What DOORDASH doesn't want you to know (Uber Eats and Grubhub too); you HAVE to know this
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- #Gigeconomy #money #futureofwork #entrepreneurship
I know a lot of you are going to hate this video, and maybe even hate me for making it, but you need to know so you can prepare: Doordash, Uber Eats, and Grubhub/Just Eat are laying the groundwork for a future without delivery drivers. Pay is going to decrease until you're no longer needed at all. They are using you.
The good news is there's still some time to take advantage of them. What you do now will launch you into a post-delivery driver era. And, if you're a delivery driver, you're already an entrepreneur. You have the mentality and all the tools you need to take advantage of this situation and turn it around in your favor.
In this video, I break down the trajectory these apps are taking, and the second half of the video is dedicated to what you can do about it.
00:00 Intro
00:50 A shifting focus
01:57 "Tricking" drivers
03:21 Phases affecting all new markets
05:40 Algorithms-how they change
08:50 Why ALL delivery jobs may disappear
11:07 New tech tech does this by design
13:24 What can you do about it (my story)
15:00 What's your passion?
19:08 Whatever you do, do NOT depend on delivery
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I agree with you. These gigs can't last forever and we have to work them, plan for the future and save as much as possible. I can see the robot delivery working in major cities where people live all on top of each other but, in the burbs, NO. In the hood, No. A robot or a drone would never survive a delivery in Gary Indiana or the West side of Chicago. LoL 😆 just thinking about it.
@@chrystallee5528 I do know what you mean, and the safety issue is a concern for the companies making these vehicles. It probably won’t stave off every incident, but they have cameras to see every angle, gps, and the ability to talk to people from a control center if the vehicles are being tampered with-that also means they can send police. They also travel as fast as fullspeed cars, so someone would have to catch them
As for the burbs-I did the math elsewhere in the comments, but it comes out to at least $500k savings per full sized vehicle over the course of its lifetime, and it could be a lot more depending on decisions delivery apps make. It is speculation, but I believe that will make autonomous vehicles worth having just about everywhere DD currently has a market. The smaller markets will be the last to get them, but I think they’ll be nearly ubiquitous with delivery and taxis in the not too distant future
I’m 42. No company I’ve ever worked for care about their employees. Only difference is I make more money and have more freedom with this job.
That’s true, jobs are jobs, and companies are all about making a profit. There is a difference though: this company is increasingly and actively working to make your job obsolete. I’ve worked in and for a lot of a different companies, THAT is rare. And, no one has ever done it on the scale that these apps will. Most companies don’t even have this on the radar. I once took 3 hours to write a script that automated my OWN job. It was incredibly easy, and when they eventually found out and fired me, you can tell it had never even crossed their minds-at one of the biggest website providers in the world.
Money is great! For now…are you using that money prepare for a future when it isn’t?
@@callmelil I agree 1 day there will be autonomous vehicles and robots but far away from now. At worst we would be employed through them but still as a subcontractor. Once you force the deliveries mass amount of people quit and the company goes down. Especially with gas prices and cost of living. I can’t afford to put away. Like most I live check to check or payout to payout.
@@callmelil I do have labor skills to fall back on if this collapses or something else. Just don’t see it. If anything I see it expanding to more stuff.
@@callmelil I could be wrong tho
@@Therealtrollking I’m sorry to tell you that 1 day is today. These are cleared for launch in Santa Monica: techcrunch.com/2021/12/16/motional-and-uber-partner-to-launch-autonomous-delivery-pilot-in-santa-monica-in-2022/amp/
These are already being used in Houston: www.nuro.ai/
These are already being used in London: www.starship.xyz/
They are already here. The question is how widespread will they be in a decade
Been doing Uber Eats with Walmart grocery orders for two years and love it. I work thirty hours a week and make $700-$1000+ (small town). I'm getting my Real Estate license and buying up land that will be developed in 5-10 years. Also looking at buying my first small multifamily property. We are definitely blessed in the US and skys the limit in this country. Great video, subscribed.
Dude, you’re killing it! Way to go looking out for your future. Good luck with the property, that’s something I’m thinking about getting into
Where the heck u live to buy multiple lands?
@@olympic-ass-eater first of all, best username on UA-cam.
Obviously not the person you asked, but in the East coast and south, you can often buy undeveloped plots of land-even near cities-for $3k - $25k. Where I lived in Oregon, you won’t find anything for less than $100k, but my wife and I have been keeping close watch on South Carolina, Florida and Texas
@@olympic-ass-eater I'm in Mojave County AZ. Golden Valley or Kingman AZ one acre lots for $3,000 to $5,000. With water and electricity around $15,000 to $20,000. Forty acres off grid living around $25,000. Kingman AZ and Golden Valley are growing. New homes being built everywhere.
@@callmelil thanks and good luck in your future endeavors as well!
Wow, you are an amazing young man! I am impressed that you put your children as top priority. I am thankful that you are reaching out to entrepreneurs to give us insight and/or just things to think about for our future.
You are gifted and it's kind of you to share your knowledge for free.
Thank you! I really appreciate the love.
The key is to do doordash and work like crazy for 2-3 years to stack your money and put that into your passion. Don’t look to dash 30 years lol.
Most don’t feel that those days of 30 years and a gold watch will ever come again. Do any of you?
@@brianbeecher3084 doorDash and Uber eats are doing amazing right now. I think people just live in horrible markets or they don’t know how to dash at the right times. $100 a day is $36,500 a year. $50 in the morning $50 at night is so easy doing DoorDash. Average person in America
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In my experience DD values drivers who accept majority of the orders. Meaning they're more lenient and less likely to deactivate your account if they see your account as valuable to their bottom line (fulfilling as many orders as possible in your market regardless of how low the offers are to increase their profits). I did DD solely for 3 years (2018 to 2021) straight. I've learned how the system works over those 3 years and completed thousands of orders. I still dash today but i also multi-app and see the pay go down. An exit plan from these gig apps will be necessary in the next few years.
You are absolutely right my friend, excellent video ...all this is already happening just like they replaced most cashiers in most supermarkets and pharmacies, remember it wasn't to long ago where there were no self check outs
There's a lot of money in these abrupt changes-we will continue to live increasingly automated lives
Crazy bro I just found your page! I do doordash in the evenings because it saves my mental energy as opposed to working a menial job stuck in the motions. I watched your video to the end and it blew my mind how you mentioned massage therapy. I got massage certified and was out of work for awhile during the pandemic, which lead me to doordash. Now! I am building back up my massage game and using eBay and doordash to supplement it.
Amazing video, love the passion and optimism. So many people complain about their situation and I completely agree people in the US have WAY more resources to make things happen... Especially if you know how to use the glowing rectangle in your hand.
Thanks again 🥳
Thanks for the comment man. I’m glad the massage therapy rang true for you-it was just the first thing that popped into my head. Reality is, you can build ANYTHING as long you’re passionate about it. Use delivery/money as a tool and build everyday!
Wow what a trip Mike. I am also a massage therapist that is taking time off from it and doing DD and UE. Glad to hear you’re jumping back in it!
I have tried to explain the basis of the things I found in this video to my friends prior to finding this video. They are “loyal” to whichever apps they chose first.
It’s refreshing to see someone focused on the efficiency and numbers rather than loyalty and servitude to app that will never “care” back. The point is to monetize one’s life not to be a cheerleader for corporate leaches.
Keep it up 💯
Thank you! I can’t tell you how many people I’ve had come up to me with their Doordash bag while I’m holding one that says Grubhub. They’ll say something like, “you know Grubhub is one of the worst companies out there? They have a horrible BBB rating and treat their workers horribly.” Like, ok bro I’m actually on an Uber Eats right now, but whatever you say.
Corporate loyalty is the weirdest mind trick these guys have ever played
Exactly if you are loyal you'll be the one to complain about making less and no good orders unfortunately uber won't let me on but you bet I'm on the other 2 dominant apps being gh after a 7 month wait and ic a 5 week wait my market gets so many new drivers there's a wait list for dd if I was loyal to just dd I'd be in trouble gh had been hitting on lunch lately and Glas I have options turn them all on most people don't understand this
hahahaha this is refreshing. I uber with a doordash bag and feel this feedback alot. I noticed that in my suburb there are less UBEREATS drivers and therefore a ton of orders. I run into UberEats drivers only once in a blue moon and because of that, and my busy screen, I know we are getting our fill.@@callmelil Also, I noticed the heatmap keeps you where you're needed but not always where you will profit. Thanks for the thoughtful reply! Cheers!
@@budsodastoriesthat I am guilty of. Semi-retired and just do DD because the one app is enough to keep me busy. Usually work 20-30 hours weekly in winter, 30-40 in summer.
@@callmelilthere was a time, during the quarter century or so following WWII when said loyalty was a two way street that worked the majority of the time. That began to unravel following the oil shocks of 1973 and accelerated when Reagan became President. In many ways middle class has never really recovered.
You had my attention the entire video, I made sure to like and subscribe. Please keep posting more videos because this video was extremely helpful and relatable as a 20 y/o who doordashes primarily for their income. UA-cam can pay a lot of money too so this would be a great hobby to make money from. Looking forward to the next one!
Thank you! Yes, I am back to doing photos/videos fulltime, and I promised myself I'd really give UA-cam a proper go, so hopefully you'll be seeing more of me. Not always DD, but entrepreneurship, travel, and geopolitics as well. Thanks for the support! Let me know if you have any questions about DD or the gig economy, and think really hard about how you can begin diversifying
This man speaks my language. Most people have no true drive to be a true entrepreneur. They are content to work for less pay then to take a risk and do something of their own.
It’s a tough world out there, and the ONLY way you can safeguard your future is by taking ownership. I’ve watched too many people get burned by “safe” careers-my dad included. It won’t happen to me.
Some folks want to be an entrepreneur and have the drive but just don't have the needed tools or resources to do so. So they play it safe and stay at a steady job that allows them to take care of their responsibilities for the time being. They may take the long road to entrepreneurship but it's not always an overnight experience for all.
@@tahkeem_tha_dream3585 What "tools" and "resources" do they need in your opinion?
@@callmelil Loans, basic information, logistics etc...
Don't knock the non-entrepreneurial people ... not everyone is *intrinsically* entrepreneurial--not that they don't have "true drive", but their drive may be in something else other than creating an enterprise. We need both types of people to make the system work.
I sorta lost sight of why I started doing delivery. I wanted a taste of freedom, flexibility, a side hustle to help me leave my 9 to 5, as a temporary stepping stone until I found a job I actually like. Now a year into it, Ive become so dependent on it that I've put myself a little behind, esp this month since it has slowed down. Im appreciate you putting this video up because I definetly felt myself getting sucked into this side hustle w/out a backup instead of just riding the wave as you stated. Food delivery has kinda reached its peak so it's time to make some adjustments and find other ways of making money. Thx for the looking out
Me and your are going thru the same thing. What I'm doing is learning certain skills to make me some money while I deliver and swing into my next venture. Stay strong bro
Glad I could help my man. Any ideas for diversification? Do you have anything else in the works?
@@callmelil I have found a few things I am interested in investing my time but it seems like I have to start from ground zero, taking in very low pay. I want to be financially free, but at the same time I dont want to work a high paying job that Im not enjoying just to get there. Also I have not figured out my passion yet so there is part of the problem. I just need to invest some time into figuring out my passion and what skills I could build on to help me get there
@@PaulJamalThomas I like that idea. Investing in some kind of skill in the meantime.I recently quit a job after 3 days. Im 31 years old and I dont think Im built to work 10-12 hour days anymore., slaving at some mind-numbing job even if it pays well. Since delivering I want to set a different standard for myself. Idk how but Ill figure something out. Thx
Same for me. I thought all I needed to do was DoorDash that would be OK.. unfortunate circumstances, led me to finding another 9-5. However, I did find the benefit of having a steady paycheck. I knew that was coming from my new found job.. I still DoorDash on my days off or maybe a couple hours after my shift and I like it better that way instead of working all day trying to make that 150 or $200.
I have seen the trend that when I decline several crappy orders in a row, I suddenly have longer 'pause' times. I agree that there has to be a back end system that allows the apps to dispatch based on a preference to the drivers that will take anything.
I'm in a small market. I do 6 to 10 orders per 4 hour shift twice a day. I do 1130 to 2 and 5 to 930. I make from 80 to 150 a day. All cash tips go into savings. I am trying to get into guitar luthiering. Thank you for the advice
Are you mutli-apping? Stacking from multiple apps? Have you seen my $12k video? ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html. It dives into the strategies of maximizing your income.
Good luck with your guitar luthiering! What actions are you taking to head in that direction?
In my small market, there are no options other than DD......Fortunately, I am 4th Generation in this 1 1/2 mile town and every name of the 3 generations above me is held in high regard in this community. (Examples: 1) Barceloux Bros. still hangs on the overhang for Napa Auto Parts as my grandmothers cousins, 2 brothers, own the bldg. 2) C.F. Koehnen & Sons has been in business since 1907- one of the largest bee keeping & nut hulling companies in the area 3) Millar Farms: my great-grandfather started the business name, my uncle, his namesake, is the most current owner of that business. These type of well established businesses in my rural agricultural community/county is a benefit to my willingness to do deliveries for DD along with personal hire for delivery, along with my vehicle being a pickup, which is for hire for moving/towing/transport needs. I have a transport a 55" TV for $90 pymt. coming up soon. 20 mile round trip drive. No big heavy lifting, just attaching strap-downs, drive, & unattach strap-downs for my effort. I think I'm good on not having to depend fully on DD, especially with this WOMAN being disabled and on SSI/SSD at 47 yrs. old.
Absolutely agree with the concept of this video, everyone should prepare for life without gig apps. One bottleneck these companies may need to calculate is the cost of operating a driverless service. Some driver's are still accepting $2.25 deliveries. Is the cost of depresiation less than $2.25 an order?
And here in Michigan, fast food starts between $14-$17/hr for an entry level position. For a lot of driver's, that's probably more than they're earning after deducting vehicle wear-and-tear.
You have to note that the tax deduction you get for miles driven is way higher than actual depreciation of your car and gas combined…unless you’re driving a Lamborghini or something.
The answer to your question about $2.25 orders is “probably yes.” First of all, I have done 12,000 deliveries in about 60k miles. That also includes miles looking for orders, which wouldn’t apply to autonomous vehicles-they’d probably drive fewer miles per order
Tesla’s cars are rated for a million miles, with batteries that last around 500k, and the cheapest one is already only $35k. Quick maths would have you believe it could handle around 200k deliveries = $450k at $2.25/order. They may not have the same longevity and there are other expenses to consider, but there are also different types of autonomous vehicles-take a look at the difference between Starship, Nuro, and Motional’s vehicles.
I personally believe the cost will come down a lot. Maybe Motional’s will be $25k, Nuro’s $15-20k, and Starship’s just a few grand. Not to mention, that that means I average about 5 miles/order. Those $2.25 orders are mostly closer than that. Also note that even if people accept $2.25 orders, they’d be quickly pushed out of business if they ONLY had $2.25 orders.
I know I'm late to this video as I have just started doing doordash again. I am one that will very sparingly take those $2.25 up to like $4.25 orders if A) it is a restaurant I'm sure will have the order ready when or within 60 seconds of arrival (McD for instance), B) delivery distance and pickup is less than 1.5 miles and C) it keeps me in what I know is a Hotspot area. I did 1 hour doing just those deliveries one day to see how I'd do and I hit 10 deliveries in 1 hour netting me close to $35 for the hour and totalled just 13 miles driven.
For me wear and tear is equal to what i would be taxed.
Great video! Impactful, researched perspective. These gig apps, all of them, are temporary. Sharing this video on my community tab! 💛
Thank you!
@@callmelil would love to have you as a guest on my channel. My email is in the description box of all of my videos if you are interested.
@@JENontheGO sorry for the late response, I’ve been in the mountains all day-no service. Definitely! I’ll snag your email address once I’ve finished replying to comments tonight
@@callmelil great! I will look forward to it! 💛
@@callmelil I just responded back to your email! Thx so much!
Another great presentation! High integrity and definite sincerity. Thank you!!
Direct and to the point with all the fat cut out. Great video
Thank you!
New subscriber 😊 I'm a door dasher and doing it part time. I want to have my own business one day. You opened my eyes to many possibilities. Great video 😊
Thanks for your kind words! Work on it, and you will have your own business. Any ideas?
"entrepreneur by mentality" - never heard it before, but yes. absolutely yes.
So glad I watch the entire video. Love the positive energy and truthfulness you got another sub
Thank you, I appreciate you! Hope I don’t let you down in future videos, New one is out tomorrow
I just signed up to be a driver yesterday and have been watching tons of videos on it. Love the videos you have made that I have watched so far. Haven’t started yet, still waiting on the background check to clear. Heard it take 24-48 hours and then another 3-7 days after that. What advice do you have for a brand new starting dasher. These videos are so informative.
Hey John, so sorry I missed this comment before! And thank you for your kind words. First thing I would say is get on multiple apps. Doesn't matter what market you're in, you will benefit from having more options to choose from. Sign up for Doordash, Uber Eats, and Grubhub. Don't listen to any of these brand-loyal fanboys..they are super weird. Check and see if there are any other apps in your local market, and give them a try-even if you delete them later.
Second, know where the traffic is going to be, and avoid it like the plague.
Third, keep a rolling blacklist of restaurants that keep you waiting, are rude, or lie to you about how long an order is going to take. I have an FAQ video that goes into more detail about my entire process (ua-cam.com/video/21ZzW-GrQPQ/v-deo.html), but those are for sure the biggest ones for beginners
Lol I’m absolutely shocked when people don’t multi app. Even then they clearly change all the time. When I first started doing Uber I got these great quests all the time. Then they started making the number of trips an payout less. Eventually when I was hitting all this quests they completely took them away. I recently did hear someone say eventually all these apps would combine together. I was burned out and wanted a 9-5, but the one I wanted required me to finish my degree which I’m almost done, but that was a big wake up call for me that I couldn’t hustle my way thru on these apps. I also increased my streams of income because being at the mercy of these apps is scary especially if they all consolidate.
"at the mercy of these apps" should scare everyone. Take ownership in something, so you can take control of your future! I also don't understand people who don't multi-app. I mean, stacking from multiple apps is hard, but you can multi-app without doing that and still add 25%+ to your income. Give yourself an easy raise!
@@callmelil tbh, I'd rather be at the mercy of multiple companies, versus a single company where some really angry jerk boss works you to the bone and doesn't appreciate anything you do. That one boss can get rid of you the same as these apps...I worked in retail for 20 years...I think I'd rather die then go back
@@callmelilbut the apps have really cracked down on multi-aping and cherry-picking. DD raised its minimum completion rate twice in addition to contract violations for late arrivals, which I disagree with because the vast majority of the time it is due to something that’s beyond the dasher’s control.
Im blown away!!! Watched the whole video. I'm hooked!!!! Thank you for sharing
Thank you! I appreciate the love :) hope you’re week is going well
Very enlightening video. Thank you!
You're welcome, thank you for stopping by!
I've watched as Grub Hub has came back in my area. Mainly due to Door Dash shitty pay causing very very long food wait times.
Waitr is getting bigger and bigger here too. Door dash has a fight on their hand and rightfully so.
They are very very scammy. Hiding tips, stealing tips, lying about pay and distance ECT. The next couple weeks I am focusing on Waitr. Pay per order is better hands down. Customers nicer and orders are larger.
Unfortunately, Waitr doesn't exist in my market, but I wish you the best! Try anything and everything until you see what works for you
Platinum Video man. My mental health was off the charts! I'd find myself In an angry mood or constantly arguing with Employees
I’m sorry to hear that man. The job can be seriously taxing. Any tips you’ve picked up for keeping your head together?
@@callmelil Don't go hard all the time. Alot of people are putting the 80 hours of week to build the excuse of building your empire of cash flow. People have to rest to replenish their flow. With this job it's constant caution and encounters with everyone if your going 8-10 hours. Like GTA5
@@TheLastSaint7 Great advice, thank you!
Honestly one of the most seemingly genuine people on UA-cam I’ve come across. Thanks for the video, just subscribed my friend 🤝
Thank you so much! Honestly one of the best compliments I’ve received
Having total freedom over my work schedule is a big plus. The downside is fuel costs are going to increase. The wear and tear on your vehicle.
Of course, those are downsides, but if you’re doing your tax deductions right, you should AT LEAST negate those costs. Most fulltimers probably knock more than the entire cost of their car and gas combined off their taxes every year-you can further mitigate those costs by driving an old hybrid like my 2005 Prius
You’re right. When I first started doing gig work, I started off with Shipt. Between Shipt and Veryable, I was making over $60k a year. Then I got deactivated from Shipt. So I started doing Doordash, Uber eats, and Veryable. I was making about the same but I noticed when my acceptance rate got low, it went from $20-$25 an hour as advertised to $10 an hour. After 1000 deliveries, it wasn’t worth it. Like you said, the algorithm and acceptance rate combined with an over saturated market pays you poorly. Doordash and similar companies are temp gigs(1-2 years).
Thank you for this great invaluable information and God bless you and your family
Thank you! God bless you and happy New Year!
I’m glad i watch this video to the end because. I always had the mindset like this
Loving your videos lil, I’ve been dashing for the past few months while trading stocks and also building a couple other business. Amazing how us likeminded entrepreneurs often end up on a similar path.
Amazing! I’m not a stock trader, but any time you can devote to educating yourself is time well spent. What are your other businesses?
Stock trader here too!!! 💰💰💰
@@biy5385 Let's go! you trade OTC's ? check out my lastest vid too
There's a bunch of us, lol...Base hits and discipline all day long.
Great video that’s exactly why I do the food delivery apps to fund my business. Thank you for your tips
Great to hear man, thanks for stopping by! What’s your business? What are you working on?
I got your email, I will put you on the list!
@@callmelil thanks
@@callmelil I help people get into homes/get approved for loans by helping them improve their credit
@@supercarlos03 Serious question along those lines: Many of us who do deliver have AGI's that are not really representative of what we can afford (largely because of the mileage deduction). What's your recommendation for those of us in that situation who want to get a mortgage?
Abrupt ending! 💯🤜💥🤛 You're my peeps too man! Thank you genuinely for this information 🙂👍🏼
Of course! A couple people have pointed that out…I didn’t mean to end it like that, but what I said right after just didn’t make sense as a closing point 😆
Thank you for the video.. Great job!
Thank you! Appreciate the love
I agree ☝️…. I’m driving for all 3, Uber eats, door dash, and grub hub… I also own my own recording studio and video production company with multiple streams of income in other things. I’m working towards stacking my paper to invest in several things. Great video
I agree with most of what you said, I do believe that DoorDash and Uber will change from an employment app to an investment app. They will pass the cost of operation and maintenance of their robots to investors, we will be the ones purchasing them and will receive a small percent of the orders they take. Uber has already started allowing people to rent their cars to drivers.
@Lil..... EXCELLENT video, super informative and SPOT on with what's coming....BTW hella of a work out. Cheers
As a younger man, I used to _run_ these trails for HOURS! 10 miles a day or so. Can't even believe I got so winded walking them...I have some work to do! 😂
@@callmelil ... 😅
I'm a massage therapist, and do IC and DD on the side. Great video, you remind me of my nephew 💙
You're telling the truth. They've staked 3 orders that ame out as a single delivery in the last 24 hours on me. Recently, any orders i get that's over $10.00 in pay has always came with an egg. Direct dash is now going through a maintenance issue now. I don't even know how much is in my account.
Lots more problems to come, my man. Hope you’re well and preparing for the future!
@@callmelil Thanks to January, I've adapted to my schedule. I parked at McDonalds and took ALL orders over $3.00 and within 2 miles. Saved on gas, so the profit was definately up. Doing it again today because my pay went up 200% from yesterday.
you are awesome. thank you!
Thank you! I appreciate the love
DD isn’t the only thing in my 10 year plan, but wow this is a wake up call. Thanks man
Of course! Thank you for stopping by. What else do you have in your ten year plan?
This video was definitely for me! You are very passionate about entrepreneurship and so am I. I get what your saying and thank you for the encouragement. I’m working usually about 13-14 hours a day and I’m only making about 260 a day on avg. My goal is 300-350 in 10 hours. I’m currently using too much ch of my time and what I’m really passionate about which is dance, Kung fu and now investing in stocks, crypto and real estate leave less time because I’m so tired when I get home after 14!hours of straight work. I watched your other video on how you made 12,000 but I haven’t even come close
Dude, that’s badass. What kind of dance? I hope you’re using your dash time to educate yourself on stocks and real estate.
Tell me, are you multi-apping and stacking? What kind of car do you drive?
Call me lil I dance hip hop. A lifer in the game. Been out for a few years because of an injury to my hip. Had surgery last January and this January made my 1 year recovery. Not 100% yet but so close. Very motivated to get back out and it’s time to take action. I have been educating myself on crypto, some stocks and want to put money in whole life insurance to borrow against it as well get the passive income like with REITs and other dividend yielding stocks. I drive a 2010 bmw
@@LooseJointhiphopdance I just watched a couple of your older dance videos, man. Those are dope. Good luck on the recovery! What app(s) are you using? Are you multi-apping?
@@LooseJointhiphopdance I know the videos are old. You going to be putting any new ones out?
Call me lil Yes, definitely stepping back out there. I’m going to be working on content very soon. Just building up my body and working on my flexibility because my posts will involve Dance and some post Kung Fu. Just getting in shape a little better shape before starting to share my journey. Been through a lot.
did lyft since 2015 to 2019 things where great at first making a lot of money easy and fast until lyft along with uber started blowing up around 2019 the pay and work drastically dropped and i would get punished for not accepting short low pay rides the more drivers the joined the lower the pay rate decreased as well as rides
What's your market, if you don't mind my asking?
You are absolutely the best. Thank you 😊
I hope it helps, thanks for the love!
Great advice. Thanks for the video! Gig working is liberating for some, soul crushing for others.........
What I hope I’ve shown is that it can actually be both for the same person. It comes with pros and cons, but is important to see it as a tool-a means to a different end. Even the “liberation” won’t last forever-is a ticking clock
Damn. What a good video. I haven't felt this motivated in a loooong time. Look forward to future videos.
Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback! I recently made a decision to really go for it with UA-cam, so I will be publishing regularly
Your passion is contagious
Thank you!
I just subscribed, I need to hear more from you👌🏽
Thank you!
I fill up my tank before I start each night. I usually add around $60. I can make anywhere from $225-400 (with no bonuses) per day, running 8hrs-10hrs.
I will say one thing: food delivery is better per mile, but driving people is better per hour. It's a hard mix to master, but you have to know when to NOT drive people and when to NOT deliver food. If you're doing a lot of $3 deliveries, you're gonna make $12-15/hr if they don't tip. with tips, you can make up to $27-30/hr. With driving people, LONG trips will net you a lot more. Driving someone 20miles at $0.13/minute for $0.60/mile is gonna net you alot more than driving two or three people 4 miles (which will net you like $4/trip).
The short trips means no one is in your vehicle, as you're driving 4 mins to get to someone (for free) to drive them for 10mins. That's 14-16mins per person - which means you can do this about 4 times per hour. If you're getting $4/trip for those trips, you're getting $16/hr - and if they each tipped you $5, then you're getting $36/hr.
That's the difference: making sure you wanna do food (and average around $2-3 per mile of driving, or if you wanna do people and try to maximize TIPS to fill up the time spent that hour driving TO people (where you're not paid a dime).
I do both, as I do cancel rides/deliveries that don't fit a profitable scheme. I've declined 120min trips (to another city down south) because I have no ride back. That's two hours of driving THERE - which is good, but then two hours driving BACK...unpaid, on my own fuel. I've done that before and it was a bad deal.
The best deals for me is food delivery where you snag two deliveries at one restaurant (pays anywhere from $7 to $24) and then get tips on that. I've literally made $65/hr doing delivery, but I've also made over $100/hr doing people. That's rare, but it happens a lot when doing events and people feel good to be picked up. They tip $25-30 without blinking. I've been tipped $80 for a ten-minute ride and I've been tipped $200 for a 20-min ride. Happens, but not something you can count on. Takes a special passenger to appreciate you to that degree.
But FOOD DELIVERY is for the person that wants to use LESS FUEL, even tho you may not make that much per hour. But you'll run a full day and still have a quarter tank of fuel left after you clock expires, where driving people will run you til the gas light comes on, and you'll have the same amount of money if the tips aren't coming thru for driving people.
Sorry it's so long, but this is for people who are STRATEGIZING and not just turning a key in the ignition, thinking of getting a lot of money. Takes some plotting, so plot well and be safe out there!
Thanks for all the info. Rideshares suck in my market. Most of the customers are just people who've had their licenses taken away for one reason or another, so very few tips at all.
But I'd encourage anyone to try any app they can. Experiment, see what works best for you! It takes a bit of time, but it's worth actually finding out, so you can capitalize on what works best for the foreseeable future.
@@callmelil in Phoenix and surrounding areas, we have a zero-tolerance drinking law. Not even ONE beer, so everyone at bars or restaurants use rideshare so they don't get a DUI for having a glass of wine. Sucks, as they even use prescription medications as reason for DUI.
That's how our market works. And with UberEats, it's litrrally the same. Have a beer at home in the garage watching the game? You're calling Eats to go to 711, or either taking an Uber there and back.
I get those rides q lot, for cigarettes or for a bag of chips and a soda for the kids...because no one wants a DUI for $15,000.
Thanks, I appreciate this.
@@nahfrfrtho All good brotha. Let's keep helping each other come up with ways to be successful at this. It's not easy, or else everyone would be doing it. We gotta MAKE it successful by pushing thru the hard periods.
Great info. What car are you driving. I'm thinkg of jumping in on the passenger rides and looking for a car also. Mine was totaled
I’m just trying to get into e-commerce, I recently just bought a $1000 civic so I could save gas and beat up with DoorDash, but right now I’m literally not making shit which takes a toll on my mental because I personally hate working a regular w2 job and I’m only 20 years young
The problem is everyone and their mother is doing it.... when you have more people doing these than restaurant workers then there is a problem
What’s your market/area? Try and sign up for uber eats
I'm not going to pretend to be able to solve your problem, but where are you located? What app(s) are you running? What's your e-commerce business?
@@leadnsteel1428 yup, I even see a lot of old people doing this job now. That's when you know it's over. There is too much saturation in this gig work. The gold rush is over, this isn't 2020 anymore.
@@KingDayDayDay00 pandemic delivery was good 😎😎
I agree 100% about these companies not caring about the drivers and only concerned about a profit. Of course the drivers being the biggest expense want to cut costs there and be as efficient as possible. But America is bad at infrastructure and it would require major changes to accomodate driverless cars and robots safely and effectively. To the point where I don't think it will be a reality for 75- 100 years. What I say is once another country gets it down then we should be concerned it might get here in 20 years from then which is about how much we lag.
The funny thing is I believe the fact that America has such poor infrastructure is the _reason_ we will have driverless cars sooner than elsewhere in the world. I have traveled all over the world, and the fact is our roads are top notch compared to what's out there, even in other parts of the developed world. Everywhere except maybe Scandinavia and Germany, but Scandinavia isn’t very dense, and the majority of Germans are reluctant to accept tech like this (they don’t even really use credit cards yet).
But our population sparcity and our dependence on cars, make building things like trains very difficult and inefficient. If we had better rail systems, there probably wouldn't be nearly the same demand for self driving cars as people aren't really having to deal with the negative affects of cars in the first place. Not even going far into it, I have done this job in London and Berlin (I live in London now). There is way more money to be made in America. Consequently, there is way more money to be saved by automating as much and as quickly as possible. Don’t get me wrong, this will also happen in around the world. European giant, Just Eat (who owns grubhub) is working with the same company that Doordash is working with to make this reality. Delivery robots already exist in my city (London) and are gaining ground
Even if you don’t buy that explanation, driverless cars are already being rolled out in some markets. Uber Eats is rolling out early this year, Lyft is rolling out next year, Doordash has already rolled out delivery robots, and is working on their own driverless cars. Even dominoes has its own fleets in some markets. Uber had said self driving cars are “key to their profitability.” Their main hurdles at this point are regulatory and we are, by nature, a risk-taking bunch of people. IMO, it is only a matter of (a small amount of) time.
While fun to speculate, that isn't the main point of this video. I do want to re-iterate to people that regardless of your thoughts on self-driving cars, wages from these apps will go down over time, and it's up to us to plan and prepare for the future.
People don't pay to have food show up in front of their house they want it at the door a driverless car can't do that and google maps is wrong a lot!
@@brewdog8568 some apps (Uber Eats) are already using customer’s GPS locations, rather than simply an address. There may be some combination of the two to get to the customer. Support agents in foreign countries also routinely change addresses for us, and they may end up doing the same for these autonomous vehicles. Some of the vehicles (the company that makes doordash’s robots, for example) are small and drive up on the sidewalk, and they all have LiDAR that helps them get around roads and obstacles-maybe even forging their own route to a set of GPS coordinates. Nuro’s machines are a great middle ground between Road-worthy car and tiny robots that go on the sidewalk. Google them if you get the chance
There are issues to work out, but even in their current form, it’s not a stretch to say they could handle 75%+ of all deliveries. Once they start getting widespread regulatory approval, price will go down as production goes up and tech improves.
Deliveries will likely be cheaper, ranges will likely be larger, and for that, I think most people will be willing to walk the extra 20ft to the end of their driveway
@@brewdog8568 did you know your name (Brewdog) is a brand of craft beer in the UK? It's one of my faves, not many (what I'll call) American-style craft beers in Europe, but Brewdog is pretty damn good
@@callmelil I did i have not tried it
Wow I just can't believe how unbelievably smart you are . Thanks for the video
Thanx for the video. Use this job as a stepping stone. Lala 😃
Ttotally, that's all you can do. Good luck!
Great info and thanks for sharing. I recently started DD mid November and recently on Shipt. While the money is good doing this PT and I totally agree this is not a replacement job just a filler to add to the gains we all want to make. My goal is to challenge myself to make $10k this year towards savings. Yeah it may seem small to some but it’s my start 😊
My PASSION is helping people be it with thinking of new and creative ways for there business ventures and cooking. Oh and I’m interested in your photography program too. Thanks lil 😁
Any money you can put in your pocket and invest in your future is massively beneficial. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s too small. I'm also very passionate about cooking-so is my 4 year old daughter, so we do it a lot together :) here’s a video I made with my girly if you care to watch: ua-cam.com/video/gh6TlElgsVI/v-deo.html
The photography platform is called Pic ur photo. If you go to the website now, it does not look like a platform. there is no way to sign up yet, but we are planning a launch for next month. Send an email to hello@picurphoto.com and I will make sure get a launch notification. Make sure you’re subbed, because I’m going to publish a video about how I made $5k in my first month after turning pro photographer and how I make $3k/month selling stock media (both utilizing tech built into Pic ur Photo)
10k is a great savings in this day and time. Between raising a family, keeping up with your health, the cost of living, and being taxed that seems like a reasonable amount of liquid cash to save in a year doing work that doesn't have a concrete set amount yearly income. Having 5 figures in the bank is a great start to giving yourself some cushion room.
No, that's not small most Americans are in Debts moreover to save a 1000
This advice is pure gold. Time is more valuable than money. Working for anyone or wotking in the gig economy is just a losing proposition in the long run. Trust me it will destroy your health.
Amen to that!
how health?
@@lahuntr4217 I’m obviously not the person who wrote it, but it’s very mentally taxing-the up and down. To an extent, you are at the mercy of the algorithm and it can be very frustrating. Not to mention all the points in this video about the decline and eventual disappearance of the job, and the way the apps have “gamified” work. At times, it feels like you’re gambling got your livelihood
Not saying other jobs aren’t like that or that I’m ungrateful, I think we’re all aware of what we signed up for. This video hopefully serves as a reminder that everyone should be working on their exit plan
@@callmelil i agree thanks for making the video. im 19 and this is my only source of income and im racking up 1k a week so far but im scared for my future because i still live with my parents and want to be on my own. I dont "feel" that this could be a long term thing but could last me 1-2 years and then i would move on. I also want to start doing uber driver because I heard it pays nearly double
@@lahuntr4217 Where are you located? Whether Uber is better will depend. Big cities with an international airport, you might be right. In my market, it sucks. There’s very little demand, and the people booking are mostly people who’ve had their licenses taken away for one reason or another. Not to disparage anyone, but those people don’t usually tip.
Not to mention, those people who say you can make double, probably aren’t using the strategies in my $12k month video (in case you haven't seen it: ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html).
There are other downsides to Uber and Lyft:
- You can’t speed or run lights
- You can’t be on your phone clicking orders or planning routes
- You can’t play audiobooks or UA-cam videos to educate yourself (this alone makes it not worth it for me)
- You can’t stack orders from multiple apps
- I used to manage staff in Mexico City from my phone. That’s obviously off the table.
- You have to have a newer/more expensive car
If you already have a car that meets Uber and Lyft's requirements, it's worth giving it a shot. See how it goes.
Great video….listen to this man. I’m 51 and had to retire early from teaching due to a disability in 2016. I’ll never be the same. I won’t teach or do anything for more than 3 hours again. I just started doing DoorDash so I don’t kill my self. It’s going good. I’m actually less sad now. Study hard between deliveries. Train for the jobs writing the codes. One thing from experience……be happy. You get one life. One.
Dashing makes me happy! Get to be a social butterfly n flit around having fun, interacting with people n making good money.
Everything you mention here can be said about almost any job. New technology comes and people get laid off, that's just how life goes. Self checkout at grocery stores, mechanical arms on garbage trucks, mechanics on conveyor belts in warehouses, I could literally go on all day. Most jobs aren't sustainable and people should not simply get a job/career and think they are set for life. People should always have a few streams of income and not rely on one job to take care of them for 30-40 years, for most that is not realistic.
Absolutely. Food delivery will always be around because of technology it may not be profitable to do full time but it will always be around. Food and groceries delivery is the future just like how Amazon is.
Very well said
Yes and no. If you are following along with my 4 points, the first one is about emerging markets. The reason this job pays well is, so far, it has been exploding in popularity with the arrival of new tech. The intense compeition over drivers moves the price way up. Most jobs/industries are already established, and even if they weren't, it's rare for anything to grow so fast, and for a handful of companies all trying to make a mad grab for market dominance (each with virtually unlimited money). These jobs pay well, but your pay is completely at the mercy of a very fast-changing market.
2) algorithms don't really change the efficiency of garbage routes to reduce the number of drivers needed-not in any meaningful way anyway. Can this have some affect on some jobs? Sure, but it would be hard to argue it has a larger affect anywhere other than gig work, especially because it probably won't reduce an hourly worker's wage.
3) Tech definitely affects other jobs and gets rid of some, but I don't think we have ever seen anything on the same scale that we will see when Autonomous vehicles become mass produced. This will affect much more than delivery drivers, of course..but these delivery companies are at the forefront of this tech.
@@callmelil the thing with autonomous vehicles is that some state legislation will allow it at first and some won't, so personally I don't think we'll see a mass layoff all at once. We're also still a long way away from that. Either way my point still stands, job markets are forever changing and that's just the way economics works. Detroit used to be the heart of the work force in America, now its a ghost town and it looks like a bomb went off there. Moral of the story regarding literally ANY job/gig/career, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
My city has temp workers that get into shouting matches at 7-11 and have to turn my can around for the mechanical dump truck arm. Yes, they spill trash everywhere.
Doordash in Houston is lucrative still, even with the low paying orders. I’m renting a Toyota Prius so I kinda still see a profit. I thank you for the information Yu provide for your viewers
I didn't know that you can rent a car and be a Dasher. I thought you had to have your own car.
Just curious, how much are you paying to rent the Prius? How’s business been over there?
@@honeychick4ever280 Doordash really doesn’t care, car rental place doesn’t have to know. When my first dashing car broke down, I rented from Enterprise and at the time, I scoured their terms of service..nothing in there against it. It may have changed since then, but I don’t know
@@callmelil Bro, I’m paying 240 a week and it makes me mad because I can never own the car. I didn’t have to put a down payment on it and I was desperate for a car. Business is good in Houston. Big city
Yeah I heard Door dashing business in Houston is booming. I have family out there. I might go over and visit one day.
I love your videos so glad I found them. They are really different then anything else out there right now in terms of gig app'ing. I also like the story about your Dad. Reminds me of Rouge One and Galen Urso and building the death star.
I honestly have no idea what drives me in my life. Which is probably why I have been suicidal most of my life. I love sports, pro wrestling, stupid shit like adult cartoon shows. No idea how that equates to anything more then the shit existence I live everyday. Floating through life not really doing much of anything.
What is it about existence that makes it shit? Never accomplishing anything or worse? Personally, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with floating through life, not doing much, if that's what you want to do. Everyon'e life is their own to live, and whatever expectations you put on yourself are entirely made up-just like the rest of the world is. IMO, there is beauty in acceptance that a few simple pleasures are all life has to offer. For me, that's time with my kids, walking through forests, and connecting with interesting people. Whatever business I do, anything else I accomplish is essentially to facilitate those 3 things
Even if a region or market has a dominant food delivery company, drivers could still sign-up with competitors. And if orders start coming in more slowly, you can have multiple apps active simultaneously, so that they’re then competing for your time and availability, based on which app offers you an order first. Rideshare drivers have done that during slower driving seasons (particularly between Lyft and Uber), or if one app begins limiting rides offered to a driver.
Yes, that's true, and multi-appers are going to continue to do better than people who stick to one app. But as one app comes to dominate the market, even if there are still competitors, they will be naturally inclined to pay less-they don't have to compete for drivers, and as they gain efficiency, the market for drivers could become oversaturated, even without adding new drivers. The competitors will probably pay more per delivery (to make sure the few orders get fulfilled), but they will also not be able to give you many orders, and in some cases, won't be busy enough to stay in the market-deciding to focus resources elsewhere. This process already took place with Postmates 2 years ago in the market where I recorded my $12k month video: ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html and the same thing is apparently happening to Uber Eats right now.
UE can't compete with DD, drivers don't get orders, drivers stop going online on UE, UE can't fulfill whatever few orders they have, UE will eventually be forced to pull out of the market. DD consolidates that market and depresses wages, because they know they're not competing with UE in any meaningful way.
Is it that simple? Are there exceptions? Yeah, obviously. You could come up with a thousand what if's and driver adaptations, and the competition WILL last longer in big cities, but the trend remains: wages are going down, and will continue to do so.
The same thing will happen with your example between Lyft and Uber. In a big city, the competition will last longer, but ultimately they're carving their territory. Every market will eventually have a dominant player. You may take a Lyft every once in a while, but you depend on Uber. Uber knows that and has no incentive to compete with Lyft on pay. Even if there's a stalemate, while everyone starts multi-apping and both apps become saturated with drivers, where do you think that leaves you? It's all about demand and supply.
@@callmelil true I was using Uber eats and door dash in the city where I live but people here are not using Uber Eats as much anymore so door dash blew up here
What state and city did you make that delivery money? I’m in Riverside California and it’s slow with orders.
This was in Medford, Oregon. I have also dashed in the SF suburbs, and Charleston, SC, which seemed roughly the same.
Are you on multiple apps? Are you stacking?
@@callmelil I was with Post mates until they merged that’s when it slowed down, my phone won’t let upload door dash or grub hub because I have older phone need to buy new phone. So for now it’s just Ubereats and may need to drive out to L.A. County or O.C where it may be busiest. Stack orders are rare since it’s slow .
@@ericgarza3239 What phone are you using? You're only doing UE?
@@callmelil I’m using iPhone 6 and yes just Ubereats because phone don’t have data to upload DD or GH.
That's life. Jobs are jobs. Making money matters. The more you earn and save, the more control you have. They do all kinds of crap.
Good video.
That’s it right there, don’t depend on anything except yourself. Work to get ahead!
Problem is if every company went fully automated and no longer needed human labour we wouldn't be able to afford their products
@@leadnsteel1428 I believe at some point in the near future, we will have to tax companies that use automation to pay for a UBI. That almost made it into this video, but seemed overly political…I do believe that’s how humanity will eventually need to tackle that problem. Hopefully, we will all benefit from this increased efficiency and not just the top 0.1%-i mean, they will need us to benefit if we are to buy their products, like you said. That’s probably a long way off though
Humans can and will out smart technology. War games the movie!
Thank you. These UA-camrs get paid to either way being Debbie downers or being positive. Either way the viewers lose. Stop supporting these clowns.
One of the best videos I have seen. You are correct, AI and tech will lower pay and eventually end people in delivery apps. Have an exit plan ready in case the delivery gigs end.
Please tell me that you are THE David Cross. I wouldn't even be mad about you flipping me off
Thank you for posting this video clip
of course! I hope you got good info out of it!
People should be grateful of the opportunities around right now to make money. When I got out of school there wasn't a job that you could make 100k+ a year for the simple task of delivering food and also willing to giveaway a fullride reimbursement for college. Not even the military in some cases wasn't willing to pay for college.
Totally agree, 100%. I was a web/software devloper when I left highschool and through college and then some. Around 25, I became a photographer. I have never made as much money in either of those professions than I did while delivering-neither in total, nor per hour. If this job was around when I was 18, my life would probably look quite a bit different.
I am very grateful for the opportunity to earn at this level while also working on separate businesses, but I do want to re-iterate, it comes with its own set of challenges. I think it's tempting to think this will be here forever, when I wholeheartedly believe it will not. Be grateful, but also take advantage of the opportunities you get. They may not come back if you don't
@@callmelil The reality is that you only made that money. Cause you damn near killed yourself doing it. Most people's physical can only handle 8 hours a day with 2 days off. I have health challenges where heavy working fatigues me and pulling a 12 hr shift. Is actually a 15/17 hr shift in real time cause ue don't count the going to pick up. So when I'm done, my body is done and I need a day or two to recover. It's been so bad that I decided that I'm no longer gonna try the 5 day shift cause I wind up losing more days than what I work. Miami is terrible w the pay n tips. Yes you can get paid if you do those long hours. But keep in mind that doing those long hours also means refueling. I was spending $800 a month on gas w/4 days of bout 8/10 hours. So I came up with a 3 day schedule working the whole 12 hours. I may take a few hours in between break n continue. But I try to get more than $150. I just started doing the 3 day schedule this week. Today I had to turn in because I kept getting shafted w cancelled orders n then nickel n dime orders plus rain. So I was not gonna continue to waste my gas for nothing. I will start again in a few. Thanks for your great advice, I recommend people buy land n grow their own food.
@@factsmatter1172 personally I couldn't make more than 40k a year at the gig job, and that's only working full day shifts, the most I could possibly make a day delivering food by bicycle is 200 dollars in my area. I have worked from noon to evening and with effort made over 100 consistently but it is a very tiring activity. You need break days just to recover. But this job is perfect for college students. Some apps will even pay for full tuition at an online university. You can't beat that for simple work where you're your own boss.
@@factsmatter1172 In the video about my $12k month, I averaged just a touch over 12 hours/day, which counted the moment I left my house to the moment I arrived back home. I don't really pay attention to active dash time vs total dash time, because I'm multi-apping and it doesn't really mean much.
And you're absolutely right. I'm not going to mince words, it was very hard work. I try to tell people they will have hard-even depressing days-and you HAVE to have a reachable end goal, one big thing and many small things to look forward to. I'm still young and blessed with good health, and as a former software developer, I'd like to think I have a pretty good analytical brain. At the beginning, I even wrote a program that measured and compared wait times, order frequency, and payouts, so I knew for sure which restaurants to hang around.
I recognize not everyone may have the same physical and mental capacity (not trying to toot my own horn, just reality)....but even if you only take the hourly wage, and you didn't want to put all those hours in, $35/hour is still more than I've ever made as a web/software developer (aged 19-25) or photographer (aged 25 - present).
That sounds like an excessive amount on gas. What are you driving? I picked up a 2005 Prius for $2500, and was spending about $400/month, driving 12 hours a day, 30 days/month. I'm not saying you should go out and do the same thing, but think about the price of a used hybrid, and how long it would take to pay itself off in gas alone. 4 months? 5 months? It's probably not long
@@callmelil I already had a Pathfinder. The problem is also they nickel and diming us here in Miami. The last week I have not reached my goals. 17 with $69 bucks. Top that off with not finishing my weekend cause a lady running the light on the opposite road incoming towards me like a bat outta h... Totalled my car and her car. Whole frame gone...
All these UA-camrs claiming huge amounts? 100k Dashing? Most of us are doing about $20 per hour avg. The gas though kills this job. You are burning through huge amounts of gas and wearing out all your car parts so fast. This is a temporary gig at best.
I’ll link how I did it (my old video) here: ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html. I made $12k that month. I wouldn’t work like that for a full year, but if I did, that’s $144k. Obviously surpassing $100k
I also already wrote a synopsis of how it’s done, so I’ll paste that below, but first with the gas: I bought a 2005 Prius for $2500, it saved me roughly $500/month with as much as I was driving-paid for itself entirely in unused gas in only 5 months. I’d definitely recommend picking one up if you can.
Imagine this: You make $22/hour on a single app, taking about 3 orders/hour-that’s roughly where I was when I did Doordash for the first time.
You set some rules that tighten up where you’re allowed to deliver from. Some are hard rules, some are soft-as tempting as a big delivery is, you never grab from ihop or denny’s for example, because they’ll definitely make you wait (insert whatever restaurant here that’s bad in your experience). You’re up to about $24/hour.
Now imagine multi-apping-cherrypicking only the biggest orders you think are available in your market right now. You can do this, because multiple apps gives you more volume, more to choose from. You keep track of what kind of orders come through at this time of day and week, and reject everything until you find something on the higher end of way you expect this time and day. You’re up to $27/hour.
Now you’re getting quite confident, you know what restaurants make you wait, you know the boundaries of your market, so you feel comfortable stacking. Every third delivery or so, you done another delivery from another app going to roughly the same place as the one you’re taking right now. Maybe this is worth $7, maybe $15, but crucially, it adds very little extra time. Since you find one every third delivery, that’s roughly one every hour, and you immediately jump from $27 to $35/hour.
And that is all it takes. The numbers may not work out exactly like that, and they’ll be different from day to day, hour to hour, market to market, but that’s the gist
It’s hard and it takes practice. You will screw up at first, but it’s worth it
@@callmelil damn best advice for gig workers I've seen on UA-cam. I know you said in your other video that you want to be known for your photography, but I think some people have the ability to be excellent at more than one thing. You are one of those people. I hope your channel takes off so that just around the time the delivery gigs go as you predict you'll be killing it as a content creator! 👏 looking forward to seeing you succeed 🙌
@@darrenoconnell9716 Thanks man, I really appreciate the encouragement! :) I recently made a decision to really go for this UA-cam thing. Crossing fingers everything goes well
Exactly... I dashed in about three or four different markets and it averages out exactly to be about what you said $20 an hour and then some markets even less than that because it’s just not that busy.
Also, I believe the drivers were making that much money all the time there wouldn’t be so much turnover with DoorDash and most of the delivery apps needing new drivers. I know good and well that if I was making $10-$12,000 a month I would definitely not mind working 12 to 14 hours a day.
@@georgejetson5222 Are you multi-apping? Stacking multiple apps? I was making about $22/hour when I started with 1 app (Doordash). There's a whole strategy behind turning that into $35/hour. Have you seen the $12k month video? ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html I do my best to break down the strategy, but feel free to ask any questions
Great vid!
Thank you!
So Motivational bro ! I am about to start my Door-dash journey next week . Because I lost my job. Thanks for the video
How has it gone?
This job should be a stepping stone or part time not career, grind now to prepare for something else
100%, the ONLY way to safeguard your future is to take ownership. The high economy is even worse, and I’ve seen way too many people get burned in a traditionally “safe” career-that won’t be me.
I do have to say doing it full-time you make way more money working a regular job but the past year it has went down tremendously specially after their lawsuit they deactivated somebody for no reason and the guy stayed on for $1 million and won
i only do doordash when im bored😂
Probably the best time to do it 😂
Your hunch is correct and being tested. You are correct about the ghosting I know drivers whom have experienced this in rural areas.
That’s brutal man. I can’t even imagine just being ghosted from my job
@@callmelil well here its done over a period of 8 hour 12 hour and or 24 hour segments. There is a way around being ghosted. Thank you for putting the information out.
Man you got me. Never thought of buying time. Always looked at mirror and wrinkles starting with a thought of time as a flowing water that can’t be stopped.
Boom! That's it man. We each have one life to live, and I don't want to spend mine working some job I don't care about. Think about what you want, act on it. Hope you're well and thriving!
Someone please go to his city in Oregon and let me know if you’re making $12,000 a month because if you are then I’m definitely driving to Oregon today😂 at this point He’s really giving me a DoorDash Marketing employee vibes.
Not everyone makes that kind of money in my market. Most are making $20-25/hour just like everyone else. Have you seen my other video? There’s strategy to it
ua-cam.com/video/ya49WLZ4YtA/v-deo.html
Also, I don't think a DD marketing employee would be advocating for multi-apping, but if DD wants to pay me, I'm all ears 😂
I only do instacart, but you literally have to take stacked orders for low pay. They mix tippers and non tippers... batch pay is minimum 7 bucks.. so why are doubles and triples 8 and 9 bucks, they should be 14 to 21 dollars at minimum. They are a crooked system and need to be reported by the BBB
I don't do instacart-mostly because I suck at finding stuff in the store, but that sounds really crooked! Good luck
Instacart is the shitiest. They try to get you to do 2 batches for 20-25 bucks total ,screw people, think they’re entitled to have us shop for 50 items for them or more, for nothing.. a batch should be 25-50 for one. Unless it’s like the 3-4 items at CVS for 10-12 bucks. Those are ok. Especially if they aren’t far. Yeah I got back on Dash after how ridiculous instacart is. You might get a proper batch 5-10 percent of time and they get scooped up in a matter of seconds.
Very underrated channel just need you to post more
Thanks man! I am trying. I am "supposedly" a videographer, but I just recently decided I'm going to start taking UA-cam seriously, since it matches my career so perfectly. I will be posting more in the not-too-distant future
Well Said love the energy
Thank you!
Yeah Elon musk has been promising self driving was here for half a decade. Even now in an investor call he admitted the problem is harder than he thought and that the last few percent to get is there could be years away.
How would self driving food delivery even work? The restaurant employees putting food into the car? They can barely staff them good enough to pay attention when we walk in the door. Then the car has to find it’s way to the customer in all kinds of weather conditions, deal with wrong addresses AND the customer has to what…come outside and get their own food? Or what?
Yeah. Food delivery isn’t going away soon just because fancy adaptive cruise control is a thing. This video was just off the mark. About 10 years too early and even then, the technology and regulatory issues might still not be there
You bring up some very good points here. Thanks for sharing
A much better argument would be “this won’t happen in smaller cities and towns. They will always need drivers because the investment of driverless vehicles is too high when volume is so low.” At least that’s speculation we ultimately can’t know for sure. Fact is, what you call impossible is already reality in some markets.
Uber Eats is already rolling out driverless cars. Lyft announced they would do so next year (theirs with passengers). Doordash has already deployed delivery robots, and is working on their own self driving cars. Even dominos-which is only one restaurant chain-has rolled out driverless deliveries in some markets (their little cars are so cute). Uber went as far as to say self driving cars will be their "key" to profitibility. Tesla was just the first major player in this space, and certainly has their place in it, but they're not the only competitor around, nor are they the furthest along or most advanced. This is already reality in some markets and is lot closer to being widespread than you think.
Also, I don't know why driverless deliveries would work for the restaurant any differently than curbside pickup does already. It really isn't that complicated, and it's already happening.
But this isn't even the whole takeaway from the video. These apps will continue to pay less as they get more efficient and gain market dominance. What are you doing to prepare for that day when it doesn't make sense anymore?
They are already delivering by drone - and if companies like Walmart can use self driving trucks ( which they do for some) food delivery will also fall victim. All service jobs will be lost to automation in five years. And I sleep pretty well in the self driving Tesla
I wholeheartedly agree. I respect both oponions.
Every job is going to be automated someday. This isn’t unique to doordash.
100% agreed. We’re headed in that direction for most every profession, and it will raise moral and regulatory questions we’ve never really had to ask before
Wow! You have literally ZERO dislikes on this video! Thats impressive! I literally have no idea what i want to do with my life anymore. My dad just got cancer and im still not self sufficient at all. I cant even doordash because i cant get them to change my email on the app so i can log in right now. I dont think im gonna make it. I watched all this video. Good points and informative. Nicely done!
Great video. There is some hope though which is organizing and regulation. I’m Seattle drivers were able to do secure 30% higher rates than any other market. This proves we can make it happen and we should be focusing on making sure it does happen.
Organizing is absolutely the right move and our lack in collective action, I believe, is the primary reason that wages have not kept up with productivity in the US since the 80's. It still won't last forever though. Eventually, tech and automation will creep into this sector and put more and more people out of work. I hope you are working on diversification
65% of businesses fail within 5 years with these apps you are your own boss you decide when to work and what orders to take it’s a business your business if you do good that’s on you if you do bad that’s also on you own it I don’t understand why people complain so much when they are making money These app allow people to put money in their pockets you go on UA-cam talking about I made 12k in one month then you come on here putting fear into people that use the apps to make a living and tell them how they will get rid of all drivers blah blah this will not happen and if it does there will be other option just gotta move with the flow of things 🙏🏻
You may have only just seen my $12k video, but I recorded it almost a year ago, so it’s not like I had any intention of giving people hope and then killing it. I’m just trying to give people as much info as I can so they can make their own informed decision.
Also, I break down exactly why I predict this will happen, and I’m telling people that right now, there’s still time to strike.. it’s just a good idea to diversify your income-unsure why that would be a controversial message
Also, your 65% stat is off base. It assumes the old way of doing business. We’ve moved into a new era where people are simply working for themselves, sometimes with multiple streams of income. And every new venture is a transition to the next one, business is smaller and more fluid. You, as a delivery driver, are running one of these “new era” businesses. You think you have a 65% chance of failure in 5 years? I’m sure you’re aware success and failure of your delivery business isn’t defined the same as a traditional business
BLACKROCK AND VANGUARD OWNS EVERYTHING
Literally Everything dude.
I hate to go into those "The Man owns everything and controls our life from the shadows" Consipracy theory Alex Jones type ordeals but it's getting harder and harder to deny this shit. Fuck Capitalism.
You are sneaky! Had me listening to your rant and then wonder why the video abruptly ended. Trying to get that watch-through/retention stat going aren’t you.🧐😉
It’s a 20 min video..what do you mean?
You just earned a sub. 🙏🏾
Thank you, I appreciate the support!
Buddy, you have what’s called the gift of the gab. You talk too much. OK, maybe DoorDash goes tits up in 10 years, who cares? I’ll just go get another job. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve moved from one job to another. I don’t think you need to make a 45 minute video about it!!
As for fully autonomous vehicles: they are a long long way off! Where do electric vehicles recharge themselves? There’s massive infrastructure that needs to be built!! As impressive as the technology is it still has a long long way to go
These have been cleared for launch in the next couple months in Santa Monica and next year in Vegas: fortune.com/2021/11/10/motionals-driverless-taxi-fleet-will-expand-worldwide-after-vegas-2023-launch-ceo-says/
These are already being used in Houston, among other places: www.nuro.ai/ and has now partnered with Kroger
These are already being used in my city (London), among other places: www.starship.xyz/
Autonomous vehicles aren’t just coming soon, they’re already here. The only speculative question is how widespread they’ll be in a decade. The great thing about autonomous vehicles is they work around our existing infrastructure. Where will they be charged? If Kroger has fleets of them for grocery delivery, wouldn’t they just house them in their warehouses? It doesn’t seem that complex. As far as Doordash, e-scooters are already using individuals to get them charged. I don’t know what they’re ultimately going to decide, but they could easily drive to a partner’s house-no new infrastructure needed. Doordash is also building something called Dashmart. Officially, how they replace convenience stores but could also serve as charging hubs. The sky is literally the limit, and those are the easy questions to answer
Also, bro, my video is less than 20 min. Click away if you don’t like it, I didn’t ask you to be here. Lots of people will “just go get other jobs”, but many people don’t want to do that, I’m just trying to warn people to take ownership in something now.
THANK YOU 🙏🏽 LIL 💜
You’re welcome, thank you for the love!
You're Right! 👍👍💯
Step 2 is great with the algorithm, because you can consistently make more money as you drop low ball orders. There some makers that have been around since 2013 but most markets are still very new, Utah only started up in 2018 and there opening markets up here all the time.
Every driver should watch this video 💎
I really hope they do-drivers need a warning to know exactly what they're getting into, and put a plan in place. Hope you're well
Agreed. Its perfect for in-between jobs.
More people than you know use it as their primary source of income, which IMO is getting more and more dangerous
Awesome video! My dashing allows me to invest a lot of money into creating music and I am so thankful for that.
Awesome man, do you have a spotify you want to drop here?
@@callmelil haha sure! Searching my name “Alex Bochel” will take ya to the page. It’s for anyone who likes Alan walker or Avicii mixed with Brandi Carlisle. Safe for UA-cam use too :)
Beautiful blurred background. Great content, thanks!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback and have another video coming out tomorrow :)
Spot on.
Thanks buddy.
You got it, thanks for stopping in
Keep up the good work
Thank you!
What you said about ghosting drivers. I swear that has been going on with me in the last week. I have been driving for doordash for a little over 2 years, I know the restraunts and the right orders to accept. They have been giving me only $2 and $3 dollar orders, then my app freezes up or won't let me complete orders, won't show the address. I've actually had good orders show up, and after I accept, it gives me an error screen and says I can't do it. Then the app keeps pausing my dash before I can get any orders. One dash of 3 hours, I only made $8 but put a lot of miles on my car. On my last order they offered $18 to drive 2 orders from the same restraunt. I drove there and picked up tje orders. But then couldnt get the addresses for the people that ordered. I spent an hour calling doordash help line. Finally I told them I would just take the orders back into the restraunt. And they could figure out how to get them delivered. (The poor hungry customers)
At the same time I see texts from other drivers, saying they're doing great. Then doordash pays out incentives anywhere from $50 to $500. They seem to like to get new drivers who dont know better than to drive more miles than the $'s they earn. Till they have to buy new tires. Pay taxes or put $4 dollar a gallon gas in their car. Basically you realize youre not making much and your car will wear out driving but you wont be able to buy a new one. We learn to be very careful what orders we accept. And then they just round up a new batch of drivers
So many people tell me Doordash is "so glitchy" and "they can't even get their app right. How would they ever command autonomous vehicles?" I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Doordash app is glitchy BY DESIGN. Support is Sh*tty BY DESIGN. They want high turnover, they want to spend as litlle as possible. They gain nothing by making your job easier.
Separate issue but similar and I can't prove it, but I believe each gig app company has something of a "hit list"-maybe you didn't break the rules, so they won'y kick you off, but they're not making as much money off you as they would off a new recruit, so they'll look to make your life harder-maybe look for an excuse to deactivate you.
Just a couple of the many reasons I hope you're using the apps to creat something new. Invest in yourself. Are you building anything now?
Love your video! Im currently grinding doordash since i have 10k in CC debt i want to get rid of. Id like to one full year for 100k and then ill have so much freedom and options for what i want to do next.
Love it! I hope that is going well for you
Just discovered your videos and love your perspective. I have a disability that stops me from being able to work the normal 9-5 and delivery apps are my only way to make money, but I am working on building my graphic design / print shop from home. Its definitely true that we are at the mercy of these apps, sometimes my husband joins me on the dinner rush and I won't get any good orders and he gets stacked orders and great tips. So its so true that they cherry pick also. I definitely need to reevaluate everything. Having my disability is definitely a barrier.
That's rough, I'm really sorry to hear that. I obviously don't know what your disability is, but these gig apps often give us opportunities we wouldn't otherwise have. Other side of the same coin, they know exactly what power over us that gives them.
Are you working on something else at the moment? Another business or?
Thanks for the response 😊 I am working on building my home business as well. Graphic design and printing. Though it tends to fluctuate. I am trying to find ways to make multiple streams of income because working a fulltime 9-5 causes my health to be bad. Door dash does give me the flexibility I need for those bad days , but it is not reliable as I'd like it to be. 🤷🏻♀
@@fifiearthwanderer I know exactly what you mean. My work as a photographer and as a web developer fluctuated like crazy as well, and the experience I talked about in this video: ua-cam.com/video/IjDLlgeNaJc/v-deo.html was a real wakeup call. As soon as I got back on my feet, I put 100% of my effort into varying forms of passive income. I've had success in business before, but there is nothing quite like that security