Nissan GTR vs Porsche 911 Turbo S - Fifth Gear
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2016
- Tiff and Jason put two incredible cars up against each other in a drag race, g-force test and finally a head to head race.
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Meanwhile. Porsche: 997,991,992 Turbo. Nissan: well yes here you have another facelift i guess
Nissan have done several revisións of the GTR, stop the nonsense of "is a car from 2009" thats is not real, is like saying that "the 997 is a car from 2004". Porsche redesing the cars because the 911 have a more wide target in the market, the GTR is a straight sport track car that you can modify and go crazy, is not something that every Business Man or some richkid is gonna buy.
Big price difference you put that in th GTR and it will smoke that porsche!
No doubt the porsche is lighter and with the same amout of hp it should be faster!
@@ToyotaAristo The mere fact that they have refined the same powertrain since 2009 is the exact reason the GT-R holds its value.
GT-R badly needs a new gen
There's absolutely no shame in losing to a 911. I've no idea why people get so upset, Nissan or Porsche don't owe you a damn thing.
And let's be frank, most of us here wouldn't even have the driving skills to get the most out of these cars capabilities.
that gtr wasn't defeated by 911, but a 911 trurbo s. It's quite different from normal 911 & 911turbo, further more that's 911 turbo"S"!
洪睿輿 Semantics aside, the GTR is still a great car(not the best styling, imo) with dollar to performance ratio second to none. If you're a true lover of cars, you have no reason to defend one brand to another; unless you're on someone's payroll.
+洪睿輿 they got a stock gtr not a nismo or a black edition. They paired it with a 911 turbo s with is lighter and has the advantage.
Skills? Did it matter in this case, where both cars had steering wheel mounted shifters? All you do is floor the pedal at the beginning of the video, and hold it that way. "If something gets in the way, turn". If you need more torque flick down.
It the pant-wet fanboys that make up most of the horde unfortunately
Personally I find both cars butt-ugly (Porsche a tiny bit less) but the 918 fixes all that =))) # 918bestev4r
I love Porsche, I just can't get enough of them. Although with that said, 79k for GTR, that's an amazing deal.
125k for a turbo S!! Those were the days
Here in Aus it’s around 290k pounds for the current Turbo S....
Yeah, but adjust that for inflation and it’s very similar to today’s prices for a new 911 turbo s.
This was from far away the best head to head race i've ever seen,and i think wasn't just me
4:56 that cameraman has balls of steel!!
A fairer test would do 10 laps in each car with the drivers swapping after five laps in each. Then driver ability would be mostly negated as a variable, but....I'm sure the fans of the losing car would claim something wasn't fair.
Those cars are practically equal. Tiff's just a better driver. :)
All kinds of problems. They should race the clock with the same driver, also do more than one lap.
what? dude. it's all obviously staged to make closer and it more thrilling.
like the bugatti vs f1 race in top gear.
there was no race. did you really believe they overtook each other at every corner? lol
No, the Porsche is a better car. The drivers are both pro racers and in fast laps in the same car Jason usually just edges it. They've done it many times over the years. They can both do multiple fast laps on the limit in any car.
+andy elliott how can you say that when 0
+andy elliott how can you say that when their compairing the top of the line 911 and the base gtr compair it to nismo then will see
GTR is known for its unparalleled lauch control, but still they do a drag race and decide not to use it -_-
They probably used it but the 911 is faster in a straight line anyway
7ludi They didnt use it. The engine wasnt being reved steady at 3k rpm as it would.
no way that they would launch only 1 car using launch controll. due to the traction problems of the gtr they must have used it.
+ludde newbeast well clearly if you watch the video they didn't use launch control lmfao so I don't understand what your saying
The pdk launch is way better and u can launch it 50 times back to back with no problems the gtr only will launch 5 times
Love watching tiff drive
Porsche looked a handful to be honest i think in normal drivers hands it would be easier to extract performance from the gtr
Man... that looked like they had fun! I love the GTR (and all the Skyline's before it) but the Porsche is ofc a little better... you usually get what you pay for...in the case of the GTR you get alot more then what you pay for...
wheres the Nismo?
I like the fact that Tiff is going flat out in a race whilst wearing a blazer
Awesome! A 5 year old review of a 2 generation old 911 vs a GTR before about 5 updates/revisions
I hate to break it to you but there's a 2016 911 turbo s as well... And it would shit on a GTR
Caleb Pechumer hate to break it to you but the new nismo gtr will shit all over anything you throw at it. I love how people try and compare the porshe to the base model gtr. We are talking almost 70k diff in price lmfao. so atleast they can compare the nismo since it's closer to the price range but no one will do that comparison because obviously the Nismo is going to shit all over what ever car it goes against. GTR is Godzilla's and it just straight up crushes shit.
+Tyler Hoeve GTR Nismo would get shit on and so would the 2017 GTR
Caleb Pechumer gtr nismo wouod get shit on hahahahaha that's just to funny. Obviously you have know idea what your talking about kid
+Tyler Hoeve the Nismo is built and stripped down strictly for racing so why don't we take the 2016 Porsche 911 rsr flying lizard race car from the 24 hour Rolex race and put them against eachother and see what happens buddy. I know exactly what I'm talking about and I will never buy your Japanese piece of shit.
the damp track matches the commentary and narrative style.
Wow! that was amazingly intense
At the end of the day, you cant go wrong with the GTR. It would all depend on who’s the better driver behind the wheel.
I was so expecting the Porsche to win that last challenge, congratulations German engineers, you saved your asses.
this is the best race on youtube
Car channels can never make a even car race with the same set of tires. Tires are like the most important thing to comparing two cars
If you test the car with the tires the manufacturer installs, that's fair
Awesome video guys! :D
Always love a shootout between a Nissan and a Porsche.
Maybe I am a hayseed Australian, but why would you have a standing start drag race, a cornering 'g' test, and a 2 lap sprint, on a damp track? All that tells you in which one has the better rubber compound. By all means, have the contest and note the times, but POINT OUT the track is damp. Yes, the conditions may be the same for both, but the effects will not be. This is not really a straight or fair test of which is the better car or the quicker car in any of the 3 tests.
The U.K is always damp my friend lol
+googolplex²
Real world testing
I've owned 3 911's & had one remapped which gave me 540 bhp in an 2003 996 turbo. The GT-R's would literally school me. Say what you will, the kudos is in owning a Porsche but beware of the incredible Nissans. They never cease to amaze me & I don't mind telling you I'm a Porsche fanboy.
You don't have to lie on the Internet
lol, I have a chiped 996 T and with PSS10s that GT-R won't see where I went, even with a same level driver and same level tires.. as a P car owner you should know the weight and traction, not to mention brake advantage the 911 has.. the GT-R is fast, but is not in the same league, especially after a few hard laps.
I own 2 Veyrons...one is tuned by AMG that it churns 1590bhp. But I hate my Veyrons since both always lose to my neighbour's Nissan Skyline R34...750bhp only. He once did 478kmh on Autobahn.
I do not lie. Trust me, I have 3 other more hypercars...LaFerrari, P1 & 918.
+Imleh Zifah so whys your profile pic a golf
+Caleb Pechumer Because it's the first car that I drove...I was 5 when I owned it.
lol
2 of my all time favorites
why u uploading SD content as HD?
Great video!!
They are both absolutely awesome cars! I wonder why there is still no one single Japan competitor for the GTR. And don't talk about Lexus LFA, that's completely different car (RWD, N/A V10 vs. AWD TT V6).
I personally would choose Porsche because I like cars with unique layout, such as flat-six engine in the back. And also it's much lighter than Nissan. Regarding design, GTR looks amazing to me, but 911 too, it doesn't change too much over decades and it's still beautiful. When it comes to engine sound, I would say that Nissan sounds better than 911 Turbo (naturally aspirated 911 GT3 of course is a different thing). So, I would take 911 but that doesn't mean I don't like GTR :-)
What are the years for each car?
They always seem to run wide delibrately at every corner so the car behind gets in front. Obviously to make it more exciting to the viewer . Suppose it would be boring if the porsche just disappeared into the distance.
I haven't watched Fifth Gear much, but I'd be willing to bet that Tiff is a much better driver than the other guy.
I miss these duels....
Damn right he came back Saucer eyes.
Since the old days Variable turbo geometry made porsche the " next level "
Put original filming dates up. Makes it more interesting.
Would have loved to see more car action not human
1 driver 2 laps would if been better to see which is better on the track
you guys should change your camera . this video looks like the video of2010
They are both great cars and in the hands of professional drivers I think the Porsche is faster. I have done many track days in my 2013 GTR. I have never found an average driver in a Porsche Turbo or Turbo S to be consistently quicker when using similar rubber. It is definitely easier to drive the GTR at or close to the limit. The real surprise package in the Porsche stable is the Cayman GT4. Not nearly as fast on a power circuit, but on a pure handling circuit its hard to catch. Its a brilliant car.
Forgot to mention AWD and how it works?
if the fanboymobile loses there will be hell among the 12 year old fan base.
you sound like you're 13 though..
*i dont want to hear that from a unibrow mop headed rager. 😂😂😂😂*
@chiva1008 got wrecked
AHAHAHA classic gtr rage comment, talk about someone else age while looking like a disgusting slob of a human NIGGA YOU JUST GOT ROASTED
*i would like to know how after 30 seconds of posting your comment you had +2 hmmm come on bruh, y u lyin ;)*
Tiff is a professional racing driver too..so he should of just time lapped both cars for more accurate comparison. The Nissan was clearly better but is geared for better acceleration at the comprimise of top speed...where as the porche is the opposite.
I think you should race the clock
I wish I could have one of those cars
The GTR launch is legendary but Porsche 911 is 5 decades of German precision engineering and constant evolution of technology!
70k vs 125k hmmmm, GTR always being compared to Turbo S that cost almost twice as much. Someone who has money to buy 70k GBP car does not necessarily have money to buy 125k GBP car, these cars are not often crossed shopped. I find it funny the comment section is littered with GTR haters, makes you think who's really hung up on a nonissue
luv both of them! i own a 911 but there will also be a GTR in my garage ^^
would have been fairer to let tiff or jason drive both cars and time it like the stig on top gear
Love porsche 911... Best engineering icon and rich with heritage too.
Why aren't their comparisons against the gtr and a c4s they are both awd, I think gtr people are scared of a c4s. Ijs
This is an OLD comparison vid. I believe it's a 2011 GTR vs 2011 911
yeap cause Jason is not there anymore
More than that, Fifth gear is not here anymore. It's closed.
Fifth Gear is still being made, it's just on a different Channel.
yes .. 2017 Porsche Turbo S and GTR Nismo are about the same price ... one is new high tech and the other an aging Japanese supercar wanna be ... GTR glory days are over.
Right!
I will ALWAYS prefer the Porsche, but you have to admit it took Porsche lots of years of development to create such a car, Nissan is clearly showing what they are capable of in a significantly shorter period of time, I mean Nissan is not exactly what you call sport´s car maker. Yes they have their GTR´s and Fairladies, but they don´t make a living out of building sports cars
Sharp Blade
The problem is Nissan took a lot of notes and see how it’s done but lack the Engineering for it. There reliability after a couple of years there done.
The race is cool (although without helmets it is dangerous) but where is the lap time for each car separately?
Tiff was working well hard with that Porsche where as big nose was quite relaxed in the Nissan
I never knew Top Gear had a poor man's version of itself that wasn't Top Gear USA.
any one knows the music playing at 1:37
Test the 2017 Porsche 911 Turbo S!
Do anybody knows whats the exact colour name of this 911 turbo ?
Both are absolutely phenomenal cars and id happily own either (but would prefer the GTR). I don't understand why people are fishing for arguments over which one is better.
really liked these two real pilots
I owned both cars.Loved them both equally.
For the g force test the GT-R is capable of more g force unlike the Porsche that was pushing wide and got a lower g force . Also would of helped if the guy in the GT-R didn't have the AC on during the race ..
the last challenge is totally unfair! why not let them one after the other?? in this way they only interrupt each other in the corners!! bullshit!!
That's real racing right there
Rarely does a car that costs close to half that of a pricier rival come so, so close in performance.
In reality its probably even since driver skills differ.
I love GTR
What comes down to in such a close fast cars is the driver of course, and not the actual car.
This was entertaining. Not scientific by any measure. But entertainment
That race was not a race. They were clearly letting each other come past to give the sensation of ''drama''.
Two Legends
heard 5th gear was cancelled?
what kind of test was that...
at least they dont call it.... KNEE SAHN like the way yanks pronounce it hahahaha
Phonetically, it *is* pronounced "KNEE SAHN", which is how to pronounce Japanese numbers 2 and 3, respectively. Japanese numerals 二 (2), hiragana に or "ni", and 三 (3) hiragana さん or "san". This is why you often see car 23 for Nissan in motorsports.
Last words from video "Nissan lost, but it is still an ASTONISHING BARGAIN"
damn Germans know how to engineer a badass ride....the most exhilarating Drive I ever been in was with my aunt in her 911,she drove to grocery store , like we were in Nurburgring....I’ve been hooked ever since...
Weird in the used marketplace they are neck and neck at price now
Horsepower.. what about torque/Kw and weight?
Great Cars both of them, though as you say in different price brackets. Quality in Porsche way better. Was this the latest iteration of the 911T because thought the new one had circa 560bhp? Weight the GTR's only notable achilles heel!
ydont ever use Porsche and quality in the same sentence lol. did you forget about all those engine fires? not to mention the death of legendary actor Paul Walker. quality? NONSENSE!
Any fatality should be a major concern for manufactures and consumers alike and sometimes manufactures can be slow to react, though in Paul Walker's case and to our knowledge it has not been proved that Porsche or the Car itself was at fault. Having owned quite a number of of Porsches the overall quality of the cars, that is the way they they are screwed together and the quality of the materials used, is exceptional together with the engineering excellence employed in the design and manufacturing processes puts Porsche at the very top of their field. True there were a number of 991 GT3's that were prone to catch fire but this has happened to a number of manufactures over the years and as far as we are aware is now resolved.
In relation to Paul Walker I do admit to not being up-to speed on all the legal cases brought against Porsche by the families. A Federal Court ruled in April this year that Porsche could not be held responsible for the crash. This will be round one so we'll see and nobody likes to hear of anybody dying especially if corners were cut. However I do feel none of this is really relevant to the comment I was trying to make on today's Porsche Cars being quality items.
A drivers comparison!!!
These cars are pretty much even. The race was more of a drivers test.
Even being RWD the Porsche had good grip....the GTR is a VFM one but Porsche can do much better with an AWD setup.
The gtr in a lapping day is quick but not for long the brakes and tires die very quickly because of it's heavy weight
bloody fun video
They detuned the GT-R its supposed to have 552bhp not 5:30 and the GR-R has a waaaaaay faster pick than that they probably forgot to engage sport...
FFS. I thought I'd seen all the GT-R fanboy excuses, but I was wrong. How exactly did they de-tune the Nissan? Contrary to what Nissan fanboys believe, the GT-R is far from unbeatable, as this video (and countless others) shows.
A high-performance bargain? No arguments there. But unbeatable? That's funny.
Just accept that on the day, the better car one and stop whining with excuses or b/s about tuning the Nissan.
Or you forgot your knowledge about cars... This is obviously old footage... I know its hard for a Gt-R fanboy to recognize how old is the brick they are watching but you can always just check how the new 911 turbo s looks and compare it to the one in the video...and come to a conclusion that those arent current cars...
+JKOchoa _ when you tune a Nissan you HAVE to upgrade rods and other internals. The Porsche can be tuned to 650 with no such changes. Maybe changing the dump valves is all. The Nissan, as great as it is ( it's a superb car) just doesn't have the high quality build of Porsche
NOTHING gets of the line quicker than a GTR with launch engaged!!!
dynamo's background music
Why they never race a nismo track edition
Worst testing I have ever seen!
You should watch more tests. Would you like me to post the URL's of hundreds of worse tests and comparisons?
HOW THE FUCK ARE GTR's SO FAST? They even beat more powerful cars around a circuit despite being fat and heavy
Now that's fast and furious. Sorry I've just found this great vid.
Do you want a car from the company that builds the Versa or the company that builds Porsche, Porsche, Porsche......
The slipstream is real
should beat with the 2017 GTR model... because the turbo s is a newer model.
now if they used a nismo edition this would have ended differently
finally a car that tromps Godzilla
You cheeky devil. Lol
thing is spend 2 or 3k at litchfield imports and the GT-R will kill the porsche, and yes that's all, you can go silly with the
GT-R and spend thousands & go 1000bhp + but 3k will get you 650bhp
in fact most of them on the road or at least stage 1 or 2 as it's that easy and inexpensive.
just my opinion that's all.
I would say that is an even race, the win has more to do with how they drive then the performance of the car.
Build quality inside tho is where the difference is, Nissan uses materials that Porsche wouldn't even think about :D
yeah, lots of plastic.
Both cars are awesome, and the GTR is best for the price. GTRs have always been so advanced for the time and prooving good driving capabilities, but nowadays its not easy to be more advanced than others. I am a huge Porsche fan, but I adore the GTR of course. It was a bullshit for the last comparison, since they were driving together on the same laps at once. They did not do a separate time attack challenge, where the same driver, drives both cars, having spent some time to get used with each of the cars. They were clearly trying to keep distance on some corners, to avoid crashing into each other, so giving me a winner in the 2 lap race in this case is straight bullshit.
I miss Fifth Gear.
I'm very surprised the Porsche won the drag race
Is this Top Gear ordered from Wish?