Trying to FIX a Dusty PS4 with No Display
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Hi, this 'trying to fix' video shows me attempting to repair a very dusty PlayStation 4 that is not displaying on the TV. I purchased it for £60 (75$, €66) from eBay.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series.
Many thanks, Vince.
Great repair Vince! I knew it would work!
Cheers Steve :-)
😮
I watch both of yall
The 1 dislike is from the person who owned this PS4 before😂😂😂😂
The other three are the ones who wish they had bought Xboxes :)
I don't think he will miss it that much. He had pretty bad taste in games anyways xD
Must be sleeping in one dusty bedroom lol.
@@robertandruw7647 Dusty is bad but add in "air fresheners" it gets worse. The dust clumps together and becomes tacky / clay-like and retains the scent of the air freshener product. That's why I'm curious to see how the trend of vaping affects consoles / laptops and the like. A guy I worked with recently said he'd spend hours in his room vaping with no open window or other ventilation. After some time he found lots of items in his room had became coated with the vape mist. Cigarette smoke left layers of sticky yellow dust in several laptops I had to repair a few years back - so the potential is there for consoles (or anything ventilated by an internal fan) to get gunked up. If that does happen I'm curious to see if we'll end up ultrasonic cleaning complex parts like heatsinks to get them working effectively again.
The 2nd Dislike is from his mum, who had to fork out more money for a new PS4. :(
Was i the only Dummie who was lookin for "Captain Tape" instead of Kapton Tape? xD
Rumour has it the previous owner was using the PS4 as a hoover...
Apistogramma nah he used it as a towel as well
He used it to clean his hoover
Wells it does have a fan that sucks like a vacuum and makes loud noise. Well not one but several million of them.
@@krisreddish3066 but he should be cleaned it out once in a whilr
Just a pun. I recommend them little air pumps for electronics on Amazon, they work great for keeping a PS4 from thermal issues due to clogging. Got one for like 20$ for my PC and it gets way more use on the PS4. PC has dust filters.
I think that what you do is excellent, but there are very important things in which you have problems because you use too much the heat gun and not the soldering iron (the tip you used to solder the legs of the IC is too thick).
Before removing the solder from the pads with the desoldering wire, you must add new solder and then you can add flux and proceed with the desoldering wire.
These boards need to be preheated to 100c before being subjected to intense temperatures and that allows you to use safer temperatures for the components and avoid problems related to thermal stress, consider buying a PCB Preheating / Desoldering System.
Hi Vince. I've been watching your fix it videos for a while now so when my bluray player stopped taking discs in yesterday I would have normally just chucked it. I thought I'd have a go at fixing it. An hour later & it's clean & working again. Inspirational stuff my man...keep it up
Well done mate, congrats on the fix :-)
Those hand dusters are static charged, to attract dust and hold it, so you shouldn't really be using them on electronics or near them
I'm an electronics hobbyist and I was taught the same thing however our boy here hasn't caused a static discharge at the brush yet. It may happen some day , perhaps during winter when ambient air is dryer but for now...he's rockin it!
You're just being paranoid. People always say vacuums can cause static on electronics but they really don't. Not with these modern electronic devices
@@Howlerss Better safe then sorry i'd say especially when it comes to repairing something, theres nothing worse the ESD damage in the middle of it.
@@Howlerss totally mate been using my hover for years on tech and never had a problem with static 😀
@@JordaNeale honestly it's not an issue promise ya. I can see why people think there is though because so many people have the misconception that they do but if you ask them same people if they've ever seen a vacuum cause static build up and break something they were more than likely say no. I've never read or seen anything in all my years of an incident like that happening
hey Vince i believe the hard drive screw is missing because if i recall the hard drive isn´t supposed to slide out so easily!! by the way great video as always!!
Is missing but won't cause any problems that
oh okay!! thanks
Thanks, I had a spare one so I popped it in at the very end of the video (on the fast forwarding bit). Thanks for letting me know though :-)
no problem always happy to help
AHHH you put the HDMI chip shield on backwards!!! Lucky it didn't short anything.
Haha, well spotted :-) I didn't notice!!! I did wonder why I had a line of solder left at the end. I'm such an idiot. I even offered it up and rotated it to see which way to put it on :-)
My Mate VINCE no problems it’s ok you are not a pro yet.
man. It hurts so much :D
Nanjaed Lol :P
@@Mymatevince As someone who is studying electronics engineering, I absolutely love your videos and you do a great job. School pumps me full of theory and almost ZERO hands on. You show how important practice and hands on , with the right equipment , really is....You have also made me more confident in my repairs and most of all, that it is ok to screw up. Ive learned more watching your videos , then I did at my work Co-Op for school. (or at least helped to assure Im on the right track) Repair is becoming a lost artform and in my Co-op placement 99% of time we just replaced the board. So how else do you learn the "right" way aside from trial and error??...Anyways keep doing you and I'll keep watching.
You got a good deal on that PS4. Seller probably knew it was the chip (notice how it said "HDMI fault" and not "HDMI port fault") and didn't have the equipment/skills to replace it, or didn't consider it worth the time or investment for the extra profit they'd make. You'd think a business seller would have plenty of experience with using a hot air station, but it's possible they just buy broken consoles in bulk, fix the easy ones and sell the rest.
I love your trying to fix videos!
I like that playstation profile pic
@@dedender0726 thanks man!
Wicking the solder is a LOT easier if you put some flux on the wicking braid as well!
Went to comments to check if someone was already commenting this . :)
Agreed. Although the braid often has flux in it I found it's often burned away from when you used the section before.
@@MattP79 ...or it's ineffective because it was exposed to air. I now keep mine in its spool and that in a ziplock bag when I'm not actively using it and the roll has lasted forever without the embedded flux turning into decoration
@@Knaeckebrotsaege Handy to know - thanks! I'll do that from now on too.
Hete Panda yeah course you did, instead of just writing your own comment.
Yes! another console repair from Vince!
Can u link the HDMI contenuity tester?
I think Vince is probably a better person to ask about the continuity tester/repair plug, AFAIK mazarmark5 doesn't use one... I could be wrong, but rarely am lol
@@3absisoRA Is this what you are after? www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhdmi+breakout.TRS0&_nkw=hdmi+breakout&_sacat=0 :)
my dad used to repair computers in the 90s, and i grew up helping fix them, if you think that amount of dust is a lot good god you'd be scarred by the things ive seen hahhahahah
At 41mins 30 secs....i was waiting for your usual jump for joy and overwhelming excitement that we see when you fix something...but i was a bit dissapointed at the hand rub and yeeeeesss this time, your usually way more happy than this sir!!!
Dude like the gordon ramsey of consoles 💀😭
He's a lot less offensive than Gordon Ramsey. I won't watch GR
Funny i just said that and didnt even see your comment till now glad we both agree this man is king of electronics :)
People from ebay shaking their fists in anger at you for fixing their dead consoles 😂😂
ps4 from hell HAHAHA!!!!!!!! that was a good one!!!!
The reason you struggled with reflowing the solder on the pins is probably due to the size of the tip you've got on your iron. It's a bit too wee. A bigger tip will hold more heat. Solder behaves differently at high temperatures too, it can get a bit gluey, so hotter isn't necessarily better. Great job though - you're fearless! Keep learning :D
Have Electronics course this year. And i learned a lot from it, its mostly theory and we have some pratical stuff, but not so indepth. I really get to harden my understanding by watching this videos honestly. I actually understand what you are doing and what you are looking at. Love your videos :)
Watching these video's just puts my ADD at total ease.
Wish I had the tools I'd do the same.
Love the result.
Nice job.
ahh man i wish i knew how to do soldering etc like you. I cant afford to get another ps4 after mine broke i had to bin it
You are reaching that Rossman repair level of expertise, you are already better than me!
The packaging on that ps4 was horrible, I’m surprised it wasn’t damaged in shipping there is no padding.
He said in the video, this was inside a larger box, he didn't show it as it was covered in branding
11:19 anyone notice that first port when he flipped it over? I think LAN, the outer 'tabs' haven't been soldered back on. It looks like someone been at them with wick.
It looked like you put the heat Shield on the wrong way in the end but idk
Yeah, I did, another viewer just mentioned it and I just double checked on the video. Can't believe I did that :-0
@@Mymatevince hopefully address that dont sell or whatever like that lol
On the hot air reflow station. The square tip is used for working on chips just like the one you were working on. The chip can handle the heat needed to melt the solder. The whole board goes through an oven and gets heated up when it's manufactured.
It's a buzz watching you fix the things man, sitting there on the edge of my seat when you turn the item on to see if your fix worked, thanks for the videos.
Kept overheating because you probably need to replace the thermal compound on the SOC
(14:04)
(The paste is later replaced)
Great and entertaining video thanks 👌
Did you have Vietnam-level flashbacks?
EDIT: changed from singular to plural. :P
few things that will help you in the future... add lead solder to the chip pins to make it easier to come off, you had problems wicking because of the old heated non-lead solder, so add new solder and some flux to the braid... its best with those chips to have flat clean pads then tack the corners of the chip with the soldering iron then drag solder ;) and dont forget to get a cheap microscope to see things on a bigger screen to make it easier for you
The reason why the PS4 kept overheating is because there is an heat sensor that if it’s not plugged in the fans will ramp up high but it can’t find the heat sensors so it shuts its self down to protect its self
Thanks for the tip past jenson!
Yet another hugely enjoyable and highly successful fix :o) Great job mate !!!!
Why don’t you just get those ic’s for the HDMI from Digikey in packs of 3 or 5 so it be cheaper and you have them on hand!
You mounted in shield in the wrong position. Hope it doesn't short any components under it.
Cpu gpu thermal paste is probably dried out and if you didn't replace it that will cause thermal issues. I can understand why you wouldn't just to test quickly though
It came from a smokers house. Smoking puts lots of chemicals into the air witch then falls as dust the PS4 sucks the dust in through it inlet vents and get stuck on the heat sink this is bad cause it can lead to the console overheating and result will make the fan rev none stop.
If you do a lot of repairs like this. I can strongly recommend you go on AMAZON and look for a product called *'IT Dusters EG-1000-UK'* Its like a mini leaf blower. I do a lot of PC repairs and always get computers that havent been opened up in 2-3years of operation. The mini leaf blower sorts it all out. All i need to do is take the PC out into the garden, tape all the fans down and give it a few blasts with the mini leaf blower. It is incredibly powerful and has saved me tonnes of money as i no longer have to buy cans of compressed air.
Around 22:15 you indicated you were not sure about the size of the heat attachment to use, so I think the general rule is the larger the chip the larger the attachment will work best, the idea is to heat up ALL THE SOLDER CONNECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME when Reflowing Dry solder joints and or removing Suspect IC's,
Likewise to install one if you can heat all of the connections up in one go Thus the higher the heat the quicker the solder melts, thus the quicker you can apply the cooling "I blow" on the IC once it is installed, therefore the more likely you will halt the inward momentum of heating really early, bare in mind surface mount chips are designed so that the ceramic like material hinders the transfer of external heat..
I had no idea Russell Brand was doing console repair videos on UA-cam. 😳 😂 Just playing... great video!
Since when did you get 360 thousand subs jheeze bet you’ll get a million by the end of the year
I love your channel
Also btw nice accent :-)
Can someone help? My PS4 is stuck on safe mode, everything I try won’t work hElP :(
Great job. Just thinking, if as you say that chip is a common failure, then I would have added thermal paste between the chip and the metal plate just to get it running a bit cooler.
Iv lost one of the
Metal prongs that sit in with the long screws that hold the power unit in, so only 1 is touching the metal plate on the cover, is that gonna cause a problem?
You are not supposed to hoover electronics because of static discharge. Putting your static dust catcher on the board while you clean the casing kind of negates all those good intentions...
Haha, yeah I did wonder whether the dust catcher could also hold static. I will keep that away next time :-)
Compared to what you did one month ago, you are slowly becoming a *Professional*
I wonder if this is a good product, a cover for all the cables that slots on the back of the PS4, it covers up all the cables until you press the button.
I mean you could use a little flaps and they probably won'tbreak off because they're on the back of the console but I don't really like flap cable covers.
Excellent job from you. But, before remove the video chip to check the short,
why not remove the smaller SMD parts first? It is easier isn't it?
Don't know if it's a silly question but why don't you apply leaded solder before you clean the pads. My idea there is that the leaded reduces the melting point reducing the stress during the wiping.
I don't have a heat gun so when I desolder I usually mix in leaded before I try anything.
Like removing the shield adding more solder sometimes makes it easier because there's more mass to pick up the heat
You seem to be getting quite good at this. Well done
You Need to put therjmal paste in between of the main chip and the metal. Else it will overheat.
Out of all the drama filled videos on UA-cam, it's refreshing to watch your channel which hosts none of that nonsense 😀
The console is overheating because there is not thermal paste on the heatsink, you should have cleaned it off the chip and applied new paste to it.
Good, you added it later.
Yea I thought the same. He didn't show himself reapplying it. He mostly works with older consoles that don't get as hot. Or the Switch which doesn't need the entire heatsink off for minor repairs. Curious if he has worked with PCs much. I'd never dream of reusing my old thermal paste but I know gamecube modders do it all the time.
@@EvilTurkeySlices Too much. Way too much.
Wow you are so good at that stuff wish I was, did you take a class or something?
If you don't know guy called Voultar, I suggest to check out his tips on soldering.
Love watching your fix videos. Great work.
carpets are bad news for electronics...
A new guy to repairs knows more than a hole building of ppl analyzing the problem 😂
I'm amazed by the fact the chips and boards still work after all that heat, I've never looked into what the components on boards and what the actual board is made of but it must be some damn tough stuff to be able to withstand so much heat lol. It's also interesting to see that it seems to be the norm to just put a small pea sized thermal paste on a chip now, back when I was learning how to build computers we were always told to put a small amount on the chip and then spread it on the chip before attaching the heatsink. Oh how times have changed lol
i wish u were my nighbour cause fixing thing is my hobby to.....................oh well
Great job brother! I love seeing awesome outcomes ....that feeling of accomplishment and bargain mixed together 😂 is a wonderful thing.
It’s good saveing PS4 from the wasteland
I've watched many of these videos now and it seems that the hdmi chip has always failed. Maybe this was a design flaw with the originals?
Flowing air in to a hose will cause a large static charge ...If you ground strap the nossel you should be ok . Make sure it has a true ground and the charge can not build up .
I love the reaction when it works, especially on all your videos! I think we all have the same reaction when we fix something and it works!
Open that box a little more dangerously please with those scissors
Hello vince can you please make easy way to clean the fan for Playstation pro
vince. buy some low temp solder. solder it over the chip then remove it. keeps chip removable even after like 10 seconds. leaves u loads of time
You killed me when you said "PS4 from Hell " 🤣
You need to put new compound so it won't over heat
He did. He used Arctic Silver.
The things your calling "little things" are filters
I love coming away from these videos having learnt something :) testing the filters for shorts and then going back to the chip is simple but genius.
Hats of to you sir, you have a real skill. In the future if you ever need broken consoles to have a go at fixing for a video, I regularly come across them and I’ve got a small stockpile of both retro and current generation consoles and handhelds.
Thanks Tom :-)
good fix vince............ i really enjoyed it ......thankyou
Ew why is it so dirty mate my ps4 look like new only a little of dust in the sides and in the fan ewww
You should get a pre heater. They are on ebay for about 50-100 Euro. That way you don't have to go as wild with the hot air gun.
A regular old cooking oven set to 200F (ish) works great when a preheat pad isn't available too.
Vin buzz off all your vids m8.Sat here watching for the 46 mins wife thinks i'm mad haha. Keep them coming.From the Wirral ;)
Thanks mate :-)
I really like your videos and I don't mean this offensive.
The metal shield is mounted incorrectly. First you had it placed correctly next to it's designated position but then you rotated it 180° and soldered it on. 44:45 and you see what I mean. Compare with 13:44
Also one question: Why is hoovering bad?
Thanks, no offensive taken. I am always up for being corrected when something is wrong because then we can all learn :-) Another viewer mentioned it and I watched the video back and seen it. Can't believe I put it on wrong!!!!!!!! I think hoovering is bad (or I have been told it is bad) because it can build up and release static electricity which can fry a chip(s)
Cheers :-)
ESD is why using a vacuum cleaner can be bad. Static electricity forms at the nozzle as the air is drawn in. When the nozzle comes into contact with something with a different static potential, there be a discharge as the charges balance out. If that discharge occurs into /across a microchip the thousands of volts that flow can cause permanent damage to the chip. The chip may not work at all or not work correctly. On circuit boards that have peripheral connections such as headphones, HDMI, USB etc.. you'll often find a TVS, a Transient Voltage Suppressor. The TVS will be in the circuit path between where a peripheral plugs in and the microchip to process the signal. The TVS stops the sudden voltage spike (often by transferring it to ground) so prevents the microchip it protects from being damaged.
the blue light just going on and off is the blue light of death i think
I use an electric leaf blower to dust out systems and desktops. Works perfectly
Isn’t it kinda crazy I actually saw this one when looking through eBay ay leafy I think anyway
next time u put paste onto a die this size just put half the amount u did
And furthermore you're supposed to have thermal paste replaced on the CPU if you remove the motherboard
Geht ohne alles direkt kaputt
Und überhitzt dauerhaft
+My MATE Vince Oh my goodness!! When I seen all of that dust my allergies went insane, thats so disgusting!! Great video Vince!!👍👍👍
You have inspired me to start doing more repairs, i tend to stay away from chips replacements but will start doing them now. Thanks Vince your a legend of a man!
Wow I thought that chip was big until u zoomed out 😂😂
Thought it was the same size as a matchbox and then the bus sized toothbrush head appeared 😂
Nice work. I love that moment when powering a device back on after making repairs and it works as it should.
Can you tell me why you are not supposed to hoover electronics. I used my dyson to clean out the dust from my ps4pro fan. Had to use cotton swabs for the most part but the hoover was good to get most the crap out the holes an any loose bits. I’m assuming it’s the main board that shouldn’t be hoovered as it can pull parts off it or disconnect parts?
Hi, I think it is because it can cause a static charge which may damage the chips. I am not sure if it is likely to happen but I have to mention it in the videos otherwise I will get a ton of comments about it :-)
One Problem, why you keep getting bridges, is, that youre putting the solder on the solderiron's tip. Dont Do this. If the solder gets too hot, its draging across everywhere. Put the tip on the first contact, and while adding Little bit of solder, drag the tip across the contacts. :)
There's nothing wrong with that technique providing there's sufficient flux on the board. See Dave Jones' (EEVBlog) tutorial on drag soldering. The issue is likely that the ground plane was dissipating too much heat from the solder iron tip and causing the solder to drop in temperature and solidify.
47 mins videos work ! Love the 5th ! Thanks for doing all this for us :)
Hey Vince can you convert an HDMI signal to ethernet and then transfer it wirelessly across the house using a router and a receiver? If it is possible can you do a video on it please?
Hi, you can do it wired on HDMI over IP. But I think wireless may not be quick enough for it, maybe a product exists but I haven't seen it. I haven't actually looked for it though. I did a video a while back on HDMI in different rooms and I got it to work over Powerline adapters so maybe this could be an option for you depending on the electrical wiring in your home :-)
soldiring those groundplains id say you need an iron with more power. You go hotter to compensate but thats not the best solution. Id recomend a stronger Iron (I use the ts100 its great!)
He can probably get away with what he has, he just needs a tip with more thermal mass. But I do agree a better soldering iron would be better solution.
When it overheated i think it was because you hadn't replace the thermal paste yet. it was simply not enough of it.
I really appreciate that you say a lot of the small details like the temperature of your heat gun and stuff like that. I watch a lot of tech videos and I'm often left with questions but I'm never left hanging with your videos. Found your channel recently through TronicsFix and I love the content, almost instant sub.
Yeaaaaaa... Spread that flux. Spread it gooood.
Please leave a eBay link to this seller I like to buy one to 😁
There is one thing I always think of, when someone is using flux, quoting Louis Rossmann "The bigger the blob, the better job" 🤣
Also when you use flux and hot air, the chip magically positions itself on the pads 🧙♂️
Did you really put on the shield the wrong way 🤦♂️ But as you always say, we should see this as entertainment, and that was entertaining, cause I almost shout at the screen at 4am in morning 🤣
Louis my man!! Absolute legend
i realize everyone learns from their experience (and i know you did when watching later vids where you remove the chips)... but when i saw the part you used the iron to resolder those pins on chip all i heard in my head was "murder!" :D. anyway nice vid as always (even the "murdeR" part :) ).
I got a xbox one for 50€. with Controller and hdd fault. should be fixable easy.
Ok Vince this is my second video of yours I’ve watched. I’m hooked. I have subbed and now it’s time for a mymatevince marathon!!!! Keep up the awesome work my friend! That’s a big hello from Texas!