संवाद # 142: Did India REALLY Win the 1965 War against Pakistan? Shiv Kunal Verma
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Having set the benchmark in the 1990s for films on all the three services, Shiv Kunal Verma has had a unique ringside view of matters military. His coverage of the Kargil War and the films on the National Defence Academy (The Standard Bearers) and the Indian Military Academy (The Making of a Warrior) are considered classics. His illustrated books include Tamil Nadu and the highly acclaimed work-The Northeast Trilogy-which has also been published as a large format book. The Long Road to Siachen: The Question Why and 1962: The War That Wasn’t are considered among the most authoritative works in the Indian military history genre.
In this episode we discuss in detail his book '1965: A Western Sunrise - India's War With Pakistan'. You can order your copy here: www.amazon.in/1965-WESTERN-Sh...
0:00 Promo
3:05 1962 Vs 1965 war
6:00 General Chaudhary’s role
9:10 Mountbatten Returns with his Evil Plan
14:48 Major General DK Palit
19:00 Pakistani misread Shastri
20:55 Bhutto’s rise & his importance
23:12 Bhutto & Rann of Kutch connection
24:20 Mao gave Op Gibraltar plan to Bhutto
26:01 Role of Indian Navy in 1965 war
29:17 Understanding Rann of Kutch
32:13 Pak had better weaponry in 1965 war
38:16 India stops Pak in Rann
40:12 Rann is worse than Siachen
45:02 India responded in Kargil
47:50 Operation Ablaze that didn’t happen
49:47 General Harbaksh Vs General Chaudhary
51:48 Was Major General Niranjan Prasad incompetent?
55:31 No intelligence about Ichogil Canal
57:13 Jaggi Nath’s exploits
1:03:22 Operation Gibraltar plan & execution
1:08:48 Why Op Gibraltar failed
1:12:24 Pakistan launches Op Grand Slam
1:16:07 Bhaskar Roy deserved PVC
1:18:50 Why Army Chief delayed air support
1:21:58 Role of Air Force in 1965 war
1:28:52 The tragedy of Lahore
1:38:00 Situation at ceasefire
1:39:15 Army chief lied to PM Shastri
1:43:14 Civilian bombing by Pak Air Force
1:45:52 What happened in Tashkent
1:48:58 Who REALLY won the 1965 war
You dont know full information. I was in Adampur airfield and we were not prepared for defence of Air Field no Black out and no bunkers made till 6 sep 1965.only one might and one mystery that toonly shell body damaged . There targets missed old Ammunition did not burst . There was pressure on Amritsar and Chaudhry told to hold back left bank of Beas . But sikh generals did not agreed that alredy we lost Lahore and now cannot loose Amritsar so they did not go back
Nonsense
Sir I am Pakistani 🇵🇰
Sir this man doing DRAMA 😂
@@alidogar1516Atankwadi spotted
TRUE. Nowadays too many so called historians
Shiv Kunal Verma is too good. No one can think that he is not an ex army man. I am ordering his book today. Thanks a lot for giving us such quality content.
नए नए इतिहास लिखे जा रहे h 🤣 सच या झूठ पता नही।
jhhooth. I always listen to their motivated stuff with a pinch of salt. They mix their lies with some truths to appear authentic. But the final aim is a lie.
@@ashokkumarkuwar147if that is so then why are you wasting your time and data by watching the podcast? Typical piddi mentality
he in is party shirt seem to be a perpetual drunkard.wont be surprised if he is drunk at this interview. cant make a head or tail of his incoherent babble.
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
I love this man. So effortlessly, Shiv Kunal Verma defines and criticises all the shortcomings of the upper echeleons of the Indian armed forces, and the political leadership, while amplifying the glory and Valor of the common rank and file. I genuinely feel the quality of guests here is much superior to the more popular English podcasts like Raj Shamani, Beerbiceps, etc.
Beerbiceps mein mostly bakchods aate hain bhai 'historian' ke naam pe, likes of AC. Iyer is genuinely talented, so is Kunal here, even the host here is remarkably learned person as compared to Ranveer.
@@sunilk8118 Who is AC Iyer? Abhijit iyer mitra or Abhijit Chavda ?
Yaar he is telling lies. You like it because he is speaking against our sr army officers, who are rarely criticised. But the fact is, he is wrong and motivated.
@@ashokkumarkuwar147 I have worked with very high ranking and Sr officers for MES contacts. All that glitters is not gold. Not everyone is Brig. Usman or Hosiyar Singh. 1962 was a failure of big guys (PM, DM, high command) not foot soldiers
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We bow to Indian Armed Forces
U were, U are Our Guaridian Saviours
whether its War Time Or Peace Time
No matter how Hard U were hit either by the Enemies or By Geographical terrain or By Internal Politics. U took So many Casulties but U never Let Country & its People down ...
Indian Army, People's Army....
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
Muslims lost all wars to india yet ruled india for twelve hundred years.
रिटायर्ड फौजी उन सीआरपी प्लाटून में भर्ती हुए थे और पाक आर्मी को उसके अंदाज में जवाब दिया था और 1965में रन ऑफ कच्छ में अड़ गए थे कुल 25शेरों ने भारत माता की शान बचाई थी
General Harbaksh Singh was the main hero of 1965 war
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
Nonsens, kuch bhi😂😂
@@dhakadsingh2540 pata hai..bahut buraa Lagg raha hai...Sach jo hai..bollywood dekh dekh ke nasha chara hua hai...ke hum kabhi bhaagte nahi....bahut mushkil hogi aapko Sach accept karne mee...lekin sara Punjab aur uss waqt kee army sab jaanti hai...aur bhi kaii kisses hai
@@dhakadsingh2540 @dhakadsingh2540 pata hai..bahut buraa Lagg raha hai...Sach jo hai..bollywood dekh dekh ke nasha chara hua hai...ke hum kabhi bhaagte nahi....bahut mushkil hogi aapko Sach accept karne mee...lekin sara Punjab aur uss waqt kee army sab jaanti hai...aur bhi kaii kisses hai
@dhakadsingh2540 aur suno bhai...ritik...sanjay...John Abraham jaisee kuttee nahi bachate desh ki aurto aur sanskriti ko...ye aam log hee ....army bhi . Aur Sikh sardars jo waha pe rehte hai...aur jaante hai sab kuch...ye log he hero hai..bhai sochna meri baat ...
दिल्ली मे बैठे निकम्मे ऊफसरो की वजह से कंजरकोट का इलाका पाकिस्तान के पास चला गया ।कच्छ का महाराव सिंध के चरवाहे के पास से पानचरी नामका टेकस लेते थे जिसकी रसीद आज भी रजवाडे की रेकॉर्ड मे मौजूद हे।
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
Gen Ayub Khan was suspended for six months for his cowardice( fleeing from battlefied) in Burma in WW II. He was a major then. His being a stooge of the British that saved him from being coutmarshalled and getting back his job. These are all archived. (learnt from my uncle who was a captain in the same regiment in Burma in WWII)
WOW. I WWAS NOT AWARE.
Even Gen Musharraf was beaten badly in Siachen conflict especially when Bana Top was captured
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
It is wrong to say we did not have the knowledge about Icchogil canal. I had personally handed over the entire alignment of Icchogil canal with full engineering drawings to my CO in July 1965. It was duly passed on to the higher authorities and I was summoned by Command HQ (Int) to verify the genuineness of the drawings, which I did.
Tell these to this ignorant historian.
And sir as he aptly says we were outstanding on tactical part, messed up only at strategic level.
Regards.
Nice to see it coming right from the horse's mouth. Sir thanks for bringing out. These historians with political affiliations are damaging our history. History should be read as a compilation of facts, devoid of emotions and personal affiliations. But the guys are heavily influenced by their affiliations.
Shri Pormod ji your statement is first hand hence irrefutable. Well you have corrected the viewers.
Yes, but whether the IAF did have an opportunity to recce the area before the actual ops is difficult to know, because this does find mention in the 1965 West Pak operation stories
Amazing, Shiv Jii is amazing, he is not just an author but a great conversationist.
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
Fabulous podcast....map ke sath discussion Hota side by side to aur better Hota...anyways always good to hear shiv sir
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
Please invite Col Ajay Raina again...his sequence, facts, clarity in topic and narration is mind blowing
Mr Verma is very frank and honest.
That India, with its bigger army and greater resources, punched below its weight is a lesson to be learnt.
Salute you.
Warm regards.
@randhawaz1 65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee...h thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi....hua kiyaa thaa...jab general Harbaksh singh ne dekha ke majhail people did not cate if pakistanis...n rather willing to face them ...he got really motivated...Read his article of pinjabi news paper..."sikhar dippers Jethro diyaa nu ..saun kiye mai aakha" published in 98
For history pls call surya roy sir and praveen mohan they are amazing and talk about dharmic revival.
Besides the veducation founder can also be great guest at your amazing podcast who is working to re establish gurukul school.Also Sahana singh who is based in usa to talk about ancient indian education.Venkatesh rangan sir is a great historian too who has published three books and worked upon ancient indian conquests and our great civilization.Raghava krishna ,the founder of brhat is doing great work.
Also ,Capt praveen chaturvedi who made sahib movie is great person who advocates for our santana cause and tells how it has been systematically destroyed.Shaleen wadhwani is a great art educator,curator and talks greatly on how British looted of our riches and how it can be repatriated
Very well summed up- the 1965 war was a victory of Indian Forces' self confidence ,esteem and pride
Thanks Arihant & Shiv for graciously taking note of the "go sequentially" comment from the last time. Made this episode that much more engrossing
Shiv Kunal sir ...love the way you narrate history.Knowledge through the way you say can be listened for hours..❤❤
31:10 Kanjarkot
40:05 Sir Creek
42:26 Great Rann
49:03 Bari Doab
1:05:10 Pir Panjal
1:10:01 Op Gibraltar
1:12:43 Op Grand Slam
1:29:53 Lahore sector
1:34:49 Barki
1:35:05 Khem Karan
1:37:39 Chawinda
I was virtually in the thick of war in 1965 on Lahore front. On Dugrai front was 54 inf brigade of 15 inf div, on its left flank was one Brigade of 7inf div from Ferozepur and on the south that is Khemkaran sector 4 infantry div from Ambala was there. I was looking after Dugrai to Khemkaran where reverses were seen and Col Anand’s 4 Sikh Regt was taken POW.
Facts being related are not matching that what had actually happened on that front. Even leadership stories being told differ with factual command orders and conversations. I am the eye witness of that war. Also of NEFA 1962, where this 4 inf div from Tezpur was deployed. Very unfortunately the same 4 Sikh Regt was airlifted from Ramgarh (Bihar) to Tezpur where this Regt bore great losses. I was myself there. In Goa 17 inf div under Gen Kandith again I was there.
Story about chicken neck opposite to Akhnoor 19 inf brigade under 26 inf div during 1965 and again in 1971 this area was taken over by Pakistan where India used airforce sending 32 aircraft in 1965 to stop the tank advance of Pakistan though 4 aircraft’s were downed. No war book has told full truth. Only those who were virtually in the thick of those wars know the facts.
Thank you dear writer.
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Respected sir good evening request you to please go through The True Story of 2/Lt Baljit Singh to learn about operation in Sialkot sector during 1965 war, involving 69th Brigade; 6 Mountain Div
Ye sabhi nam hai ......samaj jao translate nahi ho sakta.....nam to nam hi rahega
@@nirmalvachhani8747ye bas maps ke timestamp hai
@prakashsingh8632 you are probably talking about chhamb which pakistan took twice once in 65 and than in 71.
BTW how couldn't they take chawinda?
If India had used imagination and not cared for world opinion could have easily defeated Pakistan in Runn of Kutch and could have captured lots of Sindh territory. On other hand what ever few miles it captured gave back at insistence of UN!
No mention of 2nd Lt ArunKhetrapal who single handedly destroyed many pak tanks as confirmed by Pakistani major. A captured Patton tank was at display opp Regal cinema for 2 days. It was then removed under American pressure.
Bro Lt .khetarpal was martyr of 1971 war.
Arun Khetarpals senior, Lt col Tarapore won the PVC in the 1965 war, in Chawinda. 6 years later, ketertarpal won it in the 1971, in Khem Karan.
Please read some more.
@@MARKCRASTO Well said --- READ SOME MORE ---.
Most people do not go for cold, dispassionate information but instead are
unduly influenced by rhetoric , melodrama and hysterical exaggerations, if not sheer misinformation .
He is very reluctant to give credit to general harbakhs Singh
He is defending and praising coward niranjan prasad who was sacked twice, first in 1962 and then in 1965 for his timid and coward action. According to him there is no danger to Amritsar😂😂 then why the fuck Delhi called General harbaksh to come behind beas leaving whole majha in Pakistans hand. 😂😂😂
These are sarkari tauts and will never give credit to the sikh General. Ingrained hatred for pagri.
65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi
@@randhawaz165 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee...h thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi....hua kiyaa thaa...jab general Harbaksh singh ne dekha ke majhail people did not cate if pakistanis...n rather willing to face them ...he got really motivated...Read his article of pinjabi news paper..."sikhar dippers Jethro diyaa nu ..saun kiye mai aakha" published in 98
@@Dbbjf145@randhawaz1 65 war me Amritsar sector se south army...dogra aur Rajput bhaage gayee...h thee pakistanio ko dekh kar...tab Sikh sardaro ne kaha hame hathyar de do lekin bhaage gayee...general harbaksh Singh net mana Kiya thaaa Amritsar chornee ko ..air fir Jung jeeti bhi....hua kiyaa thaa...jab general Harbaksh singh ne dekha ke majhail people did not cate if pakistanis...n rather willing to face them ...he got really motivated...Read his article of pinjabi news paper..."sikhar dippers Jethro diyaa nu ..saun kiye mai aakha" published in 98
Sir i really appreciate your military podcasts, particularly with Verma sir. Keep shining, Huge respect, Jai Hind 🇮🇳
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Most detailed information on 1965 WAR 👍
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For history pls call surya roy sir and praveen mohan they are amazing and talk about dharmic revival.
Besides the veducation founder can also be great guest at your amazing podcast who is working to re establish gurukul school.Also Sahana singh who is based in usa to talk about ancient indian education.Venkatesh rangan sir is a great historian too who has published three books and worked upon ancient indian conquests and our great civilization.Raghava krishna ,the founder of brhat is doing great work.
Also ,Capt praveen chaturvedi who made sahib movie is great person who advocates for our santana cause and tells how it has been systematically destroyed.Shaleen wadhwani is a great art educator,curator and talks greatly on how British looted of our riches and how it can be repatriated
Thanks Mr. Kunal Verma for your hidden information share. Today, I have come to know lots of information about the 1965 war.
Thus historian has inadequate knowledge. In 1962,the agreement to buy MIG aircraft from the Soviet Union was signed in March 1962 but due to the opposition of Morarji Desai the CIA agent in the Nehru administration those aircraft’s could not come to India but came in November 1962 and by that time India already declared cease fire to China. There was no agreements between China and
the Soviet Union as since 1960 they became enemies.
Hello Mr Verma , kese bol rahe ho Amritsar ko koi threats nhi tha ? Amritsar me Golden temple hone ki vjh se Harbaksh Singh ne Gen Choudry ka order refuse kiya . Captain Amrinder Singh , Gen harbaksh Singh ke under thy , Amrinder Singh ( former Chief Minister Punjab ) aaj bhi zinda hain , any body can ask to Amrinder Singh , is Amritsar under threat or No .respectively I don't agree with you @ Verma saab.
Ye Tau gappe maar raha hai
I was in school holidays in Kapurthala in year 10 August 15 Pakistan started. Dropping army parachutes sqdn leader Mirja took n political asylum
@ranbirchauhan96 1965 -71 ki jung me hum apne village ke pass Railway line, road , gaon ke aspass khet me mil kar theekri pehra dete rahe hain . 1965 ke Jung me meri age 8 years thi . But 1971 ki mujhe yaad aaj bhi taza he .
कृपया हमें ऐसे ही सच्चाई बताते रहें Very nice efforts, Thank you. People want to know Truth.
Gen Choudhry ne , Gen Harbaksh Singh ko apna defence Beas river ke apni side deploy krne ka order diya tha , lekin Gen Harbaksh ne vo order nhi obey kia , Esi bat ko gol mol bolne ka kya matlab he ? 48-65-71-99 ki wars bahut discuss ho chuki hain , interest ki vjh se viewers bahut he , lekin kafi kuch knowledge to sab ko he.
General chaudhary ka order follow krte to Amritsar pr Pak army chad aati.
बो वातें बोलने में यह शर्म महसूस करते है ।
@@Obliviate94Gurdaspur, Tran taran would had been plundered if Gen Harbakhash was followed the order of Gen Chaudry .All the details r there in a book 'War of Blunders'written by Gen Harbakhash Singh
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In india one become an expert with his own opinions. Wars are not fought on statistics alone
Friendly advice to you …..
1. Knowledge is best exchanged when transfer of info is in a sequential manner FROM KNOWN TO UNKNOWN…..
2. Just because you now a few things , does not mean that your viewers know everything…..
3. Don’t try to interrupt your guest , don’t try to divert from the core story , DONT TRY TO SHOW OFF YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE GUEST AND TO THE VIEWERS.
4. Let your guest talk more and don’t break their momentum .
5. Interviewer normally gets the guest back on track if he is deviating . YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE ONES WHO DISTRACT YOUR GUEST SPEAKER .
Your videos give us an impression that it is not meant for a common man but only for experts .
If you keep repeating these mistakes you will lose all your subscribers for sure
All the best
True ..this man interupts alot and is trying to be the answrer rather questionair
Need a better anchor.
ye friendly hai ?
From Prithwiraj Chauhan till now, we have not learnt the lessons of war. Wars are fought for territory and control and not for vague self respect. Indian Military and Politicians should read Kautilya and learn real politics. Even US Military Colleges teach Chanakya's writings.
Prthwiraj Chouhan had made a great blunder for India in past when gone into the tent of Md. Giuris tent in night, but left him without taking his security. Secondly he snatched the doughter of his weaker rival Jaichand, who lateron take the assistance Md. Ghouri to fight against Prthwiraj. Situation created by Prthwiraj paved way to Md. Ghouri to enter into India. If Prthwiraj had intension to merry the doughter of Jaichand Sanjutkta, he shiuld have to make friendship with Jaichand first and proceed further. The situation led by that time for Musilms for entry into India, whohad captured other parts of the world beyond India due to strong resistance of indian Hindu Kings.
@@abhayaprasadsamantaray4236Yes, we should reevaluate all our heroes from a realistic perspective.
@@abhayaprasadsamantaray4236Do you have any comments on Ranjit Singh and Shivaji Maharaj?
@@abhayaprasadsamantaray4236 raso galat h bhai vha s mt padho
@@user-rg7jt4xp9y Take the fight to the enemy like Shivaji and Ranjit Singh.
Very knowledgeable information
God damn it !! I love to hear this man speaking out!!
1965 to jyada mujhe yad nhi , lekin 1971 ki jung ke time China ne apni army ko advance kr diya tha , mujhe aaj bhi yad he news me mene suna , ke Bharat ne puri China border me army ko lga diya he .koi bhi research krke malum kar skta he . Also my all relatives are in border areas including my family & my 2 family members was in army that time in war 1971. 1 shaheed just after war in land mines , 1 uncle live till today .
No. You are wrong. It was not possible due to closure of passes. That was the main reason of attack in November December
The Chinese Armed Forces were restrained totally because the USSR had threatened them with military action, if the Chinese physically interfered in the Indo Pak war .
The PLA & PLAF might have been mobilized along the Sino Indian border , as a muscle flexing exercise by China.
Sir, your narrative is not clear. You just tell actually what happened. How much area pak captured and how much area India captured.
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outstanding storytelling of sixty five war!
My family was from Chamb sector and had to fled our native land post 65. My grandfather and grandmother who was pregnant at that time fled during nightime. Grandfather used to narrate whole story during lohri when i used to sit with him.
Thanks sir for the historical information on 65 war facts my deepest respect for you sir
Quality content... Oh God he is so knowledgeable.. we didn't know abc of it all
This historian does not know either.
😂 नेहरू को इस तरह से बदनाम किया जा सकता h 🤣, ये जो बोल रहे h सच बोल रहे h ????? इनका background किस विचारधारा से h 🤣 उससे पता chl जायेगा
@@kusumkashyap5380 you got lucky chance to lick pinky gandi passy by commenting in support of Nehru
Excellent Discussion...
Excellent podcast!
बहुत कोशिश की ध्यान से सुनने की। लेकिन 50 मिनट तक सुनने के बाद यह पता चला कि *इन्होने* लडा़ई शुरू की तो *इन्😂होंने* तगड़ा जवाब दिया पर *इन* के पास हथियार अच्छे थे जबकि *इन* के हथियार पुराने थे। *इस* युद्ध में जीत तो *इन* को मिली पर *इन्होंने* समझौता कर लिया तो *इन्होंने* भी मान लिया।
कुल मिला कर पूरी बातचीत मे इन्होंने उन्होंने होता रहा।
fabulous❤
Very good informative video...
भुट्टो का नाम काशीराम पिता मारवाड़ी क्षत्रिय मां लक्खीबाई गायकवाड
भुट्टो का पहला निकाह 12वर्ष की आयु में 32वर्ष की चचेरी बहन से हुआ था
Brilliant podcast
As always very nice talk 😊
हमारे यहां पर राजनीति मानसिकता से ग्रस्त लोगों का बहुत ज्यादा जमावड़ा है और चाहते हैं की इन की मन की सत्ता हासिल होती रहे जेसे पाकिस्तान में भी यही हाल है बस सता हमारी रहे जाऐ जनता को झूठ बोल कर ही गुजारा करना पड़े जय श्री राम
Sabse bada satta ka lalchi Modi hai
Excellent interview..lot of information 👍
So interesting 😮
It is 100% true that we regained our respect as a strong nation ❤
टाइम निकल जाने के बाद सब नयी नयी कहानियां सुनाते हैँ ।
During 1965 war with Pakistann I was 28 years old we enjoyed Akashwani parody and mimicry of radio Pakistan ,"Yeh radio jhutistan hai ab aap miyan dhindorchi se aaj ki taza khabren suniye, hindustani fojon ke daant khatte karne ke liye hamari fojen nimbu Kat rahi hain magar pyaz kat-te waqt hamari fojon ki aankhon se aansu beh rahe hain .Johnny Walker ne Mehmud ko phone kar ke kaha "are Mahmud blackout men tu ghar ki sari light jala kar betha hai ,Mahmud ne jawab diya tujjhe kya bomb Gira to mere ghar par gire ga ,Johnny ne kaha are pakistanion ka nishana aisa hai ki wo bomb Marengo mere ghar par magar bomb girega mere ghar par "
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Proud on Indian Army
Mr Verma has done his homework. Enjoyed watching the video. Would love if these videos also inserts some pictures of the War.
He is talking rubbish by blaming General Chowdhury.
Sir there was 4 Sikh in barki not second sikh
Yes sir! We really established ourselves after1965 war.
Great knowledge
I can see a potential movies script in the first 14 min of this video .....
This is so interesting.........
In 1965 Shastri ji were having Lunch and all 3 forces generals came to his resident and sat in waiting room , when shstri ji came to know 3 generals have come he left lunch inbetween but her wife told to finish lunch he told when all commanders have come there is serious matter, He met with them they told we have to start war with Pak and Shastri ji said whole country is with yoy you do whatever is required to do
Bhai kuch graphics hi daal do ki kaun aadmi kaun hai. itne saare characters hain kuch samajh nahin aa rha
And it was not the Punjab Police who was guarding the international Border , It was Punjab Armed Police.
kuch ni ho sakta tum logoo ka
@@vishalsinghrana1425 is me hone na hone vala kya hai ..?? It's another force ,My father was Part of it and even PUNJAB ARMED POLICE had given its services for the Security of Indian President Mr K R Narayana . It's a Proud Moment for the Force .
Very interesting 🎉Jai Hind🇮🇳Jai Jai Bharat and Indian Armed Forces 🎉🇮🇳
Shiv Kunal Verma has done so much research on this war . I don't think so deep knowledge of other writers.he describes shortcomings,the rifts between officers,coordination gap of army and IAF .no IB role .
I reiterate my query to Mr.Shiv Kunal Verma re: Gen. Chaudhry's competence, integrity and loyalty. Verma insinuates suspicions against the general and then refrains from providing any rationale, elaboration, or judgement over the general's dubious behavior lying to his PM. Didn't he deserve to be court martialled when the truth became known?
Very important information
Sorry to say, almost every time the interviewer interrupted to show off his knowledge and put his two cents worth in, he ended up making a fool of himself.
Very nice news thanks Sir ji.
India has won decisively only one war against Pakistan and that was 1971 war in Bengladesh and that was due to help of that country. Pakistan was disconnected from Bangladesh by thousands of miles . But Indira gave away the advantages of victory & got defeated by Bhutto in diplomacy at Shimla . Shimla agreement proved our weakness & we lost all that was won .
Hope airforce is ready now. Har baar airforce peeche jaati rahi..
Had the Gen Harbakash Singh been a supreme commander of Indian army during the 65 war, today history would have been different. Being Panjabi he knew the area and had dare to fight to the end. Sorry, Bengalis are not a fighter community. Shastri ji died by heart attack and nothing else. But India should have not left the areas of Kashmir as we say it is our own. No body won or lost this war, but Pak failed on all fronts or motives including Rann, and Kashmir. Salute to Indian army and air Force.
India is 7 times bigger than pak yet only 71 war was won and that's solely because there was a civil war in east pak and civil/military instability in west pak with no shared land border or sea connection unwinnable war for any country manekshaw stated that pak fought valiantly but given circumstances it was impossible to defend east pak. Pak still defended west pak front 65 was a stalemate yes pak didn't fulfill its objectives bit neither did india as the latter opened a front when headed towards lahore, after unable to vacate kashmir. So par soldiers in kashmir left the valley and defended lahore. Gen Ayub Khan mistake was to put nearly all of pak army into kashmir pak still punches way above its belt and is an impressive capable army
Bhai inkey sath hi ek podcast future of army and geopolitics pr bhi krna.
जितना नेहरू पर बोल रहे h , आज मोदीजी पर बोल पाएंगे? न कोई घुसा h” न कोई घुसा था" , लेकिन हमारे जवान कैसे चीनी सेना ने शहीद कर दिए। नरवाने जी की किताब क्या छपने और बिकने di जायेगी???
rann of kutch was probably saraswati rivers delta
Khemkaran you for got mentioning 'ASAL UTTAR' Artillery 91 Medium Regiment.
Direct firing 3.7" inch Howitzer destroying tank squadron not given due !!
After Balakot their immediate surprising air attack on Srinagar shows superiority of planning by Pakistan.Our Sukhoi were not able to take off properly and worst of all their air to air missiles had much higher range.We had to make emergency procurement high range missiles after this incident.Just goes to show even now how unprepared we are.All top rank officers of our Defence forces are guilty of lack of preparedness since 1947.Jawans and lower rank officers are simply fodder for them.I am glad i never thought of joining Indian Defence force.Why should one give their lives for the kind of citizens, Officers and Politicians that we have in india.Pakistan has always surprised us because we are relaxed ,not bold enough and are unable to visualise plannings of Pakistan which is 24*7.
V can feel the labour pain,2 hats off
हमेशा नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू, नेहरू पर आरोप लगाते रहते है... काम के ना काज के, दुश्मन सच्चाई की आवाज के......
Great sir ❤❤❤
But as far as PAF concerns it dominant sinc exclations till end of the war and upon the sky of Sargodha five IAF planes were short down and one Gnet plane was forcely get landed by them on Sargodha air port which is still in PAF musium along with the many flying dressess of Indian pilots captured durin war. As the PAF spokes person says , how far it is true should also be maintained here.
Do not expect any fair and balanced discussion from charlatans such as these, his next claim will be Biharis as 10ft tall.
Gnat was small plane with very short flying range and only used to defend the airbase. Forcibly landing at far away air base like sargodha is absolutely imagination.
@ravindersaini3747 Overactive imagination is claiming IAF had more air2air kills than PAF in 65 air-war.
If you tell me about winning any war i would believe it. The wae doesn't count on killing the innocent and unarmed especially babies hanging out from their mother's bossoms because the baby can make you shit on your pants @@rizwanhussain645
Our IAF was poorly equipped with outdated jets as compare to your starfighters gifted by USA. Despite that Indian pilots gave very good responses. So don't flatter yourself and I am not demeaning PAF pilots. As compared to PAF your army and navy are below par.
Good show.
Log aajkal bade itihaskaar bane hue hai par inko ye bhi pta hona chahiye jo india aaj hai 1947 se lekar 1990 tak vo vala india nahi tha. Hmara bht kuch dunia pe depend karta tha toh faisle uske according karne pdte the.
Great expert .. can’t seem to remember half the facts .. 👍🏽
thanks
Wing Commander Sajjad Haider he was who caused a lot of damage on our tanks
Shutup
Shiv verma is defending timid Niranjan Prasad.. Who was sacked twice in his military career.
Sir, I have read your book on china war. Are you writing any book on 1965 indo pak war
Yes. It was self respect. This is most Important than any land piece.
One fails to understand why India made HUGE concessions to Pakistan even when it had the upperhand both in 1965 and 1971. Leads one to wonder why both Indian leaders Shastri and Indira Gandhi were so naive and gullible.
They were naive to say the least.
Same answer as why a lot of Hindus still are ignorant or firmly believe all religions are equal, even after a 1000 years!
Same category believes Gandi single handedly won independence for India 😅
in 1965 war we were just half an hour away from capturing Lahore. This I heard from one son of army major.
When we were winning why Indira Gandhi surrendered all PAK POWs without asking back for our POWs who till date are rotting in pak camps without any idea of who they are.😰
@@vishwanathannatarajan2008bcz you had been lied. You div Commander flag jeep at Lahore sector was captured he ran back bare foot on a bicycle, you own three star general accused him of cowardice in his book. Indian army attack on all fronts had been halted and they had run out of steam. Your army was stopped 17 mile from Lahore at the first line of defense. Indian army could not cross first line of defense. That is why they stopped.
Mujhe doubt ho raha he bhai , Hajrat bal ka incident to jyada der nhi hui . Shayed ye vakyya 1965 war ke bahut baad me hua he , coz 65-71 ki jung mujhe yad he , lekin hajrat bal ki yad abhi dhundli nhi hui mere mind se .
Regal cinema house was in Delhi around connaught place .
In 1965, there were no Mi-8 helicopters. We equipped our Mi-4’s with guns. Kindly correct Mr. Kunal Verna’s statement.
That is correct sir… that was true even in 1971. I meant Mi-4, but said Mi-8.
My opinion about our Generals and chiefs most of them are cowered and Gutless. You have proved it and I experienced in my tenure in the Army.
I like it.
Indian Army is the beast 🦿🦾☠️💀 🇮🇳
Good Work ❤❤❤
If Mr. Shiv Kunal Verma's derogatory reference to Gen. Chaudhry is true.then the prople of India need to know point blank if the general was a coward or a traitor in pay from the enemy. Also, why no action was taken sgainst that general once the truth became known?
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The interviewer should allow the guest to say their piece instead of showing off his views and knowledge. Bhai you are skipping topics and jumping here and there
Jai Hind 🙏🙏
This person is taking a lot with irrelevant talk, what is taking about our army it's not predictable, our army didn't back not a single time.we proud of our army we love our Jai hind Jai bharat Jai indian army.
Bhai jab tume kuch zyadha pata nahi, toh yaha bachodi kyu kar rahe ho?
The world is very complicated. Tum paanch sal le bache toh nahi ho na?
Mr. Shiv Kunal Verma states that Gen.Chaudhsry blatantly lied to PM. Shastri about the amount of ammo left with the Indian defense forces, but does not provide a clarification ss to what prompted him to do this, or why no action was tsken against him when this must have come to light at a later date. Mr. Verma???
Because it was a rumour spread by General Choudhury’s enemy in the army and the bureaucracy. This garbage historian is talking rubbish.
Give me a break. And Gen. Chaudhry, who was the Commander in chief, was so naive, powerless, helpless, and stupid to be taken in and torpedoed in spite of being at the helm of affairs? It seems to me that he was not qualified or competent enough to be at the top in the first place.