UPDATE: The Blog post was incorrect, there is NO additional roll for completing all 3 bosses. Target Farming is always the fastest way to finish up collection log :)
@@jake8748 Check the blog they released on April 10th. I think the blog is called "Undead Pirates, Colosseum Changes & more". Under the "New Loot Rates" area.
Dude, I’m really glad to see just a normal guy coming up on UA-cam Hella cool bro. You actually make really good videos. Can’t wait till you have more money for production bro I think you’re doing great.
Great analysis. Too bad we don't know how trading in dupes works but I think you're right, target farming is clearly the winner if you're trying to finish that last set.
Disclaimer: This analysis does not account for the possibility of getting Uniques by trading in Dupes to Eyatlali. There isn't any official announcement on these drop rates nor enough data to know for sure what these rates look like. It may be the case doing full runs and trading in uniques is faster, but personally I doubt this. If you need all 3 sets, doing all 3 is obviously worth it.
@PattyGoesZoom That's entirely possible they just didn't say anything to suggest that in the blog post so I'm just going off basic assumption that it's equal weighting. we would need a LOT of data to tell unfortunately
From the first stream iirc they mentioned the odds of getting a unique from trading it in is the same as the odds at getting a drop in general, so a 1/56 odd per dupe! Cant confirm 100% but i feel like i heard that from one of the devs from when they traded it in
Great video explanation. I’m 9/12 items. Blue and blood completed. I’m not a math or stats guy, but maybe it’s still better to do a full run to get the extra 1/56 for eclipse (even though it’s 1/3 of 1/56 to get an eclipse piece via the extra roll) But chucking the dupe in the bin - which now since I have 2 full sets would be 8/11 chance (since I can’t get the eclipse helm - so it’s 11 and not 12) and then chucking any dupe for 1/56 roll for I assume a set I don’t have. So that’d be: 1/56 for the eclipse boss 1/56 for full run (but 1/3) 1/28 for Blue or Blood dupe - 2/3 chance the item is a dupe Converted to 1/56 for an eclipse piece - assuming dupes aren’t possible on rerolls (which I don’t know) I’m an iron, so I feel like I’ll want to do the full runs for the darts but I don’t know.
As an iron I am interested in getting all sets, I am sure they will have they niche situations. Currently 75kc and dry, hopefully I roll well the next 75 :)
Kinda wanna do blue and blood moon boss only to fishish those 2 sets but it's so chill doing a full run while watching TV and I like the banked prayer exp so I'll prob do full runs and use dupe eclipse as coffer candy
Im 90% sure you can pices from bosses you arent killing, ive done over 140kc with only killing eclipse and blue moon, and ive gotten the dual machwhittles and the blood moon helmet( im only missing the blood moon tassests and chest)
Man I was unaware of target farming, I spent all day farming 80 chests killing all 3 bosses just to finish the log (only missing Blue Moon tassets) I saw your video and started targeting Blue Moon. At the 2nd chest, I got the final piece for the green log. Thank you very much I´m freeeeeeee!
honestly i think the bosses in osrs should have levels... imagine how fun this boss would be if there was a option to switch to high level of difficultly instead of just walking threw the boss over and over. if youre high level this boss is super easy
So if i get a unique, i sell it at ge, i no longer have that unique. Will it still count as a dupe if ive already received it as a drop but no longer have it?
It goes off collection log so even if you sell it, it'll still be considered as a dupe, so you won't receive that drop again until you have all the other uniques
I tried to be clear with my methodology so if I missed something by all means, feel free to point it out. It lines up exactly with the 1/14 number they stated though
I think it's fine, considering this is not a boss where you are supposed to dedicate a lot of time. It doesn't give great value rewards from the common drops (great for midgame, not so much after), so if you had to stay for 1000 kc it would be insanely pointless.
@@ZeroPhilosopher i have an iron and a main. it devalues my accomplishents on my iron. and yours. just gonna be a cheese log to finish because of this.
So if im killing all 3 bosses and have a full set of blue armor + weapon, and none of the other sets, do I now have a chance of getting a dupe blue set piece over the sets I dont have yet?
Yes, but you're also getting a bonus roll which 2/3 of the time will hit either blood or eclipse, so it's up to you whether you want to kill the blue boss or just keep spamming the first 2.
UPDATE: The Blog post was incorrect, there is NO additional roll for completing all 3 bosses. Target Farming is always the fastest way to finish up collection log :)
Them sons a bitches 😅
Guess I'm officially target farming, since I just got a dupe and I'm still missing 3 pieces from the other 2 sets
You sure? The post on the website still says an additional roll for killing all 3.
@@jake8748 We are sure from both crowdsourcing and the new (10 April) blogpost.
@@jake8748 Yeah, there was a comment/additional reddit post (not on the news site i dont think) by a jmod that confirmed this was a mistake
@@jake8748 Check the blog they released on April 10th. I think the blog is called "Undead Pirates, Colosseum Changes & more". Under the "New Loot Rates" area.
Dude, I’m really glad to see just a normal guy coming up on UA-cam Hella cool bro. You actually make really good videos. Can’t wait till you have more money for production bro I think you’re doing great.
You're like the unsung hero of breaking down new OSRS content. Your leagues 3 guide was insanely useful as well
Great analysis. Too bad we don't know how trading in dupes works but I think you're right, target farming is clearly the winner if you're trying to finish that last set.
Disclaimer: This analysis does not account for the possibility of getting Uniques by trading in Dupes to Eyatlali. There isn't any official announcement on these drop rates nor enough data to know for sure what these rates look like.
It may be the case doing full runs and trading in uniques is faster, but personally I doubt this.
If you need all 3 sets, doing all 3 is obviously worth it.
We also don't know if the additional rolls have a preference for uncompleted pieces regardless of set.
@PattyGoesZoom That's entirely possible they just didn't say anything to suggest that in the blog post so I'm just going off basic assumption that it's equal weighting. we would need a LOT of data to tell unfortunately
From the first stream iirc they mentioned the odds of getting a unique from trading it in is the same as the odds at getting a drop in general, so a 1/56 odd per dupe! Cant confirm 100% but i feel like i heard that from one of the devs from when they traded it in
i’m actually particularly enjoying doing this content but am at 100 chests (all 3 moons) 0 uniques lol
Nice hearing I'm not the only one. 50 dry here.
Same 💀
Sure but will we ever need to find harralander again?
Wait, I never needed to find harralander...
@@thatdylthisdylhow about that soft clay tho? 👀
My friend is 110kc and has 10/13 uniques 😬
cant say how much i appreciate you presenting the math in an easy way
Thank God you exist so I don't have to twist my mind to figure out this math myself
thanks this isaves me alot of time finishing up log :D 370 kc 11/13 with 7 dupes just got 2 eclipse left :D
Good math, great explanation, excellent video!
Great video explanation. I’m 9/12 items. Blue and blood completed. I’m not a math or stats guy, but maybe it’s still better to do a full run to get the extra 1/56 for eclipse (even though it’s 1/3 of 1/56 to get an eclipse piece via the extra roll)
But chucking the dupe in the bin - which now since I have 2 full sets would be 8/11 chance (since I can’t get the eclipse helm - so it’s 11 and not 12) and then chucking any dupe for 1/56 roll for I assume a set I don’t have.
So that’d be:
1/56 for the eclipse boss
1/56 for full run (but 1/3)
1/28 for Blue or Blood dupe
- 2/3 chance the item is a dupe
Converted to 1/56 for an eclipse piece - assuming dupes aren’t possible on rerolls (which I don’t know)
I’m an iron, so I feel like I’ll want to do the full runs for the darts but I don’t know.
Was this on world 420? I think I see myself in the video lol. Great upload 🤘
Ayo... this is a really great video man I really like your style keep it up. Easy sub
As an iron I am interested in getting all sets, I am sure they will have they niche situations. Currently 75kc and dry, hopefully I roll well the next 75 :)
Kinda wanna do blue and blood moon boss only to fishish those 2 sets but it's so chill doing a full run while watching TV and I like the banked prayer exp so I'll prob do full runs and use dupe eclipse as coffer candy
would killing only the boss with the highest valued uniques be better gp/h than full clears then?
Does this sort of duplicate rule (cant get duplicates until you complete the set) apply to Barrows?
So I got 2 full sets of the blue armor, is it better to just kill the yellow and red one? Or do all 3? I miss out on yellow legs and full set melee.
So if you dont have any it would be faster to do the orange one first
Hows that eclipse working at TOA?
Im 40 dry no uniques yet 😢
57 chests - all 3 bosses. Got 2 uniques
i've done 79 chests all 3 bosses with 0 uniques
1/6 of the normal loot per chest, but it takes 1/3rd of the time. So it’s only 1/2 the normal loot per hour of doing Moons. Not too bad!
Im 90% sure you can pices from bosses you arent killing, ive done over 140kc with only killing eclipse and blue moon, and ive gotten the dual machwhittles and the blood moon helmet( im only missing the blood moon tassests and chest)
I completed my log at 118 full runs, with one dupe, the ranged weapon.
Man I was unaware of target farming, I spent all day farming 80 chests killing all 3 bosses just to finish the log (only missing Blue Moon tassets) I saw your video and started targeting Blue Moon. At the 2nd chest, I got the final piece for the green log. Thank you very much I´m freeeeeeee!
Nearly green logging it in 80 kc is crazy lucky, like double the drop rate
Got lucky and finished Blood Moon before 100 kc so only killing eclipse and blue moon, significantly faster without having to kill blood moon.
my first item was at 94 so I definitely went dry lol
I hate that you put Moonlight Moth in NPC Indicator instead of tagging them because like 90% of them can't be caught and are just atmosphere lol
In my mind i somehow knew this, but i never managed to spend the 20seconds to just tag the right ones
52 chests only blue moon head x.x
I did 148 runs, green logged on 15 total pieces lol. Got absolutely spooned
cant believe jagex would lie to us like that about the bonus roll
540KC no blood chest still solo blood chests since 380kc kill me.
honestly i think the bosses in osrs should have levels... imagine how fun this boss would be if there was a option to switch to high level of difficultly instead of just walking threw the boss over and over. if youre high level this boss is super easy
Moons of peril
225 kc and i have 4 drops.... "dry"
So if i get a unique, i sell it at ge, i no longer have that unique. Will it still count as a dupe if ive already received it as a drop but no longer have it?
It goes off collection log so even if you sell it, it'll still be considered as a dupe, so you won't receive that drop again until you have all the other uniques
@@SolersRobur thanks!
the heck? day 1 i couldnt even open the chest unless i killed all 3.
Maybe that is only during the quest?
Getting there after killing the boss is aids lol, decent amount of running. I need one item left from Blood moon
first
"takes faster"? or u mean "takes less" 9:00
or maybe u meant "is faster"
Statistics doesn’t work like that
I tried to be clear with my methodology so if I missed something by all means, feel free to point it out. It lines up exactly with the 1/14 number they stated though
i think the dupe prevention is a bad change and putting ironmen on EZ mode
you dont even play iron
I think it's fine, considering this is not a boss where you are supposed to dedicate a lot of time. It doesn't give great value rewards from the common drops (great for midgame, not so much after), so if you had to stay for 1000 kc it would be insanely pointless.
Cry more buddy. A lot of people play ironman compared to ezscape non iron
@@ZeroPhilosopher i have an iron and a main. it devalues my accomplishents on my iron. and yours. just gonna be a cheese log to finish because of this.
This event also has dup pertection
So if im killing all 3 bosses and have a full set of blue armor + weapon, and none of the other sets, do I now have a chance of getting a dupe blue set piece over the sets I dont have yet?
Yes, but you're also getting a bonus roll which 2/3 of the time will hit either blood or eclipse, so it's up to you whether you want to kill the blue boss or just keep spamming the first 2.
Thanks man!@@doubleshine