Thanks. Very informative!! As to a stock 93LE, is it considered a “lowered suspension such that I can use these mounts without spring issues? I have original bilstein shocks and bump stops from the original boots. 2nd question if I use your bump stops what do I do about a boot?
Hmm, good question about the springs on the LE. I'm not sure but can you confirm the color of the dot on the front and rear springs? We don't run dust boots with Koni shocks unless you do a lot of off-road excursions. Our bump stops work great for stock height and lowered Miatas but they won't fit into the stock dust boot like the OE does. However, they still do their job just fine.
What are you looking to get out of it? Comfort? Better handling? Something like our Koni Yellows with your factory springs will give you a factory ride height, but adjustable damping. The Koni Sports are very track capable, and perfect for a street car that sees some spirited driving. A premium full coilover set-up, such as our Fox kit, will give you tons of adjustability to let you tune the feel to your liking, and adjust the ride height so you aren't lowering the car. Give us a call if you have specific questions, we'd be more than happy to help talk you through what you need.
@@TargaMiata Thanks for reply but the question is: Should I use front NB top mount and rear extended flyin miata top mount? Is there big height difference between the two options?
@@TargaMiata Is there anything to achieve this way making custom rear top mount? I can fabricate taller one from stock nb mount for the rear but dont know how much taller should it be. I have custom springs for the setup. Im looking for 12.5"/12.75" ride height.
Does this really set the shock piston position at 50% (for equal bump and droop travel)? I have read that the position of the shock piston position should be at 1/3 of full travel, to allow 2/3 for bump travel and 1/3 for droop travel.
Since actual suspension range of motion is limited by other factors, this is set up to give you as much bump travel as possible. Attaining a 2:1 ratio may not be possible on a lowered Miata.
“More suspension travel with NA rear extended shock mounts” I wonder why people get confused and think they increase travel? Lol Is this a re upload? I swear I just watched this the other day
Sorry but this isnt really a good product, Maruha motors from japan has the pretty much the same product, but its only like 30 USD each hat, so 60 vs 240 not including shipping, its about 150 for 4 top hats including shipping to the US. Easy to order too. 3.2x less then getting 4 flyin miata ones.
The difference is that the Maruha ones are basically modified NB mounts. They don’t keep the ride height the same as the NA mounts. That’s a pretty significant difference. Note that we don’t recommend extended front mounts, as the tire usually ends up hard into the fender. If you put the Maruha ones in the rear of an NA, the rear of the car will sit low.
Thats why you get adjustable sleeves, its more to allow the shock more room to absorb. If you get adjustable sleeves which are pretty cheap it allows you to adjust the ride height, while still getting extended travel from the extended tophats. @@FlyinMiataVideo
@@JefferyTom-s2hAdjustable sleeves won't solve the problem with the front wheels, but they can be used to make up for the different NA vs NB geometry in the rear. It's a more complex solution that involves more parts and more adjustment, so it's not for everyone. And that's why there are different options on the market.
Can you guys talk about wheel and tire sizes selection? How does a different wheel or tire size affect performance/comfort?
Good suggestion! We'll add that to our future topic list. Thank you!
Thanks. Very informative!! As to a stock 93LE, is it considered a “lowered suspension such that I can use these mounts without spring issues? I have original bilstein shocks and bump stops from the original boots.
2nd question if I use your bump stops what do I do about a boot?
Hmm, good question about the springs on the LE. I'm not sure but can you confirm the color of the dot on the front and rear springs?
We don't run dust boots with Koni shocks unless you do a lot of off-road excursions. Our bump stops work great for stock height and lowered Miatas but they won't fit into the stock dust boot like the OE does. However, they still do their job just fine.
so what set up should i get that works at stock height (or higher) not here to lower the car, its low enough...
What are you looking to get out of it? Comfort? Better handling? Something like our Koni Yellows with your factory springs will give you a factory ride height, but adjustable damping. The Koni Sports are very track capable, and perfect for a street car that sees some spirited driving. A premium full coilover set-up, such as our Fox kit, will give you tons of adjustability to let you tune the feel to your liking, and adjust the ride height so you aren't lowering the car. Give us a call if you have specific questions, we'd be more than happy to help talk you through what you need.
How about using NB koni sports in NA chassis? Should i use these? I have shocks already.
You’ll need NB springs and upper mounts to match. But as a whole setup, go for it.
@@TargaMiata Thanks for reply but the question is: Should I use front NB top mount and rear extended flyin miata top mount? Is there big height difference between the two options?
@@carmotogitaro use NB mounts front and rear. The geometry of the NB springs and the NB shock shaft is wrong for the FM mounts.
@@TargaMiata Is there anything to achieve this way making custom rear top mount? I can fabricate taller one from stock nb mount for the rear but dont know how much taller should it be. I have custom springs for the setup. Im looking for 12.5"/12.75" ride height.
Does this really set the shock piston position at 50% (for equal bump and droop travel)? I have read that the position of the shock piston position should be at 1/3 of full travel, to allow 2/3 for bump travel and 1/3 for droop travel.
Since actual suspension range of motion is limited by other factors, this is set up to give you as much bump travel as possible. Attaining a 2:1 ratio may not be possible on a lowered Miata.
“More suspension travel with NA rear extended shock mounts”
I wonder why people get confused and think they increase travel? Lol
Is this a re upload? I swear I just watched this the other day
Sorry but this isnt really a good product, Maruha motors from japan has the pretty much the same product, but its only like 30 USD each hat, so 60 vs 240 not including shipping, its about 150 for 4 top hats including shipping to the US. Easy to order too. 3.2x less then getting 4 flyin miata ones.
The difference is that the Maruha ones are basically modified NB mounts. They don’t keep the ride height the same as the NA mounts. That’s a pretty significant difference.
Note that we don’t recommend extended front mounts, as the tire usually ends up hard into the fender. If you put the Maruha ones in the rear of an NA, the rear of the car will sit low.
Thats why you get adjustable sleeves, its more to allow the shock more room to absorb. If you get adjustable sleeves which are pretty cheap it allows you to adjust the ride height, while still getting extended travel from the extended tophats. @@FlyinMiataVideo
@@JefferyTom-s2hAdjustable sleeves won't solve the problem with the front wheels, but they can be used to make up for the different NA vs NB geometry in the rear. It's a more complex solution that involves more parts and more adjustment, so it's not for everyone. And that's why there are different options on the market.