Just How Different Is Formula E Gen3?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- It feels like we've been talking about Formula E Gen3 for forever now, and with the promise of lighter, faster, more powerful cars, the anticipation from teams, drivers and fans in terms of whether it'll improve the racing is high. But like any major regulation change, there's been a lot of work going on behind the scenes in order to get to this point.
To find out what Nissan and its partners like Shell have been doing behind the scenes to get ready for Gen3.
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Ahh..finally found Otmar Szaufners Long lost French brother!
"Finally..."
Spot on! 😄
I think the total power is 350 kw, the 600 kw are the ones of regen power
Yeah the driving power.
Supposedly the MGU on the regen axle can be used for power as well, as is in the name but front motor as of now, is only being used for regen.
Yea that makes more sense 600kw is insane
I feel like Gen 3 was designed only so they could advertise 200mph.
At least the low df should help dirty air, although I don’t think they had a problem with that before.
Gen 2 cars look better then gen 3. It looks like a Dorito Just saying.
but the dorito is way lighter
The racing has been great so far this year. I love that these cars are very different than F1 cars. The car seems hard for the drivers, which might not be fun for them, but is interesting to learn about and watch.
And yet, despite the pronounced power-to-weight ratio improvement, it is BARELY any faster than the gen 2 in pre-season testing. This is likely down to the thoroughly mediocre Hankook tires, but it's a long way from the promised performance improvement.
Yeah, the tyres are super hard - Hankook have done exactly as they've been asked (a tyre that'll last a whole race distance in all weathers). I would absolutely love FE to have slick tyres - but I'm not holding my breath on that
Yeah. I wish they'd make a shift to semi slick rubber. AW sucks and yeah, at this point it's safe to say, this early on, I did expect Hankook to have some struggles getting up to speed but this is just bad. What a fail by FE there.
You're missing the point. The aim was to maintain the performance whilst reducing weight and reducing the battery size.
Compare the current gen 3 stats with the first gen 2 pre-season tests, not with how fast gen 2 ended up at the end of last year. Gen 3 will improve a lot over the course of multiple seasons.
@@procatprocat9647 maintaing the performance? That would suck.
video is good...but why is she dancing all the way 😂
To distract from the tricorn car...
If they can sort out reliability, the series will be amazing to watch
Deleting the rear brakes is inspired. Hope to see that on road cars soon
Kind of already happening? VW puts rear drum brakes on many evs, the only thing preventing them from removing it altogether is that we as drivers aren't yet used to using regen
@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 so it's been happening for over 100 years because drum brakes have been fitted to the rear of cars? 🤣
Drum brakes are about as effective as discs to stop a vehicle. They only struggle with repeated use due to overheating, hence finned drums.
Irrespective, fitting drums has nothing to do with the concept of deleting the rear brakes. Nothing at all.
People don't know/care if their throttle has a mechanical cable or just an electric one with no physical linkage whatsoever. There's no reason for them to care if the rear brakes are mechanical or electrical, particularly as the main brakes on the front remain mechanical.
@@procatprocat9647 Regen feels a lot different than brakes and if you were in the dealership instead of internet you'd see and hear the same feedback as I do. I don't know in what world you live but in mine drum brakes have significantly less stopping power than discs. Going back to drums is a sign that rear stopping power is getting less important yes, and when regulation will be ready for it we'll see them removed as well on some cars.
@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 Incorrect. my car has regen and I thoroughly enjoy adjusting the settings on the fly, to optimise for the traffic and road details. Its a form of hypermiling which I do for the challenge.
I know how brakes feel, you fool. Drums can be just about as powerful as discs if they're of similar size and quality. They fade, that's their issue.
You seem to think that owners can't deal with vehicle developments. I can assure you that a full electric car feels very different to drive from a hybrid and poles apart from an ICE. Electric car sales are ramping up almost too quickly for the infrastructure to cope with. Owners are lapping up the changes, even with the considerable recharging problems that are heavily discussed all over the planet!
The nissan looks more like a Ferrari than Ferrari
I Just can't. It's a damn triangle with fins.
Its pointy and scary
What just like what the dictator teach us
It looks so ugly
It might look a bit strange, but with those figures it's probably the first time ever you can call the Formula E car a real racecar.
Fax
Nah Gen 1 is still faster than your street car
1) The continuing refusal - even with this 200mph car - to move at least some races to (F1) race-tracks is absurd.
2) Battery-swapping pit-stops: although battery-swapping is still a pretty silly idea for consumer EVs - it should have been built into this Gen3 F3 race car. Especially given that EV manufacturers like NIO can now auto-swap large consumer EV battery-packs in just 30 seconds(!!). We could have much longer, much faster, far more epic and exciting track battles out on real, wide race-tracks - and battery-swap pit-stops would add much-needed drama and tension to races. But it's clear that the FIA and F1's powerful overlords and other F1-related vested interests still don't want to see Formula E and battery-power rivalling - or heaven forbid - overtaking F1 and fossil fuel in terms of mainstream audience appeal/numbers.
So we're stuck with ultra-fast, high-performance - but still strait-jacketed - next-gen Formula E race-cars largely still constricted and restricted to narrow city streets unable to show their full F1-rivalling power+speed+range+overtaking capability and potential. Tragic.
Paul G(EVUK)
I want to like the look of these, but I just don't. The design is such a mess, and for no apparent reason, as aero isn't a factor in this series. They could have done a lot better job.
boat with wheels.
Every time there is a change I look forward to the brave new world then fall asleep when the racing starts. Lets hope its better this time of course better tracks with less crashing would make for better races.
If they really care about the environment, stop letting oil and gas companies sponsor Formula e teams.
Formula E cars have been becoming more and more like drag racing cars over the generations. I wonder how much that contributes to efficiency gains. I do like the racing though.
Damn Gen 2 had waaaaaaaayyyyy cooler looking cars tho
Formula E went lighter and smaller, take notes F1
Hope they can race, and not 1/4 acceleration, coast 2/4, and brake 1/4 on the straight.
-Formula E is about conservation and renewable energy.
*burning gas torches in the background*
As thousands of hectares of rainforests are being cleared and destroyed in the name of EV growth. Disgusting.
The information is wrong. The front motor provides 250kw of regen power but does not provide power to the wheels. The rear provides 350kw of regen (600kw total) and power to the rear tyres only. The horsepower is roughly 470.
Whom is the host/presenter she looks familiar?
sorry no rear brakes?
I'd like to see formula E on more conventional tracks and I hope that this tech pushes them to that direction. Interesting to see no rear brakes affect driveability under braking when attacking corners. Maybe a change in driving technique.
Also I haven't seen much Jess since WTF1 but she looks great and has put on weight in all the right places. Keep crushing it, Jess.
Do those nose wings do anything at all?
And only 9 months later, not even the steering wheel is the same anymore. 😊
I can guarantee you there is no way to sustainably use natural rubber for all tires on the road.
Maybe one day we'll have the technology to have a proper electric racing series instead of this battery saving formula on low speed tracks.🤞
front motor doesn't output power, so the 600kw power output is a lie.
I cannot design it uglier even if I tried. And these road-relevant tires are a yoke! Come on, this series travels just as much as F1, the co2-reduction of these durable tires is negligible, the cars are already laughably slow in the straights, at least they should have some proper sticky slicks for those short races
Car looks awesome,though no where near as much as you do Jess!! 😍
Very ugly car it's like a triangle kit car !
The gen 2 cars were better looking.
@ 1:38 No rear brake 🤔🤔
Could not do the drifting styles
.. " Nanni "🙄 🤣🤣
But why RC car can do Drifting without rear breaking?🤔
people still care about this series?
Oh yes. Get back under your rock!
Oh yes indeed
She’s good looking 😊
No one cares about formula e
Why the hate towards Formula E my guy? Sure the racing can be a bit dirty knce jn a while aince contact is legal but at least it can produce better racing than Formula 1
@@Sky_Ticktum_ if you aren't rubbing you aren't racing, don't have fun watching the races, only enjoy a top 10
You cared enough to spend time and energy to type that.
@@whiteandnerdytuba mate your in deniel
Many nobodies does care mate.
Christ, this motorsport series is just so lame.
It's everything traditional motorsports isn't. Corporate funded instead of grassroots, efficiency focused instead of performance focused.
Its just fundamentally flawed and it will never be popular. Nothing that people love has ever come from corporations trying to manufacture something.
Except that it will be more relavent to the future than F1
Motorsports are rarely grassroots, race cars are expensive to build and maintain and there aren't enough grassroots/working class motorsport enthusiasts that we can just crowd-fund an entire series, at least not until we get more wages, rights and free time.
@@benfarrow9498once the public realizes that the toxic batteries in EVs are more damaging to the environment, even the politicians can’t hide it anymore. Oh and when you have EVs spontaneously combusting on the road and emit hydrogen cyanide, people can’t hide that forever as well.
I’m the first person to comment
I had battery cars as a child…grown out of them…boring
Had ignorant friends as a kid. Grew out of that, boring.
Formula E = Formula sh... ;)
Jess mcthicf1
Just piss off, learn some respect🙄
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