@redherringoffshoot2341 It's not a cost-cutting method in this case, simply a placeholder. It would be a money saver if it were asset reuse that made it into the retail game, but admittedly, Batman would look out of place in The Lord of the Rings.
I didn’t realize they were developing a TDKR tie in game- I always assumed after the cancellation of the Dark Knight game that they gave up on tie ins and embraced the original story video games following Arkham Asylum
That looks like sonar vision. It's probably more like Splinter Cell: Conviction where it's a late game unlock and only works at short range and while standing still to put some reasonable restrictions on it
And another game full of missed potential gets the attention of the public. I swear, it's the projects people actually want that ultimately end up getting scrapped. This game, the cancelled Flash game for the Xbox 360 & a Superman game years ago. It's like the second there's a money making idea, it gets thrown out the window. Shame because even though I haven't gotten the chance to play Batman Begins myself, from what I've seen it looks pretty cool & fun. So I definitely would've loved a follow up with improvements.
@@inshal6420 I too am happy with the Arkham games. However, those didn't have to be the only Batman games. And by only ones, I mean the ones 90% of people will say are great.
I think they wanted to have a build that they could show Christopher Nolan when they got in touch with him first a better chance at getting his approval and from what I have seen I think he would given them the Green light.
WB is the king of making bad decisions with DC. I love that this Batman’s fighting style is a mixture of Karate, Ninjutsu, Jujitsu, and Kung-fu. I personally think Batman’s fighting style should be similar to Wesley Snipes' Blade but nonlethal. The only thing I dislike is the overreliance on the advanced suit and cowl tech. Batman is supposed to be a shadow due to his mastery of Ninjutsu not from stealth tech in the suit. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective he shouldn't need advanced cowl tech detective mode as he is the detective mode. This is the same problem I had with the Arkham series as well. To me, less is more with gadgets/tech, armor, and allies when it comes to Batman.
To an extent I agree but can I ask u what I thought of the Dark Knight Trilogy? That version of Batman was very tech-heavy. Do you like Pattinson more because he's more of a brawler? I find this take fascinating and just wanted to get more of ur thoughts
@@donovangomez9489 no I'm with you on your Dark Knight Trilogy criticism. That Batman was ninja James Bond who needs a Q Lucius Fox to build. Batman is supposed to be Ninja Doc Savage as he is his own Q since his inception in 1939. With Batman less is more with gadgets, tech and allies. His legendary scientific, deductive, tactical and combative prowess should've been on display. Now to your Pattinson point l. To me the only good things about this movie are the cinematography is AMAZING, The upside-down shot in the rain 👌, Colin Ferrell Penguin's performance is great, the make-up on Penguin deserved an Oscar, and Gotham for once looked dreary like Gotham is supposed to be. To me, everything else is mediocre at best.
@@FriendlyBatDoom Wow I find that fascinating. I thought u would like Pattinson more since he makes his own gadgets and uses more physicality versus tech. What are ur thoughts on the DCAU Batman. He's not as tech-heavy but at the same time I know u said u prefer Batman with less allies so is the Bat family an issue for u?
@@donovangomez9489 I loved that part of the character however he can't spellcheck Spanish and claims to be the shadows just to knock on the front door of the Iceberg Lounge allowing everyone to see he’s just a man dressed up. Batman’s supposed to come across as a supernatural wraith come to punish evildoers due to his Legendary intellectual and combative prowess. Batman to me should also fight more like RE5 Albert Wesker without the super speed with style and a mixture of Live-action Himura Kenshin and Ip Man. Instead we keep getting more of a brawler Batman which isn't something I like.
@@FriendlyBatDoom I can't defend the spell checking Spanish but I feel like Pattinson is in transition to become the Batman we know and love. True he may not be as stealthy and as skilled as we may like but he is only in his second year. I'm holding my judgement until the second movie comes out and we can see how he grows...
The combat system sounds like devil may cry combat system which probably is like pauses in between attacks to pull off a different/alt move or continue a normal based attack? Also this game sounds very awesome 🗿😭
I like that Monolith tried to do something similar yet different with this game rather than just copying and pasting the formula from the Arkham games. I really would have liked to have played this.
Tbh I don’t really see anything that great with it. This most likely would have been forgotten like the Amazing Spider-Man games. Movie licence games are almost never good.
The Nemesis system and the different fighting stances would've made it memorable lmao As much as I like Arkham, free flow is basic whereas with Shadow of Mordor, you have to strategise since enemies plan their attacks when they see you
Would been cool if this game released, if we could get nolanverse versions villains like Riddler, Penguin, Black Mask, or even Clayface. (If you wanna know how clayface could fit into the nolanverse, I think his early apearences can give you an idea.)
Good video and analysis. I'll be the first to admit I'd have bought this game, and it had some cool ideas, but I have no idea why they would think locking skills and abilities Arkham Asylum and City had already made standard behind an upgrade tree. Especially considering they'd (in theory) be releasing it the year after Arkham City. I know they were both developed around the same time, but a lot of the stuff they had you upgrading was core stuff you could do back in Asylum. Just seems a very odd choice. I mean, if I'm developing a Batman game, one of the first things I'm doing is playing all the other Batman games to find out what was good and we should keep, and what was bad and what we should avoid/fix. Also, based on some of the stuff I've learned in the last few years about Christopher Nolan and his "ownership" of the Dark Knight trilogy, I tend to believe that Batman: Gotham Knight and the Batman Begins video game being made were nothing short of miraculous. Chip Zdarsky tried to get Bale's Batman to appear in a recent comic he did, but was told by WBD/DC's legal team that Bale's Batman and the Nolan Trilogy is completely off limits. It seems Nolan's contract to make those movies stipulated that he was the only person who could or would allow his version of those characters to appear in any medium, period.
Is that just WB being protective of it or Nolan? It’s their most successful Batman project ever so it makes sense. I would assume they treat their Joker movies the same. Its just very weird they would give a director that much control over a licenced character. I have never heard of this happening before.
@@inshal6420 I’m pretty sure it’s just Nolan. Zdarsky was able to use Keaton’s Batman, West’s Batman, Conroy’s Batman in BTAS and the Arkham series…it was like he had carte blanche on the entire franchise, but with an embargo on the Nolan trilogy outright.
@@WarpingFistthey can bring it back either in the current Reeves Batman universe or a general purpose Batman aesthetic unlikely but who knows might happen if Wonderwoman proves successful
@@Back2LifeI know but a part of me just feels like I dong know like I heard somewhere I feel like here or somewhere on UA-cam where it was supposed to be used the Nemesis system and well the Batmobile was supposed to be used in the 08 dark knight game it’s really hard to tell but still I wished this game came out
I really like the Batman Gotham Knight movie, but I think the fan made series Joker blogs has more of a likley hood to be cannon to the Nolan trilogy than that movie.
Thanks for having me on.
Thanks for taking the time to help me with this.
@@WarpingFist The pleasure is all mine.
Fun fact the Batman model Monolith made for this game ended up being used as a place holder for Talion in early builds of Shadow of Mordor
that’s common practice in in the video game industry, as it’s often used for lessening costs
@redherringoffshoot2341 It's not a cost-cutting method in this case, simply a placeholder.
It would be a money saver if it were asset reuse that made it into the retail game, but admittedly, Batman would look out of place in The Lord of the Rings.
Batman walked so that Talion could run. And climb. And leap. And ride a dragon.
I didn’t realize they were developing a TDKR tie in game- I always assumed after the cancellation of the Dark Knight game that they gave up on tie ins and embraced the original story video games following Arkham Asylum
Weird that they were even developing this to begin with. Can’t imagine it would’ve ever been green-lit.
Goto is a dangerous guy. Hopefully Batman finds him before it's too late.
So much lost Batman media
Same with spider-man
That looks like sonar vision. It's probably more like Splinter Cell: Conviction where it's a late game unlock and only works at short range and while standing still to put some reasonable restrictions on it
The goon with a pacemaker when Batman uses his EMP: 😧
And another game full of missed potential gets the attention of the public. I swear, it's the projects people actually want that ultimately end up getting scrapped. This game, the cancelled Flash game for the Xbox 360 & a Superman game years ago. It's like the second there's a money making idea, it gets thrown out the window. Shame because even though I haven't gotten the chance to play Batman Begins myself, from what I've seen it looks pretty cool & fun. So I definitely would've loved a follow up with improvements.
The Flash game’s cancellation still hurts, it had so much potential
@@WarpingFist That one stung me personally too. As a massive Flash fan, that game's cancellation won't be easy to forget.
I’m happy with what we got though. Rocksteady took the character to another level.
@@inshal6420 I too am happy with the Arkham games. However, those didn't have to be the only Batman games. And by only ones, I mean the ones 90% of people will say are great.
Play Batman Begins, I can attest to how fun and intriguing it can get, might be best to go in blind too
The FEAR jumpscare caught me completely off guard.
Thanks for the warning ;)
@@Jack_The_Ripper-lb yeah. Wasn’t really expecting it from a video like this. 😅
I'd rather have this game than suicide squad and Gotham knights
Couldn't agree more
Agreed 👍
I'd rather have a root canal than Suicide Squad and Gotham Knights.
@@DinoDave150 painful but understandable lol
Hopefully they could resurrect it
I remember a Dark Knight Rises mobile game, it was actually pretty good.
Finally someone mentioned the goat.
Dude epic video as always love ur lost game content
As someone who lives in New Jersey and in a small neighborhood, the city in this unreleased game looks spectacular to me.
I really hope Monolith gets to make their own Batman game eventually.
I think they wanted to have a build that they could show Christopher Nolan when they got in touch with him first a better chance at getting his approval and from what I have seen I think he would given them the Green light.
Splinter Cell type stealth on a Batman is so fitting and looked great, hope one day the next Batman takes this idea
WB is the king of making bad decisions with DC. I love that this Batman’s fighting style is a mixture of Karate, Ninjutsu, Jujitsu, and Kung-fu. I personally think Batman’s fighting style should be similar to Wesley Snipes' Blade but nonlethal. The only thing I dislike is the overreliance on the advanced suit and cowl tech. Batman is supposed to be a shadow due to his mastery of Ninjutsu not from stealth tech in the suit. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective he shouldn't need advanced cowl tech detective mode as he is the detective mode. This is the same problem I had with the Arkham series as well. To me, less is more with gadgets/tech, armor, and allies when it comes to Batman.
To an extent I agree but can I ask u what I thought of the Dark Knight Trilogy? That version of Batman was very tech-heavy. Do you like Pattinson more because he's more of a brawler? I find this take fascinating and just wanted to get more of ur thoughts
@@donovangomez9489 no I'm with you on your Dark Knight Trilogy criticism. That Batman was ninja James Bond who needs a Q Lucius Fox to build. Batman is supposed to be Ninja Doc Savage as he is his own Q since his inception in 1939. With Batman less is more with gadgets, tech and allies. His legendary scientific, deductive, tactical and combative prowess should've been on display. Now to your Pattinson point l. To me the only good things about this movie are the cinematography is AMAZING, The upside-down shot in the rain 👌, Colin Ferrell Penguin's performance is great, the make-up on Penguin deserved an Oscar, and Gotham for once looked dreary like Gotham is supposed to be. To me, everything else is mediocre at best.
@@FriendlyBatDoom Wow I find that fascinating. I thought u would like Pattinson more since he makes his own gadgets and uses more physicality versus tech. What are ur thoughts on the DCAU Batman. He's not as tech-heavy but at the same time I know u said u prefer Batman with less allies so is the Bat family an issue for u?
@@donovangomez9489 I loved that part of the character however he can't spellcheck Spanish and claims to be the shadows just to knock on the front door of the Iceberg Lounge allowing everyone to see he’s just a man dressed up. Batman’s supposed to come across as a supernatural wraith come to punish evildoers due to his Legendary intellectual and combative prowess. Batman to me should also fight more like RE5 Albert Wesker without the super speed with style and a mixture of Live-action Himura Kenshin and Ip Man. Instead we keep getting more of a brawler Batman which isn't something I like.
@@FriendlyBatDoom I can't defend the spell checking Spanish but I feel like Pattinson is in transition to become the Batman we know and love. True he may not be as stealthy and as skilled as we may like but he is only in his second year. I'm holding my judgement until the second movie comes out and we can see how he grows...
Personally I wonder if comparisons would have been drawn between the two games in terms of gameplay performance and story. Great video BTW 🔥🔥🔥
The combat system sounds like devil may cry combat system which probably is like pauses in between attacks to pull off a different/alt move or continue a normal based attack? Also this game sounds very awesome 🗿😭
lookin good, cant wait till the batman 2 comes out and you can cover its concept art and unused ideas (ik its a while in the future but still)
Someone needs to make another Batman game like this now with the Arkham games essentially being finished.
I like that Monolith tried to do something similar yet different with this game rather than just copying and pasting the formula from the Arkham games. I really would have liked to have played this.
Tbh I don’t really see anything that great with it. This most likely would have been forgotten like the Amazing Spider-Man games. Movie licence games are almost never good.
The Nemesis system and the different fighting stances would've made it memorable lmao
As much as I like Arkham, free flow is basic whereas with Shadow of Mordor, you have to strategise since enemies plan their attacks when they see you
I mean there’s been some really good and memorable tie-in games. I think this would’ve been one of them.
Oh shit Monolith! The people that made Blood!
You old?
@@WarpingFisthow is he old
Would been cool if this game released, if we could get nolanverse versions villains like Riddler, Penguin, Black Mask, or even Clayface. (If you wanna know how clayface could fit into the nolanverse, I think his early apearences can give you an idea.)
Nice video 👍
Do u guys think this would have affected Arkham City with oversaturation of Batman games in the 2010s?
Maybe it would’ve affected sales a bit but I don’t think it would’ve been significant.
Why does this batman look more like arkham origins batman than the Nolanverse batman?
Cause the cowl is different. Unlike the Nolan cowl this one doesn't look so tight
Well there's a cool batman game called The Dark Knight Rises by Gameloft. It was made for mobiles and oof, its arkham games on mobile.
Hey bro, are you still working on that video about arkham knight development?
Yeah, at this rate it’ll probably be a may video
I wonder if the combat was gonna use KFM like in the movies
my wife left me
She was with him before she left. Hit the gym bro.
@@sir-ff4zn now i like childrens
21:40 Lego Batman would like to have a word with you
Which quote is better? 🤔💭
"I am Vengeance. I am the Knight. I Am BATMAN!"
or
"I'm Batman!"
Option C: Yeah, I'm Man
Good video and analysis.
I'll be the first to admit I'd have bought this game, and it had some cool ideas, but I have no idea why they would think locking skills and abilities Arkham Asylum and City had already made standard behind an upgrade tree. Especially considering they'd (in theory) be releasing it the year after Arkham City. I know they were both developed around the same time, but a lot of the stuff they had you upgrading was core stuff you could do back in Asylum. Just seems a very odd choice. I mean, if I'm developing a Batman game, one of the first things I'm doing is playing all the other Batman games to find out what was good and we should keep, and what was bad and what we should avoid/fix.
Also, based on some of the stuff I've learned in the last few years about Christopher Nolan and his "ownership" of the Dark Knight trilogy, I tend to believe that Batman: Gotham Knight and the Batman Begins video game being made were nothing short of miraculous. Chip Zdarsky tried to get Bale's Batman to appear in a recent comic he did, but was told by WBD/DC's legal team that Bale's Batman and the Nolan Trilogy is completely off limits. It seems Nolan's contract to make those movies stipulated that he was the only person who could or would allow his version of those characters to appear in any medium, period.
Is that just WB being protective of it or Nolan? It’s their most successful Batman project ever so it makes sense. I would assume they treat their Joker movies the same.
Its just very weird they would give a director that much control over a licenced character. I have never heard of this happening before.
@@inshal6420 I’m pretty sure it’s just Nolan. Zdarsky was able to use Keaton’s Batman, West’s Batman, Conroy’s Batman in BTAS and the Arkham series…it was like he had carte blanche on the entire franchise, but with an embargo on the Nolan trilogy outright.
@@ADayForeverGreenCan confirm that at least at the time of this project, the rules were essentially "Nolan or Nothing".
See I love this, but as a tie in game no…it should’ve just been its own thing preferably!!!
It definitely had the potential to rival the Arkham games
@@WarpingFistthey can bring it back either in the current Reeves Batman universe or a general purpose Batman aesthetic unlikely but who knows might happen if Wonderwoman proves successful
I would love a grounded based Batman like this. Sadly I think we are stuck with the Arkham based style for future games.
Maybe Monolith is the hero we deserve, and the hero we need. Since Rocksteady lived long enough to become the villain.
I’m not sure where I heard this from
But I heard that the dark knight game from 08 was supposed to have the nemesis system
It wouldn't have. That was the Pandemic title.
@@Back2LifeI know but a part of me just feels like I dong know like I heard somewhere I feel like here or somewhere on UA-cam where it was supposed to be used the Nemesis system and well the Batmobile was supposed to be used in the 08 dark knight game it’s really hard to tell but still I wished this game came out
I really like the Batman Gotham Knight movie, but I think the fan made series Joker blogs has more of a likley hood to be cannon to the Nolan trilogy than that movie.
Try to do a video like this but of batman begins
By far The best youtube channel
Try tô do a early devolopment of rdr or last of us if u Can 😊
I liked the Batman Begins game. May not be as good as any of the arkham games, but that dosen't make it bad by default.
Christopher Nolan’s Batman🤦🏿♂️
I'm so early omg
14:50 I’m pretty sure it’s “Find/Go-To”
Yeah, you’re right. That makes more sense
@@WarpingFist all good! Great video I just heard that and thought “wtf is a goto?”😂
Nah, clearly it's a reference to Goto, the fan-favourite character.