If I had my way she would have gotten one year for each victim a hafe a year for each would or could have been victim and add all the ages for the victims to that pathetic 4 year sentence she got.
I don't understand how people are willing to risk a CHILD'S life just to avoid a few minutes of waiting. When it comes to such a young life we should do everything we can to protect them.
Probably because they flat out didn't know. Education systems are a joke. I wasn't even taught this as a teen driver. Personally, I hated driving because I knew I wasn't ready, but they still gave me a license. I practically had to teach myself everything I know today.
All states should make this law...you run past a bus with lights...minimum 1000 fine and immediate license revoked!!! I dont even have kids and this pisses me off
The reason fines never work is because they aren't progressive. The fine should not be a set amount. If you make $200,000 a year, a $1,000 fine isn't going to hurt you at all.
@@shartbossmaster It's technically not murder unless it can be proven that the person driving the car had the intent to kill. This probably falls under manslaughter, but the driver definitely deserves life in prison.
Unfortunately, she only got 4 years in prison, 3 years on house arrest, and a 10-year license suspension. Got off way too easy for killing 3 children. She also had the audacity to appeal which was denied.
While that sounds good in theory, it's a bad decision. Cause now you are putting the driver and passengers at risk, and the one think USA is really well known for its suing for all the dumbest things. Regardless if it was their fault or not, and just on legal expenses alone, that would be too costly for the schools.
While I understand citations via camera has been deemed “unconstitutional due to invasion of privacy” at stop lights, this is a completely different scenario. This isn’t about simply running a red light, speeding and other basic traffic violations. This is about common knowledge knowing damn well children are getting off the bus and walking directly into traffic. Some kids have to walk in front of the bus as their home isn’t on the same side as the door. Some kids are very young and have not developed the concept to always look for oncoming vehicles. I fully support more action taken to catch these drivers and not simply send a ticket, but to have more aggressive charges as I feel like more people wouldn’t want to risk catching a case. I personally knew someone who almost lost their 1st grader due to a driver in a hurry, intentionally sped by and passed the bus and hitting this child. The boy was thrown into the air, suffered a bad head injury and endured many broken bones but thankfully did not pass away. I’ve witnessed many drivers ignoring a bus stopping to unload children but, again, thankfully no child was hurt.
i agree, we can make an exception for this. i wish my bus had cameras, one that actually were quality and could catch the license plate. i also wish all my kids paid better attention -- it's actually my younger ones that follow these rules better simply because most of them are eager to please the authority figure. i say that, but my elementary students are english second language kids whose upbringing tends to be better than, ah, certain others. our routes are designed to pick up on the resident side as much as possible. they're also made by computers, so there's always something left to be desired in real life, so there's always some tweaking that needs to happen.
I've stopped for a school bus and people were literally going around me they DO. NOT. CARE. its sickening... it's like would you rather be late to work or kill a kid crossing the road..
I started putting my car over the line to keep people behind me from passing while stopped behind busses. I would much rather be rear ended than to watch a helpless child be hurt/killed from a careless driver.
I've stopped in the middle of both lanes behind a bus to make sure no one passed. People have tried passing me. They gotta hit me before those kids tho
WTF is wrong with people it only takes a second to stop I mean come on would you rather arrive somewhere a little late or would you rather kill or paralyze a kid and go to jail
@@blackfacehardon5163 damn right. These kids are gonna have to learn to dodge traffic eventually. If I had time to stop for a school bus I would've had time to scrape more ice off of my windshield than a 2 inch by 2 inch square in the 1st place. They can't expect every driver to even see a school bus let alone stop for one. I got places to be.
@@chrisk6668 lmaooooo you act like you’re so important you can’t even stop. It’s a law to stop at a stop sign, you ain’t got nowhere to be. Ignorant as hell! Taking someone’s life to rush to McDonald’s. Smh
@@GabyP17 I agree. Getting to a job on time is not more important than stopping for a school bus picking up kids . Heck don’t care what your boss says about that just stop and wait and tell your boss to F off and that you don’t want to hurt a child.
got to love this country, were nobody cares about other people and people are prepared to run over children just to save 30 seconds of their time. keep in mind, nobodies 30 seconds is worth the life of 3 children.
One of my friends, who never got their driver's license nor has any interest in getting one, knows that if a bus is stopped with the signs out then you need to stop.
My bus driver did that too. He would take those notices to police, and one my friend’s dad was the driver who passed (even though his son rode the bus everyday, and he knew it was dangerous since it was a spot where most kids got off the bus) and he later got a ticket for it.
Sometimes it’s longer, it really depends how long it takes for kids to get on or off the bus, in some states you have to wait for the bus to resume motion so it could be 1 to 2 minutes in some cases. I don’t illegally pass stopped school buses and don’t think it’s ok to do so but for me I would be annoyed if I had to stop because I wouldn’t want to have stop from going 35 to 40 (or however fast I’m going) when I’m not even in the intersection, especially if I’m on the other side on a road with 4 or more lanes
@@thevarietykid686 I know it can be longer, I wasn't using 5 seconds as the exact time limit for all bus stops like that. My point is that there's no reason for you to be passing a bus like that especially when they have their sign up. From what I know most buses have a set schedule so most people tend to know roughly when a bus is going to be somewhere. So I feel like you should either leave earlier or look for another way around. Those people are putting a child's life in danger and in the case some children have lost their lives because of people like that, but I do get what you're saying though.
Cameras in other areas are already causing issues. they dont work. we need our police to start monitoring this and issuing tickets. Look up toll road camera issues and look up speeding canera issues. they dont work.
I've almost been hit multiple times. Happened almost everyday my 8th grade year. Now going into 10th, I'm terrified of buses. I'm so happy my freshman year that my bus driver gets off the bus and will scream and yell at drivers for this BS.
You’ll become a fan of cameras when it’s your child being killed or hit by a careless irresponsible wreck less driver !! Jail those idiots for 30 days for doing it! It might save a child’s life !
Right?! That guy’s a moron, btw; “I’m not a fan of cameras and ticketing people, BUT something needs to be done...” Dude, that IS something being done. 🙄
@@LittleJerryFan92 I guess it really is true what they say about assuming. Do you really think that if someone isnt completely on board with a lifetime ban on driving for a 2nd driving offense or even if they are but know damn well it will never happen that they must hate children? Because that is a completely assinine conclusion to come too.
I had a woman get mad at me for stopping for a bus, laid on the horn multiple times, passed me while laying on the gas and yelling at me, almost taking out a kiddo, and then promptly pulled over by the officer on the other side of the bus she couldn’t see. My husband did a Nelson laugh as we drove by, cop smiled. Sweet, sweet karma.
@RECKLEZZ I hope somebody got the person’s license plate. Poor kiddo. It’s sad really, people used to look out for each other now everybody’s so selfish they can’t even pay attention to what they’re doing.
Indeed! Sweet! Thats what I loved about riding a school bus too. Sweet Instant Karma! I wonder how much was his ticket? Probably about $360! Did you ever find out from your husband? LOL! SM
Many years ago, I was driving a fully loaded 3/4 ton truck down a VERY steep hill. I was geared down and only going about 25 mph. I came around the corner and just KNEW the bus was going to stop and let kids off. Sure enough, the sign came out and lights started flashing. This was WAY before anti-lock brakes and all four wheels were locked was I tried to stop and laid on the horn. I remember being so scared I would hit a kid. I was looking for where to put the truck (the ditch was starting to look very good) when the driver retracted the sign and waved me through. I stopped anyway, with about 10 feet to spare. And then waited for the kids to cross. The driver yelled through he window "Nice stop. That had both of us cringing...". I still cannot believe how many people just do not care. Drivers are trained to spot these conditions and hold the kids back. They have a tough job, we do not have to make it more difficult. This driver was on top of things. Totally awesome.
Iv seen a video of a school in New York and the kids were getting off the bus to go into school, and this is like an elementary school as well, and the driver just couldn't wait so he drove up on the sidewalk where to kids were walking into school and almost hit a few of em as well. It just blew my mind
At least you laid on the horn to give warning, so the driver knew you were coming and likely were having trouble. That's more then I can say for the 4 times I've nearly been hit and run over.
Well if you just knew the bus driver was going to stop you should have listened to your gut and started slowing down right then and there. Glad everyone was okay.
@Lster S yes, because every single kid coming off that bus is going to stay on the side they were dropped off and not ever need to cross the street. Stopping traffic to prevent dangerous situations is not unnecessary.
In my opinion cameras aren’t the answer. I believe bus drivers need to get out, stop traffic and assist the children across the road like they did before these “stop arms”.
@@MasterMayhem78 bus drivers can’t get out and help especially if there are students still on the bus waiting to go to the next spot to get dropped off. And schools certainly don’t have enough funding for extra aides on the bus to do what you suggest.
Big acknowledgement to the bus driver for being alert and preventing that kid from being hurt. She could've easily been complacent. Outstanding Job ma'am, whoever you are!!!
Same I was walking past with my friend and a car just zoomed by there was like 3 cars waiting but the one passed those cars and almost hit us but we just ran
I didn't have a situation quite that bad but one car didn't stop and gave us all a scare. My stop is right on the side of one of the busiest roads and one of my drivers once asked the school board to move the stop since it was dangerous but they ignored him and fired him. I'm really mad that they did that because it is quite possible someone is going to get hit on that stop one day.
If someone ever says they "didn't know" is full of horse crap. That's the first question on the driver's license test that they bought and didn't earn.
@@donutreligion2979 Don't insult autistic people for something they can't change and didn't ask for. Insult the people ignoring laws, and killing kids.
Well it's just as well then my automobile isn't registered and doesn't bear number plates. And I don't stand under claims of authority by other human beings over me. Guess that means you'll have to *teach* YOUR OWN CHILD how to cross the road safely. Yes? No?? Escalate it to the point that it still remains a "Me" problem??? What are you going to do next?
In Texas they do send citations I got one no I didn’t do it on purpose I was literally next to the bus when it started slowing down which of course caused me to pass the light. I paid my ticket and am more careful since then…. But I don’t see people speeding and ignoring the stop sign. At least not that often. They need to give citations, community service or something
It's really infuriating to see that still happening. It was a problem when I was a kid and I had a couple of close calls myself. Make the penalty for failing to stop very severe, like say losing your license for a year or something, and I bet the incident numbers go way down
@@jaimeb6873 I agree! It should be like it is in some European countries and be required to complete a professional driving school and we need to make the penalties for some infractions super extreme!
@@warrenwilson720 then again you know what they say. look both ways and wait for traffic to pass. stop signs garantee nothing. dont take anything for granted and rely on your knowledge.
I’m a school bus driver in Utah, I drive little kids, people pass me all the time . I don’t let my kids cross the street until every car has stoped. I had a snow plow almost hit 2 little boys in front of their mom. This is totally unacceptable, these people need to be held accountable.
"We're supposed to stop behind a school bus?" "We're supposed to stop at stop signs?" "We're supposed to turn wheel inwards/outwards when parking on a slope?"
"normally we'd require you to take a vision test and a written test to renew your license but it's been waved due to Covid" the DMV lady said to me 2 days ago
Your kid dosen't look both ways before crossing any street? Do we need to call child protective services since you clearly don't know how to properly raise children!! 🤦🏿♂️
Yep and also kids who walk home like many times I've almost been hit because some girl told me I could past so I was doing that then some guy got made and TRIED HITTING ME lucky I boo ganged it before he could
@@tenebrosia9755 some people like the person who first commented lack common sense. Please do call a social worker saying the parents should be looked into because an adult blew a stop sign and injured or killed them. The social worker would probably send mental health to anybody who thinks it was the parents fault 😂
I’m a school bus driver and I can certainly tell you this happens pretty much every day. It is very dangerous and very frustrating to see. Love to see when the drivers get caught by a cop.
i've yet to see one get busted for blowing my bus off. all i can do is blow my horn and if they look at me be like, 'wtf?!' i have three stops that are confusing to drivers, so i get those. one of those i don't even know the rules on, the other two are debatable. it's not like every situation is in the books. those don't have any crossers so i don't get bent out of shape on those. i also wish these laws were uniform across every state.
@@NewPhone-bs7mt smart phones don't help. i tell them all the time to look both ways, some do, some don't. every time a car blows me off i remind them that's why you look both ways. you can't get it through some kids' heads.
I don't live in the US but I think if someone is caught on camera doing this, nevermind a citation, they should automatically have their license revoked for however many months.
It won't really stop it though as the person driving may not be the owner. Impounding the car though is a good idea. If the owner wasn't the driver then they will be pissed at whoever borrowed the car. It's the same for red light cameras, they only capture the tag and not who is driving.
@@randomname528 did you even watch the video? When kids get off the bus, some of them will decide to cross the street right then and there. It’s acceptable because there NOW IS a stop sign which is the bus stop sign. Anyone who has a driver’s license know that *pedestrians always have the right-of-way*
@@xxsumixxtrax8159 that IS too extreme. it is the best idea ive heard in a while, to get cameras to give out tickets for this. but mistakes happen with cameras, and those red light cameras have been known to give tickets out to PARKED CARS they register on the sides of the road. mistakes are costly, and take a lot of time to resolve. get THOUSANDS of moving cameras on the streets in america and mistakes are going to skyrocket. its easier to deal with a small mistake like a ticket than to fix something big like someone being arrested later and having to reinstate a drivers licence that was wrongfully revoked (and more than likely wrongful arrest lawsuits galore) after their car was mistakenly captured when NOT doing anything wrong. courthouses would be SWAMPED forevermore. the paperwork alone for ONE case like that would be wretched! let alone thousands every day, bc like i said a moving camera is going to be more difficult to deal with than a motionless red light camera. these cameras arent being looked at by a human unless someone reports a dispute against the ticket. its all automatic. they get your licence plate on camera, ticket is automatically mailed to you. imagine thousands of automatic warrants issued for arrests in these cases. geeze. this is what judges are for, to judge things on a case by case basis if someone DID do something horrendous and needs to be arrested. a $350-$500 ticket and youll think twice before running past a bus again. theres no reason to have such harsh consequences if something else is effective in lowering the number of instances. you cant impose overly harsh or inhumane treatments when the punishment doesnt fit the crime. what would be next? jail time for running a stop sign? or for jaywalking? both of those infractions can be extremely dangerous as well. that is just a point, use your brain before replying something snarky to this to anyone reading this comment as if i were lessening the impact of driving past a bus in comparison to jaywalking.
@@xxsumixxtrax8159 Late, but I am NOT an idiot; Jail is too serious and only should apply on serious topics. This topic is still serious but not to the point you need a trial. (car crashes and accidents aside)
It’s a literal traffic law... why are these people given licenses when they don’t even know all of their traffic laws :((( in Canada they have significantly less traffic deaths because they have do such rigorous testing on drivers before they are licensed.
There are tons of traffic laws that people ignore every day. Speeding, no u-turn, stopping at red lights, stopping at stop signs, no turning right on red, yielding, no parking in red zones. And yet...
@@cscn_3465 no way do I agree, 3 innocents life’s were lost for someone’s irresponsibility. The original comment said something like “imagine getting 15 years in prison for not waiting”, and I believe the lady only received 3-4 years of sentence, so I was trying to say even 15 years would have been better than 3. And if she did get 3-4 years it’s basically almost 1 year per kid she killed, that’s how much the lives of these children were to whoever made the sentence. Sadly, because like you mention, the pain the parents will have, will be eternal for them, and the lady who ran them over will get a chance to start over once she’s out of prison.
@@LA_HA I heard everything he said. What else do you suppose the county does ? They should give tickets because guess what human life especially a child’s is more important that someone getting penalize for doing something they are not supposed to do. So if there’s soMe thing that’s works better love to hear it because clearly the stop signs aren’t working. Wondering why someone would say that unless they themselves do it. It’s easy for someone without a child to say stupid bs like that. It’s the assumption for me. He literally says that and then but something needs to be done. Thanks still feel the same 😝 if you don’t like it to bad.
@@gabriellacorrea5846 It was a question. You answered it. I thank you. If you wish to assume things about the guy though he explained his caveat, that's beyond the scope of my query. Be safe and well
@@Blackporto47 My most profound, sincerest apologies for the inconvenient necessity in having to look up my superfluity of vocables. I shall make a prodigious effort to simplify any and all acknowledgments and repartee from this present time henceforth. M'kay?
A car passed my bus driver in my development while he was letting kids out, and after the last kid got off, he whipped that bus around and followed the guy to his house. Got his listened plate and left. We were all cheering. 😂😂😂
Woah but hey people always say bus drivers cause accidents but the biggest dumbasses on the road is cars i repeat cars not busses but the news makes bus Drivers look like bad drivers and its stupid plus I remember one year a van ran into our bus and the bus was completely stopped
Put a secondary crossing arm (like the one on the front of school busses) that opens up in the lane next to the drivers side, that way oncoming traffic literally has to stop or it'll hit a metal bar.
@@danielmerrick5290 I don’t think that’s necessary. Drivers will have enough injuries with a metal bar collision to teach them a lesson for good. Also, the metal bar itself is dangerous enough and all spikes will do is increase the risk of bodily harm.
Should be a massive fine and if you almost hit a kid get some sort of attempted murder with deadly weapons charge. Because I mean if you do hit them then you get a manslaughter charge right?
Should be mandatory law nationwide that if you run a school bus stop you lose your license for a year, the next time two years, the third time you lose it permanently. Hit a kid running the school bus stop twenty years to life in prison. Same as using a gun to kill someone.
@@ZeroesAndHeroes Only if they were going ridiculous speeds. Other than that, it would only make them stop. Plus it would make people think twice before passing a stopped bus.
@@squirlking2You know the lights come on before the stop sign comes out to make sure you have time to stop safely right...🙄 I sure hope you pay attention on the roads better. I had a friend killed back in grade 9 from someone speeding passed a stopped bus 😔
@Lster S but in my country every driver always slow down when see school bus stop at roadside because we know students sure will go across the road. we never had any accidents like what happen in us. In my whole life i only saw only 2 case in news. if accident like what happen is us everytime in my country the driver will pay a price for it. Up to 15 years jail sentences, fined and revoked the license for life.
@Lster S you must be a driver shown in the video then lmao. There’s a literal stop sign on the bus...every car should be stopping. That’s why kids just get on/off the bus quickly without looking sometimes because it’s assumed that cars stop for the bus. Even if the kids look both ways, it’s possible a car could still go by🤦♀️. And not all buses stop beside the sidewalk, I’ve seen kids crossing the street. You see cars yielding for pedestrians going across the street, it’s the same thing for a bus with LITTLE KIDS, except there’s a literal stop sign. If you wanna risk killing KIDS then that’s on you 🤷🏻♀️🤦♀️I hope you ain’t driving around with that thought.
@@Ukraine2011.. for sure. I'm just saying, some of those videos you can't even see the stop sign. Just thought it'd help to have it stick out farther an make the sign a little bigger.
@@sjn5401 I agree but everyone knows already that when you see a giant yellow bus with multiple flashing red lights you need to stop. I think the people who blow through feel entitled and nothing will stop them. I also wonder if those drivers have kids or rode the bus when they were young. Some people are just jerks. But I agree with you.
When I was working patrol, I was not a big ticket writer and supervisors frowned on that. But this is one I truly enjoyed writing. I had two sons in school back then.
Thank you from this bus driver. We LOVE to see them stopped after they blow through our lights and usually the children on the bus will be cheering. 😊🇨🇦
I love people like you 😭 I work in a school transportation (various jobs there) and I often hear of tales of police learning routes of buses (especially with stops where a lot of kids get off) and staying close by to catch those who run the light. It’s not a big town here but we sadly do get runners a lot but those policemen do love writing tickets for those who truly deserve it!
My parents and I are bus drivers. This is always nerve-wracking especially when kids have to cross. We try and avoid cross students as much as possible but if they do, we have them look at us as we check for cars, when clear we motion them to cross. This saved one of my students, as I noticed this car would not stop so I motion him to stay. Thank God he was always good about looking up at me and also looking both ways. The person just speed right through and ignored the lights and me laying on the horn. Even my own brother almost got hit by a car when crossing to get on his bus.. Please if your student or child approaches a bus have them look at the bus driver and teach them to look both ways. It's just a few feet but a lot can happen within that small space.
I know it looks that way but no lol. The 3 of us got hired in different years but we are working together now. We all had our own reasons for wanting to be a bus driver.
I sincerely thank you for your extra effort to keep our children safe. Every time I get behind slow moving traffic, I thank the Lord. He may be saving me from a speeding ticket or even saving someone's life! Mine included!!
My kids driver tells them they are not allowed to come off the sidewalk until he waves them over. Period. It makes him slower on his route( and he is still on point with being on time) but its safer. I love their driver! He also gives a fist pump to all of the babies getting on. GREAT driver! Thank you as well for the service of helping our children and parents getting to school. It takes a special and kind person to be a driver and you guys have dealt with a LOT of crap. So thank you :)
They shouldn't hand out licenses like candy. My driver's ed. class didn't teach this and still allowed everyone to get their license. A few weeks over the summer is all the time you needed before being allowed to go out on the road. It's idiotic. So many kids have died in my town from car related injuries.
My home state really, REALLY needs to start passing some tougher laws to make sure drivers get the clear message that they should NOT disregard a stopped school bus’s signs. 🤦🏼♂️
more so kids need to have the patience to wait for all the traffic to pass. its not really the drivers fault. they have places to be and sometimes deadlines so bad they will get fired for not arriving on time(trust me i had a few who almost got fired). if you dont want your kids injured. drive em to school yourself. other than that. you only have yourself to blame
@@jackmagnium6115 oh true it’s not the drivers fault for running over and killing innocent children that were just trying to get home from school. For sure.
@Lster S Its a joke, dude. I was going along with the line of people saying what kind of sentence she should get. Obviously she shouldn't get a death sentence.
Do people SERIOUSLY not understand how dangerous what they're doing is?! DID PEOPLE SERIOUSLY ONLY TAKE ACTION AFTER THOSE 3 KIDS WERE KILLED FOR SOMEONE'S STUPIDITY?!
@@shekelman9336 i agree with that since i live in indonesia, you just had to assume there are some people that are driving wrecklessly and as a student you just have to be really carefull, but even so children are children so its up to the adults to do the right thing
@@rustyshackelford8689 all you gotta do is comply then when proven innocent you sue for wrongful imprisonment. We have the court system for a reason. Now ya there has to be improvements its been a joke for a long time but creating more laws certainly doesnt help when your crying for them to enforce some laws but not all
"I'm not in favour of camera's everywhere" said the guy, Unless it favours him and his no doubt. Camera's are never going to hurt those who obey the law, in fact they can help you, but fast moving cars will seriously hurt your children if they hit them.
@@thenewdislikebutton The rest of his statement kind of contradicted himself, didn’t it? First he says he’s against cameras and giving tickets, but then says something needs to be done. What else can they do besides hand out tickets?
I live in Florida and I’ve seen this happen way too many times I’d be absolutely terrified to drive by a stopped school bus and causing an innocent child any type of harm. I don’t understand why people think this is okay or why they don’t enforce this even more during the learning of getting your license.
Exactly. Then what are they going to say after running a sign and striking a child? "Oh, my bad. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to mow down your kids." Unfreakingbelievable.. SMH.
As a student I'd watch just how often this happened even with recordings outside the bus no one can be held accountable unless a cop is there. Id be cussing people out the bus as my driver would always use the bus horn whenever people would pass it infuriated us
My bus driver dealt with this so often she called the cops and had one every morning waiting at my bus stop to catch people that wouldn’t stop. Cop wrote a ton of tickets that year!
This would all be fixed if the stop sign was 5x bigger, you’d literally have to drive through the stop sign. Or you could have those things they have for train crossroads. Also the bus drivers should have an air/train horn. Never understood why tow trucks and roadside assistance use flashing sirens but busses use blinking lights. If anything school buses should be more obnoxious than police, fire, and ems. They have red and blue to get attention, so should stopped school buses.
these are great ideas, tho I believe it should just be a given when you see a school bus there is the understanding that it will stop and when it does you should also stop. If a driver can’t tell what a bus is from a few glances, something that looks so unique compared to other vehicles, or they don’t know the rules for driving on the road with school buses then they probably shouldn’t be driving period 😅 but the road signs are great, my city has some for drivers coming from the opposite way of the bus stop and I’ve watched them stop accidents
@@Riskwarrior Yes but with these new self driving cars and drivers becoming more and more distracted something needs to change. You could argue that the kids should look both ways but end of the day there should be something that gets even the distracted drivers attention. Even a school bell on top would be better than what bus drivers currently have to get peoples attention.
@@justabloke7222 so why do emergency vehicles have such bright lights and loud sounds? You can’t pay attention to everything at once, but the safety of these kids should be every drivers priority and we should do everything we can to alert them when a bus is full of kids. I wouldn’t mind if we had to pull over to the side like emergency vehicles to let them pass. I mean they’re not even wearing seat belts.. why is the life of one person going to the hospital or someone’s speeding ticket more important than the lives of 40+ kids?
This happens all the time in my neighborhood. My mom started dressing in those neon things cops wear, and she also called some cops to monitor my stop, since my stop was probably the most dangerous out of all of the bus stops. God bless the police officers who helped me out, I'll never forget!
What about the times where they walking home or to the bus stop and they cross a road without looking? We need a camera there too? Education is the best way to fix the problem or neutralize the immediate danger. You can’t put up a camera everywhere. I mean seriously what is a camera gonna do besides capture the moment? Ya ain’t gonna see that ticket for a week or two and most would already forget that it even happened.
@@billyblanton8042 if someone crossed the road without looking and jaywalked that’s a completely different situation than not stopping at the bus’ stop lights. Yes everyone should look before crossing the road but what people are doing here is illegal and they should be held accountable with sole responsibility the same way as when a car runs through a red light and almost crashes into someone who went because of their green light.
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public. People record dash cam videos all the time. This would be no different. This problem wont stop by telling people to be better. You can tell a person up and down what could happen when they illegally pass a bus, but they wont care if there aren't any reproductions. The cameras would only harm the driver if they were doxed and their address is leaked. TBH, this info would only be between schools and the cops. I feel this is only a problem for people who are dumb enough to illegaly pass busses. This is one of the first thing taught in drivers ED. There is no reasonable reason to be passing a giant yellow bus with a Stop sign protruding purposely for all to see. Not to mention the flashing lights and small humans scrambling aboard.
“This bus driver (May) have saved his life”. No, She definitely SAVED his life.
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he wasnt gonna make it out in time to get hit + if he got hit its still very possible that he survives...
No he was gonna make it cause he was walking slow but still maybe not definitely
He wouldn't of died idiot
@@aristiaevron4824 7
The woman in Indiana that killed 3 kids only got 4 years... thats sad
Sucks they didn't multiply that sentence by 100
Sometimes justice is never fairly served
That is so sad. People who have done less have gotten way more time. The law system in America need a massive overhaul.
If I had my way she would have gotten one year for each victim a hafe a year for each would or could have been victim and add all the ages for the victims to that pathetic 4 year sentence she got.
@@gaius5901 It's incredibly hard to just "remake the laws"
Hope harassment is waiting
I don't understand how people are willing to risk a CHILD'S life just to avoid a few minutes of waiting. When it comes to such a young life we should do everything we can to protect them.
Sad thing is it’s not even a few minutes, just seconds a bus comes down my road and the kids run off of it ready to go home.
yea f that
I agree with you
I think ppl arent paying attention its not malice
Not even a few minutes-just seconds
I really don’t understand how some people are in a hurry, either leave home 20 minutes earlier or be late, there’s no need to cause accidents.
Probably because they flat out didn't know. Education systems are a joke. I wasn't even taught this as a teen driver.
Personally, I hated driving because I knew I wasn't ready, but they still gave me a license. I practically had to teach myself everything I know today.
@@JoMcD21 “I practically had to teach myself everything I know today” yeah that’s life lmfao , no one’s responsible for teaching you common sense
@@cool-yt1zq
Common sense would say don't give someone a license who isn't ready to drive.
@@JoMcD21 nah common sense says stop and go slow near a school zone or park and common sense also says stop when you see a stop sign 🤣🤣
Exactly.
Being late will let you live another day instead of rushing to pass away early and to top it all of taking countless lives with you.
All states should make this law...you run past a bus with lights...minimum 1000 fine and immediate license revoked!!! I dont even have kids and this pisses me off
The reason fines never work is because they aren't progressive. The fine should not be a set amount. If you make $200,000 a year, a $1,000 fine isn't going to hurt you at all.
A whole paycheck! Or even 2 paychecks!
Not just America too
Agreed
Please dont have any either
The person who killed the 3 kids should have gotten life tf
YEAH! Like that's straight up murder and it was more than one person AND THEY WERE CHILDREN!
@@shartbossmaster It's technically not murder unless it can be proven that the person driving the car had the intent to kill. This probably falls under manslaughter, but the driver definitely deserves life in prison.
Or 40 years and license deducted
Unfortunately, she only got 4 years in prison, 3 years on house arrest, and a 10-year license suspension. Got off way too easy for killing 3 children. She also had the audacity to appeal which was denied.
@@pokochoco5931 No one was saying they were superior.
Make the sign a massive pole so it just destroys someone’s car for putting a minors life at risk
Lmaoo
Lol it should throw a whole barricade at the car
Actually not a bad idea.
While that sounds good in theory, it's a bad decision. Cause now you are putting the driver and passengers at risk, and the one think USA is really well known for its suing for all the dumbest things. Regardless if it was their fault or not, and just on legal expenses alone, that would be too costly for the schools.
@@HaLo2121x dude its a joke not an assignment
While I understand citations via camera has been deemed “unconstitutional due to invasion of privacy” at stop lights, this is a completely different scenario. This isn’t about simply running a red light, speeding and other basic traffic violations. This is about common knowledge knowing damn well children are getting off the bus and walking directly into traffic. Some kids have to walk in front of the bus as their home isn’t on the same side as the door. Some kids are very young and have not developed the concept to always look for oncoming vehicles. I fully support more action taken to catch these drivers and not simply send a ticket, but to have more aggressive charges as I feel like more people wouldn’t want to risk catching a case. I personally knew someone who almost lost their 1st grader due to a driver in a hurry, intentionally sped by and passed the bus and hitting this child. The boy was thrown into the air, suffered a bad head injury and endured many broken bones but thankfully did not pass away. I’ve witnessed many drivers ignoring a bus stopping to unload children but, again, thankfully no child was hurt.
i agree, we can make an exception for this. i wish my bus had cameras, one that actually were quality and could catch the license plate.
i also wish all my kids paid better attention -- it's actually my younger ones that follow these rules better simply because most of them are eager to please the authority figure. i say that, but my elementary students are english second language kids whose upbringing tends to be better than, ah, certain others.
our routes are designed to pick up on the resident side as much as possible. they're also made by computers, so there's always something left to be desired in real life, so there's always some tweaking that needs to happen.
My district doesn't allow kids to cross the street
The bus will drive by and turn around else where to drop the kid off on the correct side
@@dominicklipari i get the safety of that, but how utterly wasteful.
@@manlymcstud8588 desperate times call for desperate measures?
@@manlymcstud8588 also the "turn around" usually a big circle and they drop off other kids off on the way
I've stopped for a school bus and people were literally going around me they DO. NOT. CARE. its sickening... it's like would you rather be late to work or kill a kid crossing the road..
YEAH I RATHER WALK THAN DRIVE(My parents drive me home)
I started putting my car over the line to keep people behind me from passing while stopped behind busses. I would much rather be rear ended than to watch a helpless child be hurt/killed from a careless driver.
I've stopped in the middle of both lanes behind a bus to make sure no one passed. People have tried passing me. They gotta hit me before those kids tho
Same things happened to me. I even had someone lay on the horn behind me when I was stopped for a schoolbus.
@@chaysethebadger Wow as a child i thank you 🤩
That poor Mother who lost 3 of her babies ALL at once...I just couldn't imagine nor would I want to! God, my heart goes out to her and her family.
How about a rocket that launches from the bus when someone runs the arm
And the woman that hit the children only spent 2 years in prison and still doesn't acknowledge she did anything wrong.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 2 yrs?! Wow...now that's a huge smack in the face! Smfh
@@CrunchWrpSUPREME i love it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@selenabelmares4236 "Equality"
WTF is wrong with people it only takes a second to stop I mean come on would you rather arrive somewhere a little late or would you rather kill or paralyze a kid and go to jail
Um im not gonna be late gtfo the way
@@blackfacehardon5163 damn right. These kids are gonna have to learn to dodge traffic eventually. If I had time to stop for a school bus I would've had time to scrape more ice off of my windshield than a 2 inch by 2 inch square in the 1st place. They can't expect every driver to even see a school bus let alone stop for one. I got places to be.
@@chrisk6668 lmaooooo you act like you’re so important you can’t even stop. It’s a law to stop at a stop sign, you ain’t got nowhere to be. Ignorant as hell! Taking someone’s life to rush to McDonald’s. Smh
@@GabyP17 obviously I wasnt serious. I was just rolling with the comment I replied to.
@@GabyP17 I agree. Getting to a job on time is not more important than stopping for a school bus picking up kids . Heck don’t care what your boss says about that just stop and wait and tell your boss to F off and that you don’t want to hurt a child.
Give that bus driver a freakin medal… someone acknowledge her and tell her she is a hero and a living legend
Omg I could not imagine being a mother and losing 3 of my children. All that loss at once. All those memories 😢
Yeah, you can't heal from that... I pray for her
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😩😩😩😭😭😭😭
I’d feel like they might as well just kill me too! 😢
I would have to locked up
Can someone post the video link
You know what I agree, we shouldn’t give tickets to people who pass the bus. We should arrest them and then give the a ticket after jail.
@@893R6-w8t lol rip
@@893R6-w8t you saw nothing 👀👀
I disagree with you unless someone is killed other then that I think a ticket is fine
@@FaerieSweetener give those oxygen thieves a reason not to pass a bus for no reason
@@gtd1783 Honestly some drivers are careless but if they needed to speed for a reason then I wouldn't get mad
People are disgusting.
3 poor children killed simply because some impatient monster couldn't wait a minute or 2.
Not even a minute, like 20 seconds.
The person needs life in prison
got to love this country, were nobody cares about other people and people are prepared to run over children just to save 30 seconds of their time. keep in mind, nobodies 30 seconds is worth the life of 3 children.
@@GameRunnerd its a thing people said when innocent beings get misfurtune like getting killed they could be more rich than elon musk
@@GameRunnerd Do you have braincells?
One of my friends, who never got their driver's license nor has any interest in getting one, knows that if a bus is stopped with the signs out then you need to stop.
Don't stop signs mean that you have to come to a stop, look and if it's clear, you can go?
One of my middle school bus drivers used to be write down every licensed plate that passed her down, like she was on a hunt 😂
OMG 😂😂
That's amazing imagine if these lunatics did this one day and killed a child.
Same with my old bus driver
There’s people who care even when you think there’s no one that does
My bus driver did that too. He would take those notices to police, and one my friend’s dad was the driver who passed (even though his son rode the bus everyday, and he knew it was dangerous since it was a spot where most kids got off the bus) and he later got a ticket for it.
It's literally only 5 seconds, wherever you're going is not that important.
Many just don't care and start flipping at buses.
Sometimes it’s longer, it really depends how long it takes for kids to get on or off the bus, in some states you have to wait for the bus to resume motion so it could be 1 to 2 minutes in some cases. I don’t illegally pass stopped school buses and don’t think it’s ok to do so but for me I would be annoyed if I had to stop because I wouldn’t want to have stop from going 35 to 40 (or however fast I’m going) when I’m not even in the intersection, especially if I’m on the other side on a road with 4 or more lanes
@@thevarietykid686 I know it can be longer, I wasn't using 5 seconds as the exact time limit for all bus stops like that. My point is that there's no reason for you to be passing a bus like that especially when they have their sign up. From what I know most buses have a set schedule so most people tend to know roughly when a bus is going to be somewhere. So I feel like you should either leave earlier or look for another way around. Those people are putting a child's life in danger and in the case some children have lost their lives because of people like that, but I do get what you're saying though.
@@Rlotpir1972 And that's the sad thing about it all. Most don't care about anyone else but themselves.
It is. Your kids are not special.
bus stop sign cams nationwide. 🛑 if it saves lives I support that.
Same
@Bowhunters i like that thats a good idea
This. In my state it was ILLEGAL until recently due to "privacy concerns"
idiots
Cameras in other areas are already causing issues. they dont work. we need our police to start monitoring this and issuing tickets. Look up toll road camera issues and look up speeding canera issues. they dont work.
No more driving, fast food, and mandated exercise. If it saves lives you support that.
I've almost been hit multiple times. Happened almost everyday my 8th grade year. Now going into 10th, I'm terrified of buses. I'm so happy my freshman year that my bus driver gets off the bus and will scream and yell at drivers for this BS.
You’ll become a fan of cameras when it’s your child being killed or hit by a careless irresponsible wreck less driver !! Jail those idiots for 30 days for doing it! It might save a child’s life !
Right?! That guy’s a moron, btw; “I’m not a fan of cameras and ticketing people, BUT something needs to be done...”
Dude, that IS something being done. 🙄
@@SoCalJellybean "I'm not a fan of consequences, we need something that could stop people from doing bad things"
@@SoCalJellybean Let's not name call
Go further, take their license away.
@@Kai-cc9ct damn
First time a fine. Repeating offenders should be registered and their license revoked for life.
keep dreaming
@@001looker keep risking kids lives
Stephen Sullivan watch it potty mouth
Michael Lawn I’m going to make the assumption you hate kids.
@@LittleJerryFan92 I guess it really is true what they say about assuming. Do you really think that if someone isnt completely on board with a lifetime ban on driving for a 2nd driving offense or even if they are but know damn well it will never happen that they must hate children? Because that is a completely assinine conclusion to come too.
I had a woman get mad at me for stopping for a bus, laid on the horn multiple times, passed me while laying on the gas and yelling at me, almost taking out a kiddo, and then promptly pulled over by the officer on the other side of the bus she couldn’t see. My husband did a Nelson laugh as we drove by, cop smiled. Sweet, sweet karma.
I’m glad she was pulled over
@RECKLEZZ Oh no, was the kiddo ok?
@RECKLEZZ I hope somebody got the person’s license plate. Poor kiddo. It’s sad really, people used to look out for each other now everybody’s so selfish they can’t even pay attention to what they’re doing.
@RECKLEZZ your city ain’t cool your city is stupid and you are too can’t change my mind
Indeed! Sweet! Thats what I loved about riding a school bus too. Sweet Instant Karma! I wonder how much was his ticket? Probably about $360! Did you ever find out from your husband? LOL! SM
I say bring a bill to incriminate under the penal code since they decide to use their vehicle as a weapon.
Many years ago, I was driving a fully loaded 3/4 ton truck down a VERY steep hill. I was geared down and only going about 25 mph. I came around the corner and just KNEW the bus was going to stop and let kids off. Sure enough, the sign came out and lights started flashing. This was WAY before anti-lock brakes and all four wheels were locked was I tried to stop and laid on the horn. I remember being so scared I would hit a kid. I was looking for where to put the truck (the ditch was starting to look very good) when the driver retracted the sign and waved me through. I stopped anyway, with about 10 feet to spare. And then waited for the kids to cross. The driver yelled through he window "Nice stop. That had both of us cringing...". I still cannot believe how many people just do not care. Drivers are trained to spot these conditions and hold the kids back. They have a tough job, we do not have to make it more difficult. This driver was on top of things. Totally awesome.
I like this story.
Iv seen a video of a school in New York and the kids were getting off the bus to go into school, and this is like an elementary school as well, and the driver just couldn't wait so he drove up on the sidewalk where to kids were walking into school and almost hit a few of em as well. It just blew my mind
Nice move and yeah people should be more attentive to school buses... It's not fair for the kids to die or get hurt cuz of some idiots who drive fast
At least you laid on the horn to give warning, so the driver knew you were coming and likely were having trouble.
That's more then I can say for the 4 times I've nearly been hit and run over.
Well if you just knew the bus driver was going to stop you should have listened to your gut and started slowing down right then and there. Glad everyone was okay.
Even tho I’m 15 I completely agree in making this a law there’s so many idiots that don’t deserve to drive
@Lster S - What? This person is saying he supports that we need a law to stop illegal passing. What are you talking about?
@Lster S - Oh okay. Sorry I misunderstood your original comment.
@Lster S you know they should still stop-.. either way they will be moving so they might get hit
@Lster S yes, because every single kid coming off that bus is going to stay on the side they were dropped off and not ever need to cross the street. Stopping traffic to prevent dangerous situations is not unnecessary.
@Lster S you're delusional
“I’m not a fan of cameras and tickets, but something needs to be done about this.”
Geez, dude. Then what do you suggest?
What an idiot. He must be thinking, Did I really say that on camera?
In my opinion cameras aren’t the answer. I believe bus drivers need to get out, stop traffic and assist the children across the road like they did before these “stop arms”.
@@MasterMayhem78 bus drivers can’t get out and help especially if there are students still on the bus waiting to go to the next spot to get dropped off. And schools certainly don’t have enough funding for extra aides on the bus to do what you suggest.
Clearly he just wants drivers to stop on their own bc he has no other idea that actually works lol
@@MasterMayhem78 you can’t get out if there’s still students on the bus. Your suggestion is just plain stupid.
Big acknowledgement to the bus driver for being alert and preventing that kid from being hurt. She could've easily been complacent. Outstanding Job ma'am, whoever you are!!!
As a student who has almost been hit 3 times getting on and off the bus, I think we should arrest these people who don't stop!
I agree
Not happening.
Fine them 10% of their annual income per infraction and they will stop lol
The thing is, There’s too many people doing it
@@arielperez3613 that means there are too many people driving, that shouldn't be driving
I almost died getting on a school bus because of people like this
Glad to hear that you didn't fall victim to these idiots' driving abilities.
Same I was walking past with my friend and a car just zoomed by there was like 3 cars waiting but the one passed those cars and almost hit us but we just ran
I didn't have a situation quite that bad but one car didn't stop and gave us all a scare. My stop is right on the side of one of the busiest roads and one of my drivers once asked the school board to move the stop since it was dangerous but they ignored him and fired him. I'm really mad that they did that because it is quite possible someone is going to get hit on that stop one day.
Same my bus driver had to call the police once just so i could cross the street.
People don’t do that here in Florida I’ve never seen anyone does it here I’m quite surprised
If someone ever says they "didn't know" is full of horse crap. That's the first question on the driver's license test that they bought and didn't earn.
And how do you not see a big yellow school bus anyway?
@@SOU6900 If that's the case, they should have been very familiar with riding the short bus.
@@donutreligion2979 Don't insult autistic people for something they can't change and didn't ask for. Insult the people ignoring laws, and killing kids.
@@user-kg6pr1iv4i He didn't mention autism at all. Why do you assume people with autism ride the short bus?
@@user-kg6pr1iv4i where I'm from the problem kids that are on probation usually ride the short bus :/ tho the other kids ride different buses
They should confiscate the vehicle and revoke the driver's license for life.
YEah and MANDATORY 60 days in jail to cool them off.
Well it's just as well then my automobile isn't registered and doesn't bear number plates.
And I don't stand under claims of authority by other human beings over me.
Guess that means you'll have to *teach* YOUR OWN CHILD how to cross the road safely.
Yes? No?? Escalate it to the point that it still remains a "Me" problem???
What are you going to do next?
"You put a child's life at risk and potentially could've killed them."
"Here's a citation." 😐😐😐
should be jail time.
Should have a more strict driver's education system. Licenses are far too easy to get a hold of.
@@JoMcD21 Is this supposed to make sense?
@@layedbackthomas
My bad
*Driver's education
Lol, I see why that was confusing now 😅
@@JoMcD21 All good haha. I thought you were trying to go at the kids or something lol.
The buses should just stop in the middle of the road so there’s no room for cars to pass by
In my area they actually park diagonal in the road.
Unfortunately, that still won't stop some people. I saw a UA-cam video of drives going up on sidewalks to get around school busses
Me lil sisters bus driver used to do that
In Texas they do send citations I got one no I didn’t do it on purpose I was literally next to the bus when it started slowing down which of course caused me to pass the light. I paid my ticket and am more careful since then…. But I don’t see people speeding and ignoring the stop sign. At least not that often. They need to give citations, community service or something
That’s actually brilliant
It's really infuriating to see that still happening. It was a problem when I was a kid and I had a couple of close calls myself. Make the penalty for failing to stop very severe, like say losing your license for a year or something, and I bet the incident numbers go way down
We’re way too lenient in America when it comes to things like this and licenses are way too easy to obtain
@@jaimeb6873 I agree! It should be like it is in some European countries and be required to complete a professional driving school and we need to make the penalties for some infractions super extreme!
@@warrenwilson720 then again you know what they say. look both ways and wait for traffic to pass. stop signs garantee nothing. dont take anything for granted and rely on your knowledge.
I am thankful I don’t live near traffic when I was on the bus a car almost hit me full speed because she was on her phone
@@warrenwilson720 Wait what, Americans don't need to complete a driving school course before taking the test?
I’m a school bus driver myself and I always keep my eyes peeled for other cars whenever I’m at a child’s stop
Glad the young boy was safe. That was heartbreaking to hear of the three young children that lost there life my heart goes out to the parents.
I’m a school bus driver in Utah, I drive little kids, people pass me all the time . I don’t let my kids cross the street until every car has stoped. I had a snow plow almost hit 2 little boys in front of their mom. This is totally unacceptable, these people need to be held accountable.
"Did u take the driving test?"
"Yeah, why?"
"Did u forget everything you're supposed to do on the road after getting your license?"
"Yeah, why?"
"We're supposed to stop behind a school bus?"
"We're supposed to stop at stop signs?"
"We're supposed to turn wheel inwards/outwards when parking on a slope?"
"normally we'd require you to take a vision test and a written test to renew your license but it's been waved due to Covid" the DMV lady said to me 2 days ago
@@SArtisto1 Omg seriously!? Thats terrible! Gosh it frightens me how many unqualified drivers we have on the road
Americans can't drive on the correct side of the road, you expect them to understand a four letter word?
Pretty much 80% of the licensed population
If law makers were worried about it the penalty would be a minimum of 30 days in jail and a large fine.
A friendly reminder wow. They wont get a friendly anything if they hit my kid running a bus stop.
Your kid dosen't look both ways before crossing any street? Do we need to call child protective services since you clearly don't know how to properly raise children!! 🤦🏿♂️
Yep and also kids who walk home like many times I've almost been hit because some girl told me I could past so I was doing that then some guy got made and TRIED HITTING ME lucky I boo ganged it before he could
@@newbeginning9112 lmaoo yea ok. I wont bother trying to convince some random on youtube other wise 🤣🤣
@@tenebrosia9755 some people like the person who first commented lack common sense. Please do call a social worker saying the parents should be looked into because an adult blew a stop sign and injured or killed them. The social worker would probably send mental health to anybody who thinks it was the parents fault 😂
@@newbeginning9112 that’s... not how it works??
I’m a school bus driver and I can certainly tell you this happens pretty much every day. It is very dangerous and very frustrating to see. Love to see when the drivers get caught by a cop.
Your country is dumb enough to keep exit of the bus into the road rather than towards sidewalk.....ignorants
Thank you for your service.
i've yet to see one get busted for blowing my bus off. all i can do is blow my horn and if they look at me be like, 'wtf?!'
i have three stops that are confusing to drivers, so i get those. one of those i don't even know the rules on, the other two are debatable. it's not like every situation is in the books. those don't have any crossers so i don't get bent out of shape on those.
i also wish these laws were uniform across every state.
What happend to looking both ways b4 crossing?
@@NewPhone-bs7mt smart phones don't help. i tell them all the time to look both ways, some do, some don't. every time a car blows me off i remind them that's why you look both ways. you can't get it through some kids' heads.
I don't live in the US but I think if someone is caught on camera doing this, nevermind a citation, they should automatically have their license revoked for however many months.
Impound their cars and revoke their licenses would be better. That way they can't go rent a car either.
It won't really stop it though as the person driving may not be the owner. Impounding the car though is a good idea. If the owner wasn't the driver then they will be pissed at whoever borrowed the car.
It's the same for red light cameras, they only capture the tag and not who is driving.
I don’t get why the buses don’t just pull over to the sidewalk/pavement like the rest of world with common sense do
@@randomname528 buses deliver kids to residential areas and most are built different so it's not a possibility in all circumstances
@@randomname528 did you even watch the video? When kids get off the bus, some of them will decide to cross the street right then and there. It’s acceptable because there NOW IS a stop sign which is the bus stop sign. Anyone who has a driver’s license know that *pedestrians always have the right-of-way*
This is literally the most important kind of stop sign.
And not the ones teaching pedestrians to *STOP,* L👀K and LISTEN??
I’ve personally ALWAYS stopped at the bus sign because it was taught in drivers Ed. That’s even worse than running a red light.
You're suppose to anyway
Instead of issuing a ticket, how about mandatory jail time and loss of driver's license for a number of years.
Lol no
that may be extreme but i agree
give them harsher punishments so they dont do it again
maybe a mandatory retake of the drivers test too
@@novacyther7677, extreme? You’re just as much as an idiot as the guy in the video!
@@xxsumixxtrax8159 that IS too extreme. it is the best idea ive heard in a while, to get cameras to give out tickets for this. but mistakes happen with cameras, and those red light cameras have been known to give tickets out to PARKED CARS they register on the sides of the road. mistakes are costly, and take a lot of time to resolve. get THOUSANDS of moving cameras on the streets in america and mistakes are going to skyrocket. its easier to deal with a small mistake like a ticket than to fix something big like someone being arrested later and having to reinstate a drivers licence that was wrongfully revoked (and more than likely wrongful arrest lawsuits galore) after their car was mistakenly captured when NOT doing anything wrong. courthouses would be SWAMPED forevermore. the paperwork alone for ONE case like that would be wretched! let alone thousands every day, bc like i said a moving camera is going to be more difficult to deal with than a motionless red light camera. these cameras arent being looked at by a human unless someone reports a dispute against the ticket. its all automatic. they get your licence plate on camera, ticket is automatically mailed to you. imagine thousands of automatic warrants issued for arrests in these cases. geeze. this is what judges are for, to judge things on a case by case basis if someone DID do something horrendous and needs to be arrested. a $350-$500 ticket and youll think twice before running past a bus again. theres no reason to have such harsh consequences if something else is effective in lowering the number of instances. you cant impose overly harsh or inhumane treatments when the punishment doesnt fit the crime. what would be next? jail time for running a stop sign? or for jaywalking? both of those infractions can be extremely dangerous as well. that is just a point, use your brain before replying something snarky to this to anyone reading this comment as if i were lessening the impact of driving past a bus in comparison to jaywalking.
@@xxsumixxtrax8159 Late, but I am NOT an idiot; Jail is too serious and only should apply on serious topics.
This topic is still serious but not to the point you need a trial. (car crashes and accidents aside)
It’s a literal traffic law... why are these people given licenses when they don’t even know all of their traffic laws :((( in Canada they have significantly less traffic deaths because they have do such rigorous testing on drivers before they are licensed.
I wish driving was taken more seriously here in the states. I get so sick of people being bad drivers when so many people die each year in accidents.
There are tons of traffic laws that people ignore every day. Speeding, no u-turn, stopping at red lights, stopping at stop signs, no turning right on red, yielding, no parking in red zones.
And yet...
@@HELL0NESSA those exact people are bound to get into crashes
Idk I saw a video about a guy getting a driver's license in the US and it seemed ridiculously easy. That may be a thing to change
"liberals" DON'T GIVE NO !@#$S - also California gives out licenses like puffy stickers - no se hicieron preguntas
Everyone is afraid of dying from a self driving car but no one is afraid is dying from a millions of idiots on the road every day
Perhaps the idiots are the people failing to teach/learn how to cross the road *SAFELY.*
Did you think about that??
imagining being dumb and not waiting for 5 secs to end up being in jail for 15 years
more like 4 years
yup, for 3 lives. imagine just one?
15 would been better than 3?
She got a year for every kid she killed.
That woman that killed 3 kids got 4 years.
@@cscn_3465 no way do I agree, 3 innocents life’s were lost for someone’s irresponsibility. The original comment said something like “imagine getting 15 years in prison for not waiting”, and I believe the lady only received 3-4 years of sentence, so I was trying to say even 15 years would have been better than 3. And if she did get 3-4 years it’s basically almost 1 year per kid she killed, that’s how much the lives of these children were to whoever made the sentence. Sadly, because like you mention, the pain the parents will have, will be eternal for them, and the lady who ran them over will get a chance to start over once she’s out of prison.
I love how one of the guys is like “ I’m not a fan of cameras and ticket giving” you know he does it then. 🤡
You are ignoring the rest of what he said. Why?
@@LA_HA I heard everything he said. What else do you suppose the county does ? They should give tickets because guess what human life especially a child’s is more important that someone getting penalize for doing something they are not supposed to do. So if there’s soMe thing that’s works better love to hear it because clearly the stop signs aren’t working. Wondering why someone would say that unless they themselves do it. It’s easy for someone without a child to say stupid bs like that. It’s the assumption for me. He literally says that and then but something needs to be done. Thanks still feel the same 😝 if you don’t like it to bad.
@@gabriellacorrea5846 It was a question. You answered it. I thank you. If you wish to assume things about the guy though he explained his caveat, that's beyond the scope of my query. Be safe and well
@@LA_HA do u use fancy words because it makes u feel good about urself or are you just that annoying
@@Blackporto47 My most profound, sincerest apologies for the inconvenient necessity in having to look up my superfluity of vocables. I shall make a prodigious effort to simplify any and all acknowledgments and repartee from this present time henceforth. M'kay?
A car passed my bus driver in my development while he was letting kids out, and after the last kid got off, he whipped that bus around and followed the guy to his house. Got his listened plate and left. We were all cheering. 😂😂😂
Woah but hey people always say bus drivers cause accidents but the biggest dumbasses on the road is cars i repeat cars not busses but the news makes bus Drivers look like bad drivers and its stupid plus I remember one year a van ran into our bus and the bus was completely stopped
I would give your drive a nice middle finger being nothing will happen to me if i was that driver.
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@@PANZERFAUST90 Who cares how KC spells it ok
Every parent at a bus stop needs to carry a rock!
A flamethrower that spits fire across the oncoming lane would certainly deter drivers from passing and could be a viable solution
Kids will get toasted.
@@user-kn1rg2br4h It’s a joke 😂
spike strips would be more effective
@@Workerbobby I like that idea. Possibly an alligator pit also
@@mollago that would be kinda hard to construct but it could work
Put a secondary crossing arm (like the one on the front of school busses) that opens up in the lane next to the drivers side, that way oncoming traffic literally has to stop or it'll hit a metal bar.
Like the 11’-8” bridge? Aka the can opener.
That’s a great idea
Exactly!!!
Yes with huge metal spikes facing the cars.
@@danielmerrick5290 I don’t think that’s necessary. Drivers will have enough injuries with a metal bar collision to teach them a lesson for good. Also, the metal bar itself is dangerous enough and all spikes will do is increase the risk of bodily harm.
Same people who don’t let ambulances pass do this, every buss needs these cameras
A letter? A friggin letter? Screw that. Heavy fine and a day in jail.
Should be a massive fine and if you almost hit a kid get some sort of attempted murder with deadly weapons charge. Because I mean if you do hit them then you get a manslaughter charge right?
The man that failed to stop and hit and killed my 12 yr old son on 10/25/12 got only 17 months. He was charged with a class H felony.
@@sharonkempf1276 I am so sorry for your loss
That’s what I was thinking. If they got charged for attempted murder, it would teach them a lesson.
Install longer stop arms, 6 to 10 feet arms like those at railroads crossing.
There still stupid people they don’t care long Arm
There’s a fee if you break through the barriers.
Exactly. Railroad style arm with police style strobes on it!
Yes!!! and put it on a big spring, so if they hit it, it will scratch down the side of their car and not break off.
Yep those signs are to short .
every kid after school "please end my suffering"
Dumb drivers: _With pleasure_
Ooo thats.... thats dark
Yeah school is pretty long and boring sometimes and you just want it to end.
Dark humor
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@@nandafaiqfadhlurrahman2144 2021 needs to get better ..
Should be mandatory law nationwide that if you run a school bus stop you lose your license for a year, the next time two years, the third time you lose it permanently. Hit a kid running the school bus stop twenty years to life in prison. Same as using a gun to kill someone.
Some people say the amount of time a bus is stopped is excessive, but when millions of children’s lives are at risk, no time is too long.
People who say that need to fix their priorities 😒
lol I agree...It really doesn't take long and anyone with a brain learns they can pass WHEN SAFE! People are just idiots. @@justabloke7222
When the stop signs come out, so should spike strips
YASSSSS
@@ZeroesAndHeroes Only if they were going ridiculous speeds. Other than that, it would only make them stop. Plus it would make people think twice before passing a stopped bus.
What if your going the opposite direction and your already past the buses bumper? Its too late to safely stop.
The kids are not at the door yet.
@@ZeroesAndHeroes I think he was joking
@@squirlking2You know the lights come on before the stop sign comes out to make sure you have time to stop safely right...🙄 I sure hope you pay attention on the roads better. I had a friend killed back in grade 9 from someone speeding passed a stopped bus 😔
those drivers didn’t deserve a license
@Lster S because they ignore student’s safety. what if they hit their own kids and die at scene then by that time they regret its already too late
@Lster S but in my country every driver always slow down when see school bus stop at roadside because we know students sure will go across the road. we never had any accidents like what happen in us. In my whole life i only saw only 2 case in news. if accident like what happen is us everytime in my country the driver will pay a price for it. Up to 15 years jail sentences, fined and revoked the license for life.
@Lster S I think your one of them
Or vote
@Lster S you must be a driver shown in the video then lmao. There’s a literal stop sign on the bus...every car should be stopping. That’s why kids just get on/off the bus quickly without looking sometimes because it’s assumed that cars stop for the bus. Even if the kids look both ways, it’s possible a car could still go by🤦♀️. And not all buses stop beside the sidewalk, I’ve seen kids crossing the street. You see cars yielding for pedestrians going across the street, it’s the same thing for a bus with LITTLE KIDS, except there’s a literal stop sign. If you wanna risk killing KIDS then that’s on you 🤷🏻♀️🤦♀️I hope you ain’t driving around with that thought.
Its attempted murder. Charge them with a minimum of 5 years. They will stop
I've almost got hit multiple times while crossing streets or just standing in parking lots. People don't care at all.
Dam
You need to stay home
They should make those stop signs stick out farther.
They don't need that. The bus has flashing lights on the front and back. No excuse for someone doing this
@@Ukraine2011.. for sure. I'm just saying, some of those videos you can't even see the stop sign. Just thought it'd help to have it stick out farther an make the sign a little bigger.
If you can't see that then you don't need to be driving
SJ N finally, an educated comment. That would be a great idea honestly
@@sjn5401 I agree but everyone knows already that when you see a giant yellow bus with multiple flashing red lights you need to stop. I think the people who blow through feel entitled and nothing will stop them. I also wonder if those drivers have kids or rode the bus when they were young. Some people are just jerks. But I agree with you.
When I was working patrol, I was not a big ticket writer and supervisors frowned on that. But this is one I truly enjoyed writing. I had two sons in school back then.
Thank you from this bus driver. We LOVE to see them stopped after they blow through our lights and usually the children on the bus will be cheering. 😊🇨🇦
I love people like you 😭 I work in a school transportation (various jobs there) and I often hear of tales of police learning routes of buses (especially with stops where a lot of kids get off) and staying close by to catch those who run the light.
It’s not a big town here but we sadly do get runners a lot but those policemen do love writing tickets for those who truly deserve it!
Most of the drivers are most likely full grown adults, with their own children……
God bless the lady bus driver pulling the kid back 🙏 saved his life
My parents and I are bus drivers. This is always nerve-wracking especially when kids have to cross. We try and avoid cross students as much as possible but if they do, we have them look at us as we check for cars, when clear we motion them to cross. This saved one of my students, as I noticed this car would not stop so I motion him to stay. Thank God he was always good about looking up at me and also looking both ways. The person just speed right through and ignored the lights and me laying on the horn. Even my own brother almost got hit by a car when crossing to get on his bus.. Please if your student or child approaches a bus have them look at the bus driver and teach them to look both ways. It's just a few feet but a lot can happen within that small space.
Bus driving run in your family or something?
I know it looks that way but no lol. The 3 of us got hired in different years but we are working together now. We all had our own reasons for wanting to be a bus driver.
I sincerely thank you for your extra effort to keep our children safe. Every time I get behind slow moving traffic, I thank the Lord. He may be saving me from a speeding ticket or even saving someone's life! Mine included!!
My kids driver tells them they are not allowed to come off the sidewalk until he waves them over. Period. It makes him slower on his route( and he is still on point with being on time) but its safer. I love their driver! He also gives a fist pump to all of the babies getting on. GREAT driver! Thank you as well for the service of helping our children and parents getting to school. It takes a special and kind person to be a driver and you guys have dealt with a LOT of crap. So thank you :)
Drivers that are actually smart:
Oh a big red sign that says stop I should stop.
Some stupid drivers: Does red mean go? I mean alright.
Their brain at a green light: reduce, reuse, recycle
Red light: well, im terrified of red, I'm out.
@cuckinator lol
This should be taken just a seriously as drink driving
My Mom was a bus driver for 25 yrs. She is amazing and has dealt with so much. These drivers should receive heavy fines.
They shouldn't hand out licenses like candy. My driver's ed. class didn't teach this and still allowed everyone to get their license. A few weeks over the summer is all the time you needed before being allowed to go out on the road. It's idiotic. So many kids have died in my town from car related injuries.
You mean minimum mandatory 60 days in jail. ...PERIOD!
God bless bus drivers. It's truly one of the most unappreciated positions
I had a horrible one when I was a kid. Also had a really good one tho
As a bus driver, I can attest to the fact that this happens a lot.
You should come to my country, Everyone ignores the BUS stop sign & the pedestrian crosswalk
This is infuriating to me. WTH is wrong with people not stopping at bus stops? I would DIE if i ever hit a child..
My home state really, REALLY needs to start passing some tougher laws to make sure drivers get the clear message that they should NOT disregard a stopped school bus’s signs. 🤦🏼♂️
more so kids need to have the patience to wait for all the traffic to pass. its not really the drivers fault. they have places to be and sometimes deadlines so bad they will get fired for not arriving on time(trust me i had a few who almost got fired). if you dont want your kids injured. drive em to school yourself. other than that. you only have yourself to blame
@@jackmagnium6115 yeah i cant imagine waiting 5 seconds for the sign to fold back
@@jackmagnium6115 can’t imagine getting up so late a minute stop burdens you. should you really have the job?
@@jackmagnium6115 not all parents can do that. They also have places to be. And if anything the kids aren’t even in control for when they get off.
@@jackmagnium6115 oh true it’s not the drivers fault for running over and killing innocent children that were just trying to get home from school. For sure.
The buses should be equipped with a retractable spike strip on the side so it can be uses against the offenders.
That would be so badass
@@newbeginning9112 it wouldn’t happen to your car unless you run through a bus stop... are you saying you run through bus stops?
@@calvingonzales1966 vampchick is psychotic and has posted in multiple places that she hates kids and doesn’t mind potentially killing them.
@@monsecookies-u7x So sad and disgusting.
Just mount a 50 cal on the drivers side window so the driver can shoot out the engine block of drivers that dont stop.
Forget fines, make it a night in jail.
Nah make it years
@@ChefSplitwitdaSoul_21 Decades
@@poop-ph1gj a life sentence
@@SOU6900 Death sentence.
(My comment for some reason got deleted. I think Susan found me.)
@Lster S Its a joke, dude. I was going along with the line of people saying what kind of sentence she should get. Obviously she shouldn't get a death sentence.
That camera idea is a pretty good idea but instead of a letter but an actual ticket should be sent.
Do people SERIOUSLY not understand how dangerous what they're doing is?! DID PEOPLE SERIOUSLY ONLY TAKE ACTION AFTER THOSE 3 KIDS WERE KILLED FOR SOMEONE'S STUPIDITY?!
When did parents stop teaching their kids not to look both ways before crossing the street?
They were probably like : my time is more important than this
@@shekelman9336 i agree with that since i live in indonesia, you just had to assume there are some people that are driving wrecklessly and as a student you just have to be really carefull, but even so children are children so its up to the adults to do the right thing
@@nandafaiqfadhlurrahman2144 you can’t always assume that bcuz even if you run these crazy mfs going 80 on the road can still hit you
@@shekelman9336 So don’t stop at stop signs? And also you can’t look both ways until you exit the bus
Watching three of your children being killed at once. I dont even have any and the thought of that makes me tear up
her fault for sending her kids to public school and not caring enough to home school them smh
@@bryanjk It's not surprising I find stupid people every once in a while.
Instead of points on their license. Give them 6 months in jail and a felony.
@@JETS5 6 millennia sound good
A friendly first time pass could be a very first fatality.
Now these people are mouthbreathing in a grocery store near you. The rules do not apply to them.
Or people who dont wanna comply with a cops orders then gets shot and killed cause of stupid decisions. Right? Lol
@@mushroom13cfh riiiiight. Because noncompliance to a state agent should be grounds for execution. Oooookkkkkk
@@rustyshackelford8689 i guess lol
@@rustyshackelford8689 all you gotta do is comply then when proven innocent you sue for wrongful imprisonment. We have the court system for a reason. Now ya there has to be improvements its been a joke for a long time but creating more laws certainly doesnt help when your crying for them to enforce some laws but not all
@Ranger SHIBAcoin Shib ELITE son is high risk. Get bent, loser.
"I'm not in favour of camera's everywhere" said the guy, Unless it favours him and his no doubt. Camera's are never going to hurt those who obey the law, in fact they can help you, but fast moving cars will seriously hurt your children if they hit them.
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Did you just chose to ignore the rest of his statement or what🤡
@@thenewdislikebutton It's called "saving face", don't believe everything you see on a screen kid
@@thenewdislikebutton The rest of his statement kind of contradicted himself, didn’t it? First he says he’s against cameras and giving tickets, but then says something needs to be done. What else can they do besides hand out tickets?
@@thenewdislikebutton you're the real clown
I live in Florida and I’ve seen this happen way too many times I’d be absolutely terrified to drive by a stopped school bus and causing an innocent child any type of harm. I don’t understand why people think this is okay or why they don’t enforce this even more during the learning of getting your license.
Because people are idiots
Exactly. Then what are they going to say after running a sign and striking a child? "Oh, my bad. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to mow down your kids."
Unfreakingbelievable.. SMH.
@@notmebutyou8350 It shows how egotistical and uncaring these kinds of drivers are when it comes to showing no remorse or regard for kids crossing.
They should lose their license for a period of time
She’s a miracle ! That boy would of been hurt and she saved his life by watching the rear view mirrors and grabbing him
That driver who hit those kids deserves to be in prison serving 3 consecutive life sentences. Maybe possibility for parole after serving 35years
In my town most of the school bus drivers pull into the middle of the street in a way that completely blocked people from passing them at all
If you are busted for ignoring a school bus stop sign it should be a mandatory year in jail. Nothing less. That’s pro-life.
That’s why I look both ways even if the stop thing is out
As a student I'd watch just how often this happened even with recordings outside the bus no one can be held accountable unless a cop is there. Id be cussing people out the bus as my driver would always use the bus horn whenever people would pass it infuriated us
My bus driver dealt with this so often she called the cops and had one every morning waiting at my bus stop to catch people that wouldn’t stop. Cop wrote a ton of tickets that year!
He must've gotten a huge bonus 🤣🤣
citations but yeah
They should give them $100,000 tickets tbh
ok lets vote to equip school buses with spike strips lol
This would all be fixed if the stop sign was 5x bigger, you’d literally have to drive through the stop sign. Or you could have those things they have for train crossroads. Also the bus drivers should have an air/train horn. Never understood why tow trucks and roadside assistance use flashing sirens but busses use blinking lights. If anything school buses should be more obnoxious than police, fire, and ems. They have red and blue to get attention, so should stopped school buses.
More obnoxious, well said
these are great ideas, tho I believe it should just be a given when you see a school bus there is the understanding that it will stop and when it does you should also stop. If a driver can’t tell what a bus is from a few glances, something that looks so unique compared to other vehicles, or they don’t know the rules for driving on the road with school buses then they probably shouldn’t be driving period 😅 but the road signs are great, my city has some for drivers coming from the opposite way of the bus stop and I’ve watched them stop accidents
@@Riskwarrior Yes but with these new self driving cars and drivers becoming more and more distracted something needs to change. You could argue that the kids should look both ways but end of the day there should be something that gets even the distracted drivers attention. Even a school bell on top would be better than what bus drivers currently have to get peoples attention.
Help the distracted drivers? Really dude? 😐 Anyone who has a license should know that you must yield near any school bus.
@@justabloke7222 so why do emergency vehicles have such bright lights and loud sounds? You can’t pay attention to everything at once, but the safety of these kids should be every drivers priority and we should do everything we can to alert them when a bus is full of kids. I wouldn’t mind if we had to pull over to the side like emergency vehicles to let them pass. I mean they’re not even wearing seat belts.. why is the life of one person going to the hospital or someone’s speeding ticket more important than the lives of 40+ kids?
This happens all the time in my neighborhood. My mom started dressing in those neon things cops wear, and she also called some cops to monitor my stop, since my stop was probably the most dangerous out of all of the bus stops. God bless the police officers who helped me out, I'll never forget!
Every state needs these cameras. People complain about their rights but if it were there kid or family different story
What about the times where they walking home or to the bus stop and they cross a road without looking? We need a camera there too? Education is the best way to fix the problem or neutralize the immediate danger. You can’t put up a camera everywhere. I mean seriously what is a camera gonna do besides capture the moment? Ya ain’t gonna see that ticket for a week or two and most would already forget that it even happened.
@@billyblanton8042 if someone crossed the road without looking and jaywalked that’s a completely different situation than not stopping at the bus’ stop lights. Yes everyone should look before crossing the road but what people are doing here is illegal and they should be held accountable with sole responsibility the same way as when a car runs through a red light and almost crashes into someone who went because of their green light.
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public. People record dash cam videos all the time. This would be no different.
This problem wont stop by telling people to be better. You can tell a person up and down what could happen when they illegally pass a bus, but they wont care if there aren't any reproductions. The cameras would only harm the driver if they were doxed and their address is leaked. TBH, this info would only be between schools and the cops. I feel this is only a problem for people who are dumb enough to illegaly pass busses. This is one of the first thing taught in drivers ED. There is no reasonable reason to be passing a giant yellow bus with a Stop sign protruding purposely for all to see. Not to mention the flashing lights and small humans scrambling aboard.
@Sky L you cant fix stupidity, the justice system is a joke as well which contributes.
@@billyblanton8042 you are disgusting.
Parents with AR15 standing guard. End of subject.