The conspiracy bit never bugged me. I just assumed she was just sort of saying whatever was coming to mind in the moment, based on the context of her situations. She loves a conspiracy when she's listening to people discussing conspiracies, but she doesn't when she's in the middle of one and lives are on the line.
Yeah. I just assumed she "loves" conspiracies in the sense of the domestic madness sense. Not so much on a life or death scale. I doubt Chibby and Pete McTighe had to have a sit down about her opinions on conspiracies.
Two years late, but I agree, and in both Arachnids and Kerblam made it clear from the context what she meant. In the first case, the Doctor was reacting to Yaz's dad going on about his fanciful conspiracy *_theories,_* but in the second instance she was talking about a potentially *_real_* conspiracy - not a theory - that's causing people to be killed.
Not gonna name five moments, but just my one favorite moment of the series: The solitract frog. I loved everything about it (except maybe the wanky talking animation, should've just been telepathic). Not going into detail but i think it was the best choice to manifest the solitract like this. And this moment made me understand this doctor: curious and explorative, thrilled to meet crazy new things and see the universe. That's the first time i truly felt the "childlike wonder" jodie said her doctor had, and i love it. Combined with the darker confrontational side you mentionned in this video this doctor could become quite an interesting one. Looking forward to series 12 hopefully expanding on both aspects.
I have watched every episode of series 11 twice and besides one episode, I do really enjoy series 11. However I would like more growth for Doctor 13. Also even though Graham is great, I feel like he is taking some of the Doctors moments from the other two companions. I think people would of liked Jodie’s Doctor better if those Yaz and Graham conversation same with a few Ryan and Graham conversation. Imaging if those were the Doctors and Yaz conversation or Ryan and The Doctor. The Doctor would of shown that Grandparental figure and ancient wisdom that previous incarnations had moments of. I also think 3 companions is one too many. It can work in some episodes but I feel like the Doctor with 2 companions is the best. Just my thoughts but like I said I enjoyed Series 11.
Demons of the Punjab is my favorite Doctor Who story of all time. Words cannot do this masterpiece justice but I’ll try. Demons of the Punjab is really amazing and incredibly beautiful. The title is amazing and has so much meaning to it. The soundtrack and direction are fantastic. The Thijarians are the best execution of a monster not being threatening that I’d ever seen. The Thijarians inclusion in the story works because there a metaphor for the partition of India casualties being barley talked about. Graham is great as usual and is defiantly one of the best companions in the show’s history. The Wedding scene is fantastic. Prem’s death and his hologram becoming a part of the rest of the holograms of people that died in the partition of India is just heartbreaking. Everything about Demons of the Punjab is Glorious. 10/10
Mate, I really appreciate your work to call out the systematic hated that has been thrown against series 11. It's been crazy this year. Hating this series on youtube is its own click bate industry. Thanks for fighting back with facts when haters are doing their best to smother one of the worlds best Sci Fi shows. No question its finding its feet again and has had a bit of a dip...but lets get it straight....on the whole it's still pretty incredible.
@@joeespin4377 Not the series! The show! The series could have been better. But the fundamentals are sound and if we get some better writing in the prognosis is good.
@@TooManyBrackets Yes the show is in good shape, but if that "good shape" doesn't include better writing, acting, show running, and show owning, the show will fail. Let's face it the BBC doesn't see this, and all its other series as entertainment vehicles anymore. They see it as a way to promote a culture that is agenda pushing, PC. When the agenda being pushed is an obvious detriment to the quality of story that it is you would think that that agenda would be dropped in the blink of an eye. But that's not the case with the BBC, they seem to be doubling down thus totally ruining a proud entertainment franchise.
@@joeespin4377 So we start out together Joe and the quickly separate. Where you see "Pushing an Agenda" I see them trying new things. Some of them work, some of them don't. Some is a bit clumsy and I'm looking forward to it's scifi roots, great storylines and snappy dialogue reasserting themselves. I'll be glad when they develop the things that work again but that doesn't mean it has to be exactly the same as it was before...it was always changing. I think a lot of fans didn't appreciate the level of talent that RTD and Moffat brought to the show until now. However if the show has an agenda then so does a lot of the criticism! If it's a choice between a "PC" agenda and an "alt-right" agenda then give me PC anytime.
@@TooManyBrackets RTD was the best show runner of nu who, Moffatt was a terrible show runner. He created the plot contrivance known as Clara and then kept her around much too long, then he gave us Missy not a good incarnation of the Master and River Song who really was not a well thought out character. He employed the mystery box type of writing but he never had a satisfying payoff to the mystery You mentioned good storytelling series 11 had amost none.
My personal top 5 best moments: 1) Prem's sacrifice ("Demons of the Punjab") 2) The Doctor's 'secret of existence' speech to King James I ("The Witchfinders)" 3) The Doctor saying goodbye to the Solitract ("It Takes You Away") 4) Ryan finally calling Graham 'granddad' ("It Takes You Away") 5) The Doctor confronting the makeshift Recon Dalek ("Resolution")
Thanks for addressing the whole controversy thing. I think that was handled very gracefully and you do make a good point about Jodie's Doctor being a Doctor for 2018 but personally I do think there's still a lot of love for a little moral ambiguity and it does ultimately suit the Doctor to a T to be a little less absolute. I mean, hey, people still like Iron Man.
@@theuniverseshow9699 I did I've been flicking through comments because I was interested to see if there was any contriversal comments and I see his comments I don't need to say awesome he is because I've already said it
I also came away from Demons of the Punjab crying as well. And it's the one episode of Series 11 that I've wanted to see again and have rewatched several times, and each time it still gets me. It's a beautifully cathartic piece of television, definitely more about the emotions involved than the logic--which I think is what bothers those who don't like it as much--their logical brains want to dissect and disassemble everything, while they're not letting their hearts feel the story. I'm not saying turn off your brain, but sometimes you need to feel something for what it is before you jump into dissecting it. I just wish it wasn't the only episode where Yaz was featured to any degree.
I actually really liked series 11. I feel it's quite underrated, so thank you for making this video, I hope it helps others to finally see all the good moments this series has.
Also, not to trivialize, but did anyone else notice that the younger actress that portrayed Yaz's grandmother in the past...she was bloody GORGEOUS? Wow!
Some of the points raised in this video make me wonder even more why people didn't like any single thing about series 11. Like, you're allowed an opinion but some people go really extreme if they don't like something.
@NXTIME that's... oddly specific... did nine even get any staggering monologues? I personally find most of them very cringy but it's all based on personal opinion. There's not one set thing that defines the doctor. You're basically saying nothing is good in doctor who unless there's a speech? That basically discards most of the episodes then. Plus, you could argue that 13 had a lot of monologues, quite notably in demons of the punjab during her speech about love.
5. The Doctor's Witch Trial 4. The Doctor Remembers Who She Is 3. The Opening of the Ghost Monument 2. The Doctor and the Solitract Frog 1. Ryan calls Graham "Grandad"
Awesome picks Trilbee. My Top 5 Best Season 11 Moments would be 1 The final moments of Demons Of The Punjab (Best) 2 The Dalek vs The Army Resolution 3 Rosa’s stand Rosa 4 The opening of The Ghost Monument 5 The Doctor meets Yasmin, Ryan, Graham and Grace for the first time The Woman Who Fell To Earth
I don't know why people say that the Demons of the Punjab would have been fine as a pure historical, because if you imagine that ending of the story without the Demons, it ends with the Doctor, Yaz, Ryan and Graham just walking away from someone being shot.
Great work on this video! Demons of the Punjab was definitely my favorite Series 11 episode but I did like Resolution the most just because it was a fun and exciting story with a returning villain. That’s basically why it’s my favorite 13 story thus far. I respect your opinion though. Take care!
I noticed a lot of people picking up on The Doctor saying she loves conspiracies in Arachnid and then saying she hates them in Kerblam! and that's all fair enough, but I feel like it's not as bad as The Doctor saying "Line in the sand, no puns" in The Woman Who Lived and then making puns and referring to himself as "Dr. Puntastic" in The Zygon Inversion - the very next story.
That complaint bugs me too because the Doctor is never really consistent with what they're saying. Often they'll just throw away a line just to contradict themselves right after. Heck, the entirety of 11's introduction is him saying "Oh I love this !" and then throwing said thing into the kitchen sink. So for me the contradiction feels very Doctoresque.
Thank you for such a constructive video! S11 certainly hasn't been the best there ever was, but it was solid and it had great moments. The hate that it's receiving truly baffles me, especially as - like you say - half the time the "arguments" are entirely made up. So thank you for being voice of reason. I shall proceed to check your other videos as well. edit: I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said about "Demons". It is one master-piece of an episode with so much meta-text that it just stands out in a beautiful and memorable way.
inB4 someone says "Nothing"- Nothing. Of course I'm joking. My favourite moments of the series were- 5. The Doctor's speech about the engine in The Tsuranga Conundrum. I thought the episode was weak but that moment really stood out. 4. Rosa Parks staying on the bus and that whole ending sequence. If it wasn't for the pop song it could have been higher. 3. The Doctor and King James's conversation in The Witchfinders. 2. Prem is killed and the TARDIS crew have no choice but to walk away. 1. Can I say all of It Takes You Away? To narrow down moments though- the Doctor's speech about losing more than the Solitract could know, the frog scene (it's genius) and the final moment where Ryan calls Graham "Grandad".
Thank you for talking about the positive moments of the "Tsuranga Conundrum." The things you mentioned (the P'ting, and the moment when it's blown out into space) keep reminding me of Galaxy Quest. (SPOILERS FOR Galaxy Quest) The P'ting itself is reminiscent of the cute, tiny Miners, who turn out to be cannibals. The final shot of the P'ting is like the final shot of the G'rock's final moment, floating serenely in space after punching through the airlock of the Protector. I've heard that, in the original script, G'rock's true motivation was to get away from the noisy Miners, so, like the P'ting, G'rock had a happy ending.
Tsranga conundrum is fantastic, such a thrilling episode, demons of Punjab is my favourite episode of the series though, so emotionally engaging, brilliant writing
Blimey you’re a risk taker, choosing positive moments from Tsuranga AND Ghost Monument. Life on the edge! 😁😁 I jest of course. 😂😂 That single take shot at the start of Ghost Monument was indeed a marvel. LOL! The ‘conspiracy’ scenario, so glad you picked up on that as it really niggled me at the time. It’s a bit worrying that we the viewers picked it up first time but no-one in script or edit did (nice re-edit by the way). I agreed in one of your previous videos, that The Doctor acts differently when there are no companions about, especially noticeable in the King James confrontation and yes, this is definitely the version of The Doctor I prefer and I too hope that it’s a ‘front’ for her companions and this is the real deal. I hope we see more in series 12. Sorry to hear that the comments in your other video were hijacked by nastiness especially as you were looking at it with a positive outlook (a heinous crime! 😲). I find it really refreshing that you look at both sides, good and bad. That’s why I like your videos, thoughtful and balanced. Please never stop. 🙏👍
At the risk of nitpicking - the love/hate of conspiracy is within context. The reaction to a conspiracy of mysterious garbage is not the same as a conspiracy that's whisking away sentients. It's like saying if you enjoyed the conspiracy theory that Elvis was taken into Witsec, you'd have to like the conspiracy that resulted in Love Canal.
I agree. The Doctor was reacting to Yaz's father's wacky *conspiracy theory* in "Arachnids", but she was referring to a potentially real - and life-threatening - *conspiracy* in "Kerblam". (Sorry for responding to a two-year old post, but better late than never!)
You picked a few that I would pick as well. In no particular order: * Opening of 'The Ghost Monument' * Ending of 'Rosa' * Graham hugs Prem in 'Demons of the Punjab' * The Doctor talks to the Solitract in 'It Takes You Away' * Grab bag of little Doctory details, such as: embracing the TARDIS at the end of 'Ghost Mohument', bum bag (aka fanny pack) in 'Arachnids', wet hair curl in 'Witches', custard cream joy, etc.
Top five moments you say? OK I probably have a lot more than five but let's give this a go. 5: The Doctor's confrontation with Krasco in Rosa, I loved how she acted in that scene despite getting throttled, and when she throws his equipment through that laser beam, genius, I loved that. 4: When Jodie first crashed onto the scene in The Woman Who Fell To Earth that alone looked awesome, but then we have some slight notes of the Doctor Who theme to tell us that we're in safe hands, still watching the show we love, and when she electrified the tentacle thing it felt good to watch. 3: Demons Of The Punjab, yes a very, very good story, but also an emotionally heavy and hard one to witness. Nothing more I can say about that episode that hasn't been said already so I'm just going to name drop the ending of that episode finish my list and go off and cry about it 2: Rosa again was a really hard episode to watch made evident right off the bat by having Ryan getting whacked right across the face just for trying to do something nice for a white girl. The ending with Rosa refusing to stand and Graham not wanting to watch is beautifully done, I could've done without the music that played but it didn't effect me too much. The fact that I was feeling tense and wondering if the TARDIS crew would succeed or not was made all the more bitter sweet when they do succeed and get Rosa sent to prison, that's rough. 1: Admittedly I am a fan boy so this shouldn't be a surprise, but I had to put it above the scenes in Rosa and Demons Of The Punjab because while brilliant scenes they were never going to make me feel the same way I felt watching a lone Dalek made from scrap completely take out not just an army, but a take twice the size of it. Pure fan service done right and I could never wipe the dumb grin off of my face, nor did I want to. I loved the scene before with the Doctor confronting the Dalek, but it could not compare to a Dalek actually being more Dalek than any Dalek we've seen since at least 2010 right? I'm not saying make the Daleks crap only to have them be really awesome again later on, but knowing what I did about how the Daleks were treated before this, it definitely made me overblown with joy, and most people hated Resolution, heard apparently Terry Nation would be turning in his grave, like wtf?
I couldn't agree with you more for your first pick. Resolution gave us the best dalek story since 2005 and it reminded me WHY the Dalek's are feared and dangerous. You don't get that feeling with Into the Dalek or Victory of the Daleks
@@WHO_is_on_first How many of Journey Blue's troops were killed while they were "Into the Dalek"? Dangerous to them, at least until the Doctor brainwashes Rusty into becoming the ultimate Dalek killer.
Resolution is definitely the best dalek episode since “stolen earth/ journeys end” in my opinion and the best episode written by Chibnall (aside from his co-written credit with Rosa) Regardless of whether Moffat’s dalek episodes were good or not, i never felt like the daleks had a threatening presence during his run as show-runner, and often than not it felt like they had to rely on other characters to tell you why and how they were scary 😜
I think what you said about tennent is spot on. It did take him a while to find his feet. Do you think they got the name pting from the noise your phone make when you get a message through on messenger? Everytime I here I think of the pting.
I also enjoyed The Tsuranga Conundrum, it's not a perfect episode by any means, but I'm glad they didn't just go with generic scary alien for that episode, the Pting was interesting. It's definitely true that Graham got the best of all the companions, I really hope we get a lot more for the other two next series, but that doesn't mean the other two got nothing. I loved the scene in Rosa where Ryan and Yaz were discussing the fact that times have improved but we aren't there yet, it gives some insight into their views on the world and helps show that the show acknowledges that we're not still stuck in those times, but instead shows that our time is so much better, though we could still improve. I really appreciated how Graham reacted in that particular scene in Rosa, you could feel how much he hated being there, it was such an excellent scene and is possibly one of my favourite examples of acting in Doctor Who to date. The Ghost Monument wasn't perfect, but those opening scenes were VERY good, it's a shame that they didn't quite deliver on some of the things they mentioned in the episode, such as the flesh eating microbes in the water. It's not as bad as people make it out to be, but it could have been improved a bit. Arachnids in the UK is probably the weakest episode in the series, and it's a shame because it would have been completely possible to avoid many of the issues in it, hell, I enjoyed a good chunk of the episode, the atmospheric feel at the start did a decent job at giving an eerie feel, the problems started around the time they tried to shove in some parallels to Donald Trump, I'm not a fan of America's presidential Oompa Loompa, but it was far too on the nose to handle it like that, and the Doctor leaving the spider to suffocate was inadvertently a much worse way of letting the spider die than just shooting it, the Trump clone shot it for the wrong reason, but it was nowhere near as cruel as leaving it to die slowly and painfully. Scenes between the Doctor and King James are bloody excellent, I adored that episode for how playful it was at times, but how quickly it could turn itself around to darker themes.
It is refreshing to see a positive take on Series 11. The SIW (Social Injustice Warriors) who predicted disaster when a woman was picked for the role of the Doctor cannot accept that it is not a disaster. Social and political messages have been a part of the show from the original series. Although I agree it is not the best series, it is far from the worst. Series 2 was far worse, and David Tennant eventually became a great Doctor. The show lacks good writing in Series 11, except for some of the non-Chibnall written stories.
My favoright part of the series is Jodie Foster as the doctor. Like you said I would like to see that seriouse side of her a little more. I think she can be really scary if she wanted too. But it took me a little bit to realize she dosn't want to be. She wants to be a friend and a peer figure, which sets her apart from her predesessors who have always needed to be in charge. I like the sublety of her leadership. She commands respect without constantly talking down to her friends.
I feel like they need to figure out what this Doctor is leaning more towards. The way the series wrote her interactions is like a very classic Doctor where she’s not the focus and the normal people have all of the interesting/meaningful conversations. Yet the way her character is written is more like a modern Doctor where she feels more relatable (kind of). So instead of getting a more human Doctor we can emotionally invest in or a Doctor whose weirdness is so palpable they can just be themselves while the companions interact, she’s just kind of a person who’s also there. She’s not unique enough for her quirks to distinguish her and she’s not complex enough to be emotionally engaging. Nothing stands out about her because the show’s been redesigned that way-it feels, on accident. And, based on all of her performances throughout the series, human-like Doctor is her greatest strength. I think they should lean into it.
It's really more like ' the least bad moments of series 11'. There was only one really, that some of the story concepts were good (although they were developed really badly, so they turned out as really poor storylines).
Jodie excited about anti matter in Tsuranga.....Jodie speech to Alan Cumming in The Witchfinders....Jodie excited over the Kerblam man....finding the Tardis in The Ghost Monument....number one is Jodie and the frog
Everyone talks about how great a year 2019 will be: Last season of GoT IT part 2 Endgame Star Wars Episode IX Stranger Things season 3 The Last of Us part 2 (maybe) Toy Story 4 But how can they say that if there is no Doctor Who?
My favourite moment from Doctor Who series 11 is when the Doctor backstabbed Graham flushing him into space, then read Rosa Carl Marx's biography and then lectured every racist white male capitalist villains while declaring the only true path to the future was to kill all cis-white-straight-male-scum... Moment of the year
As for the "conspiracy mention" mishap in Series 11, I pretty much played it off as The Doctor still trying to find herself as this is her first series and she may still be finding herself a bit.
I just wanted to add that I follow your channel precisely because you address those issues that permeate the DW discourse and you do it so damn well. You are a fair, logical and reasoned beacon in a sea of angry DW UA-camrs with an entitled chip on their shoulder. Please don’t shy away from the topic because what you say is important and needs to be said.
I agree that a lot of people want these flawless down to earth heros, like Captain America and Wonder Woman, but even those characters have inner turmoil. CA chose to help his friend and alienated his team in the process, he also lost half of his team to thanos and is now dealing with the thought that he failed to protect them, WW lost the love of her life and her entire family was destroyed. You can feel the loneliness within her, and I really think they should implement a darker side to the 13th Doctor to give her more depth. At least give her a speech that conveys the loneliness of losing Missy, her best friend that she literally just lost at the end of last season or the fact that she outlives every companion she has ever had. Give her a scene where she breaks down because her best friend literally killed herself, or how she feels cursed that she can never age with her companions
What I have liked with the 13th Doctor is that she makes mistakes and bad calls. More so than it feels like the Doctor has for a long time. Rather like in the classic era the Doctor is again capable of making tactical missteps and I appreciate Chibnall returning that fallibility to the role. Too often Nu-Who makes the Doctor out to be a lonely God figure with whom nobody can ever fully empathise, and although that is part of the mythos, I like the Doctor to be seen to be figuring stuff out just like everyone else. I do like the interpretation of Jodie's Doctor that a lot of her BFF joviality and awkward oversharing is to cover up a more dark and cynical nature that she's trying to suppress in herself. It would be great to put her into situations in future where sometimes that darkness can break out. Incidentally she doesn't know about the Master's fate. She only knows Missy went off with her younger self before the battle.
CountScarlioni oh yeah, that’s right nobody knows Missy is dead except the master who is now Missy who will soon die. Trippy lol. But yeah that is true, she is a lot like the Davison’s Doctor in the sense that she is very close with her friends/companions and does make quite a bit of mistakes. One thing I would like them to do though, is make a more solid set of moral values for Jodies doctor. One episode she would be completely against killing but then would lock a bunch of spiders in a panic room and let them starve to death. Part of having a moral code and seeing how each doctor created their morals were what made them each so individual from the other.
Hooray! A positive attitude to series Eleven! Surely this is the best type of video? There is no need for critics to be polarised in their reviews. Evaluation involves weighing up good and bad qualities. So, I will look out for your other, negative video!
I liked series 11 and I think the Thirteenth Doctor is adorable (so is the P'Ting). Yaz was definitely underutilized but I still love her (the development is lacking, but the acting/execution are compelling). Everyone else is, of course, entitled to their own opinions, but people could stand to tone down the hate a little.
Okay! I'm at the 10 minute mark and I had to pause there. Rosa. Oh boy. You raise a brilliant point with how those that stood against the Jim Crowe laws were victimised and brutally attacked. This has been my problem with that episode from the beginning, that this aspect was one of several not given enough attention. You raised an example, James Reeb, and in doing so made my point. This is something that was never truly addressed in the show. Neither was Claudette Colvin, a young black girl that was arrested exactly like Rosa Parks was only a few months earlier! The issues at the time were many and very complicated, stretching back to the American Civil War. All far too involved to ever explore in necessary detail, especially in a 50 minute TV episode. Instead what we got was a rushed confused mess that required people to go and research the subject. In effect a two paragraph wiki article with *Citation Needed every other sentence! I don't want to be bashed of the head with something that should be subtext, but at the same time you have to make the message clear. Rosa needed to be either later in the series, with all the characters firmly established giving more time to the plot, or a two parter. Giving it enough time to really explore the complex issues. Raising points like the one you made here and explaining how the whole culture was the problem. Ideally both. Failing that it might have been an idea for someone to remember that good Science Fiction uses metaphor and analogy to get it's point across. Transposing the events into a future / alternate setting would have made the message a lot cleaner, raised as much awareness and wouldn't have been as historically inaccurate!
Most drama has to truncate and simplify reality. I don't think anything that you or Mr Tardis mentioned would have improved the story. I think that there was an unreasonable burden of representation placed on the episode by fan critics. It is a bit like criticising The Romans of excluding the long history of mad Roman Emperors, or Ten thousand Years BC for not including a more diverse range of hominids.
My problem with the Rosa Parks episode was that it reinforced the myth that Rosa Parks herself denounced many times. She did not become involved in the bus issue because she was tired. There were two conflicting laws, one saying that you could not ask someone to change seats and the Jim Crow law that said black people had to sit in certain places. Before that moment, she was trying to talk another woman who did something almost identical into taking the issue to court but this other woman was too scared. Rosa Parks sat in that bus and made a tactical decision to protest by maintaining her seat because she wanted to fight the conflicting law in court. But then I took a step back and remembered that most historical episodes are done in English history and I don't have the same familiarity to know if they're being accurate- and likely, they're not. So I took a chill pill lol.
@What Doctor will she be in the future (the Post 20 Min. talk.): This imo, also sounds a balance that some former Doctors had to deal with, pendeling between being "Human" and "Alien/Thousands of Years Old Lonely God".
Go spend a couple hours on the internet. You’ll find far more racist, transphobic, misogynistic comments than you ever will in the comment section of a positive review for a bad episode of television.
The best moment of Doctor Who Season 11 was Graham's giving his sandwich to the girl. The second best moment was the response of Graham, when the Doctor said, he should not kill Tim Shaw. ("I will kill him anyway") Third: Graham in Keblam. Fourth: Graham doing things Fifth: Graham doing other things
MrTardis, Sir: As a lifelong Whovian (I mean, I was a Doctor Who fan when Doctor Who wasn’t cool!), I sincerely appreciate your subjective opinion concerning this topic. I had no other way of communicating with you, and I need your unique view and subjective opinion, btw, on two things that have come up recently, which intersect your particular explanation of issues here on your UA-cam channel; so I’m reaching out to you here in the comments section of your most recent video. 1. Please explain the huge discrepancy between critics scores of The Orville season one (32%) and the critics score of The Orville season two (100%) and why or how this could be?! 2. With the release of David Tennant’s podcast interview with Jodie Whittaker, how do you break it down as it pertains to Doctor Who? Does Jodie shine a lot of light, whether knowingly or not, upon why her casting turned out to be disastrous for Doctor Who? With her admission of not being a fan and her own personal decision to not place much weight upon the characters extensive history when she did what actors and actresses do in researching a role, I think explains so much of why many Whovians did not feel like they were getting “The Doctor” from her performance! I really want to hear your two cents into these things if you wouldn’t mind. Thank you MrTardis!
Being a fan of the show is hardly a requirement for being the Doctor. As I recall the first actor playing the Doctor to acknowledge being a fan of the show beforehand was Colin Baker. Then you've got Christopher Eccleston who not only wasn't a fan, he admitted in interviews to having actively disliked the series for being posh and elitist. Matt Smith likewise knew nothing about the show until getting cast in the part. Really, only Tennant and Capaldi are fans-turned-Doctors.
To me, after all the Bullshit that Moffat gave us over the past 6-8 years. I would take series 11 anytime. Series 11 was a breath of fresh air, I love The 13th Doctor, I love her Sonic Screwdriver and I fucking love her T.A.R.D.I.S. And if some people don’t like it because she’s a woman or if they think The “Feminazis/SJW” have taking over it. Grow a fucking pair and get over it. There are no SJWs or feminists taking over the BBC. The ratings of Rotten Tomato mean bugger all. And also, there is nothing you can do to change the show. The Doctor is a Female. There! You don’t like it? Tough! The action has been made!
You are so biased? How can you only be positive about such a terrible series? I know how, it's because you're a BBC shill, if you were a true fan you'd know to hate hahaha no just joking, but can you imagine?
I liked that they dropped the Doctor’s reputation. I never really liked that the Doctor can just scare people away by telling people who they were. There was an entire army dedicated to taking down the Eleventh Doctor because he was such a big deal. I never liked that. It didn’t bug me so much in Silence of the library or the Eleventh Hour because the villains actually had to bother Googling it, but I never liked that the Doctor has this huge reputation throughout the universe.
imo series 11 is one of jodie's best seasons, followed by series 12. I do agree her stories and character could've been greatly improved on, but what we have now isn't the worst we've ever had before. I'd also put 13 up near 11, with 9, 10 and 12 right above
My big issue with series 11 was it was dull. The sci-fi elements were weak, the writing was serviceable at best, and the villians were totally forgettable. Dr. Who has always been wildly inconsistent in terms of delivering perfect episodes, but it's rarely been this boring week after week.
Jodie Whittaker as 13th Doctor (my favorite incarnation) has great entrance in 10th season finale and how she appears as The Woman Who Fell On Earth. Thre first two episodes are great, the third is very good. The fourth eposode is deffinately the worst one, seventh episode is Tennant - like doctor story. First two episodes almost without tardis are very good and they are surprising us many times. The new doctor's character, her behavior, aproaches to the problems she has to solve are very interesting. The best episode is "Demons of the Punhab". The best moment for sure is when Tijarians tells The Doctor what happened to them, who they became and what's going to happen. It's a first of two moments in this episode, when I cried. In final episode Dalec was brought back with dignity after all this sh*t since long time. Now I'm waiting for more.
Also I'd just like to point out that by saying that Demons of the Punjab is the best story since The Girl Who Waited you're also saying it's better than the likes of The Day of the Doctor...
I know people who didn’t like it at all... and that’s okay 👌 doesn’t stop me from having the opinion it’s one of the best episodes ever (I don’t remember being into “the girl who waited” when it came out, looking back now it’s actually pretty amazing.... those robots and their “menacing” silly walk though 😜 )
Witchfinders is my favourite nWho episode so far mostly because of the way it treats King James. We're really removed from him by history but he was a tyrant who killed as big a portion of his population as the worst of the 20th Century dictators did of theirs. But the Doctor doesn't confront him like a monster, she treats him as a flawed human being and by the end of the episode she's made a kind of uneasy truce with him. This is the Doctor who "spent many happy days with Tse Teung," who taught Richard I the virtues of peacemaking, who corrected his companions' misconceptions of King John (if a little clumsily), who casually talked the Earth Controller out of collaboration with the Daleks and most of all who stuffed the Cambridge Spies, Harry Truman and Joseph Stalin into his TARDIS to stop the cold war going hot (did I mention how much I love Terrance Dicks novels?)
You're not sorry at all, are you? That is tough because we'll be back in 2020-and the maniacs Will still be raving! Pity no one knows where any of them live.,.......
@@dawn1110uk I am sorry.. I couldn't be more proud to have a icon like the doctor be from my home town. But unfortunately she butchered the role.. I blame the writers because I want to blame anyone else. Remember when the doctor was a being as old as time, intergalactic royalty, a warrior who turned the tides of battles the shaped the universe.? I doubt that doctor will return. Love Jodie hate her Interpretation.
Ive been in Doctor Who fandom since 1976. I've been to countless conventions, been a member of many groups and forums, and I've never in all my life encountered anyone quite as sad and pathetic as William Carlisle. An embarrassment to Doctor Who fans everywhere and a prime example of how warped and unhinged the nuwho fanbase has become.
Plus, I'm sure if Chibnall and Malorie Blackman wanted to write an episode about the non-racist white people, they would have, but the episode is about Rosa Parkes.
how can anyone like series 11, to say Jodie's acting was as good as Sophia Coppola's in Godfateher 3, the scripts were awful, tardis was too full, the tardis interior and the pting, the spiders were all terrible, Yaz was as worthless as Clara and Adric were. and the wordt of all having the doctor not be focus of the story in her own show.
@PikaCinema my remarks were not meant to convey the feeling that everyone who happens to like the series is some hoe mentally deficient. although i DID put forth the question. I do apologize if my remarks made you or anyone who happened to derive some enjoyment out of something that gave me so little enjoyment .
So to be relevant in 2018, you must be a strong woman character. Strong male characters shouldn't be just as timeless and relevant in _every year_ just as women should be? What a warped world view. All that does is immediately shut down conversation by joining the bandwagon for what will essentially be a passing fad. And it actually hurts progression, by inappropriately inserting social causes rather than letting it _organically evolve_ in a way that is accepted by everyone. People don't get defensive that way, but a heavy-handed approach of doing things like turning Thor into a woman, even though there are plenty of women Norse heroines they could have chosen, will only create an opposition that wasn't there before. Literally hurting their own cause with their own efforts. As I said, it is just the cause dujour and in a few years nobody will have even remembered this silly attempt by the media to indoctrinate the public with their own social agendas.
1) I never said that. You went on a 5 paragraph response based on something I didn't even say and something I don't believe. 2) I've cited Captain America, a male character, as a good relevant example in 2028. So...maybe actually listen to people before getting angry at imaginary issues.
dr103 m - I get what you’re saying. And I agree that opinions about if something is “good” or “bad” can’t be wrong. They are subjective. But I do think it’s important to say not all opinions have that protection. For example if someone says “it’s my opinion that gravity doesn’t exists” that IS a wrong opinion. It is a provable false hood. I know that’s not the situation in this discussion but I’ve seen so many people in life state that ANY opinion is equally valid regardless on if it’s a subjective subject or an objective one that it needed pointing out.
Besides Kablam, I thoroughly enjoyed most of Series 11. It's a nice break from all of the convoluted or downright depressing overarching plots of the Moffat Era. It knew when to be funny, when to be serious, when to be lighthearted, when to be dark. I think it's probably the most *consistently* good series since Series 1. Not the best, but the most consistent. My favorite moment would have to be Graham's eulogy at Grace's funeral. It's the first time I cried at Doctor Who since Amy & Rory's deaths in "The Angels Take Manhattan" and it's really a testament to Chibnall's stellar character writing and Bradley Walsh's skill as an actor.
The conspiracy bit never bugged me. I just assumed she was just sort of saying whatever was coming to mind in the moment, based on the context of her situations. She loves a conspiracy when she's listening to people discussing conspiracies, but she doesn't when she's in the middle of one and lives are on the line.
Yeah. I just assumed she "loves" conspiracies in the sense of the domestic madness sense. Not so much on a life or death scale. I doubt Chibby and Pete McTighe had to have a sit down about her opinions on conspiracies.
Two years late, but I agree, and in both Arachnids and Kerblam made it clear from the context what she meant. In the first case, the Doctor was reacting to Yaz's dad going on about his fanciful conspiracy *_theories,_* but in the second instance she was talking about a potentially *_real_* conspiracy - not a theory - that's causing people to be killed.
Not gonna name five moments, but just my one favorite moment of the series:
The solitract frog.
I loved everything about it (except maybe the wanky talking animation, should've just been telepathic). Not going into detail but i think it was the best choice to manifest the solitract like this. And this moment made me understand this doctor: curious and explorative, thrilled to meet crazy new things and see the universe. That's the first time i truly felt the "childlike wonder" jodie said her doctor had, and i love it.
Combined with the darker confrontational side you mentionned in this video this doctor could become quite an interesting one. Looking forward to series 12 hopefully expanding on both aspects.
I have watched every episode of series 11 twice and besides one episode, I do really enjoy series 11.
However I would like more growth for Doctor 13. Also even though Graham is great, I feel like he is taking some of the Doctors moments from the other two companions. I think people would of liked Jodie’s Doctor better if those Yaz and Graham conversation same with a few Ryan and Graham conversation. Imaging if those were the Doctors and Yaz conversation or Ryan and The Doctor. The Doctor would of shown that Grandparental figure and ancient wisdom that previous incarnations had moments of.
I also think 3 companions is one too many. It can work in some episodes but I feel like the Doctor with 2 companions is the best.
Just my thoughts but like I said I enjoyed Series 11.
Demons of the Punjab is my favorite Doctor Who story of all time. Words cannot do this masterpiece justice but I’ll try. Demons of the Punjab is really amazing and incredibly beautiful. The title is amazing and has so much meaning to it. The soundtrack and direction are fantastic. The Thijarians are the best execution of a monster not being threatening that I’d ever seen. The Thijarians inclusion in the story works because there a metaphor for the partition of India casualties being barley talked about. Graham is great as usual and is defiantly one of the best companions in the show’s history. The Wedding scene is fantastic. Prem’s death and his hologram becoming a part of the rest of the holograms of people that died in the partition of India is just heartbreaking. Everything about Demons of the Punjab is Glorious. 10/10
Mate, I really appreciate your work to call out the systematic hated that has been thrown against series 11. It's been crazy this year. Hating this series on youtube is its own click bate industry. Thanks for fighting back with facts when haters are doing their best to smother one of the worlds best Sci Fi shows. No question its finding its feet again and has had a bit of a dip...but lets get it straight....on the whole it's still pretty incredible.
inctredible, did we watch the same series
@@joeespin4377 Not the series! The show! The series could have been better. But the fundamentals are sound and if we get some better writing in the prognosis is good.
@@TooManyBrackets Yes the show is in good shape, but if that "good shape" doesn't include better writing, acting, show running, and show owning, the show will fail. Let's face it the BBC doesn't see this, and all its other series as entertainment vehicles anymore. They see it as a way to promote a culture that is agenda pushing, PC. When the agenda being pushed is an obvious detriment to the quality of story that it is you would think that that agenda would be dropped in the blink of an eye. But that's not the case with the BBC, they seem to be doubling down thus totally ruining a proud entertainment franchise.
@@joeespin4377 So we start out together Joe and the quickly separate. Where you see "Pushing an Agenda" I see them trying new things. Some of them work, some of them don't. Some is a bit clumsy and I'm looking forward to it's scifi roots, great storylines and snappy dialogue reasserting themselves. I'll be glad when they develop the things that work again but that doesn't mean it has to be exactly the same as it was before...it was always changing. I think a lot of fans didn't appreciate the level of talent that RTD and Moffat brought to the show until now. However if the show has an agenda then so does a lot of the criticism! If it's a choice between a "PC" agenda and an "alt-right" agenda then give me PC anytime.
@@TooManyBrackets RTD was the best show runner of nu who, Moffatt was a terrible show runner. He created the plot contrivance known as Clara and then kept her around much too long, then he gave us Missy not a good incarnation of the Master and River Song who really was not a well thought out character. He employed the mystery box type of writing but he never had a satisfying payoff to the mystery You mentioned good storytelling series 11 had amost none.
My personal top 5 best moments:
1) Prem's sacrifice ("Demons of the Punjab")
2) The Doctor's 'secret of existence' speech to King James I ("The Witchfinders)"
3) The Doctor saying goodbye to the Solitract ("It Takes You Away")
4) Ryan finally calling Graham 'granddad' ("It Takes You Away")
5) The Doctor confronting the makeshift Recon Dalek ("Resolution")
Thanks for addressing the whole controversy thing. I think that was handled very gracefully and you do make a good point about Jodie's Doctor being a Doctor for 2018 but personally I do think there's still a lot of love for a little moral ambiguity and it does ultimately suit the Doctor to a T to be a little less absolute. I mean, hey, people still like Iron Man.
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@@theuniverseshow9699 I did I've been flicking through comments because I was interested to see if there was any contriversal comments and I see his comments I don't need to say awesome he is because I've already said it
I also came away from Demons of the Punjab crying as well. And it's the one episode of Series 11 that I've wanted to see again and have rewatched several times, and each time it still gets me. It's a beautifully cathartic piece of television, definitely more about the emotions involved than the logic--which I think is what bothers those who don't like it as much--their logical brains want to dissect and disassemble everything, while they're not letting their hearts feel the story. I'm not saying turn off your brain, but sometimes you need to feel something for what it is before you jump into dissecting it.
I just wish it wasn't the only episode where Yaz was featured to any degree.
I actually really liked series 11. I feel it's quite underrated, so thank you for making this video, I hope it helps others to finally see all the good moments this series has.
Also, not to trivialize, but did anyone else notice that the younger actress that portrayed Yaz's grandmother in the past...she was bloody GORGEOUS? Wow!
Number 1 best moment in season 11
Graham existing
Now that's my favorite as well!
Some of the points raised in this video make me wonder even more why people didn't like any single thing about series 11. Like, you're allowed an opinion but some people go really extreme if they don't like something.
@NXTIME that's... oddly specific... did nine even get any staggering monologues? I personally find most of them very cringy but it's all based on personal opinion. There's not one set thing that defines the doctor. You're basically saying nothing is good in doctor who unless there's a speech? That basically discards most of the episodes then. Plus, you could argue that 13 had a lot of monologues, quite notably in demons of the punjab during her speech about love.
Also "I don't want to be a part of this" is my favourite moment of the series. It's legitimately a good scene.
Made me wanna cry 😭 also say what you will, I thought the liscensed music fit the scene well
5. The Doctor's Witch Trial
4. The Doctor Remembers Who She Is
3. The Opening of the Ghost Monument
2. The Doctor and the Solitract Frog
1. Ryan calls Graham "Grandad"
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE FROG SCENE!
People just don’t stop hating changes. Even when their good.
Awesome picks Trilbee. My Top 5 Best Season 11 Moments would be
1 The final moments of Demons Of The Punjab (Best)
2 The Dalek vs The Army Resolution
3 Rosa’s stand Rosa
4 The opening of The Ghost Monument
5 The Doctor meets Yasmin, Ryan, Graham and Grace for the first time The Woman Who Fell To Earth
I don't know why people say that the Demons of the Punjab would have been fine as a pure historical, because if you imagine that ending of the story without the Demons, it ends with the Doctor, Yaz, Ryan and Graham just walking away from someone being shot.
Great work on this video! Demons of the Punjab was definitely my favorite Series 11 episode but I did like Resolution the most just because it was a fun and exciting story with a returning villain. That’s basically why it’s my favorite 13 story thus far. I respect your opinion though.
Take care!
Man, even just hearing a brief synopsis of demons of the Punjab is enough to make me well up 😭 deffinately within top ten episodes for me
I noticed a lot of people picking up on The Doctor saying she loves conspiracies in Arachnid and then saying she hates them in Kerblam! and that's all fair enough, but I feel like it's not as bad as The Doctor saying "Line in the sand, no puns" in The Woman Who Lived and then making puns and referring to himself as "Dr. Puntastic" in The Zygon Inversion - the very next story.
That complaint bugs me too because the Doctor is never really consistent with what they're saying. Often they'll just throw away a line just to contradict themselves right after.
Heck, the entirety of 11's introduction is him saying "Oh I love this !" and then throwing said thing into the kitchen sink. So for me the contradiction feels very Doctoresque.
Thank you for such a constructive video! S11 certainly hasn't been the best there ever was, but it was solid and it had great moments. The hate that it's receiving truly baffles me, especially as - like you say - half the time the "arguments" are entirely made up. So thank you for being voice of reason. I shall proceed to check your other videos as well.
edit: I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said about "Demons". It is one master-piece of an episode with so much meta-text that it just stands out in a beautiful and memorable way.
inB4 someone says "Nothing"- Nothing.
Of course I'm joking. My favourite moments of the series were-
5. The Doctor's speech about the engine in The Tsuranga Conundrum. I thought the episode was weak but that moment really stood out.
4. Rosa Parks staying on the bus and that whole ending sequence. If it wasn't for the pop song it could have been higher.
3. The Doctor and King James's conversation in The Witchfinders.
2. Prem is killed and the TARDIS crew have no choice but to walk away.
1. Can I say all of It Takes You Away? To narrow down moments though- the Doctor's speech about losing more than the Solitract could know, the frog scene (it's genius) and the final moment where Ryan calls Graham "Grandad".
Thank you for talking about the positive moments of the "Tsuranga Conundrum." The things you mentioned (the P'ting, and the moment when it's blown out into space) keep reminding me of Galaxy Quest. (SPOILERS FOR Galaxy Quest) The P'ting itself is reminiscent of the cute, tiny Miners, who turn out to be cannibals.
The final shot of the P'ting is like the final shot of the G'rock's final moment, floating serenely in space after punching through the airlock of the Protector. I've heard that, in the original script, G'rock's true motivation was to get away from the noisy Miners, so, like the P'ting, G'rock had a happy ending.
The Pting reminded me more of Spike, the nastiest of the Gremlins.
Tsranga conundrum is fantastic, such a thrilling episode, demons of Punjab is my favourite episode of the series though, so emotionally engaging, brilliant writing
Blimey you’re a risk taker, choosing positive moments from Tsuranga AND Ghost Monument. Life on the edge!
😁😁 I jest of course. 😂😂 That single take shot at the start of Ghost Monument was indeed a marvel.
LOL! The ‘conspiracy’ scenario, so glad you picked up on that as it really niggled me at the time. It’s a bit worrying that we the viewers picked it up first time but no-one in script or edit did (nice re-edit by the way).
I agreed in one of your previous videos, that The Doctor acts differently when there are no companions about, especially noticeable in the King James confrontation and yes, this is definitely the version of The Doctor I prefer and I too hope that it’s a ‘front’ for her companions and this is the real deal. I hope we see more in series 12.
Sorry to hear that the comments in your other video were hijacked by nastiness especially as you were looking at it with a positive outlook (a heinous crime! 😲). I find it really refreshing that you look at both sides, good and bad. That’s why I like your videos, thoughtful and balanced. Please never stop. 🙏👍
I’m right there with you on Tsuranga Conundrum, Trilbee. REALLY liked that one.
Some great moments here, man.
At the risk of nitpicking - the love/hate of conspiracy is within context. The reaction to a conspiracy of mysterious garbage is not the same as a conspiracy that's whisking away sentients. It's like saying if you enjoyed the conspiracy theory that Elvis was taken into Witsec, you'd have to like the conspiracy that resulted in Love Canal.
I agree. The Doctor was reacting to Yaz's father's wacky *conspiracy theory* in "Arachnids", but she was referring to a potentially real - and life-threatening - *conspiracy* in "Kerblam".
(Sorry for responding to a two-year old post, but better late than never!)
Fantastic video! I agree with pretty much everything u said, I just love the positivity and honesty
Interesting picks. S11 wasn't the best for me, but i still appreciate it
You picked a few that I would pick as well. In no particular order:
* Opening of 'The Ghost Monument'
* Ending of 'Rosa'
* Graham hugs Prem in 'Demons of the Punjab'
* The Doctor talks to the Solitract in 'It Takes You Away'
* Grab bag of little Doctory details, such as: embracing the TARDIS at the end of 'Ghost Mohument', bum bag (aka fanny pack) in 'Arachnids', wet hair curl in 'Witches', custard cream joy, etc.
My 2 favorite stories of series 11 are resalution and it takes you away. I think they're both really underrated
Top five moments you say? OK I probably have a lot more than five but let's give this a go.
5: The Doctor's confrontation with Krasco in Rosa, I loved how she acted in that scene despite getting throttled, and when she throws his equipment through that laser beam, genius, I loved that.
4: When Jodie first crashed onto the scene in The Woman Who Fell To Earth that alone looked awesome, but then we have some slight notes of the Doctor Who theme to tell us that we're in safe hands, still watching the show we love, and when she electrified the tentacle thing it felt good to watch.
3: Demons Of The Punjab, yes a very, very good story, but also an emotionally heavy and hard one to witness. Nothing more I can say about that episode that hasn't been said already so I'm just going to name drop the ending of that episode finish my list and go off and cry about it
2: Rosa again was a really hard episode to watch made evident right off the bat by having Ryan getting whacked right across the face just for trying to do something nice for a white girl. The ending with Rosa refusing to stand and Graham not wanting to watch is beautifully done, I could've done without the music that played but it didn't effect me too much. The fact that I was feeling tense and wondering if the TARDIS crew would succeed or not was made all the more bitter sweet when they do succeed and get Rosa sent to prison, that's rough.
1: Admittedly I am a fan boy so this shouldn't be a surprise, but I had to put it above the scenes in Rosa and Demons Of The Punjab because while brilliant scenes they were never going to make me feel the same way I felt watching a lone Dalek made from scrap completely take out not just an army, but a take twice the size of it. Pure fan service done right and I could never wipe the dumb grin off of my face, nor did I want to. I loved the scene before with the Doctor confronting the Dalek, but it could not compare to a Dalek actually being more Dalek than any Dalek we've seen since at least 2010 right? I'm not saying make the Daleks crap only to have them be really awesome again later on, but knowing what I did about how the Daleks were treated before this, it definitely made me overblown with joy, and most people hated Resolution, heard apparently Terry Nation would be turning in his grave, like wtf?
I couldn't agree with you more for your first pick. Resolution gave us the best dalek story since 2005 and it reminded me WHY the Dalek's are feared and dangerous. You don't get that feeling with Into the Dalek or Victory of the Daleks
@@WHO_is_on_first How many of Journey Blue's troops were killed while they were "Into the Dalek"? Dangerous to them, at least until the Doctor brainwashes Rusty into becoming the ultimate Dalek killer.
Resolution is definitely the best dalek episode since “stolen earth/ journeys end” in my opinion and the best episode written by Chibnall (aside from his co-written credit with Rosa)
Regardless of whether Moffat’s dalek episodes were good or not, i never felt like the daleks had a threatening presence during his run as show-runner, and often than not it felt like they had to rely on other characters to tell you why and how they were scary 😜
I think what you said about tennent is spot on. It did take him a while to find his feet.
Do you think they got the name pting from the noise your phone make when you get a message through on messenger? Everytime I here I think of the pting.
I also enjoyed The Tsuranga Conundrum, it's not a perfect episode by any means, but I'm glad they didn't just go with generic scary alien for that episode, the Pting was interesting.
It's definitely true that Graham got the best of all the companions, I really hope we get a lot more for the other two next series, but that doesn't mean the other two got nothing.
I loved the scene in Rosa where Ryan and Yaz were discussing the fact that times have improved but we aren't there yet, it gives some insight into their views on the world and helps show that the show acknowledges that we're not still stuck in those times, but instead shows that our time is so much better, though we could still improve.
I really appreciated how Graham reacted in that particular scene in Rosa, you could feel how much he hated being there, it was such an excellent scene and is possibly one of my favourite examples of acting in Doctor Who to date.
The Ghost Monument wasn't perfect, but those opening scenes were VERY good, it's a shame that they didn't quite deliver on some of the things they mentioned in the episode, such as the flesh eating microbes in the water. It's not as bad as people make it out to be, but it could have been improved a bit.
Arachnids in the UK is probably the weakest episode in the series, and it's a shame because it would have been completely possible to avoid many of the issues in it, hell, I enjoyed a good chunk of the episode, the atmospheric feel at the start did a decent job at giving an eerie feel, the problems started around the time they tried to shove in some parallels to Donald Trump, I'm not a fan of America's presidential Oompa Loompa, but it was far too on the nose to handle it like that, and the Doctor leaving the spider to suffocate was inadvertently a much worse way of letting the spider die than just shooting it, the Trump clone shot it for the wrong reason, but it was nowhere near as cruel as leaving it to die slowly and painfully.
Scenes between the Doctor and King James are bloody excellent, I adored that episode for how playful it was at times, but how quickly it could turn itself around to darker themes.
Totally agree about Demons. The more I think about that story, theore I like it.
It is refreshing to see a positive take on Series 11. The SIW (Social Injustice Warriors) who predicted disaster when a woman was picked for the role of the Doctor cannot accept that it is not a disaster. Social and political messages have been a part of the show from the original series. Although I agree it is not the best series, it is far from the worst. Series 2 was far worse, and David Tennant eventually became a great Doctor. The show lacks good writing in Series 11, except for some of the non-Chibnall written stories.
Good on you for daring to share your opinion. 😁
I can't wait for the next series
Going to have to, for over a year :(
Same!
I cant't wait for the next showrunner/doctor.
@@vietvooj well, meanwhile no one gonna miss you. Byeeeeee
@@jessbelen1492 The BBC will miss me.
This was uploaded on my 17th birthday and I like the video
Great list! I’d be very interested in your series ranking.
Could say the same thing for the Bengal famine. Not much is mentioned or taught about that even though many millions died unnecessarily.
There are so many great moments. I can't decide.
My favoright part of the series is Jodie Foster as the doctor. Like you said I would like to see that seriouse side of her a little more. I think she can be really scary if she wanted too. But it took me a little bit to realize she dosn't want to be. She wants to be a friend and a peer figure, which sets her apart from her predesessors who have always needed to be in charge. I like the sublety of her leadership. She commands respect without constantly talking down to her friends.
I love the tsuranga conundrum. It is like a version of Nibbler from Futurama come to life, except it's a nightmarish form.
I feel like they need to figure out what this Doctor is leaning more towards. The way the series wrote her interactions is like a very classic Doctor where she’s not the focus and the normal people have all of the interesting/meaningful conversations. Yet the way her character is written is more like a modern Doctor where she feels more relatable (kind of). So instead of getting a more human Doctor we can emotionally invest in or a Doctor whose weirdness is so palpable they can just be themselves while the companions interact, she’s just kind of a person who’s also there. She’s not unique enough for her quirks to distinguish her and she’s not complex enough to be emotionally engaging. Nothing stands out about her because the show’s been redesigned that way-it feels, on accident.
And, based on all of her performances throughout the series, human-like Doctor is her greatest strength. I think they should lean into it.
I think that what you said in your disclaimer is brilliant
It's really more like ' the least bad moments of series 11'. There was only one really, that some of the story concepts were good (although they were developed really badly, so they turned out as really poor storylines).
Jodie excited about anti matter in Tsuranga.....Jodie speech to Alan Cumming in The Witchfinders....Jodie excited over the Kerblam man....finding the Tardis in The Ghost Monument....number one is Jodie and the frog
Didn't know Graham's surname was O'Brien, what episode is it mentioned in?
I think Grace referred to him by his full name in episode 1, I think it was on the train but I might be wrong.
@@Spadestiel Thanks for clearing that up, I must have forgotten
Everyone talks about how great a year 2019 will be:
Last season of GoT
IT part 2
Endgame
Star Wars Episode IX
Stranger Things season 3
The Last of Us part 2 (maybe)
Toy Story 4
But how can they say that if there is no Doctor Who?
My favourite moment from Doctor Who series 11 is when the Doctor backstabbed Graham flushing him into space, then read Rosa Carl Marx's biography and then lectured every racist white male capitalist villains while declaring the only true path to the future was to kill all cis-white-straight-male-scum...
Moment of the year
As for the "conspiracy mention" mishap in Series 11, I pretty much played it off as The Doctor still trying to find herself as this is her first series and she may still be finding herself a bit.
I just wanted to add that I follow your channel precisely because you address those issues that permeate the DW discourse and you do it so damn well. You are a fair, logical and reasoned beacon in a sea of angry DW UA-camrs with an entitled chip on their shoulder.
Please don’t shy away from the topic because what you say is important and needs to be said.
I agree that a lot of people want these flawless down to earth heros, like Captain America and Wonder Woman, but even those characters have inner turmoil. CA chose to help his friend and alienated his team in the process, he also lost half of his team to thanos and is now dealing with the thought that he failed to protect them, WW lost the love of her life and her entire family was destroyed. You can feel the loneliness within her, and I really think they should implement a darker side to the 13th Doctor to give her more depth. At least give her a speech that conveys the loneliness of losing Missy, her best friend that she literally just lost at the end of last season or the fact that she outlives every companion she has ever had. Give her a scene where she breaks down because her best friend literally killed herself, or how she feels cursed that she can never age with her companions
What I have liked with the 13th Doctor is that she makes mistakes and bad calls. More so than it feels like the Doctor has for a long time. Rather like in the classic era the Doctor is again capable of making tactical missteps and I appreciate Chibnall returning that fallibility to the role. Too often Nu-Who makes the Doctor out to be a lonely God figure with whom nobody can ever fully empathise, and although that is part of the mythos, I like the Doctor to be seen to be figuring stuff out just like everyone else.
I do like the interpretation of Jodie's Doctor that a lot of her BFF joviality and awkward oversharing is to cover up a more dark and cynical nature that she's trying to suppress in herself. It would be great to put her into situations in future where sometimes that darkness can break out.
Incidentally she doesn't know about the Master's fate. She only knows Missy went off with her younger self before the battle.
CountScarlioni oh yeah, that’s right nobody knows Missy is dead except the master who is now Missy who will soon die. Trippy lol. But yeah that is true, she is a lot like the Davison’s Doctor in the sense that she is very close with her friends/companions and does make quite a bit of mistakes. One thing I would like them to do though, is make a more solid set of moral values for Jodies doctor. One episode she would be completely against killing but then would lock a bunch of spiders in a panic room and let them starve to death. Part of having a moral code and seeing how each doctor created their morals were what made them each so individual from the other.
CountScarlioni idk I feel like 13th is likeable, but she hasn’t truly stood out from the rest like 11 did on his debut or 12 did about 4 episodes in.
Hooray! A positive attitude to series Eleven! Surely this is the best type of video? There is no need for critics to be polarised in their reviews. Evaluation involves weighing up good and bad qualities. So, I will look out for your other, negative video!
How's the review for Journey to the Centre of the Tardis going?
I liked series 11 and I think the Thirteenth Doctor is adorable (so is the P'Ting). Yaz was definitely underutilized but I still love her (the development is lacking, but the acting/execution are compelling). Everyone else is, of course, entitled to their own opinions, but people could stand to tone down the hate a little.
Okay! I'm at the 10 minute mark and I had to pause there. Rosa. Oh boy. You raise a brilliant point with how those that stood against the Jim Crowe laws were victimised and brutally attacked. This has been my problem with that episode from the beginning, that this aspect was one of several not given enough attention.
You raised an example, James Reeb, and in doing so made my point. This is something that was never truly addressed in the show. Neither was Claudette Colvin, a young black girl that was arrested exactly like Rosa Parks was only a few months earlier! The issues at the time were many and very complicated, stretching back to the American Civil War. All far too involved to ever explore in necessary detail, especially in a 50 minute TV episode. Instead what we got was a rushed confused mess that required people to go and research the subject.
In effect a two paragraph wiki article with *Citation Needed every other sentence!
I don't want to be bashed of the head with something that should be subtext, but at the same time you have to make the message clear. Rosa needed to be either later in the series, with all the characters firmly established giving more time to the plot, or a two parter. Giving it enough time to really explore the complex issues. Raising points like the one you made here and explaining how the whole culture was the problem. Ideally both.
Failing that it might have been an idea for someone to remember that good Science Fiction uses metaphor and analogy to get it's point across. Transposing the events into a future / alternate setting would have made the message a lot cleaner, raised as much awareness and wouldn't have been as historically inaccurate!
Most drama has to truncate and simplify reality. I don't think anything that you or Mr Tardis mentioned would have improved the story. I think that there was an unreasonable burden of representation placed on the episode by fan critics. It is a bit like criticising The Romans of excluding the long history of mad Roman Emperors, or Ten thousand Years BC for not including a more diverse range of hominids.
My problem with the Rosa Parks episode was that it reinforced the myth that Rosa Parks herself denounced many times. She did not become involved in the bus issue because she was tired. There were two conflicting laws, one saying that you could not ask someone to change seats and the Jim Crow law that said black people had to sit in certain places. Before that moment, she was trying to talk another woman who did something almost identical into taking the issue to court but this other woman was too scared. Rosa Parks sat in that bus and made a tactical decision to protest by maintaining her seat because she wanted to fight the conflicting law in court.
But then I took a step back and remembered that most historical episodes are done in English history and I don't have the same familiarity to know if they're being accurate- and likely, they're not. So I took a chill pill lol.
@What Doctor will she be in the future (the Post 20 Min. talk.): This imo, also sounds a balance that some former Doctors had to deal with, pendeling between being "Human" and "Alien/Thousands of Years Old Lonely God".
Go spend a couple hours on the internet. You’ll find far more racist, transphobic, misogynistic comments than you ever will in the comment section of a positive review for a bad episode of television.
The best moment of Doctor Who Season 11 was Graham's giving his sandwich to the girl.
The second best moment was the response of Graham, when the Doctor said, he should not kill Tim Shaw. ("I will kill him anyway")
Third: Graham in Keblam.
Fourth: Graham doing things
Fifth: Graham doing other things
MrTardis, Sir:
As a lifelong Whovian (I mean, I was a Doctor Who fan when Doctor Who wasn’t cool!), I sincerely appreciate your subjective opinion concerning this topic. I had no other way of communicating with you, and I need your unique view and subjective opinion, btw, on two things that have come up recently, which intersect your particular explanation of issues here on your UA-cam channel; so I’m reaching out to you here in the comments section of your most recent video.
1. Please explain the huge discrepancy between critics scores of The Orville season one (32%) and the critics score of The Orville season two (100%) and why or how this could be?!
2. With the release of David Tennant’s podcast interview with Jodie Whittaker, how do you break it down as it pertains to Doctor Who? Does Jodie shine a lot of light, whether knowingly or not, upon why her casting turned out to be disastrous for Doctor Who? With her admission of not being a fan and her own personal decision to not place much weight upon the characters extensive history when she did what actors and actresses do in researching a role, I think explains so much of why many Whovians did not feel like they were getting “The Doctor” from her performance!
I really want to hear your two cents into these things if you wouldn’t mind. Thank you MrTardis!
Being a fan of the show is hardly a requirement for being the Doctor. As I recall the first actor playing the Doctor to acknowledge being a fan of the show beforehand was Colin Baker. Then you've got Christopher Eccleston who not only wasn't a fan, he admitted in interviews to having actively disliked the series for being posh and elitist. Matt Smith likewise knew nothing about the show until getting cast in the part. Really, only Tennant and Capaldi are fans-turned-Doctors.
I enjoy series 11, like a lot. I love Whitaker and her companions. I wasn’t too thrilled with the series finale either but Resolution was fantastic.
Also James Reeb episode when?
To me, after all the Bullshit that Moffat gave us over the past 6-8 years. I would take series 11 anytime.
Series 11 was a breath of fresh air, I love The 13th Doctor, I love her Sonic Screwdriver and I fucking love her T.A.R.D.I.S.
And if some people don’t like it because she’s a woman or if they think The “Feminazis/SJW” have taking over it. Grow a fucking pair and get over it. There are no SJWs or feminists taking over the BBC. The ratings of Rotten Tomato mean bugger all. And also, there is nothing you can do to change the show. The Doctor is a Female. There! You don’t like it? Tough! The action has been made!
I'm intrigued, what are some examples of the bullshit Moffat has given us?
Oliver Lawrence look at the Doctor Who reviews from The Desolated Quill. She knows a lot and know what she’s saying. Also they are really fun to read.
1. The Doctor blows a goodbye kiss to the Solitract frog
And half it's audience.
You are so biased? How can you only be positive about such a terrible series? I know how, it's because you're a BBC shill, if you were a true fan you'd know to hate hahaha no just joking, but can you imagine?
Can you imagine watch the video before comment something?
@@jessbelen1492 Can you imagine reading a comment before replying to it?
@@Adam-nb6im can you imagine keeping the the joke going on?
Jess Lopez Can you imagine pretending you were joking?
Guys, stop mingling and appreciate my funny comment.
Just realized something. Your top 5 worst scenes of the series has 2 the amount of views.
Yeah there's plenty wrong with season 11, but people just make shit up or exaggerate to hell and back just to push their agenda.
Irony.
I liked that they dropped the Doctor’s reputation. I never really liked that the Doctor can just scare people away by telling people who they were. There was an entire army dedicated to taking down the Eleventh Doctor because he was such a big deal. I never liked that. It didn’t bug me so much in Silence of the library or the Eleventh Hour because the villains actually had to bother Googling it, but I never liked that the Doctor has this huge reputation throughout the universe.
imo series 11 is one of jodie's best seasons, followed by series 12. I do agree her stories and character could've been greatly improved on, but what we have now isn't the worst we've ever had before. I'd also put 13 up near 11, with 9, 10 and 12 right above
I love S11 in my opinion
Here's a question why does the Chibnall era feel very Yellow? I always associate RTD with Red and Moffy with Blue so Chibby with Yellow?
My big issue with series 11 was it was dull. The sci-fi elements were weak, the writing was serviceable at best, and the villians were totally forgettable. Dr. Who has always been wildly inconsistent in terms of delivering perfect episodes, but it's rarely been this boring week after week.
Jodie Whittaker as 13th Doctor (my favorite incarnation) has great entrance in 10th season finale and how she appears as The Woman Who Fell On Earth. Thre first two episodes are great, the third is very good. The fourth eposode is deffinately the worst one, seventh episode is Tennant - like doctor story. First two episodes almost without tardis are very good and they are surprising us many times. The new doctor's character, her behavior, aproaches to the problems she has to solve are very interesting. The best episode is "Demons of the Punhab". The best moment for sure is when Tijarians tells The Doctor what happened to them, who they became and what's going to happen. It's a first of two moments in this episode, when I cried. In final episode Dalec was brought back with dignity after all this sh*t since long time. Now I'm waiting for more.
The best part of this series was when it finished.....
....nah jk it was probably the end of Rosa
'Demons of the Punjab is the best story in the past five years', seriously?
*You think that Demons of the Punjab was better than Heaven Sent...*
I actually talk about 'Heaven Sent' in comparison to 'Demons of the Punjab' like...5 seconds later.
Please watch the video.
I think it's worth saying regardless. To say that it even rivals Heaven Sent (and The Girl Who Waited) is very far-fetched (imo).
Also I'd just like to point out that by saying that Demons of the Punjab is the best story since The Girl Who Waited you're also saying it's better than the likes of The Day of the Doctor...
@@danman4545 Are you incapable of understanding that humans have different opinions on things?
I know people who didn’t like it at all... and that’s okay 👌 doesn’t stop me from having the opinion it’s one of the best episodes ever
(I don’t remember being into “the girl who waited” when it came out, looking back now it’s actually pretty amazing.... those robots and their “menacing” silly walk though 😜 )
Witchfinders is my favourite nWho episode so far mostly because of the way it treats King James. We're really removed from him by history but he was a tyrant who killed as big a portion of his population as the worst of the 20th Century dictators did of theirs. But the Doctor doesn't confront him like a monster, she treats him as a flawed human being and by the end of the episode she's made a kind of uneasy truce with him. This is the Doctor who "spent many happy days with Tse Teung," who taught Richard I the virtues of peacemaking, who corrected his companions' misconceptions of King John (if a little clumsily), who casually talked the Earth Controller out of collaboration with the Daleks and most of all who stuffed the Cambridge Spies, Harry Truman and Joseph Stalin into his TARDIS to stop the cold war going hot (did I mention how much I love Terrance Dicks novels?)
Series 11 is fine. It's not the worst series of television I've ever watched, hell, it's probably better than Series 2 or 7 imo.
WARNING! Video may contain traces of positivity.
If you don't need the disclaimer, the review starts at 3:10 😂😂😂
The Best parts of Series 11 -
1. Bradley Walsh
2. Segan Akinola
3. The End
Am from huddersfield, I am a big who fan, it hurts me to say, this series was trash. Sorry. Absolute trash.
You're not sorry at all, are you? That is tough because we'll be back in 2020-and the maniacs Will still be raving! Pity no one knows where any of them live.,.......
@@dawn1110uk I am sorry.. I couldn't be more proud to have a icon like the doctor be from my home town. But unfortunately she butchered the role.. I blame the writers because I want to blame anyone else. Remember when the doctor was a being as old as time, intergalactic royalty, a warrior who turned the tides of battles the shaped the universe.? I doubt that doctor will return. Love Jodie hate her Interpretation.
I’m surprised you could find even 5
Honestly, in retrospect, I could have named another 4 or 5 moments and made this a Top 10 no problem.
Ive been in Doctor Who fandom since 1976. I've been to countless conventions, been a member of many groups and forums, and I've never in all my life encountered anyone quite as sad and pathetic as William Carlisle. An embarrassment to Doctor Who fans everywhere and a prime example of how warped and unhinged the nuwho fanbase has become.
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Lol this cracked me up, definitely sounds like a copypasta.
My favourite part of series 11 was when it ended
Plus, I'm sure if Chibnall and Malorie Blackman wanted to write an episode about the non-racist white people, they would have, but the episode is about Rosa Parkes.
how can anyone like series 11, to say Jodie's acting was as good as Sophia Coppola's in Godfateher 3, the scripts were awful, tardis was too full, the tardis interior and the pting, the spiders were all terrible, Yaz was as worthless as Clara and Adric were. and the wordt of all having the doctor not be focus of the story in her own show.
@PikaCinema did i ever say thata person has no right to like something i do not....i think not?
@@joeespin4377 You said "how can anyone like series 11" suggesting anyone who likes it is an idiot.
@PikaCinema yes i see that now and the question still stands.
@PikaCinema my remarks were not meant to convey the feeling that everyone who happens to like the series is some hoe mentally deficient. although i DID put forth the question. I do apologize if my remarks made you or anyone who happened to derive some enjoyment out of something that gave me so little enjoyment .
wops i left that statement incomplete: feel ;ike i was saying you were idiots>
There’s no good moments
What a adorable grumpy boy
@@francisbarraclough959 thanks
So to be relevant in 2018, you must be a strong woman character. Strong male characters shouldn't be just as timeless and relevant in _every year_ just as women should be?
What a warped world view.
All that does is immediately shut down conversation by joining the bandwagon for what will essentially be a passing fad.
And it actually hurts progression, by inappropriately inserting social causes rather than letting it _organically evolve_ in a way that is accepted by everyone.
People don't get defensive that way, but a heavy-handed approach of doing things like turning Thor into a woman, even though there are plenty of women Norse heroines they could have chosen, will only create an opposition that wasn't there before. Literally hurting their own cause with their own efforts.
As I said, it is just the cause dujour and in a few years nobody will have even remembered this silly attempt by the media to indoctrinate the public with their own social agendas.
1) I never said that. You went on a 5 paragraph response based on something I didn't even say and something I don't believe.
2) I've cited Captain America, a male character, as a good relevant example in 2028.
So...maybe actually listen to people before getting angry at imaginary issues.
This exist?
The only good moments of S11 were the end credits.
Such discourse.
Series 11 wasn't good, and you're deluded if you think it was.
It was alright.
@dr103 they can, it's just objectively wrong
dr103 m - I get what you’re saying. And I agree that opinions about if something is “good” or “bad” can’t be wrong. They are subjective.
But I do think it’s important to say not all opinions have that protection. For example if someone says “it’s my opinion that gravity doesn’t exists” that IS a wrong opinion. It is a provable false hood.
I know that’s not the situation in this discussion but I’ve seen so many people in life state that ANY opinion is equally valid regardless on if it’s a subjective subject or an objective one that it needed pointing out.
Series 11 wasn't all bad, and you're deluded if you think it was. :-P
there wasant any best bits it was rubbish
Besides Kablam, I thoroughly enjoyed most of Series 11. It's a nice break from all of the convoluted or downright depressing overarching plots of the Moffat Era. It knew when to be funny, when to be serious, when to be lighthearted, when to be dark. I think it's probably the most *consistently* good series since Series 1. Not the best, but the most consistent.
My favorite moment would have to be Graham's eulogy at Grace's funeral. It's the first time I cried at Doctor Who since Amy & Rory's deaths in "The Angels Take Manhattan" and it's really a testament to Chibnall's stellar character writing and Bradley Walsh's skill as an actor.