining order do??
Right, cause more anger that's what.
ooh how she dodged a bullet!!!!
I love watching your show, also I just love it when John remember what you all did in your younger yrs of marriage.I bet he is am awesome Dad and husband..
He looks drunk in court to be honest. Smh.
crazy angry drunk! so glad she found out early!
Judge Milian always minimizes the abuse of some women.
Bless his heart!
That ring story got me verklimpt 😢…I loved that lil story
She should've gotten paid for the moving expenses as well....that was completely unfair!!
Grown man can't hold his liquor. Glad his friend picked him up and he didn't get on the road drunk.
How is this guy not in prison again?!?!?!?!?!?!
The way a man treats and speaks to you while he is drunk is the way he feels about you. He deliberately threw the keys in the bushes, threatened her with a gun all over a card game….. Then when he sobered up he became enraged and continued to abuse her. He completely disrupted her life over this. She was smart enough not to stay with him.. she heeded the warnings by looking at the 🚩 🚩🚩Ladies take heed😮. Can you imagine if he became physically abusive with her.. 😥
Hats off to this man and police❤❤