How Trailer Music Tricks You
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2019
- Has the music in your favorite trailer ever sounded a little too familiar?
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Star Wars IX Trailer without music
• Star Wars IX Teaser (W...
FilmScoreAnalysis (if you watch my video you have to go to his channel)
/ @bradfrey
Dr. Lehman's (Music Yoda) twitter
/ fmlehman
Dr. Lehman's Star Wars Leitmotif Catalog
www.academia.edu/33487589/Com...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invinci...)
Great Website for finding duplicate trailer soundtracks
www.soundtrack.net/trailers/
The Island examples
gotoricks.blogspot.com/2011/07...
Copyright in Trailer Music Composition Article
web.archive.org/web/201006060...
I found the story behind Brad Bird and the Incredibles here
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...
And the Army of Darkness example from here
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...
Making of "Thor: The Dark World" by Brian Tyler
• Making of "Thor: The D...
John Williams - Empire Strikes Back Recording Session
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Star Wars - Recording Sessions
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Clearly the real message here is that Kylo Ren is actually three Ewoks standing on top of each other, in a human skinsuit.
i will sue disney if this isnt in IX
Have u sued yet
yes
Good
Leia had a thing for Ewoks. Good on Han for raising the kids anyway.
Trailer: Badass theme plays when hero is being a badass
Movie: silence
Well that's the point of the trailer it gets you hyped for a scene like do you want a scene with slomo and trailer music ik it's a joke but just saying
@@Whateveridksomething yeah having the trailer music in the movie would have made it alot better.
There was no music when Rey jumps over the fighter or when she and Kylo were dueling.
mostly just generic or a new so.ngtrack... nothing new... don't mean muh
kinda klick bait 😅
"Kylo Ren is gonna lead a death cult of Ewoks."
That genuinely would have been better than what we got.
It would be epic
Thought kylo just carried the entire trilogy
@@diht fax g
To be fair, getting shot probably would be less painful than what we got
I was scammed by the title i can give 2 shit's about star wars
“The music is the last thing that happens”
Christopher Nolan and Hans Zimmer:
*are you sure about that*
Dunkirk has awesome soundtrack
Can't wait to see what Zimmer does with Dune.
Interstellar was amazing as well
TENET took that to another level, the same music in the trailer plays out in the movie which is one of the many reasons i love it so much
@@Whateveridksomething We should send specimens of Nolan's works along with some of his movies to outer space, just like the Voyager missions did.
I’ll take a shot every time Rey jumps over Ren’s ship in this video.
Talkinglegodude the Georgie Daddy I love this comment
Dont, stay healthy
You do be dying doe
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It really was a brilliant trailer and choice of song. It worked on so many levels and still managed to be a subliminal reminder/joke that Marvel is part of the Disney Empire.
But how do you explain Gangster's Paradise in the Sonic trailer.
shaunaisazombie you can't, just like the thought process behind those who made that movie
The song came out in the 90s? That's all I got
Honestly, Amish Paradise (done by the God himself Weird Al Yankovic) would’ve been a better fit for that movie.
ua-cam.com/video/xCQuWSvd-hk/v-deo.html
They didn't know how to make the movie look even worse than it is, so the took music that doesn't fit at all.
I remember when I saw the trailer for Ant-Man and the Wasp and I thought the music was pretty good so I looked into it and found out it was a song called "Ants Invasion" by Adam and the Ants. Pure genius.
Or just an intern with Google access
2:17 It's also the Frozen 2 "Secret Siren" call. This theme can be found in nearly every cinematic creation. It's like the Swiss Army Knife of musical phrases.
OMG that’s what i was thinking!!
Detective Pikachu did really trick me with the 'i need a hero' music.
Happy Together + pokemon stadium them
I thought it was "I'm holding out for a hero"?
Nadia Mozer Husain it was, but he’s referring too another trailer
@@pandora8940 Oh, thanks.
Myah! No that’s just the name of the “I need a hero music”
“Kylo Ren is going to lead a death cult of Ewoks”
Me: *Laughs like Sideous throwing chairs as Yoda*
I'd watch that
r/whoooosh
Omg, me too
Is oddly possible. They will probably be on the Forest Moon of Endor, and that could mean Ewoks
Honestly that'd be awesome
2:43 - Kylo Ren leads a death cult of Ewoks
Actual movie - Kylo Ren "dies" (from a certain point of view) on a moon of Endor.
This video had it right the whole time, but covered it in a joke!
Jacob Neighbors um not the same thing but alright
Wait. Exegol is in the Unknown Regions
@@henanigans205 he means after his fight with Rey
@@Eyeofwebbishbog I don't really remember the context (five months is quite a long time) but you're probably right.
When he talks to the “ghost” of Han Solo, he throws his loghtsaber into the ocean. Signifying that he is turned away from the dark side.
Two Steps From Hell is actually an amazing group. Several of their compositions have made it to the Mass Effect trilogy cinematic trailers. They produce some high quality stuff.
Every piece of 'music' in trailers is just
*BWOOOONG*
...
*BWOOOONG*
So true
That started with Inception.
That's totally from Inception. Hans Zimmer created for the first trailer, then every movie just had to had it.
@@Pinky.Meerkat Actually that trailer music was written by Zack Hemsey and it's called Mind Heist.
@@danielkatona8778 That makes sense. I didn't think Hans Zimmer would have written it.
I got it!
Bohemian Rhapsody: A Non-chorus multiple genre piece of music which was complied together.
Suicide Squad: A hodgepodge of clips and a mess of movie!
the only difference is that Bohemian Rhapsody, despite being an absolute mess (actually scratch that, because it's a mess) was an absolute bop
and suicide squad?
uhhhh....
it looks cool?
SoulJynx Sucide Squad was absolute garbage oh my god
@@arnav7458 I know
@@arnav7458 you mean Suicide Squad was absolute Star Wars sequel trilogy?
Are you implying that they thought the Suicide Squad would be like a beautiful Rhapsody about death? Because I'd believe it.
The Ultron one didn't make me think "Disney owns Marvel Studios." It made me think "Robot/puppet breaking away from it's master."
jinxie712 i know, this guy misses the point every time
You guys both clearly missed the most obvious joke ever
@@SamuelKristopher not *the* most obvious one
@@jinxie712 I dunno, Sideways strikes me as a pretty smart guy. I've watched most of his videos and he knows what he's talking about, and has a pretty big passion for films and storytelling in general. He also likes to be sarcastic a lot. Put those things together and I think it's definitely the case that he knows Ultron's song is about puppets and breaking free, but right now it's trendy to shit on Disney at every chance possible.
@@SamuelKristopher He did what? You want to talk about it?
Nobody:
Kylo ren is going to lead a team of evil ewoks
and in doing so, Kylo Ren will immediately fixes the flaws of the last 2 movies.
Plot twist: Those ewoks are the *REAL Knights of Ren* 😱
@@knightofanguish7399 yes sir
@@masonharris9166 last Jedi plot stand no chance
And be mind controlled by Darth Jar Jar
Age of ultron trailer score was briliant. Ultron was a computer program bound by wires and cables (strings) and then he got his own body, just like pinochio- so no more strings.
durim187 Fun fact: Disney influences their properties like Marvel, to use easily recognizable Disney references and that "No strings on me" in Age of Ultron is a perfect example of that.
@@mcspazotron I mean, I figured as much, but even so it's still an appropriate choice of music because of the reason OP described.
Yes! I loved that trailer
It really was a brilliant trailer and choice of song. It worked on so many levels and still managed to be a subliminal reminder/joke that Marvel is part of the Disney Empire.
the music choice combined with the great voice acting made it a really cool trailer imo
Trailer was better than the movie, an increasingly recurring theme in modern cinema.
One reason I haven’t watched trailers for at least five years.
It’s all about the $$$$
That "To the Stars" song from _Dragonheart_ has also been reused a lot, but I can't think of a specific example.
I also distinctly remember a trailer for _I, Robot_ which used the song from _The Matrix Revolutions_ when Neo fights Smith in the rain.
There's also that "Adagio in D Minor" song from _Sunshine_ which has been used a lot, most recently in _Wonder Woman 1984._
"On the Nature of Daylight" by Max Richter has appeared in a few movies, including _Arrival_ and _Shutter Island._
One of the trailers for _The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers_ used "Requiem for a Dream" which was, of course, composed for the movie _Requiem for a Dream._
Oh hey, didn’t expect to see you here Possum, I pleasant surprise!
Pancakes or waffles?
Oh the dragonheart theme was used in a trailer for the animated Mulan! the trailer was on one of my 90s Disney VHSs and I heard it over and over again, and then years later I was watching dragon heart for the first time and almost fell out of my chair when I heard it. Another one that crops up a lot is the instrumental version of 'what's this?' from The Nightmare before Christmas, it has played in several whimsical Christmas themed movie trailers
Stop pretending you watch good movies and go find some garbage, you filthy animal. Love you, pal.
One Man of Steal trailer had The Lord of The Rings soundtrack in it as well.
literally no one:
Sideways: "Leitmotifs"
he’s like james roach’s destined nemesis
yep never thought about leitmotivs before his videos and how important they can be
This meme sucks.
@@nowhereman6019 It was fine for about 12 hours, how it survived past that point is beyond me -_-
@@daslynnter9841 Luckily there's a litmotif for being a wet blanket: ua-cam.com/video/4X7q87RDSHI/v-deo.html
UK - licence
US - license
Video mash up - liscence
Now imagine learning English as first foreign language, both British and American English, also during exams you may only use one of them.
Fun times.
Hotel - Trivago
@@BoserPSN I did. I'm okay with both trousers and pants, humour and humor and so on. We usually are allowed to use any and even mix them, lol.
Shichibi no Raijuu but trousers and humour are correct XD
@@drawde_064 not in the US, or at least where abouts I am.
A great example of License Music would be Immigrant Song in Thor: Ragnarok's trailer.
Oh my lord, I got so hyped for this movie thanks to the song in the trailer. And then they actually used it in the movie. Genius.
Or actually "In the face of evil" by Magic Sword, they didn't show it in the movie.
@@alicjagrohs2297 didnt they use it twice
I can explain the use of Hurt in Logan's trailer. Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt was recorded relatively close to his death, and many believe his version of the song is reflective of his own life given the song's subject matter. Many, myself included, believed the song was basically spoiling the movie by saying SPOILER ALERT Wolvie dies in this movie after some self reflection.
EDIT: Also, why no mention that time Warner Bros. used a portion of The Bridge of Khazad Dum from Lord of the Rings for the trailer of Man of Steel? I remember people making a big deal about it when the trailer dropped.
the lyrics just match up well with logans story.
' everyone i know goes away in the end"
because of wolverines healing factor he has lived for so long and can essentially reheal from even death itself when he was younger everyone he has ever loved he has had to watch go away in the end.
his 'empire of dirt' refers to wolverine ending up after all he has been through with just another grave stone surrounded by dirt to leave behind to his daughter after all the humans and mutants he has killed in wars and battles over his life and has nothing left to show for it.
'i focus on the pain, the only thing that's real' essetially referring to how much of logans past was never a memory but lost in his mind and the only thing real to him is the pain he currently feels and always will feel that reminds him despite no memory of living up to a certain point he is in fact real.
'the needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting' obviously not needles but can refer to wolverines giant metal claws that peirce his skin everytime he uses them and it has become the pain familiar with him over his life as he mentioned to rouge it hurts every single time he does it.
I could not have imagined a better fitting song for that trailer to encapsulate Wolverine's journey
I thought I was crazy because I was the only one I knew who realized the connection between the Man of Steel teaser and LotR.
If that Death Cult of Ewoks doesn't show up in SW IX, imma be salty now
I'm telling you, the canon never keeps up with the doujins.
TW IX
Right or Left you must bring balance.
Sorry that’s all I’ve got.
More salty than Lemon, Lime, Iodized Salt, dry Kool-Aid and Pickles put together. :)
Firiel you're famous now
Wait, so if the Death Cult isn't there when the movie is released later, you're going to be salty retroactively to now?
I’m pretty sure it was Leia’s theme.. when the trailer used it, I took it as a tribute to Carrie Fisher being in the series still. Certainly not Luke’s theme though.
Hard Poor Corn The force theme plays later on the trailer, listen: 3:08
It starts off with Leia’s theme though, but the guy clearly knows it since he posted an image of it at around 1:53. He says that the trailer is composed of various Star Wars themes, but not _the_ Star Wars theme (1:43).
@@naingmon That one was from the "The Force Awakens" trailer that he used to contrast.
He said, "But there are just elements of other Star Wars that just--I don't know--they don't really sound exactly like the maestro himself. Like, take the Force Awakens trailer right here, where we hear the Force theme (or Binary Sunset)."
That's at 2:56 -- right before 3:08 .
He probably just misspoke when he was referencing the actual Rise of Skywalker trailer's soundtrack.
"You see the music for a movie is that last thing to happen"
Christopher Nolan: Hold my Hans Zimmer
Honestly Two Steps from Hell and Full Tilt are some of my favorite artists, and they do entirely trailer music!
You should try audiomachine and brunuhville. They're similar but have their own style.
What happened to trailer music?
The Epic Aggressive Modern Hybrid-Orchestral genre happened.
Sadly, yes.
@@GrandElemental Why is that sad? If used right it can and will sound awesome and very modern without breaking any rules to how trailer music these days should sound like.. One can argue that we have too many trailers with low effort hybrid-orchestral sound
@@netrex9916 I like actual orchestral music with fully utilized instruments, not 80's rock played by 3 synthesized instruments and the sacrifice of compositional prowess for desperate attempt at sounding "EPIC". That is why it's sad.
i dont know what "Epic Aggressive Modern Hybrid-Orchestral", but i know what you mean
@@GrandElemental its all about tone, depends on what kind of movie it is
Sooo... Why did Paramount use Gangsters Paradise on Sonic the Hedgehog?
Found the answer: ua-cam.com/video/t-uY2QpW51I/v-deo.html
@@Retr0Dima BOI
Becuase the chorus sounds like Hooked On A Feeling
@@tsohgallik what 😂😂😂 the fuck are you smoking
@@Retr0Dima LMAO
2019: 'every other week or so there's some new trailer that takes week by storm.'
2021: I kind of miss that ngl
It’s 2024 and I still miss that too
Something I just noticed, but why does Kylo Ren’s light saber sometimes work like a sword, but other times like a baseball bat? On the trailer, he strikes a guy with his saber, but it like picks the victim up instead of cutting straight through him.
Because these three are bad movies.
Disney forgot how lightsabers work
The new films have a lot of lightsaber baseball batting. There's a scene where Rey just starts swinging her saber around with no precision, as epic music plays, but it just looks like she's getting ready to step up to the plate.
to be fair there are scenes in the other six movies where the lightsabers work more like a bat than a sword, leading to some theories about lightsabers technically having a flat edge that we can't see bc they're so damn bright (and the darksaber looks the way it does bc it's just less bright than the rest and/or dipping into the UV spectrum) and more experienced wielders (vader, qui-gon, yoda) would be better at utilizing the sharp vs flat edges to their advantage, while less experienced wielders (luke, young obi-wan, rey and kylo ig) are generally still learning, and therefore more likely to just hit someone/something with the flat side of the blade without intending to. obviously, because lightsabers are still so hot, the flat side's still gonna do some good damage, but it's not gonna cut through everything like butter the same way the sharp edges will.
this is of course entirely up to the person whether or not they choose to incorporate this into their personal canon, and it's probably not actually true canon, but i think it fits well into what we see on-screen.
@@harmless_spider Okay, but he hits a guy in the trailer in the waist hard enough to pick him up off his feet and send him to the ground.
Obi-Wan hit Maul in the same place and it sliced him perfectly in half.
You know that this is Leia's Theme right?
Thank you
Was thinking the same thing with a puzzled face throughout the whole video..
I was confused too... Not like the music isnt star wars because it is. Also because Carrie Fisher passed away (R.I.P.) it was fitting to hear her theme.
@@XxCORERUPTORxX Exactly!
this entire video is a joke lmao he has no musical ear, that one trailer where he thought they used back to the future wasn't even in the same key
Hey Sideways, thanks for the shoutout! Always been a huge fan of your channel, and this was a great breakdown of trailer music.
EVERYONE GO CLICK ON THIS GUY'S CHANNEL
But for real dude I've been a long time fan, I love watching your score reductions!
@@Sideways440 dude
i've been wondering whether there were other music-based analysies on the youtube
THANK YOU
Me too!
That's epic man 👍
Haha remember when we were excited for The Rise of Skywalker 😂😂😭😭
You were?
Haha remember when Disney was a good company?
@@TheCarpenterUnion it’s just Star Wars, everything else was fine, it’s also Kathleen Kennedy, the force awakens had potential but they ruined it with last Jedi
@@henrystone6667 it ain't just star wars buddy. For example, live action Mulan was trash..
@@depthstriderbricksstudios2754 lol, I can agree and disagree at the same time, for example Falcon and the winter soldier, is a good show but (spoilers) they replaced cap with some bobo ass guy, but they have the bad batch coming and the mandolorian, which I personally liked
This tactic is also used in pop music. Some songs use the first measure of an older song to get people's attention.
For example, Pitbull's "Feel this Moment" uses an iconic tune from a-ha's "Take on me" about 30 seconds into it.
Classical composers have been doing this for hundreds of years. You didn’t think Siegfried’s Funeral March came out of thin air, did you?
All I can say is: Heart of Courage.
It's everywhere.
Or "Protectors of the Earth"
YES no matter how much you think Moving Mountains is used, you will never see it anywhere near as much as Heart of Courage. It was in a freaking NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC AD the other day!!!!
Also 2SFH lets goooo amazing music
I think it's kind of died down recently. Which I'm fine with, because stuff like My Freedom and Star Sky should be used more.
And "Nara."
I’ve heard “None shall live,” quite a bit.
With the lord of the rings, Howard Shore had to write and compose music to an incomplete movie. Scenes hadn't even been filmed yet and he had already written scores, hoping they'd tie in okay. It turned out to be a masterpiece.
No better film composer than Howard Shore or score than LOTR. Amazing development and interweaving, and not a bit of cheating in the themes' composition (although PJ decided to cheat with the music a couple times).
@@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303
I would argue that *overall* John Williams is better, but for a single score LotR *definitely* takes the cake.
I simply can't think of enough of Howard Shore's other work to call him the absolute best.
Whereas everyone can identify at *least* a handful of Williams.
He was obviously a book fan. A lot of the tracks have the exact same titles as the book chapters. ("The Treason of Isengard," "The Breaking of the Fellowship," etc.) The movie may not have been finished, but he knew the story and the characters well enough that he could work around that.
I want Sideways to do an appreciative look at Howard Shore's music for the LoTR movies!
Lot of great movie scores in the 2000s. Pirates and Narnia have excellent scores too.
I spent years exclaiming “It’s that song they use in all the trailers! No I don’t know which ones, just... trailers!” to bewildered friends and family before I finally decided to track down My Name is Lincoln. I was on the edge of my seat hoping you’d mention it!
And incidentally, I’m pretty sure the main reason it keeps getting used is because it slaps.
My dad was watching “On Her Majesties Secret Service” and my first thought was “the theme sounds exactly like The Incredibles”
"I have the Jedi in sight"
"You may fire when ready, Tie Pilot"
"Oooor I could run her over"
He's battlefront player
I think it's pretty obvious that it's Kylo in the ship... Yes, the main antagonist of the sequel trilogy is going to simply shoot at one of the main protagonists, because that's incredibly dramatic and makes for a good story.
No Kylo is training Rey
Maybe his guns got destroyed in a dog fight or something
Hence... TRAILER... it trill people.. it not about what the movie is about just the feeling of what it could had been..
Movies: Music comes last.
Supergiant Games: Lets write the music in pre-alpha.
WB Games: Let's reuse this Batman music.
Yes!!! Freaking Supergiant Games knows what's up when it comes to music. Transistor still had one of my favorite soundtracks
Interstellar: Let's do it while not telling the composer wtf our movie is about, that will do!
and we are thankful for it, that soundtrack SLAPS
I listen to the Pyre soundtrack every day!
Every Triumvirate (each group of exiles) has their own music theme! I used to listen to Bastion’s soundtrack just as much, and Transistor is also great
Here's the conversation that happened, so people stop theorizing reasons:
"Hey, we want to use Leia's theme somewhere in the trailer"
"Cool, but it's kind of a love theme and we don't have any lovey-dovey bits in this one"
"Can you make it sound more epic?"
"Sure man"
"Sweet, thanks"
You're forgetting the sixth way to score a movie trailer: just do a bunch of scary or ambient sounds like the 1979 Alien trailer, or no music and just foley sounds (this might count as scoring your own trailer but whatever).
mr. dilone good trailers are dead. That no longer exists.
THIS is how much music affects your experience.
I was following along listening to you explain this stuff until...
3:14 hits and so do the feels.
It's the only song that gives me goosebumps.
"It's also kind of the Ewok theme."
*Proceeds to play a single note held for like, 4 seconds*
Josh Sabin I know right how is that a theme
I saw it as both.
There's a lower melody going on in there.
You clearly missed it then.
Pretty sure the intended focus was the lower melody, which indeed sounds like Dies Irae and Kylo's theme.
Leia’s theme is the classic heart string of Star Wars
Days of Future Past had a tremendous example of licensed music; super effective and evocative.
Holy shit, the University I applied to last week used Renegade in its student work reel
SmexyRula
Ok
Don't go to uni, you're gonna fuck over yourself in the future with debt if you don't have a scholarship.
@@privatetrash2810 what if they live in a country that doesn't milk you of all your penny's for a degree?
Renegade from WCW who tried to be a fake Ultimate Warrior?
And then committed suicide?
@@privatetrash2810 we live in a big world and most of the internet users don't live in the usa so chances are high that he can go to univerity for free. Especially since I remember that americans normally call it college.
So as long as he doesn't live in the usa or a country with similar uni restrictions he is well advised to go to his university.
Was wearing headphones when dies irae came on
Thought oh the satanic cult one floor above is starting early today
r/HolUp
Jesus christ I took my earphones out scared
Please elaborate
...what...?
Please show me when i had to paused to video and look where is this part
I freaking love "my name is Lincoln." I randomly found it one day going through spodify because I like sound tracks by steven jablonski and then when I randomly heard it in the avatar trailer and I was so confused because I knew for a fact he didn't score avatar. This video cleared up a lot of confusion for me. I learned something new.
"Doesn't sound like the maestro himself..."
Maybe because this version is more of a remix or tribute to John Williams' original, scored by a guy named Samuel Kim (google him - great stuff)
Wait he made that I guess that does make sense
I think Leia's theme was a perfectly appropriate choice for the star wars trailer
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I can understand your pov, but it personally really bothered me that they took her theme and visually (re)associated it with characters mostly unrelated to her and a trilogy that wasn't "her" story (the way the original trilogy was her, Luke and Han's story). It felt like a slap in the face, that they took that from her and recycled it. They didn't do that to the others (aside from, weirdly enough, the ewoks).
I also get, though, that her theme is the most gentle/ nostalgic sounding of the main instantly-recognizable themes, and if they wanted to play on that, they had limited recycleable options. But -- still, it was recycling.
It was not only taking from the individuality of Leia's story-elements (and really, recycling Carrie's character's theme isn't a charming tribute, imo), and not only a blatant attempt to tug on my wallet through my heart, but it was also just... effing *lazy* of them. It's quite likely the last SW movie, moviemakers -- put some effort into it! Into at least the trailer, for fricks' sake... y'know?
@@iprobablyforgotsomething it was all about nostalgia. I didn't like the movie, I think it's worst than episode 1 and 2, but it's ok. But I am really disappointed with the soundtrack. You can say anything about the movies, but you must respect the musics. I have a special feeling for Star Wars soundtrack. It's sacred to me, just like the Force. And they just ignores all the meanings behind it, recycling everything.
@@mrliteral9347 Agreed. If only the movie had lived up to the trailer music.
Two Steps from Hell’s stuff from their album Invincible was everywhere in the early 2010s.
Made me think I was going crazy when I was 12 cuz nobody else seemed to notice
And now like they're being used less. Which is odd, because I feel like they've gotten better.
FlyingFocs They’re getting more recognition through their album releases now. Their UA-cam page just hit 1M subs.
Suns and Stars by RSM was popping up everywhere two yeras ago too
FlyingFocs yeah I've been a long time fan of them and I always thought that was odd because imo their music got more interesting since invincible although I still like the album
Right now Audiomachine is being more used.
"new trailer"
in 2020 this is a myth
As a trailer composer, I can attest that most (if not all) of these re-uses of production music are strictly due to convenience. Trailers usually need music within 2-3 days, so hiring a custom score from a composer is extremely risky and far more expensive than licensing a production track that the editors can cut directly to. I’ve seen a handful of my production tracks used across hundreds of projects, often completely unrelated (trailers, TV commercials, UA-cam videos, etc). The film industry operates at a breakneck speed, so music for films & trailers follows suit!
This trailer was very clearly a tribute to Leia/ Carrie Fisher. I'm not sure using this trailer to get your point across was a good idea. Could have easily used sonic the hedgehog or something that makes more sense.
yeah its clearly using leias theme here, although his point still stands i guess
I literally came here to say this. It's Leia's theme. Sheesh, for a film score guy he totally failed on this one.
@@laner.845 Yeah, I was like, what's the problem? They used actual themes from the original series... Leia's theme was perfect for this trailer. :/
You guys missed the point. He clearly knows it's Leia'a theme. His point isn't that it's not an original piece; it's that you associate that piece with something nostalgic and it manipulates you into feeling nostalgic watching the trailer
It is Leia's theme, that was known and shown at around 1:45 (I think) when he showed the breakdown someone did of the themes in the trailer. Leia's theme playing was clearly significant and intentional. The very end of the trailer, however, was a combination of the latin theme of death, kylo ren's theme, and the ewoks' themes, which don't have any signifacance together, just sound nostalgic. Yes, the pieces were original to the franchise, but kind of just combined to create a feeling of Star Wars-y nostalgia. That's why he goes through examples of movies who steal music from other movies to convey nostalgic emotion, or use stock music to convey a general emotion. These are all ways of how trailer scores are created to "trick" us, or make us feel something. At least I think, that's how I took it.
It's like with fan music videos. When I discover a new song through one of these, I will forever associate them with the franchise which was the video for.
For example, that gangster's paradise sonic amv
"he wrote the music but didnt arrange it"
Holst wrote the music, and Williams rearranged it ;p
Bahahaha correct! And Dvorak wrote the theme to Jaws, and Williams rearranged that too!
@@mariecarie1 Williams basically has copied too many composers and rEaRrAnGeD them
Wait, THE Gustav Holst?
I always thought that "The Island", while not the best movie, was very much underrated.
Anyone remember that Man Of Steel teaser with the Gandalf death music?
Willy pls Good trailer though. Good movie too.
Yea it was freaking awesome
Just went to check it out since I didn't remember.
Man, that wasn't event trying to be close to subtle...
Link....
That's what I was thinking of! I kept hoping he would use that as an example, especially since a lot of people loved that trailer and didn't even know that the song was from LOTR
Video: Did anybody else hear the new Star Wars trailer? [plays trailer]
Me: That wasn't the music on the trailer.
Video: BUT THIS WASN'T THE ACTUAL TRAILER MUSIC!
Same! Maybe I've seen the trailer too many times
Nosher02 nope. I’ve only seen it once. Very obvious switch.
Right? One of the most trending trailers around and he thought we wouldn't notice he changed the music drastically? "Aha! I tricked you! That wasn't the music in the trailer!"....Umm, we know.
Not to mention that the music in the trailer is fucking amazing. Haven't heard a single complaint until this guy.
I've only seen the new Star Wars trailer once in theater when I was waiting for Endgame to start. I was talking to my family at the time so I was very distracted but even I remember that the music was different. I can't imagine anyone who's seen the trailer at least once not noticing the change in music.
Title: how trailer music tricks you
What i hear: STAR WARS STAR WARS
Ah, 2019. The last year we were able to watch movies at theatres.
I literally get goosebumps EVERY TIME I hear the Avengers Endgame Theme
i literally haven't seen it and that alone was enough to give me goosebumps lol
Came back to this video and omg same!
The music is literally leia's theme and they used it because Carrie Fisher passed away
Edit: thanks for the likes it's the most I've ever got
Sure buddy as if they gave a fuck about anything but money
okay okay Who hurt you
@@ryanleadbitter7749 Disney star wars
@@chillisauce3492 lol so right
@@chillisauce3492 FYI: Just because that's why they did it, doesn't mean it isn't still about money. They choose to use Leia's theme because Carrie Fisher passed away and doing so will generate more artificial sympathy and feelings and associations so they can...capitalize on the maximum profit by using Fisher's death to its maximum potential. Just like they did in the film itself.
6:54 "Sounds an awful lot like Sad But True by Metallica but isn't"
*literally plays Sad But True with one note changed*
I’m going to miss going to the theatre every Christmas to watch a Star Wars movie whether it’s a sequel or not
another good example of #4 is when DC used the Gandalf's Death soundtrack from Fellowship of the Ring in one of the trailers for Man of Steel
Clint Mansell's Lux Aeterna from "Requiem for a Dream".
& John Murphy's Adagio in D Minor from "Sunshine".
I've heard in so many trailers.
Lux Aeterna is exactly the one I went to. THE 'epic movie trailer' song.
Yep. Was literally about to say the same thing.
"Say Something" by A Great Big World
+Zack Hemsey's The Way & Mind Heist.
I specifically bought the Two Towers soundtrack as a kid trying to find that song. @@tarmil
I binged all ur videos and now I can instantly recognise every leitmotif in Star Wars. I feel much more educated
I like this really deep dive into how trailer music works, from the trends to what works and what doesn't. I had no idea there was a whole industry behind just making trailers, i always assumed that the studios made the trailers themselves.
Did anyone else immediately notice that he was playing an edited version of the trailer?
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Beniamin Croitor r/ihavereddit
100%, his edit felt kinda off. No bamboozle this time.
Well ofcourse if I would have seen the trailer before.
You know most people can think and remember stuff.
Bernd Arndt, the trailer is pretty cringy, so you'd be forgiven for not remembering/realizing it was different.
I mean, they play Princess Leia’s theme because this is the last movie that Carrie Fisher will ever star in and is trying to make you sad that she is dead.
The Force Awakens used the force theme because...do I need to explain this?
So overall, I think that the marketing people did a half decent job of coordinating the music.
Also he missed out the kylo rens theme at the end gets a major progression, aka, kylo rens the hero, hes the skywalker that rises
This video was such a waste of time...
@SpiritWolf2K No, he says its a mix of kylo rens theme and the wookies, and them makes a shitty joke on "iF I DoNt sEe wOkIeS" and never said anything about the resolution changing to major
The trailer music was Princess Leia’s theme, this piece of John Williams music has been around since 1977
i LOVE watching the trailers before a movie starts, and this video just gave me a whole new reason to understand why that is! thank you so much for sharing!
Yep, the OG force theme is far better
Definitely no bias as a horn player
don't know if it's a bias, the orchestration of film tracks nowadays usually feels ... "blended".
instead of a solo horn, or each instruments doing their own thing, it's more common to see a lots of instruments playing a melody together, making a more blended texture.
I like this new one
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I don't see why they have to be compared. Different uses for different situations.
What about the requiem for a dream theme? Been used in trailers so many times
JonathanElliotMay Right up there with Dragonheart and Goonies.
More specifically, the arrangement titled "Requiem For a Tower." First used in the LotR: The Two Towers trailers.
The Requiem For a Dream theme is title "Lux Aeterna" and sounds very different, both tonally and instrumentally.
check out the third movement of Rachmaninoff's First Suite: ua-cam.com/video/QfXKKLqpVi4/v-deo.html . It seems the bare bones of the requiem for a dream theme was written 100 years before requiem for a dream!
The theme that everyone knows from Requiem for a Dream is Clint Mansell's Lux Aeterna: originally composed for 2001: A Space Odyssey. And yeah...it's been used *everywhere*. Mostly because everyone knows it immediately, but not where it came from. It's particularly useful in trailers because it's easy to fade into, or stitch with other music. Requiem for a Dream uses it, because the poem "Lux Aeterna" is from the Latin Requiem Mass: which the title is of course referring to. This is a mass sung for the souls of the dead, with a special liturgy. Basically every composer worth their salt since Mozart has composed music for this mass, even if just for shits and giggles. Mozart's and Mansell's remain the most commonly used though.
Clint Mansell's Lux Aeterna is Library music. I used it for a school project once, alongside Mozart's Lux Aeterna and a couple of versions of Dies Irae (another poem from the Requiem Mass). I was making a trailer for a theoretical movie of A Canticle for Liebowitz, using ripped footage of course as it was just for school.
I can't even count how many times I've heard the inception sound on a movie trailer.
"Its gonna remind audiences of past films, and hopefully remind them of why they like the franchise in the first place" and them crush all of those fellings in three movie length torture sessions
This whole video just reminds me of that video that's like "if Harry Potter was a teen comedy" and they've edited a lot of the school scenes together with a pop punk track playing underneath 😂
Try watching editing is everything: ___ in 7 different genres. It really brings it to light
@@shadow_shine3578 I've seen those! So good
@@Amazatastic agreed
Link?
@@irongirltoni ua-cam.com/video/c_ubmjE21SY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=pleiades14
Michael Giacchino wrote the best Bond music that wasn't in a bond film.
Agreed. And I, for one, knew its trailer music was the theme from HHMSS from the very first viewing. I was stoked about super hero secret agents.
Yeah, that was a great score. Fit the tone of the movie perfectly.
Michael Giacchino is impressively adaptive. Back in the 2000s he was known for The Incredibles and Lost, two totally different genres and music types. Now he did Rogue One and it has its own themes, but it fits in with the musical landscape of Star Wars perfectly. That's part of what made that movie so good when other stuff from Star Wars post-Disney hasn't been that great.
I really really love trailer music and I'm just so pleased you highlighted some of my favourites
The research put into this is phenomenal!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Far From Home trailer after you ranted on Twitter about how great it was.
I actually kinda disappointed
This and the fact he didn't talk about the incredible use of themes in endgame
@@whalesharko4465 I mean he hadn't seen it when recording this, he'll probably talk about Endgame later.
As a trailer music composer i can say: It´s all about being creative and doing stuff that kinda noone heard before.
(Sorry for my english)
First of all trailers are composed and produced a bit differently than movie scores because you have to follow a structure most of the time. You have to know where to place edit points for the editor so he can change and combine the cue with other SFX or tracks. Moreover the music has to be massive but simple in many cases so there´s a place for dialogue on top of it which isn´t always that important in music for films.
Another thing is that the trailer genre is a huge thing itself. Many people watch trailers nowadays because they enjoy them as much as watching a movie. Every production studio wants to create something special and new to entertain and build up a hype. if they just take the music as it is from the movies it wouldn´t fit, it wouldn´t be so polished and massive with all those fx and it wouldn´t deliver such a hype. I´m not saying trailer music is better than movie scores but it´s the same with cars: You can drive with a twingo through a desert but it makes more sense to use an offroad vehicle. If trailer music would be used in movies you´d get a headache after an hour because of all the impact sounds, booms, hits, swooshes etc.
Another point is "time": composers who get a so called "custom job" for creating music for a movie studio only have a very small amount of time for creating a new cue/cover/remix. I was involved in a pitch for (i´m not allowed to say it yet hehe) but i had only 24 hours to create a cue. Sometimes it´s just 12 or even 8h. And i´m talking about composing AND mixing AND mastering. Then those supervisors compare it with other cues which are written in parallel by other composers and if you´re lucky enough they will take your version. I think because of the time pressure noone has that much time to think about every single note in a composition. You don´t even write while you watch the trailer. They ask for music and THEN edit the clips over your music.
But all in all everything that just sounds great, massive and new will be used, no matter if its musically correct or not.
I hope i could give you an additional insight into trailer music :)
Hope you all have a great start into the week!
Andy
Better explanation then the video buddy, great job
@@oreganopotatohead8901 Thanks :)
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Your English is better than a large percentage of native English speakers. You're doing great! Also, thank you for your insights.
@@AngeloBarovierSD Thanks you very much! And you´re welcome :)
This is probably the most calm of your videos.
I must be the only one, but even after a decade I know EXACTLY which scene that song plays in for The Island (IMO best scene of movie).
I used to love it when I was a kid and clearly the music impacted that a lot- as it’s usage transcends the film. Very cool!
Not just you :)
The thumbnail looked to me like Rey was getting pierced by one of the wings of the star fighter. 😂😂
Russ Piano I thought this would be the top comment for sure
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Two Steps From Hell has perhaps some of my favorite epic music, including moving mountains at 11:00 Audiomachine is good too, but Two Steps From Hell is better, creating stories with music. Even if it is just production music, it's damn good music.
Yes, I absolutely love two steps from hell! Thomas Bergerson is a genius
@Nicholas Estrada ah yes, thank you!
There are so many that are good now. Brand X,. Epic Score, X Ray Dog, Immediate Music, Secession Studios and Really Slow Motion to name a few.
Damn you and your incredibly analytical and strangely interesting rants. I've been watching your videos for three hours and i cant stop watching them,,,,,
3:35 I watched a video with an edit where Rey doesn’t jump high enough and she gets splattered on the tie. Every time I see the this scene I always think that that’s going to happen.
I saw the Godzilla trailer with Clair de Lune and it gave me teary eyes. I hate it for it cuz I know what they're doing too, even at the time.
Sir Cerolean something about that piece always gets me emotional. ALWAYS. I mean it's probably association to works I've heard it in but I have no specific memories
@@rooditooti4388 Yeah, nothing in the trailer was supposed to be emotional, either. At least, nothing visual.
There are those who say it's overused.
For me, It was the perfect choice. Something to match the grandeur and scale of what it's selling, it was well utilised.
My favorite usage of _Clair de Lune_ was in the game _The Evil Within_ 👌 They added some strings to it which made it even more emotional. Now when I hear it without strings, I feel like something is missing 🤷♂️
ua-cam.com/video/BsraWujqP40/v-deo.html
Doesn’t change the fact that Godzilla 2 will fail critically and financially and cancel the franchise. Good riddance.
That music at the end is from a new hope when Luke finds aunt beru’s and uncle owen’s corpses
Very appropriate 👌
that’s dies irae
As Brennan Siemens said, both are referencing the same melody, the Dies Irae Gregorian chant from the middle ages - Latin for “Day of Wrath”.
i litrally just found your channel and i already love it
Wow! This was a really well put together video. Great work!
leia's theme is by far my favorite theme throughout the whole star wars franchise. i loved how its main leia leitmotif evolved into the love theme in the empire strikes back, and i straight up sobbed when i heard it in the end theme of the last jedi. thats how much i treasure it, but by gosh, i dont understand why it keeps on being used against ships flying about, etc. one can argue that this literally just represents the cause leia believed in -- the resistance, and the rebellion -- but honestly, i just don't want the theme to be associated with anything other than leia. so i guess that ends my rant
I don't want to seems like a bitch or whatever but Leia's theme and the force theme where the only ones (from what I can remember) that have always made me cry. Leia's one especially after Carrie passed away. RIP to our dear space princess
bb. She should totally be a Disney Princess. She passed every test for them, except that Disney didn’t own Star Wars when it started. But she is a lead role in a first movie, not a sequel, she is adopted royal, which should count, and she made a TON of money, so she passes that.
'Sounds like kilo ren is going to lead a death cult of ewoks'
Now that's a movie idea
KYLO REN leads a death cult of Ewoks: A Star Wars Story
I’m glad you acknowledged #5, a lot of people don’t think it’s an issue but it is
i like the trailer music. i like how it sounds adventurous and epic. i want them on a soundtrack that i can listen to non-stop.
- Run! It's Gozilla
- It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright laws is not
- Still we should run like it is Gozilla!
- But it isn't
(I dunno why I thought about that scene by the end of this video)
VeRy ShAgAdELiC baaaabbby!