Many successful musicians don’t listen to a lot of their peers, and that’s why many of them are great. They don’t follow trends or wish to be influenced.
My best friend ever (we met in first grade we're 68 and still tight. He worked in the music industry most of his life. Here are the real reasons they don't listen to each other. 1 some of them have egos the size of Mt. Everest. It pains them to know a competitor has put quality material. 2 they are very insecure. They can lose sleep if they learn a rival has a hit album, or now days 10,000,000 views you tube. Now to be fair some of them are consumed with their own career. Some spend 24/7 writing lyrics or writing catchy riffs.
Every single successful musician has been influenced in one way or another. The band is literally called "pink floyd" after two blues singers Syd was inspired by
It depends what is meant by peers. Musicians usually listen to stuff the public never hears. We get the corporate choices of good music, certainly if you got your taste from radio. Tony Banks talks about how he hardly listened to music after 1968, and its likely true. But as he says, he loved Petes solo stuff, and thats where the gated reverb came from. THOSE are 'peers'. U2, Van Halen, are not Pink Floyd peers. You listen to prog artists and their influences were very different from punk. So The Knife can sound kind of punkish, but its influence was The Nice, which was an underground jam band. Roger is one person that can't really be accused of 'selling out'. The Wall was about as uncommercial as it gets, and the tour lost money. The ONE hit off it was a disco song with only one verse and one chorus that Bob Ezrin created, not Waters. But insecurity comes with humanity. Big egos usually mask big insecurities, and the music industry is particularly tough because people equate 'success' with mass popular appeal. Roger seems a monumental prick in real life, but in a way its nice he's having some concert success now, because in the early nineties he was doing what NO seventies prog band wanted to do again, which is play small theatres. Genesis packed it in when they discovered they couldn't fill large arenas without Phil Collins. Roger plugged along with unsuccessful, but pretty brilliant albums while Pink Floyd were selling out massive arenas performing his songs.
@@coco_bold nobody was saying they don’t listen to music, and haven’t been influenced, of course they have. How do you think they learned their craft. It’s just that plenty of them don’t follow what is happening in the scene or listen so much to contemporaries within their own field.
Hate? Just differences of taste and opinion. Roger ended up collaborating with Eddie Van Halen. Moreover, I seed a lot of overlap between Roger's solo stuff and John Lydon's work with PIL. I could see a wonderful joint project emanating from the two of them if they were to team up.
It’s amazing how many people throw the word “hate” around so much these days. You can just dislike something or disagree. It’s Hate!. Anything for clicks these days
@@user-hc9xt8xf1i 1999. Lost Boys Calling track for The Legend of 1900 Soundtrack. Roger wrote and sang and Simon Phillips on drums and Eddie Van Halen played guitars on it.
Yeah, Roger is pretty much what he called Thom Yorke, a 'self obsessed, narcissistic, drippy little prick'. Dave Gilmour was always a far better person
The wiseman should know that genius musicians had always problems working with others, just like Roger waters with pink floyd, robbert Fripp from king crimson Roger Hodgson from supertramp...... So there's no point, just bullocks!
That's complete nonsense. Even Rick Wright didn't bear a grudge, because he knew that he had failed to live up to expectations due to drugs (cocaine) and personal problems. And Nick Mason is still friends with Roger. Only David still bears a grudge, which is daily fed by his wife Polly. The other musicians who have worked with him (Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, and many others) had no problem with him. You're just repeating media smears because he calls out the crimes of Israel.
I ❤️ do agree with Waters on his report of those things he said about the bands he don't 👍 like . That is an opinion these bands are not according to his liking .😊😊❤❤❤😊😊😊
Love acdc and pink floyd i know the guys in acdc didn't care for pink floyd either 2 different bands 2 different types of rock and roll i can understand why they didn't care for each other
To define Pink Floyd as "one the most important psychadelic rock groups in the history of music" is to ignore everything (brilliant) they did from 1969 on - which was NOT "psychadelic".
Well, they were never too far from psychedelia. Hell, prog rock probably wouldn't exist at all without psychedelic rock. But yeah, calling them psychedelic instead of progressive is pretty misinformed.
Geez, I can get why Waters doesn't like AC/DC or Van Halen, musically it's not for everyone, but callin' it narcissistic, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A LOOK IN A MIRROR ROG and him bashin' the Pistols and U2, I don't like either band (or Punk for that matter), but ideology wise the Pistols and Bono are on the same page as Roger.
People can have whatever opinions they want of Roger, but remember this, it will never take away from the fact that he's a genius who wrote great music that we listen to.
Waters once described the Sex Pistols as "Nothing but just empty posturing". Their one and only album 'Never Mind The Bollocks. Proves that not to be the case at all. Johnny Rotten actually named his pet hamster Sid after Syd Barrett. Rumour has it that the Pistols actually wanted Syd Barrett to produce their debut album. They actually went to Chelsea Cloisters to look for Syd. But they ended up with Chris Thomas who had to be the mediator between Waters & Gilmour during the making of Dark Side of the Moon. The Damned also wanted Syd Barrett to produce their second album but ended up recording it with Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason instead at Floyd's Britannia Row studio in 1977. But I totally agree with Waters on U2. They are pure bollocks.
The Sex pistols sucked and I'm glad they were destroyed.I would beat the Cornish pastie out of Johnny Rotten and Sid Vicious one more time and squish their heads into the concrete.
Never mind the bollocks is pretty brilliant, especially considering how young they were. Brilliant songs and I have no time for punk. Actually much of Animals was very punk. But sid vicious certainly was 'posturing'. Johnny Rotten wasn't though, as he was being beaten up for singing 'she aint' no human being' by idiots. Johnny Lyddon is pretty much a Roger Waters acolyte.
@@user-jp5nc8zf7m Sid Vicious certainly was posturing. He was more image than musical style. He went out of his way to come on as an SMF while the others (incl. Glen Matlock) always were serious. Vicious couldn't even play his bass at all.
Why? I'm not much of a U2 fan myself. I would say that I LOVE Pink Floyd. Given the choice of languishing in hell and only being allowed to Roger Water's solo material or U2 for eternity, give me U2 every day. Especially after hearing Waters destroy DSOTM.
@@martinjcooke72 Well Martin, one man's heaven is another man's hell!!! U2 just doesn't run very deep for me, for the most part. Much of the pre-Wall Pink Floyd catalogue is about as deep as rock music gets in my books and some of the stuff on The Wall is pretty mind blowing too. I just don't find Roger's solo stuff compelling. To each his own!
@@robertmcmanus9185 - I never heard his solo stuff. I’m not a fan. I love syd barrett and I hate U2. Dark side is an amazing album and the wall has its moments- I saw the original stage show and found it a bit clumsy.
@@martinjcooke72 I pretty much love all Pink Floyd up to Animals. The Wall has some great songs, but for the most part I don't care for it. I've seen Waters solo 3 times (Us and Them was a great show) with tons of Floyd and just a little solo material. Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking was great when he did Floyd stuff but boring for the solo stuff. The last tour ensured I'll never see him again. Roger's bells and whistles made his stage show for Us and Them amazing, but David Gilmour's Rattle that Lock show musically left Roger miles behind. What did you think of the "redux" version of DSOTM?
This reminds me of Pete Townsend hating Led Zeppelin. I like some of their stuff but the aspect i hate is the lack of credit given to the original songwriters
in the past he has expressed effusive admiration for Neil Young, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Ray Charles, Dylan, Lennon, Joe Tex, Thelonius Monk, Leonard Cohen, Chet Baker, Puccini, Mahler & Sophie B Hawkins, and he has collaborated with Jeff Beck, Don Henley, Eric Clapton & the Beach Boys.
The wall was right on point for the times. I think he processed a lot of his demons on that album. I recently listend to KAOS for the first time in years. I love it. Bands like floyd lyrically are few and far between these days. Not many with lyrical ability. All that chart shit, 3 minute formula to me is brain damage.
Rotten is definitely a fan of Peter Hammill. Van Der Graff Generator ( listen to his Capital Radio Show' 1977) and Kate Bush but I don't know about Foreigner. I think Steve Jones was secretly listening to bands like Journey and Foreigner on their Ill fated American Tour of the Bible belt in 1978. But you never know with Rotten he loves all sorts of music. Tho I'm convinced he'd say Bollox 2U2 😂😂😂
Pink Floyd by - about 1977 - became a little too serious about themselves and - in my opinion - unintentionally funny (lyric on “Animals” that goes “ha ha, charade you are..” - could those words apply to Pink Floyd themselves ?). Anyway they did create some great music before then - the “in-fighting”, etc is irrelevant to many of their fans; as regards other bands - and those that Waters hates - he does “hit the nail on the head” as regards U2 in my humble opinion - any band that can pen the lyric “Or are you like Jesus talking to the lepers in your head” deserves to be ridiculed !
Re: taking themselves too seriously, kinda got that idea when I saw the film Pink Floyd Live at Pompei. Back then even as a kid who didn't question the brilliance of these mega stars, I had to admit to myself, this is bullshit. Its one thing to make over hyped theatrical albums, its another thing to believe you're important in some way for it.
Roger is a staunch atheist. Bono certainly isn't, he's a Christian. What's wrong with expressing a belief in your lyrics, as long as it's not in the yucky Amy Grant fashion. George Harrison and Johnny Cash have wrote a lot of songs about God. Many artists have.
@@jamesheine2955 Neil Peart was an Agnostic borderline Atheist in the end and wrote songs bashing religion in the last two Rush albums Snakes and Arrows (Faithless) and Clockwork Angels (BU2B and Watchmaker was a blast at God). Even Britney Spears is an Atheist now and blames God for her Conservatorship and breakdown of relationship with her sons.
Nonsense ,That is just because you disagree,, No person with a good heart should....But where´s yours, He´s not dum humble either ....People do not like when they support bullshit...
Punk was influenced by prog, and pink floyd is one of the pilars of PROG just like genesis, Yes, King crimson, rare bird, camel, gentle giant, supertramp.
name a punk song influenced by any of that shit you just listed. unlike you I was 16 in 1976, and punks spat on shit like that. Punk was the answer to shit like that.
@@beecee2205 Name a single band who did something that the shit I listed did not ^^ Unlike You No one Today talks About Punk.you don't own the genre so relaxe
@@beecee2205 Okay, except I went to see the Dead Boys 40th anniversary show for Young Loud and Snotty. Two of Hamilton Ontario's most famous punker musicians were there. I stood right between them. Jethro Tull's guitarist Martin Barre played a few months later at a different bar; maybe it was the other way around. Both of the same guys were there. Lots of people appreciate a wide range of music. I've got no problem if Waters hates all sorts of stuff. DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, Animals, Meddle, etc. make me not care a damn about what Waters thinks about other bands. I only wish he could be decent to his former brothers in guitars. Shame.
I hated Sex Pistols too- really was just noise- never cared for punk music. U2 is highly overrated and Bono sucks imo. Never liked AC/DC or Van Halen either- not a hard rock-heavy metal. He’s so wrong about PF, still a really great band even without Waters. Of course Waters was a major member of the band when he was in it
"Roger's guitar playing is far more classically "orientated" in origin however....". I feel lost. I thought Roger played bass and it was Gilmour and Barrett who were the guitarists. I understand Waters not connecting with other bands that are so different from his own music. I do expect more of a you tube channel talking about one of the biggest bands of all time and not knowing who plays what instrument.
He's very sexy. 80s hair is best. I'm all for him hating those bands even if I like one or two of them. It's true that Sex Pistols were manufactured. They had a svengali. His comments about Sid were harsh but Sid was a bastard to women (Polystyrene), so I don't care.
I agree with most of Roger's tastes here. I can't stand AC/DC, and the Sex Pistols were mostly hype. John Lydon, on the other hand, is an interesting artist. And Eddie Van Halen was certainly a virtuoso, but he had terrible taste.
My piano teacher once said to me you shouldn’t close your ears to anything until you have given it a proper chance. Then if you find that you really don’t like it you should keep that to yourself.
I would think Rick was the easiest guy to bully cos he was a nice guy. Dave wouldn't take his shit. Plus Roger knew he needed that guitar sound to make it sound like Floyd.
You don't know what you're talking about, but this is a common trait of UA-cam comments. Back in the days people like you used to spew their bullcrap in a bar after a few drinks; nowadays they type it on a keyboard for the whole world to read.
U2 dissing Floyd? Then why did The Edge so blatantly rip off David Gilmour’s echo/delay sounds via Run Like Hell? The delayed sounds Gilmour achieves inspired half off U2’s catalog!
That delay effect is a fairly standard technique, so really not much there- what's more bogus is Edge being considered a guitar player in the first place!
Now 90% hate him because of his big mouth stick to writing songs. David still the best thing that ever happened to Pink Floyd anyways. E abuse you wou never of been rich with Sid Barrett
Ima big fan of Waters and it just does not interest me whether the music he does not like is the smeasmineor not ,its irrelevant ...Why do somanyhave to go into this gossip he likes her and she doesnt like him shit all the time,, Just get on with your own stuff ,,,That is what Waters said he heard fromThe Beatles, Just get on with your own music ,,,Tha was the Beatles best contribution,, Be yourself and try not to be repetative , ...
It's possible to like Waters AND Gilmour. You don't have to choose sides. They're not your mates. They're just musos. And he's right about Bono.. man thinks he's Jesus Christ..
Roger waters in the last years as he gets older he becomes cynical spreading bad energy and hate not only to other musicians, I always had more respect to David Gilmore
He admired them and that shows character because personally they did not get on well at all... Waters seriouse, The Beatles most often jokers and sarcastic,,(John) .. The Beatles unlocked the doors that each make thier own music and develop, Waters said heard that from them in Sgt PepperAlbum, He knew better then the way forward for his music, ...
Eddie Van Halen played on a track for Roger and conveniently after Eddie dies, Roger trashes him. David Gilmour ON THE OTHER HAND played with Eddie at a Les Paul Tribute in 1988 and each complimented on each others styles. Roger even hated Neil Peart and called him a lousy drummer and a crappy lyricist. Neil got better in lyrics from 1977 onwards, Roger on the other hand got stifled after The Wall.
This seems to be an anti Waters video but anyone at the world front of music for 60 years is going to be opinionated for fucks sake. He calls it like he sees it and that makes some snowflakes uncomfortable. Gilmour was all for the Ukraine war but says nothing to support Assange makes him a shitlib. Long live Roger Waters!!
Really,… The fact that he is spending time and money desperately trying to save an indigenous people from being slowly ethnically cleansed is ill informed and a brat. You haven’t a clue dude. The man has a heart of gold and balls of steel.
@@Jominycrocket0 I see 400 million Muslims hating 9 million Indigenous Jews. How noble of Waters to cheer for the powerful and ignore the underdogs. You sound pretty damn young yourself.
I don't know if the narrator is taking quotes out of context but a lot of this seems awfully petty, egotistical and trivial. Why would Waters waste time energy on other people's rubbish? Bored I guess, buying too much into the media hype rockstar celebrity status? I say that with nothing but love and respect but seriously get over yourself. However I do remember back when I was in high school there was this ridiculous hate for anything that was like a holdover from the hippy dippy 60s era by the punks and the new generation who were living in the aftermath of so much disillusionment with some of the more naive utopian idealism that failed. And Pink Floyd was often treated, wrongly I think, as representing everything rotten from the cynical and total sell out by the baby boomer generation. So I get why Roger feel somewhat pissed about that time and how the group was being used as a punching bag by some of the anarchist punks. Still why act like an old fart? Young and immature people are always going to be less than fully reasonable charitable and broad minded when it comes to evaluating the older generations contribution to the general insanity and stupidity of the realities of the present moment. Really people do change and the things everyone was willing to fight to the death over seem in retrospect to be completely foolish and silly, so why hold the grudge? Everyone has their own favorite passions, opinions and aesthetic taste, does that mean your taste and aesthetics is special and better than others? I mean yes U2 can get pretentious and annoying real quick but how can anyone say that they are not a great rock and roll band? That really smacks of art snobbery which is lame to put it mildly, you are so much better than that, and the people who love Pink Floyd's music deserve so much better than that too.
I agree with Waters. Van Halen, I do not understand the obsession with the guy. And most of his music was synthesisers. His guitar is like listening to a computer Ai play. And yes Floyd was a spent creative force after 85. Those albums were terrible. So were Roger’s mind you. AC/DC quite a few songs are brilliantly good. But the rest terrible. Sex Pistols were just idiots. One album proves the point. But PIL did a few very good tracks. U2, I mean if Bono isn’t a parody of himself I don’t know what is.
Floyd was never a creative force, their songs belong in an elevator. EVH was even more expiremental, and his expirements more impactful than anything Floyd did. But to summarize Waters argument if its a band thats actually good, or if its Floyd which he feels a personal inflated over importance to, to an overrated band, he hates it.
@@tw19771 nah. Though you make a few good points, I think my argument is better than yours. But music is subjective in the end. You obviously like Van Halen guitar solos, I don’t. But you’re probably right. Everyone seems to worship the guy.
@@Mambojambo157 I'm not really talking about the music. You can't realistically compare PF to VH, both are sonically in completely different spaces. I'm talking about as musicians and experimentation. EVH was a cut above Floyd, and really anybody else. In that avenue. If it wasn't for EVH for instance. More than likely, rthe technology for guitars and amplification would have never got passed the late-60's. Even in the Mid-70's amps and guitars were the same as in the late 60's. And he directly pushed guitar playing forward. So yeah, his expirements were more impactful. Musically Floyd and Halen are Apples and Oranges. And I don't care for Floyd (And believe me I've tried to get into this band) PF is boring to me, but I can see why DSOTM And The Wall would appeal to a wide audience and radio airplay. Even though I don't care for those records. And we wouldn't be talking about it, if Roger wasn't busy criticizing everybody, including EVH, and its an argument the old man needs to leave alone.
@@Marius_vanderLubbe not when people are paying a lot of money to hear music. A rock concert is 2 hours + of an escape for people. People dont need to hear preaching at a show.
@@mooch514preaching is a certain part of it. Todd Rundgren was criticised for advising Trump fans not to come to his gigs. The basis was that during a gig he may make the odd comment that would upset them but it was 99% music
Would be interesting to listen something trascendental or at least enjoyable from him other than a late 70s rebellious opera prima. So easy to be considered an activist today, just raise your fist and choose a trendy topic.
I used to like these kind of "art rock " bands like Pink Floyd but as I get older I prefer my rock music to be more visceral and to the point. Motorhead are a favorite. Pink Floyd just seem pretentious. The music is mostly boring and simple soft rock at heart. If I want more sophisticated music there's about 600 years of classical music to explore.
Motorhead is too noisy and loud for me now. I take it you love Britney Spears and go to LGBTQ clubs dancing to her 1990s/2000s dance crap and also you love Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Taylor Swift.
This is silly, taken out of context, comments done years back as if they were recent, just idiotic most of the comments on Pink Floyd, even if he said them once. He is a Narcissistic guy, and quite arrogant, and full of biases. Always whining and complaining.
Many successful musicians don’t listen to a lot of their peers, and that’s why many of them are great. They don’t follow trends or wish to be influenced.
My best friend ever (we met in first grade we're 68 and still tight. He worked in the music industry most of his life. Here are the real reasons they don't listen to each other. 1 some of them have egos the size of Mt. Everest. It pains them to know a competitor has put quality material. 2 they are very insecure. They can lose sleep if they learn a rival has a hit album, or now days 10,000,000 views you tube. Now to be fair some of them are consumed with their own career. Some spend 24/7 writing lyrics or writing catchy riffs.
roger followed trends though, listen to his solo albums
Every single successful musician has been influenced in one way or another. The band is literally called "pink floyd" after two blues singers Syd was inspired by
It depends what is meant by peers. Musicians usually listen to stuff the public never hears. We get the corporate choices of good music, certainly if you got your taste from radio. Tony Banks talks about how he hardly listened to music after 1968, and its likely true. But as he says, he loved Petes solo stuff, and thats where the gated reverb came from.
THOSE are 'peers'. U2, Van Halen, are not Pink Floyd peers. You listen to prog artists and their influences were very different from punk. So The Knife can sound kind of punkish, but its influence was The Nice, which was an underground jam band.
Roger is one person that can't really be accused of 'selling out'. The Wall was about as uncommercial as it gets, and the tour lost money. The ONE hit off it was a disco song with only one verse and one chorus that Bob Ezrin created, not Waters.
But insecurity comes with humanity. Big egos usually mask big insecurities, and the music industry is particularly tough because people equate 'success' with mass popular appeal. Roger seems a monumental prick in real life, but in a way its nice he's having some concert success now, because in the early nineties he was doing what NO seventies prog band wanted to do again, which is play small theatres. Genesis packed it in when they discovered they couldn't fill large arenas without Phil Collins. Roger plugged along with unsuccessful, but pretty brilliant albums while Pink Floyd were selling out massive arenas performing his songs.
@@coco_bold nobody was saying they don’t listen to music, and haven’t been influenced, of course they have. How do you think they learned their craft. It’s just that plenty of them don’t follow what is happening in the scene or listen so much to contemporaries within their own field.
A bit ironic that Roger doesn't like what he calls "narcissistic music."
I agree. He’s a brilliant musician and a wonderful songwriter. But I think he’s a horrible person
@@robert48719 ok robert48719
Yeah, it really tears me apart- to love so much of his music and realize he’s such a wretched example of humanity
@@robert48719how he’s one of the nicest people and fights for what’s right and he was young when he sued the band
Definitely some truth there.
I KNEW IT! Right at the start I said to myself: I bet Pink Floyd will be on his list
Big fan if his art but not so much of his personality . But i understand him . I guess he had to be the man he is to create the art that he did .
He's lived long enough to become the villain.
he sounds like a fun person to be around
Hahhahahahahahahah!!!!!!
Hate? Just differences of taste and opinion. Roger ended up collaborating with Eddie Van Halen. Moreover, I seed a lot of overlap between Roger's solo stuff and John Lydon's work with PIL. I could see a wonderful joint project emanating from the two of them if they were to team up.
It’s amazing how many people throw the word “hate” around so much these days. You can just dislike something or disagree. It’s Hate!. Anything for clicks these days
@LanceEads : Please tell me when Roger collaborated with Eddie Van Halen? I am really curious in what music that resulted.
@@user-hc9xt8xf1i 1999. Lost Boys Calling track for The Legend of 1900 Soundtrack. Roger wrote and sang and Simon Phillips on drums and Eddie Van Halen played guitars on it.
Taylor Swift’s songwriting is a celebration of narcissism.
It's easy to understand why the musicians who worked with him before, are not speaking with him anymore.
Yeah, Roger is pretty much what he called Thom Yorke, a 'self obsessed, narcissistic, drippy little prick'. Dave Gilmour was always a far better person
Do what he did and only then, you can build an opinion
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I see what you mean but the "wiseman" has a point 😉 !
The wiseman should know that genius musicians had always problems working with others, just like Roger waters with pink floyd, robbert Fripp from king crimson Roger Hodgson from supertramp...... So there's no point, just bullocks!
That's complete nonsense. Even Rick Wright didn't bear a grudge, because he knew that he had failed to live up to expectations due to drugs (cocaine) and personal problems. And Nick Mason is still friends with Roger. Only David still bears a grudge, which is daily fed by his wife Polly. The other musicians who have worked with him (Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, and many others) had no problem with him. You're just repeating media smears because he calls out the crimes of Israel.
I ❤️ do agree with Waters on his report of those things he said about the bands he don't 👍 like . That is an opinion these bands are not according to his liking .😊😊❤❤❤😊😊😊
Love acdc and pink floyd i know the guys in acdc didn't care for pink floyd either 2 different bands 2 different types of rock and roll i can understand why they didn't care for each other
The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think
Oh, by the way, which one's pink?
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@@janekwiatkowski5923 haha yes you’re right ,but only in this song.
W A T E R S
To define Pink Floyd as "one the most important psychadelic rock groups in the history of music" is to ignore everything (brilliant) they did from 1969 on - which was NOT "psychadelic".
Well, they were never too far from psychedelia. Hell, prog rock probably wouldn't exist at all without psychedelic rock. But yeah, calling them psychedelic instead of progressive is pretty misinformed.
@@BrendanJSmith calling them prog rock doesn't really work either...
@@heats13crazynesshow so?
I was thinking the same.
I mean they did release a song in 1970 called “Alan’s Psychedelic Breakfast.”
He's so f*cking right about Sex Pistols lol
Punk music had some balls and energy. Pink Floyd is mostly cold and aloof soft rock
@@user-qb1sm3rk9r I always thought punk was a band that wanted to play metal, but didn't know any chords or scales and just went at it.
@@user-qb1sm3rk9ranything you like but no quality.
Geez, I can get why Waters doesn't like AC/DC or Van Halen, musically it's not for everyone, but callin' it narcissistic, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A LOOK IN A MIRROR ROG and him bashin' the Pistols and U2, I don't like either band (or Punk for that matter), but ideology wise the Pistols and Bono are on the same page as Roger.
People can have whatever opinions they want of Roger, but remember this, it will never take away from the fact that he's a genius who wrote great music that we listen to.
Waters once described the Sex Pistols as "Nothing but just empty posturing".
Their one and only album 'Never Mind The Bollocks. Proves that not to be the case at all.
Johnny Rotten actually named his pet hamster Sid after Syd Barrett. Rumour has it that the Pistols actually wanted Syd Barrett to produce their debut album. They actually went to Chelsea Cloisters to look for Syd.
But they ended up with Chris Thomas who had to be the mediator between Waters & Gilmour during the making of Dark Side of the Moon.
The Damned also wanted Syd Barrett to produce their second album but ended up recording it with Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason instead at Floyd's Britannia Row studio in 1977.
But I totally agree with Waters on U2. They are pure bollocks.
The Sex pistols sucked and I'm glad they were destroyed.I would beat the Cornish pastie out of Johnny Rotten and Sid Vicious one more time and squish their heads into the concrete.
The Sex Pistols were crap.
Never mind the bollocks is pretty brilliant, especially considering how young they were. Brilliant songs and I have no time for punk. Actually much of Animals was very punk. But sid vicious certainly was 'posturing'. Johnny Rotten wasn't though, as he was being beaten up for singing 'she aint' no human being' by idiots.
Johnny Lyddon is pretty much a Roger Waters acolyte.
@@user-jp5nc8zf7m Sid Vicious certainly was posturing. He was more image than musical style. He went out of his way to come on as an SMF while the others (incl. Glen Matlock) always were serious. Vicious couldn't even play his bass at all.
@@jamesheine2955 A precursor of things to come.
Gotta respect him for despising U2
Why? I'm not much of a U2 fan myself. I would say that I LOVE Pink Floyd. Given the choice of languishing in hell and only being allowed to Roger Water's solo material or U2 for eternity, give me U2 every day. Especially after hearing Waters destroy DSOTM.
@@robertmcmanus9185/ you’d definitely know you were hell in that case
@@martinjcooke72 Well Martin, one man's heaven is another man's hell!!! U2 just doesn't run very deep for me, for the most part. Much of the pre-Wall Pink Floyd catalogue is about as deep as rock music gets in my books and some of the stuff on The Wall is pretty mind blowing too. I just don't find Roger's solo stuff compelling. To each his own!
@@robertmcmanus9185 - I never heard his solo stuff. I’m not a fan. I love syd barrett and I hate U2. Dark side is an amazing album and the wall has its moments- I saw the original stage show and found it a bit clumsy.
@@martinjcooke72 I pretty much love all Pink Floyd up to Animals. The Wall has some great songs, but for the most part I don't care for it. I've seen Waters solo 3 times (Us and Them was a great show) with tons of Floyd and just a little solo material. Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking was great when he did Floyd stuff but boring for the solo stuff. The last tour ensured I'll never see him again. Roger's bells and whistles made his stage show for Us and Them amazing, but David Gilmour's Rattle that Lock show musically left Roger miles behind. What did you think of the "redux" version of DSOTM?
Love him so much!
The sex pistols didn’t like music tbf and it showed 😂👌🏻
This reminds me of Pete Townsend hating Led Zeppelin. I like some of their stuff but the aspect i hate is the lack of credit given to the original songwriters
But Led Zeppelin dusted the WHO.The Who sucked.
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…i wouldn’t say “the Who sucked”
He wasnt very fond of Richard Wright RIP
He was jealous because Richard Wright was musically talented and good-looking which Waters was neither.
It would be interesting as well to know who he likes.
John Lennon , Beatles , Neil Young
@@Scarlett_Azure Thanks.
Bob Dylan
in the past he has expressed effusive admiration for Neil Young, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Ray Charles, Dylan, Lennon, Joe Tex, Thelonius Monk, Leonard Cohen, Chet Baker, Puccini, Mahler & Sophie B Hawkins, and he has collaborated with Jeff Beck, Don Henley, Eric Clapton & the Beach Boys.
@@zootsanchez Thanks. There are several good ones in your list.
Lydon says he likes roger now loool
Pink Floyd and Rogers rift never went to court, Roger backed down on advice, maybe from his lawyers
The wall was right on point for the times. I think he processed a lot of his demons on that album. I recently listend to KAOS for the first time in years. I love it. Bands like floyd lyrically are few and far between these days. Not many with lyrical ability. All that chart shit, 3 minute formula to me is brain damage.
roger is the GOAT
Roger is a difficult man, even for himself. If you have too many of those people, you won't get anywhere
he was right about u2
Johnny Rotten is a fan of Kate Bush, Foreigner and Peter Hammill. I doubt he disliked Floyd that much.
Rotten is definitely a fan of Peter Hammill. Van Der Graff Generator ( listen to his Capital Radio Show' 1977) and Kate Bush but I don't know about Foreigner. I think Steve Jones was secretly listening to bands like Journey and Foreigner on their Ill fated American Tour of the Bible belt in 1978. But you never know with Rotten he loves all sorts of music. Tho I'm convinced he'd say Bollox 2U2 😂😂😂
@@twistedspanner I read somewhere about one of them enthusing about the sax on Foreigner's "Urgent".
Hes met Roger and says he really likes him and that they made great music. He admits it was all a silly statement.
Like much of punk I think Rottens I Hate Pink Floyd shirt was for shock and attention with no real meaning
Pink Floyd by - about 1977 - became a little too serious about themselves and - in my opinion - unintentionally funny (lyric on “Animals” that goes “ha ha, charade you are..” - could those words apply to Pink Floyd themselves ?). Anyway they did create some great music before then - the “in-fighting”, etc is irrelevant to many of their fans; as regards other bands - and those that Waters hates - he does “hit the nail on the head” as regards U2 in my humble opinion - any band that can pen the lyric “Or are you like Jesus talking to the lepers in your head” deserves to be ridiculed !
Re: taking themselves too seriously, kinda got that idea when I saw the film Pink Floyd Live at Pompei. Back then even as a kid who didn't question the brilliance of these mega stars, I had to admit to myself, this is bullshit.
Its one thing to make over hyped theatrical albums, its another thing to believe you're important in some way for it.
Roger is a staunch atheist. Bono certainly isn't, he's a Christian. What's wrong with expressing a belief in your lyrics, as long as it's not in the yucky Amy Grant fashion. George Harrison and Johnny Cash have wrote a lot of songs about God. Many artists have.
@@jamesheine2955 Neil Peart was an Agnostic borderline Atheist in the end and wrote songs bashing religion in the last two Rush albums Snakes and Arrows (Faithless) and Clockwork Angels (BU2B and Watchmaker was a blast at God). Even Britney Spears is an Atheist now and blames God for her Conservatorship and breakdown of relationship with her sons.
Grumpy? He's alright, jack now go count that cash
I have a ton of respect for his obvious talent, but he really fancy's himself the king of Turd Town!
Nonsense ,That is just because you disagree,, No person with a good heart should....But where´s yours, He´s not dum humble either ....People do not like when they support bullshit...
Punk was influenced by prog, and pink floyd is one of the pilars of PROG just like genesis, Yes, King crimson, rare bird, camel, gentle giant, supertramp.
Punk and new wave were influenced by glam and prog. They all go in together.
name a punk song influenced by any of that shit you just listed. unlike you I was 16 in 1976, and punks spat on shit like that. Punk was the answer to shit like that.
@@beecee2205 Name a single band who did something that the shit I listed did not ^^ Unlike You No one Today talks About Punk.you don't own the genre so relaxe
@@beecee2205 Okay, except I went to see the Dead Boys 40th anniversary show for Young Loud and Snotty. Two of Hamilton Ontario's most famous punker musicians were there. I stood right between them. Jethro Tull's guitarist Martin Barre played a few months later at a different bar; maybe it was the other way around. Both of the same guys were there. Lots of people appreciate a wide range of music. I've got no problem if Waters hates all sorts of stuff. DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, Animals, Meddle, etc. make me not care a damn about what Waters thinks about other bands. I only wish he could be decent to his former brothers in guitars. Shame.
@@beecee2205I'M glad I was able to sleep through the , two years of the shite they called punk 🖕
Syd knew the score all along
I hated Sex Pistols too- really was just noise- never cared for punk music. U2 is highly overrated and Bono sucks imo.
Never liked AC/DC or Van Halen either- not a hard rock-heavy metal. He’s so wrong about PF, still a really great band even without Waters. Of course Waters was a major member of the band when he was in it
"Roger's guitar playing is far more classically "orientated" in origin however....". I feel lost. I thought Roger played bass and it was Gilmour and Barrett who were the guitarists. I understand Waters not connecting with other bands that are so different from his own music. I do expect more of a you tube channel talking about one of the biggest bands of all time and not knowing who plays what instrument.
U2 is boring
I think Rog has seen Gran Torino
Roger is the goat
Just a guy who was never properly humbled, told to sit tf down and shut tf up etc
He has a big pair of balls. Don’t despair bc you don’t 😂
Agree with Roger about AC/DC.
The same screaming song repeated over and over again....static noise!
Water’s is very temperamental and insecure.
He's very sexy. 80s hair is best. I'm all for him hating those bands even if I like one or two of them. It's true that Sex Pistols were manufactured. They had a svengali. His comments about Sid were harsh but Sid was a bastard to women (Polystyrene), so I don't care.
What a charming guy
But who in the world could hate AC/DC?
Picture Waters and Ginger at the country club
Don't think you too would have one they ripped off ripped off just about every one ofPink Floyd motifs mainly the rhythmic 16th bass lines .
I agree with most of Roger's tastes here. I can't stand AC/DC, and the Sex Pistols were mostly hype. John Lydon, on the other hand, is an interesting artist. And Eddie Van Halen was certainly a virtuoso, but he had terrible taste.
My piano teacher once said to me you shouldn’t close your ears to anything until you have given it a proper chance.
Then if you find that you really don’t like it you should keep that to yourself.
I think U2 might prove to be an exception to those rules!
It might have been easier to ask him who he liked? Slán.
Technically 'The Door's' are ahead of 'Pink Floyd' in all respects
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Roger could even find conflict with the most peaceful guy in this world called David Gilmour .
I would think Rick was the easiest guy to bully cos he was a nice guy. Dave wouldn't take his shit.
Plus Roger knew he needed that guitar sound to make it sound like Floyd.
You don't know what you're talking about, but this is a common trait of UA-cam comments. Back in the days people like you used to spew their bullcrap in a bar after a few drinks; nowadays they type it on a keyboard for the whole world to read.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 So very true.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 I don’t talk with police.
@@twistedspanner yeah yeah u right
Big mistake at 3:28: Roger is not a guitarist, he plays bass
He should chest up with David from disturbed... see how that works out
Disturbed dude is the secret LGBTQ lover of Alex Jones (Infowars loon).
What the fuck do I care who Roger Waters hates, especially since it seems to be EVERYONE?
Ego, and more ego!!!
U2 dissing Floyd? Then why did The Edge so blatantly rip off David Gilmour’s echo/delay sounds via Run Like Hell? The delayed sounds Gilmour achieves inspired half off U2’s catalog!
That delay effect is a fairly standard technique, so really not much there- what's more bogus is Edge being considered a guitar player in the first place!
Now 90% hate him because of his big mouth stick to writing songs. David still the best thing that ever happened to Pink Floyd anyways. E abuse you wou never of been rich with Sid Barrett
Love Roger
Ima big fan of Waters and it just does not interest me whether the music he does not like is the smeasmineor not ,its irrelevant ...Why do somanyhave to go into this gossip he likes her and she doesnt like him shit all the time,, Just get on with your own stuff ,,,That is what Waters said he heard fromThe Beatles, Just get on with your own music ,,,Tha was the Beatles best contribution,, Be yourself and try not to be repetative , ...
It's possible to like Waters AND Gilmour. You don't have to choose sides. They're not your mates. They're just musos. And he's right about Bono.. man thinks he's Jesus Christ..
I agree in most of Waters claims here!
Idem
Roger waters in the last years as he gets older he becomes cynical spreading bad energy and hate not only to other musicians, I always had more respect to David Gilmore
Roger hates everyone but himself
Waters says *other* bands make "narcissistic" music.
Guess the man doesn't own a mirror, real or metaphorical.
Waters was a big fan of Beatles .
He admired them and that shows character because personally they did not get on well at all... Waters seriouse, The Beatles most often jokers and sarcastic,,(John) .. The Beatles unlocked the doors that each make thier own music and develop, Waters said heard that from them in Sgt PepperAlbum, He knew better then the way forward for his music, ...
Eddie Van Halen played on a track for Roger and conveniently after Eddie dies, Roger trashes him. David Gilmour ON THE OTHER HAND played with Eddie at a Les Paul Tribute in 1988 and each complimented on each others styles.
Roger even hated Neil Peart and called him a lousy drummer and a crappy lyricist. Neil got better in lyrics from 1977 onwards, Roger on the other hand got stifled after The Wall.
What Roger really means is..............modern music is crap. End of!
Roger's always been too full of himself. It's his achilles heel and why he was playing to 6000 while the band was filling stadiums.
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Roger Waters in a nut shell: It's one thing to pose as something important and another thing to believe your own hype.
FREE PALESTINE!!!!! BDS!
Roger always did love the smell of his own farts. The guy is a poet who hasn’t produced any listenable music since 1983.
This seems to be an anti Waters video but anyone at the world front of music for 60 years is going to be opinionated for fucks sake. He calls it like he sees it and that makes some snowflakes uncomfortable. Gilmour was all for the Ukraine war but says nothing to support Assange makes him a shitlib. Long live Roger Waters!!
The more I listen to Waters talk, the less I like Pink Floyd. His take on the Middle East conflict mirrors a radical ill-informed college brat.
Really,…
The fact that he is spending time and money desperately trying to save an indigenous people from being slowly ethnically cleansed is ill informed and a brat. You haven’t a clue dude. The man has a heart of gold and balls of steel.
@@Jominycrocket0 I see 400 million Muslims hating 9 million Indigenous Jews. How noble of Waters to cheer for the powerful and ignore the underdogs. You sound pretty damn young yourself.
I don't know if the narrator is taking quotes out of context but a lot of this seems awfully petty, egotistical and trivial. Why would Waters waste time energy on other people's rubbish? Bored I guess, buying too much into the media hype rockstar celebrity status? I say that with nothing but love and respect but seriously get over yourself. However I do remember back when I was in high school there was this ridiculous hate for anything that was like a holdover from the hippy dippy 60s era by the punks and the new generation who were living in the aftermath of so much disillusionment with some of the more naive utopian idealism that failed. And Pink Floyd was often treated, wrongly I think, as representing everything rotten from the cynical and total sell out by the baby boomer generation. So I get why Roger feel somewhat pissed about that time and how the group was being used as a punching bag by some of the anarchist punks. Still why act like an old fart? Young and immature people are always going to be less than fully reasonable charitable and broad minded when it comes to evaluating the older generations contribution to the general insanity and stupidity of the realities of the present moment. Really people do change and the things everyone was willing to fight to the death over seem in retrospect to be completely foolish and silly, so why hold the grudge? Everyone has their own favorite passions, opinions and aesthetic taste, does that mean your taste and aesthetics is special and better than others? I mean yes U2 can get pretentious and annoying real quick but how can anyone say that they are not a great rock and roll band? That really smacks of art snobbery which is lame to put it mildly, you are so much better than that, and the people who love Pink Floyd's music deserve so much better than that too.
I agree with Waters. Van Halen, I do not understand the obsession with the guy. And most of his music was synthesisers. His guitar is like listening to a computer Ai play. And yes Floyd was a spent creative force after 85. Those albums were terrible. So were Roger’s mind you. AC/DC quite a few songs are brilliantly good. But the rest terrible. Sex Pistols were just idiots. One album proves the point. But PIL did a few very good tracks. U2, I mean if Bono isn’t a parody of himself I don’t know what is.
Floyd was never a creative force, their songs belong in an elevator. EVH was even more expiremental, and his expirements more impactful than anything Floyd did. But to summarize Waters argument if its a band thats actually good, or if its Floyd which he feels a personal inflated over importance to, to an overrated band, he hates it.
@@tw19771 nah. Though you make a few good points, I think my argument is better than yours. But music is subjective in the end. You obviously like Van Halen guitar solos, I don’t. But you’re probably right. Everyone seems to worship the guy.
@@Mambojambo157 I'm not really talking about the music. You can't realistically compare PF to VH, both are sonically in completely different spaces. I'm talking about as musicians and experimentation. EVH was a cut above Floyd, and really anybody else. In that avenue. If it wasn't for EVH for instance. More than likely, rthe technology for guitars and amplification would have never got passed the late-60's. Even in the Mid-70's amps and guitars were the same as in the late 60's. And he directly pushed guitar playing forward. So yeah, his expirements were more impactful.
Musically Floyd and Halen are Apples and Oranges. And I don't care for Floyd (And believe me I've tried to get into this band) PF is boring to me, but I can see why DSOTM And The Wall would appeal to a wide audience and radio airplay. Even though I don't care for those records.
And we wouldn't be talking about it, if Roger wasn't busy criticizing everybody, including EVH, and its an argument the old man needs to leave alone.
Roger dosnt "hate" bands. He just dosnt like their music.
Why the total over the top exageration.
Without Roger PK is not really PK, just a band for elevator time music
PK?
you know nothing,
everybody knows syd was pink floyd....he wrote all the songs and named the band
narcissistic demagog
Who cares what roger waters thinks...he should play his music and stop preaching.
Not a fan of free speech?
@@Marius_vanderLubbe not when people are paying a lot of money to hear music. A rock concert is 2 hours + of an escape for people. People dont need to hear preaching at a show.
@@mooch514preaching is a certain part of it. Todd Rundgren was criticised for advising Trump fans not to come to his gigs. The basis was that during a gig he may make the odd comment that would upset them but it was 99% music
Lot's of his music IS PREACHING
Would be interesting to listen something trascendental or at least enjoyable from him other than a late 70s rebellious opera prima. So easy to be considered an activist today, just raise your fist and choose a trendy topic.
Gilmor's floyd is annoying.😢
Pink Floyd is the definition of narcissistic music.
I used to like these kind of "art rock " bands like Pink Floyd but as I get older I prefer my rock music to be more visceral and to the point. Motorhead are a favorite. Pink Floyd just seem pretentious. The music is mostly boring and simple soft rock at heart. If I want more sophisticated music there's about 600 years of classical music to explore.
Motorhead? Now that is some simplistic, boring, plain beef and potato shithead music. 🤣
Motorhead is too noisy and loud for me now. I take it you love Britney Spears and go to LGBTQ clubs dancing to her 1990s/2000s dance crap and also you love Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Taylor Swift.
Bono does not care what you think about U2 as they are more popular than you.
Sonny Bono?
Pink Floyd is boring..
Certainly became so when Roger left.
You must be a Britney Spears and Justin Bieber stan. Even Styx is better than your roodypoo favorites.
this is not Rogers voice and hi speaks english.. don't need traslation
This is silly, taken out of context, comments done years back as if they were recent, just idiotic most of the comments on Pink Floyd, even if he said them once. He is a Narcissistic guy, and quite arrogant, and full of biases. Always whining and complaining.
i hate pink floyd
You LOVE Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber and love the Sausage, watching Rachel Maddow and The View FOOL!
@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 roger waters is a asshole
@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 it is better to listen to the theme song of Postman Pat then to listen to shit coming from roger waters lol
@@theovanstaden5766 Get lost you Britney Spears loving LGBTQ Pickle Whistler