It is 100% my headcannon that the only reason we dont see Toph learn/use lava bending is because A) she never needed to learn it, and B) volcanoes are too afraid of her to erupt while she's nearby
Mine's always been that she never used it because she couldn't see it. She said that her vision was fuzzy while in sand, which is still earth, just small. Now make that a liquid. Probably harder to see with seismic sense. Though she could bend mud, so maybe I'm wrong.
@@jacobcrumpton4643 she could learn it if she observed Bolin. Her seismic sense allows her to exactly sense what happens to the earth. Plus, Toph at her old age is more like Iroh, where she's more dangerous than in her prime.
@@Hargazer she would need a parent with fire bending and another parent with earth bending since that’s the ONLY cases we ever see lava bending (in bolin and in Sun, a kid from the comics). Ghazan’s parents are unknown but it’s safe to say it’s the same case as the other two unless he’s Sun’s son which I wholeheartedly believe lol but yeah nah Toph can’t lava bend unless her mum or dad was secretly fire nation 😅
I think people forget how immediately Toph picked up on anything. She learns Sandbending within about an hour of being in the desert. Like, what, three months later, she's making detailed recreations of the upper ring of Ba Sing Se. Bumi may have had more raw power, but Toph was so instantly-versatile.
100% agreed. He also left out how she literally bent space rock lol. It could have completely different earth elements since it’s from space but that’s a rabbit role
Honestly her attention to details is so stunning, sure she can bend like absolutely no one's business, but she can also sense heartbeats and who remembers what else enough to tell when someone's lying Crazy stuff
Can we get some respect on Monk Gyatsu’s name, bro took down like 30-40 sozin enchanced fire benders before he bit the bullet. Bro was waiting for the opps to pull up, that pacifism was a front
I think a feat not talk about in katara is that SHE CAN MOVE IN ICE. She froze herself and azula in their final battle and chained her to the ground that impressive.
Facts and honestly I do believe she blood ben without a full moon as well cause I believe while she was looking for her mother's killer she did it without a full moon but I could be wrong
I think Toph's mastery of "seismic sense" may be the reason she's able to master and/or develop all the other forms of earth bending because it allowed her to "feel" the earth better and allowed for greater levels of control over earth.
@@ATLA99 That's exactly why she's able to do that. When Toph first described to Aang how she "sees" things she perfectly points out an ant colony in her garden. That's a level of sensitivity that can only be matched by the real-life LIGO instruments (look it up it makes sense).
@@voidmystic00also I think that in one episode of Korra she tells her daughter that she can "see" her from the swamp all the way back to republic city, that the is pretty sure she can see better than anyone else. Which honestly makes Azula's ability to lie even more impressive as Toph could'nt sense even the slightest change within Azula
Him talking about Iroh and his travels makes me think about how much we NEED that as a show. Iroh is easily one of the most pivotal and beloved characters of the ATLA universe and I think his story is one that needs to be told on screen.
I didn't think he think he actually traveled, I thought he said he studied the other elements, as in reading in a library. I mean their were no airbenders to visit, the south pole had no benders, and the north pole was on paranoid lock-down, all earth benders in occupied territory were sent to labor camps and he got caught by Jet in less then a month of hiding in the Earth Kingdom, Jet's not going to be the only paranoid person in the Earth Kingdom and Iroh is just not cautious enough to get by for long periods of time as called out by Zuko. All the while he was the older brother, war hero, and former crown prince and Ozai just took the throne, I imagine Ozai wanted him close to home to keep an eye on him so he didn't potentially start plotting a coup. Not to mention the tight timeline with only a couple of years between Iroh's son dying, Zuko being around 10, and starting his spiritual awaking and Zuko being banished at 13. 3 years isn't alot of time to travel the world without a coal powered ship, flying bison, or that coal powered train thing that Azula used. And unless I miss remember didn't he just run a tea shop after the war, so no travel? I think a show focused on him being a relentless conquer taking over the Earth Kingdom 1 town at a time, strolling though destroyed homes, dismissing casualty reports as acceptable losses, and rounding up civilians to send to labor camps for the glory of the fire nation as he sought to be the first ever to take Ba Sing Se by force would be a better way of showing Iroh's growth from affably evil to truly redeemed.
Toph is no surprise. It feels like her scenes are her reminding everyone that she's the best Earthbender of all time, then proving anyone who doubts her very wrong. The other half is the cast realising how useful Toph is and being thankful that she's on their side.
@@KaiserReb Kuroshio wouldn’t be able to metal bend the fans even if she used them. The only disadvantage Toph has is Air. If Kyoshi is only using air bending then yeah. And probably fire bending too as she can’t tell the attack is coming towards her. But with water and earth she would be able to counter attack. It wouldn’t be a fair fight if Kyoshi is using all four to fight Toph so going on earth bending alone, Toph is still the greatest earth bender of all time.
Toph - Greatest of all time in basic Earthbending; entirely mastered 2 sub-styles of Earthbending within a short time of even learning they existed; invented a whole new sub-style of Earthbending on her own and was never surpassed in it. Toph is the GOAT, no question
I've always wondered just how lethal airbenders could be if they hadn't chosen the path of pacifism. If the style had been cultivated differently I feel like the airbenders would be an absolute force to be reckoned with. It's hard to defend against someone ripping the breath out of your lungs or creating a vacuum over your head, combined with their speed and agility
Keep in mind that when it comes to Toph's seismic sense, it's said that by the time of Legend of Korra, she can simply stand on the ground and tell you where anyone is at any time so long as she knows who you're talking about. In other words, Toph as an old lady can see an entire planet just by planting her feet on it. Although we can't forget that that not only did Toph and the Badger Moles have seismic sense, so did Aang.
I still feel bumi beats toph. Causing a minor earthquake would be like a flashbang to toph. So then she would be completely blind. And when bumi took back his city, he was tossing buildings from their build point at mach speed without using much effort. Plus he is a mad genius so he could fight around tophs strengths
@Tharles Chornburg im sorry what? Each and every earth bending move creates a small earthquake.... why would you think that would flashbang toph instead of giving her 4k vision? Also, toph moved the entire staircase of the royale bah sing se palace, wich is multiple buildings worth of earth. Let alone toph HOLDING UP THE ENTIRE WAN SHI TONG LIBRARY FILLING WITH SAND... Wich would be like holding up almost the entirety of omashu
Do you guys remember when Bolin was talking to Toph about the fact that he could lava bend and she told him that he was pretty talented because not every earth bender could use lava bending. I think the way she said it was basically telling us she had the ability as well. Maybe I'm to much of a Toph fan and its getting to my head but I do believe that Toph can lava bend as well...
I read it the opposite way. Toph is not easily impressed, so for her to remark that he might have some talent indicated, to me, that he could do something even she couldnt do. However, as a Toph fan myself, i will join your head cannon that Toph can lavabend because i like it
@@ATLA99Could be that she’s impressed and COULD use it as well but she just doesn’t personally like it over Metal and Earth bending. Kind of like how Airbenders don’t like taking lives and wouldn’t just sap someone’s breathe away she might not prefer using it herself since it’s more prone on destruction and such. Could be part of that head canon, who knows.
Another rare style, Sozin was shown using a bending style we never saw again: Heat Bending. During the Eruption that killed Roku, Sozin was shown bending the Heat out of Lava to cool it. That temperature change is insane. Also, hearing Nick say Kuvira's name hurts. EDIT: I've clarified a couple times in replies, but thought best do so here since so many people keep saying the same thing: I'm not talking about heating things up, like Iroh with his cold tea or his handcuffs, or Zuko's self-heating to survive in the North Pole. I'm talking about a Fire Bender *taking away Heat*, which is antithetical to Fire Bending itself. We never see any other Fire Bender cool something down.
Small correction. Roku could and did bend the lava coming out of one volcano. It was when the second volcano started erupting that he started to struggle.
Yeah and also roku was weakened since he was breathing the gas while that guy was far from it and in his avatar state, roku in avatar state would’ve done same but its easier to explode volcano than stopping it
I am unsure if that was Roku bending the lava directly, not saying he is not. I think he may have been channeling a different avatar to lava bend, because he was only able to bend lava after entering the avatar state.
@@davidkeller7031it’s not that he’s channeling a new avatar, it’s just that you can only bend more than one element at a time by using the avatar state. He had to use fire and earth in order to do it.
@@Protogv 1. No, there's no evidence to show the avatar state is needed to bend multiple elements at once-easy example is snow using water and wind to put out the fire from the meteor that was used in sokka's sword 2. Fire has nothing to do with lavabending, it's an earthbending technique
What I really loved about Toph inventing metalbending is that when we see it the show uses a similar visual to her seismic sense, implying that she found the impurities through it. This just adds on to her disability being her strength. She's the one who invented it because she was the only one who could've found the impurities.
There was a technique overlooked. Korra goes to the fire temple and meets a healer that scans her body in a fashion similar to water healing. I know it only on one scene and we have no info on it, just wanted to point it out cause it gets forgotten all the time.
Alsooooo the acupuncture we see in the metal city!!! It was able to heal mental state in a way that is inhuman so it must go past just normal acupuncture and is technically a healing sub bending
Kyoshi also used Earthbending to slow down her aging so she was able to live 230 years which is in itself a kind of healing. So really just airbenders are left out
One thing to add to iroh: he's the only fire bender I can recall that's ever extinguished someone else's fire. When he caught Zhao's foot by surprise he put out the flame that Zhao was gonna fire at Zuko.
@@HighVonte I wouldn't consider that extinguishing. She redirects it and it fades away. Iroh caught the foot middle of the blast and put it out immediately.
I know a lot of people say that Ozai is the strongest firebender and that the creators confirmed him to be the strongest, but I think in reality the strongest in atla is Iroh. I mean he has feats he’s done before we really see how strong he is in later seasons. I simply think he doesn’t have that urge to destroy and rage to fuel his firebending, so he many not come off as strong.
@@ningmushii I agree, tbf we only really see Ozai fight during the comet and Iroh very rarely goes all out. In fact he never really did the entire series so it's hard to say who is for sure more powerful. But imo if they were to fight, Iroh would clear, Aang could have straight up killed Ozai with redirecting lightnight but chose not to, Iroh would call out Ozai for not mastering the basics xD.
4000 years ago, Air benders were actually able to fly like Zaheer as we saw in the Beginnings eps in Legend of Korra book 2... However, lore states that many generations after, these Air Bending Monks grew exceptionally close to Air Bisons (nothing wrong in that)... But in order to fly freely one must severe it's connections to its Earthly tethers...which Air benders couldn't get rid of due to their close bonds with these Bisons...
My head canon is now that Toph doesn't lava bend because of the incident with Zuko burning her feet. She felt the heat once and decided it wan't for her, so lava bending was never something she was interested in. Not because shes afraid, but because of pure uninterest.
I believe it is mentioned that lava bending needs both earth and fire bending ability, thus Toph (with only earth bending lineage) can never do it but Bolin (whose father is earth bender, and mother is a fire bender) can.
Toph is interested in lava bending. In the comics Toph actively seeks out Lava bending when she first felt it from afar and even took the lavabender under her wing. But yeah, I don't think she could have bent lava because of the lack of innate ability.
Ooh ooh! Seismic sense feat that no one ever talks about (including Nick): during the Gaang’s battle against the Dai Lee for Ba Sing Se, Toph jumped off Appa’s back. Upon landing, she was able to IMMEDIATELY send BOULDERS flying at the enemies. Meaning that it takes less than 1 second for her to sense her surroundings from a great distance and determine exactly where everyone is to fight back. UNMATCHED.
I think for best water bender in TLOK is actually Ming Hua. Similar to Toph being blind, Ming Hua not having arms means she had to adapt in a way to use her element without that aspect to it that which is really important to bending itself, weve only seen a handful of others bend without their arms. Ming Hua also tends to use water from other water benders to her advantage, making her literally impossible to deal with from a water bending standpoint, and earth and fire benders have a rough time with her as well because her water bending is so versatile. The only way they were able to beat her was with lightning bending, but i think without that she beats everyone from TLOK
Are we gonna ignore that Yang Chen can create a vacuum? Literally sucking out all the oxygen not just around someone’s head but an entire room. Or Kiyoshi’s near immortality through earth bending? Also she too can lava bend at least in the avatar state when she created her island
@@King_TurtleII nope its an advanced technique aang never would have learned. the vacuum move can kill anybody within 9 seconds, completely nullifies fire and combustion bending, etc. its quite impressive tbh
@@gregorymandel979 ye that's a bit different to yangchen's technique, which literally removed all air from the surroundings as opposed to just deoxygenating a specific individual.
Something I want to point out that puts Aang a step farther above all of the other airbenders, even more than he already was, is his conversation with the air nomad avatar before him, Avatar YangChen. When speaking, she tells him that he cannot achieve spiritual enlightenment and will have to sacrifice his own spiritual needs for the needs of the world. I take this to mean that Aang as a child has almost pushed his spiritual capabilities to their limit and could have pushed farther and achieved what would later be accomplished by Zaheer and Jinora if he was able to gain full access to his spiritual potential.
That's a very good point. Being the Avatar honeslty limits how far Aang could go with airbending. Aang would never be able to fly because as YangChen says he cannot sever his worldly ties as his duty as the avatar is to the world.
@@DillyHDTechnically... He can. His duties as the avatar are to the spirit world. The avatars can forget about their physical responsibilities if they want to. Like Avatar Kuruk who is considered the worst Avatar because he did nothing to help other nations but spend all his time killing spirits(Personally I think he might have been the most powerful avatar yet).
i like that as the bending masters get older, their way of bending also changes. They go from doing hard throws and movements to having more fluidity and finesse. They are actually bending their element.
Jinora is definitely the pick for spirit bending 100% but her tatoos at 11 (which for sure makes her a genius) are also due to a lack of teachers/lack of other people to master air bending. Definitely don’t want to take anything from her she’s 10000 a genius just want to contextualize cause Tensin definitely needed another air bending master to help him with the redevelopment of the airnomad society
she's just different from Aang. Willing to bet that passing down an entire culture to the next generation from memory is extremely hard. Both got the requirements for the tattoos but Jinora got the slightly watered down version that was likely recalled mostly from memory and recorded remnants from the other temples. But for Aang, he had almost everything, all the information and various teachers, structured learning, peer reviews and the greatest Airbender in the world as his mentor. The training and curriculars were probably easier to come by but harder on him. Tensin even mentioned how Jinora wasn't ready for her tattoos but she did technically fulfil the requirements of her time period. Its like our current schooling system, plenty of people passed the highschool exam but if you looked at some of the tests from years ago some of the requirements were harder back the. Like a math test someone showed seemed harder than it is now. Its like they had to lower the grade level
Technically Aang never actually finished all the stages of air bending mastery iirc. One the the ways to become a master is to create a new bending technique which both jinora and aang did.
@@jameswillemsen2609 who did not complete their training? because you said Aang but said he and Jinora completed their training. DO you mean someone else? Also, I may have to look up what Tenzen invented.
Jinora completed her training and was qualified to be a master. Tenzin actually didn't want to make her one initially because he was worried for her, even though he knew she was ready. He had to come around to it and accept she was more grown up and mature than he was ready for. They had a whole father daughter heart to heart moment where he says all this.
Honestly, best lightning bender title should be given to Azula. After the series in the comics--which are canon--Azula's lightning bending really did improve to insane levels. She's able to redirect lightning, make spheres of lightning that she can eject (similar to a rasengan but bigger), she can shoot lightning without charge (as Ozai did, but instead she doesn't have to do Ozai's "fell swoop movement" so it's practically instant generation), and she can shoot multiple streams of lightning at once, so instead of Ozai's 2 streams, one from each hand, she's shown to shoot 5 with one . She's definitely the greatest lightning bender in the whole franchise. Ozai can't even redirect lighting, how can he be considered the best if he can't do a basic counter. I would honestly even put Mako above Ozai in lighting bending💀.
day of black sun, ozai was a kilometer underground and still popped one instantly. if he saw or thought of ejecting compressed lightning, he'd absolutely be able to right away
@@nirgunawish But does he? Or is he ever shown to? No. Lol that's not how feats work buddy. You can imagine whatever you please, but until it's shown he doesn't have the skill, period.
will point out that her lightning ALSO becomes laughable weak in those same comics. People get hit with it at point black range and are back on their feet in a couple minutes. Not that she isn't an incredible lightning bender, she is the only person we ever see who CAN do this, but it isn't as impressive as you're making it sound.
I think you can't ignore how powerfull ozai is at lightning bend just because he didn't learn to redirect it, that's not how an analysis work, azula's instant lightning also barely causes damage in the comics, while ozai's were redirected by zuko purposedly at his feet so it wouldn't kill him. We see in korra that while that fire beding gangster was losing his bending because of amon, the lightning turned to flames, which got smaller and then desappered, wich shows lightning bending works as concentrated fire, so ozai doing it as the sun appears is really impressive, I think korra contradicts the original series with how bending works, just ike the comics, but it is also canonical. The novelization of the final fight (canonical by the way) also shows that ozai's lightnings are really concentrated, so they are more powerfull than they size appears
I’d argue that for lightning bending alone, Mako is better than Ozai. He uses lightning for his job regularly, and also the fact that Mako was able to do it while he was being bloodbent by Amon. Most other lightning benders we’ve seen always needed some sort of wind-up in the form of stances to prep the lightning, even Ozai, but Mako didn’t.
i won't agree because in atla lightning bending was kept a royal family secret hence no one other than azula, ozai and iroh ever used it in day to day life. in lok most lightningbending takes a very short time to recharge but the impact is also pretty harmless. like when mako strikes lightning at amon when he was about to take away bolin's bending it surely made an explosion hitting the lights and wires on the stage but literally no one got hurt from it not a little bit. the same kinda goes for every time we see someone in lok use lightningbending. it's more widespread, but it's weaker. while ozai, iroh and azula's lightning does take longer to recharge it's way more dangerous and deadly. azula was able to kill aang and nearly kill zuko and iroh with her lightning, while zuko barely kept his ground redirecting ozai's. so yeah i'd say lightning is easier to learn and faster to generate in korra but it's way more powerful in atla
Flight is a technique like seismic sense but is not a subbending category. Also. Anng was able to spirit project in the 1st season of avatar already. He meditated and went to the spirit world several times. We didn't realize it was spirit projection then but that's what it was.
also Aang was the one that gave korra her powers back, he wasn´t taking the body of the avatar of the moment, he was interacting with it as a spirit, something that we never saw again from another avatar
I don't think she can I'm pretty sure lava bending is only possible for fire and earth benders (avatars) or the child/descendant of an earth and fire bender ie Bolin (only one whose parents are known) I believe they're earth slash fire bending which is what lava bending is
@@raven1436 you’re right about the lava benders having fire and earth bender parents, in the comics toph meets the first lava bender we ever see a kid named sun, whose parents were fire and earth benders. I also have a suspicion he’s gazhan’s (lava bender in the red lotus) dad since the ages would add up and he could’ve inherited lava bending directly
Yeah, another thing of Aang doing cool stuff is when him and Katara were saving the village from the factory by destroying it he metal bent the floor up and down to destroy some of the machines
I think Yakone is better than Amon considering he bloodbent an entire courtroom of people with his mind without a full moon, and those people included peak adult Avatar Aang and peak adult Toph. Pretty sure Katara was there too
tbf, there isn’t really much to imply there is a way to resist blood bending/react to it so you can avoid/resist it that I can remember being mentioned. At most maybe the avatar state can resist it but there’s nothing to suggest blood bending Aang would be any harder than anyone else. Especially depending on what he did to all those people(for example, it’s easier to incapacitate through making the blood rush to certain parts of the body than physically control them)
@@hephsforge9236 if your waterbending is stronger than the blood bender you're immune. that's why katara resisted hama, its how amon resisted his brother and its how avatar state aang resisted Yakone. im not sure if there's a way for a non water bender to resist though, unless they can fight back without their limbs like toph, bumi, combustion benders ect
Disappointed Ming Hua wasn't mentioned cause I think she is the best pure water bender by far. She has the Toph buff where she uses the element as an extension of herself. Katara still wins for the best well rounded water bender of course cuz of healing and blood but I honestly think Ming Hua edges out Katara in just Water bending.
i also think shes one of,if not the best ice benders. what makes her really noteworthy as a bender is because,not only the close dependant relationship she has with water,but the fact that shes badically doing it all with her mind....with her thoughts she creates arms,and manipulates them to mimic the hand gestures...not to mention she can cantrol as many as 8 appendages simultaniously with no effort...that much dexterity with limbs whtat arent even hers must require rediculess concentration.
I will say that with naruto he is a pri, but with ATLA and LOK sometime he isn't as strong. Ming hau definitely should have had an honorable mention, and he forgot ice completely.
Not really. Kya wasn't specially trained in combat and was still landing hits. Katara's a beast and Ming Hua would get dogwalked like Tenzin did Zaheer.
@@sednanamaka341 She was Katara's daughter and used a lot of high level water techniques. I think it's safe to assume she received water bending training from Katara and the White Lotus. The difference between Tenzin and Zaheer is apt, but I think it'd be the other way around. Ming Hau and Tenzin both had a stronger connection to their respective element, the former because it helped her get around and the latter because he carried his father's legacy. Besides both Katara and Tenzin have been hit and lost fights as well, even against inferior benders.
I still think avatar yangchen was one of the strongest airbenders after reading her book. She could suck the air out of entire rooms to suffocate people.
I think that Jinora having spiritual projection might be the result of harmonic convergence and the fact that spiritual connections were heightened all across the world. Yes, she’s a genius and has great spiritual connection, but she kinda had a boost.
Great list! I would consider Mako for best Lightning Bender because he was so natural at it, he zapped Amon while being Blood bent. Also, his sacrifice play of shooting continuous lightning at the spirit vine power core inside the Colossus was pretty gnarly.
i would just like to add kyoshi to the earthbender list cause she manage to create kyoshi island by herself, well yeah technically she used both airbending and earthbending to make that island.but still managing to seperate the island is pretty amazing.
It's crazy how you could've easily referenced how good the Avatar series is without shitting on something else. Could've started productive conversation, but chose to be toxic. Idk why this isn't a insecurity more people have.
Well one guy spreads boruto sucks and then the norm all Jump in the bandwagon but I will admit that I hate boruto because I heard there was misogyny despite knowing I should have watch first before making a decision but I hate long series
Also Jinora got her tattoo at 11, but it’s part of the plot that she probably should’ve gotten them sooner but Tenzin refused to acknowledge that she was ready
I think Lavabending is a Genetic Ability only possible with children born of the union of Firebender and Earthbender Bloodlines. Given the hundred year war, those unions became rare.
Firebending and lightning bending are forms of energy manipulation. Just like how water bending and airbending have spiritual categories, it makes sense for fire to have one too.The reason we haven't seen this often is because most firebenders are just about throwing fireballs and some small blasts
Don’t forget Toph also did something that most Earthbenders can’t: she learned fluid Earthbending. Most Earthbenders keep the Earth as solid masses when they bend, Toph when she was a Granny training Korra showed she could bend mud as a fluid plus when she fled from those guys after learning metal bending and trapping them in their own cage she did more fluid earth bending. Only one other Earthbender known could do this: Yun from the Kyoshi novels who could turn stone into liquid (not lava like actual cool to touch liquid stone) and back like a waterbender does with water and ice
Iroh was so extra to fire blast the Walls of Ba Sing Se during Sozin's Comet when literally Bumi (the guy who topple an entire presumably iron statue) was there.
@@saraautio5693 Lava Benders that Were not Avatars, was one of the first things I said. Because here's another fun fact, all avatars after the first one to do it could Lava Bend. Through access to the avatar state, which confers the abilities of every past avatar to the one using it. Because If we're being honest even roku Used the power of the avatar state to bend the Lava in the Volcano he was battling. he just took his sweet time doing it. By the time he was done, The gasses had gotten to him. The clip of the Avatar we see lava bending in the show was also him using the Avatar state.
Ozai Is the best at firebending, as stated by the creators. Irohs attack on the wall was very impressive but it took him a while of charge up and was not sustainable at all, not to mention his lightning took much longer to conjure and had less volume. Ozai was able to sustain a fire blast larger than irohs blast with little effort nearly single handedly burning the earth nation to the ground.
Amon as a bloodbender is the very best. But he's also the most subtle. He only dances between bending attacks because he bloodbends his oponents slightly off course. Same way as Pyrha in rwby moves people's weapons to barely miss her or always hit her shield.
Yeah, Toph and Bumi were quite OP in their own rights, and in bending pure Earth I would argue that both of them were on near equal terms, with Toph's youth and blind-bending experience giving her much of an edge... I mean Bumi didn't really have to move his body much at all to bend perfectly! *Wiggles nose travels back through city in a large metal box...*
There’s a healer water bender named Atuat in the Kyoshi series. She created a technique where she is able to use her bending in order to lower a patients body temperature to prevent death until she’s able to get them fully healed
I have to say, Mako should be mention here, he can generate lightning so fast and with so minimal movement he can do it, while being bloodbend. Also other firebender like Iroh, Ozai, Azula only shown a short burst of lightning, only Zolt and Mako was shown shooting a continuous stream of lightning (vs Spirit Vines).
I think the greatest waterbender is Ming Hua. Like Toph, her bending was her way of interacting with the world. She is the most offensive waterbender ever and could hold her own against multiple extremely skilled benders at once. She didn't even need the subsets of waterbending to be badass.
She is for sure good. But she is not well-rounded. Her water-bending mostly swirls around using water and ice as flexible replacement for her missing hands. But she is not as good in bending water directly.
Most master benders: *learn to incorporate aspects from other bending styles to improve their own techniques.* Toph: *simply turns earth bending up to 11.*
Because earth is low-key them ost diverse element .it can be as fluid as sand and mud, while also being as strong as metal. Earth can be precise like sand bending an entire city into the ground, or as bold as metal bending an entire fire nation war ship. As well as seismic sense giving you an almost airbending level of psychic connecting to the ground and neutral jing which is basically the main principle of manululatiig energies in water bending. Earth bending is just too diverse lol
What's really cool to me is that toph was able to do everything hundreds of feet above the ground in blimps she's so far out of her comfort zone and in Combat and still able to focus enough to metal bend everything
Didn't Amon create a giant water spout the size of a small building without moving his arms in his final confrontation? I might be misrerembering the no movement thing, but I think he was able to psychically bend the ocean too, and even if not, that was one of the most impressive feats of raw power we've seen from a waterbender.
His water sprout was literally taller than a portion of the pro bending arena, which was already like 15-20 stories tall, so yea, Amon's water bending is just as powerful as his blood bending.
@@controlman7490 I agree, and that movement thing is comparable to hovering on an element with the avatar state which also shows how skilled of a waterbender Amon was.
Nick completely forgot about Avatar Yangchen's Deadly Sonicbending, with screams that can create Earthquakes and kill people. Don't discount the Novels!
Toph actually did meet a lava bender in the comics when she was 14 trying to start her school. Lava bending and mental bending seem to be something you have to be born with because toph couldn't lava bend no matter what and the lava bender couldn't figure out mental bending
It is likely that in order to be lava Bender your parents must be earth and fire benders maybe grandparents if you feel generous, do that's may be why lava bending is so rare
I just love how every bending element has a bunch of potential people better in certain categories and then you get to earth and it's pretty much all toph except for lava bending. I like to think she could've learned it but it seems like it wasnt really done until the prisoner in korra. When roku did it in the original series i always assumed he could do that because he could firebend and earthbend
Lightning Bending becomes so much more common in LoK that the overall base skill is higher than those of ATLA. Mako himself is shown to be able to produce lightning quickly and with little to no wind-up. He is even shown producing constant streams of lightning alongside other laborers. Mako is kind of just better by default.
Eh, I’d say that’s a continuity error rather than an example of stronger characters. The whole point of lightning bending was that only perfect and complete balance and control could wield it, shown in cold-blooded characters like Ozai and Azula who used total control over themselves and their qi to bend it to their will and the man who found a perfect inner balance, Iroh, who could manipulate it freely with skill. I think it’s that LoK wanted to have more ‘cool bending’ and so made it more common. It could be argued that people figured out an easier way to lightning bend in an age of electricity, but even then, it still means Ozai is stronger if he was doing it by those old standards. I think it was a little underwhelming to have so many more lightning benders in LoK when it was clearly such a difficult ability which gave so much characterisation to show how skilled characters were beyond just their raw power.
@@midnight4685 I kind of disagree. I think it makes total sense for more complex bending to be studied and simplified for an industrial era. It was likely less about the writers and more about how modernization is about efficiency and convenience over things like spirituality. I can imagine safety manuals that warn people how to safely control lightning without injury. I also want to clarify that lightning redirection is about balance. Lightning generation is about implementing water bending theory into fire bending. And neither Ozai nor Azula knew about redirection. Azula certainly was out of balance and out of control when she shot lightning at Katara. Was that also a continuity error?
@@K2ParaContinuity error may not have been the right word. I meant that there was a disconnect between how TLA lightning-benders worked and how LoK lightning-benders worked. I wouldn't consider the unnamed labourers in the factories as masters, though they've probably shot more lightning than Azula has. TLA's lightning-bending clearly requires a lot of skill and mastery, LoK's doesn't. So it's not a fair comparison to consider Mako better than Azula, who trained her whole life. My point still stands, even if it was about efficiency, the older benders would still be the strongest. I already addressed that in my original reply. And I do think it was on the writers, at least in part - they were moving their world into an electrical one, it makes sense that they'd want lightning-bending, but the way they did it with no explanation or replacement still feels pretty cheap. LoK doesn't replace it with any styles to symbolise mastery of firebending (or really any bending). You're born to lavabend, to combustion bend, have a genetic advantage to bloodbend. The only one that is close is metalbending, but unlike lightning-bending, we never see how difficult it is for random people to pick up in TLA (it was just a new way to look at metal), so it's believable. I did some googling, and it is explained in an art book for Book 1 of TLA that lightning bending was artificially restricted as knowledge held only by the royal family, according to reddit. It'd be cooler if that was put in either show, but even so, there's a skill gap. Your point about lightning generation is a good one, I conflated the two, I take back what I said about balance. But I still do think it requires less skill than it does in LoK and it seems we both agree on that. That was what it was used for in TLA, and would explain why Azula could use it in a moment of desperation, because she'd had it drilled into her constantly. In TLA, lightning was to showcase mastery of firebending. It showed the audience how dangerous these characters were who had been able to not only master their own basic element but transform it into something beyond strength into cold precision, with their own total control and concentration. Some unnamed factory workers just do not have that. A random guy, never explained to be a prodigy, who learnt to firebend on a sports team doesn't match that, even if he can lightning-bend, he can't lightning-bend like Azula or Ozai. So Mako isn't fair to place above Azula, Ozai and Iroh because the different shows have what is essentially two completely different types of lightning-bending, which is why I mentioned the writers. The writers placed different levels of weight on them: one requires a huge skill level, one is easily accessible to facilitate the world. So I think in this tier list, the one that requires more skill is fair to place as the best, that being Ozai.
@@midnight4685 You make a lot of good points. It is definitely possible that old lightning bending could require more skill due to the principles and more traditional methods used to control it. But I think it's very similar to metal bending in that we don't see how difficult it is to learn lightning bending. Only that it is restricted to the royal family. We only see Zuko struggling to learn redirection, but he is a character who always struggles. I think your way of thinking is reasonable, but I also think we have no true way of knowing which is correct. But I choose to believe that the mass spread of bending methods and knowledge does not necessarily make the more efficient technique inferior. I look at it more like the royal family having flintlock rifles versus being able to buy a modern rifle at a local firearm shop. The weapon is more readily available now, but it has also evolved in other ways. In this way, I think it's fair to assume that other practices can be superior. Like how Korra learned the modernized boxing style of bending from Mako and Bolin. It actually improved on her fighting capabilities even though it wasn't traditional. I want to say here that I do not think Mako reaches the levels of Azula and Ozai in terms of fighting prowess. I simply think it's possible that Mako has access to more combat knowledge and that this may also apply to (possibly) having a better understanding of lightning bending. I think it's fair for Azula, Iroh, and Ozai to be considered true masters for their era, but I see limits of what it takes to be master grow even higher as time passes. I hope I'm conveying my point clearly enough. In conclusion, I don't really see any flaw in either of our ways of thinking. I'm just on the side that bending has reached a higher place of comprehension and mastery than in the past. We also don't really get to see what the modern fire bending master looks like in LoK due to fire bending taking a backseat in the series.
@@K2Para Yeah, fair enough. I personally think that lightning on its own conveys feelings of that refinement, and my brain is telling me faintly that there were lines in TLA about the sheer power of lightning and the technique and all that. But yeah, when the differences are more symbolic than anything, it'd be tough to compare pure skill. I might not be as smart as Newton but I can do things he never knew about, and that's a fair point to make. At the same time, I would never consider myself as smart as Newton. So we'd both be 'strongest' in different ways, which I think is the conclusion we reached. As a sidenote, I was personally disappointed with LoK when I watched it, so I am a bit biased against it too, though I tried to keep the bias away.
With the visual distance Toph had, you would need nothing less than blimbs to be able to capture anything from her. Tanks would just fall apart long before they even seen the city, boats would be a challenge but I'm sure she'd figure something out, planes are way to noisy, just trying to walk up would be pointless.
Also Yang Chen is the greatest Airbender, --- she can rip the air out of the lungs of any targets she wants without ever letting anyone know what's happening until it's too late and she can do this with multiple targets at once, she's not limited to one like Zaheer.
Toph is such an interesting well developed character. She is OP, but at the same time she's blind. That's how you create an OP character, lovable and relatable.
Also Jinora got her tattoos at 11 based on the opinion and bias of one dude, her father, and while to his credit Tenzin is pretty fair and conservative with such judgements (he definitely understood the responsibility on his shoulders of upholding the ways of an entire culture), it's still one dude and he's still her dad. Jinora may absolutely have deserved her tattoos at 11, who's to say really? But just on principle, the decision between Aang receiving his and Jinora receiving hers aren't comparable.
Yes, there was a whole panel of people that likely over saw Aang's training and progress. The training Jinora got was likely slightly watered down. Using memory and what ever left over information that may still exist in text. But bias? Likely not as Tenzen did say she wasn't ready, unitl she had passed the Airbending training level of her time.
wasn't her dad more of a weakness to her getting her tattoos than a strength? Like all of season 3, Jinora was trying to prove to her dad she was an airbending master, and even mastered a skill Tenzin never was able to do when Tenzin was considered an airbending master.
@@rachelroyce278this lends credence to it. How many people were there to raise Tenzen to his position? In the time before the annihilation there were dozens if not hundreds of masters. They had councils that governed who would be selected. Tenzen simply can't match that alone. Yes his daughter may have been ready sooner but also, the requirements most definitely have changed. The air nomads were effectively reverted to a more infantile state of their former selves.
I think you forgot that toph actually learned lava bending in one of the comics. It certainly doesn’t make her great at it but she did learn the basics I believe
Considering it's Toph, her learning how to do something basically guarantees that she's going to be great at it shortly after, as her quick mastery over Sand and Metal bending can attest to, lol
Zaheer, imo, is the better air bender. Not only was he the 2nd air bender to ever fly, he mastered it in a significantly shorter time than the air bending geniuses. Where aang and Jenora took 12 and 11 years, Zaheer mastered air bending and flight in about a week. Then ,while imprisoned, he guided Korra to the spirit world with no spiritual shrines or anything connect to the spirit world around him. Plus, no need for an air scooter when you can fly. If Zaheer had 12 years of air bending, he'd be much better than he already is.
Zaheer studied air nomad culture and techniques for his whole life even when he wasn’t a bender because he found it interesting so when he got his airbending he was straight baddass.
Aang and Jinora were still children, while Zaheer was an adult who had been fighting and studying air bending his entire life. Tenzin beat him, so a full power Aang would've done the same.
Aang and the others would never have learned to fly ever in their lives but not because they were weak, just because they had earthly ties. If Katara had died Aang probably could have picked up flying easy enough
the entirety of Toph's story is centered of the necessity of survival. I bet, as an earthbender, that her name is a derived version of Tuff, a kind of rock. but I beleive it's meant as "tough". When you look at it, everything she did was centered around the necessity of survival: She learned seismic sense so she could see, but initially because she got lost in a cave. She develloped her earthbending style in a fighting arena. She learned sandbending because she had to to save her friends. She learned metalbending because she felt treaten and needed it to save herself. Later, she learned mudbending because she needed it to live in her swamp. The only way she knew how to teach Aang earthbendign was through putting him and Sokka in harms way, with boulders and her rock armor. I'm convinced the only reason Korra learned metalbending and not Aang is because Korra's life was endangered and needed it to survive. She learned it from Toph. Meanwhile, when Aang tried to learn it, he couldn't, probably because he trusted his friendship with Toph enough so he did not really feel treaten by her, while her other students where terrified of her. She never learned Lavabending because it never was a mean of survival for her. Also, I'm convinced the only reason Jinora got her tattoos at 11 while Aang got them at 12 was because the traditions where sadly lost with Aang. Aang was the last airbender in the traditionnal sense, while Tenzin was the first of the "new era" of airbender, meaning that at some point, wether we like it or not, there is no way for Tenzin to be up to date with the old traditions, meaning that while being the most traditionnal airbender of LoK, he still lacked the criticism level of the old masters, and being the only master able to grant tatoos probably lead to his daughter being judged an airbending master prematurely. Though she probably would've still got them at a young age, I don't think the old masters would've made her a master at that age.
Correction thou korra never learned metal bending from toph she learned it from sue toph's youngest daughter. Also don't forget that all this happened in Zhao fu the metal city where toph created it and also had her own police force where also sue and her family lived. "Reference sn 3 korra"
Well you were explaining the fire stuff I got worried who you were going to name the superior firebender Then you came through with Uncle Iroh who legitimately was the very best They should honestly do a spin-off show of just his travels finding the Great library ,learning from the dragons ECT.. Iroh is the goat hand down
Even though she doesn't have many feats, Kyoshi is another person who could give Toph a run for her money as well as Aang when it came to air bending. Its a little unclear if she used only air bending or air and earth bending to create Kyoshi island, but either way, it is EXTEREMELY impressive since Kyoshi is practically in the middle of the ocean. Not to mention Kyoshi was roughly 300 years old when she died (making her the longest lived Avatar. For people who don't know, the ability to extend your life is an earthbending technique), so she has hundreds of years of practice under her belt, possibly allowing her to eclipse everyone on this list. Edit: I just remembered there are cannon comics about Kyoshi. She lived for 230 years, which is still at least twice as long as any other avatar. She probably is the strongest bender in all of the basic categories since she had a problem when she initially started bending, which was that she was terrible at manipulating elements on a small scale, but she was monsterous at manipulating huge chunks of the elements. For example, before she was even a full fledged avatar, she was able to use her earth bending to uproot the sea floor to take out an entire fleet of ships by herself. Considering she developed an earth bending technique called dust walking (which is when she creates clouds of dust she can WALK ON) she definitely overcame her one weakness.
Kyoshi definitely used earth bending to move Kyoshi Island. because if she only used air bending then that would be a level 1 million Tornado and Qin the conqueror would have died flying away because he and his soldiers were directly hit by the air. the air was probably just to show off and to humiliate Qin by stripping him off his clothes.
@@demiurge2763 That's crazy. Well dust bending opens up the door for being able to bend particles of any size as long as they are related to earth, rock and minerals. Honestly I was thinking of dust bending to be either lighter or heavier than sand bending, and often thought of a dust storm as a bending move. With dust dealing death by a 1000 paper cuts type of dmg
I also feel like just because Ozai has the ability to use immense amounts of lightning, Iroh would still have the mental focus and the sheer will to diffuse it like he has shown he has the skill to do.
Things that are very difficult to quantify in lists like this are factors such as if something was known to be possible or the legality of it. Aang is probably one of if not the best Airbender in history. This being said, certain information he was not aware of or at least was not shown to be. Zaheer indicated that the ability to fly was an obscure fact lost to time that requires a user to fully detach themselves from the earth, for which he has to do when entering the avatar state. His granddaughter "created" the spirit projection ability, which got her the tattoos, long after his death but he did the exact same thing accidentally when Sokka was taken by the panda spirit, heibi? Lava bending, metal, lightning and even blood bending were very niche skills because the method to perform them were not passed down to the masses. Blood, combustion, and lava bending were seen as a taboo because they were initially used as tools of war/crime. All of these could be of great use in a civilized society if wielded by good people, as seen with the lightning bending becoming a factory job.
For regular waterbending, I must give the title to Unalaq, instead of Katara. He is the only bending grandmaster, possibly in history, that has ever succeeded fighting (or at least fend off) a fully realised Avatar. Some might argue, that it's due to his fusion with Vaatu. Keep in mind that Vaatu only adds to his waterbending power when he enters the dark avatar state. Other than that, the power, versatility and creativity he displayed with waterbending when he fought Avatar Korra is very much from his own prowess.
@Major Moha Nope, re-watch the entire fight between him and Korra. For the majority of the fight he wasn't in the avatar state. Now tbf neither was Korra, but still the fact he matched Korra in power while she had all 4 elements and was in perfect shape with just water bending is a feat within it's self.
@@controlman7490 his bending was still boosted from the merge with vaatu. You could tell because every fight he was in before the merge with Vaatu, his bending was never that powerful until he merged with Vaatu. So it stands to reason that his bending was till boosted just from the merge
Ok yea I was looking for this . Hoping to find someone who actually watched korra and the worst season of all of avatar to know that unolag was busted . Crazy strong . He shows high proficiency in all water bending styles and no one else does like this . Yea I do absolutely think he beats amon and literally goes for a killing blow on Katara. Even a blood lusted katara would find the killing blow like he would ..just like kovirea. It made know sense he was that good. He's just probably the best bender in the show right behind toph .
I really enjoyed this video. I love ATLA so it always makes me happy seeing it get the love and attention it deserves. Having said that, the way you pronounce Kuvira’s name should be a criminal offense 😂
I honestly think Katara could beat Amon even if it is not a full moon, Amon's habilities improve because of practice, he couldn't blood bend without the full moon rigth away,he spends years learning and practicing to do that,Katara literally won on a blood bend battle against the inventor a few minutes later of knowing bloodbend existed. If she had train she would easily win Amon, she just didn't. Also Katara was only 14 years old in ATLA and already the greatest watter master in the world, in the comics she improves a lot,she can bend with her feet and plant bend and she is not even a year older than she was in ATLA, in over 60 years, we can only imagine how much better she gets.
I understand your rationale KATARA is arguably the most powerful WATERBENDER in the franchise I believe she hold back b'se she's never bloodlusted 😢 But Southern raiders' episode proved that Katara was op 🙌🏿 Once she hits her lowest (having closure to her mom's murderer) she's unstoppable I believe yakone family would dominate Katara in bloodbending until KATARA hits her lowest point, and it'll be over for Amon ☠️& every other Especially if one of gaang got killed
One thing to add about Iroh, he was able to react to lightning striking the ship in the storm, and was also able to shoot lightning while running away from Azula with Zuko at the kings palace
There's some craaazy earthbending in the Kyoshi novels, even more impressive than Kyoshi herself is her childhood friend Yun who does the type of earthbending that'll rip the iron out from your blood Magneto style
Honorable mentions for each element Water: Ming Hua, Korra Air: Tenzin, Zaheer, Yang Chen, Monk Gyatsu Fire: Azula, Jang Jang, Earth: King Bumi, Kuvira, Bolin
@@scottylindsay8506 bolin was able to hold his own with gazon after just learning he could lavabend, and vastly improved over the time skip he was the second best bender in kuvira’s army right behind herself. People really seem to underestimate him, especially when he’s got some of the best precision and weight bending feats in the series.
@@scottylindsay8506 Lmao, Kuvira would get destroyed by all those guys you just mentioned. She's a metal bending master, but her base Earth bending is adequate. Still a master Earth bender, but her feats are nothing compared to Bolin, Bumi or Ghazan.
Yea very good list. Ming Hua was nasty yo .haha idk about Bolin tho. His normal earth bending is only good right and he can't metal bend. He simply has the rare skill to lava bend. Toph seems to imply not all benders can simply learn so idk
Nice video but one caveat, Jinora didn't invent spirit projection, Aang was the first one to use that technique in the Hei Bai episode (don't remember the name), but for all we know she used it more efficiently than aang though.
I don’t know if I’d call it an improvement but it’s definitely his own original creation But yeah I’d call them equals in everything but raw power, mainly because aang’s an avatar, and they all get a natural boost to their home element.
Well i think mako was also a great lightning bender. He fried his enemy by using it when she was in water, so he technically is the only one with a real lightning kill. It also came in clutch against amon
@@maadtee6281 I think Mako's lightning is as fast Ozai's. When he shot Amon he generated lightning immediately, same as Ozai. Mako is an incredible master of lightning bending.
@@maadtee6281 No, he doesn't. Can you read? I just told you that Mako can generate lightning immediately. The same way Ozai can. Their level of lighting bending is actually surprisingly close.
@@controlman7490 dude ozai lightning it's much more deadlier then even Azula whom almost took out aang Mako lightning needs time to be that dangerous which is proven with kuvira machine
Toph herself can be seen as a prodigy amongst the superstars of the world. As everyone said she picked up quick, also applying theory to practicality. If she couldn’t see she found another sense, she is someone who completes puzzles to actively solve issues in real-time.
The unbendable platinum never made sense to me. Chemically speaking, the purest metal is gold; it’s cliché, but it’s true. The only reason I could think of why they went with platinum in LOK is because platinum sounds less hackneyed.
Another thing about Toph's Seismic Sense is that, I'm fairly certain that old Toph in LoK, can feel vibrations through the earth so precisely, she is able to see Liberty City across the world
That’s because of those vines in the swamp. Remember the episode in atla where the Gaang meets those plant benders? That’s the same swamp that Toph lives in tlok, she even says the vines are everywhere and that’s pretty much how she’s able to see just about everything because of those vines. However it’s still pretty impressive because of her being able to seismic sense. I think only others can slightly feel it, but she can see through them.
Katara is really best waterbender and one of the most powerful. She is prodigy ❤❤ I loved her Character Arc from a simple Girl who just can't lift water to a bloodbender. Woah she was easily my favorite character. and remember Katara learned Bloodbending instantly shows she is very powerful 👑
How come you're pronouncing so many things wrong when they're pronounced as they are in the show lol. Yakone not YA-KU-NE, not everything has to be weebafied lol.
As far as regular water bending goes I'd say Ming-Hua os toe to toe with Katara, she literally used it as an extension of herself and she used water/ice bending in really clever and creative ways. Air bending I'd give to Yangchen, I really love Aang but I mean it's Yangchen. Metal bending it's a pretty similar situation as water bending, Toph invented the bending and was pretty profficient with it, but Su Yin literally founded a city based in metal bending (also I love the scene that she's doing acrobatics while incorporating metal bending). Lava bending hands down goes to Ghazan, while Szeto does bend lava from four volcanoes, Ghazan uses it an more creative way (just like Ming-Hua) and was able to melt the great walls of Ba Sing Se. Comments aside, I really love season 3 of Korra and yes I'm 110% biased
Another thing to add to P'Li's superiority in combustion bending, Sparky Sparky Boom Boom had prosthetic limbs (which implies he exploded himself before) and P'li had all her limbs
the only example weve seen of Szeto is so much more powerful than anything ghazan even attempted, just because ghazan got more screentime doesn't mean the only lava-bending Szeto was capable of was the 2 seconds we saw. your Su Yin vs Toph argument is ridiculous, toph could easily have created the city Su Yin did and toph literally says that she isn't good at metal bending.
@@jamierogers8995 Szeto maybe could bend more sheer amount of lava than Ghazan, but it's prettt clear he wad a diplomat, just by being the Avatar alone he should be pretty good in combat but the screentime is really lacking. We see Szeto bends enormous amount lava, but he was alone, in a calm environment while basically everything Ghazan did was fight, which is a completly different thing. With very little information we have about Szeto it's pretty safe to assume that Ghazan ingenuity in combat puts him above Szeto
@@jamierogers8995 Szeto maybe could bend more sheer amounts of lava than Ghazan, but it's pretty clear he was a diplomat, just by being the Avatar alone he should be pretty good in combat but the screentime is really lacking. We see Szeto bends enormous amount lava, but he was alone, in a calm environment while basically everything Ghazan did was fight, which is a completly different thing. With very little information we have about Szeto it's pretty safe to assume that Ghazan's ingenuity in combat puts him above Szeto
For lavabending- you forgot avatar kyoshi! she lavabended an entire island away from the earth kingdom mainland while airbending to make it faster! i think she was definitely a contender for greatest earthbender.
It is 100% my headcannon that the only reason we dont see Toph learn/use lava bending is because A) she never needed to learn it, and B) volcanoes are too afraid of her to erupt while she's nearby
Mine's always been that she never used it because she couldn't see it.
She said that her vision was fuzzy while in sand, which is still earth, just small. Now make that a liquid. Probably harder to see with seismic sense. Though she could bend mud, so maybe I'm wrong.
She tried learning it but was never able to. There is a comic where she meets a lava bender
@@jacobcrumpton4643 she could learn it if she observed Bolin. Her seismic sense allows her to exactly sense what happens to the earth. Plus, Toph at her old age is more like Iroh, where she's more dangerous than in her prime.
@@Hargazer she would need a parent with fire bending and another parent with earth bending since that’s the ONLY cases we ever see lava bending (in bolin and in Sun, a kid from the comics). Ghazan’s parents are unknown but it’s safe to say it’s the same case as the other two unless he’s Sun’s son which I wholeheartedly believe lol but yeah nah Toph can’t lava bend unless her mum or dad was secretly fire nation 😅
@@rubenatherton5864 This. Outside of Avatars, only fire earth mixed benders can bend lava.
I think people forget how immediately Toph picked up on anything. She learns Sandbending within about an hour of being in the desert. Like, what, three months later, she's making detailed recreations of the upper ring of Ba Sing Se. Bumi may have had more raw power, but Toph was so instantly-versatile.
Toph was just HER man
all it took was for her to bang her hands in her metal cage to invent metalbending lmao
100% agreed. He also left out how she literally bent space rock lol. It could have completely different earth elements since it’s from space but that’s a rabbit role
Honestly her attention to details is so stunning, sure she can bend like absolutely no one's business, but she can also sense heartbeats and who remembers what else enough to tell when someone's lying
Crazy stuff
@@joshfriend2627 the space metal is actually easier to bend then regular metal
“Toph had the ability to bend any metal that she could see” - sad Toph face 😞
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@@ypob2007SAME 🤣🤣🤣🤣
how the fuck did i miss this?
8:05 Aang may be the best airbender and Jinora may have attained her tattoos younger than him, but only Meelo has ever shown the ability to bend farts
Can we get some respect on Monk Gyatsu’s name, bro took down like 30-40 sozin enchanced fire benders before he bit the bullet. Bro was waiting for the opps to pull up, that pacifism was a front
@@JDWalker495 pops?
@@WhiteNoBeard471 means dad fool 🤦🏽♂️
He got a point
@@JDWalker495 gyatso was a chad
I think a feat not talk about in katara is that SHE CAN MOVE IN ICE. She froze herself and azula in their final battle and chained her to the ground that impressive.
She unfroze herself so she wasn't necessarily moving in ice, but the fact the she was able to do that while frozen is just as impressive
Facts and honestly I do believe she blood ben without a full moon as well cause I believe while she was looking for her mother's killer she did it without a full moon but I could be wrong
@@honchochaposrt7919The Southern Raiders. And yes, as far as I'm aware, that episode did not take place during a full moon, in universe.
@@honchochaposrt7919 When she stopped the rain best moment
It was a full moon in the episode, they had a big shot of the moon while Zuko and Katara were on their murder mission
I think Toph's mastery of "seismic sense" may be the reason she's able to master and/or develop all the other forms of earth bending because it allowed her to "feel" the earth better and allowed for greater levels of control over earth.
Sand bending:
That must be why she was able to make a perfect replica of ba sing se including the earth king and Basco
@@ATLA99 That's exactly why she's able to do that. When Toph first described to Aang how she "sees" things she perfectly points out an ant colony in her garden. That's a level of sensitivity that can only be matched by the real-life LIGO instruments (look it up it makes sense).
@@voidmystic00also I think that in one episode of Korra she tells her daughter that she can "see" her from the swamp all the way back to republic city, that the is pretty sure she can see better than anyone else. Which honestly makes Azula's ability to lie even more impressive as Toph could'nt sense even the slightest change within Azula
cuz she learned from the original ones, being the base of true earthbending, she has a headstart on anything earthbending realated
Him talking about Iroh and his travels makes me think about how much we NEED that as a show. Iroh is easily one of the most pivotal and beloved characters of the ATLA universe and I think his story is one that needs to be told on screen.
I want this series rather than a Futuristic new avatar
They dont need to make a whole show iroh can just tell his story in the spirit world
I didn't think he think he actually traveled, I thought he said he studied the other elements, as in reading in a library. I mean their were no airbenders to visit, the south pole had no benders, and the north pole was on paranoid lock-down, all earth benders in occupied territory were sent to labor camps and he got caught by Jet in less then a month of hiding in the Earth Kingdom, Jet's not going to be the only paranoid person in the Earth Kingdom and Iroh is just not cautious enough to get by for long periods of time as called out by Zuko. All the while he was the older brother, war hero, and former crown prince and Ozai just took the throne, I imagine Ozai wanted him close to home to keep an eye on him so he didn't potentially start plotting a coup. Not to mention the tight timeline with only a couple of years between Iroh's son dying, Zuko being around 10, and starting his spiritual awaking and Zuko being banished at 13. 3 years isn't alot of time to travel the world without a coal powered ship, flying bison, or that coal powered train thing that Azula used. And unless I miss remember didn't he just run a tea shop after the war, so no travel?
I think a show focused on him being a relentless conquer taking over the Earth Kingdom 1 town at a time, strolling though destroyed homes, dismissing casualty reports as acceptable losses, and rounding up civilians to send to labor camps for the glory of the fire nation as he sought to be the first ever to take Ba Sing Se by force would be a better way of showing Iroh's growth from affably evil to truly redeemed.
@@bunch1he traveled.
@@ThatsKami16 When? Where?
Toph is no surprise. It feels like her scenes are her reminding everyone that she's the best Earthbender of all time, then proving anyone who doubts her very wrong. The other half is the cast realising how useful Toph is and being thankful that she's on their side.
Yun, kyoshi are better than her but he doesn't read novels
@@KaiserReb they may win in a fight but in terms of earthbending skill, toph is unrivaled.
@@KaiserReb she would metal bend Kyoshi’s fans and use them against her. I reckon
@@hzlkelly kyoshi wouldn’t use the fans????
@@KaiserReb Kuroshio wouldn’t be able to metal bend the fans even if she used them. The only disadvantage Toph has is Air. If Kyoshi is only using air bending then yeah. And probably fire bending too as she can’t tell the attack is coming towards her. But with water and earth she would be able to counter attack. It wouldn’t be a fair fight if Kyoshi is using all four to fight Toph so going on earth bending alone, Toph is still the greatest earth bender of all time.
Toph - Greatest of all time in basic Earthbending; entirely mastered 2 sub-styles of Earthbending within a short time of even learning they existed; invented a whole new sub-style of Earthbending on her own and was never surpassed in it.
Toph is the GOAT, no question
I've always wondered just how lethal airbenders could be if they hadn't chosen the path of pacifism. If the style had been cultivated differently I feel like the airbenders would be an absolute force to be reckoned with. It's hard to defend against someone ripping the breath out of your lungs or creating a vacuum over your head, combined with their speed and agility
Or just going full Naruto and slicing you apart with invisible blades
I give you, ZAHEER!
Avatar Yangchen developed a technique involving airbending reinforcing a scream to such a degree it could instantly kill someone in front of her
@@olorin7611 Even then I think zaheer had very little time to master it and he was still that dangerous.
@@nathangaspacio6128 Agreed. Not a match for Tenzin, but amazing progress none the less. Could have become much more powerful, not just with flight.
Keep in mind that when it comes to Toph's seismic sense, it's said that by the time of Legend of Korra, she can simply stand on the ground and tell you where anyone is at any time so long as she knows who you're talking about. In other words, Toph as an old lady can see an entire planet just by planting her feet on it. Although we can't forget that that not only did Toph and the Badger Moles have seismic sense, so did Aang.
She did that with the help of the Swamp's vines
with the help of vines that where connected to the planet not her actual prowess. seismic sense isn;t impressive
I still feel bumi beats toph. Causing a minor earthquake would be like a flashbang to toph. So then she would be completely blind. And when bumi took back his city, he was tossing buildings from their build point at mach speed without using much effort. Plus he is a mad genius so he could fight around tophs strengths
Yeah, aang learned it from her but of course she is better
@Tharles Chornburg im sorry what? Each and every earth bending move creates a small earthquake.... why would you think that would flashbang toph instead of giving her 4k vision?
Also, toph moved the entire staircase of the royale bah sing se palace, wich is multiple buildings worth of earth.
Let alone toph HOLDING UP THE ENTIRE WAN SHI TONG LIBRARY FILLING WITH SAND...
Wich would be like holding up almost the entirety of omashu
Do you guys remember when Bolin was talking to Toph about the fact that he could lava bend and she told him that he was pretty talented because not every earth bender could use lava bending. I think the way she said it was basically telling us she had the ability as well. Maybe I'm to much of a Toph fan and its getting to my head but I do believe that Toph can lava bend as well...
we can only wish. It could be the same level as blood bending where the lavabending style simply wasnt for her.
Lavabending requires a hybrid of benders fire and earth to transmute the earth into lava
I read it the opposite way. Toph is not easily impressed, so for her to remark that he might have some talent indicated, to me, that he could do something even she couldnt do. However, as a Toph fan myself, i will join your head cannon that Toph can lavabend because i like it
I think you get either Metal or Lava, it would make no sense for Bolin to be able to lava which is harder and not be able to metal bend.
@@ATLA99Could be that she’s impressed and COULD use it as well but she just doesn’t personally like it over Metal and Earth bending. Kind of like how Airbenders don’t like taking lives and wouldn’t just sap someone’s breathe away she might not prefer using it herself since it’s more prone on destruction and such. Could be part of that head canon, who knows.
Another rare style, Sozin was shown using a bending style we never saw again: Heat Bending.
During the Eruption that killed Roku, Sozin was shown bending the Heat out of Lava to cool it. That temperature change is insane.
Also, hearing Nick say Kuvira's name hurts.
EDIT: I've clarified a couple times in replies, but thought best do so here since so many people keep saying the same thing:
I'm not talking about heating things up, like Iroh with his cold tea or his handcuffs, or Zuko's self-heating to survive in the North Pole.
I'm talking about a Fire Bender *taking away Heat*, which is antithetical to Fire Bending itself. We never see any other Fire Bender cool something down.
Lol omg same.
Very painful
I almost threw my phone away.
Zuko did it in the last episode of book 1
Technically Iroh did use heat bending when he got tea in the faces of pursuers when he was with Zuko in the Tea house in Ba Sing Se
Small correction. Roku could and did bend the lava coming out of one volcano. It was when the second volcano started erupting that he started to struggle.
Yeah and also roku was weakened since he was breathing the gas while that guy was far from it and in his avatar state, roku in avatar state would’ve done same but its easier to explode volcano than stopping it
I am unsure if that was Roku bending the lava directly, not saying he is not. I think he may have been channeling a different avatar to lava bend, because he was only able to bend lava after entering the avatar state.
@@davidkeller7031it’s not that he’s channeling a new avatar, it’s just that you can only bend more than one element at a time by using the avatar state. He had to use fire and earth in order to do it.
@@Protogv 1. No, there's no evidence to show the avatar state is needed to bend multiple elements at once-easy example is snow using water and wind to put out the fire from the meteor that was used in sokka's sword 2. Fire has nothing to do with lavabending, it's an earthbending technique
avatar kyoshi was a lavabender- she bended an island away from the mainland earth kingdom.
What I really loved about Toph inventing metalbending is that when we see it the show uses a similar visual to her seismic sense, implying that she found the impurities through it. This just adds on to her disability being her strength. She's the one who invented it because she was the only one who could've found the impurities.
There was a technique overlooked. Korra goes to the fire temple and meets a healer that scans her body in a fashion similar to water healing. I know it only on one scene and we have no info on it, just wanted to point it out cause it gets forgotten all the time.
Alsooooo the acupuncture we see in the metal city!!! It was able to heal mental state in a way that is inhuman so it must go past just normal acupuncture and is technically a healing sub bending
Yea
I am so glad I'm not alone in this!! I have been saying this for years every time someone does a bending ranking or evaluation video!!!!!
Kyoshi also used Earthbending to slow down her aging so she was able to live 230 years which is in itself a kind of healing. So really just airbenders are left out
One thing to add to iroh: he's the only fire bender I can recall that's ever extinguished someone else's fire. When he caught Zhao's foot by surprise he put out the flame that Zhao was gonna fire at Zuko.
P'li extinguished makos fire when they were in zaio fu
@@HighVonte I wouldn't consider that extinguishing. She redirects it and it fades away. Iroh caught the foot middle of the blast and put it out immediately.
@@DrDipsh1t true
I know a lot of people say that Ozai is the strongest firebender and that the creators confirmed him to be the strongest, but I think in reality the strongest in atla is Iroh. I mean he has feats he’s done before we really see how strong he is in later seasons. I simply think he doesn’t have that urge to destroy and rage to fuel his firebending, so he many not come off as strong.
@@ningmushii I agree, tbf we only really see Ozai fight during the comet and Iroh very rarely goes all out. In fact he never really did the entire series so it's hard to say who is for sure more powerful. But imo if they were to fight, Iroh would clear, Aang could have straight up killed Ozai with redirecting lightnight but chose not to, Iroh would call out Ozai for not mastering the basics xD.
4000 years ago, Air benders were actually able to fly like Zaheer as we saw in the Beginnings eps in Legend of Korra book 2...
However, lore states that many generations after, these Air Bending Monks grew exceptionally close to Air Bisons (nothing wrong in that)...
But in order to fly freely one must severe it's connections to its Earthly tethers...which Air benders couldn't get rid of due to their close bonds with these Bisons...
My head canon is now that Toph doesn't lava bend because of the incident with Zuko burning her feet. She felt the heat once and decided it wan't for her, so lava bending was never something she was interested in. Not because shes afraid, but because of pure uninterest.
I believe it is mentioned that lava bending needs both earth and fire bending ability, thus Toph (with only earth bending lineage) can never do it but Bolin (whose father is earth bender, and mother is a fire bender) can.
Toph is interested in lava bending. In the comics Toph actively seeks out Lava bending when she first felt it from afar and even took the lavabender under her wing.
But yeah, I don't think she could have bent lava because of the lack of innate ability.
@@shravyaboggarapu5877 omg I really wanna read and own the comics so badly can’t get enough!
Ooh ooh! Seismic sense feat that no one ever talks about (including Nick): during the Gaang’s battle against the Dai Lee for Ba Sing Se, Toph jumped off Appa’s back. Upon landing, she was able to IMMEDIATELY send BOULDERS flying at the enemies. Meaning that it takes less than 1 second for her to sense her surroundings from a great distance and determine exactly where everyone is to fight back. UNMATCHED.
I think for best water bender in TLOK is actually Ming Hua. Similar to Toph being blind, Ming Hua not having arms means she had to adapt in a way to use her element without that aspect to it that which is really important to bending itself, weve only seen a handful of others bend without their arms. Ming Hua also tends to use water from other water benders to her advantage, making her literally impossible to deal with from a water bending standpoint, and earth and fire benders have a rough time with her as well because her water bending is so versatile. The only way they were able to beat her was with lightning bending, but i think without that she beats everyone from TLOK
Are we gonna ignore that Yang Chen can create a vacuum? Literally sucking out all the oxygen not just around someone’s head but an entire room. Or Kiyoshi’s near immortality through earth bending? Also she too can lava bend at least in the avatar state when she created her island
Yun
Zaheir was able to create a vacuum around someone's head
I don't think the vaccum move is as imoressive
Aang can probably use that too, he just won't cause of his pacifist nature
@@King_TurtleII nope its an advanced technique aang never would have learned. the vacuum move can kill anybody within 9 seconds, completely nullifies fire and combustion bending, etc. its quite impressive tbh
@@gregorymandel979 ye that's a bit different to yangchen's technique, which literally removed all air from the surroundings as opposed to just deoxygenating a specific individual.
Something I want to point out that puts Aang a step farther above all of the other airbenders, even more than he already was, is his conversation with the air nomad avatar before him, Avatar YangChen. When speaking, she tells him that he cannot achieve spiritual enlightenment and will have to sacrifice his own spiritual needs for the needs of the world. I take this to mean that Aang as a child has almost pushed his spiritual capabilities to their limit and could have pushed farther and achieved what would later be accomplished by Zaheer and Jinora if he was able to gain full access to his spiritual potential.
That's a very good point. Being the Avatar honeslty limits how far Aang could go with airbending. Aang would never be able to fly because as YangChen says he cannot sever his worldly ties as his duty as the avatar is to the world.
@@DillyHDTechnically... He can. His duties as the avatar are to the spirit world. The avatars can forget about their physical responsibilities if they want to. Like Avatar Kuruk who is considered the worst Avatar because he did nothing to help other nations but spend all his time killing spirits(Personally I think he might have been the most powerful avatar yet).
i like that as the bending masters get older, their way of bending also changes. They go from doing hard throws and movements to having more fluidity and finesse. They are actually bending their element.
Jinora is definitely the pick for spirit bending 100% but her tatoos at 11 (which for sure makes her a genius) are also due to a lack of teachers/lack of other people to master air bending. Definitely don’t want to take anything from her she’s 10000 a genius just want to contextualize cause Tensin definitely needed another air bending master to help him with the redevelopment of the airnomad society
she's just different from Aang. Willing to bet that passing down an entire culture to the next generation from memory is extremely hard. Both got the requirements for the tattoos but Jinora got the slightly watered down version that was likely recalled mostly from memory and recorded remnants from the other temples.
But for Aang, he had almost everything, all the information and various teachers, structured learning, peer reviews and the greatest Airbender in the world as his mentor. The training and curriculars were probably easier to come by but harder on him.
Tensin even mentioned how Jinora wasn't ready for her tattoos but she did technically fulfil the requirements of her time period.
Its like our current schooling system, plenty of people passed the highschool exam but if you looked at some of the tests from years ago some of the requirements were harder back the. Like a math test someone showed seemed harder than it is now. Its like they had to lower the grade level
Technically Aang never actually finished all the stages of air bending mastery iirc. One the the ways to become a master is to create a new bending technique which both jinora and aang did.
@@jameswillemsen2609 who did not complete their training? because you said Aang but said he and Jinora completed their training.
DO you mean someone else?
Also, I may have to look up what Tenzen invented.
Jinora completed her training and was qualified to be a master. Tenzin actually didn't want to make her one initially because he was worried for her, even though he knew she was ready. He had to come around to it and accept she was more grown up and mature than he was ready for. They had a whole father daughter heart to heart moment where he says all this.
She also knew everything that she possibly could under tenzin
Honestly, best lightning bender title should be given to Azula. After the series in the comics--which are canon--Azula's lightning bending really did improve to insane levels. She's able to redirect lightning, make spheres of lightning that she can eject (similar to a rasengan but bigger), she can shoot lightning without charge (as Ozai did, but instead she doesn't have to do Ozai's "fell swoop movement" so it's practically instant generation), and she can shoot multiple streams of lightning at once, so instead of Ozai's 2 streams, one from each hand, she's shown to shoot 5 with one . She's definitely the greatest lightning bender in the whole franchise. Ozai can't even redirect lighting, how can he be considered the best if he can't do a basic counter. I would honestly even put Mako above Ozai in lighting bending💀.
day of black sun, ozai was a kilometer underground and still popped one instantly. if he saw or thought of ejecting compressed lightning, he'd absolutely be able to right away
@@nirgunawish But does he? Or is he ever shown to? No. Lol that's not how feats work buddy. You can imagine whatever you please, but until it's shown he doesn't have the skill, period.
All facts
will point out that her lightning ALSO becomes laughable weak in those same comics. People get hit with it at point black range and are back on their feet in a couple minutes. Not that she isn't an incredible lightning bender, she is the only person we ever see who CAN do this, but it isn't as impressive as you're making it sound.
I think you can't ignore how powerfull ozai is at lightning bend just because he didn't learn to redirect it, that's not how an analysis work, azula's instant lightning also barely causes damage in the comics, while ozai's were redirected by zuko purposedly at his feet so it wouldn't kill him. We see in korra that while that fire beding gangster was losing his bending because of amon, the lightning turned to flames, which got smaller and then desappered, wich shows lightning bending works as concentrated fire, so ozai doing it as the sun appears is really impressive, I think korra contradicts the original series with how bending works, just ike the comics, but it is also canonical. The novelization of the final fight (canonical by the way) also shows that ozai's lightnings are really concentrated, so they are more powerfull than they size appears
I’d argue that for lightning bending alone, Mako is better than Ozai. He uses lightning for his job regularly, and also the fact that Mako was able to do it while he was being bloodbent by Amon. Most other lightning benders we’ve seen always needed some sort of wind-up in the form of stances to prep the lightning, even Ozai, but Mako didn’t.
most would argue that they aren't really bending lightning, just electricity, since the two forms are so hugely different
How often does a lightning bender come a cross a bloodbender? I highly doubt that Ozai couldn't blitz Amon
In legend of Korra no one literally uses any form
i won't agree because in atla lightning bending was kept a royal family secret hence no one other than azula, ozai and iroh ever used it in day to day life. in lok most lightningbending takes a very short time to recharge but the impact is also pretty harmless. like when mako strikes lightning at amon when he was about to take away bolin's bending it surely made an explosion hitting the lights and wires on the stage but literally no one got hurt from it not a little bit. the same kinda goes for every time we see someone in lok use lightningbending. it's more widespread, but it's weaker.
while ozai, iroh and azula's lightning does take longer to recharge it's way more dangerous and deadly. azula was able to kill aang and nearly kill zuko and iroh with her lightning, while zuko barely kept his ground redirecting ozai's.
so yeah i'd say lightning is easier to learn and faster to generate in korra but it's way more powerful in atla
Flight is a technique like seismic sense but is not a subbending category. Also. Anng was able to spirit project in the 1st season of avatar already. He meditated and went to the spirit world several times. We didn't realize it was spirit projection then but that's what it was.
I agree, and to piggyback off this point, we saw Aang spirit project the other avatar spirits when he was on the Lion Turtle.
also Aang was the one that gave korra her powers back, he wasn´t taking the body of the avatar of the moment, he was interacting with it as a spirit, something that we never saw again from another avatar
I don't think she can I'm pretty sure lava bending is only possible for fire and earth benders (avatars) or the child/descendant of an earth and fire bender ie Bolin (only one whose parents are known)
I believe they're earth slash fire bending which is what lava bending is
@@raven1436 you’re right about the lava benders having fire and earth bender parents, in the comics toph meets the first lava bender we ever see a kid named sun, whose parents were fire and earth benders. I also have a suspicion he’s gazhan’s (lava bender in the red lotus) dad since the ages would add up and he could’ve inherited lava bending directly
Yeah, another thing of Aang doing cool stuff is when him and Katara were saving the village from the factory by destroying it he metal bent the floor up and down to destroy some of the machines
I think Yakone is better than Amon considering he bloodbent an entire courtroom of people with his mind without a full moon, and those people included peak adult Avatar Aang and peak adult Toph. Pretty sure Katara was there too
But you have to remember Amon can bloodbend someones bending away
tbf, there isn’t really much to imply there is a way to resist blood bending/react to it so you can avoid/resist it that I can remember being mentioned. At most maybe the avatar state can resist it but there’s nothing to suggest blood bending Aang would be any harder than anyone else. Especially depending on what he did to all those people(for example, it’s easier to incapacitate through making the blood rush to certain parts of the body than physically control them)
@@hephsforge9236 if your waterbending is stronger than the blood bender you're immune. that's why katara resisted hama, its how amon resisted his brother and its how avatar state aang resisted Yakone.
im not sure if there's a way for a non water bender to resist though, unless they can fight back without their limbs like toph, bumi, combustion benders ect
Yea but we don't see yakone other bending skills and he seem to look at amon as if he surpassed him as a kid
I’m pretty sure katara wasn’t there though. By that time katara and aang had kids so I’m fairly certain she was back home with the kids.
Toph definitely learned lava bending, she was heating her food when Korra found her. 😅😊
she can't lol i love Toph but no she cannot metal bend and also she was using fire not lava
@@egi3590she can't metal bend?
the inventor of metalbending cannot metalbend?
@@Soul.Resonant he's smoking something
Disappointed Ming Hua wasn't mentioned cause I think she is the best pure water bender by far. She has the Toph buff where she uses the element as an extension of herself. Katara still wins for the best well rounded water bender of course cuz of healing and blood but I honestly think Ming
Hua edges out Katara in just Water bending.
i also think shes one of,if not the best ice benders.
what makes her really noteworthy as a bender is because,not only the close dependant relationship she has with water,but the fact that shes badically doing it all with her mind....with her thoughts she creates arms,and manipulates them to mimic the hand gestures...not to mention she can cantrol as many as 8 appendages simultaniously with no effort...that much dexterity with limbs whtat arent even hers must require rediculess concentration.
I will say that with naruto he is a pri, but with ATLA and LOK sometime he isn't as strong. Ming hau definitely should have had an honorable mention, and he forgot ice completely.
He also forgot about the fire benders in LOK who were using fire to find disturbances in K9rras spirit
Not really. Kya wasn't specially trained in combat and was still landing hits. Katara's a beast and Ming Hua would get dogwalked like Tenzin did Zaheer.
@@sednanamaka341 She was Katara's daughter and used a lot of high level water techniques. I think it's safe to assume she received water bending training from Katara and the White Lotus. The difference between Tenzin and Zaheer is apt, but I think it'd be the other way around. Ming Hau and Tenzin both had a stronger connection to their respective element, the former because it helped her get around and the latter because he carried his father's legacy. Besides both Katara and Tenzin have been hit and lost fights as well, even against inferior benders.
Toph's seismic sense was so great that in her elderly years she could "see" everything on Earth from her home in the Swamp.
Huhhh. Where'd they say his
@@awesomeone1784 in legend of korra
I guess it's more like spiritual thing, not earthbending, but i could be wrong
haha toph tap into that the giant tree's rootnet in the swamps
Eh, it was kinda more her tapping into the spiritual energy of the vines.
Loved this, your pronunciations were killin me tho 😂❤
“P LIE”
“yakonay”
I still think avatar yangchen was one of the strongest airbenders after reading her book. She could suck the air out of entire rooms to suffocate people.
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agreed. I would but keslang above aang as well.
So could Gyatso probably
@@Flipitmixitgyatso definitely did that too. It’s pretty much implied in the show
I think that Jinora having spiritual projection might be the result of harmonic convergence and the fact that spiritual connections were heightened all across the world. Yes, she’s a genius and has great spiritual connection, but she kinda had a boost.
Aang could spirit project too. He does it on the Lionturtle's back to talk to his past selves.
Great list! I would consider Mako for best Lightning Bender because he was so natural at it, he zapped Amon while being Blood bent. Also, his sacrifice play of shooting continuous lightning at the spirit vine power core inside the Colossus was pretty gnarly.
i would just like to add kyoshi to the earthbender list cause she manage to create kyoshi island by herself, well yeah technically she used both airbending and earthbending to make that island.but still managing to seperate the island is pretty amazing.
These characters were written better than the majority of Boruto.
That’s a pretty low bar to reach😂
It's crazy how you could've easily referenced how good the Avatar series is without shitting on something else. Could've started productive conversation, but chose to be toxic. Idk why this isn't a insecurity more people have.
Fans like u need to go bro 🎉 toxicity is getting old now grow up
Well one guy spreads boruto sucks and then the norm all Jump in the bandwagon but I will admit that I hate boruto because I heard there was misogyny despite knowing I should have watch first before making a decision but I hate long series
@@twocents3050crazy how you wrote a phycological analysis on a dude hating on a 3/10 show
Also Jinora got her tattoo at 11, but it’s part of the plot that she probably should’ve gotten them sooner but Tenzin refused to acknowledge that she was ready
I think Lavabending is a Genetic Ability only possible with children born of the union of Firebender and Earthbender Bloodlines. Given the hundred year war, those unions became rare.
Lava is just hot earth just like ice is just frozen water.
Rocku lava bend
Yeah, avatars and people who have both.
what about sun and ghazan
@@locrianphantom3547
Firebenders also have slight healing abilities. It was mentioned in the Kyoshi books.
Wasn’t that spiritual healing?
It was also shown in season 2 of korra when she got amnesia from evil spirits those fire bending ladies helped her
Well cauterization is a kind of medical technique, so I guess we can say that fire can heal. 😂
Firebending and lightning bending are forms of energy manipulation. Just like how water bending and airbending have spiritual categories, it makes sense for fire to have one too.The reason we haven't seen this often is because most firebenders are just about throwing fireballs and some small blasts
I always thought that a Firebending healing modality would be like Reiki since it comes from their chi.
Don’t forget Toph also did something that most Earthbenders can’t: she learned fluid Earthbending. Most Earthbenders keep the Earth as solid masses when they bend, Toph when she was a Granny training Korra showed she could bend mud as a fluid plus when she fled from those guys after learning metal bending and trapping them in their own cage she did more fluid earth bending. Only one other Earthbender known could do this: Yun from the Kyoshi novels who could turn stone into liquid (not lava like actual cool to touch liquid stone) and back like a waterbender does with water and ice
Iroh was so extra to fire blast the Walls of Ba Sing Se during Sozin's Comet when literally Bumi (the guy who topple an entire presumably iron statue) was there.
Fun fact about the lava benders that weren't avatars, I believe booth of their parents were fire and earth benders.
Except Kyoshi
@@maadtee6281 Kyoshi is an avatar.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the only way you can have that ability
@@kaleknelson8429 not all avatars can lava bend
@@saraautio5693 Lava Benders that Were not Avatars, was one of the first things I said. Because here's another fun fact, all avatars after the first one to do it could Lava Bend. Through access to the avatar state, which confers the abilities of every past avatar to the one using it. Because If we're being honest even roku Used the power of the avatar state to bend the Lava in the Volcano he was battling. he just took his sweet time doing it. By the time he was done, The gasses had gotten to him. The clip of the Avatar we see lava bending in the show was also him using the Avatar state.
Ozai Is the best at firebending, as stated by the creators. Irohs attack on the wall was very impressive but it took him a while of charge up and was not sustainable at all, not to mention his lightning took much longer to conjure and had less volume. Ozai was able to sustain a fire blast larger than irohs blast with little effort nearly single handedly burning the earth nation to the ground.
Amon as a bloodbender is the very best. But he's also the most subtle. He only dances between bending attacks because he bloodbends his oponents slightly off course. Same way as Pyrha in rwby moves people's weapons to barely miss her or always hit her shield.
Yeah, Toph and Bumi were quite OP in their own rights, and in bending pure Earth I would argue that both of them were on near equal terms, with Toph's youth and blind-bending experience giving her much of an edge... I mean Bumi didn't really have to move his body much at all to bend perfectly! *Wiggles nose travels back through city in a large metal box...*
There’s a healer water bender named Atuat in the Kyoshi series. She created a technique where she is able to use her bending in order to lower a patients body temperature to prevent death until she’s able to get them fully healed
I have to say, Mako should be mention here, he can generate lightning so fast and with so minimal movement he can do it, while being bloodbend. Also other firebender like Iroh, Ozai, Azula only shown a short burst of lightning, only Zolt and Mako was shown shooting a continuous stream of lightning (vs Spirit Vines).
Sadly, he's biased against LoK, definitely agree with you
I think that's because you couldn't throw a continuos stream of lightning in the original series
@@Luigi-hn1hu I think there’s a possibility but it would require someone to really learn the technique and just improve on it.
I give credit where credit is due, But Mako, yes lighting cool, I don’t like Korra all that much but Bolín definitely is pretty great
I think the greatest waterbender is Ming Hua. Like Toph, her bending was her way of interacting with the world. She is the most offensive waterbender ever and could hold her own against multiple extremely skilled benders at once. She didn't even need the subsets of waterbending to be badass.
Though her weakness is that she need to be in contact with water making her vulnerable to lightning (unless she was capable of making frozen arms)
She is for sure good. But she is not well-rounded. Her water-bending mostly swirls around using water and ice as flexible replacement for her missing hands.
But she is not as good in bending water directly.
In earth bending he forget the sub category glass bending from one of the books that’s not talked about enough
Kyoshi moved a pretty sizable chunk of earth to make her own island and it doesn’t even get a mention?!
She had a boost from the avatar state to perform that feat, so we assume she can't pull that off with just her regular Earth bending.
@@controlman7490 hmmmm this is a good point
@@controlman7490 Also, pretty sure she used air bending as well during that, so it isn't even a strictly earth bending feat
Most master benders: *learn to incorporate aspects from other bending styles to improve their own techniques.*
Toph: *simply turns earth bending up to 11.*
Because earth is low-key them ost diverse element .it can be as fluid as sand and mud, while also being as strong as metal. Earth can be precise like sand bending an entire city into the ground, or as bold as metal bending an entire fire nation war ship. As well as seismic sense giving you an almost airbending level of psychic connecting to the ground and neutral jing which is basically the main principle of manululatiig energies in water bending. Earth bending is just too diverse lol
this is one of the best videos to show someone who's never seen avatar because it shows the best
What's really cool to me is that toph was able to do everything hundreds of feet above the ground in blimps she's so far out of her comfort zone and in Combat and still able to focus enough to metal bend everything
Didn't Amon create a giant water spout the size of a small building without moving his arms in his final confrontation? I might be misrerembering the no movement thing, but I think he was able to psychically bend the ocean too, and even if not, that was one of the most impressive feats of raw power we've seen from a waterbender.
Amon is probably a great water bender, we just never got to see him use it much.
@@correlgamers7518 For sure, just mentioning that the one waterbending feat we have from him is absolutely monstrous.
His water sprout was literally taller than a portion of the pro bending arena, which was already like 15-20 stories tall, so yea, Amon's water bending is just as powerful as his blood bending.
@@controlman7490 I agree, and that movement thing is comparable to hovering on an element with the avatar state which also shows how skilled of a waterbender Amon was.
Yea it's been a while, but I don't remember anyone other than Aang water bend that much water.
Nick completely forgot about Avatar Yangchen's Deadly Sonicbending, with screams that can create Earthquakes and kill people.
Don't discount the Novels!
Toph actually did meet a lava bender in the comics when she was 14 trying to start her school. Lava bending and mental bending seem to be something you have to be born with because toph couldn't lava bend no matter what and the lava bender couldn't figure out mental bending
ex. bolin
It is likely that in order to be lava Bender your parents must be earth and fire benders maybe grandparents if you feel generous, do that's may be why lava bending is so rare
I just love how every bending element has a bunch of potential people better in certain categories and then you get to earth and it's pretty much all toph except for lava bending. I like to think she could've learned it but it seems like it wasnt really done until the prisoner in korra. When roku did it in the original series i always assumed he could do that because he could firebend and earthbend
Lightning Bending becomes so much more common in LoK that the overall base skill is higher than those of ATLA. Mako himself is shown to be able to produce lightning quickly and with little to no wind-up. He is even shown producing constant streams of lightning alongside other laborers. Mako is kind of just better by default.
Eh, I’d say that’s a continuity error rather than an example of stronger characters. The whole point of lightning bending was that only perfect and complete balance and control could wield it, shown in cold-blooded characters like Ozai and Azula who used total control over themselves and their qi to bend it to their will and the man who found a perfect inner balance, Iroh, who could manipulate it freely with skill.
I think it’s that LoK wanted to have more ‘cool bending’ and so made it more common. It could be argued that people figured out an easier way to lightning bend in an age of electricity, but even then, it still means Ozai is stronger if he was doing it by those old standards. I think it was a little underwhelming to have so many more lightning benders in LoK when it was clearly such a difficult ability which gave so much characterisation to show how skilled characters were beyond just their raw power.
@@midnight4685 I kind of disagree. I think it makes total sense for more complex bending to be studied and simplified for an industrial era.
It was likely less about the writers and more about how modernization is about efficiency and convenience over things like spirituality. I can imagine safety manuals that warn people how to safely control lightning without injury.
I also want to clarify that lightning redirection is about balance. Lightning generation is about implementing water bending theory into fire bending. And neither Ozai nor Azula knew about redirection. Azula certainly was out of balance and out of control when she shot lightning at Katara. Was that also a continuity error?
@@K2ParaContinuity error may not have been the right word. I meant that there was a disconnect between how TLA lightning-benders worked and how LoK lightning-benders worked. I wouldn't consider the unnamed labourers in the factories as masters, though they've probably shot more lightning than Azula has. TLA's lightning-bending clearly requires a lot of skill and mastery, LoK's doesn't. So it's not a fair comparison to consider Mako better than Azula, who trained her whole life.
My point still stands, even if it was about efficiency, the older benders would still be the strongest. I already addressed that in my original reply.
And I do think it was on the writers, at least in part - they were moving their world into an electrical one, it makes sense that they'd want lightning-bending, but the way they did it with no explanation or replacement still feels pretty cheap. LoK doesn't replace it with any styles to symbolise mastery of firebending (or really any bending). You're born to lavabend, to combustion bend, have a genetic advantage to bloodbend. The only one that is close is metalbending, but unlike lightning-bending, we never see how difficult it is for random people to pick up in TLA (it was just a new way to look at metal), so it's believable.
I did some googling, and it is explained in an art book for Book 1 of TLA that lightning bending was artificially restricted as knowledge held only by the royal family, according to reddit. It'd be cooler if that was put in either show, but even so, there's a skill gap.
Your point about lightning generation is a good one, I conflated the two, I take back what I said about balance. But I still do think it requires less skill than it does in LoK and it seems we both agree on that. That was what it was used for in TLA, and would explain why Azula could use it in a moment of desperation, because she'd had it drilled into her constantly. In TLA, lightning was to showcase mastery of firebending. It showed the audience how dangerous these characters were who had been able to not only master their own basic element but transform it into something beyond strength into cold precision, with their own total control and concentration. Some unnamed factory workers just do not have that. A random guy, never explained to be a prodigy, who learnt to firebend on a sports team doesn't match that, even if he can lightning-bend, he can't lightning-bend like Azula or Ozai.
So Mako isn't fair to place above Azula, Ozai and Iroh because the different shows have what is essentially two completely different types of lightning-bending, which is why I mentioned the writers. The writers placed different levels of weight on them: one requires a huge skill level, one is easily accessible to facilitate the world. So I think in this tier list, the one that requires more skill is fair to place as the best, that being Ozai.
@@midnight4685 You make a lot of good points. It is definitely possible that old lightning bending could require more skill due to the principles and more traditional methods used to control it. But I think it's very similar to metal bending in that we don't see how difficult it is to learn lightning bending. Only that it is restricted to the royal family. We only see Zuko struggling to learn redirection, but he is a character who always struggles.
I think your way of thinking is reasonable, but I also think we have no true way of knowing which is correct. But I choose to believe that the mass spread of bending methods and knowledge does not necessarily make the more efficient technique inferior. I look at it more like the royal family having flintlock rifles versus being able to buy a modern rifle at a local firearm shop. The weapon is more readily available now, but it has also evolved in other ways.
In this way, I think it's fair to assume that other practices can be superior. Like how Korra learned the modernized boxing style of bending from Mako and Bolin. It actually improved on her fighting capabilities even though it wasn't traditional.
I want to say here that I do not think Mako reaches the levels of Azula and Ozai in terms of fighting prowess. I simply think it's possible that Mako has access to more combat knowledge and that this may also apply to (possibly) having a better understanding of lightning bending. I think it's fair for Azula, Iroh, and Ozai to be considered true masters for their era, but I see limits of what it takes to be master grow even higher as time passes.
I hope I'm conveying my point clearly enough. In conclusion, I don't really see any flaw in either of our ways of thinking. I'm just on the side that bending has reached a higher place of comprehension and mastery than in the past. We also don't really get to see what the modern fire bending master looks like in LoK due to fire bending taking a backseat in the series.
@@K2Para Yeah, fair enough. I personally think that lightning on its own conveys feelings of that refinement, and my brain is telling me faintly that there were lines in TLA about the sheer power of lightning and the technique and all that. But yeah, when the differences are more symbolic than anything, it'd be tough to compare pure skill. I might not be as smart as Newton but I can do things he never knew about, and that's a fair point to make. At the same time, I would never consider myself as smart as Newton. So we'd both be 'strongest' in different ways, which I think is the conclusion we reached.
As a sidenote, I was personally disappointed with LoK when I watched it, so I am a bit biased against it too, though I tried to keep the bias away.
With the visual distance Toph had, you would need nothing less than blimbs to be able to capture anything from her. Tanks would just fall apart long before they even seen the city, boats would be a challenge but I'm sure she'd figure something out, planes are way to noisy, just trying to walk up would be pointless.
Also Yang Chen is the greatest Airbender, --- she can rip the air out of the lungs of any targets she wants without ever letting anyone know what's happening until it's too late and she can do this with multiple targets at once, she's not limited to one like Zaheer.
They dont read novels bro. fake fans need pictures
Aang could do that too. Easily, he just didn’t. He is a pacifist
@@paulimosh lol. That’s not how feats work.
@@KaiserRebI mean if ur goin off “feats” aang still have a lot more impressive feats than her tho so I don’t understand
@@JoshuaTomp splitting and opening dimension > whatever aang has ever done
Toph is such an interesting well developed character. She is OP, but at the same time she's blind. That's how you create an OP character, lovable and relatable.
Avatar: The Last Airbender was ahead of his time.
We need a part 3 .even more dark and complex the LOk
Also Jinora got her tattoos at 11 based on the opinion and bias of one dude, her father, and while to his credit Tenzin is pretty fair and conservative with such judgements (he definitely understood the responsibility on his shoulders of upholding the ways of an entire culture), it's still one dude and he's still her dad. Jinora may absolutely have deserved her tattoos at 11, who's to say really? But just on principle, the decision between Aang receiving his and Jinora receiving hers aren't comparable.
Yes, there was a whole panel of people that likely over saw Aang's training and progress.
The training Jinora got was likely slightly watered down. Using memory and what ever left over information that may still exist in text. But bias? Likely not as Tenzen did say she wasn't ready, unitl she had passed the Airbending training level of her time.
wasn't her dad more of a weakness to her getting her tattoos than a strength? Like all of season 3, Jinora was trying to prove to her dad she was an airbending master, and even mastered a skill Tenzin never was able to do when Tenzin was considered an airbending master.
@@rachelroyce278this lends credence to it. How many people were there to raise Tenzen to his position?
In the time before the annihilation there were dozens if not hundreds of masters. They had councils that governed who would be selected. Tenzen simply can't match that alone.
Yes his daughter may have been ready sooner but also, the requirements most definitely have changed. The air nomads were effectively reverted to a more infantile state of their former selves.
22:36 If you were listening in the show, you would know Zseto was in the avatar state while bending the lava
I think you forgot that toph actually learned lava bending in one of the comics. It certainly doesn’t make her great at it but she did learn the basics I believe
Considering it's Toph, her learning how to do something basically guarantees that she's going to be great at it shortly after, as her quick mastery over Sand and Metal bending can attest to, lol
She can’t lavabend
@@jasonmoukala8909 what is bro saying
@@thearmyofiron I don’t even remember this
@@jasonmoukala8909 now you do :D
The 'pea lie' got me😂😂
Zaheer, imo, is the better air bender. Not only was he the 2nd air bender to ever fly, he mastered it in a significantly shorter time than the air bending geniuses. Where aang and Jenora took 12 and 11 years, Zaheer mastered air bending and flight in about a week. Then ,while imprisoned, he guided Korra to the spirit world with no spiritual shrines or anything connect to the spirit world around him. Plus, no need for an air scooter when you can fly. If Zaheer had 12 years of air bending, he'd be much better than he already is.
Zaheer studied air nomad culture and techniques for his whole life even when he wasn’t a bender because he found it interesting so when he got his airbending he was straight baddass.
Aang and Jinora were still children, while Zaheer was an adult who had been fighting and studying air bending his entire life. Tenzin beat him, so a full power Aang would've done the same.
Aang and the others would never have learned to fly ever in their lives but not because they were weak, just because they had earthly ties. If Katara had died Aang probably could have picked up flying easy enough
the entirety of Toph's story is centered of the necessity of survival. I bet, as an earthbender, that her name is a derived version of Tuff, a kind of rock. but I beleive it's meant as "tough". When you look at it, everything she did was centered around the necessity of survival:
She learned seismic sense so she could see, but initially because she got lost in a cave.
She develloped her earthbending style in a fighting arena.
She learned sandbending because she had to to save her friends.
She learned metalbending because she felt treaten and needed it to save herself.
Later, she learned mudbending because she needed it to live in her swamp.
The only way she knew how to teach Aang earthbendign was through putting him and Sokka in harms way, with boulders and her rock armor.
I'm convinced the only reason Korra learned metalbending and not Aang is because Korra's life was endangered and needed it to survive. She learned it from Toph. Meanwhile, when Aang tried to learn it, he couldn't, probably because he trusted his friendship with Toph enough so he did not really feel treaten by her, while her other students where terrified of her.
She never learned Lavabending because it never was a mean of survival for her.
Also, I'm convinced the only reason Jinora got her tattoos at 11 while Aang got them at 12 was because the traditions where sadly lost with Aang. Aang was the last airbender in the traditionnal sense, while Tenzin was the first of the "new era" of airbender, meaning that at some point, wether we like it or not, there is no way for Tenzin to be up to date with the old traditions, meaning that while being the most traditionnal airbender of LoK, he still lacked the criticism level of the old masters, and being the only master able to grant tatoos probably lead to his daughter being judged an airbending master prematurely. Though she probably would've still got them at a young age, I don't think the old masters would've made her a master at that age.
Correction thou korra never learned metal bending from toph she learned it from sue toph's youngest daughter. Also don't forget that all this happened in Zhao fu the metal city where toph created it and also had her own police force where also sue and her family lived. "Reference sn 3 korra"
Well you were explaining the fire stuff I got worried who you were going to name the superior firebender
Then you came through with Uncle Iroh who legitimately was the very best
They should honestly do a spin-off show of just his travels finding the Great library ,learning from the dragons ECT..
Iroh is the goat hand down
I like how the video just turns into a Toph Documentary after the element we are discussing is Earth. Pretty good video!
Even though she doesn't have many feats, Kyoshi is another person who could give Toph a run for her money as well as Aang when it came to air bending. Its a little unclear if she used only air bending or air and earth bending to create Kyoshi island, but either way, it is EXTEREMELY impressive since Kyoshi is practically in the middle of the ocean. Not to mention Kyoshi was roughly 300 years old when she died (making her the longest lived Avatar. For people who don't know, the ability to extend your life is an earthbending technique), so she has hundreds of years of practice under her belt, possibly allowing her to eclipse everyone on this list.
Edit: I just remembered there are cannon comics about Kyoshi. She lived for 230 years, which is still at least twice as long as any other avatar. She probably is the strongest bender in all of the basic categories since she had a problem when she initially started bending, which was that she was terrible at manipulating elements on a small scale, but she was monsterous at manipulating huge chunks of the elements. For example, before she was even a full fledged avatar, she was able to use her earth bending to uproot the sea floor to take out an entire fleet of ships by herself. Considering she developed an earth bending technique called dust walking (which is when she creates clouds of dust she can WALK ON) she definitely overcame her one weakness.
Kyoshi definitely used earth bending to move Kyoshi Island. because if she only used air bending then that would be a level 1 million Tornado and Qin the conqueror would have died flying away because he and his soldiers were directly hit by the air. the air was probably just to show off and to humiliate Qin by stripping him off his clothes.
Hold the fuck on. Dust walking? So dust bending exists?
@Reginlaze Yup, and as far as we know (assuming it isn't just sand bending at a much smaller level), she is the only person who has done it.
@@demiurge2763 That's crazy. Well dust bending opens up the door for being able to bend particles of any size as long as they are related to earth, rock and minerals. Honestly I was thinking of dust bending to be either lighter or heavier than sand bending, and often thought of a dust storm as a bending move. With dust dealing death by a 1000 paper cuts type of dmg
she has the most feats in the verse lol.
I also feel like just because Ozai has the ability to use immense amounts of lightning, Iroh would still have the mental focus and the sheer will to diffuse it like he has shown he has the skill to do.
Kiyoshi during the earth bending part:
This man loves to say the names of characters as goofily as possible
At this point, I am inclined to believe that it’s intentional lmao
The M Knight treatment. Surprised he didn’t say Ong
Things that are very difficult to quantify in lists like this are factors such as if something was known to be possible or the legality of it.
Aang is probably one of if not the best Airbender in history. This being said, certain information he was not aware of or at least was not shown to be. Zaheer indicated that the ability to fly was an obscure fact lost to time that requires a user to fully detach themselves from the earth, for which he has to do when entering the avatar state. His granddaughter "created" the spirit projection ability, which got her the tattoos, long after his death but he did the exact same thing accidentally when Sokka was taken by the panda spirit, heibi?
Lava bending, metal, lightning and even blood bending were very niche skills because the method to perform them were not passed down to the masses. Blood, combustion, and lava bending were seen as a taboo because they were initially used as tools of war/crime. All of these could be of great use in a civilized society if wielded by good people, as seen with the lightning bending becoming a factory job.
Got dam rightin a whole ass essay
@@Crua06 clearly you don’t write* much
@@kzbutler612 nah i dont g
BRO STOP SAYING SO MANY NAMES WRONG
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“pee-lie” was crazy
For regular waterbending, I must give the title to Unalaq, instead of Katara. He is the only bending grandmaster, possibly in history, that has ever succeeded fighting (or at least fend off) a fully realised Avatar.
Some might argue, that it's due to his fusion with Vaatu. Keep in mind that Vaatu only adds to his waterbending power when he enters the dark avatar state. Other than that, the power, versatility and creativity he displayed with waterbending when he fought Avatar Korra is very much from his own prowess.
Actually no when he fought Korra he has avatar like powers from Vartuo
@Major Moha Nope, re-watch the entire fight between him and Korra. For the majority of the fight he wasn't in the avatar state. Now tbf neither was Korra, but still the fact he matched Korra in power while she had all 4 elements and was in perfect shape with just water bending is a feat within it's self.
@@controlman7490 his bending was still boosted from the merge with vaatu. You could tell because every fight he was in before the merge with Vaatu, his bending was never that powerful until he merged with Vaatu. So it stands to reason that his bending was till boosted just from the merge
Ok yea I was looking for this . Hoping to find someone who actually watched korra and the worst season of all of avatar to know that unolag was busted . Crazy strong . He shows high proficiency in all water bending styles and no one else does like this . Yea I do absolutely think he beats amon and literally goes for a killing blow on Katara. Even a blood lusted katara would find the killing blow like he would ..just like kovirea. It made know sense he was that good. He's just probably the best bender in the show right behind toph .
@@komlat253 No one but avatars are beating Amon or Yakone, unless we’re talking about Unavaatu
I really enjoyed this video. I love ATLA so it always makes me happy seeing it get the love and attention it deserves.
Having said that, the way you pronounce Kuvira’s name should be a criminal offense 😂
is this just me but everytime he said Yakone as “Ya-Co-Nae” instead of “Ya-Cone” makes you just a little bit mad mad each time
The name pronunciations are giving me Live Action ATLA vibes
I honestly think Katara could beat Amon even if it is not a full moon, Amon's habilities improve because of practice, he couldn't blood bend without the full moon rigth away,he spends years learning and practicing to do that,Katara literally won on a blood bend battle against the inventor a few minutes later of knowing bloodbend existed. If she had train she would easily win Amon, she just didn't. Also Katara was only 14 years old in ATLA and already the greatest watter master in the world, in the comics she improves a lot,she can bend with her feet and plant bend and she is not even a year older than she was in ATLA, in over 60 years, we can only imagine how much better she gets.
I understand your rationale
KATARA is arguably the most powerful WATERBENDER in the franchise
I believe she hold back b'se she's never bloodlusted 😢
But
Southern raiders' episode proved that Katara was op 🙌🏿
Once she hits her lowest (having closure to her mom's murderer) she's unstoppable
I believe yakone family would dominate Katara in bloodbending until KATARA hits her lowest point, and it'll be over for Amon ☠️& every other
Especially if one of gaang got killed
One thing to add about Iroh, he was able to react to lightning striking the ship in the storm, and was also able to shoot lightning while running away from Azula with Zuko at the kings palace
There's some craaazy earthbending in the Kyoshi novels, even more impressive than Kyoshi herself is her childhood friend Yun who does the type of earthbending that'll rip the iron out from your blood Magneto style
Yun best earth bender until further notice
Yun was amped by eating Father Glowworm but he's defintely one of the best earthbenders in canon yes
@@Flipitmixit Oh right he ATE an ancient fucking spirit I forgot about that😂
@@MILOPETIT Yea savage😂
Honorable mentions for each element
Water: Ming Hua, Korra
Air: Tenzin, Zaheer, Yang Chen, Monk Gyatsu
Fire: Azula, Jang Jang,
Earth: King Bumi, Kuvira, Bolin
Gazon (red lotus) takes Bumi and Bolin, maybe not Kuvira
@@scottylindsay8506 bolin was able to hold his own with gazon after just learning he could lavabend, and vastly improved over the time skip he was the second best bender in kuvira’s army right behind herself. People really seem to underestimate him, especially when he’s got some of the best precision and weight bending feats in the series.
@@JDWalker495 very good point! And my memory of season 4 is pretty hazy so that’s probably why I thought that
@@scottylindsay8506 Lmao, Kuvira would get destroyed by all those guys you just mentioned. She's a metal bending master, but her base Earth bending is adequate. Still a master Earth bender, but her feats are nothing compared to Bolin, Bumi or Ghazan.
Yea very good list. Ming Hua was nasty yo .haha idk about Bolin tho. His normal earth bending is only good right and he can't metal bend. He simply has the rare skill to lava bend. Toph seems to imply not all benders can simply learn so idk
Nice video but one caveat, Jinora didn't invent spirit projection, Aang was the first one to use that technique in the Hei Bai episode (don't remember the name), but for all we know she used it more efficiently than aang though.
Tenzin made an improvement on the air scooter in the air wheel. Also tenzin can do anything aang can in regards to airbending
I don’t know if I’d call it an improvement but it’s definitely his own original creation
But yeah I’d call them equals in everything but raw power, mainly because aang’s an avatar, and they all get a natural boost to their home element.
@@JDWalker495 yea that seems fair
When he gets his fight ,he shows that he's pretty op just don't have the raw power as aang but same skill set
Well i think mako was also a great lightning bender. He fried his enemy by using it when she was in water, so he technically is the only one with a real lightning kill. It also came in clutch against amon
Let's not forget when he used it on kuvira machine. But it's not as fast and deadly as Ozai
@@maadtee6281 I think Mako's lightning is as fast Ozai's. When he shot Amon he generated lightning immediately, same as Ozai. Mako is an incredible master of lightning bending.
@@controlman7490 yeah but isn't that powerful he needs time to do that. Ozai doesn't
@@maadtee6281 No, he doesn't. Can you read? I just told you that Mako can generate lightning immediately. The same way Ozai can. Their level of lighting bending is actually surprisingly close.
@@controlman7490 dude ozai lightning it's much more deadlier then even Azula whom almost took out aang Mako lightning needs time to be that dangerous which is proven with kuvira machine
Toph herself can be seen as a prodigy amongst the superstars of the world. As everyone said she picked up quick, also applying theory to practicality. If she couldn’t see she found another sense, she is someone who completes puzzles to actively solve issues in real-time.
20:10 Did Nick really just say Toph could bend any metal she could see 😂
She see with feet sesmic sense
I think Monk Gyatso would definitely qualify as one of the strongest air benders ever. Even aang said hes the best air bender
The unbendable platinum never made sense to me. Chemically speaking, the purest metal is gold; it’s cliché, but it’s true. The only reason I could think of why they went with platinum in LOK is because platinum sounds less hackneyed.
Another thing about Toph's Seismic Sense is that, I'm fairly certain that old Toph in LoK, can feel vibrations through the earth so precisely, she is able to see Liberty City across the world
That’s because of those vines in the swamp. Remember the episode in atla where the Gaang meets those plant benders? That’s the same swamp that Toph lives in tlok, she even says the vines are everywhere and that’s pretty much how she’s able to see just about everything because of those vines. However it’s still pretty impressive because of her being able to seismic sense. I think only others can slightly feel it, but she can see through them.
Bro what are these pronunciations???? You messed up sooooo many names
Exactly. I can’t believe he pronounced Sparky Sparky Boom Man so wrong smh 😤😤😤
Katara is really best waterbender and one of the most powerful. She is prodigy ❤❤ I loved her Character Arc from a simple Girl who just can't lift water to a bloodbender. Woah she was easily my favorite character. and remember Katara learned Bloodbending instantly shows she is very powerful 👑
How come you're pronouncing so many things wrong when they're pronounced as they are in the show lol. Yakone not YA-KU-NE, not everything has to be weebafied lol.
Mans really said kataro 😂
Pea-lye tho 😂 I don't think he's weebifying, I think he's "ragebaiting"
Yea its roughly chinese inspired but he thinks bc its anime its Japanese which its not and Chinese and Japanese are different sounding languages
As far as regular water bending goes I'd say Ming-Hua os toe to toe with Katara, she literally used it as an extension of herself and she used water/ice bending in really clever and creative ways. Air bending I'd give to Yangchen, I really love Aang but I mean it's Yangchen. Metal bending it's a pretty similar situation as water bending, Toph invented the bending and was pretty profficient with it, but Su Yin literally founded a city based in metal bending (also I love the scene that she's doing acrobatics while incorporating metal bending). Lava bending hands down goes to Ghazan, while Szeto does bend lava from four volcanoes, Ghazan uses it an more creative way (just like Ming-Hua) and was able to melt the great walls of Ba Sing Se. Comments aside, I really love season 3 of Korra and yes I'm 110% biased
Another thing to add to P'Li's superiority in combustion bending, Sparky Sparky Boom Boom had prosthetic limbs (which implies he exploded himself before) and P'li had all her limbs
the only example weve seen of Szeto is so much more powerful than anything ghazan even attempted, just because ghazan got more screentime doesn't mean the only lava-bending Szeto was capable of was the 2 seconds we saw. your Su Yin vs Toph argument is ridiculous, toph could easily have created the city Su Yin did and toph literally says that she isn't good at metal bending.
@@jamierogers8995 Szeto maybe could bend more sheer amount of lava than Ghazan, but it's prettt clear he wad a diplomat, just by being the Avatar alone he should be pretty good in combat but the screentime is really lacking. We see Szeto bends enormous amount lava, but he was alone, in a calm environment while basically everything Ghazan did was fight, which is a completly different thing. With very little information we have about Szeto it's pretty safe to assume that Ghazan ingenuity in combat puts him above Szeto
@@jamierogers8995 Szeto maybe could bend more sheer amounts of lava than Ghazan, but it's pretty clear he was a diplomat, just by being the Avatar alone he should be pretty good in combat but the screentime is really lacking. We see Szeto bends enormous amount lava, but he was alone, in a calm environment while basically everything Ghazan did was fight, which is a completly different thing. With very little information we have about Szeto it's pretty safe to assume that Ghazan's ingenuity in combat puts him above Szeto
@@brunokreutz6710 Szeto's raw power would decimate ghazan in a fight, no diff
For lavabending- you forgot avatar kyoshi! she lavabended an entire island away from the earth kingdom mainland while airbending to make it faster! i think she was definitely a contender for greatest earthbender.
Toph is a great character.
Seriously she was my favorite character in the show so I was Hella disappointed how she turned out in Kora