The Truth About Concealed Vs Open Carry
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Concealed carry for the hoods, open carry for the woods!
I’ll keep this in mind
Dang man, that's a good saying right there!
One requires a license, one doesnt. So remember that. You cant just tuck it whenever you want, you need a permit at that point.
@@weewee9464 keep in mind you need a special permit to concealed carry, and you dont for open carry. In many states.
@@KiLLJOY1056 class is easy and only cost 150 to get the licenses at the sheriffs office 👍
If everyone who carried concealed decided to open carry, the amount of guns you would physically see out in public would be enormous. Open carry would suddenly turn into a not so "dangerous" activity. If you're commonly walking around in public with friends or a significant other, then open carry together or as a group. Numbers matter in regards to deterring criminals too.
I like when I'm walking around, gun on my chest, minding my own business and being and upstanding, when I notice other armed civilians. We see each other and get a little warm and fuzzy, every time.
@@nathanielerskine1875 yeah. Its always good to see someone else who isn't a nazi about concealed carry. Concealed carry is totally fine but I think it would be beneficial if open carry would be normalized.
Is your profile photo a mash-up of Bill Cosby & Donald Trump?
@@davidburcar7620 youre damn right it is.
I find the opposite... I'm more surprised that so few people actually carry. I know people with concealed carry permits who rarely carry.
Do what you want. I generally open carry because its more comfortable, more accessible and because I want to normalize it. Im also not concerned about who sees it and how it puts a target on me. No ones going to try me.
I also live in a small town outside a small city in a county of only like 20k pop.
Roll tide
Never know when someone’s going to try you. Safer to assume they’re willing to than to assume they’re not. Not saying you’re wrong, just saying, people have thought folks won’t try them, and end up tried.
@@PrinceofNothing777that's the problem with some people with the "try me" attitude. Some found out. I try to look as normal as possible, and I live in rural Utah.
Carry the way that you’re comfortable with, just make sure you carry.
Excellent philosophy
not if it's against the law,,,,,,unless you want to go to prison .....
@@enzomadonia8674 i only visit the 20 states that i know have permitless open and or concealed carry
@@enzomadonia8674there is no constitutional law making it illegal to carry weapons in the United States.
@@ominousentity1115 But you will still go to jail
Concealed carry goes with my morals of not letting know anyone other than trusted friends and family that I'm armed. Decorating your car with weapon manufacturer logos, wearing pro 2A statements across your chest, and not to mention open carrying is most certainly your right but it's also what criminals will look for when your guard is down. It's the smartest to be a lowkey operator than intimidating to absolutely everyone, I don't care if I'm living in the boonies or suburbia.
Exactly.
Yep
Agree 💯
Agreed.
Gray man…
I open carry 1- because it’s just more comfortable to me. 2- I ain’t worried about others being uncomfortable or worried. I get more thank yous than negative comments. As a truck driver I open carry in 38 states and abided by all the ( not quite sensible) laws.
I thought truck drivers were not allowed to have firearms on them or in truck, while driving. I was assuming you're talking about carrying while working as a trucker. Thanks also for bringing me literally everything I need in life, besides air. Without trucks, America stops.
@@chuychubasquino2957doesn’t matter what’s “allowed.” I used to truck, and I value my life more than breaking the law.
@@chuychubasquino2957 It's a myth, at least as far as the law is concerned. There are no DOT regs pertaining to firearms. It's only state laws that you'd have to "worry" about. As long as it's legal in a state, then it's legal for truck drivers as well. The one caveat to this, in ANY state, is that trucking companies, or insurance providers, may prohibit carrying a firearm in the truck. (Many, if not most, do.) However, what they don't know, well, you know. And yes, I'm a driver too, with over 25 years of experience.
Actually, I've had people complain about people open carrying at a BBQ that I host once a month during the warmer months in a public park in Minnesota. The anti-gunners in MN have been keeping track of the records of ALL people with handgun carry permits. It turns out that we are between 4 to 11 times LESS likely to commit a crime (depending upon the crime category) than people WITHOUT handgun carry permits! I don't think that they expected that.
...that's why Rights require no permit. Even the supreme court solidified this in the Bruen ruling. A permit is NOT required to carry concealed, as concealed carrying is every bit a Right as open carry. The Right to bear arms is the Right to bear arms. Matters not how or where you carry. Of course, that won't change the fact that we are a nation of Cowards, who will beg permission to exercise Rights... then act as if someone else is responsible for our unjust gun "laws". Cowards get the tyranny that cowards deserve, because cowards get the tyranny that cowards allow (and therefore create for themselves).
So how did the anti-gunners keep track of all the records?
@@mikebussy3334 It's the actual State of Minnesota that is keeping track of the records. I'm not sure of the actual process, but all of the records are public and available to government officials.
People really gotta chill... If there was something wrong with it then surely something bad would have happened by now.
My career began in 1968 & we were required to carry, concealed, off duty & I’ve been doing it that way ever since. I don’t like drawing attention to myself & nothing does that like walking around w/an open carry weapon. I’m not judging others, to each their own.
Concealed is much more tactical and advantageous.
As a retired police officer myself, I agree. I don't open carry. That's my choice. If someone else wants to open carry, I don't have a problem with it.
@@garyK.45ACP i do both I carry my polymer guns concealed but open carry my colt pythons too nice to conceal lol
I am a LEO. The only time I open carry is when I’m in uniform or acting in a law enforcement function. Off duty and daily carry it’s always concealed.
I agree, same for me. As a plainclothes detective I still don't like walking around with my gun exposed, even though I have cuffs, extra mags, and a badge hanging off my belt so everyone knows I'm a LEO, I'm still more comfortable having the element of surprise on my side and keeping things covered up. I am totally against open carry for a regular citizen. I think it is a big mistake, but that's just my personal opinion.
@@bobbyfanman1734 so you're against someone practicing there constitutional right? You're supposed to uphold the constitution. I open carry when I want or conceal when I want... I paid the 177$ for the license, which in my state turned into constitutional carry anyways. So I'll carry it how I want. My state is open or conceal carry.... If I'm in a store or around a bunch of people I'll conceal it. If I'm walking my dog or going to a range I open carry... However people carry their firearm is their business...
@@georgeadkins2824 Calm down, princess. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@@georgeadkins2824 He didn't say he was against your constitutional rights to protect yourself. he just said that he doesn't think people should open carry.
As a LEO, you'd probably like to get the drop on someone, instead of being left alone in the first place.
I only open carry at three places, my house, when I'm out in the woods and at my gun club. Otherwise, when I'm in general public I always conceal carry.
My take: this may be long.
I’m a very large black man. I’m scary looking enough without a visible gun on my hip.
That said, I tend to dress in “friendly”, non-threatening colors. Yes, I’m the 300 pounder in the pink shirt.
If the SHTF to the East, I hope to see it long before it’s in my face. Ergo…go west when you start looking for me. As far as you can go.
I don’t have a badge, rifle, comms, color of the day. I don’t intend to be threatening to the police when they arrive.
What ever the s*** is that is hitting the fan, it will also have to come find me.
Duty to retreat or not, that’s my plan. It will also stand me in good stead when the battle goes to the courtroom. If they come to where I’ve decided to protect me and mine…then there will be “issues” and I intend to be the one that goes home.
Great thread man. Welcome to the channel. Appreciate your prospective. I worry about what to do when law enforcement arrives and I’m white, old, and some what non intimidating.
you're good. you have to be comfortable with every day carry or you'll leave it at home where it does no good. go about your business and be situationally aware.
It's better to avoid problems for sure.
VERY well said
@@furnacefighter my youngest son is a LEO. He approves of my plan to unass the area. Find a place to hole up/or my car and go.
If the problem comes to find me and mine, only then will it become a “self defense scenario” on my part.
And even with no duty to retreat, not starting the situation, responding with like force, trying to avoid the situation altogether…will stand me in good stead if I have to “de-escalate a threat in a possibly permanent manner”.
I too like to open carry on some occasions. But I believe you are absolutely correct with concealed being a huge advantage in shtf situations.
This video was posted 4 hours ago. This man is a time traveler
I have been open carrying daily since 1996 without issue from Seattle to Boise to Vegas to Phoenix with no problems ever. Concealed carry makes you look like a personal gun free zone and open carry projects visually you are a hardened target. Criminals are not super ninjas, they are looking for an easy target, not an armed target.
The fact is, there is just not any overwhelming evidence that open carry is more dangerous. There have been very, very, very limited incidents of OCers that are victim of crimes, or commit crimes. OTH there have been numerous incidents of both with conceal carry, and even if justified, any shooting is is going to be life changing. Personally I think the whole I wanna surprise the bad guy thinking is bad, and WILL come back to bite you in court if you are on record. Now the maker of this video is on record, and IF he is in a shooting, it will be played back in court if he is indicted. Sometimes people should talk to lawyers before making stupid videos.
Correct. Violent attacks are fast, stressful, ugly. Unless you are in a HIGH RISK ⚠️ area, few people will glance or see what is on your hip or belt. NO one cares. 😒 Open Carry does not make you a super ninja or Walker Texas Ranger.
...but they do ambush.
Precisely. Imagine you're a criminal; do you want to start crap in an area where someone POSSIBLY has a gun or DEFINITELY has a gun?
@@redredred1 if they were smart they would go after the ones open carrying and bum rush them.
Just because I can see it doesn’t mKe me scared. Just makes me act more stealthy.
It’s going to take you a second to pull your gun and get on point.
Whereas I already have mine out and aiming.
The point of concealed is so if a situation like that happens they won’t suspect a gun and you can ambush them.
If they see the gun they go straight for you.
If they weren’t bitches about it.
But that’s just me.
One bit of advice for open carry not mentioned is if you choose to is to use a quality holster with at least level 2 retention like a safariland
And what retention should someone who CCs have?
@@LGB-FJB passive retention, usually adjustable.
I use a Galco King Tuk for CC, and Safari land level 2 for open carry. CC is a fast draw, OC requires you to alert me you are grabbing my holster so gives me a chance
I’m so on the fence…I have been CC for about two years…I’m very comfortable and do drills once or twice a week still drawing my firearm from my ITW front carry holster hidden under a loose shirt. I would like to open carry, but am concerned someone may try to grab my firearm if they see it there on me. My conflict is that a potential attacker may target me while cc …and may bypass me when open carry…but they may also try to grab it seeing that I’m a bit older woman thinking they can easily get it from me…I’ll likely continue to CC… Thank you providing pros and cons for each. I think of extreme importance, for ALL of us…carrying or not, is situational awareness.
Get a level 3 retention holster. Eliminates that issue
@@iamTkzs Fantastic option! I just looked that up…thank you so much for the suggestion!
There is nothing wrong with open carry if you are smart with it. I did it over a year on my 3 o'clock. Most people never noticed due to my positioning and relaxed demeanor. I also had a locking retention holster in case someone saw and went for it. I never let people linger behind me and always kept situation awareness. One time I was in a pet store and the manager's son spotted it on my hip ( I didn't realize it was take your child to work day) she proceeded to follow me around the whole store and checked me out herself when I was done shopping. She was very rude and short with me. Kinda confusing why you would mess with an armed person like that 😂 Even if I was a danger... Why would you be rude and try to piss me off? I could potentially save your life! There was also one time when i was in the city and 3 men were following me around sizing me up. They followed me at least a mile and I chose indirect paths to verify that they were indeed following me in particular. Once it was clear I stopped and leaned against a wall turning to show my OWB holster on my hip. They took notice and dispersed in the opposite direction. I heard a low "oh sh!t" and they were gone. I didn't have to say a thing or throw a nasty look at all. It is definitely a deterrent.
I had to open carry while I waited for my CCL to process. My county took over a year and a half to process it. It was pathetic.
Supreme court has ruled that a permit is no longer required to carry concealed, because carrying concealed is every bit a Right as open carry. Of course, we didn't need their permission or approval, because it is a Right... but in a nation of Cowards, people are Still begging permission to exercise a Right.
@@deucedeuce1572 i agree but they would charge me here if i were to be caught concealing without a ccl. I couldnt really afford crazy attorney fees at the same
Yeah if they were smart it is easy to take people like you out unfortunately.
But those was just minor league.
A smart one would have a few follow you as they did and another in a vehicle the opposite direction waiting for you to look at them cause once you do.
Even with it on your hip. It’s going to take you a second to pull it when they already have it pulled out and aiming.
Now most would completely miss
@@Migazii if they were smart they wouldn't be committing crimes
@@Migazii Smart criminals always surprise attack their victims... so it don't matter if they have a gun on them or not, open or concealed. You don't draw "from the drop"... but a smart criminal will always have you "from the drop". They will be on top of you before you even know you're being targeted.
There are cases though where armed people (open carrying) were specifically targeted for their gun though. I think concealed carry is a must when it comes to a society of cowards and fools that don't carry firearms. In any case, carrying concealed is every bit a Right as open carry... and it requires no permission or approval to exercise any Right.
Around people (that I don't know) I conceal, when I'm in the country by myself walking around or working on something by myself I open. Just like guns and calibers, depends on the situation.
It makes sense to me that in rural, relatively unpopulated areas then open carry can be a good option. if you do run into jokers it lets them know from a distance you’re not entertaining it.
After several belts and holsters, I found the best that works for me is a Vedder pancake holster OWB and a Blue Alpha belt. I wear a shirt that covers it all, if I want to open carry the shirt gets tucked in. I have spent several $ to find the combo that works for me!
I like to carry outside the waistband. But I try to wear larger/longer shirts and jackets to cover my gun and holster. I have been around several people, friends and coworkers who had no idea I was carrying. So I guess it works well enough. It should maybe be noted that I carry a smaller pistol, Springfield Hellcat. Also, I still use a holster with adjustable retention just in case.
Be careful with that retention if it’s pressing on the trigger guard. Bent mine up toward the trigger as a new handgun owner/carrier. Springfield was kind enough to replace the pistol, but made sure to tell me to be careful with retention.
Personal opinion. I carry a p320 m18 i only open carry with lvl 2 and lvl 3 retentions. Conceal carry i believe is for people that dont have the confidence to open carry. Its not for everyone. And alot of people dont want to draw attention. But its a tool. For protection. To save you. To save lives. But i agree. No matter what, always be aware of your surroundings. Never let your guard down. Just be aware. Be responsible. And always use logical sense.
Thank goodness I live in idaho. People are used to open carry here. I conceal most of the time, but maybe a couple times a week, I'll open carry.
I have my permit to conceal, and a great pocket piece. I'm also a fan of having a larger handgun on the shoulder holster, and I like to see other people open carrying.
I also prefer to see people open carrying!
I as well. It's comforting when I see someone carrying. It's always made me feel a little safer and now I open carry.
Retired Corrections Officer here. If criminals were smart, they wouldn't be criminals. I live in rural PA farm country. I open carry at home and conceal IWB when I am out among the general public. Each mode of carry has it's time and place, carry safely with good situational awareness!
I do both. Time and place for each. I do open bc it is more comfortable and sometime just to strike up conversation. CC is easy. You can do it any time.
Live, and let live, or mind your own business is a concept that makes life much more simple. I almost always OC, AND CC at the same time. Heck, right now there is a Colt SAA under my desk, while behind me is a open, ready to go compound bow behind me on the wall. I carry open but conceal my BUG, I don't want to "surprise" anyone, or be surprised, or be a victim. I know that for myself, and probably most people I don't want to get shot. So what makes people think that criminals want to get shot, why not pick the safest victim to commit a crime. Ya know someone who is, or appears to be unarmed.
I started to really like carrying on a chest holster, so to me that is a middle option. I wear a T shirt, then the chest holster, then any type of zippered shirt or jacket. Then you can leave it half open, and people still dont really see it and its super accessible. My new go to option.
What holster do you use? I'm torn between a few.
Ruger redhawk short barrel, chest holster!
I live in very rural, very conservaative, horse country in southern AZ. A LOT of men open carry here. It's very cool. It's a way of life. It's a pride on our American rights. And there is no crime here. As in none...zero...nada. 😎
When I go into a bigger city like Tucson or Phoenix, I keep that pistol right where it is on my hip and cover it with a light, open shirt or jacket.
The key is PRACTICING your draw from a consistant position and from a really good quality holster on a good quality belt.
I have found for me shoulder holster is the best way to carry hands down it is the most comfortable even after 10 hours I hardly know it's even there.
I agree on a lot of what you said. I’m old school and have carried for over 40 years. Most of the time with a full size 1911 and open carry. Within the last 10 yrs I’ve gotten my CCW. I agree with the element of surprise . But open carry does have a place also. I use both a lot and it depends on my environment. I’ve lived in Az my whole life and this is a 2A friendly state. All I can say is practice is everything and situational awareness are key . Rember you are the frist line of defense for you and your family’s safety. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I agree 100% great vid. Open carry is good for the woods, i dont think its anyones business if im armed. Open carry freaks people out, plus honestly open carry looks like the person has self esteem issues. Just my thoughts
I rather disagree on the note that open carry is not a fashion statement. Open carry SHOULD be a fashion statement and open carriers should embrace that concept with engraved pieces and embroidered holsters
I live in a state that does not have constitutional carry so I open carry. I will not register with the government to exercise my constitutional right to bear arms. I open carry so much that people at my local stores don't bat an eye at me. That being said I also think that people with bad intentions see me and bugger off instead of trying anything, and that goes along with my strict adherence to situational awareness. Go ahead and try to sneak up on me and take my gun, I dare ya. One more thing I like about open carry is that I can draw with one hand, concealed you can't do it easily or quickly because you need to get your shirt out of the way, food for thought.
You actually can draw with 1 hand reliably and rather quickly with some practice
@@CountryTortoise You cannot draw as fast CC vs OC.
@@LGB-FJB never said you could bucko
NO state has carry without infringements…..
Treat every place you go like it’s the bad part of town!!! Great advice.
Weapon retention is something not addressed in this video, and is a very important thing to consider when open carrying. If you’re more comfortable open carrying, be sure to have adequate training in weapon retention and hand2hand combat. It can save your life and the lives of others.
He mentioned having an active retention holster for open carry, so people cannot just grab his gun.
I don’t have a security sign out front. I just sprinkle empty shell casings around front, from range days.
I recently began concealed carry so as not to draw attention to myself. I will conceal carry until I have the confidence to open carry but at this time i feel more secure and more enabled with concealed carry. I live near Ames and am very familiar with YSS and all they do, and I applaud your support of the work they do. We do make donations to them on a fairly regular basis. The information you provide on so many platforms and so often have greatly increased my confidence and knowledge in knowing I'm not the only armed citizen out there. That was the largest hurtle and I know one day I will open carry if I feel comfortable enough and it seems appropriate, but at this time I would rather continue concealed and not draw attention to myself at this time. Thank you again for your time, your efforts, your instructions and your delivery of them making it very easy to understand.
Keep up the great work and know we are watching, although we may not comment! Also, a huge shout out to Mrs Hegshot!!!
My answer: It depends. For me personally, if I am in an urban area, concealed all day long. If I am out in the sticks for an extended period of time, where 4 legged threats are more likely, open carry all day long (though I always have a back-up concealed if I am open carrying).
if I'm carrying I'm also carrying a backup ...
@@tommyg2966 Solid method
I just got my 4th CWP in the great state of Florida. 21 years of CC , headed to 28 years. It has become a lifestyle to the extent that without it, regardless of where I am going. I feel uncomfortable in public without it. And at home, my weapon is always within arms length. I have a rotation of weapons that I carry, all OWB at 3 o'clock, a combination of 9mm and 45acp. But when going into the woods camping or hiking, I carry a 10mm. To my knowledge, no one has ever seen it, I have never had to brandish it and never had to use it in defense.
I live in an open carry state. While there are pros and cons to both, I primarily open carried before i got my permit, it's a far better option than nothing at all. I have had a few interactions doing so, they were all from a positive standpoint.
Virginia? That was my situation. I didn't want a permission slip for years, and Virginia has permitless open carry.
@@chrissmith-rv5ro Don't need permission to concealed carry either. In the Bruen ruling, the Supreme Court ruled that concealed carry is every bit a Right as open carry and it requires no permission or approval. (not that we needed the supreme courts permission). In a nation of Cowards though, people are still getting permits... than (as cowards do) they point fingers as if someone else is responsible for the tyranny that they create for themselves.
@@deucedeuce1572 I don't have one, I'm serious. I've been carrying since 09, no permit. I got pulled over maybe 4 years ago one night. They told me to step out, I said ok I'm open carrying though. They (Fairfax county Police department) said ok. Long story short, they told me that unless there's RAS, or you're the subject of a call, as long as you have a clean record it's almost impossible to charge you with concealed carry without a permit. Especially in a permitless open carry state, where the government would have to prove your shirt or jacket didn't inadvertently, temporarily concealed your weapon. Basically, they have criminal intent. Almost impossible without another crime or suspicion of one as a predicate.
Action is always faster than reaction. It’s a scientific fact. Attackers then, in theory, will usually have the advantage if you’re just trying to “out draw” them. Therefore, you’ll want to turn the advantage around to make THEM reactionary to YOUR action. This is a potential that concealed carry allows very well.
I agree with everything you said. I open carry most of the time for comfort. I feel that it could be a viable deterrent to crime. Like you said, criminals are prone to the path of least resistance. I also understand that it makes me a target to the deranged individual but that’s where my wife comes in. She is very proficient with firearms and we always have each other’s back.
Either way open or concealed, the gun shirt, gun hat, gun tattoos, gun stickers etc. is what I see before anything. Attire matters. if your really not wanting to draw attention ditch the “I’m a soldier” look and try to blend in. Looking tuff doesn’t always work. Being just another potential victim until it’s time to defend is what seems to be the best. That being said, open carry also works fine too. When in Rome…
You definitely hit the nail on the head. I feel exactly the same way. There are certain times and places that are appropriate for open and concealed.
I conceal carry with the same set~up as you, from your inspiration I carry S&W M&P Shield Plus 9 inside a Tulster OWB on a Kore Essentials Belt. Some times I open carry at gas station and such after dark as I stand back and evaluate the situation.
Love the outro song. I live in very rural VA. I carry 100% of the time I leave the house. The only place I don't carry is where it's prohibited BY LAW. I'm even armed at the house about 75% of the time. Half the time I open carry & half the time I conceal carry. I'm under the belief if more people saw open carry, they would become more comfortable seeing people armed. The liberal-left has forced me to feel, if you're offended by my firearm, I really don't care. I've also had several conversations get started about firearms and protecting life. Who knows if someone's on the fence about getting a firearm, maybe what I can explain to them will convince them to purchase their first one. On the other hand, if I go into unknown territory, cities, or very crowded areas I definitely conceal carry. It goes to the target/theft idea. I also conceal carry inside many businesses such as banks or movie theaters, anywhere you might consider it, maybe a, "semi sensitive area." I guess all-in-all, taking a thought from the left, it all depends on how I "feel." LOL. I guess call me, carry fluid? 🤭
If you open carry (which I do 90%of the time) always use a quality retention holster. I highly recommend Safariland ALS holsters. And do not use the paddle attachment to carry your Safariland holster. Always use the belt loop attachment.
With my G19 Gen 3 I found Urban carry inner waistband accessible and comfortable. Stay safe, stay alert, stay alive, and stay armed.
I conceal carry my 9mm’s and 380’s around town, but open carry my 10mm g40 and 44 S&W 629 outdoors. I do get the occasional looks from hikers or bicyclists, but believe me they will be hoping someone like me is around if they are ever attacked by a cougar or bear. 😅
Depends on what I’m wearing. If I’m wearing my cattleman gear (boots, hat, shirt tucked, jeans) I’ll open carry. If I’m in my work clothes, or just regular “going to the grocery store” clothes, it’s concealed.
The problem of having your gun taken from you while you're open carrying can be mitigated with a proper holster that has a retaining device.
Also, how many crimes have been prevented from even happening because the would-be criminal saw you with a gun, and decided to go somewhere else.
The whole bit about criminals following the path of least resistance really didn’t make sense as a CC pro.
Actually, because criminal aggression did not occur, no one (except the criminal) knows if the open carry was a deterrent. So, not a reasonable argument. It might be true, but it can't be proven.
@@gregdamario5808 Just because we can't conduct an exit interview with criminals, or would-be criminals, as to why they did, or did not, commit a crime, doesn't mean the argument is unreasonable. The CDC concluded that roughly 50 million (on the low end) lives are saved per year by defensive use of a firearms. And of those 50 million, the overwhelming majority had no shots fired. With no shots fired, that means the mere presence of the gun was able to deter the criminal, or would-be criminal.
Just got my first pistol in NC a couple weeks after moving out, gonna have to open carry for the next couple weeks until im legal to take my CC class.
If you carry God bless.
That said, open makes you a target
I carry both ways, depending on what I’m wearing, and what gun I want to carry that day.
I recently got my gun. Like many in Israel, I did my mandatory service in the army, and combined with where I live, I was able to get a carry license.
There is a very different understanding here of people who have guns on them, especially after October 7th. You go to a mall, and see fathers with kids and wives walking around and carrying M4s like it's nothing. Of course they are either mobilized or issued these as part of their jobs (many many work for homeland security in many capacities). I am at this point more concerned with my inexperience, as I haven't touched a gun in the last 15 years, and never have I had a pistol. I guess I am most concerned with practicing drawing and dry-firing as in the army that was a big problem when not in the range, which even then I barely shot 50 rounds throughout my service.
Practice is the only solution. I buy ammo and reload both. A rifle and pistol while similar are very different to shoot. It's harder to hit with a pistol than a rifle for me.if ya can't swing in financially, look at reloading or maybe a cheaper round to run. I mostly shoot 22lr and work in some rounds on my carry gun. It's cheaper that way. I also reload the more costly rounds for my rifle and lower demand pistol.
@@blueovalfan23 Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I won't have access to reloading equipment, much less the materials needed as those are strictly regulated. I also can only shoot my pistol with only 9mm ammunition. I will however take your advice to heart and practice however much I can. I'm not going out much anyway, might as well use that as an excuse.
I live in the foothills of the North Carolina mountains and while I have a concealed carry license but I most often find myself carrying open just for ease around my property and on my four wheeler or tractor it’s definitely more comfortable. Another common scenario I find myself in is that I start out the day concealing my handgun with a hoody or flannel shirt but my firearm still on my belt because it’s chilly in the morning but as it gets warmer throughout the day and I shed my layers I become an open carrier and it does attract a few looks but it’s not uncommon to my immediate area for people to open carry and most people who live here keep a rifle of some sort in their vehicle throughout the day as well for a multitude of different reasons.
We just got LB77 passed here in NE for permitless conceal carry, just know I’m always gonna be conceal carrying my m&p 5.7 after Sept 10th 😎
I am not a criminal who conceals his firearm. I'd rather show I'm a hard target than looking like a soft one. How many gun stores or shooting ranges get targeted by criminals vs the local gas station?
Only criminals conceal their firearms lol? Ok I guess
@@Hegshot87 How many times do you see criminals open carrying? Why hide your firearm like the criminal does?
@@LGB-FJB idc what they do I care what I do and the element of surprise is the strongest element of concealed carry.
@@Hegshot87 I seriously hope you are never in a shooting, and hope if you are they do not find your internet history. You really should talk to a lawyer about making statements online.
@@Hegshot87 Do criminals mark an area and say you will be attacked here, or are you surprised at being attacked? No one expects to be attacked and get surprised wen they are. How you respond to an attack, whether the criminal let's you love, causes great bodily harm, or murders you, is always the surprise. You will always be defensive because the element of surprise is always an offensive tactic.
Hi Hegshot, great video. There are, as you know, different reasons for open or concealed carry. One issue that seems to be rarely addressed is the reason for open carry. Is it actually to gain access to the firearm more quickly when needed, or as we in law enforcement would sometimes refer to as the: " Look at me i have a gun" mindset. It is my opinion that this mentality is far greater than many open carry people perhaps wiah to admit. This type of person for whatever reason, may believe they are ready for any situation, and even hope to have a reason to "take charge" in certain situation(s) where actually they don't have the ability or training to do so. Again, i am not referring to those who open carry with the right intentions, continually training and always remembering that "deadly force" should be the last option that can never be reversed. Stay safe.
wish to admit
One other point i failed to mention is the value of gun retention . In those scenarios, there are those who have the ability to remove a firearm, even with security holsters. In our police academy, we learned that those incarcerated particularly in state prisons, practice disarming technques on a regular basis. Then when released, that training is taken back and taught on the street, to disarm police officers. It doesn't matter what level or security system of the holster, that problem will always exist. This is is why situational awareness is so critical and don't just rely on a holster. Stay safe.
As someone who prefers CC, I like your point, but I will offer a slight counterpoint on the “culture” aspect of CC vs OC. I definitely see the “hero complex” in gun culture from OC but I’m not sure you can’t reach that conclusion from many CCers logic as well, and I’ll explain what I mean. I totally buy the tactical advantage of CC if shit does hit the fan, it’s why I prefer it, but I do get the sense that many bring this up but overlook the possible preventative advantage of OC. IMO, some CCers give the sense that they’d rather have a tactical advantage in a defensive incident than prevent it totally. Now on both sides, these numbers are small and I truly believe that most who carry are a force for good, but I think the “I want to conceal so I can surprise the criminal instead of possibly deterring him,” can come from the wrong place in the same way as the “I want to be the big tough guy with the gun” mentality.
Funnily enough, the example in the video of having a yard sign announcing the presence of security at the house was used to defend CC, but I think it’s actually a better argument for the deterrence that open carry might offer. Ultimately it’s situational and I commend anyone who chooses to carry responsibly
Open carry makes you the priority target , I worked overseas for 16 years, even there our sidearms were concealed especially on foot patrols in such garden spots like Kabul, Afghanistan.
Carrying isn’t supposed to be comfortable, it’s supposed to be comforting.
It can be both though. The right holster, belt and esp gun can make a huge difference... and carrying a P365 or esp a LCP is easier and more likely to happen for most people than carrying a full size handgun. I don't even criticize people who carry NAA 22lr or 22mag revolvers... because it's very likely they take it with them every single time they leave the house.
Who says it isn't supposed to be comfortable?
not all states allow open carry forget the confort
Lmao. You gun nuts make up crap as you go. Why isn’t it supposed to be comfortable? It’s easy to find a great holster and gun that’ll be comfortable.
So much of this depends on the state/area you live in. Here in CA, open carry is illegal, but even concealed carry needs to be done properly because most people here are ignorant when it comes to guns. If they get even a peak at your carry gun, there's a good chance they'll freak out and call the cops.
In the 1960s my grandpa carried a shotgun with him while driving around LA, which was where he grew up. So did his dad, so you need to change California back to where it's normal to open carry again.
As a former Public safety officer, my choice is conceal carry. In my opinion no one needs to know that I’m carrying a weapon on myself. It will give me an advantage in any scenario.
Conversely, if you're somewhere everyone is carrying anyway, you're not giving away diddly... context matters though.
@@microcolonel again my decision of not letting no one know I’m carrying is personal. Everyone has the right to do what they consider is appropriate for themselves. I respect everyone decisions, have no issues with that but I stick with mine. We all have the same right.
don’t you think?
@@Specialkingoftheroad2023 not sure what you're on about, nobody even broached the subject of your rights.
@@microcolonel not meant to harm brother just saying that everyone have the right to chose what they want to do and I respect that so I chose not to show that was it. I’m not sure why you have to bring that out. But thank you for your input.
@@Specialkingoftheroad2023 are you a robot? What are you even responding to?
Open carry (especially with a drop-leg) is better IF we lived in a world where 2A was held as an indisputable inalienable right. Drop-leg is unarguable best for while in your vehicle (where 30 to 50% of your risk is). Living in our current 'woke - Karen' world, obviously concealed is better.
Just found the channel, liking the videos so far.
I carry a full size 9mm (Sar9) at 3 o'clock, on the homestead, or in my local rural community I carry outside the waistband often open. Whenever I go into the cities, I run inside the waistband.
The major benefit with open carry is that the gun is easily accessible.
The major flaw with open carry is that the gun is easily accessible.
All the gun grabs, outside police, have been people CCing poorly. Like sticking a gun in a back pocket, or wearing a tshirt over a in the back carry. Most people who OC are very conscious of how they carry, there are so very few incidents of gun grabs, much less than incidents with CCers. The Fl Walmart incident in the doorway was a CCer, the Walmart bathroom incident was a CCer, the back pocket grab on video in the convenience store was a CCer. No matter how a person carries they should use common sense, but for some reason that permit erases it on some people. Much like people who talk about surprising bad guys, when if prosecuted that WILL be used against them in court.
I agree with your take on concealed carry.
Let me add another perspective:
In today’s Karen world; open carry will inevitably draw attention from SOMEONE who doesn’t think anyone but police should be carrying a firearm.
Kinda like, during deer season when someone has a deer plainly visible in the back of their truck, and some animal rights activist goes nuts, when all you really had to do, was throw a tarp, or a couple’a bags of ice on top.
Just unnecessary attention
The places where it's illegal to carry don't bother me as much as the places where it's legal but the owner or whoever just don't want you to. I open carry the S&W 686 Plus .357 with a 5-inch barrel.
Great content. That was well said. I agree with your opinion 💯. Keep it up man!
In my town in Idaho a lot just open carry. But if I were to go to Boise and the bigger city towns in Idaho then concealed carry is better. But even those places a lot of open carry is happening
The way people dress usually gives away people that conceal carry. Most of my friends are bearded, tattooed, American flag shirt/cap wearing individuals. IMO it's a dead giveaway they are carrying.
cross draw shoulder holster is best of both worlds
I have a trip planned to an open carry state that does not recognize my home state permit. I have carried concealed for 30 years and am a little freaked out about open carry. The city where we are staying has bears and cougars that sometimes roam the streets. I will bring a gun but I am not sure if I will OC.
I conceal carry and always have, easier on the eye in public and I carry one at work also. As for the gun I carry a M&P 380 EZ 2. I feel having it hidden does not make me as much of a target and there is the surprise when it is needed.
I too open carry. But that is mostly because I bought a full size gun. I’m a big guy and small guns are difficult for me to control. So I opted for a full-size gun. I do my best to properly holster it, and cover it. I usually wear a hoodie or an open button shirt to help hide it. But I find this way of carrying to be the most comfortable for me.
Your cc draw was AWESOME!!!! You help me with the family my motivAting practice!
Another plus of concealed carry is those spare mags can support your beer belly. Really convenient! 😊
I carry OWB with my Tulster Contour holster (got it after watching your video on it). I wear a button down shirt or something to cover it. So thanks for the great recommendation. Combined with my Nexbelt, it's the most comfy combo that I've found. Carry a shield plus btw.
I'm an open carry guy, it's what is best for me. But I live in a free state and it's never been an issue. But CC is cool too for others of they choose
I open carry because I have a right to keep and bare arms. Don't want to ask permission. I think it's an infringement. I carry a 1911 45 commander in a flap holster. Most folks don't notice or care.
I personally do not agree with ever getting a CC, so I just use common sense for particular situations. If I'm in a group, I'll carry openly if I carry. Or if I'm alone getting gas late at night.
But if I'm on a walk, or alone-ish in a crowded space like at a festival or outdoors concert.... I'll conceal it.
I do have hip holsters, but I also have holsting garter belts for my dresses/skirts. I prefer a garter because they quickly adjust and can be slid down to be within open carry law if the situation changes.
I’d to hear people’s thoughts on open vs concealed carry when you might expect a little trouble. I work in property management and often deal with: evictions, really bad neighborhoods, people that already pissed off before I arrive, and clearing buildings that appear to be broken into. It’s not everyday buts it’s more often than you think. I often do not bring my weapon because I don’t want want to have to make that hard decision. I’ve become quite skilled at de-escalation and or intimidation and when to use either
I personally use an owb holster and conceal it it’s more comfortable and I can still conceal my firearm.
I personally conceal carry all the time and everywhere I go ( that i can legally carry). I see where open carry can be a good idea and for those that do cool I just prefer concealed Carry.
Element of surprise is everything!!!!
So is dropping the soap in the prison shower if convicted based on past statements. Talking of surprising people in reference to shootings implies intent. Now if you want to correct that to being prepared it might not sound so bad to a jury. Let's be very clear, your chances of being prosecuted, depending on state, are high even if it is just 1%, it is not worth it. Sometimes it is best just not to say stuff that may come back to bite you in the arse.
I honestly think everyone should open carry a big pistol, and conceal a backup.
Guess there are pros and cons to both…what’s comfortable with the gun you have. Wardrobe matters too. I don’t tend to wear my pants lose enough for an inside the waste holster, and with the Glock….tend to wear outside the waste holster. Harder to conceal…..so somewhere in between is where I’m at. And it’s OK.
The one point you almost made but ended up making the contrary was the path of least resistance. We all know firearms PREVENT significantly more crimes than times they are even drawn in an emergency. If a criminal sees your house has the security cameras but the neighbor doesn’t, he’s going to that house with no cameras, like you said. The point contrary to what you said is that in a concealed carry situation, the criminal doesn’t see the “cameras”. To some degree you’re almost making yourself more of a target if someone were to think you were an easy target and therefore attempt to harm you. If they could see your firearm, the chances of them simply not engaging are significantly higher than them attempting to target you first. You end up with 4 tiers of potential engagement.
1 - criminal wants no conflict and thinks there will be no conflict therefore targeting you
2 - criminal wants no conflict and sees your firearm, preventing any conflict from arising.
3 - criminal doesn’t care and targets the easiest target
4 - criminal doesn’t care and targets the biggest threat first
Either way you would be a potential target, it just depends on the type of criminal and how much they care about engaging. I’d say statistically, the vast majority would simply not engage, keeping you and everyone around you out of potential harm from engagement. Now consider EVERYONE open carrying. That would be a clear sign to any criminal to stay clear, even if they didn’t care about targeting the biggest threat. That turns EVERYONE into their biggest threat.
To me it sounds like the only downsides to open carry is the element of surprise, which is only useful AFTER the criminal has engaged (and very well might not have engaged had you been open carrying), the ability for someone to grab your firearm, or for now simply societal comfort levels.
Concealed carry seems to have more downsides, aside from the points I made above.
I totally agree with you. Concealed carry is way more of a liability than OC because in order for the criminal to see your weapon you have to brandish it, OC will save way more lives than CC just think about it. 👍🏾👍🏻🇺🇲
I prefer concealed but I like having open carriers around.
When I grew up in Rich. VA. For a while, the law was open carry. As long as you did NOT hide it, you could carry it.
I'm lucky that I train regularly and I'm fast from appendix draw. Consistency is key also. A different gun, different holster can change muscle memory and habits. Practice your draw from the comfort of home you don't have to put rounds out to get a bit faster and consistent. Y'all stay safe
Well, if I knew when and where I needed to protect myself, then I shouldn't always carry my self-defense weapon ... because I wouldn't go there then. But I don't know.. so, the weapon is hidden inside my waistband when I leave my apartment. (The primary goal is security, avoid or retire from a dangerous situation. Remember: run is also an option. Your pride is important, but your life is more important!)
Note: I am from the EU, here for civilians only the gas gun is allowed (i used load the magazine pepper and tear gas mixed loadout. Everyone has an eyes... :D ), only hidden, not a real firearm, and rarely. Even this is better than nothing, but it is also abslolulte worth nothing, if left at home...
The point is every self defense tool: practice, practice and practice ,that you can really use it when needed. (i hope: never...)
I actually LIKE when I see someone open carrying > BUT for me > almost always I conceal carry.
I prefer to not draw attention to myself & for a few other reasons.
I carry both ways. Just depends on the circumstances.
If I am out camping or in the wild, I open carry. One, it is nearly impossible to conceal carry a rifle. Two, an encounter with another human in the woods is NEVER a good sign. Also, if I come across a wild animal that wants to attack, having easy access to my weapon is a must. Bear spray is my first choice, but it can fail.
If I am in a populated area, I prefer conceal carry. Element of surprise is huge for me. Plus, I get tired of dealing with anti-gunners. I've had the police called on me multiple times when I open carry. Obviously I do as the officers command and they realize I am lawfully carrying, but it is a hassle and a waste of my time.
I carry a small gun otwb on my hip under a sweatshirt or loose fitting t shirt.
concealed carry! i'm a little guy, good physical condition, but the last thing i want is people knowing i carry. when i can't carry in certain locations, the weapon goes in the saddle bag. well a bolt broke on one of the bags, so i took them both off. i have an appointment coming up, can't carry. i am going to feel naked, vulnerable, it sucks. great video by the way.
In PA,you can open carry without a permit,but you can’t have a firearm in your vehicle without a permit,so how are you supposed to get from point A to point B?
If you insist on open carry, I suggest the 11 o'clock ( cross draw) you have more physical control than any other position, with both hands available. I have carried here over50 years. Old marine
Talking about the alarm sign I heard a experienced burglar say they look at those signs and if it doesn’t have the word electronic on it they know they can bypass it with out a problem
I don't open carry except when I am fishing on my own boat. Otherwise, I prefer to carry concealed. If you Do open carry, you should have some sort of retainage holster. At least a hammer strap or thumb break.
I'm a bigger guy, so I don't feel like I much have a choice in terms of carrying. I want to try, but the easiest way to carry for me seems like either open carry or under the shoulder concealed
I’m one of the “fluffy” guys😂, I’ve tried concealed IWB, works ok with the right holster but my preferred method is OWB with a higher ride on the holster. For me, easier access and conceals just as easily. Either way IWB or OWB ill be wearing a shirt to cover it up. I carry a Glock 19 with a Tlr7 and Holosun red dot. Conceals very well. Does the heel print when i bend over? Yes. But at least in can bend over a lot more comfortably. Also sitting in a vehicle is much more comfortable. But i also have a ready holster i transfer the gun to on longer road trips. Just my 2 cents and how it works for me. Be safe and keep carrying.😊