'Some Kind of Wonderful' (1987) - Father and son (John Ashton & Eric Stoltz)
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"I'm listening"
"How could you know, you're my father"
Howard Deutch & John Hughes
Mary Stuart Masterson
Lea Thompson
Maddie Corman
Candace Cameron
Elias Koteas - Фільми й анімація
R.I.P. John Ashton!!! Loved him in this and glad he got to reprise his role in Beverly Hills Cop 4 earlier this year! 🙏
When he says “where’s the F-in money” that’s some of the best acting I’ve ever seen. You can see the madness on his face 😂😂😂
"How could you know about this? You're my father." Great line.
I'd argue that this is the best scene Hughes ever wrote. While I think Planes, Trains, & Automobiles is his absolute best, he never ever got as raw as this. The line that always hits me is when Cliff tries his best to calm down and just says "I'm listening!" and Keith doesn't know how to handle it for a second, as if he was ready to scream even louder. It's such a human moment that I don't think Hughes ever quite reached again.
@Akshay Natu Kids are dumb and need to learn things on their own.
@Akshay Natu Boy, I'd hate to grow up in your house. If my kid did this, I'd be pissed, but I'd never disown my kid financially, if they were at least honest about where the money went, as Keith was.
Keith also agreed to talk to his dad about college after the date, meaning that he was still going to work with him on it.
He did work for it, it wasn't his dad's money whatsoever and he respected his dad's wishes about talking about college. You can't rule your kids with an iron fist. You need to let them make mistakes.
@Akshay Natu But you're missing the big picture in that it's not your choice to make when your son is 18, no matter how dumb the spending may be.
@@ZyxthePestSpending all that money on some dumb popular high school b!tch is so pathetic that it's criminal.
RIP John Ashton. Thanks for enriching our lives.
Great movie. I'm glad both these guys are still around in 2022 👍
I love the scene where Keith's Dad says" You'll be the first one in the family that won't have to wash there hands at the end of the day" referring to having a blue collar job.
If he is a painter artist he will...lol
..There is some some freedom to washing your hands and blue color jobs. No debts to repay. I've gone both roads.
I’ve always loved John Ashton, very underrated. This, Midnight Run, and of course, the Beverly Hills Cop series.
*Breaking Away* and *Trapped in Paradise* too for me 👮♂️🎄
I loved him in Beverly hills cop 🤣 the strip tease scene always gets me
@@dnasty312 trapped in paradise classic titles
He is great and really shined in Midnight Run.
Me too
'Dad, I work at a gas station, I love art, my best friend is a tom-boy. These things don’t fly over well in the American high school.
Keith, I had no idea.
How could you? You’re my father.
Great writing from the genius John Hughes.
You know what is a great place for that kind of kid? College.
@@Atif_Ph.D._Kate_Bush_Fan_Club I'm not sure it's great writing. It's a little too far fetched to be real. At least in my opinion. It's a lie.
This is the most real, raw, honest scene in any John Hughes movie. All too often, the parents in John Hughes teen films are silly or stupid. Not here and this scene is great. You see the love and hope Keith's Dad has for him...his age & experience is trying to protect Keith's future, while there is a generation gap there in play.
Blowing all that money on some dumb broad is beyond stupid. I get that Keith didn't want to go to college, but he could have used the money for WAYYYYY better things. Mechanic school, art classes, his own apartment, anything!! But earrings for some popular basic b!tch peaking in HS?! I would have been ashamed of him if he was my son. What a fuckin' waste.
As a teen I sided with the son
Now as a parent I agree with the dad
im a parent of 2 grown daughters and im on Keiths side, not his clueless fathers,. Keith Earned that money and had every right to do with it what He wanted, its not like it was his fathers money, butt out, dad.
Blowing all that money on some dumb broad is beyond stupid. I get that Keith didn't want to go to college, but he could have used the money for WAYYYYY better things. Mechanic school, art classes, his own apartment, anything!! But earrings for some popular basic b!tch peaking in HS?! I would have been ashamed of him if he was my son. What a fuckin' waste.
@@patreacurry2182 dad could butt out when boy moves out of dads house. lol
@@msairs wrong. the father was ALL WRONG. Keith EARNED THAT MONEY FROM HIS GAS STATION JOB. HE DIDNT WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, THAT WAS ALL HIS FATHERS DREAM AND YOU CANT LIVE YOUR LIFE THRU YOUR CHILDS.IM A MOM OF 2 GROWN DAUGHTERS, I SAY THE SAME FOR THEM, THEY EARNED IT, THEY CAN DO WITH IT WHAT THEY WANT. that whole trust thing was crap too, he didnt owe his father anything , trust himself with his money but not owe his father anything. get real. John Hughes knew it too..
@@patreacurry2182Problem is, Keith had no idea what he DID want to do, and the dad didn’t want him crashing in his basement for the next 5 years.
Great scene. "My best friend is a tomboy" Yes, a gorgeous one who was hopelessly in love with you! Nice ending when Keith finally figured it out.
One of my favorite movies as a kid, and this scene STILL gets to me. Powerful as hell....
Great scene. A little trivia: Ashton and Stoltz were only 13 years a part in age.
Bill Johnson a 40 year old back then didn’t look like they do today! I don’t know what happened, maybe all this GMO food has been good for something.
John Ashton looks so young here. When did I get so old?
Ahhhhhh, the days when movies actually taught something.
Those days are long gone.
Scenes like this make me wanna have kids. Some parents dread these kind of discussions; for me they feel more rewarding than climbing a mountain...
Fathers are so important just something about a father and son relationship.
Ashton was a very underrated actor
Still is (we'll see him in 'Beverly Hills Cop: Axel Foley' later this year).
MARVIN!
One of the best scenes in the movie :)
His so soft spoken and dreamy. 🥰Lol even if he raised his voice a lil here. Anyway, this dude rocks! 💜
Damn, the intensity at 1:19....Eric's eyes totally pop here.
R.I.P
🎥🎬🕊🙏🇺🇸John Ashton 🎥🎬🕊🙏🇺🇸
(1948-2024)
John was an Actor & Died of age 76, John Ashton was taken from Action Movies called Beverly Hills Cop in USA 🇺🇸
Still get hyped whenever I see this because I always assume that Heresy, Hypocrisy and Revenge is gonna start playing.
Outside of that though, a truly incredible scene.
Gerald Ford looks so young here
Haha... I get the reference.
"Y'all both look like Gerald Ford!' "Hey Marvin!'" 👊 😂😂😂
Love ❤️ this movie good scene "I said my peace " great line . That's a good father.
30 + years later and I finally realize Keith's dad was 100% right. Keith was being a lovestruck fucking fool.
I said the same thing
As a teen I agreed with Stoltz
Now as a parent I agree with the dad
That's exactly why this scene out of the whole movie stands out to me. As a kid in HS who didn't fit in. I might have done and said the same thing as Keith. Youth lacks wordly experience and runs off emotions instead of logic as a boy/man. As a father now. I would have said the same thing. "Where's the fu#king money!? Lol.. You know what from father to son you think about these things. You have to let kids be themselves and go down their own path, but guide them in the right direction with right principles too. There is a limit on trust. It can be just as easily given or taken away based on someone's attitude, disposition, or actions. Kids don't get this until they get older.
@Akshay Natu Except being especially good as an artist like the movie shows.
Pumping gas? He was already working on a garace.
@@TB-to8uy lol not only that he said he would replace the money. Then earrings ended up with his best friend. Who knew the things he was capable of.
Rest In Peace John Ashton. You were great in this film.
That dad was so much like mine.
The balding head and mustache. Scared the shit out of me as a kid!
When Keith started shouting back I was thinking "don't do it!!" 😆
My pops would have ended my life!
Except the father did something so much more important, he listened.
Hughes was my favorite director/writer/producer of all time. He made the most enjoyable movies of all time.
John Hughes was my favorite filmmaker. This conversation between father/son was a conversation I could never have with my dad, it was all one sided.
When I was younger I thought he was a horrible father but now I’m older I understand him, I don’t think he was right but he cared, he truly loves his son
RIP, John Ashton!
LOVE John Ashton Will Miss You 😪😪😪😪🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊
a good man to man talk between them!!!
cliff:"I want to know what's wrong. Are you in trouble?"
I think Keith is just such a cutie pie honestly🥰
Best father ever.
One f my favourite movies.
I think that gave me a wake up call, seriously!!!!
Yeah, to take life seriously!
John Ashton was awesome in this role.
A glimpse into what Back to the Future might have been. At least some of the same themes were presented. I think it was possibly maybe even an homage to that movie.
“Do you know any father who would let his kid do something like this?”
“No.”
“So why should I have to go along with it?”
“Because you believe in me.”
Keith nailed it right there. That’s exactly why his dad was so mad - he actually gave a fuck.
Great scene.
I agree Jersey, it moves me like no other scene.
My Favorite movie
keith had earned that money. he didnt owe his father anything. much less any explanation. its was his, not his fathers.
Either way his Dad is more experienced and wiser. And wants the best for him and is looking out for him, probably remembers 18 year olds can do reckless and regrettable things.
@@VanielDeeform WRONG ! KEITH HAD EARNED THAT MONEY FROM HIS WORK ON CARS, IT WAS HIS, IT WAS NONE OF HIS FATHERS BUSINESS, HE WAS SMART TO NOT GO TO COLLEGE, HE HAD OTHER PLANS, BEING A 1980S sahm myself, you cant decide your childs life for them, especially whne theyre earning their own money, get a clue,.
Rip John Ashton!!!
RIP John!❤
heh....learning a trade nowadays like being a mechanic is more lucrative than having a college degree anyways
RIP John Ashton
Don’t know how no one has posted this yet, but...
LOOK AT WHAT YOU LEFT FOR MEEEEE!!!!
NOW THAT YOU’VE MOVED ON!!!!!
Rip John Ashton!
God. When Cliff screamed "Where's the fucking money Keith!!", I couldn't have resisted. I would have said "Oh, you mean the money I earned and saved from my job that you didn't contribute one penny to, but yet ride my ass every day how to spend it? That money? I think I did whatever I felt like doing with it".
yet he provides him a hone and food? u ever thought about that?
@@Tommyblueeyes Congrats to Cliff for doing the bare minimum that any parent should do. Keith saving 100% of the money for his own college is far more impressive.
@@tonyc7301 fair call brother fair call, especially this day and age..mind u I was working in a timber mill at age `14
@@Tommyblueeyes I hear you man. I worked at a printing press starting at 16, but that's some real labor you were putting in at a young age.
"OK son, well after blowing all your hard-earned money on some stupid worthless chick, I really hope you have a plan for what you're gonna do after high school, 'cause you're not crashing in my basement longer than 6 months after you turn 18. Count on that!"
That’s a dad!
It's very Dark For Playing Marty Mcfly
1:04 what you came for
Keith was ahead of his time not to waste money on college - unless you're becoming an engineer or doctor, it makes no sense
exactly
ali ali the 80’s was when that started that college is the only way unless you want to be a low-skilled nobody the rest of your life. But today if you want to do well without a degree and not having to build your own business working for someone, being a union tradesman or civil servant is your best option. Their wages and salaries have actually kept up with inflation.
What was the point of blowing all that money on a present for some chick he realized he didn't even want in the end though?? What a fuckin' waste. He could have used that for art school or something, since that's what he was interested in.
There's plenty of value in college for people that can maximize the opportunity and do something great with the experience.
So what do you think Keith did with his life?
his father didnt need to give him permission to spend the money he had earned,that wasnt his business.
Eric Stoltz was etherial, mpney or no money... any girl would be in love
At nearly 61 years old, he's still enigmatic.
6/13/2024: Andrew McCarthy's documentary 'Brats', about the actors (including himself) that found themselves part of the so-called 'Brat Pack' in the 1980s, is now available via streaming, and is highly recommended. It also happens to include a few seconds of this 'Some Kind of Wonderful' sequence, as well as interviews with Lea Thompson and with her husband, 'Pretty in Pink' and SKOW director Howard Deutch.
RIP
THAT WAS KEITHS MONEY HE EARNED IT. IT WAS NOT HIS FATHERS BUSINESS HOW HE SPENT IT. WORKING ON CARS WILL LAST YOU A LOT LONGER IN LIFE THAN GOING TO COLLEGE. THATS FOR SURE.ITS A SKILLED JOB.
patrea lynn back then you could easily make $16-17 an hour as a mechanic, adjusted to about $37 an hour in today’s dollars. Today you’re lucky if you’re making $21-22 an hour, even in high cost areas.
patrea lynn college is overrated. I went and got a degree, but it’s just a piece of damn paper.
Yeah, thumbs up, wink!
@@fantasybouthour6679 Look at how ITT Tech fucked over their students before that institute closed down sending people out on the streets and homeless.
Yeah but spending a lot of hard earned money at once is very risky. Any father would be concerned.
Great movie..
The Original Marty Mcfly
That Is Then Voice
**I LIKE HOW HIOS DAD ""SWEARS""" AT HIM, HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THE INFOMIOUS ""F"" WORD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH**
I got this dvd movie
Blu-ray steelbook
John Aston sounds like John taggett on Beverly hills cops
Because he is Taggart. Though here, he's Clifford Nelson
I never understood when Keith says how he’s not stupid, he’s going to put the money back... but before that, he says the money is gone and he can’t get it back. Explanation, anyone?
His dad wanted him to return whatever he had bought with the money he withdrew and put it right back into the bank account - that money was indeed gone, it turned into a ring, and Keith had decided he wasn't going to return it or sell it no matter what.
Replacing the money meant he was willing to deposit his future paychecks, or most of them anyway, into the account he had just drained, and soon enough the balance would reach the amount he withdrew. Letting his dad know that he didn't plan to keep blowing all of his money, and that he actually did understand the importance of saving for the future.
Calm down, Marty
They cut out the toilet flush. Meh
RIHP John Ashton
The best scene in the whole movie.
hi..i want to know how to get the music note of the music gallery part where he bring her to the museum....it,s hard to find...but i like to llay it on the piano.
TAGGART....LOL
also his father had no business looking at his sons account, he earned it. thats invasion of privacy.
Nope, Keith is still a minor, and anything happens to Keith, the parents are ultimately responsible, sorry. Plus, he is just being a good Dad/parent.
@@michelehernandez4217 Keith is NOT a minor. He's 18 and by law, that money belongs to him and him alone.
Cliff was looking out for him, but as Keith explains, he wasn't listening to him.
@@ZyxthePest I did not ask for any arguments, thank you. Life is already hard as it is for some of us, maybe you should try a little respect when addressing a person. I merely was observing on JUST A MOVIE!
@@michelehernandez4217 I didn't see anything stand offish about my comment? I was literally just stating American law?
@@ZyxthePest besides, he had earned it all himself, he didnt owe his father.
not to mention why would his father even mention trust? that was Keiths money and he didnt have to have anything from his father for dealing with any of it. he earned it! no one gave him any. and working on cars is a decent job. Amandas guy was a rich brat, and sad to say i have learned in my life that those guys are real. my ex is a lot like that.
"When does my life belong to me?" When you aren't living at home.
I don't have to live by your terms, dad! I didn't fucking ask to be born to begin with. You should've wore a fucking condom.
yep lol
Super unrealistic........Eric's character is good-looking, intwlligent but not showy, and confident. He doesn't even let others bully him and stands up for others.
How is he a loser in high school, when we literally never see him being bullied?
The only bullying Keith endures is from Duncan and Hardy. Duncan and Keith get to know each other and ultimately become good friends. Hardy is a narcissistic asshole.
Weird acting lol
The alternate Riddler, and Marty McFly! XD