You are offside when you are in the opponents' half and any part of your head, body or legs is closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent. One of those two opponents is almost always the goalkeeper, so usually if either the ball or one outfield opponent is not between you and the goal line, you will be offside. You are not offside if you are level with the second-last opponent (or both opponents).
do you know why did Iniesta look over his shoulder to see if he was offside? because earlier in the tournament he had scored a winning goal against Portugal in offside and the assistant referee did not signal it, he was probably looking if they had been more mindful of it that time, of course this time he was onside and there was no problem BUT it's still a fact that they reached the final through a wrong decision by the assistant referee, although no one can tell if they would still win or lose the game
People that don't really know a lot about soccer but are curious about it ask me, after I explain to them offsides, what the thinking behind offsides is/why is the rule is in place. My thinking is that goals would happen more often but would be cheaply obtained (cherry picking), making the game less "beautiful"
Michael Brinker When the rule was first introduced, the players were all amateurs. Also the ball was a lot harder to handle than today, it basically being half a pig hand-stitched into a roughly spherical shape. So long passes more often than not ended up outfield. Which leads to an interruption of the game-flow. That might have been part of the reasoning behind it. Also, long balls are considered to be boring.
The reasoning is simple. The field is too big, if you had no ofside rule it'd be impossible to defend, teams would have players stationed inside the oposing box 24/7 and play with nothign but long passes. Without ofside there isn't a game. The rule did change tough, originaly you ahd to have 3 players ahead of you, in 1925 it changed to just 2.
Often it's a last-ditch attempt by defenders who were beaten, to get a lucky call. Too often, (especially in a single-ref game) it works and a totally onside play is blown down.
That goal in the finals of 2010 never should've happened though. Not because Iniesta was offside, because he wasn't, but the Netherlands should've gotten a corner before that. Spain scored from that goal kick.
Often the acronym PIG is used when deciding if the player in the offside position is causing an offence. P - Playing the ball I - Interfering with an opponent G - Gaining an advantage
You're kinda making this harder than how it is. The rule says that you're on an offside position if there're less than 2 players ahead of you (this inludes the keeper), and for lo, you never mentioned that there isn't an offside offence if those 2 players are field players instead of defender+keeper. Also, you never mentioned as what counts as being ahead: for example if your torso, head or feet are even a centimeter ahead, then you're on an offside position; but if your hands are completely ahead it's not called an offside because you can't play with your hands. And last, but not least, and offside is when you're ahead on the field, regarless of your position towards the goal area; so you could be on an offside if you're ahead of the penultimate player even if you're in a corner.
My two cents. Knowing what offside is, I think you should have started by explaining a typical offside situation right off the bat. Then, moving from that knowledge on, we can start seeing more atypical stuff (like being onside in your own half, despite being ahead of the ball), and exceptions. But hey, it's a hard one to get right, I guess.
@@PenandPaper I think it was during the first half of the video where you explained what a offside was or was not and that may have confused people. But those people are average idiots, I knew what an offside is and you didn't explain anything wrong.
Pen and paper try doing videos of others sport and not only football... I think you should do others things else or something interesting because.... I cannot believe you don't have up to a million subscribers ...but anyways. That is just what I wanted to say.. And I also just subscribed
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I hate this rule. I understand you want to prevent cherry picking but you have to make the other team play defense. They take advantage of this so often. Can you imagine if we called back touchdowns because the receiver got behind the DB? That's the entire point. If you can't run with a striker, that isn't their problem, its yours.
The offside rule doesn't stop you from running past a defender or getting behind them AFTER the ball is kicked. It just stops you hanging around behind the defenders for the entire game. Without the offside rule the attacking players would just pile right on top of the goal and every game would just be each team kicking the ball over the defenders to their forward players who are standing 2-3 feet away from the goal.This would eventually evolve to the defenders being unable to get outside of their own box without leaving the attackers completely unmarked a few feet away from their own goal. It is a good rule, before this you had the problem of 'goal hanging'. Where you would just stand around right next to the opposing teams goal. The offside trap is perfectly fine in my opinion where as you see it as the defense taking advantage. It takes near perfect co-ordination to move every defender forward right before the ball is kicked thus putting the attacking player in an offside position. When it works it is beautiful and it eliminates the attack before it can even begin, when it doesn't the defending team have pretty much given the attacking team an unchallenged run at the goal. High risk, high reward which only makes the game more entertaining. Imagine American football where you are not allowed to stop a player from walking to the end zone and just waiting around there for the entire game until someone kicked or threw the ball down to him. I am not an expert on American football, do you have a rule to stop that? Why can't a player just stand right at the end of the pitch and wait for someone to kick or throw the ball to him?
I'm with you, Phillytiger. Especially with single-ref games, the offside call is probably wrong half the time - cutting off wonderful offensive plays... or allowing blatantly illegal goals to count. An offshoot of full-field - 7-a-side soccer - has no offsides. It's a wonderful game, which I play and ref. Let's look at other sports: basketball has no offside; in fact, you're penalized for bringing the ball back into your defensive half. No one cherry picks under the basket, as they need to be back to defend when the other team has the ball. Hockey has the blue lines for offside - but once you're legally across the line, the players can be anywhere. They can be ahead of the puck and behind ALL the defenders: no problem. Hockey also opened up the two-line pass, which used to be offside. As well: in hockey, in some situations, they TELL you that you're offside, so you can get out of the area and try again. In soccer, it can often be a secret until you touch the ball and the flag goes up. What's wrong with an AR yelling "You're offside #15," so you can avoid getting involved in play until the next phase begins? Fewer whistles, better flow... Lacrosse has an interesting offside: "Midfielders can enter any area of the field, but attackmen, defensemen and goalies are confined to their area of the field. To prevent an offside, a team must have four players on each side of the field at all times." Field hockey is played on a soccer-sized pitch, with 11 players. It used to have offsides but hasn't since 1992. Why? to transfer the balance of power towards the offense, to create more space around the circle and mid-field, to help the flow of play, more goals and fewer whistles, and to make the game more exciting and appealing to spectators. I like the idea of fewer whistles and better flow of play - and I'm all for the abolishment of offsides in soccer. Hey: the Laws of soccer have changed a lot in the last 150 years. FootballHistory.org tells us: "Before 1863 “hacking”, kicking down an opponent, was a part of the game and a feature that marked was that seen as a masculinity objective. Thus, by 1863 a standardization has been reached, but it was still far from the modern game we are familiar with. Here are some rules that were applied: No crossbar was used and the goal was not specific to a limited height. If a player catch a high ball, he was rewarded a free kick. If the ball crossed the sideline, the player that first got the ball was rewarded the throw-in. Throw-ins was made with one hand (this was not praticed in Scottland though). If they can change from 'rewarding' a player for catching a high ball, to now giving him a yellow or red card for doing that... SURELY we can change to abolishing offsides.
Put your hands in the air like the ref doesn't care!!!
You are offside when you are in the opponents' half and any part of your head, body or legs is closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent.
One of those two opponents is almost always the goalkeeper, so usually if either the ball or one outfield opponent is not between you and the goal line, you will be offside. You are not offside if you are level with the second-last opponent (or both opponents).
do you know why did Iniesta look over his shoulder to see if he was offside? because earlier in the tournament he had scored a winning goal against Portugal in offside and the assistant referee did not signal it, he was probably looking if they had been more mindful of it that time, of course this time he was onside and there was no problem BUT it's still a fact that they reached the final through a wrong decision by the assistant referee, although no one can tell if they would still win or lose the game
Huge help!! Keep the videos coming
People that don't really know a lot about soccer but are curious about it ask me, after I explain to them offsides, what the thinking behind offsides is/why is the rule is in place. My thinking is that goals would happen more often but would be cheaply obtained (cherry picking), making the game less "beautiful"
Michael Brinker When the rule was first introduced, the players were all amateurs. Also the ball was a lot harder to handle than today, it basically being half a pig hand-stitched into a roughly spherical shape. So long passes more often than not ended up outfield. Which leads to an interruption of the game-flow. That might have been part of the reasoning behind it. Also, long balls are considered to be boring.
The reasoning is simple. The field is too big, if you had no ofside rule it'd be impossible to defend, teams would have players stationed inside the oposing box 24/7 and play with nothign but long passes. Without ofside there isn't a game.
The rule did change tough, originaly you ahd to have 3 players ahead of you, in 1925 it changed to just 2.
theyre appealing for the call duh
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I don't think I ever want to see that goal EVER AGAIN!! Very bad and painful memories 😭😭😭
Often it's a last-ditch attempt by defenders who were beaten, to get a lucky call. Too often, (especially in a single-ref game) it works and a totally onside play is blown down.
It's OFFSIDE, never OFFSIDES
You forgot to mention that if the opponent is giving you the ball, it's play on, even if you are in an offside position.
yeah, thanks for reminding me of my Nederlands loss in the World Cup. and how the offsides controversy made the loss even worse
WookbooK Ya bro, I don't think I will ever watch that goal ever again.
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That goal in the finals of 2010 never should've happened though. Not because Iniesta was offside, because he wasn't, but the Netherlands should've gotten a corner before that. Spain scored from that goal kick.
Often the acronym PIG is used when deciding if the player in the offside position is causing an offence.
P - Playing the ball
I - Interfering with an opponent
G - Gaining an advantage
GReat work
You're kinda making this harder than how it is.
The rule says that you're on an offside position if there're less than 2 players ahead of you (this inludes the keeper), and for lo, you never mentioned that there isn't an offside offence if those 2 players are field players instead of defender+keeper.
Also, you never mentioned as what counts as being ahead: for example if your torso, head or feet are even a centimeter ahead, then you're on an offside position; but if your hands are completely ahead it's not called an offside because you can't play with your hands.
And last, but not least, and offside is when you're ahead on the field, regarless of your position towards the goal area; so you could be on an offside if you're ahead of the penultimate player even if you're in a corner.
How is it the offensive players responsibility to make sure that a defender gets into position? That seems like a very stupid penalty.
Bruh you explained this soo complicated,
+Robin bummer man. I always aim for the simplest explanation possible. What do you think would have made it better? Thanks for watching.
Hey man, ignore this person, they just had a hard time understanding it. The video was perfectly fine.
actually I got confused too... and I know what an offside is
My two cents. Knowing what offside is, I think you should have started by explaining a typical offside situation right off the bat. Then, moving from that knowledge on, we can start seeing more atypical stuff (like being onside in your own half, despite being ahead of the ball), and exceptions. But hey, it's a hard one to get right, I guess.
@@PenandPaper I think it was during the first half of the video where you explained what a offside was or was not and that may have confused people. But those people are average idiots, I knew what an offside is and you didn't explain anything wrong.
2:29 Except they don't
If only you said football instead of soccer, you'd have more subscribers
Pen and paper try doing videos of others sport and not only football... I think you should do others things else or something interesting because.... I cannot believe you don't have up to a million subscribers ...but anyways. That is just what I wanted to say.. And I also just subscribed
Thanks Frederick,
I am going to keep this channel dedicated to soccer. I think people come here for soccer and I want to keep the focus narrow. Thanks for watching and for the sub. Tell your friends...and enemies!
I hate this rule. I understand you want to prevent cherry picking but you have to make the other team play defense. They take advantage of this so often. Can you imagine if we called back touchdowns because the receiver got behind the DB? That's the entire point. If you can't run with a striker, that isn't their problem, its yours.
The offside rule doesn't stop you from running past a defender or getting behind them AFTER the ball is kicked. It just stops you hanging around behind the defenders for the entire game. Without the offside rule the attacking players would just pile right on top of the goal and every game would just be each team kicking the ball over the defenders to their forward players who are standing 2-3 feet away from the goal.This would eventually evolve to the defenders being unable to get outside of their own box without leaving the attackers completely unmarked a few feet away from their own goal.
It is a good rule, before this you had the problem of 'goal hanging'. Where you would just stand around right next to the opposing teams goal. The offside trap is perfectly fine in my opinion where as you see it as the defense taking advantage. It takes near perfect co-ordination to move every defender forward right before the ball is kicked thus putting the attacking player in an offside position. When it works it is beautiful and it eliminates the attack before it can even begin, when it doesn't the defending team have pretty much given the attacking team an unchallenged run at the goal. High risk, high reward which only makes the game more entertaining.
Imagine American football where you are not allowed to stop a player from walking to the end zone and just waiting around there for the entire game until someone kicked or threw the ball down to him. I am not an expert on American football, do you have a rule to stop that? Why can't a player just stand right at the end of the pitch and wait for someone to kick or throw the ball to him?
I'm with you, Phillytiger. Especially with single-ref games, the offside call is probably wrong half the time - cutting off wonderful offensive plays... or allowing blatantly illegal goals to count.
An offshoot of full-field - 7-a-side soccer - has no offsides. It's a wonderful game, which I play and ref.
Let's look at other sports: basketball has no offside; in fact, you're penalized for bringing the ball back into your defensive half. No one cherry picks under the basket, as they need to be back to defend when the other team has the ball.
Hockey has the blue lines for offside - but once you're legally across the line, the players can be anywhere. They can be ahead of the puck and behind ALL the defenders: no problem. Hockey also opened up the two-line pass, which used to be offside. As well: in hockey, in some situations, they TELL you that you're offside, so you can get out of the area and try again. In soccer, it can often be a secret until you touch the ball and the flag goes up. What's wrong with an AR yelling "You're offside #15," so you can avoid getting involved in play until the next phase begins? Fewer whistles, better flow...
Lacrosse has an interesting offside: "Midfielders can enter any area of the field, but attackmen, defensemen and goalies are confined to their area of the field. To prevent an offside, a team must have four players on each side of the field at all times."
Field hockey is played on a soccer-sized pitch, with 11 players. It used to have offsides but hasn't since 1992.
Why?
to transfer the balance of power towards the offense,
to create more space around the circle and mid-field,
to help the flow of play, more goals and fewer whistles, and
to make the game more exciting and appealing to spectators.
I like the idea of fewer whistles and better flow of play - and I'm all for the abolishment of offsides in soccer. Hey: the Laws of soccer have changed a lot in the last 150 years. FootballHistory.org tells us: "Before 1863 “hacking”, kicking down an opponent, was a part of the game and a feature that marked was that seen as a masculinity objective.
Thus, by 1863 a standardization has been reached, but it was still far from the modern game we are familiar with. Here are some rules that were applied:
No crossbar was used and the goal was not specific to a limited height.
If a player catch a high ball, he was rewarded a free kick.
If the ball crossed the sideline, the player that first got the ball was rewarded the throw-in.
Throw-ins was made with one hand (this was not praticed in Scottland though).
If they can change from 'rewarding' a player for catching a high ball, to now giving him a yellow or red card for doing that... SURELY we can change to abolishing offsides.
Nyc
I am so confused. anyone else with me?
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incredibly confused explanation of something that is straightforward and intuitive... pretty bad job....
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