@@FordZda the ZF 6HP boxes are geared quite long I know the later 8HPs do 155 in 7th with 8th being an extra gear, the high amount of torque helps the acceleration.
These old 2000’s top gear reviews are just straight up nostalgic. Love everything about it - the editing, the Music, the whole look to it. Brings back so many childhood memories
@@TheGravyMonsterI remember. Guessing I am old. I suspect, every so and so often a model generation has to have a controversial design. Hope just the beaver teeth go away again.
in all fairness though, the 535i would have been a fairer comparison… but it’s the old trio, so fun and ridiculousness is more important than sensibility… not complaining!
E60 535i wasn't sold in Europe; we had the 540i instead. Both models tested were pre-2005 engine refresh, so M54B22/B25/B30 & N62B44 petrol engines and M57TUD25/D30 diesel engines were the order of the day.
@@ivarmarkusson382In the US, yes. Europe got a 540i in the place of the 535i. Unless you're saying the Euro E60 540i came at the same time as the US 535i, which would make sense.
2:36 the first EVER in usage 2 videos at once one about an actuall thing and second funny distraction video for low attention span kids to keep watching the video
I have a theory that this was filmed in 2004 and is actually a leftover from series 5. Mainly because of the registration plates, weather and reference to the Mitsubishi EVO 8 400 (which appeared late in series 5) and Ferrari 360 (even though the 430 was in the previous episode)
I had a 635d about 10 years ago and it was a cracking engine. Took it drag racing at shakespear raceway and ran 13.2 secs standing 1/4 with a boot full of camping gear, fat lad in the seat and 30c outside.
Shouldn’t flat out floor a diesel car. Keep it between 1500-3500 rpm and you should have enough grunt in any gear to trouble the petrol equivalent while doing the double the mpg of a petrol.
If possible, can you upload a high quality version of the news segment involving the comically stupid map route that when from England to Ireland to France back to England?
@@legioner9 well, not even rich people around me have cars over 200hp while the sales smasher RAV4 and camey in the US have 225, which gives you idea that other places have way faster regular traffic
A diesel, if maintained and used properly, can last. Diesels are not made for urban use, especially when you add in the EGR and DPF systems, though removing these resolves the issue about 80% of the way (we disregard pollution here, we're talking strictly about reliability, though if there was a reliable solution to make a diesel clean and usable in the city, I'd gladly do it). A diesel comes into its own on long journeys under constant speed and high load. That's when it has enough energy and heat to remove all of the soot from its valves, injectors and wherever else soot likes to deposit down the exhaust.
the n57 or s or z are all reliable if the oil changes are done regularly on 8k km or thereabouts also changing the rods and oil pump it's pretty much all you gotta do, not talking abt EGR and DPF, those are a simple delete electronically and you're good to go (cause like wth, you get a clogged dpf and then have to go ahead and clean it by revving it and take out all that smoke in the air) other than these, it's as reliable as a merc w123 diesel
I have identical looking car except mines the far better 2008 lci and I love it wanted one for a long time hard to get in mint nick and low miles high spec but after 2 yrs looking at bad ones I got one !
@@kylemooney3415 for now its very good, i Got it for 2 years and for the most part just doing normal maintenance, Oil, filters, swirl flaps remove, and dpf remove and its running like hell no problems so far, most important its previous owner, you buy good one and take care of it and you will be very happy :)
@@andytyrrell3232 it's a V8 not a 1.2, of course it would do something! Tuning on big NA engines produces results, certainly enough to comfortably see the canal boat off.
Clarkson, the undisputed king of the FAKE videos and reviews. Nobody said about TYRES of each car, not to mention the RAIN makes as the most toque to become lack of grip at all. More than that, on stright lines is OBVIOUSLY for any human which use any bit of intelligence that car with MORE POWER will accelerate faster, but NOT the car with more TORQUE. That v8 was specially choosen as having A LOT more power and slightly even LIGHTER. TG= FT.
If the Stig had been driving the diesel, the diesel would’ve won, despite the comparison petrol car being so loaded in the petrol car’s favour. The newer Diesel engines would rinse that petrol version.
I live in the U.S and have the 335d diesel. It’s a great car. We also got the newer 535d with the n57 diesel, and the 328d with the n47, plus a couple suv. Definitely not nearly as many as Europe obviously which sucks.
Completely unfair comparison. Not only should it have been a 530i but also 2 drivers of similar ability. Stig would've won in the 535d if he'd been in that.
If I was still at my old job (i used to fo 35 miles each way), one of these would be perfect. However, I now work around a mile and a half away from home, so diesel’s no good.
Clarkson talking about the turbos "big one and the small one" and later "can you imagine going on a dinner with the man who came up with this. I see what you did there Clarkson
Well both of my cars, a 2004 Chrysler Grand Voyager and a 2009 Chrysler Sebring are diesels and I am more than happy with their performance. The engines really developed pretty well
@@applejuice5272exactly, when will people ever understand that 0x/1x/2x registrations are March to August and 5x/6x/7x registrations are September to February...
It's Series 6 Episode 10 (aired 31 July 2005), so 05 reg was current by then, but it's quite possible that this review was filmed before March 2005, hence the 54 reg.
2003-2005 530i [231] was similar to 530d [218]. 2004-2007 535d put out 272 PS / 560 Nm which only rivalled the non-existent N62B36 V8-powered 535i (272 PS / 360 Nm). Another way of looking at it is the 545i and 535d were flagship petrol and diesel models at the time.
Fun fact: Diesel engines have lower rpm limits right? Petrol has more rpm. More rpm equals faster pistons. And the petrol brother didn’t win bc the engine was bigger (wich was kinda true) it won bc it more rpm. Thank you for your time.
2:34 Top Gear did this before the average Tiktoker was even born
They were such visionaries.
If they only knew what 535D could do with only a laptop and OBD cable...
Outgoing G30 30d had more power and torque than this early E60 35d (286hp & 650Nm over 272hp and 560Nm) love these 6 cylinder diesel BMWs
Canal boat.
How did it top out at 155mph and do 0-60 in 6 sec with such little RPM? impressive gearing by BMW
@@FordZda the ZF 6HP boxes are geared quite long I know the later 8HPs do 155 in 7th with 8th being an extra gear, the high amount of torque helps the acceleration.
@@FordZda2.28 diff does the job
The E60 with M sport package is such a pleasant car to look at
.. and base E60 without M pack is such an ugly machine. The difference is like day & night. Incredible.
@@tansu_tuntas absolutely
Michaels stepdad would trade his son for a base e60
Yeah just bought one - e60 530d m sport lci 2009 , got rid of a focus st/rs for it, absolutely love it and was less than half the price the focus was
It’s stunning with M package, literally
These old 2000’s top gear reviews are just straight up nostalgic. Love everything about it - the editing, the Music, the whole look to it. Brings back so many childhood memories
And the always wet track
You're doing gods work mate
Jeremy invented those subway surfers videos haha
😂
my first thought when I saw it 😂
Top Gear was always 10 years ahead of its time
Still looks good all these years later
Doesn't look bad, but very dated
😄That's because it is still new on the video
Remember when the 'Bangle' designs were absolutely maligned? Look at the dismal state of all modern BMWs now...
@@TheGravyMonsterI remember. Guessing I am old. I suspect, every so and so often a model generation has to have a controversial design. Hope just the beaver teeth go away again.
@@PierreColombo900how is it dated?
in all fairness though, the 535i would have been a fairer comparison…
but it’s the old trio, so fun and ridiculousness is more important than sensibility… not complaining!
E60 535i wasn't sold in Europe; we had the 540i instead. Both models tested were pre-2005 engine refresh, so M54B22/B25/B30 & N62B44 petrol engines and M57TUD25/D30 diesel engines were the order of the day.
@@applejuice5272 mo 540 in those days, 530 and 545 where the big ones.
@@ivarmarkusson382In the US, yes. Europe got a 540i in the place of the 535i. Unless you're saying the Euro E60 540i came at the same time as the US 535i, which would make sense.
Oh my god, top gear did the tiktok split screen thing over a decade before tiktok
Downpipe and a remap for little money would get that v8 in trouble
Shame BMW didn't stick their M67D44 4.4-litre V8 diesel in the E60 and create a 545d; 330 PS / 750 Nm would have been fun!
@@applejuice5272 that one would actually battle the m5, with some simple mods
Yeppp spot on mate!!
Downpipe and a remap for little money would get that canal boat in trouble...
@@albinbunjaku9314Looking at the current gen M340i and M3 you can see why BMW doesn’t want to set their m sport cars so close to the M cars
2:30 they already knew the attention span was gonna shrink
2:36 the first EVER in usage 2 videos at once one about an actuall thing and second funny distraction video for low attention span kids to keep watching the video
I was actually looking at the fluffy kittens while listening about the 2 turbos
I have a theory that this was filmed in 2004 and is actually a leftover from series 5. Mainly because of the registration plates, weather and reference to the Mitsubishi EVO 8 400 (which appeared late in series 5) and Ferrari 360 (even though the 430 was in the previous episode)
Another reason is that when Jeremy reviews the M5 an episode before this , he said that sound like a diesel upon startup
I love BMW's and the 5 Series and the 535d is one of my favourite cars ever from the BMW 5 Series lineup!!!
I had a 635d about 10 years ago and it was a cracking engine. Took it drag racing at shakespear raceway and ran 13.2 secs standing 1/4 with a boot full of camping gear, fat lad in the seat and 30c outside.
Of course the petrol BMW was going to be faster with a 4.4 V8 under the bonnet
until 535d gets a remap 😀
@@SoloDolo when 416 torques actually works
@@SoloDolo until V8 gets remap
@@Lupuzi until the diesel got a big single turbo with a lots of psi
Also in M-sport spec so LSD, better rubber, slightly lower, aero bumper extenders and all the rest.
E60s have aged beautifully, timeless design
Shouldn’t flat out floor a diesel car. Keep it between 1500-3500 rpm and you should have enough grunt in any gear to trouble the petrol equivalent while doing the double the mpg of a petrol.
If possible, can you upload a high quality version of the news segment involving the comically stupid map route that when from England to Ireland to France back to England?
a 535d like this in Spain is still a VERY fast car over the rest of the traffic, basically all are 520d
*most of europe
A 535d is and will remain a fast car regardless where you live.
@@legioner9 well, not even rich people around me have cars over 200hp while the sales smasher RAV4 and camey in the US have 225, which gives you idea that other places have way faster regular traffic
@@comeberza Yeah, depends. The cars you mentioned are still slow. A BMW with 200 hp destroys a RAV4 with 200 hp.
If I'd buy a diesel for some reason, I'd go with a BMW.
hey you... i dont like you
Just, don't!
@@richardhammer187 Why not?
@@blankname8553 canal boat.
@@richardhammer187the m57 is one of the most reliable modern diesel engines ever made what are you yapping about
Never seen this episode before keep up the good work:)
Yet another cracking upload
A downpipe and a laptop later, 550i is staring at some tail lights, throw in some hybrid turbos and an M5 will enjoy those tail lights too
545i in this vid
Jeremy clarkson predicted subway surfers tiktok split screen 😂
Modern diesel too expensive to maintain and repair. X5 deisel most unreliable and costly car I've ever owned
A diesel, if maintained and used properly, can last. Diesels are not made for urban use, especially when you add in the EGR and DPF systems, though removing these resolves the issue about 80% of the way (we disregard pollution here, we're talking strictly about reliability, though if there was a reliable solution to make a diesel clean and usable in the city, I'd gladly do it). A diesel comes into its own on long journeys under constant speed and high load. That's when it has enough energy and heat to remove all of the soot from its valves, injectors and wherever else soot likes to deposit down the exhaust.
the n57 or s or z are all reliable if the oil changes are done regularly on 8k km or thereabouts also changing the rods and oil pump it's pretty much all you gotta do, not talking abt EGR and DPF, those are a simple delete electronically and you're good to go (cause like wth, you get a clogged dpf and then have to go ahead and clean it by revving it and take out all that smoke in the air) other than these, it's as reliable as a merc w123 diesel
top gear started the cat video meta
I have identical looking car except mines the far better 2008 lci and I love it wanted one for a long time hard to get in mint nick and low miles high spec but after 2 yrs looking at bad ones I got one !
my 535d stage1 380hp and 700Nm would eat that V8 :D
Looking at buying one, how have you found general reliability?
@@kylemooney3415 for now its very good, i Got it for 2 years and for the most part just doing normal maintenance, Oil, filters, swirl flaps remove, and dpf remove and its running like hell no problems so far, most important its previous owner, you buy good one and take care of it and you will be very happy :)
@@kylemooney3415 Do some preventive maintenance and rip it!
Stage 2 Remmap on the diesel different story
Stage 2 remap on the petrol, different story.
@@richardhammer187would do nothing
@@andytyrrell3232 it's a V8 not a 1.2, of course it would do something! Tuning on big NA engines produces results, certainly enough to comfortably see the canal boat off.
@@richardhammer187 you are absolutely wrong there, v8 maximal of 50hp where as 35d easily gets 100. Stock turbos on a 286 version can get to 420 alone
@@andytyrrell3232 nonsense.
I love top gear, but honestly comparing 535d to 550i is not fair
550i has a 4.8l engine
The 545i and 535d were flagship petrol and diesel models at the time
No wonder Australia NSW highway patrol use these! Wish there was a wagon version down under…
They shoulda put the stig in the diesel 😂
just get any dad to drive it, proper rocket these
Clarkson, the undisputed king of the FAKE videos and reviews.
Nobody said about TYRES of each car, not to mention the RAIN makes as the most toque to become lack of grip at all.
More than that, on stright lines is OBVIOUSLY for any human which use any bit of intelligence that car with MORE POWER will accelerate faster, but NOT the car with more TORQUE. That v8 was specially choosen as having A LOT more power and slightly even LIGHTER.
TG= FT.
Love seeing all the sections they cut out from the earlier seasons
If the Stig had been driving the diesel, the diesel would’ve won, despite the comparison petrol car being so loaded in the petrol car’s favour. The newer Diesel engines would rinse that petrol version.
What a good looking car man
The last most dashing 5 series ever, design wise, perhaps BMW can never make a cool 5 series like this in future....
F10 5 series looks very smart imo
I'm so mad that we got robbed out of diesel cars in the US.
I live in the U.S and have the 335d diesel. It’s a great car. We also got the newer 535d with the n57 diesel, and the 328d with the n47, plus a couple suv. Definitely not nearly as many as Europe obviously which sucks.
e60's are exempt from the 25 year rule, just import one.
None of y’all noticed that the wipers are placed wrong for a UK rhd car ?
What a dull observation
Yes, it's the same for all BMWs, regardless of age.
@@THE-BUNKEN-DRUMno it isn't.
Remap and its faster
Completely unfair comparison. Not only should it have been a 530i but also 2 drivers of similar ability. Stig would've won in the 535d if he'd been in that.
V8 Turbo Vs Flat 6? Shouold have been the 535I with the straight 6 turbo! 🙃
Well ... one can drive into London for free and the other has to pay £12.50.
That's the difference (we're in London).
E60 is shitty
Wow!
If I was still at my old job (i used to fo 35 miles each way), one of these would be perfect. However, I now work around a mile and a half away from home, so diesel’s no good.
This guy on petrol car was much a better driver you should give 535d to another driver to a better driver 😅😅😅
lmao i didnt notice the kittens
Strange decision to compare it with the v8 and not the 535i
Clarkson talking about the turbos "big one and the small one" and later "can you imagine going on a dinner with the man who came up with this. I see what you did there Clarkson
He just meant that person must be boring, no?
nice upload king
Le moteur 6 cylindre le plus performant et le plus silencieux au mooonde
Beautiful design the E60 has. One of the all time very best timeless designs. God bless Davide Arcangeli.
335d can be tweaked though....
Nice one👍🏻
Shame BMW didn't put the 4.4 V8 from the 745d in the E60 instead and make a 545d > 242 kW (330 PS) / 750 Nm
Too heavy
did the diesel have dynamic drive roll bars?
it was an option for every model.
Well both of my cars, a 2004 Chrysler Grand Voyager and a 2009 Chrysler Sebring are diesels and I am more than happy with their performance. The engines really developed pretty well
😂😂😂😂
What episode is this? Feels like 2005
looks like '04 from the plate
@@Littleleg1649 2005 on a 54 plate
@@applejuice5272exactly, when will people ever understand that 0x/1x/2x registrations are March to August and 5x/6x/7x registrations are September to February...
It's Series 6 Episode 10 (aired 31 July 2005), so 05 reg was current by then, but it's quite possible that this review was filmed before March 2005, hence the 54 reg.
Who else was looking at the cat video and not at the mechanical information.
He should have compared it to a 530i which is similar
2003-2005 530i [231] was similar to 530d [218]. 2004-2007 535d put out 272 PS / 560 Nm which only rivalled the non-existent N62B36 V8-powered 535i (272 PS / 360 Nm).
Another way of looking at it is the 545i and 535d were flagship petrol and diesel models at the time.
@@applejuice5272 And then the tractor falls flat again, despite turbos and god knows.
@@miljororforsprakpartiet290 Bro The Petrol had a V8 4.5L whereas as the diesel had basically a turbocharged 3.5L , So No The Tractor didn't fall flat
but he still praised the diesel and shot himself anyways, so all good
jokes apart, this is 535d, not the 530d which is similar to 530i
@@miljororforsprakpartiet290 it kept up very well, considering clarkson at the wheel and it was raining as hell
Fun fact: Diesel engines have lower rpm limits right? Petrol has more rpm. More rpm equals faster pistons. And the petrol brother didn’t win bc the engine was bigger (wich was kinda true) it won bc it more rpm. Thank you for your time.
As Elon Musk exposed, all these episodes where scripted. It didn't matter the real performance of the cars
It shouldn't have taken Elon Musk to tell people this, as it's pretty obvious to anyone with a functional brain.
Didnt musk loose his lawsuit against clarksson? XD
Imagine comparing the V8 petrol to 2L inline 6 diesel with less bhp..!!! And still competing neck yo neck…!!! I take this as an absolute win..!!!
Diesel ❤
😂