I don't understand either, what's gonna happen after Halo infinite? There has to be something to continue chief's story! Edit: maybe they can just show what happened to the arbiter in infinite?
From 343? Yes. People need to abandon Halo and make a statement. You content creators and communities keep lambasting 343 then crawling back to them time and time again when they do something even the tiniest of 'Good' despite spitting in your faces constantly.
Tbh whats going on rn is the beyond horrible mismanagement of 343 of halo through thier entire trainwrek of having halo coming home to roost. Looking back tbh it was kinda inevitable that 343 self destructed, and I dont evny the situation the new heads were in. They were handed a sinking ship in an unstable job market and had to make a choice between making a campign and keeping the server lights on, and they chose the latter, which tbh I think was the right call. What needs to happen now is the HALO ip needs to be given out to other sutidos to make spinoffs over the next 7-10ish years while 343 all be rebuilds from scratch. During that time we as a community need to keep the passion alive, keep hosting custom games, keep playing MCC, keep modding, keep making machinima ect, make it clear to microsft that we are still in for the long hual, and they will make games happen.
I completely agree 100 percent Halo's campaign is what makes halo halo removing that is just downright insane and is just an instant turn off of interest for me
@@BlightedRefulgencelet’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
It's heartbreaking. My favorite franchise clinging to microtransactions, being carried by a soap company, appealing to competitive players. Absolute failure. Will never forgive 343
If we made a pie chart on my time spent in halo it would read as 85% Campaign 10% Competitive Multiplayer 5% Firefight I don't care about multiplayer anymore. I just wanna see Master Chief do cool things and have awesome halo music make me feel things Edit: I also want to see other characters besides chief. Another odst style game for example.
Chief is a cool character but he is holding the series back, 343 are running out of ideas for chief's story which should have ended in halo 3. we need to explore and expand the halo universe and other characters and spin-off games.
let’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
I'm still honestly baffled that millions of halo fans have told 343 for over 10 years what they want and they continue to do the exact opposite of that
It's because 343 wants to make "their Halo" not the Halo we grew to love. Nothing is more clear than that, especially when you see how the 343 higher-ups greenlit the Halo show in all it's awful, worse than fanfiction horridness.
@@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead That’s the trend in entertainment now. People take jobs on franchises they don’t care for to build their resume. See Witcher and She-Hulk.
@Ja Lee I'll reiterate my previous sentiment, I think it's so much worse than that. I genuinely believe that the worst aspects of politics and thus society have thoroughly permeated art and media. The people taking these digital art/design jobs have no respect for the art and the creative vision that existed before them. They have no interest in being original, and clearly from what original content that is produced, it's objectively not very appealing. Their education fed them a nihilistic and purposeless ideology, one that states all art originates from some kind of oppression and it shows in the modern devolution style of art in every genre. From music to architecture, it's largely generic and uninspired. There is only utility left, and even then it is limited in scope. Modern art is the antithesis of what art is supposed to represent, which is human expression. Modern art lacks expression, because the human condition has become expressionless, everything about us has become standardized and controlled.
I’m so glad I can count myself among those who grew up with the original trilogy and got to experience Halo during its golden years. It’s heartbreaking to see the state the franchise is in.
I grew up on halo 3, ODST, but mostly Reach. Me and my cousin used to no life reach and we both got Inheritor. We were so happy when we got it😂 but then they shut the servers down so during the last week of it we played our hearts out on campaign, firefight, splatter monkey, speed halo, and all the fun modes. RIP Reach.
343 had what would have been one of the most heartfelt stories of the entire series, and it was ended in a single cutscene... Imagine for a moment, being a lifelong halo fan, being forced to track down Cortana while also fighting the banished to just try and make her see reason. Just to finally find her and have her force you into a fight that you do not want, and that can only end with either her destroyed or the legendary Master chief finally dead. Maybe a final cutscene with some bittersweet last words about all the insane things chief and her did together before she or he dies. 343 laid the foundation for the most emotion evoking story halo fans have seen since reach, but instead they went "no here's one cutscene asshole."
I was born around the same time as halo 3 I played halo 1 and 2 after halo 4s release with my dad then I got an Xbox 360 and played halo 3 odst with my dad but played halo reach by myself (I believe my dad was busy at the time and I beat it in like 2 or 3 nights) then I got halo 3 and played it with my dad (we preferred halo 2) then I would watch the halo 4 trailer every day on hulu of all things me and my dad played it and had fun with it then I got halo 5 shortly after I got my Xbox one (my first Xbox one game was hello neighbor 💀) at the time I enjoyed it because I was young I did express to my dad that I didn’t think we played as chief enough. And then I got halo infinite years later. My dad did some open world stuff with me and he did like the game play but he said he thinks cod is in a better place because it’s still very grounded (it’s important to mention he never played bo3 aw or iw) but he thinks halo infinite was an improvement just not very militaristic. I love these games
So hard to have any hope in Halo now. Personally, I've emotionally written the series off. Anything positive that actually happens will be a nice surprise.
Never forget what they’ve taken from us, but also never forget the good times we all shared. The best we can do is be like the humans in halo. Fight a losing war and hold out till the very end.
@@darkflames8053 Same here. Besides enjoying the books I've mostly moved on to Destiny & other games for now. If Halo ever makes a comeback I'll be right there to cheer it on with the rest of you. 😎 If not... 😢
let’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
@@arcanum3882 Oh damn bro, you got him so good bro. Here, take this single like on your comment so you can feel like you actually accomplished something for the first time in a while
I play Halo almost exclusively for the Campaign, I just dabble briefly in the multiplayer when I first get the game. I think splitting campaign and multiplayer isn't too bad an idea, as long as they keep quality of both.
I mean, they pretty much did it with Infinite. You don't need to buy campaign to play multiplayer, and the multiplayer season story so far isn't related to infinite.
343 had what would have been one of the most heartfelt stories of the entire series, and it was ended in a single cutscene... Imagine for a moment, being a lifelong halo fan, being forced to track down Cortana while also fighting the banished to just try and make her see reason. Just to finally find her and have her force you into a fight that you do not want, and that can only end with either her destroyed or the legendary Master chief finally dead. Maybe a final cutscene with some bittersweet last words about all the insane things chief and her did together before she or he dies. 343 laid the foundation for the most emotion evoking story halo fans have seen since reach, but instead they went "no here's one cutscene a**hole."
Halo 4 was the last I bought. Enemies were boring bullet sponges and couldn't even tell if I was hurting them. RIP Halo, now a show comes out rewriting the entire Chief/ Cortana lore... she's stuck in his head and can knock him out now 🤦
Multi-player is fun, but as somebody who consumes the novels, is a fan of the lore, and loves the story told through campaign, this is a shot to the gut.
The problem with multiplayer is that it as take over the game industries witch means game developers are no longer forced to make a good game or at least a good campaign because of multiplayer the difference between 343 and Bungie is when Bungie made the Halo games the Campaign was just as important as Multiplayer and vice versa is to wear 343 has only focused on multiplayer it seems to me they don't give a crap about campaign you know there's so much potential in fact I wouldn't mind seeing a Halo game kind of like Aliens Fireteam Elite you have different armors different weapons and you can even upgrade your weapons I wouldn't mind having a Halo game where I can do that
It's okay everyone. if it's not releasing until 2027, that gives me time to finish my UX/UI degree, get hired by 343i, and make the game menus usable again!!! Wish me luck!
Lots of people have a UX/UI degree and get rejected by 343/other departments of Microsoft. Once you get your degree, you'll have to build a professional network, portfolio, and years of experience. So I applaud you for your efforts but unfortunately, I feel like it'll be a while for 343 to get their stuff together :(
I think Campaign spin-offs are too essential to leave out, and it'd be wrong to ignore fascinating aspects of Halo's universe that people enjoy. But most AAA developers have gone the route of not listening properly to the community at obvious answers as to what the next step for those IPs should be. Me personally? I'd like a Great Schism game in High Charity.
I would agree and disagree with this. Halo spinoff games if done correctly like Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and Halo Wars 1 & 2 can be incredibly rewarding. However we have had some pretty bad ones like Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike. Quite honestly it depends on the spinoff and how they do it.
@@chaoschaoforever Spartan Assault and Strike were simply marketing imo. They didn’t have nearly enough to be real spin-offs, and when I mention spin-offs I specifically mean the bolder ones you mentioned. But I can see where you’re coming from and respect your view. I just personally don’t see them as real spin-off titles because I feel they lack the depth to be considered those.
@@GatoConBotas403 I’ve imagined a game where you play in a squad of elites making it through the city streets of High Charity and gain allies as well as lose some, eventually finding your way either to the Separatist fleet or having the main character die by the Covenant’s hand.
It genuinely hurts as a Halo fan that campaigns are just kinda.. not seen as important. Halo's campaign has always been a core part of what makes it well- HALO! And now its just gone?
This is because of Game Pass and the reduction of video games from “products” to “content”. For most people, the campaign is something you play through a couple times -and that worked when you paid per game-; but Microsoft doesn’t want that when you pay by the month. They want a multiplayer with a cash shop to retain and farm customers. Campaigns are for sales, but they don’t really retain customers.
@@deriznohappehquite except Halo Infinite's multiplayer provides 0 value to gamepass anyway, because it is free to play. It's not the fault of gamepass lmao.
One of the coolest parts of halo is the unique sandbox that you get from the campaign. If you divorce those two things it just be strange. Unless you add every new campaign weapon to the multiplayer
Rainbow Six Siege had this problem with Extraction, it’s a hard game to balance multiplayer and so extraction was stuck in whatever balancing meta the multiplayer was in at the time. And features in Extraction that people wanted in Siege would have been difficult to implement. But the idea of separate multiplayer and campaign games was excellent and has tons of potential
What’s insane is how there is so many fans of this franchise the people who are making these games/show are just spitting in the face of the community. Im still rattled about why we needed Master Cheeks
Listening to modern Halo news is like seeing a family member, day-by-day, suffer from dementia until the finally die. I still cling to the lore and the old games, but I’m mostly focused on the original Eric Nylund era of lore where ships were cramped, had centrifuges for gravity, and had references to Newtonian physics.
@@HydratedBeans I'm pretty sure the centrifugal artificial gravity is still canon, but only up to the 2530s or 40s. Apparently they got gravity plating tech from the Covenant and used that on newer warships.
To be honest, story-wise, I started to fall out of Halo when they made disposable Spartans, and by the time Forerunner stuff displaced most Covenant/aftermath and Flood elements, the spark was lost for me. (To be fair, I've pretty much burned out on the trope of humanity finding advanced tech from long dead civilizations. Leapfrogging the Covenant via technological assimilation and improvement was keen and interesting, but man. Stargate, Halo, Mass Effect, we never haul our hides off this planet without plain inheriting/graverobbing technology so that we go so swiftly from cosmological backwater that's barely a regional power to challenging galactic super powers is just boring. It's the Superman of sci-fi tropes, so OP that it becomes hard to believe there's any stakes at all. It ain't unique to Halo, but it's become a sore spot for me. x.x) That's a pretty spot on analogy, too. Made all the more bitter that at this pace, my own bout with dementia is liable to really start sucking two, maybe three Halo releases down the line. x.x Now, I don't know what the future holds, maybe I dodged those specific genes and maybe 343 will usher in a new golden age of Halo by 2030-2035; but it's akin to expecting to win the Powerball, technically possible, but the odds are essentially 0%. About the only refreshing thing in this miserable state of affairs that feels relatively novel is that, for once, EA isn't to blame for laying complete waste to a cherished franchise. Can't imagine buying a Halo game on release anymore, and I certainly don't expect to be awful tempted to buy at all if they separate campaign and multiplayer. One has to have a foundation of trust that they aren't getting scammed into paying the same price for ever less product (with ever more microtransactions), and I just don't think 343 has anywhere near that required level of faith and good will to pull it off. That's the trouble with death spirals: the further in you are, the more locked into the feedback loop you become. x.x Wish I had a more optimistic outlook on it, but it is what it is. >.o
@brody7714 Where'd you hear that? Sledgehammer's next game is MWIII, so unless they actually have a plan in place to make AW2 next, we're never getting it. I'd love a sequel to AW, but I doubt we'll ever get one.
I love how y'all in this reply section just believe leaks without questioning any of them. Why tf would activision want mw3 to come out only a year later XD and aw2 is just a stretch bro.
It makes me wanna weep seeing Halo how it is now. It being the first game I’ve ever played, as well as me being mere months older than the release of combat evolved, it’s like it’s been apart of my life as much as you breathe air. This is like watching your best friend get slowly stripped of life for 22 years
I really do agree with having campaigns as separate experiences would be the best. It would also open the door for Halo to get more dev teams to explore its universe. Ala Riot Forge with LoL. Another concerning thing with the uncertain timeline of it all is that Steve Downes is 72 years old, soon to be 73. Which could mean he may only have 2 more (hopefully more than that) chances at being chief in a mainline game. So I hope we at least get a good one with a really good send off to chief.
I don't agree that campaign and MP should diverge. MP has always lived off of the mechanics and weapons of the campaign. If they are split, then each one will be having to invent their own weapons and vehicles and we'll end up with completely different items, I think they'll start fighting over actually what the lore is.
After I watched this video, I suddenly remembered Thanos words: "As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be." 343 and Thanos are somehow similar with this line
The difference is that 343 will be crushed by the fans if they can't get the fans to pay more. Halo is ultimately a game who's main audience is ~20-35 years old now, but the devs seem to be caught up in fortnite.
Campaign has always been the biggest draw for me in terms of Halo. It had one of the strongest stories and universe for an FPS and kept me interested long after multiplayer got boring.
Halos story was one of the main things I grew up on and one of the things I love so much, I still play the campaigns to this day. To see these characters come together and fight side by side and how their stories connected was amazing and made me so excited. I hope that our fears don’t come true and we get something soon but idk man I’ve kinda almost lost hope at this point and it’s getting hard to hold on. Your idea with splitting the campaign and multiplayer while I’m not in love with it could work
The saddest part about this is, I liked the campaign for once. I was choppy sure, needs some fleshing out. But it was actually, finally, in the history of 343, going somewhere. I actually felt like for once, I was playing something akin to Halo again. It's just sad to see it get axed so quickly. Halo's campaign built interest in the game for me more than the multiplayer ever did. Such a well told story that I feel like we'll never get again in this trilogy...
Completely agree. Just focusing on campaign and splitting it from the multiplayer stuff sounds like a pretty good idea. I was so excited for Infinite and the “10 year life plan“ 343 promised us. They said it was going to be filled with content and dlcs and here we are almost 2 years later and we can safely say that 343 CANNOT keep that promise. I need a weapon
This makes me so sad. Campaign is the greatest feature of Halo. If the games ever die, I really hope they continue the novels because I can’t go without new Halo lore and stories!!!!!
Try and play the entire Marathon trilogy. Each one of the games have better storytelling than Halo Infinite, and those games only tell the story minimally through text and also the environment.
I absolutely agree. At this point, campaign and multi-player shouldn't just be separate teams but i think separated studios. If 343 are committed to multiplayer, we need a group that isn't controlled/constrained by them.
This, absolutely this. 343 fumbled the ball, so why don't we let someone else pick it up. You can't 1v4 a game of grifball if you're bad at the game, you gotta work with your team to win.
Id Software aren't experienced with Halo games but I think they'd do a good job with a dedicated Campaign title, since they've designed far more mechanically complex and faster single-player FPS titles than Halo. Going from designing Doom campaigns to Halo campaigns would be easier than the other way around
@@rickygforce4217 How is Doom’s vehicle gameplay? How do AI squad mechanics work in Doom? Do the friendly AI characters in Doom work as well as Halo’s Marines?
Honestly not a bad idea splitting campaign and multiplayer. It’s not what most of us want I’m sure, but if it helps release campaigns every 2-3 years that would be incredible.
My greatest hope for Halo Infinite now? Campaign AI in Forge. Let fans create their own campaign maps. Based off the awesome multiplayer maps there are now, I think the kind of campaign levels the fans could make would be epic. Pretty sure this was a rumored feature awhile back that didn't pan out, and given the technical problems 343 is having with the game it might be a long shot, but I think one day it could happen.
Considering the campaign is the best part about Halo Infinite it’s sad that the future campaigns are in a state of limbo. I’ve loved 2 out of 3 of 343’s Halo campaigns. The campaigns are why I am invested in Halo. Hopefully something is announced soon whether its from 343 or something from another studio under 343’s watch. I enjoy multiplayer and other modes but at its core I play Halo for the story and campaign.
I feel like there is something wrong with the Microsoft gaming devision. How many games throughout the years have been announced and still haven't heard anything about? The ones that come out are with missing features and had some sort of development hell.
Halo is like a water park, you got the kiddie pool for the people who just wanna splash around, the jacuzzi for the people who wanna hang out, and the lap pool for the people who wanna go hard, then you have the slides for those who are just there to have a good time. (Warowl used this analogy to talk about CS as well) 343 just ripped out the kiddie pool, there is a crater in the water park.
They've ripped the kiddie pool out, banned you for timing your laps, put sharks in the lazy river and the last half of the water slide isn't in the game yet. Oh and you have to pay extra to wear your own shorts.
If we have to wait till 2027 for another Halo... and the fact it's a serious possibility at this point... my love for Halo can only be abused for so long by Microsoft.
Feel for you, all the other content creators, and everyone who put their time and effort into the franchise only for 343, and namely their hierarchs, to run it into the ground.
I do think we will see good things in the future. All the lay offs and the reshuffling of staff and a new lead, Pierre Hintze - I have faith, I really do. Great video btw!
For $40 you would need some pretty substantial content though. A few new levels wouldn't cut it. Keep in mind the Dragonborn expansion for Skyrim was like $20 and it had a whole new map to explore with new quests and content. It's pretty much my gold standard for game DLC. That and Blood and Wine for Witcher 3.
@@gamrknight8060 Dying Light had The Following DLC, which provides an entirely new map, new mechanics like the buggy, and a whole continuation of the story.
Sony Santa Monica (God of War) managed to deliver 2 blockbuster titles in the span of 4 years, games that are *infinitely* more polished with far greater quality of writing than anything 343 has put out. I can't for the life of me, figure out why 343/MS are trying to actively kill this incredible franchise.
@@cheefqueef6494 It can be mid in your opinion but I think it's a popular belief that Ragnarok was a worthy successor to God of War 2018. And besides, if Ragnarok is to be considered as mid, I don't even know what you call Infinite which took 2 years more than Ragnarok and still managed to sh*t the bed. It's honestly criminal that a game set on Zeta Halo of all rings turned out to be as barebones as Infinite did.
We need the modders, we need the indie devs, we need SOMEONE to come along and pick up the mantle because it seems that the community has more heart for this than 343.
What really gets me, is that they know how we feel. They see our complaints and hear our voices, they know full well how disappointed and discontent we are. They know how negatively their choices and decisions are received, they’ve heard all the criticisms and know what they are doing is not only unpopular, but unsuccessful. They know they are pushing players away and alienating their core audience They just don’t care
Or you know… they literally don’t have the personnel to work on a campaign rn due to layoffs from when Microsoft was trying to acquire Blizzard. But yeah it could be your thing too
@@alejandrocarruyo4101 my brother in Christ I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but they’ve been pulling this kind of shit since long before the layoffs
I really fucking hate how so many studios are not even bothering with single-player Story-based Campaigns. These cinematic, replayable, story focused experiences are what makes me interested in buying games at all in the first place....Marathon is coming back, and currently has no single-player story aspect, 343 is neither equipped or interested in continuing the story they left on a cliffhanger...im still probably going to try Marathon because its Bungie, but the idea that "single player games are profitable" from a purely corporate perspective just isnt true if you look at recent games.
but if you buy a non-campaign game you have proven the narrative. They don't need to give you a story to satisfy you, so you've helped make the problem worse
You hit the the nail on the head on this one. Just wished people would listen to fan feedback, we just want the show to go on. I miss Halo in its prime, when we could expect that EVENTUALLY, in just a few short years, the story would continue
What's even worse is that Multiplayer, what they've decided to go 'all-in' on, is a SHADOW of its former self. Like Halo always used to have some major ingenuity or reimgaination of what they previously created. Like Forge World, Firefight, hell we should be at Warzone 4.0 at this point. But everything we have gotten is just a waterdowned version of something we had in the past. Idk what will happen but I will always BELIEVE that Halo will return in some way. At least that is what the campaign and the books taught was to always believe. Thank you for the video. I don't usually comment but something about watching HiddenXperia talk about Halo always makes my day.
It definitely makes sense based off the direction they are handling multiplayer. With it being a live service thing, it would definitely be a better business mode to separate campaign and the multiplayer.
The problem with Halo campaigns as well is the fact there’s next to no continuity or cohesion to 343’s Halo campaigns. They haven’t built up anything in the 10+ years because they keep retconning and scrapping key story elements. Not to mention Frank O’Connors legendary Forerunners =/= Humans retcon that pretty much derailed Halo’s lore from Halo 4 onwards.
I was mostly okay with the revised lore - provided they BUILT on, and did something, with it. And the Didact being made a villain was arguably an even rougher idea - especially with how wasted he's been since. And lots of new lore was set up in Terminals - but not built on, much. Then the Precursors got added - but are very hard to factor into a simple game narrative.
I believe I have a fix. The Forerunner divide into two main branches. Forerunner evolved on technology and gentic manipulation while Humanity grows spiritual first before relating on technology/ genetic modification. Humanity kept their identity while Forerunner lost themselves relating on the technology, reaching the ending that scientific and biological could push. The Flood would be creation by the Forerunner on their attempt to cheat death with their composer. The Flood would attack Humanity frist and weaker races like elites, grunts, etc for bio mass before challenge the Forerunner. So after the flood war, Humanity has to rebuild while the remaining Forerunner start their great journey of self discovery. Remember, Covenant religion on the Forerunner ISN'T a straight up lie, rather a massive misunderstanding what happened.
Y’all gotta stop harping on the Forerunners not being humans thing. Not every OG fan likes the idea of them being humans. Even BUNGIE was split on the idea, so it goes to show that it might not be that great.
I’ve had this thought for a while I like the idea of 343 developing and supporting multiplayer whilst overseeing another dev building a series of single player halo games
I am very discouraged now, one of the main reasons I was looking forward to Infinite was the 10y plan and how much the campaign and in-game lore would expand, and play all of it with friends in wacky different ways, instead I got a half baked story that was good but with too many open questions and no clear answer or point to it, at the end I still had most of the same questions I had at the beginning of the campaign
This video NEEDED to be made! Thank you Luc! I've been keeping a close eye on campaign news for a while and it's only gone from bad to worse and if Halo games stop having campaigns, then 343 will have permanently lost me as a customer. It's what I grew up with and it is the fictional universe I grew up with and adore even more than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings and to have a Halo game without a campaign... that's just not Halo to me. I can't support the bastardization of Halo anymore so I'm done. Atleast until they announce a new campaign. If that doesn't happen, Halo and I are done, or rather, 343 and I. I will always love the Bungie Halo games and will keep playing those till the day I die
I truly feel that even Microsoft is aware that if they ever released a Halo game sans campaign, said game would be a total flop...Halo's campaign is necessary, but it's going to be awhile. Halo is pulling a Mass Effect, we have to wait for awhile now...
@@theunderdog9353 true but this isn't like Battlefield. Halo was built on story content, they'd have to be next level stupid. It would be like EA making a Mass effect game without a story or making it completely linear without any choice or player input whatsoever
Turned 30 this year, hearing these year gaps of 5+ years per release make me feel like I won't get to see the end of the story, or at least, a decent conclusion for our generation, and Halo isn't the only franchise who has this issue, it sucks.
That's the future of gaming unless AI takes over a lot of the game development, studios stop focusing so much on photorealism, or players stop demanding more and more features. Because programing isn't really getting easier, consumers keep asking for more, and publishers are not giving enough resources to deal with all this properly.
@ivanaviNiebla I agree completely I love people like the angry Joe show but people like that bitching about games being 70 are part of the problem your describing. I agree things like 2k or madden shouldn't be more then 20 bucks max but God of war or resident evil remake are easily worth a hundred bucks but video game consumers want to have dozens to hundreds of hours of gameplay and still pay less for the game then a large family would going to the movies
Hell I’m almost 24 and started with halo 3/ odst back in 2008 as a little kid, I already lost interest in gaming and only came back for the infinite campaign, I think for the next halo I’m going to be a father lol
I would be fine with a shared multiplayer between games. Have progression and graphics tied to the each game separately but have a sorta cross game compatibility mode.
I think an easy way of consistent campaigns is to do prequel content and let us PLAY the content from some of the books, some insurrectionist war stuff, and maybe more games that involve the fact that we were at war with the Covenant for 30 YEARS. Because in all the mainline games (1-3) we only see like the last couple years of the war
I think the future of gaming needs to go back to the 2 disc feature. The first disc being campaign and is focused on JUST that. And the other team has the 2nd disc focused on multi-player, special features, theater, forge, and other modes. Hell, DLC could be on multi-player mode where it's like your spartan in a Spartan-ops style of continuation.
The issue is the question everyone is asking isn't what and when anymore, it's if, and if it is so, how will 343 fail to deliver what they promise again.
Accepting halo is over is the best thing. Buy if you want but just forget it until it’s released. Accepting star wars is over, marvel movies are over. Moving on feels better than holding on feeling disappointed
They would need to wrap up the entire Ark conflict as well as find a way to get off the Ark now that the way Atriox used is no longer accessible. The Ark conflict is only getting more complicated with the Banished still being a huge threat and the Covenant forces from the dreadnought from the Divine Wind book have also been released. So until they address that huge can of worms, Spirit of Fire isn't magically going anywhere
Been a huge fan and very avid player of Halo since 2006. Having played Halo 3, Reach, and Halo 4 all day one and seeing Halo now is night and day. It's depressing knowing what Halo WAS like and it is not like that anymore.
One thing I genuinely miss was playing a halo campaign on day 1 with my friends coop. We've done that since Halo 3 when they first had 4 player coop. By the time coop finally came out like 8 months later none of us were interested anymore bcuz we weren't even playing the game anymore cuz the MP was so bare bones.
Your solution sounds good. Personally, I only really care about story, so the campaign is certainly my focus. Multiplayer is occasionally fun every now and then, but I can easily live without it. Of course I know a lot of people do like it, so yeah a split seems reasonable for everyone to win.
It's BEEN on life support, nail in the coffin was the full cancelation of split screen campaign coop. They let down the fans in a big way after YEARS of promising otherwise. Everyone (including myself) thought Joe Staten would save the game, but the opposite was true. Need to scrap it and move on. Hopefully the entirely new team could do better than the excuses we've dealt with for the past several releases.
This takes me back. Growing up I only had PC to enjoy Halo CE, and Halo 2 for windows Vista. Got the opportunity to enjoy H3 down the street at a friend's house and waited many years for MCC to release. All we can do is hope for another miracle.
Imagine a world where Halo Infinite released as a polished, feature-complete title with everything we could want from a Halo game, and every 2 years we get a brand new single player campaign telling an evolving narrative culminating in a grand finale for Master Chief’s story. Just imagine.
I loved the part where Cortana suicided herself after failing to outsmart a space monkey but can wipe out most of the galaxy and control foreunner technology for fun... i still despise the infinite campaign
The fact that you didn’t understand the campaign doesn’t mean it’s bad. It had some flaws, but it was about as good as it could get after Halo 5 and how it was received. Overall, there was very much potential for the DLC, but it was all killed or at least postponed by years because of absolutely horrible management.
@@ВікторСидорчук-э1ф the campaign was very flawed. The open world was poorly executed, the best part of the story happens off screen and thru audio logs. The gamer is somehow supposed to sympathize with Cortana even though she committed galactic genocide and authoritarian rule. Nobody knows what the endless are, why even include them in the game. And now it seems like any dlc to continue the lackluster campaign ending isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
I'm surprised just how much content this dude manages to squeeze out of Halo I've been watching HiddenXperia for as long as I can remember😂😂 keep up the great work the community loves it!!
I miss the old campaigns. They still are some of my favorite campaigns in gaming. I hope 343 is watching you and take your advice, but sadly I doubt it which is a shame.
@@ASPVids The story really isn't that great either when you look at it. It's mostly told through audio logs, holograms, or flashbacks, and hardly has any memorable moments. It didn't make me care for the Banished or Endless (whatever they are supposed to be) and most of the meat of the story was offscreen. Pair this with the empty open world and you have a really unmemorable, bland experience. The only Halo campaign I didn't replay.
@@Key_Mind I agree in that I found the plot itself quite basic but I liked a lot of the character work, especially Chief. He was exactly what I thought Chief would've been like after H3, and Downe's performance was probably the best I've seen from him. That alone carried me through the barebones plot
343 sucks and Halo Infinite is done. They have completely destroyed a great franchise. I actually hope they don't allow 343 to make any more Halo games.
Halo is its story for me. Multiplayer is fun and I’ve spent hours playing it, but imo the thing that always made Halo special was the fact that it consistently told a great story and imo that elevated it above most shooters that were releasing at the time. The story is the reason I stuck with the franchise even during Halo 5 which I thought told a terrible story, because I loved the lore that was coming out around that time and I was invested in the idea that Halo’s story would get better. And it DID, I liked Halo Wars 2 and Infinite’s story and was excited for the new possibilities an open world campaign with live service additions over time could give us. That excitement is gone now. So 343 needs to give me a reason to hope again. The thing that would do it is announcing more campaign content.
Man this is so frustrating to hear, we literally started to pull out of the ditch we were in, only to be scrambling to get out of what appears to be a deeper one. The mismanagement, disorganisation and unreliability of the franchise is so fucking saddening to witness. Here’s hoping there is some miraculous switch up to the progress of campaign and doesn’t leave us waiting what feels like a lifetime again.
I’ve had faith in 343 for too long now, ever since the anniversary of Halo CE when I was a kid. I’m 20 now, I’m not a kid anymore. Even when infinite was released and my friends would talk down on them as a studio I’d insist on correcting them and highlighting the good things they’ve done. But now I realise that with the amount of time they’ve been given, from the release of Halo 4 to now, they’ve simply not done enough. They don’t care anymore, but for the sake of everyone I really wish they did. We’re told next to nothing, and they’re never certain, which results in us having to literally come up with ideas on what they should/need to do next. If they were fans of Halo like many of us here, they wouldn’t struggle for ideas. They wouldn’t allow overpriced cosmetics. They wouldn’t allow having an incomplete campaign. I get budget and time plays a part in everything, but like I said, they’ve had enough time. I love Halo too much, Halo CE was the very first game my Father introduced me to on the original Xbox. He was a big fan and I used to love watching him play, and when he finally let me play Halo, I used to love playing it with him. It’s something I hold very close to my heart, so to watch it go downhill saddens me. But that’s just me ❤
Just played through Halo CE on Heroic with my 6 year old. Strange that somehow co op campaign just got left behind when I would argue that is the sole reason it became so iconic.
Halo has always been my favorite series. The memories of playing in my cousins basement will be with me forever. At this point, I’m just content with letting it die. I’ve held out hope for too long that I might experience something close to what I did years ago, but it’s fairly obvious that isn’t the reality. And honestly, I’m okay with that. I’ve come to realize that even if the original team were still making Halo, I don’t think it would feel the same. Sure it’d be fun, but it wouldn’t be what it was. The only thing that could make me feel like I did years back is a time machine. You’ve gotta move on some time.
Overqualified CEOs and project managers who know how to push profits but have little to no experience with the development pipeline. More project managers need to have started as developers so that they understand the actual development process.
It’s so sad I grew up on this franchise from when I was 6 years old on CE and have followed all the games since. It’s so upsetting to see what’s happening to halo, this franchise shaped a lot of what gaming is today. It hurts this franchise needs a comeback. I’m worried we won’t see any halo story for a while in a game that is, I unfortunately think we might be in a worse spot then we were with halo 5…
343's hit-and-miss streak enables me to say this, 343 should hire me as creative director. Even a rando on the internet would do a stellar job at this point.
343 finally struck gold with Infinite’s campaign, most people liked what it had to offer. It would really suck if they just bailed on it, but if they just wait 6 years or more to continue it, then I can’t see them just continuing it… I would just be done with the franchise if they bail on the story for the third time in a row. I think you hit the nail on the head though, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Halo’s main multiplayer platform going forward will be Tatanka, unless Infinite surges in players which I don’t see happening. Whilst Halo gets a Doom Eternal styled standalone campaign experience. I’d be happy with that, if it meant the franchise can get back on track.
Halo has one hope. ONE. Scrap 343’s story, reboot the series to a post Halo 3 timeline, and start from scratch. Make a PROPER follow up to Halo 3 instead of “let’s make Halo a SOAP OPERA!” I don’t like dealing in absolutes, but anyone who rejects this is simply in pure fucking denial. Nobody wants 343’s story, and I Microsoft FINALLY understands that
I just want a consistent stream of new Halo Campaigns... In the age of single player games dominating the market is that too much to ask? 😭
I don't understand either, what's gonna happen after Halo infinite? There has to be something to continue chief's story!
Edit: maybe they can just show what happened to the arbiter in infinite?
To quote the famous donkey youtube man "Microsoft is involved, which is always bad"
From 343? Yes. People need to abandon Halo and make a statement. You content creators and communities keep lambasting 343 then crawling back to them time and time again when they do something even the tiniest of 'Good' despite spitting in your faces constantly.
Tbh whats going on rn is the beyond horrible mismanagement of 343 of halo through thier entire trainwrek of having halo coming home to roost. Looking back tbh it was kinda inevitable that 343 self destructed, and I dont evny the situation the new heads were in. They were handed a sinking ship in an unstable job market and had to make a choice between making a campign and keeping the server lights on, and they chose the latter, which tbh I think was the right call.
What needs to happen now is the HALO ip needs to be given out to other sutidos to make spinoffs over the next 7-10ish years while 343 all be rebuilds from scratch. During that time we as a community need to keep the passion alive, keep hosting custom games, keep playing MCC, keep modding, keep making machinima ect, make it clear to microsft that we are still in for the long hual, and they will make games happen.
There is so much potential with Halo, I just wish Microsoft would assign studios to work on spinoff games
Campaign has always been the lifeblood of Halo for me. To see it in its current state is not only baffling, but just sad
I guess they decided there wasn't any money to be made from it. They only care about selling microtranscations in a live service multiplayer game.
I completely agree 100 percent Halo's campaign is what makes halo halo removing that is just downright insane and is just an instant turn off of interest for me
I was sad for Halo 10 years ago, now I just don’t care
@@BlightedRefulgencelet’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
It's heartbreaking. My favorite franchise clinging to microtransactions, being carried by a soap company, appealing to competitive players. Absolute failure. Will never forgive 343
If we made a pie chart on my time spent in halo it would read as
85% Campaign
10% Competitive Multiplayer
5% Firefight
I don't care about multiplayer anymore. I just wanna see Master Chief do cool things and have awesome halo music make me feel things
Edit: I also want to see other characters besides chief. Another odst style game for example.
Exactly
Chief is a cool character but he is holding the series back, 343 are running out of ideas for chief's story which should have ended in halo 3. we need to explore and expand the halo universe and other characters and spin-off games.
That's me as well to a T.
let’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
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Being a Halo fan in the 2020s starts to feel like being a Metroid fan in the 2010s
2030, here we come!
that means there's a light at the end of the tunnel... r-right???
@@HiddenXperia Ha.
That makes me sad and Happy but then again what about Prime 4? 😢
So when is our equivalent of Dread?
I'm still honestly baffled that millions of halo fans have told 343 for over 10 years what they want and they continue to do the exact opposite of that
It's because 343 wants to make "their Halo" not the Halo we grew to love. Nothing is more clear than that, especially when you see how the 343 higher-ups greenlit the Halo show in all it's awful, worse than fanfiction horridness.
@Joshua Vidrine It's worse than that, they literally hired people that didn't like the franchise.
It’s like they just want it to die…
@@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead That’s the trend in entertainment now. People take jobs on franchises they don’t care for to build their resume. See Witcher and She-Hulk.
@Ja Lee I'll reiterate my previous sentiment, I think it's so much worse than that.
I genuinely believe that the worst aspects of politics and thus society have thoroughly permeated art and media.
The people taking these digital art/design jobs have no respect for the art and the creative vision that existed before them. They have no interest in being original, and clearly from what original content that is produced, it's objectively not very appealing. Their education fed them a nihilistic and purposeless ideology, one that states all art originates from some kind of oppression and it shows in the modern devolution style of art in every genre. From music to architecture, it's largely generic and uninspired. There is only utility left, and even then it is limited in scope.
Modern art is the antithesis of what art is supposed to represent, which is human expression. Modern art lacks expression, because the human condition has become expressionless, everything about us has become standardized and controlled.
I’m so glad I can count myself among those who grew up with the original trilogy and got to experience Halo during its golden years. It’s heartbreaking to see the state the franchise is in.
Its sad I never had good internet but yeah those were the days.
I grew up on halo 3, ODST, but mostly Reach. Me and my cousin used to no life reach and we both got Inheritor. We were so happy when we got it😂 but then they shut the servers down so during the last week of it we played our hearts out on campaign, firefight, splatter monkey, speed halo, and all the fun modes. RIP Reach.
343 had what would have been one of the most heartfelt stories of the entire series, and it was ended in a single cutscene...
Imagine for a moment, being a lifelong halo fan, being forced to track down Cortana while also fighting the banished to just try and make her see reason. Just to finally find her and have her force you into a fight that you do not want, and that can only end with either her destroyed or the legendary Master chief finally dead.
Maybe a final cutscene with some bittersweet last words about all the insane things chief and her did together before she or he dies.
343 laid the foundation for the most emotion evoking story halo fans have seen since reach, but instead they went "no here's one cutscene asshole."
I was born around the same time as halo 3 I played halo 1 and 2 after halo 4s release with my dad then I got an Xbox 360 and played halo 3 odst with my dad but played halo reach by myself (I believe my dad was busy at the time and I beat it in like 2 or 3 nights) then I got halo 3 and played it with my dad (we preferred halo 2) then I would watch the halo 4 trailer every day on hulu of all things me and my dad played it and had fun with it then I got halo 5 shortly after I got my Xbox one (my first Xbox one game was hello neighbor 💀) at the time I enjoyed it because I was young I did express to my dad that I didn’t think we played as chief enough. And then I got halo infinite years later. My dad did some open world stuff with me and he did like the game play but he said he thinks cod is in a better place because it’s still very grounded (it’s important to mention he never played bo3 aw or iw) but he thinks halo infinite was an improvement just not very militaristic. I love these games
So hard to have any hope in Halo now. Personally, I've emotionally written the series off. Anything positive that actually happens will be a nice surprise.
Same at this point I'd rather have another halo wars than a mainline game
Never forget what they’ve taken from us, but also never forget the good times we all shared. The best we can do is be like the humans in halo. Fight a losing war and hold out till the very end.
I just can't let it go
@@darkflames8053 Same here. Besides enjoying the books I've mostly moved on to Destiny & other games for now. If Halo ever makes a comeback I'll be right there to cheer it on with the rest of you. 😎
If not... 😢
I can say without a single doubt that I would never ever play a Halo game without a full campaign.
let’s face it, 343 will never make a halo campaign because the community wants it. They allways do what the community don’t want. We can really see with the people in charge that they only care to make halo like fortnite. A multiplayer game with silly cosmetics and no epic story. I really wish we can get a epic halo campaign again, but with 343 in charge it will never happen. Hope dies Last, but it dies. It’s time to let go.
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Lots of people myself included would agree I think
@@medican117 Maybe id Software or MachineGames could do the campaigns from now on but that's massive hopium.
@@arcanum3882 Oh damn bro, you got him so good bro. Here, take this single like on your comment so you can feel like you actually accomplished something for the first time in a while
I just don't understand how there aren't multiple studios making halo games its actually mind blowing.
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I play Halo almost exclusively for the Campaign, I just dabble briefly in the multiplayer when I first get the game.
I think splitting campaign and multiplayer isn't too bad an idea, as long as they keep quality of both.
I mean, they pretty much did it with Infinite. You don't need to buy campaign to play multiplayer, and the multiplayer season story so far isn't related to infinite.
@@GamerX13X uh... it... it isnt related to the main story. But since the first cutscenes from the first season... it is canon.
Same!
343 had what would have been one of the most heartfelt stories of the entire series, and it was ended in a single cutscene...
Imagine for a moment, being a lifelong halo fan, being forced to track down Cortana while also fighting the banished to just try and make her see reason. Just to finally find her and have her force you into a fight that you do not want, and that can only end with either her destroyed or the legendary Master chief finally dead.
Maybe a final cutscene with some bittersweet last words about all the insane things chief and her did together before she or he dies.
343 laid the foundation for the most emotion evoking story halo fans have seen since reach, but instead they went "no here's one cutscene a**hole."
In my mind it would be like the difference between warzone and the OG CoD's like MW 1 2 and 3
It’s just sad to see so many classic game franchises just left to rot by incompetent publishers nowadays.
I could just cry because Halo has been my childhood, and I feel pissed off of how 343 and Xbox butchered this franchise!😠🤦🏾♂️
Halo 4 was the last I bought. Enemies were boring bullet sponges and couldn't even tell if I was hurting them. RIP Halo, now a show comes out rewriting the entire Chief/ Cortana lore... she's stuck in his head and can knock him out now 🤦
Incompetent, woke publishers to busy pushing twisted and sick ideologies!
Facts.
Well nowadays its not about making a lot of money its about making all the money.
Multi-player is fun, but as somebody who consumes the novels, is a fan of the lore, and loves the story told through campaign, this is a shot to the gut.
Definitely!
The problem with multiplayer is that it as take over the game industries witch means game developers are no longer forced to make a good game or at least a good campaign because of multiplayer the difference between 343 and Bungie is when Bungie made the Halo games the Campaign was just as important as Multiplayer and vice versa is to wear 343 has only focused on multiplayer it seems to me they don't give a crap about campaign you know there's so much potential in fact I wouldn't mind seeing a Halo game kind of like Aliens Fireteam Elite you have different armors different weapons and you can even upgrade your weapons I wouldn't mind having a Halo game where I can do that
It's okay everyone. if it's not releasing until 2027, that gives me time to finish my UX/UI degree, get hired by 343i, and make the game menus usable again!!! Wish me luck!
I wish you best of luck Spartan! o7
Lots of people have a UX/UI degree and get rejected by 343/other departments of Microsoft. Once you get your degree, you'll have to build a professional network, portfolio, and years of experience. So I applaud you for your efforts but unfortunately, I feel like it'll be a while for 343 to get their stuff together :(
@@matthewk4912 Already been working freelance in the field for almost 2 years and I finish in 1, so I got a head start 🫡
@@rykrrI wish you best of luck but often times employees have to stick to some guideline’s if 343 wants to continue this cours nothing can be done
In hindsight Bungie was an absolute god of a company, doing what everyone is afraid to do and setting the standard at the same time
Not really a God of a company now they’re just making dog shit looter shooters
Too bad bungie is now full of woke , sick and twisted devs pushing their ideologies!
"professionals have standards"
343's employees don't know what their doing its their Founders fault if the company doesn't make money the devs risk being fired
@@fdcayf1836 L take, I hope this is bait
It’s just like the Hollow Man poem Bungie referenced so much:
This is how the world ends
Not with a bang
But with a whimper
I think Campaign spin-offs are too essential to leave out, and it'd be wrong to ignore fascinating aspects of Halo's universe that people enjoy. But most AAA developers have gone the route of not listening properly to the community at obvious answers as to what the next step for those IPs should be. Me personally? I'd like a Great Schism game in High Charity.
I would agree and disagree with this.
Halo spinoff games if done correctly like Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and Halo Wars 1 & 2 can be incredibly rewarding. However we have had some pretty bad ones like Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike. Quite honestly it depends on the spinoff and how they do it.
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A GREAT SCHISM GAME WOULD BE SO GOOD OH MY GOSH
@@chaoschaoforever Spartan Assault and Strike were simply marketing imo. They didn’t have nearly enough to be real spin-offs, and when I mention spin-offs I specifically mean the bolder ones you mentioned. But I can see where you’re coming from and respect your view. I just personally don’t see them as real spin-off titles because I feel they lack the depth to be considered those.
@@GatoConBotas403 I’ve imagined a game where you play in a squad of elites making it through the city streets of High Charity and gain allies as well as lose some, eventually finding your way either to the Separatist fleet or having the main character die by the Covenant’s hand.
@@ZentoSket68 YES
OR FOLLOW THE BOOK “broken circle” to an extent and have it be a game adaptation of that
It genuinely hurts as a Halo fan that campaigns are just kinda.. not seen as important. Halo's campaign has always been a core part of what makes it well- HALO! And now its just gone?
I think he's wrong. I think they know it's important. They just can't commit to making one because 343 got gutted.
This is because of Game Pass and the reduction of video games from “products” to “content”.
For most people, the campaign is something you play through a couple times -and that worked when you paid per game-; but Microsoft doesn’t want that when you pay by the month. They want a multiplayer with a cash shop to retain and farm customers. Campaigns are for sales, but they don’t really retain customers.
@@deriznohappehquite except Halo Infinite's multiplayer provides 0 value to gamepass anyway, because it is free to play. It's not the fault of gamepass lmao.
One of the coolest parts of halo is the unique sandbox that you get from the campaign. If you divorce those two things it just be strange. Unless you add every new campaign weapon to the multiplayer
Rainbow Six Siege had this problem with Extraction, it’s a hard game to balance multiplayer and so extraction was stuck in whatever balancing meta the multiplayer was in at the time. And features in Extraction that people wanted in Siege would have been difficult to implement. But the idea of separate multiplayer and campaign games was excellent and has tons of potential
They have actually added them already. Go play fiesta and boom there you go. Campaign weapons and abilities in multiplayer.
@@xPestilence88 that’s not what I’m taking about. I mean a completely separate campaign from the multi player.
@@jamesdaviesanswers8751 ahhh like spartan ops in halo that everyone trashed on?
What’s insane is how there is so many fans of this franchise the people who are making these games/show are just spitting in the face of the community. Im still rattled about why we needed Master Cheeks
Listening to modern Halo news is like seeing a family member, day-by-day, suffer from dementia until the finally die. I still cling to the lore and the old games, but I’m mostly focused on the original Eric Nylund era of lore where ships were cramped, had centrifuges for gravity, and had references to Newtonian physics.
Ships were only like that in TFoR. It was retconned right when CE released.
@@HydratedBeans That's true, but the newtonian physics was around in First Strike, just not as prominently as TFoR.
@@petamerican2588 Newtonian physics is still there, I was just talking about the spinning sections.
@@HydratedBeans I'm pretty sure the centrifugal artificial gravity is still canon, but only up to the 2530s or 40s. Apparently they got gravity plating tech from the Covenant and used that on newer warships.
To be honest, story-wise, I started to fall out of Halo when they made disposable Spartans, and by the time Forerunner stuff displaced most Covenant/aftermath and Flood elements, the spark was lost for me. (To be fair, I've pretty much burned out on the trope of humanity finding advanced tech from long dead civilizations. Leapfrogging the Covenant via technological assimilation and improvement was keen and interesting, but man. Stargate, Halo, Mass Effect, we never haul our hides off this planet without plain inheriting/graverobbing technology so that we go so swiftly from cosmological backwater that's barely a regional power to challenging galactic super powers is just boring. It's the Superman of sci-fi tropes, so OP that it becomes hard to believe there's any stakes at all. It ain't unique to Halo, but it's become a sore spot for me. x.x)
That's a pretty spot on analogy, too. Made all the more bitter that at this pace, my own bout with dementia is liable to really start sucking two, maybe three Halo releases down the line. x.x Now, I don't know what the future holds, maybe I dodged those specific genes and maybe 343 will usher in a new golden age of Halo by 2030-2035; but it's akin to expecting to win the Powerball, technically possible, but the odds are essentially 0%.
About the only refreshing thing in this miserable state of affairs that feels relatively novel is that, for once, EA isn't to blame for laying complete waste to a cherished franchise.
Can't imagine buying a Halo game on release anymore, and I certainly don't expect to be awful tempted to buy at all if they separate campaign and multiplayer. One has to have a foundation of trust that they aren't getting scammed into paying the same price for ever less product (with ever more microtransactions), and I just don't think 343 has anywhere near that required level of faith and good will to pull it off.
That's the trouble with death spirals: the further in you are, the more locked into the feedback loop you become. x.x Wish I had a more optimistic outlook on it, but it is what it is. >.o
I think separating the 2 modes would be a good idea but considering what happened with the Overwatch storymode I’m also losing trust in that idea
Battlepass and cosmetic items make to much money for them to care about pve
Activision has fumbled COD, but nearly as much as Microsoft has fumbled Halo.
I just want both franchises to be great again.
AW 2 was cancelled to make COD WW2 (🤮). AW 2 is in the works again… fingers crossed they treat my favourite COD game’s sequel with respect!
Im curious whether they continue with Mitchel or another character
@brody7714 Where'd you hear that?
Sledgehammer's next game is MWIII, so unless they actually have a plan in place to make AW2 next, we're never getting it.
I'd love a sequel to AW, but I doubt we'll ever get one.
I love how y'all in this reply section just believe leaks without questioning any of them. Why tf would activision want mw3 to come out only a year later XD and aw2 is just a stretch bro.
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I think for most folks, that is too close to MAGA and they are triggered by the phrase.
It makes me wanna weep seeing Halo how it is now. It being the first game I’ve ever played, as well as me being mere months older than the release of combat evolved, it’s like it’s been apart of my life as much as you breathe air. This is like watching your best friend get slowly stripped of life for 22 years
I really do agree with having campaigns as separate experiences would be the best. It would also open the door for Halo to get more dev teams to explore its universe. Ala Riot Forge with LoL.
Another concerning thing with the uncertain timeline of it all is that Steve Downes is 72 years old, soon to be 73. Which could mean he may only have 2 more (hopefully more than that) chances at being chief in a mainline game. So I hope we at least get a good one with a really good send off to chief.
I don't agree that campaign and MP should diverge. MP has always lived off of the mechanics and weapons of the campaign. If they are split, then each one will be having to invent their own weapons and vehicles and we'll end up with completely different items, I think they'll start fighting over actually what the lore is.
After I watched this video, I suddenly remembered Thanos words: "As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be."
343 and Thanos are somehow similar with this line
The difference is that 343 will be crushed by the fans if they can't get the fans to pay more. Halo is ultimately a game who's main audience is ~20-35 years old now, but the devs seem to be caught up in fortnite.
The only reason I ever played Halo was for the Campaign. Whether Co-Op or Solo, it was always about the Campaign for me.
Campaign has always been the biggest draw for me in terms of Halo. It had one of the strongest stories and universe for an FPS and kept me interested long after multiplayer got boring.
Halos story was one of the main things I grew up on and one of the things I love so much, I still play the campaigns to this day. To see these characters come together and fight side by side and how their stories connected was amazing and made me so excited. I hope that our fears don’t come true and we get something soon but idk man I’ve kinda almost lost hope at this point and it’s getting hard to hold on. Your idea with splitting the campaign and multiplayer while I’m not in love with it could work
The saddest part about this is, I liked the campaign for once. I was choppy sure, needs some fleshing out. But it was actually, finally, in the history of 343, going somewhere. I actually felt like for once, I was playing something akin to Halo again. It's just sad to see it get axed so quickly. Halo's campaign built interest in the game for me more than the multiplayer ever did. Such a well told story that I feel like we'll never get again in this trilogy...
Completely agree. Just focusing on campaign and splitting it from the multiplayer stuff sounds like a pretty good idea.
I was so excited for Infinite and the “10 year life plan“ 343 promised us. They said it was going to be filled with content and dlcs and here we are almost 2 years later and we can safely say that 343 CANNOT keep that promise.
I need a weapon
This makes me so sad. Campaign is the greatest feature of Halo. If the games ever die, I really hope they continue the novels because I can’t go without new Halo lore and stories!!!!!
Try and play the entire Marathon trilogy. Each one of the games have better storytelling than Halo Infinite, and those games only tell the story minimally through text and also the environment.
I absolutely agree. At this point, campaign and multi-player shouldn't just be separate teams but i think separated studios. If 343 are committed to multiplayer, we need a group that isn't controlled/constrained by them.
This, absolutely this. 343 fumbled the ball, so why don't we let someone else pick it up. You can't 1v4 a game of grifball if you're bad at the game, you gotta work with your team to win.
Id Software aren't experienced with Halo games but I think they'd do a good job with a dedicated Campaign title, since they've designed far more mechanically complex and faster single-player FPS titles than Halo. Going from designing Doom campaigns to Halo campaigns would be easier than the other way around
Halo 5 showed that too. Campaign was mf ass but the multiplayer was actually solidly good
@@rickygforce4217 How is Doom’s vehicle gameplay? How do AI squad mechanics work in Doom? Do the friendly AI characters in Doom work as well as Halo’s Marines?
@@deriznohappehquite Do 343 themselves even know the answers to those questions? Because as far as I can tell, the hell they don't :D
Honestly not a bad idea splitting campaign and multiplayer. It’s not what most of us want I’m sure, but if it helps release campaigns every 2-3 years that would be incredible.
The slow pace for which 343 is releasing anything I don't think this will make a difference unless you have multiple studios.
@@liampoole8797 343 is not concerned with anything but the Esport side
My greatest hope for Halo Infinite now? Campaign AI in Forge. Let fans create their own campaign maps. Based off the awesome multiplayer maps there are now, I think the kind of campaign levels the fans could make would be epic.
Pretty sure this was a rumored feature awhile back that didn't pan out, and given the technical problems 343 is having with the game it might be a long shot, but I think one day it could happen.
This would be the only way I get back on
That's a good idea
I’m pretty sure 343 is currently working on Forgeable Campaign AI, and it could come Season 5.
Considering the campaign is the best part about Halo Infinite it’s sad that the future campaigns are in a state of limbo. I’ve loved 2 out of 3 of 343’s Halo campaigns. The campaigns are why I am invested in Halo.
Hopefully something is announced soon whether its from 343 or something from another studio under 343’s watch. I enjoy multiplayer and other modes but at its core I play Halo for the story and campaign.
I feel like there is something wrong with the Microsoft gaming devision. How many games throughout the years have been announced and still haven't heard anything about? The ones that come out are with missing features and had some sort of development hell.
It took you this long to realize that Microsoft is bad at video game publishing?
Halo is like a water park, you got the kiddie pool for the people who just wanna splash around, the jacuzzi for the people who wanna hang out, and the lap pool for the people who wanna go hard, then you have the slides for those who are just there to have a good time. (Warowl used this analogy to talk about CS as well)
343 just ripped out the kiddie pool, there is a crater in the water park.
Brave of you to equate the campaign to the kiddie pool
@@Aves_1 Real talk, I was just thinking that.
They've ripped the kiddie pool out, banned you for timing your laps, put sharks in the lazy river and the last half of the water slide isn't in the game yet. Oh and you have to pay extra to wear your own shorts.
Jacuzzi, Lazy River, and the Crazy Slides for Me!
Don’t forget the Cool down Misters
@@Aves_1 it's about as casual as you can get for most people.
If we have to wait till 2027 for another Halo... and the fact it's a serious possibility at this point... my love for Halo can only be abused for so long by Microsoft.
Feel for you, all the other content creators, and everyone who put their time and effort into the franchise only for 343, and namely their hierarchs, to run it into the ground.
I do think we will see good things in the future. All the lay offs and the reshuffling of staff and a new lead, Pierre Hintze - I have faith, I really do. Great video btw!
I never thought Dead Space of all games would get its moment to shine again. Perhaps Halo could have its moment again, just NOT under 343.
Standalone campaign experiences could also be $40, which would make a lot of people happy
For $40 you would need some pretty substantial content though. A few new levels wouldn't cut it. Keep in mind the Dragonborn expansion for Skyrim was like $20 and it had a whole new map to explore with new quests and content. It's pretty much my gold standard for game DLC. That and Blood and Wine for Witcher 3.
@@gamrknight8060 Dying Light had The Following DLC, which provides an entirely new map, new mechanics like the buggy, and a whole continuation of the story.
Infinite's campaign was $60...
@@JJAB91 Shouldn’t have been. Not with free multiplayer
Sony Santa Monica (God of War) managed to deliver 2 blockbuster titles in the span of 4 years, games that are *infinitely* more polished with far greater quality of writing than anything 343 has put out.
I can't for the life of me, figure out why 343/MS are trying to actively kill this incredible franchise.
Ragnarok was pretty mid tbh
@@cheefqueef6494 It can be mid in your opinion but I think it's a popular belief that Ragnarok was a worthy successor to God of War 2018.
And besides, if Ragnarok is to be considered as mid, I don't even know what you call Infinite which took 2 years more than Ragnarok and still managed to sh*t the bed.
It's honestly criminal that a game set on Zeta Halo of all rings turned out to be as barebones as Infinite did.
We need the modders, we need the indie devs, we need SOMEONE to come along and pick up the mantle because it seems that the community has more heart for this than 343.
What really gets me, is that they know how we feel. They see our complaints and hear our voices, they know full well how disappointed and discontent we are. They know how negatively their choices and decisions are received, they’ve heard all the criticisms and know what they are doing is not only unpopular, but unsuccessful. They know they are pushing players away and alienating their core audience
They just don’t care
Or you know… they literally don’t have the personnel to work on a campaign rn due to layoffs from when Microsoft was trying to acquire Blizzard. But yeah it could be your thing too
@@alejandrocarruyo4101 my brother in Christ I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but they’ve been pulling this kind of shit since long before the layoffs
I really fucking hate how so many studios are not even bothering with single-player Story-based Campaigns. These cinematic, replayable, story focused experiences are what makes me interested in buying games at all in the first place....Marathon is coming back, and currently has no single-player story aspect, 343 is neither equipped or interested in continuing the story they left on a cliffhanger...im still probably going to try Marathon because its Bungie, but the idea that "single player games are profitable" from a purely corporate perspective just isnt true if you look at recent games.
but if you buy a non-campaign game you have proven the narrative. They don't need to give you a story to satisfy you, so you've helped make the problem worse
You hit the the nail on the head on this one. Just wished people would listen to fan feedback, we just want the show to go on. I miss Halo in its prime, when we could expect that EVENTUALLY, in just a few short years, the story would continue
I care mostly for the campaign, so i'm with you for two separate products that can maybe also pass data between each other
What's even worse is that Multiplayer, what they've decided to go 'all-in' on, is a SHADOW of its former self.
Like Halo always used to have some major ingenuity or reimgaination of what they previously created. Like Forge World, Firefight, hell we should be at Warzone 4.0 at this point.
But everything we have gotten is just a waterdowned version of something we had in the past.
Idk what will happen but I will always BELIEVE that Halo will return in some way. At least that is what the campaign and the books taught was to always believe.
Thank you for the video. I don't usually comment but something about watching HiddenXperia talk about Halo always makes my day.
Halo as a whole is about to have its plug pulled. I mainly played Halo for the campaign
It definitely makes sense based off the direction they are handling multiplayer. With it being a live service thing, it would definitely be a better business mode to separate campaign and the multiplayer.
The problem with Halo campaigns as well is the fact there’s next to no continuity or cohesion to 343’s Halo campaigns. They haven’t built up anything in the 10+ years because they keep retconning and scrapping key story elements. Not to mention Frank O’Connors legendary Forerunners =/= Humans retcon that pretty much derailed Halo’s lore from Halo 4 onwards.
Would be nice if a new studio made a proper sequel to halo 3. Retcon the whole entire 343i storyline and start fresh
I was mostly okay with the revised lore - provided they BUILT on, and did something, with it.
And the Didact being made a villain was arguably an even rougher idea - especially with how wasted he's been since.
And lots of new lore was set up in Terminals - but not built on, much.
Then the Precursors got added - but are very hard to factor into a simple game narrative.
Ya, it's another reason why I really don't even care all that much about the story anymore
I believe I have a fix.
The Forerunner divide into two main branches. Forerunner evolved on technology and gentic manipulation while Humanity grows spiritual first before relating on technology/ genetic modification. Humanity kept their identity while Forerunner lost themselves relating on the technology, reaching the ending that scientific and biological could push.
The Flood would be creation by the Forerunner on their attempt to cheat death with their composer. The Flood would attack Humanity frist and weaker races like elites, grunts, etc for bio mass before challenge the Forerunner. So after the flood war, Humanity has to rebuild while the remaining Forerunner start their great journey of self discovery.
Remember, Covenant religion on the Forerunner ISN'T a straight up lie, rather a massive misunderstanding what happened.
Y’all gotta stop harping on the Forerunners not being humans thing. Not every OG fan likes the idea of them being humans. Even BUNGIE was split on the idea, so it goes to show that it might not be that great.
I’ve had this thought for a while
I like the idea of 343 developing and supporting multiplayer whilst overseeing another dev building a series of single player halo games
Campaign is so key to the Halo experience. Hoping they aren't completely shifting to multiplayer only going forward
I am very discouraged now, one of the main reasons I was looking forward to Infinite was the 10y plan and how much the campaign and in-game lore would expand, and play all of it with friends in wacky different ways, instead I got a half baked story that was good but with too many open questions and no clear answer or point to it, at the end I still had most of the same questions I had at the beginning of the campaign
I thought infinite was gonna do the destiny thing… would’ve worked perfect for this game.
This video NEEDED to be made! Thank you Luc! I've been keeping a close eye on campaign news for a while and it's only gone from bad to worse and if Halo games stop having campaigns, then 343 will have permanently lost me as a customer. It's what I grew up with and it is the fictional universe I grew up with and adore even more than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings and to have a Halo game without a campaign... that's just not Halo to me. I can't support the bastardization of Halo anymore so I'm done. Atleast until they announce a new campaign. If that doesn't happen, Halo and I are done, or rather, 343 and I. I will always love the Bungie Halo games and will keep playing those till the day I die
I truly feel that even Microsoft is aware that if they ever released a Halo game sans campaign, said game would be a total flop...Halo's campaign is necessary, but it's going to be awhile. Halo is pulling a Mass Effect, we have to wait for awhile now...
@@shadowguy321 That's assuming Microsoft is competent. The quality of all their first party releases these last year beg the differ
@@theunderdog9353 true but this isn't like Battlefield. Halo was built on story content, they'd have to be next level stupid. It would be like EA making a Mass effect game without a story or making it completely linear without any choice or player input whatsoever
Turned 30 this year, hearing these year gaps of 5+ years per release make me feel like I won't get to see the end of the story, or at least, a decent conclusion for our generation, and Halo isn't the only franchise who has this issue, it sucks.
My friend.
It gets easier when you accept the original trilogy as the end of the story with Reach being a nice little throwback treat.
That's the future of gaming unless AI takes over a lot of the game development, studios stop focusing so much on photorealism, or players stop demanding more and more features. Because programing isn't really getting easier, consumers keep asking for more, and publishers are not giving enough resources to deal with all this properly.
@ivanaviNiebla I agree completely I love people like the angry Joe show but people like that bitching about games being 70 are part of the problem your describing. I agree things like 2k or madden shouldn't be more then 20 bucks max but God of war or resident evil remake are easily worth a hundred bucks but video game consumers want to have dozens to hundreds of hours of gameplay and still pay less for the game then a large family would going to the movies
They never intended to "finish" anything, a never ending story never stops selling.
Hell I’m almost 24 and started with halo 3/ odst back in 2008 as a little kid, I already lost interest in gaming and only came back for the infinite campaign, I think for the next halo I’m going to be a father lol
I would be fine with a shared multiplayer between games. Have progression and graphics tied to the each game separately but have a sorta cross game compatibility mode.
I have lost all care for Halo multiplayer, I love Halo campaign and am eager to see what’s next
I think an easy way of consistent campaigns is to do prequel content and let us PLAY the content from some of the books, some insurrectionist war stuff, and maybe more games that involve the fact that we were at war with the Covenant for 30 YEARS. Because in all the mainline games (1-3) we only see like the last couple years of the war
That would be pretty dope, actually.
like New blood and Fall of reach those 2 books should have been adapted into games.
Yep, I've been saying for years that Contact Harvest should have been adapted into a game YESTERDAY.
I agree. We just need more Halo stories.. with other companies that have the power to make something great.
It’s crazy to see halo now from when I played it as a kid
I think the future of gaming needs to go back to the 2 disc feature.
The first disc being campaign and is focused on JUST that. And the other team has the 2nd disc focused on multi-player, special features, theater, forge, and other modes.
Hell, DLC could be on multi-player mode where it's like your spartan in a Spartan-ops style of continuation.
The issue is the question everyone is asking isn't what and when anymore, it's if, and if it is so, how will 343 fail to deliver what they promise again.
I really do think we as a halp community need to speak up about this campaign crap and the things that's going on at 343.
We’ve been pointing 343s BS out for like 10 years now and it’s done nothing
@@AustinH7 Well , I mean it did something . Iconic Halo art style came back , MCC got fixed and etc .
Accepting halo is over is the best thing. Buy if you want but just forget it until it’s released. Accepting star wars is over, marvel movies are over. Moving on feels better than holding on feeling disappointed
I’ll say, you shouldn’t be a fan of brands. You can be a fan of certain people/teams.
I hope we get the Spirit of Fire showing up to rescue UNSC forces from Zeta Halo. That would be a great campaign DLC.
Hell yeah dude, that would be great
They would need to wrap up the entire Ark conflict as well as find a way to get off the Ark now that the way Atriox used is no longer accessible. The Ark conflict is only getting more complicated with the Banished still being a huge threat and the Covenant forces from the dreadnought from the Divine Wind book have also been released. So until they address that huge can of worms, Spirit of Fire isn't magically going anywhere
@@lethalterminus5018 Artiox can, so Spirit of Fire can.
Like halo wars 2 had Artiox trap on the ark, then appear on zeta halo.
That would be freaking amazing, specially if we got to play as Jerome.
Been a huge fan and very avid player of Halo since 2006. Having played Halo 3, Reach, and Halo 4 all day one and seeing Halo now is night and day. It's depressing knowing what Halo WAS like and it is not like that anymore.
One thing I genuinely miss was playing a halo campaign on day 1 with my friends coop. We've done that since Halo 3 when they first had 4 player coop. By the time coop finally came out like 8 months later none of us were interested anymore bcuz we weren't even playing the game anymore cuz the MP was so bare bones.
Your solution sounds good. Personally, I only really care about story, so the campaign is certainly my focus. Multiplayer is occasionally fun every now and then, but I can easily live without it. Of course I know a lot of people do like it, so yeah a split seems reasonable for everyone to win.
It's BEEN on life support, nail in the coffin was the full cancelation of split screen campaign coop. They let down the fans in a big way after YEARS of promising otherwise. Everyone (including myself) thought Joe Staten would save the game, but the opposite was true. Need to scrap it and move on. Hopefully the entirely new team could do better than the excuses we've dealt with for the past several releases.
This... This.... This is so dang tragic😢. I can't believe I'm gonna say this but. RIP Halo. It didn't find the cave to hide in from the glassing.
This takes me back. Growing up I only had PC to enjoy Halo CE, and Halo 2 for windows Vista. Got the opportunity to enjoy H3 down the street at a friend's house and waited many years for MCC to release. All we can do is hope for another miracle.
Imagine a world where Halo Infinite released as a polished, feature-complete title with everything we could want from a Halo game, and every 2 years we get a brand new single player campaign telling an evolving narrative culminating in a grand finale for Master Chief’s story. Just imagine.
I loved the part where Cortana suicided herself after failing to outsmart a space monkey but can wipe out most of the galaxy and control foreunner technology for fun... i still despise the infinite campaign
dont forget it happened off screen
The fact that you didn’t understand the campaign doesn’t mean it’s bad. It had some flaws, but it was about as good as it could get after Halo 5 and how it was received. Overall, there was very much potential for the DLC, but it was all killed or at least postponed by years because of absolutely horrible management.
@@ВікторСидорчук-э1ф the campaign was very flawed. The open world was poorly executed, the best part of the story happens off screen and thru audio logs. The gamer is somehow supposed to sympathize with Cortana even though she committed galactic genocide and authoritarian rule. Nobody knows what the endless are, why even include them in the game. And now it seems like any dlc to continue the lackluster campaign ending isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
343 should just hire you, you compromise with everything and everyone, and bring out good ideas for the problems that are at hand
I'm surprised just how much content this dude manages to squeeze out of Halo I've been watching HiddenXperia for as long as I can remember😂😂 keep up the great work the community loves it!!
I miss the old campaigns. They still are some of my favorite campaigns in gaming. I hope 343 is watching you and take your advice, but sadly I doubt it which is a shame.
What a shame. Infinite's campaign was so good. I loved it and it was the thing I was most hyped for when Infinite came out
It was absolute shit
It was bland.
@@Key_Mind the actual story was good but the world was insanely empty and it dragged the entire experience down by a lot
@@ASPVids The story really isn't that great either when you look at it. It's mostly told through audio logs, holograms, or flashbacks, and hardly has any memorable moments. It didn't make me care for the Banished or Endless (whatever they are supposed to be) and most of the meat of the story was offscreen. Pair this with the empty open world and you have a really unmemorable, bland experience. The only Halo campaign I didn't replay.
@@Key_Mind I agree in that I found the plot itself quite basic but I liked a lot of the character work, especially Chief. He was exactly what I thought Chief would've been like after H3, and Downe's performance was probably the best I've seen from him. That alone carried me through the barebones plot
343 sucks and Halo Infinite is done. They have completely destroyed a great franchise. I actually hope they don't allow 343 to make any more Halo games.
Thank you for using the Halo Wars OST. Such an underrated OST!
Halo is its story for me.
Multiplayer is fun and I’ve spent hours playing it, but imo the thing that always made Halo special was the fact that it consistently told a great story and imo that elevated it above most shooters that were releasing at the time.
The story is the reason I stuck with the franchise even during Halo 5 which I thought told a terrible story, because I loved the lore that was coming out around that time and I was invested in the idea that Halo’s story would get better. And it DID, I liked Halo Wars 2 and Infinite’s story and was excited for the new possibilities an open world campaign with live service additions over time could give us.
That excitement is gone now. So 343 needs to give me a reason to hope again. The thing that would do it is announcing more campaign content.
I've only started playing Halo as I'm a noob but the fact that their not doing a campaign until like ages is hust sad😢
Hey lad its Konrad from the Alex G gig in Liverpool. great seeing you there and keep uploading you iconic legend.
Man this is so frustrating to hear, we literally started to pull out of the ditch we were in, only to be scrambling to get out of what appears to be a deeper one.
The mismanagement, disorganisation and unreliability of the franchise is so fucking saddening to witness. Here’s hoping there is some miraculous switch up to the progress of campaign and doesn’t leave us waiting what feels like a lifetime again.
Honestly i've never seen anyone other than YOU, Actman and Installation 00, who is as devoted as about Halo on YT.
I’ve had faith in 343 for too long now, ever since the anniversary of Halo CE when I was a kid. I’m 20 now, I’m not a kid anymore. Even when infinite was released and my friends would talk down on them as a studio I’d insist on correcting them and highlighting the good things they’ve done. But now I realise that with the amount of time they’ve been given, from the release of Halo 4 to now, they’ve simply not done enough. They don’t care anymore, but for the sake of everyone I really wish they did. We’re told next to nothing, and they’re never certain, which results in us having to literally come up with ideas on what they should/need to do next. If they were fans of Halo like many of us here, they wouldn’t struggle for ideas. They wouldn’t allow overpriced cosmetics. They wouldn’t allow having an incomplete campaign. I get budget and time plays a part in everything, but like I said, they’ve had enough time. I love Halo too much, Halo CE was the very first game my Father introduced me to on the original Xbox. He was a big fan and I used to love watching him play, and when he finally let me play Halo, I used to love playing it with him. It’s something I hold very close to my heart, so to watch it go downhill saddens me. But that’s just me ❤
Just played through Halo CE on Heroic with my 6 year old. Strange that somehow co op campaign just got left behind when I would argue that is the sole reason it became so iconic.
I miss having a solid Halo campaign. Havent really had that since 2012 (yes, 4's campaign was solid).
Halo has always been my favorite series. The memories of playing in my cousins basement will be with me forever. At this point, I’m just content with letting it die. I’ve held out hope for too long that I might experience something close to what I did years ago, but it’s fairly obvious that isn’t the reality. And honestly, I’m okay with that. I’ve come to realize that even if the original team were still making Halo, I don’t think it would feel the same. Sure it’d be fun, but it wouldn’t be what it was. The only thing that could make me feel like I did years back is a time machine. You’ve gotta move on some time.
Well said
I don’t understand how these companies can be so poorly managed.
over managed
Overqualified CEOs and project managers who know how to push profits but have little to no experience with the development pipeline. More project managers need to have started as developers so that they understand the actual development process.
plus 343 are m$ yes men
It’s WILD how modern Resident Evil has come back with several bangs and Halo is just… fading into the dark…
It’s so sad I grew up on this franchise from when I was 6 years old on CE and have followed all the games since. It’s so upsetting to see what’s happening to halo, this franchise shaped a lot of what gaming is today. It hurts this franchise needs a comeback. I’m worried we won’t see any halo story for a while in a game that is, I unfortunately think we might be in a worse spot then we were with halo 5…
The 3 years of waiting for each new halo campaign was torture but man it was worth the wait.
343's hit-and-miss streak enables me to say this, 343 should hire me as creative director. Even a rando on the internet would do a stellar job at this point.
343 finally struck gold with Infinite’s campaign, most people liked what it had to offer. It would really suck if they just bailed on it, but if they just wait 6 years or more to continue it, then I can’t see them just continuing it… I would just be done with the franchise if they bail on the story for the third time in a row.
I think you hit the nail on the head though, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Halo’s main multiplayer platform going forward will be Tatanka, unless Infinite surges in players which I don’t see happening. Whilst Halo gets a Doom Eternal styled standalone campaign experience. I’d be happy with that, if it meant the franchise can get back on track.
At this point I want an mcc community campaign using rejectected shotguns mod with all the Halo Wars vehicles
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Halo Infiniter with the "Halo 4 Leaks" cover art! Woowoo!
Halo has one hope. ONE.
Scrap 343’s story, reboot the series to a post Halo 3 timeline, and start from scratch. Make a PROPER follow up to Halo 3 instead of “let’s make Halo a SOAP OPERA!”
I don’t like dealing in absolutes, but anyone who rejects this is simply in pure fucking denial.
Nobody wants 343’s story, and I Microsoft FINALLY understands that
Great video, but was anyone else super mesmerized by how black Luc's shirt was the entire video? lol