Why did South Africa Give up its Nukes? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
    @cormacmacsuibhne2867 5 років тому +9557

    Please do a video on why Namibia is no longer a part of South Africa.

    • @ITR933
      @ITR933 5 років тому +313

      @@DoReMi123acb I mean you're not wrong

    • @Hannodb1961
      @Hannodb1961 5 років тому +1162

      Because they were never part of SA to begin with. After WW1, the German colony was given to South Africa as a mandate, although it was never intended to be part of South Africa. At some stage, it was seen as a fifth province in South Africa, but internationally, it was always seen as a seperate entity.

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 5 років тому +40

      Interesting

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow 5 років тому +255

      @@Hannodb1961 Right, basically a colony that happened to be right next to the colonizing power.

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 5 років тому +16

      @@DoReMi123acb do you have any proof to support your claim?

  • @peterg76yt
    @peterg76yt 5 років тому +5402

    It's taken 28 years but that shattering sound was the perfect way to concisely represent the break-up of the Soviet Union.

  • @Sphere723
    @Sphere723 5 років тому +2848

    Just to add a little something. In September 1979 the Vela Incident occurred in the ocean halfway between S. Africa and Antarctica. A US satellite system detected a flash which was more than likely a nuclear explosion. The specific location and timing meant it should have gone undetected except one of the satellites in the global detection system which had been listed as inoperable was in fact still in working order and captured the flash. S. Africa denied it was a test, and the US quickly changed to official story to it likely being a natural event. But it probably was a clandestine small nuclear test, either done by S. Africa, Israel, or the two countries working together.

    • @danielforrest2952
      @danielforrest2952 4 роки тому +42

      I’m glad someone mentioned this

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 4 роки тому +22

      Nice piece of context, thank you.

    • @capie4760
      @capie4760 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you

    • @zionj104
      @zionj104 4 роки тому +78

      Israel's nuke policy is I think pretty clever. Neither confirm or deny.

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 4 роки тому +94

      It's a badly kept secret anyway. SA and Israel probably DID work together with a test.

  • @adambrewer576
    @adambrewer576 2 роки тому +674

    South Africa at this time is probably one of the few countries since 1945 who could claim to have got rid of nukes and be genuinely believed

    • @grimaldus1967
      @grimaldus1967 Рік тому +68

      And when you look at the state of SA in present day it's a good job they don't have nukes.

    • @rosslansberg6323
      @rosslansberg6323 Рік тому +1

      Erm I don't think its hard to dissarm a nuke and then re activate it or whatever. It's a matter of we had them , we probably still have them , you guys know how these things work so just saying we had them doesn't mean we don't have them. I don't work for the army I'm just born and uneducated here. I like to think that there are new ones they just not "plugged in yet"

    • @chisangamumba2961
      @chisangamumba2961 Рік тому +12

      They did it out of necessity not because of some altruistic reason.

    • @wlpret
      @wlpret Рік тому

      We could not let the terrorists (ANC) have nukes. They steel and break everything!

    • @inoppi
      @inoppi Рік тому +9

      @@rosslansberg6323 South Africa still has a stockpile of weapon grade uranium so building a new weapon wouldn't be too hard as it's the enrichment that's the tricky part. For a bomb that is, using it in a missile would require much more effort.
      For proper disarmament this highly enriched uranium should be mixed with lower grade uranium and refined into nuclear fuel to be useful. This is what US and Russia have done with a bunch of their decommissioned nuclear weapons.

  • @50shekels
    @50shekels 5 років тому +8939

    “Our nuclear weapons will be used for peaceful purposes”
    - _Generic dictator_

    • @viktorsov8729
      @viktorsov8729 5 років тому +622

      "We come in peace lmao"
      - Gandhi

    • @CommunistLlama
      @CommunistLlama 5 років тому +118

      @@Baddy187 depends on your definition of dictator

    • @Heligoland360
      @Heligoland360 5 років тому +243

      @@CommunistLlama No it doesn't. You could argue that South Africa was Aristicratic, but South Africa was never just ruled by one man with absolute power.

    • @AllPileup
      @AllPileup 5 років тому +15

      Just like Iran

    • @atlast1253
      @atlast1253 5 років тому +84

      Reminds me of a scene from the 2012 movie “The Dictator”

  • @martinfawkes595
    @martinfawkes595 5 років тому +15623

    History matters: why did South Africa give up its Nukes?
    Me:South Africa had nukes?

    • @jokuvaan5175
      @jokuvaan5175 5 років тому +414

      @@DoReMi123acb Zimbabwe hasn't always been a shithole?

    • @DoReMi123acb
      @DoReMi123acb 5 років тому +493

      @@jokuvaan5175 Yeah......Rhodesia. I have several black friends from the country who left because of political violence, intimidation, and poverty. They speak highly of what it use to be and hate what is now.

    • @uioplkhj
      @uioplkhj 5 років тому +320

      @@DoReMi123acb Rhodesia was a country founded by a white business man who exploited africa

    • @FoggyMcFogFace
      @FoggyMcFogFace 5 років тому +383

      @@DoReMi123acb lol, someone supporting Rhodesia has "black friends", sure haven't heard that one before

    • @andychen5579
      @andychen5579 5 років тому +22

      Jami Wait Sandy’s a girl?

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 5 років тому +5963

    We’ll never give up our weapons

    • @TotalDrganMania
      @TotalDrganMania 5 років тому +449

      Why should you my Supreme Leader?

    • @pusspussmckitten
      @pusspussmckitten 5 років тому +283

      What if we throw in your very own McDonalds, KFC and Wendy’s?!

    • @tjb_6203
      @tjb_6203 5 років тому +155

      Never let them get you, Supreme Leader!

    • @someonehere7783
      @someonehere7783 5 років тому +123

      @@岛鹏 how dear you mock the Supreme leader of best korea,time for re-education

    • @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva
      @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva 5 років тому +38

      Thanks Kim, very cool!

  • @daudasheni6845
    @daudasheni6845 3 роки тому +1270

    Being born and raised in South Africa, this was surprisingly accurate

    • @who-ny5oe
      @who-ny5oe 3 роки тому +39

      Before this I never knew that south Africa had nuclear weapons

    • @MrJem300
      @MrJem300 3 роки тому +32

      Apart from the pronunciations

    • @mathijs8537
      @mathijs8537 2 роки тому +13

      Ik hoop dat ik ooit naar zuid Afrika kan

    • @mokushmasmo6009
      @mokushmasmo6009 2 роки тому +9

      Im surprised you can read

    • @solitudeguard3036
      @solitudeguard3036 2 роки тому

      @@mokushmasmo6009 fucking racist

  • @MISAKIBeats
    @MISAKIBeats 5 років тому +697

    "We had Nukes" lmao, that's what you call a serious silent threat that no one ever knew about.

    • @dirkvanvelden8378
      @dirkvanvelden8378 3 роки тому +17

      I always thought this was common knowledge. But my parents were South African.

    • @bhekisambulo5733
      @bhekisambulo5733 3 роки тому +1

      bombs are stil there at mahlaba ndlovu

    • @bhekisambulo5733
      @bhekisambulo5733 3 роки тому

      chief we are led by mafia s you will never understand maybe they already build another one the way these allied powers respect this county .

    • @kntrsh
      @kntrsh 3 роки тому +22

      Same as Israel still does today. Officially they don't confirm, but they have given enough hints through the year to guarantee deterrence. Btw SA and Israel worked together in their respective nuclear programmes.

    • @BigSleepyOx
      @BigSleepyOx 3 роки тому +9

      But it reminds me of Dr. Strangelove: A nuclear deterrent is useless if you don't announce that you have it. So it was a strange policy to have nukes but keep it secret.
      Edit: Or maybe it was like Israel's nukes, which everyone knows exist, but Israel has not *officially* declared it.

  • @ARKOVZ
    @ARKOVZ 5 років тому +4765

    "Can't leave them nuks to them blacks"
    - Some Politicians

    • @taethegreat7577
      @taethegreat7577 5 років тому +319

      @JOHN CENA *laughs in Obama*

    • @vatanak8146
      @vatanak8146 5 років тому +199

      @@taethegreat7577 obama was mixed race

    • @LiftForYockey
      @LiftForYockey 5 років тому +418

      @Aggressive Tubesock You say that like its a bad thing.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 5 років тому +287

      @@LiftForYockey Or like every other race isn't even MORE racist. :D

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 5 років тому +110

      I'm black but would you trust nuclear weapons to both black and white governments? Hell no.

  • @drakemerwin
    @drakemerwin 5 років тому +1827

    US intervention in Central and South America during the cold war would be a great next video!

    • @jurisprudens
      @jurisprudens 5 років тому +95

      I thought, the entire Latin American history in 1800-2000 was one big US intervention!)

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn 5 років тому +64

      1800: UK
      1900: US

    • @jurisprudens
      @jurisprudens 5 років тому +5

      GarkKahn What about Monroe doctrine?

    • @metametodo
      @metametodo 5 років тому +31

      @@GarkKahn The UK made in the 19th century relatively small and not much significant interventions in the Americas in general, apart from their few colonies. The UK was way too focused on big riches in the Old World in the 1800s in India, Persian Gulf, China, Pakistan and India again.
      During the 1800s the US already had a bigger influence on the Central and South America than the UK ever had, like the comment above states on the Monroe Doctrine.

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn 5 років тому +14

      Just a few examples
      Uk invaded the viceroyalty of rio de la plata twice which caused riot among the people because spanish authorities fled while civilians repelled both invasions by themselves (prelude for independence wars)
      Uk participated in the negotiations for uruguayan independence in order to protect british propierties in the region. Uruguay was like south american switzerland during almost all the regional history. And i can continue
      With this i don't mean usa didn't interviene during that time or uk didn't during 20th century but they DID during 19th a few times on important moments

  • @SaintBrook
    @SaintBrook 2 роки тому +86

    There’s a little that was left out of this video on why South Africa developed nuclear weapons in the first place. They never did make enough weapons to serve as a deterrent to Angola attacking their country. Plus, nuking your own land to prevent a foreign invasion is less than ideal. Yes, Angola was backed by the Soviets. The South African government was banking on the United States intervening on their behalf if it looked like they were going to be overrun by communists. South Africa developed nuclear weapons to convince the American government that the consequences for not intervening would be worse than if they did intervene.

    • @bsleds4585
      @bsleds4585 Рік тому

      And yet the comunist rule now i realy with they would stop calling it south africa that died in 1994 its just africa now fucked like the rest of africa

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 Рік тому

      White racists in South Africa feared that Africans would bomb Germany, Belgium, and other European countries that deserve retribution for killing, enslaving, and colonizing Africans! America wants a weak Africa, so they can keep stealing African wealth. Put and China are bringing weapons to Africa. Soon white people must leave Africa or be forced out!

  • @noahbarnacz1973
    @noahbarnacz1973 5 років тому +1339

    So we’re just going to brush over the CUBANS IN ANGOLA

    • @gxtmfa
      @gxtmfa 5 років тому +60

      Noah Barnacz I mean, it was mentioned. Did you want him to go on a huge tangent or something?

    • @marc_the_shark3875
      @marc_the_shark3875 5 років тому +74

      Claudio Oliveira next joke 😂

    • @Bubajumba
      @Bubajumba 5 років тому +19

      @Claudio Oliveira Nobody won....

    • @Bubajumba
      @Bubajumba 5 років тому +47

      @Claudio Oliveira They did, because of superior military tech supplied by the Russians, but even with it they where held back and in the end both failed to achieve their aim.

    • @Bubajumba
      @Bubajumba 5 років тому +23

      @morton christie yep, What the South Africans did where impressive considering the situation they where in. Saw there is a new documentary on Netflix on the subject. Definitively gonna watch it and brush up on it. Been a while since I've looked in to this conflict.

  • @HistoryMonarch1999
    @HistoryMonarch1999 4 роки тому +759

    As someone with ADHD these history videos that go straight to the point but is still detailed and maintains context is like heaven to me. Plus visuals help a lot

    • @whocares317
      @whocares317 4 роки тому +14

      Do keep in mind they are super simplified, so you cant really get any good info from them, aside from the entertainment

    • @HistoryMonarch1999
      @HistoryMonarch1999 3 роки тому +31

      @@whocares317 I know but it’s still something I appreciate so that I can go look more into it.

    • @lalehiandeity1649
      @lalehiandeity1649 3 роки тому +17

      @@whocares317 But they’re still adequate educational material.

    • @koharumi1
      @koharumi1 2 роки тому +9

      When thing are interesting they are interesting. At least for me so I don't get distracted.
      But if it is boring I will go wander... And zone out...

    • @Jer2010
      @Jer2010 2 роки тому +5

      @@whocares317 these are almost perfect, they get into the topic and are really educational

  • @pfdrtom
    @pfdrtom 4 роки тому +760

    "Well, if we're going down for Gods sake don't let the ANC get the nukes". That was probably the REAL thinking.

    • @细勇耐
      @细勇耐 3 роки тому +92

      thats 100% it

    • @cretansuperbos2121
      @cretansuperbos2121 3 роки тому +145

      @@细勇耐 And 100% the correct conclusion.

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +158

      The thought of Jacob Zuma having a nuclear arsenal is horrifying. Not a fan of the nats but thank god they dismantled those things.

    • @pfdrtom
      @pfdrtom 3 роки тому +49

      @@matthew1882 When I was in Bloemfontein in the late 80s everyone I spoke with seemed to think the Afrikaners would go down in a blaze of glory before giving up control and some even tried to justify using nukes if it came down to it.

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +29

      @@pfdrtom that sounds like the Afrikaners I know. They Still want to go down in a blaze of glory and it's just ridiculous. Then again the ANC being the most corrupt morons on the planet doesn't inspire confidence either.

  • @CaptainTripppz
    @CaptainTripppz 3 роки тому +172

    It was actually pretty common knowledge SA had nukes by the mid-1980s. Paul Verhoeven has a little fun with the issue in RoboCop (1987) during a fictional news piece that has the crumbling white apartheid government threatening to use them in order to prevent the fall of Pretoria.

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 2 роки тому +8

      What was really funny was the smile of the newscaster as they went onto the next story.

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 Рік тому

      White racists in South Africa feared that Africans would bomb Germany, Belgium, and other European countries that deserve retribution for killing, enslaving, and colonizing Africans! America wants a weak Africa, so they can keep stealing African wealth. Put and China are bringing weapons to Africa. Soon white people must leave Africa or be forced out!

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 років тому +1427

    I represented South Africa in a Yom Kippur War committee in Model UN. I had fun threatening that I had uranium I could use and send to Israel. I gave some uranium to Australia thinking he wouldn't do anything against me and at the end he ended up nuking Cape Town

    • @davidfinder291
      @davidfinder291 5 років тому +66

      Amazing

    • @nicolaszan1845
      @nicolaszan1845 5 років тому +350

      Hey, be glad the Aussies only used nukes. Imagine what destruction they could have wrought if they sent you an Emu army.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow 5 років тому +49

      THE MOON SHALL JOIN YOUR COALITION.

    • @leithesocialistyuricon8981
      @leithesocialistyuricon8981 5 років тому +7

      Avery the Cuban-American Hello again, Avery!

    • @damonferrara3637
      @damonferrara3637 5 років тому +123

      Why did Australia want nukes?! Why did they use them against Cape Town?! What the heck happened at your Model UN?!

  • @David-kg5nn
    @David-kg5nn 5 років тому +224

    I'm surprised the mysterious test detonation in the ocean near S Africa was not mentioned at all (the Vela incident). Never realized they actually had nuclear weapons. Good video otherwise.

    • @InstigatorDJ
      @InstigatorDJ Рік тому

      Yeah we were pretty advanced beofree the United States and all their allies FORCED the handover of the country TO COMMUNISTS.
      The country is currently in a state of emergency due to the power grid almost failing, all due to the commies stealing 1 BILLION A MONTH, because and I state in their own words: "we need to eat"
      All state owned entities are destroyed. No police service, military look like a weight watchers parade.
      Its all gone to shit.

    • @InstigatorDJ
      @InstigatorDJ Рік тому +1

      I could go on and on.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 2 місяці тому

      Vela wasn’t South Africa, South Africa never made an extra bomb to blow up

  • @skywarslord4680
    @skywarslord4680 5 років тому +1288

    The nuclear warheads are peaceful! -South Africa
    Mahandi Ghandi: Yes, I like you.

    • @Leg1oNcs
      @Leg1oNcs 5 років тому +8

      i like he said that the uranium would be used for energy even though they were used for nukes they never told the rest of the world that until after we got rid of them

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 років тому +1

      I don't think he liked nukes.

    • @Kier4n99
      @Kier4n99 5 років тому +41

      I cant believe you just called him "Mahandi Ghandi" lmao

    • @skywarslord4680
      @skywarslord4680 5 років тому +10

      Neil Wilson it’s a big from civ that is a meme

    • @TheOMGJames
      @TheOMGJames 4 роки тому +29

      @@generalaccount6531 When Gandhi has completed the Manhattan Project, that's when things get real

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 3 роки тому +14

    “...to make sure it wasn’t too civil-war-y”. That cracked me up!

  • @garethjohns8458
    @garethjohns8458 5 років тому +234

    Hey a video I can contribute to, in my final year of varsity one the engineers that worked on the nuclear missile program gave us a presentation on his experience in it. He didn't work on the nuclear bombs themselves, but rather on the rockets that were supposed to be able to carry them to Angola.
    He told us about the incredible secrecy that was involved, to the point that not even the people making the bombs and missiles knew what they were doing. They would design components and have multiple different companies work on each part separately and lie about what the component was for, then bring them all back together and assemble them on site. The missiles were assembled in an old farm and a barn house tower was used to stand the missile upright, with the main part of the barn used for construction.
    He told us how, even though they knew what to build they didn't actually have anyone with the experience to design the rockets they needed, but that the USA was willing to help, just not officially. They would fly to Canada, cross the border into the USA and obtain blueprints and designs to aid in the construction back at home, and he mentioned how a private airport was constructed where they could land and take-off in secret.
    When the program was shut down the USA sent officials over to oversee the closure and make sure we had definitely gotten rid of the nukes, they poured concrete into the missile silos, but the old casings are still in a museum to this day, they look pretty much spot on to the drawings in your video.
    If I remember correctly they never actually tested the range of the rockets, so even though we had nukes we couldn't have launched them.
    I still have the PowerPoint presentation that he gave us, just wish I had a video of the actual interview. I asked him if he ever felt bad that he had worked on something that was essentially going to be used to kill people and he said his time on the program were the best years of his life. He said how it was the most challenging thing he'd ever done and how his trips to the USA made him feel like a spy. All-in-all a really great presentation and one the highlights of my varsity days.

    • @stoneomountain2390
      @stoneomountain2390 5 років тому +13

      They did test the range, flew them up past Angola, turned around and made it back to around Langebaan, I think, where it was dumped in the sea.
      There was problem with the steering apparently, not reactive enough.

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +5

      I think they could've been used as "Gravity Bombs" dropped from a strike aircraft.

    • @mikespencer4922
      @mikespencer4922 Рік тому +2

      Missile silo's???? I think those bombs were meant to be delivered by Canberras.

    • @garethjohns8458
      @garethjohns8458 Рік тому +4

      @@mikespencer4922 The long term goal for the Apartheid government was for them to be delivered via missiles. But the program never reached completion.

    • @xndr_mrw
      @xndr_mrw Рік тому +1

      Please upload the powerpoint presentation if you don't mind

  • @99Inflamunas
    @99Inflamunas 5 років тому +68

    I just love how you always include portraits hanging on the wall-lends a degree of atmosphere lacking in other vids tbh 10/10

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 5 років тому +50

    2:38 Best ever image of the Cold War ending.

  • @FilipinoBoii
    @FilipinoBoii 3 роки тому +34

    nukes: i thought you never gonna give me up
    south africa: sorry I let you down

    • @tumishoselowa6441
      @tumishoselowa6441 3 роки тому +11

      Can't believe I got rick rolled in my own head, it's a violation.

  • @mr_jchristian
    @mr_jchristian 4 роки тому +728

    Seeing how our current government runs and maintains our power grid, I, as a South African, am sooooo glad we don't have nuclear weapons anymore 😂🙆‍♂️.

    • @TheStriker0525
      @TheStriker0525 4 роки тому +13

      why are the screwing up so badly tho?

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +67

      @@TheStriker0525 corruption, chronyism, ineptitude and incompetence. Turns out sitting in a foxhole in Angola doesn't make you qualified to run a government department. Who woulda thunk?

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 3 роки тому +38

      @@matthew1882 that's the same all over Africa, your situation isn't in any way worse, at opposite, it's a little better

    • @shockmaster1929
      @shockmaster1929 3 роки тому +10

      The rest of the world is too

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +69

      @@shockmaster1929 not that our nukes could ever reach outside of Southern Africa. The deployment method was basically "kick it out the back of a plane"

  • @ankles632
    @ankles632 5 років тому +118

    The most interesting things about SA nuclear weapons is that they used Vortex separation to obtain the HEU. They are probably the only 1's to do it that way.

    • @TjtheSquishyLegomanic
      @TjtheSquishyLegomanic 3 роки тому +6

      What does that mean and how is it different

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому +52

      @@TjtheSquishyLegomanicWe used "Boer space magic"

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 Рік тому +20

      @@matthew1882 Boers are in a class of their own. Even with some of the harshest sanctions in global history they still managed to remain at the forefront of technology. Proud to share so much common ancestry with the Boers!

    • @ReneeWardRealtor
      @ReneeWardRealtor Рік тому +1

      A very clever race

    • @floatingeyes720
      @floatingeyes720 Рік тому

      ​@@pieterveenders9793 lol watse kak praat jy? Jy lewe in 'n droom wereld

  • @apie8
    @apie8 5 років тому +203

    @1:12 You pictured Swaziland (Now eSwatini) as part of Potuguese East Africa and Mozambique, but it was never part thereof. Swaziland was a British colony and obtained independence in 1968.

    • @sonoftheway3528
      @sonoftheway3528 5 років тому +1

      this

    • @theregalproletariat
      @theregalproletariat 5 років тому +10

      Oh.
      Is this why there are already 5 dislikes on the video?

    • @apie8
      @apie8 5 років тому +29

      @@theregalproletariat I don't know about the dislikes. I wouldn't dislike an informative video for a small mistake like that. The rest of the video is spot on.

    • @wilhelmrk
      @wilhelmrk 5 років тому

      But ask yourself this: Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?

    • @apie8
      @apie8 5 років тому +28

      @@wilhelmrk I am sure it matters to the millions of Swazi's who's history is not being told correctly. Or they dont and it doesnt. I was just trying to show that there are a lot of countries in that "small" space.

  • @Slynsmiley
    @Slynsmiley Рік тому +369

    Having a look at the total disarray of the current SA government, getting rid of their Nukes was a demonstration of maturity, wisdom and foresight.

    • @gvz2899
      @gvz2899 Рік тому +53

      Yeah they would have most likely blown SA up trying to connect all the tv's in Soweto to it.

    • @drakZes
      @drakZes Рік тому +45

      Defnitely. Image the ANC (governing party) had access to nukes. A thought that would scare anyone.

    • @Kaveman.
      @Kaveman. Рік тому +11

      It may interest you to know that while the nuclear weapons were dismantled, the material still exists under very heavy military guard to this very day in Pretoria. A tiny bit has been used for medical purposes but the majority of it is still ready to go. Since the ANC took power, each US president has tried to persuade each of their South African counterparts to do away with the nuclear material, but each of them refused. I think this is a wise strategic move probably to allow South Africa to reinstate the nuclear arms program should she come under imminent threat from another country.

    • @havok2579
      @havok2579 Рік тому +9

      @@Kaveman. I don’t think we currently have the expertise to make nuclear weapons as the blueprints we had were destroyed

    • @inoppi
      @inoppi Рік тому +5

      @@havok2579 building a bomb out of Uranium 235 is trivially easy, you just have two large enough clumps of it and mash them together and it will go supercritical.
      The hard part about building a nuclear bomb is getting the Uranium 235... or Plutonium.

  • @adamkleinschmidt
    @adamkleinschmidt 5 років тому +24

    Thanks for doing a South Africa episode!

  • @christopherbeilings71
    @christopherbeilings71 5 років тому +833

    Makes no difference now, the ANC would have probably sold those nukes to the Guptas

    • @jimbobjones9119
      @jimbobjones9119 5 років тому +61

      "Sold" would in this instance have meant advancing them a couple of billion to pay for them nukes and then give them the rights to the intellectual property plus a rent free long term lease on some government facility, for which another couple of billion of taxpayer's money would be used to renovate by a Gupta-owned company, and termed a previously-disadvantaged persons empowerment project for which a joint-Gupta/Zuma owned consultancy would be paid several million to set up...

    • @merlinbotha363
      @merlinbotha363 5 років тому +47

      @@jimbobjones9119 please add more full stops and divide into paragraphs. Makes it easier to dgest information.

    • @stoneomountain2390
      @stoneomountain2390 5 років тому +13

      Naw, they owe other terrorist groups favors.
      Those nukes would've disappeared due to Y2K or something.

    • @centurian318
      @centurian318 5 років тому +29

      Letting the ANC inherent nukes would have brought “necklacing” to a whole new level.
      Israel also helped them with the bomb and sold them arms.

    • @jimbobjones9119
      @jimbobjones9119 5 років тому +4

      @@merlinbotha363 Haha....it would all have happened so quickly - no time for punctuation...nor the usual supply chain regulations!

  • @RealClutchMcGee
    @RealClutchMcGee 5 років тому +354

    Next video “Why did Ukraine give up 5k nukes to Russia?”

    • @gasbasman
      @gasbasman 5 років тому +4

      asking the interesting questions

    • @gasbasman
      @gasbasman 5 років тому +40

      Emparor: taking things that where not theirs has not stopped anyone in history. I think having a few nukes lying around is useful. Especially now when they get invaded by Russia.

    • @Ivan_StandWithUkraine
      @Ivan_StandWithUkraine 5 років тому +41

      Can tell you in few words: a) seeking better relationship with West + funding b) corrupted government of pro-russian ex-Commies d) too expensive to maintain. But that was a huge mistake to give it up like that. At least we had to ask for something better than just Budapest memorandum, especially knowing the historical fact «Documents signed by Russia isn't worth of the paper they are written on».

    • @RealClutchMcGee
      @RealClutchMcGee 5 років тому +71

      Ivan Alekseichuk another reason is because Russia made a deal with Ukraine that they wouldn’t violate their territorially integrity but we all know how that turned out

    • @Ivan_StandWithUkraine
      @Ivan_StandWithUkraine 5 років тому +9

      @@RealClutchMcGee that's exactly what I meant, the document is called Budapest memorandum.

  • @andypozuelos1204
    @andypozuelos1204 3 роки тому +7

    What incredible foresight.

  • @Gerealistic
    @Gerealistic Рік тому +13

    As a South African, I didn't know this but find it highly interesting and informative. Thank you!

    • @johanrichards7412
      @johanrichards7412 Рік тому

      Dont praise yourself, your nation fucked everything up, the white people built the nuclear

    • @tarektechmarine8209
      @tarektechmarine8209 Рік тому +3

      They don't teach us this stuff in school, too much aparthied and not enough history.

  • @wuffothewonderdog
    @wuffothewonderdog Рік тому +20

    I lived in Malawi 1976-80. I believe I saw the flash from the SA test.
    I was leaving a friend's house in Lilongwe late one evening and suddenly, as I opened my car door, we both could momentarily see clouds in a blue sky, green trees and each other's faces before it went dark again. We were both stunned but neither of us heard any sound, not was there any rush of wind, so we must have been too far away for that.

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 5 років тому +549

    no one: ...
    South Africa:
    ♫Uranium fever has done and got me down
    Uranium fever is spreadin' all around
    With a Geiger counter in my hand
    I'm a-goin' out to stake me some government land
    Uranium fever has done and got me down ♫

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 5 років тому +9

      War! Huh! Yeah, what is it good for?

    • @Bragosso
      @Bragosso 5 років тому +6

      nice lyrics, not terrible not great

    • @lemonlite_
      @lemonlite_ 5 років тому +11

      Well I had talk with the AEC
      And they brought out some maps that looked good to me
      And one showed me a spot that he said he knowed
      So I straddled my Jeep and headed down the road

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 5 років тому

      Tom Lehrer wrote in his 1965 satirical song “Proliferation,” a list of potential nuclear powers:
      South Africa wants TWO; that’s right,
      One for the black and one for the white! Who’s next?

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 5 років тому

      Kaiser Wilhelm II Sorry , I’m not familiar with that song.

  • @agy234
    @agy234 9 місяців тому +7

    Can you imagine the ANC with access to nukes?

  • @beckiverson1531
    @beckiverson1531 4 роки тому +5

    I love the simple yet elegant animation style

  • @LocalHeretic-ck1kd
    @LocalHeretic-ck1kd 5 років тому +20

    Reminds me of that old game named Soldier of Fortune. There your main villain is a former South African general who stole nukes from the Russia and sold them to various terrorist organizations around the world..
    He used to propose to use South African nukes as a leverage to end UN embargo. Now he grew up to be a terrorist mastermind and your job is to locate and safely defuse those nukes and then to eliminate him. And he has a brother who is a leader of a very dangerous gang of criminals in the USA because why not.
    That game was cool.

    • @PumpkinHoard
      @PumpkinHoard 4 роки тому +4

      I had completely forgotten the story to that game. Unsurprising I suppose, given that the main selling point of the game at the time was gory kills.

    • @ABW941
      @ABW941 2 роки тому +1

      He wore a very strange armour, and he was the last boss of the game. If i remember correctly he was cut in two by a falling light fixture.

  • @kaibotski4939
    @kaibotski4939 3 роки тому +88

    Without watching the vid. The first thing i thought of was, could anyone imagine the ANC having nukes? They'd probably sell it to anyone for the right price.

    • @iBhacaBeats
      @iBhacaBeats 3 роки тому +10

      Yea like the NP was not corrupt and never made arm deals. Yea. NP was good. ANC is bad.

    • @kaibotski4939
      @kaibotski4939 3 роки тому +32

      @@iBhacaBeats NP wasn't as broke, corrupt yes but probably has a tad more foresight. Just a tad.

    • @jimmys1558
      @jimmys1558 2 роки тому +20

      @@iBhacaBeats np where also politicians, but at least somewhat capable ones. ANC is just, its a good example of everything that can be wrong with a govourment/political party.

    • @troypaul2379
      @troypaul2379 Рік тому +1

      It's very obvious that you don't know about A.Q. Khan.

  • @thommysides4616
    @thommysides4616 3 роки тому +18

    I'm an American whose been living in South Africa for years now. Some have said that a few of the A bombs were taken away and hidden. Only a few VP's knew where they were. I wonder if these bombs are still in safe hands..... if they are indeed still intact. Well, one day we just might all find out.... one way or the other.

    • @MakateRapulana
      @MakateRapulana 2 роки тому +1

      The uranium is in Pelindaba..

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому +3

      May we never find out lol

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 Рік тому +2

      They were sent to lsraeI

    • @supermayne23
      @supermayne23 Рік тому

      There's a theory that some were hidden under the Voertrekker monument...

  • @OnAWireStudios
    @OnAWireStudios 5 років тому +21

    As a South Arican, it's always interesting to hear foreigners pronounce our names and surnames. Like "Botha". XD

    • @koketsomawela1357
      @koketsomawela1357 4 роки тому +2

      Botha is a Europeans name it's not South "African"

    • @koketsomawela1357
      @koketsomawela1357 4 роки тому +2

      @ragnar ulrichson Lol your opinion is only worth about Jack,
      If we moved from central and west Africa after the 1600s our languages wouldn't have evolved so much we would have common cultural heritage with some ethnic groups in central and west Africa,just like Afrikaans and Dutch are mutually intelligible there are no ethnic groups in central or west Africa today that have a single similarity with Bantu tribes be it languages or cultural practices,nice try with your unfounded opinions 🤣hell you people think the Zulu tribe arrived here between the 1700s and 1800s when the Zulu tribe was actually formed in Southern Africa and had a different name before Shaka Zulu,but i like that you think i have to agree with your historical views I mean pale skinned people have always had some form of monopoly control over history ,it's like asking the hunter to tell the lion's story ,
      Don't patronize me or assume that you can just insult my intelligence with historical fallacies

    • @koketsomawela1357
      @koketsomawela1357 4 роки тому +3

      @ragnar ulrichson i would spend more time refuting anything you said if i believed for a second that it has a mere grasp of reality wouldn't make a difference eitheway it doesn't defeat my initial point,Botha was European-South African I'm African-South African which is just south african,it's a pity that i can share images on you tube comment sections

  • @mastrorick
    @mastrorick 3 роки тому +12

    1:13 my country appears in the friend list

    • @trevorwilson6683
      @trevorwilson6683 3 роки тому +11

      Psss, in this video that’s a *bad* thing.

    • @mastrorick
      @mastrorick 3 роки тому +5

      @@trevorwilson6683 no

    • @joelGi
      @joelGi 3 роки тому +8

      @@mastrorick it is lol you were one of the few countries on earth still pro segregation and pro native exploitation

    • @mastrorick
      @mastrorick 3 роки тому +1

      @@joelGi excuse my country for befriended the black people until the end of the apartheid

  • @blackpowderuser373
    @blackpowderuser373 5 років тому +41

    2:15
    Warning: Splodey boi

  • @jadenjaeger5751
    @jadenjaeger5751 3 роки тому +86

    My friend's dad who worked in a top secret government facility in south africa told him a secret one day, saying that although our nukes were dismantled, we had the means to reconstruct them if need be. I'm not sure if this is true but considering how powerful our military was in apartheid, it might be.

    • @coetzeehome
      @coetzeehome 2 роки тому +26

      My grandfather was rather high up in the military and told me something very similar. He even mentioned that they had actually removed and falsified documents closer to the end so that it looked like there were only the 7 but that they ended up storing some in undisclosed areas under private ownership and not military and that they also gave some to Israel since apparently they worked on these programs together. How true that all was, I don't know but my grandfather wasn't really the sort of person to lie or tell big stories so ja. Who knows🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @r.lewisblake7793
      @r.lewisblake7793 2 роки тому +25

      @@coetzeehome
      Just the kind to reveal state secrets to his kid?!

    • @coetzeehome
      @coetzeehome 2 роки тому +20

      @@r.lewisblake7793 Landscape for those like my grandfather is not the same as for the US veterans. He was told to leave the military and was all treated extremely poorly after the new government took over. I am sure 10 years after leaving and being made to be the bad guys in politics in SA leaves you not so patriotic about keeping secrets. (If it was true)

    • @NoVisionGuy
      @NoVisionGuy 2 роки тому +1

      @@coetzeehome The black government of South Africa turned your country into a shithole now. SA would've been a better and progressive country with white rational leaders.

    • @ACE_CORP1
      @ACE_CORP1 2 роки тому

      @@NoVisionGuy I honestly don't know how to respond to this like was that meant to be racist or did u just word it poorly

  • @miqx1977
    @miqx1977 5 років тому +451

    That was a wise decision.

    • @johnathanquare2390
      @johnathanquare2390 4 роки тому +31

      @@superm530 Looking at the state of our current government, I think it was. Our government isn't very smart, and if they had nukes, it would just make them pretty cocky as well.

    • @Philtopy
      @Philtopy 3 роки тому

      @@superm530 well it's like son Goku: he can destroy earth with his little finger but he chooses to fight under strength so he doesn't kill everybody.

    • @nayeemhaider8367
      @nayeemhaider8367 3 роки тому +6

      @@nadavjones4244 let Iran have them too then since they're also constantly under threat from neighbours

    • @icemike1
      @icemike1 3 роки тому

      Payback is a bitch

    • @WayneMunro
      @WayneMunro 3 роки тому

      @@superm530 probably still secretly have them.

  • @saabab1474
    @saabab1474 5 років тому +8

    A video on the History of Panama would be interesting.

  • @ifandafydd7432
    @ifandafydd7432 5 років тому +87

    "Insert Earth Here" made me laugh more than it should've

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 5 років тому +6

      He's done that in all of his videos that mention the UN.

    • @ifandafydd7432
      @ifandafydd7432 5 років тому +2

      @@mirzaahmed6589 And it's made me laugh every time

    • @Serjo777
      @Serjo777 3 роки тому

      @@ifandafydd7432 Timestamp?

    • @ifandafydd7432
      @ifandafydd7432 3 роки тому

      @@Serjo777 It's four minutes long, it's not going to take you long to find it yourself

    • @Serjo777
      @Serjo777 3 роки тому +1

      @@ifandafydd7432 I just watched it before writing the comment and didn't see that.

  • @nikoappsmuggred7220
    @nikoappsmuggred7220 3 роки тому +11

    true reason: we knew the ANC is corrupt, so we took them away before they could do something with it.

  • @FlyGoodGroove
    @FlyGoodGroove 4 роки тому +7

    I'm new to these History Matters documentaries & I think they're absolutely brilliant. I knew quite a bit on some of the subjects but I still find them informative. Thank you so much & please keep making them.

  • @poppedweasel
    @poppedweasel 5 років тому +373

    I thought they just handed them over to Isreal. re: Vela incident.

    • @yoavmor9002
      @yoavmor9002 5 років тому +73

      Possible lol. I reckon that the only reason that two Arab nations signed a peace treaty with us and we have "good" relations with some others is that we have nukes.

    • @poppedweasel
      @poppedweasel 5 років тому +33

      @@yoavmor9002 They sure are good deterrents. Stay safe ;)

    • @spikethompson2000
      @spikethompson2000 5 років тому +49

      poppedweasel while the two likely worked together to develop nuclear weapon capabilities, the arsenal of the two nations were constructed separately, and Israel would have likely continued to develop more sophisticated weapons, mean the relatively primitive nukes of South Africa would have been less useful. In addition, transporting nuclear weapons from South Africa would have meant passing by non Israeli friendly nations, and if they got wind they would have attempted to seize the weapons

    • @misha130
      @misha130 5 років тому +5

      Maybe just Uranium but if USA helped SA to make nukes then why not Israel

    • @poppedweasel
      @poppedweasel 5 років тому +14

      @Kevin Zhang Yes, I'm quite active on Falklands vids. Argies make great punchbags. The Falklands is a bit of a specialist subject of mine. Hope the essays weren't too boring?

  • @centredoorplugsthornton4112
    @centredoorplugsthornton4112 4 роки тому +15

    In the 1980s stories circulated of an undersea nuke test in the south Atlantic, possibly done by South Africa.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +3

      If you're thinking of the Vela incident in September 1979, that was an above-the-water test (if it was a test).

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 3 роки тому

      @@beeble2003 it most definitely was and it most definitely was South Africa and Israel

  • @r.lewisblake7793
    @r.lewisblake7793 2 роки тому +7

    A video on Rhodesia would be informative.

  • @sodapop1794
    @sodapop1794 5 років тому +17

    YESSS FINALLY A VID ON SA IM SO HAPPY I COULD BREAK MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON

  • @indranibhattacharjee8073
    @indranibhattacharjee8073 5 років тому +5

    Wonderful video I am always amazed seeing your videos, they're so so sooo informative and knowledgeable. Keep it up 👍

  • @WolfJustWolf
    @WolfJustWolf 5 років тому +7

    Rhodesia deserves its own episode

  • @renaissanceman4054
    @renaissanceman4054 3 роки тому +1

    I'm pretty lit off some big smirnoff can so I feel friendly enough to say; I really like your channel.

  • @sebastianprimomija8375
    @sebastianprimomija8375 5 років тому +158

    Seeing how South Africa ended up *Whew*

    • @autisticspaceman9397
      @autisticspaceman9397 5 років тому +32

      @Truthbeyondemotion had to put "white" in there didn't you? You know, China is turning african countries into their own personal debt slaves

    • @thrawnprotocol9780
      @thrawnprotocol9780 4 роки тому +5

      @@shorewall Acting as though developement is something inherently race based is not only a hilariously retarded thing to say, but disgustingly dishonest if you know even the slightest bit of human history and how it constantly changes.

  • @spartan2748
    @spartan2748 10 місяців тому +8

    As a south African I think its a very good thing, SA got rid of them. Look at our ANC Government right now, would you really want them to have nukes? Ask yourself honestly

    • @kaumohlamonyane272
      @kaumohlamonyane272 7 місяців тому +1

      To be honest, they'd do nothing with them. Also, they've been decommissioned, not necessarily destroyed.

  • @angelaziegler7153
    @angelaziegler7153 3 роки тому +20

    I highly recommend that you read “The Unspoken Alliance” because it explains how South Africa developed its nukes and why they wanted/needed them in the first place.

  • @canadagood
    @canadagood Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your accuracy and attention to detail. If almost anybody else was drawing a cartoonish South Africa they would have left out Caprivi Strip but of course you did not!

  • @annekirkland5142
    @annekirkland5142 3 роки тому +6

    And now this beautiful country is sadly going down. This is my birth country, it is my home and would never live anywhere else. I love all its people..... I pray for all its people.

  • @magnvss
    @magnvss 4 роки тому +5

    I like this videos because: FOR THE SHORT version you see the video and for the CORRECTIONS (yes, locals always know a little bit more) the forgotten details and the further explanations you go to the COMMENTS. PLUS THE JOKES.

  • @flaviusbelisarius7517
    @flaviusbelisarius7517 5 років тому +12

    2:57 I'm sorry but your flat delivery made this way to funny

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd love to see a video on the Vela Incident.

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic 5 років тому +5

    Argentina also had a nuclear weapons development program, which is why they began developing more enriched uranium based nuclear reactors and developing ballistic missilies while pushing more development into their space program. When democracy returned in 1983 and Argentina signed the non-proliferation treaty, the whole program was halted before any nuclear weapon was ever built, but they did sell their nuclear and ballistic missile technology to whatever country would pay for it. (they sold nuclear technology to Egypt and Ballistic missile technology to Irak, for example.)

    • @JaKingScomez
      @JaKingScomez 5 років тому +1

      Now Argentina is becoming a shithole thanks to the socialist

    • @babatundeonabajo
      @babatundeonabajo 2 роки тому +1

      Brazil as well.

  • @giladkay3761
    @giladkay3761 4 роки тому +5

    History matters, the show that gives you the best answers to the best questions you never asked

  • @sunburstshredder
    @sunburstshredder 5 років тому +13

    Since you mentioned Rhodesia, a video about that would be pretty cool

  • @christianvanderlindering
    @christianvanderlindering 26 днів тому +2

    It was a good call. Imagine Juluis Malema rose to power and had control of nukes.

  • @thomasturner6980
    @thomasturner6980 5 років тому +38

    2:33, the cute way of saying civil war

  • @felps1917
    @felps1917 5 років тому +6

    You should make a video about why portugal don't give up of his colonies

    • @felps1917
      @felps1917 5 років тому

      Or Portuguese Colonial War itself and his dictator Antonio Salazar

  • @codycook29
    @codycook29 5 років тому +55

    They saw where it was going, and didn't want them getting access to that weapon

  • @eimkei1339
    @eimkei1339 Рік тому +2

    After reading the title my gut reaction was the final reason given within seconds of the end of the video.

  • @duboc42
    @duboc42 3 роки тому +5

    Well, if you want to build a nuclear bomb, its pretty easy, you go to Brasil, and buy fairly cheap book called "A Fisica dos Explosivos Nucleares" which translates for The physics of nuclear explosives, it was made by a University professor who was dared to do it for his PHD, he use the only 2 pictures of the american bomb opened, and the scarce test results that were not classifed.

  • @liot_7
    @liot_7 10 місяців тому +10

    Pretty sensible to not give the ANC nukes LMAO

  • @mqhelisisibindi8134
    @mqhelisisibindi8134 5 років тому +7

    hahaha I was so shocked you could find so many reasons other than the "one more reason".

  • @SixFootScream
    @SixFootScream 2 роки тому

    One of the best videos I seen on this topic.

  • @cornelsmith406
    @cornelsmith406 Рік тому +5

    My grand father was one of the few nuclear physicist that worked directly with the uraniam materials in a under ground lab. He was sent to Europe to learn how to handle the radioactive materials in a safely manner. When they actually got to the testing it more of a test how to safely deliver the payload. He was going to work on 2 PhDs based on the data he was going to collect when they detonated the first bomb. But it was actually a Russian spy get that caught a glimpse of what they where doing and they alerted the Americans to do further investigations. That was when they used the satellite to see the testing and the next day my grandfather woke up to the South African president yelling at them to stop everything and they buried everything in a 20ft deep hole in the dessert along with his equipment for his 2 PhDs.
    Sry for bad grammar English is not my fist language.

  • @mrniceguy7168
    @mrniceguy7168 5 років тому +328

    Thank god they gave it up. Could you imagine the current South African governments with nukes?

    • @padvinder8
      @padvinder8 5 років тому +28

      Youre just racist and shit

    • @mrniceguy7168
      @mrniceguy7168 5 років тому +208

      padvinder8 I didn’t know that not wanting a horribly incompetent and corrupt government having nukes was racist

    • @DFrost-ip2lk
      @DFrost-ip2lk 5 років тому +1

      Mr Nice Guy The governments not racist, you’re projecting your own flaws on them.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 5 років тому +26

      South Africa wouldn't even have nukes right now. Because the minute if we found out that they had nukes then the USA would have told them to give it up or USA place economic sanctions.

    • @kazunabe4288
      @kazunabe4288 5 років тому

      Most likely the US and allies would’ve gotten them to remove them voluntarily as they had with other nations.

  • @gabrielfraser2109
    @gabrielfraser2109 3 роки тому +6

    No one was really concerned that a democratic SA would nuke anyone. But there were enormous concerns that the nukes could be sold to other countries, particularly Libya, since the ANC had a friendly relationship with Gaddafi.

    • @018Greg
      @018Greg Рік тому

      Correct and South Africa is presently fostering very warm ties with the likes of Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and others.

  • @muzikayisencube8818
    @muzikayisencube8818 3 роки тому +1

    The stuff written on those small boards is pure comedic gold

  • @freekmiddelburg5604
    @freekmiddelburg5604 5 років тому +8

    2:38 is why I am subscribed

  • @heromahdi
    @heromahdi 3 роки тому +3

    i really love that "insert earth here" in that logo 😂

  • @MichaelSidneyTimpson
    @MichaelSidneyTimpson 5 років тому +41

    You could have mentioned, at least briefly, why the map suddenly changed and the country was half the size....

    • @zachryder3150
      @zachryder3150 5 років тому +12

      South Africa gave up its control over South-West Africa (former German South-West Africa). It was handed to South Africa by the British when Germany's territories were seized

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 5 років тому +9

      Namibia got its independence
      Although its unfair that noting about that was mentioned

    • @thommysides4616
      @thommysides4616 3 роки тому +1

      The Northwestern part use to be owned by Germany, but the U.K. never fully supported the idea of South Africa getting that country. It was more of a South African territory and in 1990 it got independence when it was seen that the USSR was no longer a threat. I wish the U.K. would have supported the union, as it would have helped South Africa to be a greater nation.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 роки тому

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

  • @oscarmonstuh6942
    @oscarmonstuh6942 5 років тому +10

    Lmfao can you imagine someone walking up to you holding up a sign that says “turns out you suck” 😂😂😂😂

  • @Mattstheman333
    @Mattstheman333 4 роки тому +7

    2:48 wise decision

  • @wtdata
    @wtdata 3 роки тому +8

    Just imagine the present situation if they didn't...

  • @christielangton6527
    @christielangton6527 Рік тому +1

    I'm from South Africa. Thank you for this.

  • @Volroomste_melk
    @Volroomste_melk 3 роки тому +10

    As a south African thanks for talking more about us
    I appreciate it

  • @steelpaw9944
    @steelpaw9944 5 років тому +92

    I mean look at South Africa now, kind of glad they do not have nukes cause its utter chaos over there

    • @Leg1oNcs
      @Leg1oNcs 5 років тому

      *visible confusion*

    • @andrewsitu5107
      @andrewsitu5107 5 років тому +1

      We need Malema to bring order to chaos.

    • @sdds50
      @sdds50 5 років тому +1

      Matt Seymour where are you from MATT?

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 5 років тому

      The nukes are still there. It's stored in a silvermine.

    • @warrengans1346
      @warrengans1346 3 роки тому

      Steel Paw, compared to attacks on the Capitol Building lead by the president or Brexit lead by racial undertones? Everyone's got problems, but at least we got a reasonable man leading us.

  • @luisllorens70
    @luisllorens70 Рік тому +20

    Let us just imagine the current South Africa with nukes. Now thank God.

  • @Ethan_Willemse
    @Ethan_Willemse Рік тому +2

    Wow so informational

  • @kjorlaug1
    @kjorlaug1 5 років тому +7

    No mention of the Vela incident? Kind of a big omission

    • @kjorlaug1
      @kjorlaug1 5 років тому +2

      @bnet sucks The Vela Incident was an alleged (there is no end of debate on it) nuclear test conducted by South Africa and Israel in September of 1979 in the Southern Indian ocean. It is generally regarded as an atmospheric nuclear test conducted in secret to confirm the capability of the program.

    • @guillaumegiroux9425
      @guillaumegiroux9425 5 років тому +7

      bnet sucks The Vela Incident was a suspected Nuclear Test near Bouvet Island (which officially belongs to Norway but is midway between SA and Antartica). Rumor says it might have been a joint SA-Israel test, as Israel had the technology, was willing to bust the arms embargo directed to SA but lacked space at home to conduct such tests.

    • @netz8439
      @netz8439 5 років тому

      @@kjorlaug1 no nuclear residue found by either usa planes that were dispatched nor a different satellite a few hours later.
      The double flair was detected by a non-active satellite (ancient satellite that couldn't be relied upon) and an error was a real possibility.
      And there are other causes for double flairs (meteorite, emp pulse, other countries etc)

  • @shaycormac5027
    @shaycormac5027 4 роки тому +6

    Fascinating! I didn't even know South Africa had nuclear weapons.

  • @scotandiamapping4549
    @scotandiamapping4549 3 роки тому +11

    0:07 yeah looking at Ukraine's situation today it probably should've kept those

  • @thechazzler8934
    @thechazzler8934 3 роки тому +1

    Just finished “the girl who saved the king of Sweden” and wanted to know more about this, thanks for the info

    • @Rio_1111
      @Rio_1111 Рік тому

      I was searching for a comment about that book :D

  • @我在讽刺
    @我在讽刺 2 роки тому +133

    Imagine what it would be like if the ANC or EFF had access to nukes.

    • @lucienpetersen9010
      @lucienpetersen9010 Рік тому +4

      They would if we had. And nothing stops them from developing it now.

    • @bsleds4585
      @bsleds4585 Рік тому

      Brians stops them they cant even keep what was a first world economy given to them so nukes way beyound there capabilities

    • @RaraZeCat
      @RaraZeCat Рік тому +1

      @@lucienpetersen9010 the lack of infrastructure stops em

    • @empatheticliberalabomina-vu4qp
      @empatheticliberalabomina-vu4qp Рік тому +66

      ​@@lucienpetersen9010 Nothing but brain power.

    • @LeratoM98
      @LeratoM98 Рік тому +1

      Lol oh shxt. Would be Helll.

  • @frogchip6484
    @frogchip6484 5 років тому +22

    South Africa is like the little brother who after being bullied by his older siblings, shuts himself in his room and plots revenge but matures in the end so does nothing

    • @hugomaritz692
      @hugomaritz692 4 роки тому +1

      @Truthbeyondemotion hahaha you're out of your mind.

  • @christoduplessis8177
    @christoduplessis8177 4 роки тому +13

    As an Afrikaans South African, really enjoying the pronunciation of the surnames. But thanks for the video 😊

    • @yaboi494
      @yaboi494 4 роки тому +1

      Botha was just pronounced badly

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и Рік тому +1

    Great information