[Guide] - Diablo 2 - MF Hammerdin Paladin
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- This is my guide for a Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction Magic Finding Hammerdin. There are a variety of options here to run through including hoto, hoz, exile, chanceys, mage fist, shako, and more. Obviously the setup I gave is just one of many setups but the general idea is to give some thoughts around how you should think when building a hammerdin!
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So I been playing diablo 2 since it first came out in 99. I was 4 years old and I just hit potions for my dad as he killed mobs. Since d2r came out I felt like that experience really has been resurrected as I am a father to a 6 month boy now and I'm 26 years old now. Shout out to Mrllama for these videos you have been a big part of this re experience thank you
My dad introduced d2lod to me as well he would buy my gg gear and we would run duels together I was like 8 or 9 lol
i literally just started one a few days ago im so happy :D i love seeing updated guides, thanks monsieur llama
still playin?
Lovin' the guides! Thanks!
In my off hand I just upgraded my gull dagger for a blade of ali ababa with an ist rune in it for my hammerdin whoop whoop! Thank you griswald even in death you still help me out bro! (He dropped the ali blade for me)
I'd say for an MFer spirit is WAY better because your map movement speed is essential. Boss kill speed is already insane on a hammerdin, even on p8 with average gear. Plus in big picture terms you're always kind of fighting RNG. Doesn't matter if you have a better chance for items to roll rare/unique if not as many items are dropping because you're slow therefore doing fewer runs. I figure you're looking for that golden mean of highest MF with the fastest map navigation speed. More runs produces higher chances of the items you actually want to drop, then the mf increases the chance of them rolling unique. Plus with MF's diminishing returns and blah blah blah
I'd say 125 is the goal but 75 can be reached with just Hoto (40) & spirit (35) then everything else can go into MF for that option. For the 125 MFer best is Wiz (50) + Spirit (35) + 2 of either (Arach (20) + Ammy (20) + Mage/Trang (20) + (20) Circlet w/ mf + x2 10 FCR rings) with stacked MF gear on switch for boss. i.e. ist'd crystal, baba, ist'd pally shield ect. Then using charms with MF, FHR, resistances & skillers to compensate for the damage dip for using FCR/MF focused gear.
The 55% FHR on spirit is insane and most people never mention or consider that as a factor. For example, with Spirit and (+3 12%FHR GC's) or (+2 GC and +2 5%SC's) you've hit the best you can feasibly do with the 86% break point. Even without charms hitting that 48% with only one item is insane and opens up other slots. I mean, FHR isn't essential for PvM (especially 86%) but it helps for when you're hit by random mobs on the way to bosses and for boss killing. Not to mention the +2 skills, 80 to all res in everything except fire and a massive +105 mana pool boost that helps a lot.
Currently I think you have zero fhr which is a bit of an oversight because even just 20 gives you 2 frame (9-7) but the problem is anywhere that gives FHR are key item slots for MF or FCR. Boots, Gloves, Belt & Helm. You could always sheal your helm but why not ist it? So I guess charms? See that's why I figure spirit is easily the best because why not switch out HoZ for a shield that basically does the exact same thing + (FHR, mana and FCR) all things we desperately need on a caster MFer.
HoZ does help with block chance though (so why no holy shield then??? Its really it's only advantage...) but it's only by 12% because a sacred targe is 60% BC while HoZ i.e. gilded shield is 72 (52+20) and in the end getting enough dex for max block really isn't that much of a sacrifice to life and is totally worth it. You might think that 30% FBR helps on HoZ but holy sheild's FBR puts you instantly at 2 frames at 0 FBR and 1 frame at 86. I don't know if it's possible to get 86 in the game? And no matter what 2 frames is INSANE. Without Holy shield it does make a difference but the minimum is 5 frames so you're pretty much fine unless you're rolling with 86 FHR in which case you might want your FHR and FBR to be on par at 4 frames or just get the damn skill... no matter what I'd recommend max block holy shield because if you get hit by mobs and block you get a 2 frame animation which is nothing.
In the end the hammerdin will always be the little brother to the sorc for MF.
Pally: 10 frames (75) 9 frames (125)
Sorc: 9 frame (63) 8 frames (105)
You have to basically cripple the pally to get to the speed of a sorc with only spirit and one 20% fcr item. Not to mention telekinesis, static field and cold mastery being op for map navigation/boss kill speed and you don't need enigma. Most of the reason why you mf is because you can't afford HR's.
Only advantage is defense, max block and they share the BEST FHR scaling (along with barbs and Assassins). THEREFORE!! Why not get to that 4 or 5 frame fhr, holy shields FBR and max block since it's the only damn thing this guy can do better than a sorc...
Yeah its a garbage video and a garbage build. But you should make your own video, instead of posting an essay here. Your info is spot on.
Ich think you should always have 1 point in holy shield, just to get the frames per block down to 2. Even with no point in dex at all you will still block a lot with endgame gear, so holy shield will save you time blocking, even though it increases the block percentage.
Also, Hotspur are pretty nice endgame boots. As well as some other boots, but Hotspurs get overlooked the most :-)
hoz, the ultimate hammerdin trap
For amulet there is a 2 paladin skills and 1-2 to defence auras that can be decent early. Question is it worth going for the 125 FCR break point? Right now with hoto, max spirit shield (42 all rez pala shield), mage fist and arach, I'm missing 10 fcr so swapping ravenfrost or maras amu for something with at least 10 fcr wouldn't be that hard to do.
would've been useful guide for me 13 years ago
laaal :D
get back, pal
i did; still having the best time ever
@@isuckatthisgame hell yeah fresh ladder lets go!
New d2 updates with new skills is coming 4k graphics
Boy have I got some good news for you. =P
Hey there MrLlama!
Been watching your guides and I love them! Been hoping you'd post something along these lines for awhile now. My gf and I are going to start playing in the ladder tomorrow and I'm interested in playing a paladin with her sorceress. What build for paladin do you suggest for leveling purposes on the way up to becoming a hammerdin or smiter? Would you just follow those builds along the way or is something else stronger for the leveling process and making our way to hell?
Thanks and keep the awesome videos rolling!
Holy fire until you reach 18, then you can swap into hammerdin and go from there! If you want to be a smiter I would still suggest hammerdin early on until you get some gear later...but you can be a smiter if you have some help for damage like your gf's sorc. Hammerdin definitely strongest though to get through to hell.
I play d2 from 2003 to the 2010 and i only play Paladin. Ahhhh old good days and PvP duels whit my hammerdin 😊
i have a request can you do that in far oasis?
tunnel
Hi! How can I get ladder only runewords /anni/torch on single player? Not asking about pluggy mod. It seems he's not using pluggy bc his stash size and can't respec
Holy shield is a must at lvl 30, the whole 4 point setback is nothing at lvl 77 for your damage output. Even if you get bug rushed, it's still worth the defence to prioritize.
always go for 125% FCR on a hammerdin, its so much faster and the dps on bosses is actually higher even with the lower damage per hit all you really need to do is swap one ring for a 10fcr one and use spirit with 35 fcr
Good video, I really just came here for Nostalgia lol
Eth zodded HOZ? To think such a thing even exists...
Truly amazing
oki thank you i was just wondering if i should go blessed hammer or vengeance. but oki i guess i just have to try my palladin out first and then do guide. and lv up and cedra. its my first time paladin and where alredy on Lut Gholein.
Is it really ok to disregard dex? Just compensate with item?
This guy looks like he's constantly about to crack up but can just barely hold in his laughter
He's just happy
Hi I need you help I play Barbarian I have 12 points to add I have 12 how much give points in swords becouse I be use swords and how much give points in shout ????
Upgraded Goldwrap, dosent that have 4 slots on potions? Should be better than tal belt. Also, if you are stuck on 75 FCR set-up for MF consider even more survival gear like dwarf ring, or maybe thundergods belt :)
haha ya the tal belt was just something I had. I would use goldwrap instead here on a budget build, good call
haha, thanks for reply even, you going strong my man! Have you considered doing more AOE2 content? I know its not quite a game you did much like Starcraft 2, but we could use your...personality, in the community. I don't think Ill ever stream etc, you need a good personality for that if you know what I mean...AOE2 gotten some good new activity last year alone (See TheViper on twitch or youtube etc)
I usually run defensive aura merc unless I'm melee then it's AR or might.
I would just like to say that I , personally, REALLY like having the max FCR breakpoint for a hammerdin, max fcr being 125. You can hit it without too much difficulties if you use a Spirit shield , HotO , Arach and one 10 fcr ring. A 20 fcr circlet or 20 fcr gloves to top it off and you should be good to go ! I think it makes teleporting ALOT more useful and the hammer rates are much faster. Thats just my opinion, but I find it alot more fun to play this character with max FCR.
That's definitely another way to play the character. I know a lot of people who run the 125 build!
@@MrLlamaSC hammer is a caster so he needs high fcr
Nice build for D2 Resurected. XD
im new to the game and ive been watching your speedruns a lot, but i want to know a quick way to level up and find gear?
I would say go watch my "Race with Teo" aka holy grail sorc. That's a char I built from scratch to lvl 97 with all but 19 items left to find.
did not get the two alternatives for "Enigma" plate. can someone please spell those out? Thanks in advance!
@@winkleberrygang lore runeword I came across in some other guide. Thanks for figuring out.
Is there a specific level boss that is optimal for farming nagels and chance guards?
Uhlbelk chancies and nagels arent as valuable as magefist / trang gloves with a raven frost + 1 fcr ring. Max block and 125 fcr are important.
Hi. I started just recently after years. Where can i find that amulet? can it be crafted? Thanks
yes that amulet was crafted
So how much dex exactly do you have to put in your char to get max block? I see a lot of videos that mention it but no one ever explains it fully.
Depends on the char, what shield, if you're using holy shield, etc. Just keep going until you hit it basically haha
@@MrLlamaSC Thanks for the response MrLlama, and despite what some say these guides are still helpful :)
Is it possible to find War Travs and Shaco on single player running Hell Meph on Players 2? I have about 250 MF right now.
Yep should be a decent spot for them!
Hey man I have been dying to get an arachnid mesh I know hell meph is best chance but I'm using my blizz sorc so what players setting should I put it on?
/players 3!
MrLlamaSC ok thank you very much
I can't remember but, isn't there a bug where off/def GC don't add the synergy bonuses? I know the pally boots with +2 vigor don't apply. Still shocked that 15 years later that never got fixed.
Only hard points count for those
So how did you get everything to make the enigma man? As in the runes, I can never get them to drop, also I'm on plugy thanks man.
I farm a LOT. I don't have enigma though just a few other GG runewords :D
Itz_x_ Salvation I use PlugY too. Do LK runs. This is the fastest way to get high runes. I've got my enigma after about 1500 LK runs.
I'd think outside of MF the ideal boots would be upped tearhaunch greaves because the 2 to vigor is going to increase your hammer damage.
it won't increase it actually. only hard points in synergies benefit
Whats the point of mf if your inventory is too full to pick up items.. Does that imply you need a bot or mule following you?
Can store them in cube or pick up the items when you really need them and stash stuff away
Personally I always preferred Wizpik with an ist rune over hoto for mf.
hell mode? is Nightmare or normal game
I remember I used to be RICH and started from nothing spending zero dollars because I was like 12, and my account got hacked and I remember it felt like the end of the world but then i actually started to enjoy starting over. Fun times
Dude, same. I was Bill Gates on closed. Woke up Christmas morning and found out my best friend got a computer for Christmas so he could finally play with me. Logged in to instantly make him rich as well to find my entire account hacked. Uninstalled the game in a fit of rage and tears and haven't played it since.
shako "ist", maras, eni, wizzy "ist", spirit ST 35fcr 45@, upped mages, soj, raven, arach, WT50, 3x PC skiller ....might merc with ebug treachery, gulli "cham", eth reapers "ber"
--> high dmg, fast immune killing, high mf, no mana problems
Guides are awesome but do some weird builds too
why not use spirit shield?
spirit shield is also a great choice here.
Nice you got my old throwaway account that got "scammed when I was a kid" Seed Values were here
"diablo 2 paladin username: anz_knight" as my FP resultsdrtx
Hi Azkichi~
Ask Chi or Ryoichi?
Bro how do you have 10k dmg with b. hammer. I have +12 on all skill and still have around 2k. what am i doing wrong?
You using your aura?
ya make sure you're using concentration
Shit I didn’t realize that I really needed all of that gear and stuff before I respeced. My character is pretty useless now, takes so much damage and runs out of mana really quick
The thing is, once you get to this gear level... what are you looking for? Minor gear increases is a tiring adventure for most.
can start looking for gear for other chars!
The guy has already a enigma with a HOTO and a HOZ at lvl 77 while im at lvl87 trying to find a vex rune for a HOTO with a ancients pledge and a spirit crystal sword😭😭😂
It is Plugy
Oh yeah forgot
How did you get the teleport skill bro ?
The enigma runeword on his chest armor gives the wearer +1 to teleport, meaning any class wearing it can cast teleport. There’s a few other runewords that allow you to use abilities from other classes.
how to get enigma in single player
Why you test build on normal? I want to see one build that you can do everything alone
It can do everything alone in hell, was just using normal for swapping some gear with mules
How he lvl 77 how he get all the gear from
Just transferred gear from other chars
Why blessed aim if you only attack with hammer spell?
BA adds hammer dmg, 14% per skill level, thats why 😂
Holy shit I miss this game. Can't wait for runewords to come back in D4.
Wiz pike is to cast 2 hammers with one cast
no holy shield??
Coming soon again 😃
where the hell did u get enigma? i bloody paid 1.4m for a 883 def 96% enhanced defence plate body
matt richardson he's done thousands of lower kurast runs and others and has found the runes Jah and Ber to make the runeword....ith rune is also needed but you'll find a billion of those before finding jah and ber.
Spirit is the best shield for hammer for the fcr dont understand why you use zaka.....
i started of at lvl 1 then after like 2 days of grinding i got to lvl 30+ then i started doing baal runs til 50+ pretty helpful
faster castrate? :D
How do you hit anything with those hammers?
just know the path and let them hit away!
@@MrLlamaSC they.....they never hit..... Maybe I just suck ':-)
MrLlama in your opinion what is the most efficient way to find the runes for Enigma in single player?
Lower Kurast Super Chest runs probably. He did a vid on that a while ago.
def LK runs. Should take about 50-60 hours I think to get Jah and Ber (You'll have to morph runes up)
MrLlamaSC thanks man. Thanks for taking the time to answer. Keep up the great content !
Call to arms!
Why not put one point into holy sheild with all the plus skill items you have just put one point into it and you can have max block
Its a good build but im running out of mana quickly, i have hamer on primary and concetration on secondary
Just came across this guide randomly I run an mf hdin have for years and years and years. Biggest problem. Here is your not running holy shield and max block. That's a must in hell SPECIALLY chaos hell. Ptopaz the shako always for mf char and pdiamond the hoz max resist makes your survivability so much greater in hell
i like a pride runeword for my merc so i dont have to waste time and skills on conc
Getting +12 to pala skills from gear is not unheard of, that gives you a lvl 32 conc, pride is a lvl 20 conc aura at most. You will lose a lot of damage. Also, what aura do you run then? Redemption?
You forgot Insight on merch :D
Early mf I would say, 3 sox Ptopaz helm, wiz spike, spirit shield. upped goldwrap, some more mf mixed with fcr to get the 125% and you do want the 125% until you can actually afford stuff like an enigma. Also, telestaff or -ammy ;) It's expensive to repair, but worth it. This early you'll have plenty of room to pick up armors.
50% block is a nice block rate for Hell CS along with the res from the shield and wiz spike and the vitality you'll have. Block is more important when you have less dmg. The higher your dmg, the less you get hit, the less block matters. Magic gambled mf boots with some res or frw or whatever is on it are fine until you find war travs. Running hell meph, dia or andy for the wiz spike is ez pz with just a wand with some res and or a spirit. Without tele, meph is obviously fastest.
yep that's a great uber cheap setup!
cta scepter with +hs can save some points
Very true!
People still play this game? Makes me wish i could log on to my old account :( I had a perfect BOTD in an ethereal Ogre maul for my WW barb xD
Quite a lot of people still play it.
Youd be better off with a spirit shield, a raven frost + 1 fcr ring, and magefist gloves. Still over 300 mf with fcr break point at 125 for top tier cast rate. Fast clears is always superior to stacking mf after 300. The difference in items between 300 mf and 1100 mf is negligable and irrelivant to anyone whos been playing this game over the last decade. Maras is top choice for amulet. Raven is needed for lowest max block dex stats without dex charms. Without max block, youre better off just running an mf sorc
*I'm trying to remember not to just tell people to use the best 1337 gear..*
"...You'll just teleport around in your Enigma..."
I traded a grief, fortitude for enigma, and a hoto
nice!
love your runs and other vids but the guides are a bit useless in my opinion. People who have Jah, Ber and Vex lying around usually don't need to watch a video to know how to play a character. I have played LoD for legitimately over 20k hours and have selffound maybe 2 HRs ever and that was years apart, getting 3 HRs in the same ladderseason is pretty much utopic without boting or buying stuff online, not even mentioning the fact that they need to be the right HRs. Maybe if you made guides where you play with selffound gear (on that char, not muled over) and show what runs can be made if you only found some low-level uniques or runewords only up to UM so people who actually play a character for the first time can see what runs they can do with poor items. That way people would get more use out of them. Not saying the video is bad, I just think that people who need guides don't have those items and people with those items don't need guides.
seems like you arent doing mf runs that much
getting high runes IS rare but still something you can accomplish if you really try it
i played a mf sorc like 3 years ago and found SUR LO MAL CHAM JAH OHM IST VEX in 10 days
ofc it couldve been just a big amount of luck but thats quite unlikely imo
its just about determination i think ^^
lol. you dont look for HRs on ladder, you look for ist and trade up. You can get a ber for about 25 in current ladder, you can get jah and ber in about 2 weeks of playing easy. botting and buying items is lame... just sandbox it and do count runs and hell forge runs, much easier, and not cheating technically like the other avenues you described. hope that helped. :D
I've played singleplayer for about a month now and found 3 HR's without even grinding hard, you are doing it wrong lol.
Not to mention they're pretty bad anyway. Why fcr amulets and shit when you can just use magefists and then use nagels/bk/sojs/maras/mf amulet... much cheaper and easier to make than fcr amulets and rings that are worth using... Too much insistence on using chance guards... no point
I found jah, lo, cham last ladder and I don't even grind that hard less than 100 hrs I would say to find those
o em gee can go as low as 35 str :D
how the fuck would you get your hands on an enigma before WT and shako?!
Honestly if you just farm Lower Kurast you can get the Runes you need in about...30-50 hours I would assume. Bit tedious but would be 1 way to go about it without finding anything else.
104 strength is too much i think....
Gold belt uped
WiZ pIkE
Helm, no peasants cap?? 15% walk 1 skill 28 till shako
I just hate self leveling Hammerdin. Aiming hammers and areas like maggot lair sucks....
oh yes, I just tele through with a teleport staff for those lol
this is MF build, ok... how am I supposed to find all those items you use?
farming! Andy + Mephisto to get a lot of them
@@MrLlamaSC on hell ? also seems like this would be useless for AT
It’s either hammer paladin or hammerdin lol
Well well.. now whos the one laughin..
Hammer din ….
Hamm ra din
Meni gozu
you throw this ring lol ? -_-'
Llama you are thee D2 streamer and were all huge fans but I'm disappointed in this guide and I suggest you do a new one and delete this. You were unprepared for this! And it's very rushed. Anyway love you man your still the best
This guy coked up?
i play this game 20 years on single mode only and when i see such things it'ls like playing on cheats for me and it's completely senseless. why u play this anymore if u kill all on hell solo in 10seconds?and wtf teleport on paladin. nice cheats
It looked like u just finished normal with those 20 years to me !
@@HaoThienKinh yes, i finished hell SP as pheonix assasin, necro summ and frozenorb sorc
No maxblock not even 75 fcr, if you run cs no rising sun etc.....
Way to show that you have no grasp of game mechanics
Playing POE after playing 15 years of d2, makes d2 seem like a cheap game. And D2 is my favorite game of all time
POE looks and feels like shit.
Edgarv68 you mean that dirt cheap knock off? POE is dumpster juice. Tried to copy D2 and made a shittier version...
You may get bigger if less talking, full peace
This is Diablo sir a game that need an In depth learning and discussion most RTS game and RPG game community always talk about everything, this is not Fortnite.
Why I have soo much damn str lol.. 0 points into holy shield come on. Llama you have speedrun this game for 1000 years but your builds are still super scuffed lol..
only noobs use HOZ on hammers....Use spirit..
“If you can get your hands on an enigma early ladder”.
Maybe you should start scripting your videos to avoid sounding foolish.
Idk doesn't seem too crazy to me if you grind a lot or use jsp and have some extra fg saved up
nooob :D str no cach