THE SHOCKING BENEFITS OF THE ELECTRIC COLLAR
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- THE SHOCKING BENEFITS OF THE ELECTRIC COLLAR
In this video, Ivan Balabanov discusses the many benefits of the electric collar during his morning walk with his belgian malinois dogs from the famous Ot Vitosha Malinois kennel.
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Absolutely correct! The world has gone mad…thank you for fighting for truth!!!
What a blast to see the top world trainer have his dogs just run free and exercise naturally. E-collar is a great thing and gives dogs as much freedom as possible not being attached by a rope to the owner and still be safe!
There’s no way those dogs could get that level of fulfillment if they were on long lines. Anyone should be able to see those are some very happy dogs and having a great time playing. The e collars are keeping them out of trouble and safe while allowing them an enormous level of freedom. Great video!
Yes they can get that level of fulfillment using long line but there's the associated and unnecessary danger of entanglement and chocking with long leads and collars on large acreage that e-collars eliminate. e-collars are more effective, safer and sensible than long leads. Although long leads are effective, mostly safe and are sensible, modern scientific technology has expanded the training effectiveness, safety, and sensibility and range of long lead training. It's correct that you say "e collars are keeping them out of trouble and safe while allowing them an enormous level of freedom."
@@cfogle100 I am in agreement with your statement on long lines being a danger in this situation. I personally would not use them in this situation either.
@@cfogle100 Spot on - risk of injury is so real. After having a dog with a permanent chest injury from a long line getting caught on a tree stump, and after me having a rather gnarly scar from the line accidentally tangling with my ankle on a dog fetching a ball... I moved to an e-collar and never looked back.
@@cfogle100I don't see how those dogs would have been able to get that level of freedom if they were on a long line. They wouldn't have the same amount of freedom. Care to elaborate?
@@cfogle100A dog that is completely free is different than a dog on a line. They have the ability to make choices good and bad. That’s why dogs are more relaxed off leash. Dogs on a leash do not have the ability to fight or flight. They can only fight.
100%.
Cannot agree more.
Of course I can't legally use ecollars in my state but I can see how they would have changed my dogs' lives, how it would have allowed me to take them hiking in the wild with complete safety, how it would have allowed my entire bitch to play with the other dogs safely etc etc etc. 😉
If you are reading this and you are anti-ecollar, please take a moment to consider; Ivan's dogs don't look suppressed, anxious, afraid of him. It can't be as bad as they say if these dogs are clearly having an absolute blast!
Which state has outlawed e collars as I love over seas and did not know this was happening in the states.
@@hawkeye98 not a state in the US. I am in Australia.
People who love dogs, often love wildlife - wildlife needs to be protected from pet and/or sport dogs. This video is a perfect example of the competent and fair use of an electric collar on very happy, high drive dogs to protect any wild animals they might decide to target whilst running free.
As the owner of a rescued Spanish galgo: THIS☝🏽
I started watching Ivan’s videos about a year ago. I have been training my 9 month old, female GSD for about 6 months. Ivan is always on target. I have purchased an “Educator” and needed direction on how to advance to E-Collar training. Lots of deer near my place. I am a novice, but am amazed how effective Ivan’s training techniques and methodology is. Ivan is the best I have seen in the business
I used an Educator to teach my GSD, who had a very strong pray drive for rabbits and squirrels, that it is not a wanted behavior. If she would run after a rabbit across a busy street, she could get killed or maimed and I do care about my dogs, so I used an e-collar to "discourage" the chase. I argue that "positive only woke" folks don't care about their dogs. Now I don't even put the e-collar on her anymore and a rabbit can cross 20ft in front of her and she won't go chase it. YET, I have a better relationship with her, than many "positive only" trained dogs I see in the park who don't give 2 sh*ts about their owners, run all over the place behaving like lunatics with other dogs, never listen to their recall and have to be leashed a mile before the owners get to the parking lot. I walk my dog in a heel position between running cars in traffic and she wouldn't leave my side no matter what. Her recall is impeccable and always happens on first call. No matter where I go or what is in her environment, she doesn't leave my side unless given the "free dog" command and at home I am her favorite pillow. So much for fearing me or having a bad relationship. Dogs are drawn to and respect a fair and loving but consequent leader. They seem to despise owners without rules AND the willingness to consequently enforce them. Go get a cat. I am a believer that a few moments of discomfort guarantee a lifetime of off-leash freedom and keeps them off the blue-juice table - try and take that from my dog and me.
Best comment! I concur!
My adopted dog, probably 7yrs old, I had for 1 year unable to let him do what he had always done...catch squirrels and rabbits or trying to attack coyotes. He caught rodents on 10 ft leash, even. He had been allowed to run wild until he returned exhausted, but had been lost more than once and had some kind of traffic incident where he had become terrified of vehicles. I helped him cure himself of the terror in one lesson by stopping his predictions through walking in star-pattern until he was mentally exhausted and he walked right onto on a very busy road sidewalk and his terror was over then. Still I could not trust him when he was in the woods because he would be gone until he decided to return. I used food reward and praise for easy recalls but that never would work not when a wild animal chase began. Then I heard one word that changed everything > "existential". Make it existential. So I withheld food one day and stopped feeding him at home. The next day he was noticeably changed on our first walk in the park and I let him go free with many fast recalls for a little food all through our walk. By the way, electric collar on, in case something went wrong. He had been accustomed to it and how to turn it off. Everything changed when food came only through listening to recall and electric collar if he did not respond due to prey drive. Now he can fly through the woods and he can be trusted to not disappear. One whole year and then a one-day breakthrough from feeding change and back up with ecollar. He has freedom back and it's my freedom back too. I hated having him only on leash because he's a super runner who can fly over or through the broken branches.
Could not do it without ecollar and him understanding that the feeding came through cooperation. Not about treats any more. A different dog, a happier dog resulted.
What what your correction level on the e collar? My dog is still testing me
@@lilpap974 First I taught him how to turn it off - by obedience to a commands that he knew well, at high enough level to bother him if he refused, and immediate turn off when he began to obey. I know that Ivan does not use that method, but I'm of low skill level.
When he was excited in prey drive and staring at a squirrel, I'd call him, give him a half second to show any response, then if ignored, full power for a split second. Full power on my $45 collar might be a lot less than full power on an expensive unit. I have nothing to compare to, except I sure wouldn't want it. Also, it depends on fur and sensitivity of dog and probably charge level of battery. You know it's not enough or not in good contact if he ignores it. When in a hunting mood with prey in sight it's different than when sitting at home. Naturally the dog must know the command very well or never use the collar like that.
It freed him and me and he's VISIBLY a happier dog to have a lot of autonomy outside in the woods running about like he wants to.
It was that or he would be doomed to boring walks and lack of real exercise and being tired out. Now that I've let him chase so long as he returned when called, he is testing the boundary, so I'm undecided on whether or not to let him continue to chase within my vicinity. Tired dog is good dog, so I am very tempted to keep allowing him limited chase range so long as he returns well when called. He's testing now though.
Very well said!!!
Great to see the dogs being dogs but you still have the ability to keep them safe and out of trouble should it be necessary ,especially in the uk the so called authority’s seem to just be waiting for an excuse to call a working breed dangerous or out of control and get it band or destroyed . Keep the educational videos coming 👍thank you Ivan.👊
i love nothing more than to watch my dog, or any dog RUN!!! IT's so fulfilling to me.. i also use the E-collar but only for free run supervision as you do. It is indeed a freedom. The e-collar is a language that must be learned to be effective and not harm ur dog.
Yes , we need more on this , as talking as someone from the uk , where the ban is currently on pause. We have an amazing organisation called ARDO run by Jamie penrith. You should pod cast with him.
Keep fighting the good fight, Ivan. We need professional trainers to speak up for us or we’re gonna end up like Europe. My 7 year old male GSD has gained his freedom back with the e collar after a board and train. I can take him in public, parks, etc whereas before I could not due to dog reactivity. He is happy and I hardly ever have to use it. I used to be anti e collar because of how I had witnessed a family member use it on their dog. But I am a big proponent after watching professionals use them correctly and fairly.
I'm in agreement with you totally, the e collar in my opinion is absolutely a great tool, in the right hands. The invisible leash I love it❤
I learned to use an electric collar a few years ago. I wasn’t against them I just didn’t know how to properly use one. I have found it to be very liberating for my young Belgian with high prey drive. A few days ago I took my two Belgians to the mountains. My oldest did not need an e collar but I did put one on my two year old. They both ran and had a blast just like in this video. There were quail and other wildlife that my puppa was interested in but did Not chase as he knows not to now. It was also a very simple and clear learning process for him. I appreciate Ivan posting this video to help clear up misconceptions surrounding the use of this tool.
I have a rescue female greyhound, staffi pitbull mix. Insane prey drive. Dog listens perfectly, except for when there's hare and rabbits around. I'm from the Netherlands so using ecollars are forbidden. So I am one of those people who is forced to long line etc... But let's say in a hypothetical situation I followed an awesome course in Belgium, where ecollars are legal. And let's say hypothetically speaking we went through this course together and because of this I can let my dog run free all the time. That's all hypothetical ofcourse and I wouldn't never disobey the law nor would I advice anyone to do this. If I would even own such a thing it would naturally only make sound or vibrate, because I walking on a long louse line makes my dog so much happier than running free. Right ;)
Great video, as always ❤
Great video. Perfectly illustration why e-collars are the best thing in the world for crazy, drive dogs - dogs that love to race around. The e-collar - used intelligently - allows those dogs to be free and race around without fear of being able to recall them and stop them from something that might cause harm. Great video. The e-collar lets dogs like this enjoy their lives. Never understood how walking a high drive dog on a leash gives much joy to the dog.
Thank you for the input! Cannot agree more
Totally agree with you. I like your common sense and the way you are open to conversations.
Thanks
So pleased I found your channel.
It's really gratifying seeing them used this way, because it's exactly what I use mine for. I don't have a lot of success using it as a training tool specifically (e.g. teaching commands using a shock), but it allows my malinois the freedom to run around and be herself without me having to be concerned that she'll indulge her prey drive on the wrong target.
Thank you Ivan! Reminding Americans that we have a choice.. that’s what America is about!!! Freedom to make an educated choice as to what’s best for each situation! E-collars are not right for everyone or every dog, but for many it gives the dog freedoms! My dogs (German Shepherd and Deutsch Drahthaar) love putting their ecollar on.. it means FUN and freedom.. leave that choice to handlers for each individual dog!!! Preserve our right for training tools!!! Thank you!!
I think force free methods are perfect for mental stimulation for you and your dog. It really challenges your ability to communicate and the engagement between you and your dog. I think, when conducted early and with perfect consistency, it reduces the need for aversives when the dog is older. However, I think every dog has unique needs that force free methods cant accommodate. Not every dog needs an aversive, but not every dog can be reliably trained with FF alone.
My dogs first trainer was force free (my local petsmart trainer) and she taught us so much. My dog loved her. Our second trainer was a balanced trainer. My dog also loved that trainer. Ultimately, if you can achieve a deeper bond with your pet and develop their respect for you, that is the most important thing. The problem with aversives is that too many people are not educated in the proper use of them and to many people don't want the professionals to educate on proper use. The reality is, if more trainers can educate on the proper use, then we would see less problems. Aversives are not abusive.
I would argue that force free methods are 'perfect' for mental stimulation. A lot of dogs get mentally stimulated by free shaping which most of the time causes frustration on the dog because they have to figure out how to get the reinforcement, they feel pressure and that pressure is turned off by them once they've solved the problem (negative reinforcement)
I live in Alaska and totally understand why you use the E collar. Especially in all of our wilderness and animals! Love the way you explain
Great video! To my dogs E Collars= Freedom. As soon as I pick them up they get zoomies in anticipation of an off-leash romp.
Wow beautiful dogs . Watching them run was breathtaking.
Great to see the freedom equates to trust that they have knowing that you will be by to take care of them and their exercise. If someone gets a dog 🐕 they need you to be willing to commit to giving time from you for training and exercise. These dogs feel safe and cared for ❤ .love to see them .Jennifer Stalmer
Thank you
One size does not fit all, like you say, some dogs benefit from it and some don’t. So why are so many of the force free community trying to say one size does fit all, in that force free works for every dog and every behaviour, it doesn’t! Dogs are individuals just like us.
Thank you for your awesome work 🙏
Ivan we would love to see a day in the life video like this. I am doing your certification soon. A video of the day in the life, some snippets of training, your routine, off lead walks.. would love to see how the best in the world does it on the daily😊
Excellent. Thank you.
Yep 👍
Ecollars are freedom-makers 🙏
It’s very important to *learn how* to use one from a good, experienced trainer.
What a dream property Ivan. You and the dogs deserve it bro🤝Thank you🤘🏼🐺
It’s a beautiful thing to give your dogs freedom!
E-collars etc are forbidden here in Germany but if they weren't I would use them. Dogs with real high prey drive would be forced to live a life on leash if approached with positive only. It worked with my Finnish Lapphund but je was just the easiest dog that got everything the first try and always did what I wanted. However it does not work with hard headed dogs. My white GSD is very dominant with low impulse control and strong headed. He gives me the middle finger if I use positive only. I can't use e-collars however I use aversives via leash correction and grab and hold or sometimes laying him on the side (not dominating him but it calms him down). It works great and he already doesn't chase deer etc unless it's jumping out the grass in front of him. If I was allowed to use an e-collar this would be no issue anymore either and he'd be completely free. And the e-collar would be way more humane than the leash correction and grabbing. The positive only movement causes more harm than it does good
Thanks for this video. I train Malinois and it’s amazing to me how many people never take the time to understand this tool that we use. It is by far the most humane way to train a dog.
I am one of those people who never took the opportunity to learn the benefits of an e-collar. From listening to Ivan’s podcasts my mind was changed. Couple this with my first very high energy dog with a terrible recall. And had to use an e-collar. I am now a believer in the benefits of an ecollar when used correctly
Well it’s not! And hundreds of trainers don’t use or need to.
@@xGHOSTHAWKxand hundreds of dogs DO NEED IT. Ivan said it, if there's an other way, just prove it. 😉
@@xGHOSTHAWKx I guess people like you and trainers like you think it’s much more humane to jerk a dog around by a flat collar or slip lead. I’ve seen more damage done to a dog by inexperienced people who think they know what they are doing with simple tools than I have ever seem with an E collar. At some point the stupidity has to stop. Ivan is a proven expert and a great trainer. You would be wise to follow his methods and see the improvement in your dogs
@@xGHOSTHAWKx hundreds of trainers who don’t use it also give up on dogs with prey drive and aggression! Their methods are not safe for the dog or their owners.
Shock collars are a must. I totally agree with you ,depending on the dog. Thanks
I have used e collars also. Never did it hurt my dogs. Like everyone says you have to know how to use them. They can prevent your dog in a lot of ways from getting hurt and hurting someone
🐾That was superb. Thank you. As a science gal, I spend a lot of time trying to dispel the lies and misinformation that created the ridiculously false narrative of FF versus Abuse, and this video will help a lot. I do have 2 questions for you. 1) Is the study published yet? I can’t wait to read it and be able to point to a LEGITIMATE scientific study to counter the garbage proof that is out there being touted by the strictly FF community. I’m very curious how you broke down the protocols for comparison, since that is such a difficult and important part in a study like this. 2) I support all communication tools, aversive or not, as long as used responsibly to communicate with animals and not just to punish. Unfortunately, we all know there’s easy access to them and it means they’re often used by people who haven’t a clue, and they actually do cause harm. I know it’s currently wishful thinking, but do you have any thoughts on how these tools (e-collars and prong collars in particular) could be offered in a way to anyone (meaning trainers and average dog owners) that would include some sort of mandatory education and instruction on their use? I’m mortified by the uneducated users who hurt dogs with them and give these tools a bad rap. Thanks again!
Love you, Ivan! We need MEN, like YOU. To make sense, to lead..please don’t ever give up.
I have just recently started my young Decker Hunting Terrier on the e collar. Note that I have been using one off and on for years. Diablo sees me coming with it, and lights up like a Christmas tree, because he knows he’s about to go for his morning run. In his case, I am more than happy for him to chase critters; he’s a terrier, and that’s sort of the point. However, I do need him to come when called, and I wouldn’t put it past him to chase a car…. Or a coyote, which might not end well. Anyway, if he comes when called, it’s party time, and he usually does. If not, I’ll use the collar. He had been very quick to learn this, and it’s rare for me to actually use it. I do wish Ivan would do a training video on how to properly introduce the collar, because I’ll bet the techniques have really advanced since ZI first started using one. I can’t tell you how much I have learned from listening and watching Ivan, even though protection sports are not my thing. I have always had hunting dogs and have two cadaver dogs currently as well as the terrier.
Thank you for sharing this.
Wonderful dogs
Ivan would you be open to a conversation with a trainer like Robert Hynes or Dale McCluskey? They dispute the validity of the 4 quadrants and that they even originated with Skinner. Seems like that might be a more interesting debate than this silly “force free” topic. Beautiful video!
Great video…I think you are spot on with your philosophy on dogs. There must be consequences for wrong behavior to shape behavior. Look at people these days. The consequences ar not significant enough to change bad behavior…
Love it! Just got a Dogtra 280C for Christmas. Can’t wait to start training with the collar the proper way 😉
Love that video. Love seeing those dogs being dogs and running free…. How do you know when a dog needs or does not need an e-collar? Or can you train your dog out of the ecollar? I just want to take my dogs with me everywhere but they are somewhat reactive toward other dogs and will chase…I’ve been working with them and making some improvements but not 100%
well let me see, just came back from a walk, opened garden gate and had leash yanked out my hand because a fox had just been through it, e-collar called him back, you'd never do p+ only with predation for him, its too strong :)
I'm a trainee scientist in environmental science which includes behaviour and predation. there is no way force free works with every dog or every predator, none whatsoever, consequences matter in shaping behaviour in every species, especially social species. I'm excited to read the study, especially in UK :)
Good video .
Great video! Off leash freedom is a great way to bond with your dog.
My first time watching you and I love your points! People don’t understand the freedom it gives dogs that need it. But let’s face it, many don’t do anything with their dogs and turn them into couch potatoes.
For me, bassiclly if a dog have a big prey drive, this is perfect. Dogs can get ruined without you knowing how to control it. Then you are in trouble and dog can get confused and miserable for life. Listen to this man, one of few who knows what he is talking about. Mr. Ivan, enjoy, we hope to see you in Europe in some big competition.
Love love my ecollar! My dogs get to move around safely instead of tethered to me. Our off leash hikes are the first thing we do every single morning
Interesting video. I have problems with this tool. I still have them. But I hear you. What I figured that my problems with electric collars is the remote is in human hands, and I have a basic problem with human nature in general. I love to see them run around, and I love how you said you didn't use the tool for ages because it was not needed. But hear me out. There are people out there who without realising, by nature misuse this tool. So I see the benefit of the tool. How do you handle these people? (Rhetorical question, don't mind me, I'm just here, learning about dogs. Please keep your doggos safe and happy. Cheers)
where can I find the study you did? I'm very interested. Love your work my dog lives his life with full freedom because of collar training we're currently fighting the ban here in England.
Beautiful Dogs. I use e-collars on my boys. They get to run everyday. It's pure freedom. Their recall is great, except for one that can't help it when he sees an elk. He's getting better though. Do you know any trainers in New Mexico. I'm not a trainer, but I do my best and the e collar helps my boys to get good exercise everyday and safely.
THANKS IVAN
Are you utilizing e collar just for call off of prey? Or are you utilizing it in combination with a command
Our family business is young 4 yrs old but we are helping people and it feels good. But online the FF community is already coming for us. Unfortunately it is worrisome because they can’t do damage to our business. Everyone taking our course loves us. We are getting people out of the house with their dogs and finally enjoying dog ownership. Any advice would be appreciated as we will not be silenced and definitely stand up for ourselves.
❤❤❤ the best as always
You are right, Europe is very restrictive - especially Western Europe. As I am from Bulgaria - I felt like I lost all my freedom to let my dogs roam and play off leash. e-collars if used correctly a great tool for off leash control and overall obedience.
Thanks Ivan!!!
Agree completely. Would love for you to have an e-collar training course for purchase.
Thank you Sir, you are my mentor. No one can teach the ‘OUT’ like you. Happy new year and God bless. Never listen to stupid pet people comments, they own cats…lol
I have a Malinois from you. I use an e-collar with her and it’s been great. I can get excellent recall from her without the collar, but I still use the collar just in case.
Thank you for providing this information. I have an 8 mo old mal with super high prey drive-I have known this is the direction I needed to go, but not confident with using the electric color. But, I will give it a go. I am hoping there is some more instructional training available-I understand it is timing. But, do I offer praise when she stops with the shock or just carry on with play?
I got some of the best training and behavioral advice while growing up in Germany, now I'm back in Germany 15 years later and they have lost their minds over here, I don't know what happened. It's frustrating and discouraging.
I agree
great video lovely to see your 2 Malinois
runnimg about freely ,how much energy do they have crikey.
i hate how they look so depressed and unhappy with there ecollars on 😊
i agree totally fantastic tool used in the right way ,i have been using ecollars for training not just my own dogs for clients dogs aswell and would not be without them .And as you said Ivan
do what you please with your dogs as long as you are looking after there best interest ,
and leave others alone to do the best for there dogs no one has the right to tell anyone else what to do with with there dogs even more so when people are totally uneducated in doing so.
i would love to see more videos like this Ivan and would be good for anyone
to see dogs in action with there ecollars on
Thank you.
Thank you Sir🙏
When you use the ecollar do you use mainly the vibrate or the pulse?? I have an ecollar that is not very high quality, the buzzing seems to work pretty well, but i'm afraid the pulse is a bit too strong. I would love some output on that
Absolutely correct, but it's also very anoying to argue again and again on this topic, im French, and i stil do this too, but maybe in a year or two, the law against the tools ( e-collars, prong, chains, sliplead...) is gonna be in place.
All the lies and false narative is just considered as "the only scientifique truth". Famous dog trainers in France claim it's a vitcory for the dog world....
It's almost impossible to talk about it with 99% of dog trainers, politicians.... sad times!
So please, America, never stop this fight and keep the light on, in many brains as possible;
Because trust me, the other way, is very dark.
(ps: sorry for my poor writing skills, english is not my tongue)
Thank you for explaining your reasoning. I have been put down for using a pinch collar to contain my high prey drive dog around squirrels
I use one too when walking with my highly reactive prey driven GSD
Hi Ivan, I'd be interesting in seeing you interview Emily Larlham (aka Kikopup). She has been able to train high prey drive dogs from chasing prey using force free methods. She has some videos discussing the situation with examples. I would include links to the video but I don't think UA-cam allows links
Amazing video, thank you for sharing. I would love to learn more about how you were able to stop the dogs choosing to chase wildlife. So my dog has a good recall, but she will not choose not to chase wildlife but needs to be recalled all the time, which makes a walk certainly not relaxing!
Its funny you said watch your legs, I was hit by my GSD running like that and had a huge instant blood clot on my lower leg, took weeks to heal, I was lucky it didn't break it my leg
From what age I can use e collar? What risk is to start from 5 month (GSD)
@Ivanbalabanov - I currently use low stim ecollar settings which I know you are against. I would love to learn your method of using high stim to train dogs. Will you be making an online course on ecollar that we can purchase? I have purchased the cornerstone collection course and make your dog somebody course which has helped me out a lot. Thank you!
I wanna see the inside of that van
Ok, I get this and I am not against e-collars, but at what point exactly would you use it, as I did not see you use them at all, or did I miss it?
You didn't miss anything. The collars would be used when they're needed in certain situations.
Unfortunately, there are even plenty of professional dog trainers abusing the tool. There's no shortage of UA-cam videos of flattened dogs stepping off place boards like they're navigating a mine field, or professional trainer's introducing duration/distance/distraction and having the owners give repeated high level ecollar punishments to their dog for the sin of being confused. What it lacks in terms of fair/humane training, it more than makes up for as a Milgram experiment.
There needs to be some kind of standard practices, and consequences for violating them. But even those who are using the tool properly won't even comment on those abusing it. If we cannot police our own, we too will lose access to this tool.
💯 agree!
I run my dog(German Shorthaired Pointer) for at least 60 minutes every day. I run her on an E-collar with a 3/4 mile range.
How do your dogs in this video react to the e-collar up close? Just curious
I don’t understand your question
My brother and his wife adopted their first family dog. They opted for a small miniature American eskimo. Gorgeous dogs they are stunning this dog is physical perfection looks like how a dog bred to a cloud bred back to an angel. Initially, the dog was very neurotic and fearful. I immediately was concerned and knew that the dog a terrible genetic temperament. Time passed and they finally caved and took him to training because he would incessantly bark at everybody in anything and was scared of his shadow. They gave train a great shot and I told them from the get-go get an e-collar and learn how to use it. They didn't want to do it. Finally, after he spent a lot of time going to training, my brother and his wife caved and purchased an e-collar. It has changed their lives. Had they not purchased that e-collar, I don't know what would have happened to that dog because he was so bad they would have to board him when family came over because he would incessantly bark non-stop running around and chasing people and barking and running away. I feel sorry for the dog to live with that much neurosis, but at least now he knows that there are boundaries and he must learn to contain his neurosis and can live happily with the family that has been raising him his whole life without bouncing from home to home
A little disappointed in the content of this video vs the title of it. And I do understand what you are talking about and showing in the video. I am not an opponent or proponent of the E collar tool. The disappointing part of the video to me was the dogs were completely disconnected to you, yes you could call them etc but I did not see any real connection to you from the dogs. A good demo would possibly show an encounter with wildlife and how the e collar is the only means to keep a high prey drive dog from being bitten by a rabid racoon. I believe the audience should see a more inspiring and compelling production.....maybe with all Ivan's accolades listed at the beginning or end of the video.
100% agree the proof is in pudding. I still have never seen or heard of a ff r+ trainer who can reliable let even one of their dogs off leash somewhere without having to use treats to bribe the dog and overly micro manage them every second.
I can understand the people who wants to ban E- collars, their intentions are to protect dogs from misinformed , untrained individuals who might purchase a very cheaply made device and who might use it for the wrong reasons, but instead of trying to completely ban this useful tool, the focus should be on stopping the sale of unregulated/non safe devices and to require certain amount of professional training to the user.
My Dutch Shepherd uses an e-collar when I take him outside.
It's for his safety and my safety since I don't use a leash to go on walks.
Clarity is key.
OK. Give me a great resource for on-line or book on the correct way to fit and train with e-collar. Step by step. Working line female GSD (8 months)-who is very biddable and will will be doing herding, Competition OB, scentwork and tracking (AKC). I may not need one but still would like to learn the correct way. I did use ecollar before (Dogtra2300CP) on previous males, but the training and technology may have have changed. I used one during OB and protection in IPO for one but the trainer I worked with had me do the collar conditioning but he operated the ecollar during sessions and not me so I didn't learn the nuances and applications. I did use it for my boys not to chase deer, fox, coyotes, etc-but very RARELY did I have to hit the button.
I live in a country where the e-collar is banned by law. Of course I only use my mini educator for the vibrate function... :)
Super looking forward to the study! Entirely unsurprised with the results lol But watch the Force Free trogolodytes conveniently ignore it
Ecollar dogs are happier than long line dogs.
You are a master great
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lol @ the title. I need to watch this with calm later
Totally agree!! It’s best when people get on their high horse shouting out about how cruel these tools are then you find out they are a one dog owner of a dachshund! I could outrun them! Most of these people don’t understand a high energy high drive dog. I’m from the UK. My dog would be stuck on a long line with probably a list of other issues from lack of exercise. She was going to either be shot by a farmer, get run over (which had already happened once) or get injured some other way her prey drive was insane. With the e collar I rarely use it now as she has learnt and she is living her best life running around and sniffing like she should be! I honestly don’t get peoples logic.
I have trained many dogs that have been on there last chance.But as Ivan says not all dogs need e collar training.
We need more videos like this on the regular from all dog professionals using the e.collar! Saturate the internet!
My dog loves his e collar. Even for humans, there are limitations to “freedom” there are consequences for us (advanced logical thinkers) who abuse freedom.
I have a Garmin collar .
Garmin has training videos.
Lucky dogs! Great tool when used right... as last resort at the correct setting. Most dog owners aren't fortunate enough to have the open spaces as you do nor access to wide open backcountry. So we use long lines when necessary and e-collars when appropriate. Sadly there aren't enough wide open spaces to accommodate all dogs. Dog parks are poor substitutes and highly problematic. Top trainers like you are extremely important to help set the bar for well balanced dogs and help make this a better world. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your leadership and wisdom.
the fact that your male dog never dropped the ball is so funny to me
I don’t understand. They are highly trained but don’t have a reliable recall?