Why did Cuba Intervene in Angola? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • One of the longest military interventions in the Cold War was the Cuban intervention in the Angolan Civil War. But why did Cuba, a small country a literal ocean away decide to intervene in an African Civil War. And what happened after it did so? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 4,3 тис.

  • @MrRemicas
    @MrRemicas 3 роки тому +15283

    When you're an ex-Spanish colony fighting in an ex-Portuguese colony against an ex-British colony that was an ex-Dutch colony trying to keep an hold on another colony.

    • @roadhouse6999
      @roadhouse6999 3 роки тому +2498

      ...And you're not helping other ex-Spanish colonies because you're afraid of intervention by an ex-British Colony that almost made you a colony 60 years early.

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 3 роки тому +811

      Colony Ception

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic 3 роки тому +585

      @@roadhouse6999 ...And you became an ex-Spanish colony of an ex-British colony after the ex-British colony beat up your ex-Spanish and owned you for a bit before you, the ex-Spanish colony, got independence from the ex-British colony that helped you against your ex-Spanish.

    • @the_washingmachine1295
      @the_washingmachine1295 3 роки тому +291

      Oh yeah, it's all coming together...

    • @theemirofjaffa2266
      @theemirofjaffa2266 3 роки тому +343

      "The War of the Colonies"

  • @pinkpenetrator5384
    @pinkpenetrator5384 3 роки тому +7726

    "Proxy war between Cuba and South Africa" Never imagened I'd hear those words

    • @ZayanK
      @ZayanK 3 роки тому +653

      Not even proxy. They actually engaged each other in the battlefield.

    • @TheFlameBladeWielder
      @TheFlameBladeWielder 3 роки тому +410

      yeah, not proxy cause they did actually fight, Cuba fought to dismantle apartheid for decades

    • @Esther_Herbst
      @Esther_Herbst 3 роки тому +52

      That's why this channel exists.

    • @pixel6698
      @pixel6698 3 роки тому +213

      Bootleg USA vs USSR.

    • @louvendran7273
      @louvendran7273 3 роки тому +164

      @@TheFlameBladeWielder Cuba won. Brought freedom to us and is now swept under the carpet.

  • @synthetictechnocrat9270
    @synthetictechnocrat9270 3 роки тому +3780

    This sounds exactly like something that happens in non-historical Hoi4 games...

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 2 роки тому +62

      That's where Portugal brought out the first slaves in 1450's. Cuban Africans probably didn't mind that.

    • @imlivingunderyourbed7845
      @imlivingunderyourbed7845 2 роки тому +102

      Wait until you hear about Aztecs and Ottomans going to war on the Philippine archipelago like a non-historical EU4.

    • @gabrielvicuna9734
      @gabrielvicuna9734 2 роки тому +4

      Or TNO

    • @bruh5992
      @bruh5992 2 роки тому +7

      @@imlivingunderyourbed7845 the most ambitious crossover + it was against Japanese Pirates (i think)

    • @redbasher636
      @redbasher636 2 роки тому +1

      @@bruh5992 Wait what

  • @comradef2163
    @comradef2163 3 роки тому +1765

    Fun fact: there were three warring factions in the Angolan Civil War: the MPLA (who were Marxists in ideology), the UNITA who were right-winged in ideology, and the FNLA who were reactionaries that wanted to restore the ancient pre-colonial Kongo empire. Along with clear ideological differences and the quest for power, the civil war was also a war against ethnic groups that didn’t really like each other.

    • @iliasszennati173
      @iliasszennati173 2 роки тому +18

      Sadly jonas's dream didnt happen

    • @susactivities_
      @susactivities_ 2 роки тому +61

      UNITA was based

    • @Zestyfloridaguy
      @Zestyfloridaguy 2 роки тому +33

      Death to the MPLA!

    • @SkyeAten
      @SkyeAten 2 роки тому +8

      Somehow people seem to always overlook that point lol

    • @TheSchultinator
      @TheSchultinator 2 роки тому +38

      It seems like every war in Africa turns into an excuse for ethnic clashing, which is a result of all the colonialism

  • @saggybones
    @saggybones 3 роки тому +7570

    Cuba: "We did it, our comrades rule Angola now!"
    Angola a year later: "Look...it's not you, it's me..."

    • @CBJay-hw3jk
      @CBJay-hw3jk 3 роки тому +212

      Wow that war was worth it!

    • @ImtheHitcher
      @ImtheHitcher 3 роки тому +292

      The PR alone was probably worth it for the regime since Cuba is under US embargo they rely on good relations with 'non aligned' countries to get by.

    • @ln7929
      @ln7929 3 роки тому +7

      @@ImtheHitcher that embargo was lifted by Obama

    • @doni6324
      @doni6324 3 роки тому +293

      @@ln7929 Obama wasn’t president 50 years ago, so mentioning him is useless.

    • @ImtheHitcher
      @ImtheHitcher 3 роки тому +225

      @@ln7929 1. no, it wasn't
      2. Trump rolled back every Obama era reform
      3. we're talking about a long time ago here

  • @tiagofurlani395
    @tiagofurlani395 3 роки тому +16949

    USSR: (crying) *they* *grow* *up* *so* *fast, his* *first* *intervention* !

    • @Snoweagle0
      @Snoweagle0 3 роки тому +421

      Lmfao

    • @Tannyboydegen
      @Tannyboydegen 3 роки тому +300

      Very fast

    • @vipermad358
      @vipermad358 3 роки тому +212

      The USSR had nothing to do with the Cuban Revolution.

    • @Dragonite_Tom
      @Dragonite_Tom 3 роки тому +385

      So fast that Angola dropped out of Communism 😳

    • @darkhope97
      @darkhope97 3 роки тому +467

      @@vipermad358 let me put it this way without a powerful communist state like the soviet union Cuba would have really struggled pass the revolution itselft

  • @asiesjefa1758
    @asiesjefa1758 3 роки тому +1000

    My father was actually there, in Angola, at that time (he was a captain of a little fishing vessel 18 years) and he says that the Cubans were rather friendly with him in Luanda. Interestingly, he claims that the ones he met were in another fishing vessel but when he got invited to their ship it was full with aks and grenades.

    • @raulrod95
      @raulrod95 Рік тому +94

      My dad was actually there in Angola, (he’s Cuban)he told me that they had to smuggle weapons and camping gear on fishing ships to be undetected. He also said that people in Luanda were friendly but when he was sent south and deep inland people were a lot less keen on them.
      Small world isn’t it?

    • @asiesjefa1758
      @asiesjefa1758 Рік тому +42

      @@raulrod95 quizás incluso se conocieran jajaj mi padre (español) contaba que una vez un cubano colega suyo le preguntó que si sabía cómo pescaban los cubanos y tras eso tiro una granada al agua y al explotar salieron los peces a flote. Si le puedes preguntar si de casualidad conoció a algún patrón de pesca español de Lepe (O Huelva) sería genial 🙏

    • @lightravenn
      @lightravenn Рік тому

      Cuban military only knew how to fight guerillas

    • @FG-bu3jp
      @FG-bu3jp Рік тому +6

      Cubans are really friendly, surprised they invaded angola you expect that from europeans

    • @guleiro
      @guleiro Рік тому +16

      ​@@raulrod95
      Cubans were considered brothers by most angolans.
      I lived those times growing up in a city from the south of Angola called Huambo.
      I remember going to visit a cuban unit on a school trip in 1987.
      We spent the day learning how to play baseball and learning how the unit was managed.
      Every region controlled by the MPLA (the government) Cubans where more than welcome.
      It was normal to see cuban militarily personal in the city doing their daily routines.
      Many also had left kids there.
      In regions controlled by UNITA, things were in fact different.

  • @l.f.c9973
    @l.f.c9973 3 роки тому +1002

    Wen ur cuban fightin in africa against a man who speaks dutch and his country is ruled by english and the people your protecting speak portuguese

    • @deisk2707
      @deisk2707 3 роки тому +76

      aaaaahhhh, MR WORLDWIDE!

    • @gareth6525
      @gareth6525 3 роки тому +52

      Actually South Africans don't speak Dutch and the Country was being ruled by an Afrikaans political party not an English political party*

    • @deisk2707
      @deisk2707 3 роки тому +21

      @@gareth6525 Double "aaaaahhhh, MR WORLDWIDE!"

    • @danielstruwig3078
      @danielstruwig3078 3 роки тому +6

      Afrikaans*

    • @karnickel-s33d16
      @karnickel-s33d16 3 роки тому +21

      They spoke Afrikaans, which is kind of like Dutch

  • @hermes112
    @hermes112 3 роки тому +6413

    "The Angolan Civil war was now becoming a proxy war between Cuba and South Africa"
    I would never thought I would hear a sentence like that.

    • @jontheb123
      @jontheb123 3 роки тому +140

      Because it's actually not true - it was the final battlefield of the cold war. It was a regular US v Russia proxy with the Russians backing the Cubans and the US backing South Africa.

    • @hermes112
      @hermes112 3 роки тому +5

      hmm interesting

    • @boeloevanboeloefontein
      @boeloevanboeloefontein 3 роки тому +163

      @@jontheb123 Regarding your point about the RSA being a USA proxy, that's not entirely true. The US did not support Apartheid (officially at least; though President Reagan and many Republican Southerners generally did to varying extents for their own various reasons), so American "involvement" was purely media-related.
      Also there were a few Russian troops in Angola, so it wasn't exclusively *proxy*. Another reason the US didn't provide aid, they didn't want to piss off the Russians any more than they already had.

    • @boeloevanboeloefontein
      @boeloevanboeloefontein 3 роки тому +3

      @James Rogers Ah. Cheers.

    • @hermes112
      @hermes112 3 роки тому +1

      @@incurve6839 really? Lol

  • @euanwalsh7604
    @euanwalsh7604 3 роки тому +2540

    South Africa clearly didn't have the financial assistance of James Bisonette

    • @yesimant
      @yesimant 3 роки тому +8

      Bro no $hit

    • @lprcn2532
      @lprcn2532 3 роки тому +29

      james bissonnete meme begins

    • @guilhermefaleiros4892
      @guilhermefaleiros4892 3 роки тому +19

      Thats because he is communist, as every inteligent person in the world

    • @lars9925
      @lars9925 3 роки тому +47

      @@guilhermefaleiros4892
      Intelligent people want starving and economic mismanagement?
      I don't think so.

    • @RackHasAttacked
      @RackHasAttacked 3 роки тому +32

      @@guilhermefaleiros4892funny joke😂

  • @levie9714
    @levie9714 3 роки тому +203

    My grandfather was a Cuban there
    he "volunteered" in what i believe was the "gloria regiment" in the 70s, he left behind a young wife and a daughter (my mother)
    in the army he was known as "el Gallego" because his family was from Spain
    he trained for a few months as an machine gunner, then he and his comrades boarded a leased soviet oil tanker which took him to Angola, along the way they were harrased by US naval aircraft
    they had to run to the hot holds until the aircraft would leave
    he sent many letters describing how empty the cities felt, with abandoned cars and looting, the constant patrols and freezing nights believe it or not
    and how many (not all locals) where "submissive" to the Portuguese and were expecting their return
    he saw an MPLA soldier throw a mortar round to knock down a fruit from a tree which detonated, killing a bunch of men, the blood was a terrible sight
    later in a patrol over a bridge his unit was ambushed where he jumped down and laid suppressive fire which routed the UNITA, most of them dropped their own guns as they fled
    he never answered if he had killed anybody
    he returned completely healthy and fine to his family, today is his birthday 81 years old
    i have always been proud of him
    which is very good considering all the wounded cubans that came back, missing arms and sometimes blind
    some people came back intact but not in mind
    Important to know angola and cuba has today very good relations, and they trade alot with each other, angola even operates oil drills in the gulf of mexico with cuban assistance
    cuba also sells them some armored vehicles

    • @unsrescyldas9745
      @unsrescyldas9745 Рік тому +7

      "he saw an MPLA soldier throw a mortar round to knock down a fruit from a tree which detonated, killing a bunch of men, the blood was a terrible sight" how, why, what

    • @levie9714
      @levie9714 Рік тому +13

      ​@@unsrescyldas9745 My grandpa arrived on the scene immediately after the explosion,
      a witness in the scene told him the victim picked up an unexploded bomb, and carelessly threw it, supposedly to get a fruit from a tree. I do not know any details of how it actually happened

    • @DavidJDM
      @DavidJDM Рік тому

      Como se llama tu abuelo? Apellido

    • @victormanuelfonsecasanchez9610
      @victormanuelfonsecasanchez9610 Рік тому +8

      @@unsrescyldas9745 totally true what he says. I worked in the archives of the Institute for the History of Cuba when I was studying my first degree (History) and one day I had to help a colleague with the documentary collection of the fallen in the war in Angola and the number of stupid accidents that occurred in that war is awesome. Here are two other examples: one day a soldier playing with his weapon killed a comrade. And another time a soldier went to bathe in a river and never appeared. This was told to me by my dad who was in the Ethiopian war: one of his companions taking a bath with a large aluminum can, the can fell and he injured himself between the toes of one foot, this was when they were stationed in the desert. Since there was no doctor and only the company toilet, the wound got worse and worse until he died of gangrene.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Рік тому

      What kind of idiot throws a MORTAR round to get a fruit?

  • @soyungamer9434
    @soyungamer9434 2 роки тому +269

    The nicest and most caring man I have ever known in Cuba, name's José, fought at Angola, he used to tell us stories of the struggles the army faced in the Angolan jungles, I don't remember many of them besides that several times they had to keep an eye on the water supply in case a Lizard species contaminated it by simply having contact with it and the nights without sleep due to the alarming sounds of gunfire in the dark depths of the jungle

    • @rbvfeehfbudenrj
      @rbvfeehfbudenrj 2 роки тому +2

      Wow

    • @tiffanyizata3717
      @tiffanyizata3717 2 роки тому +2

      Cool, do you have more stories??

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому +1

      I would have been so scared...

    • @captainpiggz6391
      @captainpiggz6391 Рік тому +1

      Did you also ask him if he participated in the massacres?

    • @Gab-jo6jg
      @Gab-jo6jg Рік тому

      ​@@captainpiggz6391 the massacre was Made by the south african racist

  • @zfollowell
    @zfollowell 3 роки тому +2378

    Only in the Cold War can you more or less hear "Cuba and South Africa had a war in Angola" and still not be surprised.

    • @basedgamer6607
      @basedgamer6607 3 роки тому +51

      DEATH TO THE MPLA

    • @springbok4015
      @springbok4015 3 роки тому +59

      All kinds of weird things were triggered by the Cold War. Other than the world wars, arguably the most wide-spread with lots of proxy wars among other things.

    • @jacksquat1265
      @jacksquat1265 3 роки тому +9

      "Ooooh yeah... that makes total sense"

    • @nooneinparticular9837
      @nooneinparticular9837 3 роки тому +28

      I'm still a little surprised tbh. Fighting a war an ocean away is probably pretty hard for a small country like cuba, i'd imagine.

    • @kingmonde
      @kingmonde 3 роки тому +16

      As a South African, I was surprised, lol. Did not expect a mention.

  • @yourneighbourhooddoomer
    @yourneighbourhooddoomer 3 роки тому +792

    portugese colonizers: left
    weapon shipments: received
    foreign military "advisers": invited
    Yep, it's civil war time.

    • @vinzcastro9304
      @vinzcastro9304 3 роки тому +5

      how do you not have more likes?

    • @felipedaiber2991
      @felipedaiber2991 3 роки тому +5

      a military adviser is what it sounds, a general that helps a military group that lacks its own military officers with knowledge in strategy

    • @whoeveneatsbreakfast
      @whoeveneatsbreakfast 3 роки тому +11

      hotel: trivago

    • @walsh9080
      @walsh9080 3 роки тому +11

      @@whoeveneatsbreakfast More like Hotel: Rwanda lol.

    • @killrproductions7411
      @killrproductions7411 3 роки тому +1

      Hotel: trivago

  • @KexiGina
    @KexiGina 3 роки тому +373

    this is cool to watch, as an Angolan living in the diaspora it's pretty interesting seeing part of our history (albeit a violent part of the history) being shared with the global community.

    • @cannibalbunnygirl
      @cannibalbunnygirl 2 роки тому +6

      I've just started getting into history after a passing comment from my south african uncle, I must've listened to him talk about it for 2 hours and I STILL have no idea what happened.

    • @KexiGina
      @KexiGina 2 роки тому +10

      @@cannibalbunnygirl a couple years ago, my dad had a business meeting with a South African, former soldier from the war, and they had long talk about those days. It was interesting seeing two people from opposing sides sharing those memories. Obviously at the end they both had disclaimers that they were just doing what they were simply following orders.

    • @cannibalbunnygirl
      @cannibalbunnygirl 2 роки тому +7

      @@KexiGina pretty much what my uncle said, he didn't want to join the SADF but there was little to no choice. He got conscripted at 16.
      The damage done to men on both sides is unfathomable

    • @drumboarder1
      @drumboarder1 2 роки тому +3

      @@cannibalbunnygirl that's one hell of a passing comment

    • @cannibalbunnygirl
      @cannibalbunnygirl 2 роки тому +3

      @@drumboarder1 lol, he made a comment and it turned into a 2hr conversation. Should've made that clear 😂

  • @danielmatsui4336
    @danielmatsui4336 3 роки тому +38

    In the 80s Cuba was considered a middle power and an influential country in Latin America by boosting a well trained and equiped military.
    All of this was of course financed by soviet loans and the purchase of cuban sugar by the USSR.

    • @_audacity2722
      @_audacity2722 Рік тому

      That's cool. The USA wants to use military force to bully the world, and the USSR is willing to buy sugar and make loans.
      Gee, I wonder who the bad guys are

  • @belka8618
    @belka8618 3 роки тому +2922

    "DEATH TO THE MPLA"
    Some black dude in black ops 2

    • @Nietabs
      @Nietabs 3 роки тому +165

      He's a real general, who fought angolan civil war

    • @insectslayer1374
      @insectslayer1374 3 роки тому +86

      What are you doing here brothers?
      *WE MUST FIGHT THE MPLA*

    • @nostalgiagames1800
      @nostalgiagames1800 3 роки тому +18

      Rick Ross

    • @calumbasilva868
      @calumbasilva868 3 роки тому +23

      MPLA NEEDS TO GET REMOVED

    • @jeune_turc9404
      @jeune_turc9404 3 роки тому +48

      @Alice Von Hindenburg MPLA still stands strong against Portuguese Colonialists and CIA backed puppets 🇦🇴 🇦🇴 🇦🇴 🇦🇴

  • @TacBans
    @TacBans 3 роки тому +1394

    in case you're wondering: yes the meme from BO2 of "WE MUST FIGHT THE MPLA" was from the Angolan Civil War, the person saying it being Jonas Savimbi, leading UNITA.

  • @MSRLR
    @MSRLR 3 роки тому +557

    Tools for fighting an african civil war:
    -machete
    -ak47 dual mag w/ grenade launcher
    -child soldiers to man those weapons

    • @pj.sinclair
      @pj.sinclair 3 роки тому +53

      they do have a smaller hit box though, so it’s a good idea

    • @MSRLR
      @MSRLR 3 роки тому +70

      No african civil war would be complete without a toyota pick up truck w/ a 50 cal.

    • @shetos1233
      @shetos1233 3 роки тому +29

      Don't forget a free for all you can't have only two sides fighting a clear war gotta be atleast 5 militias

    • @MSRLR
      @MSRLR 3 роки тому +17

      @@shetos1233 5 militias, soviet, us, pakastani, chinese and british all backing opposing sides

    • @MSRLR
      @MSRLR 3 роки тому +26

      Dont forget the UN brokered cease fire that gets violated 100 times a day.

  • @begelzim
    @begelzim 3 роки тому +34

    One thing that's interesting about this conflict, is that it became so muddled that at one point there were Cuban soldiers defending MPLA oil rigs exporting oil to the U.S. from American backed UNITA soldiers who were trying to capture the 'american' oil rigs.

    • @TubeDisabuser
      @TubeDisabuser Рік тому

      Not that surprising. Consider that the United States is currently militarily occupying a chunk of Syria rich in oil and agriculture, both to steal the oil and prevent the Syrian government from rebuilding its war-devastated country.

    • @alanpennie
      @alanpennie Рік тому

      USA got into a right muddle about this war.

  • @croweman6515
    @croweman6515 3 роки тому +3350

    "STOP WATCHING THIS, BROTHER...
    WE MUST FIGHT THE MPLA!"

  • @pridelander06
    @pridelander06 3 роки тому +1279

    "But matters were complicated"
    A very common phrase when describing human history.

  • @winchesterchua3390
    @winchesterchua3390 3 роки тому +512

    *"HERE THEY COME, HERE THEY COME MY BROTHERS! FIGHT MY BROTHERS!!"*
    *"OUR JOURNEY TO VICTORY HAS BEGUN, DEATH TO THE MPLA"*

    • @joemama-mk4zz
      @joemama-mk4zz 3 роки тому +18

      I have some sad news my brothers the MPLA has won

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 роки тому +3

      @@joemama-mk4zz and they still rule Angola today

    • @SiPakRubah
      @SiPakRubah 3 роки тому +1

      @@joemama-mk4zz And Jonas Savimbi died few months before the war ended if I'm not mistaken

    • @meruthesuccubus3416
      @meruthesuccubus3416 2 роки тому +1

      @@SiPakRubah well shit welp MISSION FAILED WILL GET EM NEXT TIME

  • @vladimiralexanderlagos1477
    @vladimiralexanderlagos1477 3 роки тому +34

    You've got to love the massive short circuit in global politics needed to make Cuba and South Africa fight an undeclared war against each other.

    • @richlisola1
      @richlisola1 3 дні тому

      I think you’re overstating their enmity for one another. Cuba was fighting for communism, for the MPLA, more so than fighting South Africa.
      Likewise, South Africa was fighting its Border War, of which the Angolan War was just one theater.

  • @australianword3812
    @australianword3812 3 роки тому +600

    "Why did Cuba invade Angola?"
    Cuba invaded Angola?

    • @MC-Phillips
      @MC-Phillips 3 роки тому +35

      Cuba trying act to be like his big papa USSR.

    • @user-il3ql5ps2c
      @user-il3ql5ps2c 3 роки тому +4

      Обычная катка в HOI4

    • @trisblackshaw1640
      @trisblackshaw1640 3 роки тому

      Why *wouldn't* they invade Angola?

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 роки тому +3

      North Korea is now working in Africa. They've partnered with the Democratic Republic of the Congo numerous times in recent years.

    • @s_369
      @s_369 3 роки тому

      You should play black ops 2

  • @lprcn2532
    @lprcn2532 3 роки тому +410

    Teacher: today we will be learning about Cuba in angola
    me: *Visible Confusion*

    • @SP-rt4ig
      @SP-rt4ig 3 роки тому +23

      Black Ops II players: my time has come

    • @nowhereman6019
      @nowhereman6019 3 роки тому +4

      "What's an Angola?"

    • @SirFaceFone
      @SirFaceFone 3 роки тому +5

      More surprising part are schools teaching about this.

  • @zap3231
    @zap3231 3 роки тому +82

    For those wondering, MPLA stands for Movimento Popular de Liberação Angolana (Portuguese for Popular Movement for Angolan Liberation). No idea what UNITA stands for though.

    • @gerritkruger4014
      @gerritkruger4014 3 роки тому +28

      National Union For The Total Independence Of Angola

    • @gerritkruger4014
      @gerritkruger4014 3 роки тому +17

      Basically an alliance of anti communist groups

    • @zap3231
      @zap3231 3 роки тому +23

      @@gerritkruger4014 So União Nacional para a Independência Total da Angola?
      (If you can't tell, I'm Portuguese)

    • @gerritkruger4014
      @gerritkruger4014 3 роки тому +1

      @@zap3231 😂no thanks for that

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому +28

      It stands for
      U - Morte ao
      N - M
      I - P
      T - L
      A - A

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 3 роки тому +310

    South Africa: We got this bois
    Also South Africa: *Why do I hear Guantanamera?*

    • @HBC101TVStudios
      @HBC101TVStudios 3 роки тому +9

      You're everywhere

    • @G3700L
      @G3700L 3 роки тому +13

      @@HBC101TVStudios I swear to God I see him everywhere. He's got some good taste in UA-cam videos.

    • @ericgol7
      @ericgol7 3 роки тому +5

      @@G3700L The algorhythm is congregating us

    • @SeymoreTheDisappointed
      @SeymoreTheDisappointed 2 роки тому +2

      30000

  • @alexs_toy_barn
    @alexs_toy_barn 3 роки тому +1813

    so the first mission of black ops 2 is kinda accurate, i always thought it was all nonsense with the cuban military in africa but apparently its based on real history

    • @zddxddyddw
      @zddxddyddw 3 роки тому +459

      Cuba intevened in many foreign wars. It also helped Ethiopia during the Ogaden War, and fought Israel in the Yom Kippur War, to name a few. That tiny island made a big name for itself in the last half of the 20th century regarding warfare.

    • @kiandocherty3589
      @kiandocherty3589 3 роки тому +149

      @@zddxddyddw God bless those humanitarian crazy bastards.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +143

      You could’ve...googled it
      It’s how I got into history I played historical games and was like ‘did that happen Though?’ And looked it up

    • @kiandocherty3589
      @kiandocherty3589 3 роки тому +181

      @Wyatt Earp Look up Cuba`s doctor program and tell me they aren`t humanitarian.

    • @halowerder3356
      @halowerder3356 3 роки тому +62

      @@kiandocherty3589 that's like saying "look up hitlers first steps in politics" to prove he was a socialist
      (he was not)

  • @crocodileguy4319
    @crocodileguy4319 3 роки тому +788

    This entire thing sounds so off, it's like it's straight from hoi4.

    • @SlythinSern
      @SlythinSern 3 роки тому +35

      Cod black ops 2 beginning campaign

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 роки тому +18

      When is Paradox making their Cold War game?

    • @HugostarGames
      @HugostarGames 3 роки тому +16

      @@MajorMlgNoob
      *Poland first nation on the moon event popup*
      THEY DID WAT?!

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman 3 роки тому +5

      @@MajorMlgNoob It got canned years ago

    • @SpencerLemay
      @SpencerLemay 3 роки тому +5

      @@Fyrdman What a load of crap. Could easily make it possible to transfer saves from Hoi4->cold war game->Stellaris

  • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
    @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 3 роки тому +74

    The only thing missing in the video was the huge support the USSR gave in logistics and armaments, in addition to yearly monetary support, to Cuba to aid it in its intervention in Angola. The Cubans spilled their blood for their cause there, and the Soviets were the ones mostly paying for it. I remember Cubans in Angola constantly being referred to as surrogate troops, in the US press and other publications throughout the 1980's. With this aside, great video!

    • @justarandompersonininterne6583
      @justarandompersonininterne6583 2 роки тому +7

      @Joe Moer yeah and south africans returned home with nothing except losing.

    • @lcg3092
      @lcg3092 2 роки тому +5

      And the US support for FNLA, and then UNITA and South Africa. It's obvious that the 2 cold war super powers would not be blind to what was going on in Angola, even if it was not a top priority...

    • @_audacity2722
      @_audacity2722 Рік тому

      Yeah, scumbag US media always sees other countries being helped by another world power and say it's evil

    • @davideastman979
      @davideastman979 Рік тому +2

      @@lcg3092Yeah I’m sure KGB and CIA had advisors out there. No proof that they did though. However that is probably more likely than not.

    • @BG-it7hb
      @BG-it7hb Рік тому

      ​@@davideastman979 there is actually proof. An Ex-CIA agent wrote a book. It's called "in search of an enemy". Both powers where active. There actually where Romanian, East German and Soviet troops on the ground. As well as mercenaries from South Africa and Europe with US support

  • @jmalko9152
    @jmalko9152 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this episode!

  • @twothreebravo
    @twothreebravo 3 роки тому +252

    "The first question is 'Why Angola?'"
    0:20 I see what you did there.

    • @NoNo-hv2rb
      @NoNo-hv2rb 3 роки тому +9

      I don’t get it

    • @divinejudgement8502
      @divinejudgement8502 3 роки тому +43

      He says "well" and briefly shows a picture of a well

    • @johnfraire6931
      @johnfraire6931 3 роки тому +26

      Yeah, that joke was well done

    • @mrdmasiv2452
      @mrdmasiv2452 3 роки тому +3

      @@johnfraire6931 ba dum tss

    • @TerranRepublic0200
      @TerranRepublic0200 3 роки тому

      Because spainish and Portuguese are rivals i guess and their kids ......

  • @Muffincakeswithsugar
    @Muffincakeswithsugar 3 роки тому +545

    Can we give a salute to people like Spinning three plates and David Silverman? They've been supporting this channel forever and ever

  • @recethecrazy7972
    @recethecrazy7972 4 місяці тому

    makes me so happy to see history channel get millions of views

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 3 місяці тому

    Great video 👍🏻

  • @walid7084
    @walid7084 3 роки тому +1377

    When your so early there's no "Death to the MPLA" memes

    • @lucianogardelli10
      @lucianogardelli10 3 роки тому +28

      Jaim Rajin ..... I see ur a man of culture . But stop watching brother we must fight the MPLA 🎵🎶Du na na na naaaaaa na ne na na🎵🎶

    • @rayh6118
      @rayh6118 3 роки тому +29

      @@lucianogardelli10 our journey to victory has began
      DEATH TO THE MPLA

    • @MasterQ18
      @MasterQ18 3 роки тому +5

      @@rayh6118 NO

    • @FalkyRocket2222
      @FalkyRocket2222 2 роки тому +1

      yeah im late af and only found 2

    • @waffle6376
      @waffle6376 2 роки тому +1

      DEATH TO THE MPLA

  • @Thomas-ww1tp
    @Thomas-ww1tp 3 роки тому +819

    “Why did Cuba invade Angola?”
    Me: what?

    • @cgmason7568
      @cgmason7568 3 роки тому +26

      Black ops 2

    • @princesstinklepanties2720
      @princesstinklepanties2720 3 роки тому +21

      Cuba had money to try breeding cat sized cows and invade angola, but the cars were from the 60's. *communism*

    • @dottore3870
      @dottore3870 3 роки тому +12

      @@princesstinklepanties2720 Actually it was all the way around. Cuba went on mercenary missions to other third world countries. It was a way to funnel money to the country. It was called Internationalists service. There were military branches but also civilian particularly health and infrastructure (roads, water plants etc). Not great quality but it was a way to make money and advance in the system.

    • @tacodias
      @tacodias 3 роки тому +1

      As a portuguese this was the first time I’ve heard of Cuban and ZA in the Angolan civil war as well.... mind blown

    • @isu3302
      @isu3302 3 роки тому

      I knew about it since my dad was almost drafted into the war so when veterans came back they talked about it and on how Cuba was the first to set foot after the Portuguese withdrawal from Angola

  • @jeffsanders1609
    @jeffsanders1609 2 роки тому +16

    My favorite part of the MPLA declaring Democracy in Angola is when José Eduardo dos Santos was President of Angola from 1979-2017
    A shining example of Democracy

    • @luukdevoogd1071
      @luukdevoogd1071 Рік тому

      'hmmm, I wonder why he kept being re-elected?'

    • @dchenkin02
      @dchenkin02 8 місяців тому

      Social Democracy is still labeled "socialism" in the United States.

  • @ryanjapan3113
    @ryanjapan3113 2 роки тому +5

    2:52 Well, I’m not complaining.

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 3 роки тому +502

    My dad was gonna be sent off to Angola when he was in the Cuban Militias a s Truck driver but he was so short he was allowed a pardon to not serve cause he could barely drive

    • @caras2004
      @caras2004 3 роки тому +30

      Is it okay to laugh?
      I'm 6'6"

    • @class.C
      @class.C 3 роки тому +61

      That's fucking hilarious too bad his son became a weeb, where do you live now tho, US?

    • @RyoKasai25
      @RyoKasai25 3 роки тому +13

      Being a manlet saved his life, how funny and curious.

    • @Brakiros
      @Brakiros 3 роки тому +5

      @@RyoKasai25 well when you're like old man peanut from the simpsons and you can barely touch the pedals it's not conducive to military service

    • @2prize
      @2prize 3 роки тому +10

      MANLETS RISE UP

  • @xXageraXx
    @xXageraXx 3 роки тому +221

    0:33 “DEATH TO THE MPLA!!!!!” -that one guy from black ops 2

  • @Siptom369
    @Siptom369 2 роки тому +2

    The well joke is one of the best running gags on this channel

  • @EmuInDenial
    @EmuInDenial 5 місяців тому

    This 3-minute video helped me understand the Angolan civil war better than documentaries.

  • @hassam363
    @hassam363 3 роки тому +326

    Cuba played a part in a lot of African wars. For example they basically won the Ethiopian Somali war for the Ethiopian side.

    • @grontelp77
      @grontelp77 3 роки тому +37

      Great point. I believe Cuba sent Che to advise the Algerian and Polisario anticolonial movements as well

    • @rodrigomejia953
      @rodrigomejia953 3 роки тому +15

      Cuba probably intervened directly or indirectly in more countries than the USSR xD (Ignoring Eastern Europe ofc).

    • @xernobell7845
      @xernobell7845 3 роки тому +25

      Ya they helped algeria against morocco in the sand war 1963 , they were truly very helpful towards african social countries

    • @ahmedamine24
      @ahmedamine24 3 роки тому +4

      @@xernobell7845 The Morocco/Algeria war was as inevitable politicallyas it was morally senseless. Truly a deplorable outcome.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 3 роки тому +1

      @@grontelp77 I love the song about "comandante Che Guevara" but when I sing it I replace his evil name with something decent like "Don fulano" (de tal).

  • @nickmcgargill6216
    @nickmcgargill6216 3 роки тому +876

    Cuba invaded Angola because they had the financial backing of James Bisonnette, the Byzantinian financier extraordinaire.

  • @ronaldschild157
    @ronaldschild157 3 роки тому +18

    I remember in the '80's listening to a lot of news stories about AIDS in Cuba and how the involvement with Angola was cited as a transmission factor. Many Cuba soldiers contracted AIDS in Angola and brought it back home to the island nation. Of course, this was in a time when AIDS was still a taboo subject in Cuba, barely less so in the U.S., and it appears a convenient scapegoat was needed to assign blame. Later, some of the U.S. media reported many Cubans with AIDS were simply sent off to sanitariums to die of the disease.

    • @Marquinhos1901
      @Marquinhos1901 2 роки тому

      Yes I remember there was a myth told in South America that it was Cuban soldiers who had sex with the blue monkeys that brought it back.

  • @PaidAMaluCachu
    @PaidAMaluCachu 3 роки тому +2

    This is why I love this channel, I read titles like this and think "hang on, they did what??"

  • @robezy0
    @robezy0 3 роки тому +1308

    And that's how Castro and Mandela became besties

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 3 роки тому +109

      Real recognizes real, from one Titan among men to another

    • @fabiojr8082
      @fabiojr8082 3 роки тому +37

      @@degamispoudegamis dayummm owned

    • @glamorousman4013
      @glamorousman4013 3 роки тому +4

      Obama

    • @glamorousman4013
      @glamorousman4013 3 роки тому +19

      @@degamispoudegamis Mandela just liked everyone that helped him

    • @theobuniel9643
      @theobuniel9643 3 роки тому +38

      Mandela pre-Robben Island was very much a leftist revolutionary; dude went to Algeria to learn how to successfully perform guerrilla warfare.

  • @scottgrey3337
    @scottgrey3337 3 роки тому +391

    When you just wanted to be independent of your colonial overlord, Portugal, but find your country now in a proxy war between the superpowers of South Africa and Cuba

    • @vnorm2907
      @vnorm2907 3 роки тому +26

      LMFAO, South Africa an Cuba a super power? That's a joke. South Africa was a puppet of the United States and the United Kingdom. Cuba did what was correct, they Angola the same chance Cuba had been given. They help to throw the yoke of imperialism off and choose their own destiny.

    • @scottgrey3337
      @scottgrey3337 3 роки тому +104

      @@vnorm2907 “That’s a joke.” Ty, that’s why I wrote it

    • @vnorm2907
      @vnorm2907 3 роки тому +1

      @@scottgrey3337 I was speaking on it being a proxy war between South Africa and Cuba.

    • @scottgrey3337
      @scottgrey3337 3 роки тому +23

      @@vnorm2907 Fair enough, but if we can agree that I’m not seriously claiming that either side is a superpower, than I’m also probably not literally describing the actual political situation there.

    • @SeymoreTheDisappointed
      @SeymoreTheDisappointed 2 роки тому +13

      @@vnorm2907 Cuba doing what was correct, ye because there totally weren't other reasons for doing so

  • @philliplyn2692
    @philliplyn2692 Рік тому

    Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

  • @davideastman979
    @davideastman979 Рік тому +4

    Interesting to hear about other battles fought by other countries in the 20th century, that wasn’t WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Gulf War, or Somalia. If it weren’t for HM, I probably wouldn’t ever know that other modern countries fight and go to war as well. Sure I could google it, but I wouldn’t know where to start. This channel makes it informative and entertaining at the same time. Thanks HM

  • @zavijer
    @zavijer 3 роки тому +286

    I remember watching "The Gods Must Be Crazy 2" as a kid in the late 80s, and being baffled about the gag with 2 soldiers, one of them white Cuban the other black African, and I just couldn't understand what why how in the hell is Cuban army fighting a war in Africa?

    • @thunderlord-nsr6153
      @thunderlord-nsr6153 3 роки тому +13

      You've seen it too?
      That was my childhood favourite.

    • @vnorm2907
      @vnorm2907 3 роки тому +33

      Cuba was in Angola fighting against imperialism!!!

    • @davidkazira6060
      @davidkazira6060 3 роки тому +7

      You just blew my mind. I hadn't thought of that and I love that movie.

    • @vnorm2907
      @vnorm2907 3 роки тому +4

      Little know fact, North Korea also fought on Africa soil against Imperialism.

    • @vnorm2907
      @vnorm2907 3 роки тому +16

      @Caesar Sanchez lucky for who? I have been to Angola and Cuba. The people of Cuba are much better off.
      Both Cuba and Angola are poor, but the people of Cuba have Great Free Health Care, Great Free Education and Cuba is only poor because of the blockade. Angola is poor because of Western Imperialism, that places corrupt leaders in charge that sellout their people, resources, and country.

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 3 роки тому +103

    I was a young teenager when this happened, and I REALLY didn’t understand it. This video would have helped me a lot back then. I just saw newspaper and TV reports about Cuban troops in Angola and thought “That’s pretty weird!” The articles and TV reports didn’t explain why Cuba was there, which made it hard for a teenager to understand what was going on. I just figured it was just more Cold War weirdness (which was pretty common back then).

    • @elierfernandezguerra
      @elierfernandezguerra Рік тому +5

      Apartheid was the reason, that is why Cuba was called to help with fighting it in Angola. It is almost never said on TV or any analysis.

    • @Befree898
      @Befree898 Рік тому +1

      Cuba in fact was there by request of the Soviet Union who supplied all the logistics and armament for the war and Cuba supplied all the manpower or cannon meat as they say.

    • @Befree898
      @Befree898 Рік тому +1

      ​@@elierfernandezguerra yeah right, Fidel Castro whose country population is like 80% blacks or mixed races cared about apartheid. So explain then to me why the government elites of Cuba are whites in a 95% composition l 😆😆😆
      Probably Fidel Castro loved apartheid too.

    • @TubeDisabuser
      @TubeDisabuser Рік тому +1

      @@Befree898 -- In fact, Cuba sent troops and its own armaments at the request of the MPLA in government.

    • @Befree898
      @Befree898 Рік тому +1

      @@TubeDisabuser all armament Cuba ever had, and still have today was DONATED by the Soviet Union. Only thing they have bought over the years is some police gear. They are totally broken and they were even more broken before the war in Angola started.
      I said donated because Putin a few years ago in 2014, just cancelled the 90% of Cuban debt to Russia ascending to 35 billions of dollars. So Cuba still owes 3.5 billions to Russia and you can be sure they aren't paying it either.

  • @DragonJohn
    @DragonJohn 2 роки тому +3

    "The Gods Must Be Crazy 2" finally makes sense. I never understood why there was a Cuban soldier in Africa but never got around to finding out.

    • @carlos-ju7ce
      @carlos-ju7ce 2 роки тому

      That was a crappy movie. The first one was much better. We will likely never see either again, as they're no longer PC

  • @austinshaw2316
    @austinshaw2316 3 роки тому +13

    0:20 that well joke did not go unappreciated.

  • @Jonasm501
    @Jonasm501 3 роки тому +265

    Cuba couldn't have done it without James Bisonette's financial support.

    • @lprcn2532
      @lprcn2532 3 роки тому +2

      james bissonnete meme begins

    • @roskcity
      @roskcity 3 роки тому +4

      The day he isn't a patiron is the day the world ends.

    • @jamesbissonette4438
      @jamesbissonette4438 3 роки тому +1

      Thats not true

  • @Edgelord-rn9he
    @Edgelord-rn9he 3 роки тому +48

    0:30 I remember a game where one important character said "Death to the MPLA!"

    • @theobuniel9643
      @theobuniel9643 3 роки тому +4

      Well the guy on the right is the important character you're talking about; his name is Jonas Savimbi.

    • @thesummergamer7245
      @thesummergamer7245 2 роки тому +1

      cod black ops 2

  • @victormanuelfonsecasanchez9610

    Very well explained

  • @disappointedmess209
    @disappointedmess209 3 роки тому +90

    oh yeah I remember that, my great uncle served in the war
    as a cuban solder and brought back souvenirs

    • @glamorousman4013
      @glamorousman4013 3 роки тому +7

      That’s dope I’m anti communist but he sounds cool since they were probably forced to

    • @cubanenjoyer1325
      @cubanenjoyer1325 3 роки тому +4

      A friend of my parents also served there

    • @glamorousman4013
      @glamorousman4013 3 роки тому +1

      @@cubanenjoyer1325 that’s cool

    • @ruthswann88
      @ruthswann88 3 роки тому +8

      I remember reading for school comparing Cuban intervention in Angola to US intervention in Vietnam that a big difference was that Cuba never faced a shortage of volunteers to go to Angola
      That might be overall though and Cuba may have had to force specialists to go

    • @PalkkiTT
      @PalkkiTT 2 роки тому +9

      @@glamorousman4013 Why are you against communsm?

  • @lucianobessoni6937
    @lucianobessoni6937 3 роки тому +33

    Cuba fighting South Africa in Angola has such an AoE2 energy.

  • @etienneporras7252
    @etienneporras7252 Рік тому

    I literally only know about this war because of the "Gods Must be Crazy" movie. Well done!

  • @animalanimal7939
    @animalanimal7939 3 роки тому

    Hey cmon. More content . Your the best on UA-cam

  • @tencorgmail4075
    @tencorgmail4075 3 роки тому +174

    Cuba: Central America is free Communist real estate!
    US: What did I just hear?
    Cuba: Umm..... Let support Angola instead.

    • @Khajiidaro
      @Khajiidaro 3 роки тому +7

      US: Yeah, thats what I thought, Russia.

    • @abodalashkar5686
      @abodalashkar5686 3 роки тому +10

      @Jay Kemme they didn't send their military

    • @nadie516
      @nadie516 3 роки тому +7

      @Jay Kemme there was no direct action by the cuban army in the continent, just training and funding

    • @steuben6372
      @steuben6372 3 роки тому

      @Jay Kemme that’s the point

    • @cubanreemachine9592
      @cubanreemachine9592 3 роки тому +2

      @Jay Kemme they got involed in angola for two reasons they would be paid by Mpla government to help in war and cuba would get most resources from angola.

  • @JoseHernandez-bv5gr
    @JoseHernandez-bv5gr 3 роки тому +74

    1:16 the fact that History Matters used the FMLN over the Sandinistas makes me proud of being Salvadoran.

    • @codyarcher3263
      @codyarcher3263 3 роки тому +1

      @Non Filios Tuos Videbis Vacillantes 'throws history book'

    • @JoseHernandez-bv5gr
      @JoseHernandez-bv5gr 3 роки тому +3

      @Non Filios Tuos Videbis Vacillantes Frente Farabundo Marti de Liberación Nacional
      Or in english: National Liberation Front Farabundo Marti

    • @hahaha5290
      @hahaha5290 3 роки тому

      @@JoseHernandez-bv5gr and what were they trying to archive ?

    • @JoseHernandez-bv5gr
      @JoseHernandez-bv5gr 3 роки тому +3

      @@hahaha5290 overthrow the goverment. Instrestingly the army deposed the facist salvadoran leaders already but the FMLN rebelled anyway.

    • @alkzavaleta7876
      @alkzavaleta7876 3 роки тому +2

      @@hahaha5290 and after the peace treaty they became a legal political party. They won the presidental election in 2009 and 2014. They are decaying after the last elections (2019).

  • @BG-it7hb
    @BG-it7hb Рік тому +1

    Great summary, also worth mentioning that on addition to the named countries, German, Romanian and Soviet troops where on the ground as well as many European mercenaries involved.

  • @elvastan
    @elvastan Рік тому +4

    You didn't mention this, but I was reading government documents at the time, the cuban fighters arrived mere _HOURS_ before luanda (the capital) was going to fall, that's how desperate the situation was

  • @adrielsebastian5216
    @adrielsebastian5216 3 роки тому +34

    0:20 please don't ever stop with the _well_ thing

  • @bluecup1129
    @bluecup1129 3 роки тому +130

    Angola: hey um who are you
    Cuba: *YOUR BEST FRIEND*
    Angola: what

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify 3 роки тому +15

      Cuba: well your only friend, that makes me your best FRIEND!!

    • @riko_sandokan
      @riko_sandokan 3 роки тому +5

      It would also become and an Ethiopia's best friend.

    • @adrielsebastian5216
      @adrielsebastian5216 3 роки тому +6

      *The Internationale plays in the distance*

    • @Admiral45-10
      @Admiral45-10 3 роки тому +2

      *Meanwhile Polish dictator visits North Korea*

  • @benmaharaj6854
    @benmaharaj6854 2 роки тому +1

    You should do one on Namibia's war for independence from South Africa, which is connected to this topic too.

  • @hornet370
    @hornet370 3 роки тому +156

    Do “why Malaysia used the American flag” next

    • @Snoweagle0
      @Snoweagle0 3 роки тому +10

      Federal system yo

    • @hornet370
      @hornet370 3 роки тому +8

      @@Snoweagle0 the American flag has a lot of meanings too it other than the style of government

    • @yassineszn17
      @yassineszn17 3 роки тому +6

      Also liberia

    • @danielchew8739
      @danielchew8739 3 роки тому +16

      Look up the flag of the Majapahit as well as the flag of the East India Company. That's where the inspirations for the Malaysia's flag come from.

    • @lightningfletch5598
      @lightningfletch5598 3 роки тому +21

      @@yassineszn17 Well Liberia was founded by Americans as a home for free slaves. That’s why the Liberian flag and American flag are similar. But that’s not the only American influence left on Liberia. For example, Monrovia, the capital of Liberia, named after US President James Monroe.

  • @olivercuenca4109
    @olivercuenca4109 3 роки тому +999

    United States: “we don’t like Cuba, but we don’t like South Africa more”

    • @matheuroux5134
      @matheuroux5134 3 роки тому +187

      The CIA helped SA a lot in the war

    • @canzuk6621
      @canzuk6621 3 роки тому +163

      US and UK supplied lots of weapons and equipment to help South Africa. That is why when Soviet Union fell, the Western aid to South Africa stopped and Apartied couldnt survive anymore.

    • @Gambito99100
      @Gambito99100 3 роки тому +351

      It's actually more like "we fucking hate Cuba, and we like South Africa, but liking South Africa will get us cancelled on Twitter"

    • @TheButterMinecart1
      @TheButterMinecart1 3 роки тому +23

      @@Gambito99100 Exactly

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 3 роки тому +37

      The US were arming and funding two "rebel" movements in Angola to assist South Africa install a puppet regime in Angola. The aim was to have an Apartheid Bloc of racist or puppet states surrounding South Africa, composed of Angola, South West Africa (Namibia), Rhodesia and Mozambique, but lost the latter two after they became independent.

  • @danielblue4460
    @danielblue4460 2 роки тому +3

    From the events narrated, it was Cuba who lost a lot in technicality.
    Their proxy won, but got dumped a year later. 😐

    • @bombocrusty4251
      @bombocrusty4251 Рік тому

      Tbf Angola and the MPLA still has excellent relations with Cuba, they just aren't into the whole Marxism stuff considering the Soviet Union basically collapsed the second they won their war lol

  • @ComissarYarrick
    @ComissarYarrick Рік тому +1

    "Proxy war between Cuba and South Africa" - that is something stright out of HoI4 with way too many mods running.

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn 3 роки тому +26

    Ok
    Which one of you played hearts of iron in a very sick way?
    And didn't invited me!

  • @dbeast6667
    @dbeast6667 3 роки тому +19

    History matters is one of the most entertaining channels combining well researched history with humour and delivered in a great way so I really hope that one day they can make longer videos again and UA-cam changes it’s stupid policies

  • @sadalbatross846
    @sadalbatross846 3 роки тому +21

    South Africa: Our economy is better!
    The world: That’s cool, just remember, you lost to cigar smoking cubans

    • @theitguy6652
      @theitguy6652 2 роки тому +1

      the cigar smoking had one of the most advanced army at the time

    • @spannerintheworks1190
      @spannerintheworks1190 2 роки тому +3

      Not according to the death toll.

    • @addyred1861
      @addyred1861 2 роки тому +1

      @@spannerintheworks1190 who withdrew? Will is what matters

    • @cometive6075
      @cometive6075 2 роки тому

      @@addyred1861 Your opinion is delusionally unrealistic.

    • @thenomad47
      @thenomad47 2 роки тому

      We didn't lose, it was a draw

  • @conejeitor
    @conejeitor 3 роки тому +2

    “It was the first time that a country had come from another continent not to take something away, but to help Africans to achieve their freedom.” - Mandela.

  • @kevanpoernomo6460
    @kevanpoernomo6460 3 роки тому +201

    Do one on the Indonesian anti-communist purges. Millions died because of it and a CIA-backed dictator was installed.

    • @souvikrc4499
      @souvikrc4499 3 роки тому +21

      I know, not a pleasant moment in the Cold War.

    • @ShinigamiInuyasha777
      @ShinigamiInuyasha777 3 роки тому +5

      Wait...Indonesia is in South America???

    • @juanguzman9031
      @juanguzman9031 3 роки тому +27

      Shocked to hear the cia would do something like this

    • @ahmedrizk300
      @ahmedrizk300 3 роки тому +34

      @@juanguzman9031 I'm not. Despite much surprise and shock in the UN (which amounts to nothing) states like the USA (and other states, mind you.) think in a very opportunistic manner, and the USA was no different. I'm sure you'd find dozens of such incidents made by the USSR too, like its invasion of Afghanistan, its involvement in Eastern Europe and the various wars it supported across Africa, which, unsurprisingly, were as bloody as they come.
      I blame neither state (From a purely apathetic point of view) in their opportunism, I blame the leaders who either were too naïve or didn't bother to think that these states were merely using them and that when they outlive their usefulness, they'll be deposed and, surprise surprise, not have much popular backing in the streets. It's what happened to Indonesia's leader. I'm no American or Russian, but I think this is what it amounts to.
      Obviously you could have said that comment as a joke, but I wanted to share my opinion.

    • @pancholopez8829
      @pancholopez8829 3 роки тому +9

      @@souvikrc4499 when it comes to the Cold War, when is it ever a good moment? I do admit as a US American, my government did more damage for the most that I'm more amazed we're still in somewhat good terms with the rest of the world. You tell me on how that works.

  • @J0rgLto
    @J0rgLto 3 роки тому +14

    Great Episode! My Father Served in the Cuban Army as an Artillery Operator during the second war/phase, he was Conscripted at 16-17

    • @M.G.R.-YT
      @M.G.R.-YT Рік тому

      I see that my home country of south africa and cuba both used conscription

  • @soumikmohapatra4669
    @soumikmohapatra4669 2 роки тому +3

    Angola: *Becomes communist
    South Africa: * declares war
    Cuba: *Intervenes in the name of Marx and actually win against South Africa
    Angola: *Becomes democratic an year later
    South Africa: "I see this as an absolute win"

  • @D0cSwiss
    @D0cSwiss 3 роки тому +6

    This is probably one of those videos that make people say "Why did WHO do WHAT?"

  • @civ27
    @civ27 3 роки тому +71

    fun fact: at one point, Cuban troops guarded US oil fields in Angola against Marxist-Leninist rebels

    • @HeadsFullOfEyeballs
      @HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 роки тому +48

      That must have been awkward for everybody involved.

    • @inesfi66166
      @inesfi66166 3 роки тому +4

      Lmao.

    • @diegogalvan1810
      @diegogalvan1810 2 роки тому +3

      Never thought I’d ever read something like that

    • @hachwarwickshire292
      @hachwarwickshire292 2 роки тому +3

      When US attacked Libya in an attempt to kill Gaddafi .... heavily armed troops turned up at the oil installations in Southern Libya. The American and British workers were very concerned 😟
      (Gaddafi had sent extra troops with instructions to ensure no oil workers were ill treated, harmed or attacked in any way.) He was worried local leaders or units might assault the foreigners.
      Nice that he thought of them

    • @joelbarroso9386
      @joelbarroso9386 Рік тому +2

      please tell me you have some intel of the source that is to good to not know

  • @SaymonNascimento
    @SaymonNascimento 3 роки тому +33

    I've lived in Angola for eight years. Thanks for this video. Maybe someday you could make a part II about the civil war after the 1992 elections. Or another about Cabinda. Lots of stories to tell in Africa!

  • @EnjoySackLunch
    @EnjoySackLunch 3 роки тому +1

    The WELL splice gets me everytime

  • @veerzara3857
    @veerzara3857 2 роки тому

    The animations are really funny 🤣. Wars become like you are watching episodes from Tom and Jerry.

  • @zidanariqi64
    @zidanariqi64 3 роки тому +140

    "Stop Watching this brother, we have to fight the MPLA"

  • @yung_cheezy
    @yung_cheezy 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for answering the questions we didn't know we had ❤

  • @firstnamelastname9215
    @firstnamelastname9215 3 роки тому +4

    Lol “ask Che” that’s dark but I love it

  • @j.g.s.b9994
    @j.g.s.b9994 3 роки тому +1

    1:17 Salvador Cayetano Carpio and the FMLN, nice reference to the Salvadorian Civil War

  • @gerhardtvanrooyen8668
    @gerhardtvanrooyen8668 3 роки тому +4

    I truly enjoy that you elabirate on South Africa's history. I hope you find more of these stories that you can show. It is truly inspiring to see my home country being more recognized.

    • @M.G.R.-YT
      @M.G.R.-YT Рік тому +1

      Of coarse i would like SA to not be insulted in comments as a "racist"or"fasciast state"

    • @BlackDoveNYC
      @BlackDoveNYC Рік тому +2

      @@M.G.R.-YT But it was racist and fascist at the time.

    • @thenomad47
      @thenomad47 10 місяців тому

      @@BlackDoveNYC Racist yes, Fascist no, not even close.

  • @danethancoronaperez8216
    @danethancoronaperez8216 3 роки тому +55

    Cuba: "Bueno, lo intentamos"

  • @langalafaoriho455
    @langalafaoriho455 Рік тому +5

    Who said Cuba 🇨🇺 invaded Angola , Cuba helped us Africans to fight against settlers

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba 11 місяців тому +1

      According to tankies it's helping when they do it but an evil invasion when Americans do it.

    • @zixiv3144
      @zixiv3144 9 місяців тому

      @@MegrelMamba Because when the communists did it it was to kick out the gross apartheid state. when America does it they install dictators

  • @mitchtherighteous
    @mitchtherighteous 3 роки тому

    Can you do a brief history of how Party Boy Co or anarcho flash became a subscriber?

  • @EinarEngvig
    @EinarEngvig 3 роки тому +12

    This is awesome. You'd do great covering the Ogaden War too. Definitely one of the most Cold War-ish moments of the Cold War.

  • @jbk19xx57
    @jbk19xx57 3 роки тому +4

    As a History fan, I never really understood this conflict growing up, if they video was done back then, it would have been GREAT help.

  • @wmstaceybutts4953
    @wmstaceybutts4953 Рік тому

    Great history

  • @gabespiro8902
    @gabespiro8902 Рік тому +2

    My dad served in the South African military during this…. He didn’t see any action because he was stationed in Namibia (then South West Africa) as part of anti aircraft unit and well, the Angolans didn’t have aircraft so he spent his time pursuing German girls

  • @THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL
    @THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL 3 роки тому +45

    Oh, so that's were the MPLA meme came from

  • @firmanimad
    @firmanimad 3 роки тому +20

    Jonas Savimbi, the leader of UNITA and the "death to the MPLA" meme guy, was originally Marxist. He changed side to secure aid from the US and South Africa.

    • @toontrooper4103
      @toontrooper4103 2 роки тому +5

      I looked that up because of your comment and I was surprised to see it's true. I didn't find why he switched though. I'm guessing he was more interested in obtaining power than he was to create any sort of different society. Nothing but another warlord from the little I've seen.