The Civilian Mobile Suits of Gundam [Question of the Week]
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I'm keeping a list of the ones I forgot and I'll include them in next week's QotW!
One thing I've seen pop up a few times is how in IBO most folks piloting the MS are civilians, but many of them belong to either private security groups or straight up pirate groups or the "mafia". So it's kinda like Gundam X or mercs, technically it can be correct, but it's not something for the average civilian. The Spinner Rodis I totally forgot about though.
Question:"Kakarot 197" can you explain the Gundam F91 development history ?
You forgot the Sakibure in 00 with those as civilian mobile workers.
This is from ibo gekko the astaroth was owned by a civilian family as a hariloom, and the owner of CGS had the barbatos under his name , not listed under a asset to his company it was just stored there.( It was hinted at by Yukinojo as well that Galerhorn did not know that a mobile suit was there, Galerhorn would have a database of private military to know the CGS assets going in to try capturing Kudelia.)
lemme get uhhh
best civilian illegally owned mobile suits (pirate suits, guerilla suits, rebel and insurrectionist suits, corporate and capitalist suits)
Don't forget the Gilda MS from the 2nd Season specifically the ones Vidar is seen fighting when Gundam Vidar is first shown in Action.
Gundam X: the government can’t arrest you for illegal MS ownership if there’s no government anymore.
Good idea.
Hopefully one day that'll be real.
Turn A too, if you somehow manage to dig up a Gundam, IT'S YOURS. :3
Except that you have to deal with the other Vulture (a group in Gundam X) hunting you down for that shiny (old in the setting) mobile suit that you have.
It’s also great for fans of Gundams specifically because the X, Airmaster, and Leopard were all essentially mass-produced suits.
Gundam X can be described as 'What if Gundam was a Western' so that pretty much explains why everyone and their dog has a full functional and weaponized mobile suit
I like how the u.c. regulations are just like you can have a suit but no weapons or military grade sensors. And meanwhile seed is just going like full on "shall not infringe fed-boy"
I mean, I can see why tho
2A
Artemus Dyal god damn right
Spaceships are way more deadly than a mobile suit. High-speed nuclear kill-missiles. Every single one of them.
ZAFT would probably have its members to purchase and bring their own arms in its early days as Zodiac Alliance was founded as a militia organisation, hence the coloured uniforms for ranks.
"--Legal to drive a tank on the street in some places" *[Flashback to that incident in San Diego CA]*
Oh God. I did a report on that back in college. That whole thing was a trip man
there is a guy (or maybe was, i got old) who owns and drives a street legal tank in Great Britain.
You mean guy with a heavy modified Bulldozer or someone jacked a tank or AFV?
To be fair he did steal it first, and even worse then that he blew at least 3 stop signs
@@MaxHDAvenger It was an actual Tank, specifically a M60 MBT. Google San Diego Tank Rampage for the full details
"The Genoace was armed with a beam spraygun And. A. Stick."
The beam gun and heat stick were probably effective against other MS of its level or lower (i.e. Xeno and Zila), but the ones fielded by the UE/Vagan were beyond that.
Don't forget the rock
We had to share the rock to
@@daddyplankton5855 thats for a full squadrom the rock.
At that point, just use Zaku axe would be better
Sticks are actually very effective weapons.
Gundam double fake. It's an old manga set in the uc about the adventures of a junker who pilots a mobile worker he has personally customised to look like the oyw gundam.
Gundam 00 post ELS encounter a mobile worker.
Totally agreed... and the most outstanding thing about D - Gundam is it was nothing but a civilian build worker that looks like Gundam, but later it were posed as a Gundam in order to protect other civilians, earned it's name as a Gundam, then accepted by EFF, get re-developed into Real Gundam when it receives upgrade into D Gundam - Third and D Gundam - Forth... That makes D Gundam a true legend of the under rats...
@@Vostadues just looked it up and dude from the first to the fourth form it was mind blowing how decked out the fourth looked.
@@Vostadues 同人逼死官方
When it's so good it overtakes the official R&D
@@barrybend7189 What would a civie suit be from the Gaia timeline?
Technically not civilian but there was Reccoa's stripped down Gelgoog that she used to infiltrate Paptimus's ship with the cover story that she was testing it out after a rebuild. I think the fact that the guards bought the story implies that civilian ownership of one year war suits by that time while not extremely common was common enough as to not immediately draw suspicion
One of the guards even offers to buy it off of her.
I completely forgot about that, was that in the anime?
@@nedinnis6752 yep, cant remember the exact episode but i want to say somewhere in the middle after Katz follows Amuro to space
Think there was also in ZZ Gundam a collection of OYW suits, with Judau and Haman stealing the Z'Gok and Acguy.
Yap but it was hinted that colonies might own old mobile suits for defence
You forgot Gundam wing. Duo and hildie both pilot civilian Leo's that have been made into construction suits.
They are technically terrorist/Mercs!
@@lordalpharius5928 hilde is not a terrorist tho, just junk guild like usual
@@lordalpharius5928 at that point as I recall the Gundam pilots all hid or destroyed their gundams and where working civilian jobs. Dou was operating a mobile suit for construction.
I was about to comment this myself. Thanks for taking care of it for me. Even in the colonies in the wing series, it was confirmed that there were construction mobile suits in use. I think with even some being shown, I cant recall that much. But regardless, it was reasonable enough for Trowa to use them as his excuse for his talent as a pilot.
Civilian using an MS is bound to lead to crime. This thing can pick up a goddamn street light as a club if it wanted to. But obviously we would have some sort of a mobile police force that uses all white police mechas, piloted by 10/10 waifus, that protect us from MS going rogue.
I see what you did there, and I approve.
Patlabor: UC Edition
I'm watching Patlabor early days at the moment. God do hand animated mechas look gorgeous.
There’s a guy on deviant art who had a similar idea. His handle is gundam meister.
Can imagine police mobile suits with GM like visor heads with light sirens on the torso or shoulders.
G Gundam-Neo France’s butler had a mobile suit with a steering wheel
Domon fought the three civilian guys who ripped off the jet stream attack too.
Gundam X: theres literally nothing legal going on anymore
Lmao, very much an understatement there's not much a world government left after Earth got slammed by multiple colony drops.
Unless the government send that Frost brother (with their Gundam) to hunt down people 😅
Trouble with Frost brothers they have own ideas
Considering that things like Space Pirates exist in some Gundam Timelines, a more Age of Sail kind of weapon usage, at least in space, could be in effect. Private Corporations, like Freight Haulers and Trading Companies, could be allowed to operate armed ships as well as Mobile Suits to defend themselves, just like Merchantmen back in the day were armed with Cannons and their crews with Muskets. Or to use Star Wars as an example: The Laser Turrets on the Millenium Falcon, whose stock version comes with these.
Of course, that doesn't apply to Private Citizens, but it is something I could see happen for Companies.
The MF is a bad example since those quad laser turrets are actually illegal and exceed the maximum allowable firepower for a civilian ship of that class.
This. All ships are nukes in UC. ALL of them. Colony-destroying nukes. If you can buy a spaceship, you're holding onto a weapon WAY, WAY more powerful than a goddamn anti-MS missile launcher or a pair of Gatling guns.
I actually like the hobby hi-zack colors, it's like a 60's Le'mans car
It's the Gundam colors. White, Red, Blue and Yellow. I wouldn't be surprised if the in-universe reason for the color scheme was the same as the real life one behind the RX-78-2 colors which was to help sales.
it kinda looks like the porsche lola
Same it really gives it a sporty/racing kind of vibe
1) It's pronounced like Chris, but more importantly...
2) Oh My Gods you answered my question!!! Thank you so much!!!
3) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone in UC owns an RGM-79 GM painted in Gundam colors and a giant toy beam rifle complete with the bright orange tip so it is clearly seen as a toy.
Massivr gundam sized foam darts. Or giant squirtguns made with firefighting equipment.
@@DIEGhostfish It’s surplus paint rounds from the training exercises, but the foam darts and water options are more popular because it’s less of a hassle to clean.
In Gundam: The Origin, Char (while on earth) is a construction worker and the giant bulldozer he used was essentially a Guntank before the Guntank (at least visually).
Actually no that was a modified MW-01 Mobile Worker that used a similar base as the Guntank, though that is the OVA. I don't know about the Manga.
You missed 00 and the Sakibure after the 50 year time jump. Its a mobile worker. In Crossbone Gundam Ghost Font piloted a Zaku 2 replica and it could be a Hizack but with Zaku 2 exterior and replica cockpit as its compatible with beam weapons.
I was thinking more like the crossbone other crossbone vanguard MS being disguised as mobile workers
I want a series about a hidden Second Amendment in the Universal Century Charter that states that "The right to bear Mobile Suits shall not be infringed..." lol
I had an idea for a series about a secret Neo Zeon colony that requires it's citizens to all own Mobile Suits so that they can defend the colony as militia in case they're ever discovered by the federation. I was thinking their government would be kinda like starship troopers where you don't get to vote if you aren't willing to fight. So they either gotta serve a term in the formal military or report for biannual militia drills in their privetly owned mobile suits.
@@P1gdude tech didn't that happen all ready when zeon was formed
the Buch Concern
which later created the Crossbone Vanguard was a civilian company that created their own mobile suits. One of the revolutionary designs they made was the Dessa Type
construction mobile suit that was one of the first successful miniature mobile suits. It was superior to anything the federation had (talking about Jeagan and Heavygun)
Man, I'd love for Sunrise to expand on the concept of mobile suits being equivalent to irl vehicles of war. Like having an irl sense of development and 'livespan' for mobile suits. ie an ms can be used in service for over 40 years, given to other militaries when they're replaced with newer ms like how irl the us sold older f-15s,f-16s etc to other militaries worldwide
A lot of the F15 and F16 sold around the world were and are brand new jets sold by the manufacturer. Used aircrafts require more maintenance and in the long run are more expensive than new ones. The real touch of realism that i would like is to have the ms painted in the appropriate camouflage pattern for their operational scenario, woodland/desert for ground units and black/digital black for space. If you think about it Char's red mobil suits were a big middle finger to the enemy
I know in Victory Gundam one colony called Macedonia uses old Heavyguns (modified) as their defense force since they don't have funds to get modern mobile suits with beam shields.
@@arx3516 ah i know about the thing with newer f15 and f16s, im just basing my concept on my own country. A good chunk of our air force fleet are 'secondhand' jets
Gundam 00 would've been the closest as majority of the Western blocs still uses old Realdos and Hellions while the HRL has been using the Tieren for a while before the Flag and Enact went into production and service.
The harem king from ZZ owned a shitload of Zeon suits IIRC. I remember that arc coz Judau had to crossdress to infiltrate his house.
Visit Foundation: imma ruin this timelines whole concept of reality
In Gundam Age, Mobile Suits were used for racing. Wolff raced mobile suits before he joined the military. Though they do not directly show Racing Suits, Wolff's G-Exes was built by a Mobile Suit Smith known for making Racing Mobile Suits. The Genoace is a the result of the military limitations put in place by the Silver Chalice Treaty.
Speaking of Civilian Mobile Suits, now I have to know what government-owned mobile suits were converted into or be used as export models to be used by different parties, like not exactly for civilian purposes. 00 is a major offender for exporting god knows how many mobile suits to several factions in the span of one season.
I think one of the characters even mentions that in the First Episode about so many Hellions being sold off to smaller nations by the AEU. Not to mention the HRL even created an export version of their early first gen mobile suit which is the Anf.
Looking at the UC timeline regarding the scale of the one year war there would have been plenty of salvage after the war ended. So you might have good luck finding mobiles suits if you knew where to look on earth and out in the sides.
It will probably not that easy given how important it was to recover assets both from you and your enemy, zeon would kill anyone who opposed them to get their hands on the Gundam
A question for possible Question of the Week consideration:
Which group actually had a better long term goal and planning: The Vist Foundation or Zeon/Neo Zeon/Sleeves?
To me, I would think that after everything that happened in the UC timeline, The Vist Foundation had a better long term goal/long term plan all along than even the leaders of Zeon would have ever come up with.
Double zeta had that one fat dude who got old Zeon suits and brought them up to spec with what would of been contemporary suits at the time.
Yeah, it was the colony where Hamon went undercover and ended up piloting the Acguy, right?
Ever feel bad getting your butt kicked by an Acguy let alone Lady Haman herself?
MaxHD2490 Avenger I mean she's a newtype so yeah
I think the different variants of the Rodi MS in IBO are a good example of primarily civilian-use mobile suits.
You could even be a bit cheeky and extend that to all MS not used by Gjallahorn
Hearing all these, I'm reminded of a mobile suit short story of the origin of the mobile suits like the Zaku I think it was, the story went that mobile suits were power cord limited so companies used them for stuff like moving crates until a competition was held to determine a mobile suits designs and whichever design won was purchased and was later used in the military. I dont know if the story was real or not because I read it on a manga site years ago called Manga Fox, so I'm not certain if it could be found or not still.
The ownership of mobile suits falls under our 2nd Amendment rights🇺🇸. And I may buy that MiG-21 you found.
If I was gonna do it, it would be the mobile suit equivalent of taking a tank, thickening the armor even more, replacing the gun with a drill, and then mining like it ain't no tang.
So the agg?
Aside from a few specific factions, pretty much everyone in Iron Blooded Orphans is a civilian.
Barbatos Lupus is a civilian mobile suit :O
Yeah but it's Gundam Frame aka military MS in the Calamity War, so technically still a military MS used and customed by civilian
Although Teiwaz's MS might be civilian used
Nope Barbatos is owned by Tekkadan a paramilitary organization
@@DuiDui92 I don't think civilian-made or made for civilian is a requirement for a suit to be classified as civilian MS. Only ownership matters. Otherwise, hizack hobby and the suits in the museum wouldn't have been counted in the video.
@@hadotakeki3653 They call themselves private security company, or something like that. Does that count as paramilitary?
What about those pirates btw, are pirates civilian?
Ein Traktor habe ich mir bisher immmer irgendwie anders vorgestellt :)
I can't image someone really bought into the whole "this is just a traktor" thing. It'S so hard to believe
Also, I could think of another two MS that could be refit for Civilian use: The Guncannon and the Guntank.
I mean, replace the Weapons with Firedepartment Equipment like big Water hoses or rescue equipment, and they could work pretty good for example on Airports, or ground related Spaceports.
Also, there was alot of MS in the UC Timeline, that was refitted for the Engineering Corp to recover downed MS from the Battlefield.
They could be used as Working Mashines for rebuilding Civilisation too.
Also in Seed Astray and Seed Destiny Astray, there is the Junk Guild.
Some of the Ships and MS they have, aren't weaponised but have long arms and clamps to actualy recover stuff from space... and sometimes throw the stuff at enemys as last defense. xD
What do you think and have you more?
The AGE-1, while not developed FOR Civilian use was privately owned by Flit throughout practically all of AGE. It's being developed by Flit and the old man at the start, is at the Asuno family estate before Asemu's events, and he still has it as an old man, retired from the military, during Kio's part of the story
There is one thing I would really love to know in the whole Gundam genre, and that is the Calamity War. I want to know every detail about the Gundam frames that were there during the war. Who won? Who suffered? Why was it fought in the first place? Keep making that good content Kakarot.
If they ever release a sidestory manga about that, I'll be on top of it. But atm, nothing is really known about it.
In Zeta Gundam they also reference mobile suit collectors during the episode The Jupitris Infiltration. Ironically they also did what your talking about with the Hizack by making a Gelgoog using parts from Nemos.
You might like the ecchi series, agent aika. Her plane is literally a mig 21
That's nice and all, but it's certainly not the reason why I like Agent Aika XD.
Interesting....
Gundam AGE has racing and sports Mobile Suits for racings and duels that civilians can use, but the only weapons it is even allowed to have are paint markers that says you've been hit and need to go and clean it. In other words, it's Mobile Suit paintball and Mobile Suit NASCAR editions. Yes they even have legal and illegal "street racing" as well
How common were Small/Petite Mobile Suits? Or how small can Mobile Suits be?
Thank you for sharing.
You forgot about Reccoa Londe's civilian Gelgoog. YES it was just a Nemo underneath but saying that it fooled both Paptimus Scirocco and the Titans gives it some points.
I believe the first civilian mobile suit we see in UC Gundam, besides the ones in Hayato's museum, is the Gelgoog the AEUG salvaged and repaired with Nemo parts. None of the Titans seemed to think it was odd that a civilian owned a Gelgoog, and one offered to buy it.
While this has one hell of a lot of caveats you could own a fully functional (tank gun and machine guns) in most states in the US.
Anon4495 Texas probably
Yeah in the US being able to have a fully functioning tank is 100% legal its just a bitch and a half to get any sort of ammunition for those guns especially if they are old models such as shermans.
True, and it gets a lot more expensive too
If the machine gun is pre 86 we need to repeal the NFA.
7:55 Oldsmobile Army Zeon units and the RF series replicas/ upgrades of one year war machines but with Geara Doga inerds.
I loved everything about this aspect of the UC timelines. We constantly see Armies (Mars, Republic of Zeon / 'Sleeves') using what they had available and upgrading the crap out of whatever they could, creating a diverse fighting force. It makes perfect sense to do so and adds some real lift to the series compared to other timelines.
@@houndthered5270 their spirit never turned off, that's what make UC (especially Zeon side) is better than other timeline
I had a friend customize a plamo of the Serpent Custom to be a heavy labour machine. Turned out great. Orange/grey/yellow colour scheme.
Now that I saw her again, I remembered that Meyrin will be an operator in Extreme VS for PS4, affection meter and all
"Why does your Mining MS have Funnels?"
"What? Oh those, we use it for uh. . . Asteroid debris clean up. yeah . . ."
I feel like you missed the ibo mobile suits all together. There were the mobile suits at Dort colony, the UGY-R38 Spinner Rodi. These were civilian mobile suits that were mass produced for work and maintenance in outer space.
In Gundam 00 there was an entire battle that was fought by workers in a mining facility using work loaders. Also if you read up on it, the Mobil suits used at the beginning of the 00 series were weapon used worker mobile suits. They were meant for construction but were weaponized because they were easily modified so small nations or militias would buy them and turn them into weaponized mobile suits.
What about the Geze? And wasn't there a Genoace used for racing?
Agreed. There is the Vandera and the 3D mobile suits constructed by Mardona Workshop along with the Shaldoll though that could be argued to be a private military suit but the Shaldoll was also customized for racing like Woolf's old unit in the AGE-MSV.
In Gundam Origins they show that the mobile workers were further developed into full construction-only suits between 0070 and 0079. I think in episode four Char is working as a dozer operator on a construction site where all the heavy equipment are mobile worker variants.
Don't forget the mobile suits used by workers of the Dort colonies from IBO. They were worker type mobile suits that they workers repurposed to rebel.
In a similar vein to the matter in X, in Zeta Reccoa pretended to be a civilian with her salvaged gelgoog. So in UC it's possible the colonies have fewer restrictions when it comes to acquisition of a Mobile Suit if you can salvage and restore it yourself. And I don't know if it's considered to be a canon story but the basic premise of the Double Fake manga is that the protagonist owned a labour Mobile Suit that he customized to resemble a Gundam.
I love that Hizack! When I saw it show up in Char's Counterattack I was like... wait why did a Zaku just show up in Gundam colors?
If I was in the UC, I'd find a kampfer and find people with MS to race against, and stage fake gunfights with like the opening of 0083. That would be super fun.
Fake gun fights with giant paintball guns and/or giant water guns
I have a forklifter license, i imagine people having MS licenses, from there it´s just one step up to either drive one at work or even private.
Same actually with cars. But MS are more like tanks, however those are rare in civil live, except if you work in ski tourism and prepare the slopes.
Other things that come to mind are fire fighters and their extinguisher tanks used for certain fires.
There is a tank with fighterjet engines instead of the cannon to extinguish burning oil spills.
Question: just how many Gundams were canonically deployed during the OYW? I know there's the RX-78 1-7, but what about the other variants we see?
It depends what do you consider canonical.
in anime canon one RX-78-2 and unknown number of RX-79-s, and sort of the Alex.
In the manga/msv/novel/game EU set in the canon timeline :
RX-78-{1-7}, FA-78-{1,2}, Pixie, BD-2, BD-3,
There are at least 32 gundams used by the federation during the one year war, the RX-78 units 1-6 all saw deployment while unit 7 didn't get used until later, Then there where approximately 20 RG-78[G] (Five of which where converted into the EX-8, Slave Wraith, and Blue Destiny Units 1-3), 4 Gundam Pixies, Full Armor Gundam, and NT-1 Alex. There was also at least one Heavy Gundam under construction during the war, I'm not sure if it was finished.
Didn't George Desands butler in G gundam have a mobile suite?
yes, complete with mustache and bow tie. its quite agile too
That suit was the epitome of class. If I remember correctly it had a tuxedo coat also.
There was a side story in AGE where they had racing mobile suits. Where Woolf happened to be a “mobile suit racer” what I would call it.
Will you do a video Explaining the Federation and zeon rank patches please
That would be nice to have clarified. Colors for pilots, officers and non-combat personal was all I really got from the Federation and even then I am not 100% sure as that seemed to only apply to the EFSF while the EFF was a bit more...modern in terms of uniforms not being so vibrant.
Crossbone Dust is all about post Victory UC where civvies scavenge parts to make mobile suits.
Also I will take a Byarlant because the right to go fast shall not be infringed
Basically its the Succession Wars of Battletech but Gundam.
Apparently in the original series there was mention of civilian organizations owning mobile suits. Especially earlier Zeon designs that came before the Zaku series.
Edit: Pretty much all AU timelines for Gundam have Civilian owned MS of some form. Even if they are closer to Petite MS. Edit2: Gundam Wing has that mining petite MS style unit. G Gundam actually has quite a few civilian MS. Gundam 00 has the distinct thing of being the only series I know of that doesn't have full civilian Petite MS or full MS. It did however have some Worker conversions of things like the Realdo and Anf mentioned in passing.
There are more. The Gelgoog that was piloted by Reccoa Londe in Zeta was listed as civilian owned, The construction Leos in Wing (mentioned below), Civilian GINNs in early SEED, pretty much every other MS in IBO, There are a LOT more civilian owned MS than people think. Worker MS mentioned in much of the MSV and manga material are nonmilitary in use. Therefore would qualify as civilian for the same reason as the tank example you used. Also Anaheim Electronics is a civilian contractor not strictly military.
how about a short developpement history for the mass production nu gundam?
As far as civilian mobile suits, if you want to get technical, there's the gundams in 00. Celestial Being isn't a government organization or military. They'd more accurately be classified as a private militia. Its members ARE technically civilian and their organization owns those mobile suits. Same goes for Team Trinity, who owns and operates the Throne units.
There may well be other examples in other Gundam universes.
HGUC Hobby Hizack when?
HGUC Zaku 2 RF.
Right shoulder aside, it's just as simple as not adding the left shoulder spikes and being careful with when you paint it.
Seriously, I tend to forget how different that right shoulder is from the base unit.
Laughs in HGUC Gm Aqua*
Fun little tidbit, there was a perfectly functioning and pilotable replica of the RX-78-2 (with a cutting saw instead of a beam saber) in Gundam Breaker 3 which is used to to help you get back to Earth in the main story after the orbital elevator stopped working and used again in a terrorist attempt to bring down the orbital elevator in the DLC storyline.
In the latter, about 40 or something years pass after the events of the last DLC mission and not only has technology advanced to the point of creating fully functional commercial mobile suits for civilian use based on the franchise that can operate in outer space but they’ve also constructed fully operational space colonies based on the Universal Century’s design. The sight of two unarmed Zaku IIs flying by and waving at the Gundam is certainly something you’d never see in the UC.
I think the Spinner Rodis from IBO also count as civilian owned mobile suits. The Dort Company has them mainly for colony wall construction.
I appreciate your videos a lot. I caught the Gunpla bug, and have only started IBO and UC because they're on Netflix. Your videos about the lore of the suits have introduced a whole new level of interest in their designs, without having to do the investment of thousands of hours watching all of the series.
I imagine a lot of GM’s and Zaku’s got surplus’d out post OYW. Would probably be great for industrial salvage and warehousing. Imagine being some warehouse worker in UC and one day your boss tells you they’re phasing out the forklifts. And you’re going to start unloading cargo in a Zaku.
9:17 the Vist foundation pretty much has the analogous status of a military contractor/manufacturer in our own world. I’ve worked for and with defense contractors before. Those products aren’t owned by the military until they are adopted and sold. Defense contractors have fully functional defense articles that are under their ownership for testing purposes and as “dealer samples.” And these aren’t always just the ones they manufacture, they retain foreign examples and out of production examples to use as benchmarks for what they’re working on. They are monitored under the supervision of the DoD, Department of state, and Department of commerce and many more departments and agencies. Same as the Vist foundation and their relationship with the federation. The same with Anaheim electronics. People forget that they’re a civilian company in the UC timeline.
Okay I know this video is like a year old, but you forgot to mention the billionaire guy from Tigerbaum in ZZ. He had a Zaku I, Zaku tank, Zogok, Agguguy, Acguy, and even a gogg and Z'gok.
The first civilian mobile suit was used is in ZZ gundam where they use amphibious Zeon MS in MOON MOON colony...
QUESTION: were there any mercenary organizations in the universal century timeline during the one year war and up to Hathaway's flash? Did they pilot mobile suits? What was their affiliations? Any other organizations of note that shared similarities?any of note in other gundam timelines?
The Hloekk Graze in IBO, for all the paramilitary-own ms going about, this one was sold to civilians by gjalarhorn
Gundam Wing. They had a Civilian Worker Mobile Suit used when we saw the Winner Family Colony and the Resource Asteroid. Also, something I like to point out. The Desperado was used as a basis for the Genoace.
I read somewhere where Doms were used for racing after the war.
5:44 since minovski particles moved combat back to visually based, that color scheme is most likely a precaution to keep civilian mobile suits high vis. But the law only applies to commercial transactions and not private sale. Kinda like how manufacturers are required to add ugly amber side markers in the US on cars but an individual can swap them out for euro style clear side markers if they want to and when that’s sold, that’s allowed to stay.
What happened to federation prisoners of war after the one year war?
There was most likely a prisoner exchange, it's not like the principality of zeon could not go against that part of the Antarctic treaty. They would want to be careful of having more war crimes on their hands. Its implied that both sides stick to that caveat strictly.
@@colinbielat8558 In Thunderbolt, some guys were threatened with a court martial if they didn't stop beating a prisoner. They weren't all saints, but they did follow the rules when it was for the best.
Feddies killed all my Zeon brothers at Camp Revil. The Titans would do the same.
@@MasterArchfiend when the Antarctic treaty was signed, I'm sure the zeon high command was worried about a military tribunal like the Nuremberg trials, they already screwed up and they probably wanted to limit additional charges.
To clarify the Vist Foundation, they are privately owned and took military contracts to manufacture MS and MS type weapons, which lead to the development of the RX-0 unicorn, also it’s because of the VF that most if not all weapons in that era were cross compatible with the given MS
My favorite real-world case of military weapons being made into civilian tools is the Unimog. After WWII, the rest of the world told Germany, "You're not allowed to build tanks anymore, and you need to rebuild your farmland because famine." So Germany said "Fine. We're gonna use our tank factories and tank parts and make a tractor". And in typical Germany fashion, they made a WAY better version of a tractor and work vehicle than basically anything in the world... And now their tractor is being sold worldwide as a platform for an armored personnel carrier. XD
Just got the book he recommended a few videos back, and its heat.
9:15
"You're not dealing with the average civilian anymore. I, (insert name here), have finally become... The Legendary Super Civilian!"
As an American I can gladly say if mobile suits were real I could probably own and buy one at a wall mart
You really could. Discount 102mm ammo and everything. What do you think they would change in regards to laws/restrictions for the MS based on where you live?
Ine Wulf Florida so it would probably be a free for all lol. But I am curious what they would have to say about aquatic MS. Boat laws are already pretty rigid I could only what hops I would have to jump through for my Z’gok.
You'd imagine hizacks could be refit to look like any of the zaku family, considering the zeta gundam is compatible with zaku parts, the gelgoog can take nemo parts... etc etc, shows that eras suits can take 1YW parts and the other way around too.
Is it that me or am i seeing a cgue deep arms(if i remember corectly) in the background😂
Gundam Astray Out frame D, a reporter used ms with a field photojournalist. One distinctive feature of this mobile suit is that Gun Camera which serve as a camera during battles
To add on about tanks in the inter-war period, the Russians got a hold of two prototype tanks designed by J. Walter Christie, and were able to ship it out of the country by claiming they were agricultural tractors. These became the basis for the BT series of tanks, which evolved into the T-34.
If there's one MS I would like to have to be of civilian use, it has to be the Kampfer. It has such unique design that really interests me, and remember how it can be easy be taken apart and put back to together without higher end tools is what makes it great.
I feel like a dope video would be a history of the Gundam development program! (gp01,02,03,04 gundams)
In the case of mercenaries, if contracted by the military, they can buy weapons (mobile suit in this case) at a reduced cost but aren't always up to military standards, some armor, weapons and functions can be removed to not get attacked by these merc groups. and as for owning a tank, here in canada it seems you can but only for display purposes.
ZZ had the suits.in the space Hong Kong colony where the mob boss running the side had a collection of oyo and MSV suits from Zeon. It seems that post war the eff sold off along with zeon the captured units that the federation was done studying and zeon sold the suits they couldn't keep under treaty. The r-44 guntank was demilitarized hence the one cannon on it exploding tank cannons get concrete in them to disable the barrel. His museum had a bunch of oyo suits the anime side shots had a zaku and a gelgoog in the background. He appeared to have had it restored part way as part of the colony militia.
The only other examples I can think of that weren't mentioned elsewhere in the comments are A: In the Thunderbolt manga, the Fleming company are seen using old GMs. B: In ZZ, not only are Mobile Suit parts implied to be also scavenged by Judao and co., but also there was that guy who owned a bunch of mobile suits in Tigerbaum. C: As more of an honorable mention, the Automatons in 00 were later used as medical and construction machines in the movie.
I personally have a theory on the Borjarnons that they were replica MS made in a much later era made for War reenactments. I doubt they are internally Hizacks because they lack the 360 cockpits and by the UC 150s there only one original Zaku was known to still be functioning that I know of, let alone replicas. Besides, Turn A is so far in the future that I highly doubt that the Borjarnons were even made during the UC era. The design of the black Borjarnon hints that they are replicas made in a far later time based on limited data.
Additionally, people like to do re-enactments in the real life. A major battlefield like Odessa would get memorials and museums. Live reenacting would be a thing to demonstrate history in the flesh.
I would love a history of the musai, Chivvay Zanzibar and Gwazine classes of ships as they tend to run threw all neo zeon wars.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were groups whose sole interests was going to various battlefields and scavenging as many mobile suit and other military wrecks and then selling refurbished units from units they cobbled back together. Or blueprinting the mobile suits and selling the prints to various MS designers.
The 'Zaku's in Turn A always reminded me of those kit cars, y'know where it's a replica body of a classis sports car built onto on the chassis of a cheap contemporary runabout... it would make sense in later UC for that to be a hobby for some people. Or maybe, just like in real life there are groups who recreate historic battles and often make replica vehicles and equipment of the time period they're recreating, possibly a group existed that made and operated the Borjanoon's. Would explain why there are several found together
IBO also has the Spinner Rodi as colony worker/defense and the Hloekk Graze for the bloc's militaries, but also for local guards.
That and the entire Teiwaz/Tanto Tempo space mafia thing that are evidently also tolerated by the government
Mobile Worker - Mobile Suit is like the real world tractor - tank :D so maybe a civilian mobile suit can be a buffed up mobile worker or like military surplus or a civilian version of firearms
Battletech was the first game universe where one could obtain their own Battlemech. The second was Heavy Gear. Which is a concept I brought over to anything with giant robots/powered armor/tank. My personal Zaku 2 Desert Type is a highly customized model on paper that incorporates off the shelf parts to vastly improve it's performance and firepower. I think they should do the same for MSG.
But your maintenance costs would be *astronomical* as each machine realistically weighs thousands of tons and is extremely complicated, so the facilities to be able to work on them would be equally expensive. However...yes, I'd definitely own one...with a minifridge and microwave.