Seems like every time dbgrinder sides with Elijah it low key blows up in his face. while I 100% agree that Fedd probably shoulda just chained to anchor right away, the rest of dbgrinder's argument goes out the window for this primary reason: Elijah knew the linkage was set. Based on reaction times it's very likely he had malicious intentions when asking the question in an attempt to enter a state where the set linkage couldnt activate.
Him going straight to "take? " shows bad intentions. Dosent respond 👍or anything, simply goes straight res trying to shark. Anyone that plays or vs striker know they mean to take when they click on the monster after negate res.
It's also very reasonable to not immediately chain. It's a skillful tactic to wait for a response to take away more resources. Example if they have cosmic: you bait the cosmic and chain Linkage on the cosmic target.
I agree with kitty here. There was never explicit communication that fedd chose not to chain something onto it. Just because elijah asked a question on how something would resolve, it doesnt decide that the chain is now resolving.
He said yes to taking w anchor tho, you/the activator of Widow anchor CHOOSE if you wanna take or not, elijah was asking if he was gonna take, he said yes. Any person with decent understanding would assume they were gonna take it. Also doesnt help the striker player didntngo in the same message "yeah, but imma chain"
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216 that's really the only reason I'm kinda siding with Elijah here. That exchange coulda been avoided if Fedd just immediately chained to anchor instead of getting suckered in by answering his question.
@@RayMon504 i dont think rewarding the player for "suckering in" his opponent is a good thing for the game. the question was clearly w the intent to rush him into resolving the chain
Elijah would’ve bitched about the linkage being flipped regardless of when it happened. The cards Fedd had pissed him off, we’ve seen it before. I think he just said yes to make the communication clear when asked, wasn’t about resolution. 1 second in between activations and elijah passed the fenrir before anything else could’ve happened.
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216 just so you know, you as a player cannot ask your opponent if they wish to resolve a part of an effect and assume that the upon agreeing with you, that the chain is over. Yugioh is not played in that way
Its insane how much of a crying baby Elijah is. 2 judges ruled against him and he still thinks he is in the right. Truly a clown. Rule sharking on its finest. Striker player didnt put anchor to the GY. That should be more than enough of a sign that the chain didnt resolve.
Yup yup. Once the chain is finished you send the cards to GY. Elijah literally just threw the fenrir ASAP after asking and didn’t even ask for which zone.
@@MisterProKoko73This argument is just stupid lmao, the striker play can just move it. Secondly the take is WHEN YOURE RESOLVING widow anchor, and Elijah asked if he was gonna take
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216lmfao you are just as big a clown to think answering the question means he is resolving. Its obvious to everyone that he asked him the question right away and tossed to try and argue against him chaining. He should have stayed quiet and fedd would say take he asked him because he was being a toxic ruleshark and it didnt work so now he is pissed cus nobody is buying his bs. If he was good enough he wouldnt have to ruleshard this hard to get out of a chain.
@@peacewalker991 i think the only reasonable counterpoint to elijah is that his question could be interpreted as a way to trick the opp into that exact situation, but according to the rules elijah was in the right.
I'm with the striker player on this one (except the insult part). Elijah was being really sharky with the saying take means you're resolving chain angle, he flipped linkage the same second elijah passed fenrir and you've agreed in the past that less than 1 second is not a reaction it's thing they were doing anyways.
Insult -the part where he patronisingly asked if Elijah is autistic? That's a really, really light ribbing considering it took Elijah much less time to call his opponent's English sh**ty and to mock his attempts at communication. It's hard to learn a second language; nobody deserves to be ridiculed like that, least of all people who are trying to defend themselves from an imbecile.
@@Lollbunzee exactly i thought the same thing. This guy probably only speaks english which makes it funny. Like u only speak one language and u gonna make fun of someone else who speaks more than u? Like stfu. That rly made him look bad
"except the insult part" Ever hear the phrase "treat others the way you want to be treated?" Well, Elijah's just being treated the way he clearly wants to be treated.
He asked take on purpose so he would answer yes and give immediately to him sobhe cant linkage. Im pretty sure he knows how widow anchor works. He just said yes cause he asked.
both judges were really reasonable reading the little context they had. elijah knew he had linkage seted from multirole, he MALICIOUSLY asked that and when he got the awser he wanted, he tryed to shark him, ignoring that theres a time window before one resolves or add something to a chain. the judges couldnt see this much but it gets clear knowing elijah has a historic on sharking.
That kash player hella cheating game 1 lmao. Just accept that you got outplayed. When the secondary condition of a striker spell is met and able to apply you as the player must declare weather your applying the secondary effect of the card. Elijah asked if he was INTENDING to take to which he replied yes, that DOES NOT immediately “End his Chain” the striker player while clearly not be entirely sportsmanlike is completely correct in his/her activations. The judges are both correct here. Elijah just salty and trying to shark
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 The issue is that the Kash player clear just want to cheese on this. He knew that there is a linkage and just was hoping that he can cheese through this. That sort of question means no sense at all, with pure malicious intent.
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 you can easily start cheating like that, lets say i activate spright starter and my opponent is a live twin player with the live twin sunny's snitch continues spell face up on the field as i activate starter i ask so the so sunny snitch heals you for 200 and burns me for 200 right? if they say yes as humans tend to do i just quickly write down the life points proceed to go into my deck and when they drop ash i say no to late you already agreed to resolving starter because you confirmed the burn damage. there can be many such examples of small cheats you can perform. you can drop a nib saying the atk value and def value if they slip up boom your nibiru just became like a ruler no more. because you tricked your opponent.
@@justawarlord you dont choose to burn with sunny when starter resolves. You burn when it has resolved ie when starter has been sent to grave. In the nib example you did mention when they mess up. You have no haptic response to when a card is negated. So there is a good posibility that a different judge could have said: " you both implied to resolve the effect so nothing can be chained anymore". Keep in mind i dont say the judges in the video are wrong as imo there is no wrong ruling here. Its just up to interpretation wether you think its more of a case of miscomunication or a case of misplaying.
I feel like a normal response would be saying you have no response to anchor. elijah didnt say ok to anchor to signal he had no response he just went straight to attempting to resolve the chain.
The amount of meat riding that Austin does on Elijah is really ridiculous at this point. Everyone knows how toxic he is EVEN in real life yet he tries to make excuses for him in every video
there's a replay where he gets a ruling wrong, calls his opponent a db warrior and he can't be wrong cause he is a ycs champ and gets completely humbled
Judge was right. The opponent prob judt thought he asking something like wtf grinder. Elijah was sharking. Ik what his argument is and can understand him
Crazy how Elijah is winning about being called names while calling people names all the time lmao. He 100% acts like that IRL as well and with his sharking and new rule update by Konami its hopefully just a matter of time until this guy gets banned irl.
No that was clearly sharking. Elijah asked the question with the intention of forcibly making Fedd resolve the chain. Fedd never said yes to resolving the chain Elijah just gave him Fenrir before he had the option to even chain anything. Also Elijah literally tried to do the same sharking method again in game 3 with afterburner trying to force fedd into res so he couldn't chain, just disgusting really.
Funniest thing is dbg proudly telling everybody is sharking strategy lmao. Saying "think on summon of Roshi" in middle of the chain just to finesse the other guy lmao. Glad judge ruled against him
If going by "the rulebook" lets you cheese wins by forcing your opponent to resolve their chain prematurely then it makes more sense to let the judges use their own better judgment like this.
Maybe this is a thing people shouldn't do in the first place. You shouldn't ask your opponent about their intention with an optional affect that is decided at resolution; without letting them continue to build the chain. Personally, it looks to me as though the Kashtira player is intentionally using the question to cheat the Striker player. You just shouldn't do that. Also, intention vs action. "Are you going to take?" and "Are you taking?" are two drastically different questions here, and simply "take?" is an insufficient question lacking that crucial information. I agree with the judges here.
Bro dbgrinder double standards by calling Jonjones and Cashdash cheaters (rightfully so), but when it comes to someone he knows (like Elisiah) it suddenly gets downplayed. They all cheated, simple as that. And not justify it by saying, yeah he’s always toxic so what? Cuz that would be the real problem of dueling book. All the higher ups covering for each other
when the sky striker player wanted to take with widow he definitely would've said it in the chat like he did with talents @2:04. elijah definitely tried to shark him by asking a vague question and then instantly passing over the fenrir before the striker player could respond
talents is not like widow anchor. You choose which effect to activate of talents but you choose to take or not to take on resolution of the chain. Honestly this judge call could have gone both ways
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 I assume if elijah had not said anything the striker player would've said take at resolution after chaining linkage, instead because elijah asked, they confirmed at that point that they had the intention to take. The "take?" question is really vague, but the fact that he instantly gave them the fenrir makes it feel sus. The judge call could've gone either way but I don't think it's a very cool thing to do by elijah there
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 no it’s not haha. People take things waaaaay too seriously on the platform. You could misclick once and you’d get sharked into oblivion. That’s why I don’t play on there anymore, only with friends.
@@jorganquesavidez6618 no as in db is supposed to be competitive but then you also say they take it to competitive? Or no as in you cant have fun, because you definitly can. I had way more fun duels than toxic ones, also its always the same people anyway so you can either leave imediantly or try not to give them an opportunity to find sth
Yugioh just feels like it's turning into more of a debate now where you can't say anything because if you do then you run the risk of "accepting a game state" or "agreeing to resolve" when you probably are just trying to clarify each step of the way, but again, is just taken as "he meant what he said, not what he meant"...
@@HYDEinallcaps here's a pretty basic physiology lesson: people act like what they are around. If you take a lol player and force them onto a basketball team, after some (alot) time they will lose their personality traits that are that of a lol player and adopt a basketball player's traits. A person in a toxic environment will become toxic. You can see this by looking at who goes to jail. The most common denominator for people in jail is in their past they have been in contact with child protective services (aka broken homes). It is very rare for a person to start out as just bad, and even then someone who starts off bad like a psychopath can get help and become a good person. Going oh this is your fault and you reap what you sow is just very unsympathetic.
I just don't understand why the Kashtira player did all of this, just let your opponent chain Linkage, it was so clearly their intention. They're clearly just trying to scum wins instead of trying to get better, db rating doesn't matter.
Fedd was wrong in the case of how it was handled. But Elijah was leading for that to happen. We all know how the “pro players” do this. He tried catching fedd on it I agree with the judges here. If it was a couple secs or more then yeah he messed up. But like it was the same second so yeah he was trapped by answering yes. I see where it’s bendable but like it’s sharking on Elijah’s part imo
its just language barrier - in germany e.g. its common to answer a question immediatly and then add something to it. If someone asks you is that fine to you? I guess yes. But let me think about it. Thats the problem with DB, people break down human communication down to typing....thats bad so much gets lost
You're not there to communicate a conversation. You're there to communicate what's happening in the game and your intentions. Adapt. You really only need yes and no 90% of the time
@@haxmode6935 that is not how human communication works. Im sorry to tell you but we are not robots. We do not function like that. People will always act different.
@@haxmode6935 against all odds my life does not depend on my DB rating so if theres the rare case of someone like elija appearing on my screen who trys to shark me to death, i simple go next :D 90+% of all matches are smooth and people are cool. The other (10-x)% are not worth to change anything lol :S
Sharking on DB is so cringe, its obvious he wanted to chain linkage to anchor. No point in sharking and wasting time on a judge call for DB internet points
I think it’s intentionally miscommunicating, responding “yes” to “take?” (with cards still on the field after you’re activating linkage the same second as Fenrir changing control) shouldn’t mean you meant to end the chain, take the Fenrir, send cards to the graveyard. Opponent could have meant “yes I’m going to end up taking when the chain resolves”. Definitely not one-sided though.
"take?" is phrased as a yes/no question and obviously you're not gonna say no and if you don't think your opponent is communicating in bad faith or if you're not fully paying attention then I don't think anyone would have thought to write "yes but I will chain"
Legit says "does anyone watching know this broken English" and a bunch of other mean things but literally hangs on to "bu- bu- but he called me aut*****!!!" get over yourself. DB Grinder usually has a solid take on rulings but nah this wasn't it. This is some nasty sharking. Literally one second timing to flip linkage after answering a simple question about how something will resolve. Wild.
Pretty sure Elijah is just trying to scrub check when asking if taking, like obviously the striker player is gonna take and is gonna chain linkage he’s just asking the question in an incorrect way to try and make his opponent fumble as their was no intention to end the chain there.
This is the second time today I've seen Elijah mald against Strikers. Also, he still had Anchor on field, so the chain has not resolved yet. The way Elijah worded it sounds malicious and feels like just intentionally misleading. It's an L on his part
So Elijah gets to decide when to resolve he didn't ask resolve he asked take? That's can mean anything it can mean are your intentions to take it can mean are you planning on taking in res it's a lack of communication Elijah is wrong and anyone who disagrees are idiots the times agree with fredd
Happened with me before a player passed to me a card to attach to ariseheart (i had no cards in my banished pile) before i even completed the trigger chain after i said ariseheart effect!!! so i took the card with good intent as i will complete declaring the chain he said nope you resolved the chain. You can't declare other triggers, i was so freakin pissed.
He didn’t ask to resolve he just assumed it meant to resolve. That’s just sharking. And he immediately chained. He just asked question and he answered if he wanted to know if he was gonna resolve the chain he should’ve asked.
Kash player was trying to cheese. Widow Anchor states " If you control no monsters in your Main Monster Zone: Target 1 face-up Effect Monster on the field; negate that face-up monster's effects until the end of this turn, then, if you have 3 or more Spells in your GY, you can take control of that monster until the End Phase" The Sky striker player doesn't always have to take the monster they can simply only negate its effects. So he was just declaring he was going to use both effects.
Nah that's sharking, trying to win by a "gotcha" instead of playing. All that whole interaction happened in 10 secs and hes acting like sky dude is giga commited to the play lol.
I think the wording on Ash means that, if a card INCLUDES a listed effect(e.g. drawing card(s)), you can activate it. I dunno, I'm probably talking out my ass. Ask an actual judge.
Striker player should have not answered the question, but also I think in a game like yugioh implicit communication should be avoided as much as possible. When we're talking about one click being able to prevent this from happening by just thumbs upping instead of asking a question to imply you're letting it resolve I can't help but feel like the whole situation was so easily avoided it comes off as almost an angle shoot to me. Especially since Elijiah knew he had Linkage and would have to chain it to use it that turn.
Americans has to be the only people in the world that insult other people for having bad english. buddy other languages and cultures exist. You are not the center of the world. My bad if i am generalizing but i have mostly seen with just americans.
Fredd might be really be dyslexic with how he spells Fredd and how he types… saying that he was the one trying to rule shark; the first incident was ok, as he responded within a second. But the later one was clearly a miss play, the 6 second redirect attack.
I also agree with the judges. This guy asked if he’s gonna take and he said yes and in that same min he also activated his whatever that next quick play spell is. As for the autistic thing. If ur gonna punk the guy on his typing then expect to get punk’d back. No sympathy for trash talk getting trash talk back
Sorry bro but I’m on the striker side in this one. He just answered a question and chained immediately the other spell. Elijah just wants to get a free win
He switched control in the same second he activated the card . If that's not rule sharking I don't know what is . He was arguing like yugioh is single player game . You could have had a response . If it was me I probably would waited like 30 secs to see if my opp could play first
So basically Elijah is asking if hes taking to potentially mind game his opponent into agreeing to resolve the chain and not add another chain to it. Im sure he read the other FD as a striker card and asked right away. Meanwhile the striker guy was answering a question, probably just trying to be a decent opponent. However that doesn't mean you call your opponent names, or at least sneakly call him one. Thats unsportsmanlike.
Bro I've been playing irl for less than two years and I know what my opponent's trying to do with those questions, when I activate Welcome Labrynth with the field spell on play and they ask me if I'm gonna pop I just answer 'that happens on resolution' or something among those lines. Mind games are legal and part of any type of game, killing off mind games just lowers the skill ceiling and dumbs down any game. No one should be rewarded for being stupid. I'm 100% with Elijah in this particular case, I agree that it was unfortunate that according to the logs the other player chained almost at the same time, the fact that he typed his answer just shuts down any sort of discussion from my point of view.
Nah fedd was in the right, he just answered Greene’s question about his intention of taking fenrir, that doesn’t mean he resolved the chain. It’s literally not that hard to understand, especially playing yugioh on a digital platform.
Shouldn't be questioning if someone is neurodivergent and shouldn't be making fun of another person's (likely) second language, both duelists were in the wrong
Tbh i wouldve asked "take?" aswell if i didnt have a response to widow. Striker player definetely got caught off guard. Also during the last turn Elijah used prep twice🙃
As a representative of the water gang DB grinder we seek your knowledge. What tf happens to icejade gymir under shifter? I've asked many judges and half say it does not banish half say it does. This is getting kinda ridicolous, people started talking about limbo states and interactions from 2006. Please help us fellow water enjoyers.
Seems like every time dbgrinder sides with Elijah it low key blows up in his face. while I 100% agree that Fedd probably shoulda just chained to anchor right away, the rest of dbgrinder's argument goes out the window for this primary reason: Elijah knew the linkage was set. Based on reaction times it's very likely he had malicious intentions when asking the question in an attempt to enter a state where the set linkage couldnt activate.
Yes, that’s how I saw it too. Elijah seems to be in a lot of these toxic matches, coincidence?
Him going straight to "take? " shows bad intentions. Dosent respond 👍or anything, simply goes straight res trying to shark. Anyone that plays or vs striker know they mean to take when they click on the monster after negate res.
It's also very reasonable to not immediately chain. It's a skillful tactic to wait for a response to take away more resources.
Example if they have cosmic: you bait the cosmic and chain Linkage on the cosmic target.
Thank you. Literally everyone sees this except DB grinder which is shocking to see him on the wrong side of events
@@sasukelownwolf Grinder's just THAT addicted to the taste of Eli's balls.
Gotta say, im with the judges on this one. Certainty seems like kash player was trying to cheese it.
I agree with kitty here. There was never explicit communication that fedd chose not to chain something onto it. Just because elijah asked a question on how something would resolve, it doesnt decide that the chain is now resolving.
He said yes to taking w anchor tho, you/the activator of Widow anchor CHOOSE if you wanna take or not, elijah was asking if he was gonna take, he said yes. Any person with decent understanding would assume they were gonna take it.
Also doesnt help the striker player didntngo in the same message "yeah, but imma chain"
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216 that's really the only reason I'm kinda siding with Elijah here. That exchange coulda been avoided if Fedd just immediately chained to anchor instead of getting suckered in by answering his question.
@@RayMon504 i dont think rewarding the player for "suckering in" his opponent is a good thing for the game. the question was clearly w the intent to rush him into resolving the chain
Elijah would’ve bitched about the linkage being flipped regardless of when it happened. The cards Fedd had pissed him off, we’ve seen it before. I think he just said yes to make the communication clear when asked, wasn’t about resolution. 1 second in between activations and elijah passed the fenrir before anything else could’ve happened.
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216 just so you know, you as a player cannot ask your opponent if they wish to resolve a part of an effect and assume that the upon agreeing with you, that the chain is over. Yugioh is not played in that way
Its insane how much of a crying baby Elijah is. 2 judges ruled against him and he still thinks he is in the right. Truly a clown. Rule sharking on its finest. Striker player didnt put anchor to the GY. That should be more than enough of a sign that the chain didnt resolve.
Yup yup. Once the chain is finished you send the cards to GY. Elijah literally just threw the fenrir ASAP after asking and didn’t even ask for which zone.
@@MisterProKoko73This argument is just stupid lmao, the striker play can just move it.
Secondly the take is WHEN YOURE RESOLVING widow anchor, and Elijah asked if he was gonna take
@@airamwnunezdelgado8216lmfao you are just as big a clown to think answering the question means he is resolving. Its obvious to everyone that he asked him the question right away and tossed to try and argue against him chaining. He should have stayed quiet and fedd would say take he asked him because he was being a toxic ruleshark and it didnt work so now he is pissed cus nobody is buying his bs. If he was good enough he wouldnt have to ruleshard this hard to get out of a chain.
This elijah guy is exactly the reason people despise the ygo community
I think u mean any community but for real tho it not that deep
99% of yugioh players don’t know who or what he is so dw
Sounds like a skill issue. 😊
Elijah is literally in the right 100% here, how can you side with Fedd??
@@peacewalker991 i think the only reasonable counterpoint to elijah is that his question could be interpreted as a way to trick the opp into that exact situation, but according to the rules elijah was in the right.
People like Elijah are the reason DB has such a limited player base.
I'm with the striker player on this one (except the insult part). Elijah was being really sharky with the saying take means you're resolving chain angle, he flipped linkage the same second elijah passed fenrir and you've agreed in the past that less than 1 second is not a reaction it's thing they were doing anyways.
Insult -the part where he patronisingly asked if Elijah is autistic? That's a really, really light ribbing considering it took Elijah much less time to call his opponent's English sh**ty and to mock his attempts at communication. It's hard to learn a second language; nobody deserves to be ridiculed like that, least of all people who are trying to defend themselves from an imbecile.
@@Lollbunzee exactly i thought the same thing. This guy probably only speaks english which makes it funny. Like u only speak one language and u gonna make fun of someone else who speaks more than u? Like stfu. That rly made him look bad
"except the insult part"
Ever hear the phrase "treat others the way you want to be treated?" Well, Elijah's just being treated the way he clearly wants to be treated.
I mean if you act like you’re autistic don’t be surprised when people ask if you are.
He asked take on purpose so he would answer yes and give immediately to him sobhe cant linkage. Im pretty sure he knows how widow anchor works. He just said yes cause he asked.
both judges were really reasonable reading the little context they had.
elijah knew he had linkage seted from multirole, he MALICIOUSLY asked that and when he got the awser he wanted, he tryed to shark him, ignoring that theres a time window before one resolves or add something to a chain.
the judges couldnt see this much but it gets clear knowing elijah has a historic on sharking.
That kash player hella cheating game 1 lmao. Just accept that you got outplayed.
When the secondary condition of a striker spell is met and able to apply you as the player must declare weather your applying the secondary effect of the card. Elijah asked if he was INTENDING to take to which he replied yes, that DOES NOT immediately “End his Chain” the striker player while clearly not be entirely sportsmanlike is completely correct in his/her activations. The judges are both correct here. Elijah just salty and trying to shark
you apply the card on res, you dont say on activation wether you want to take btw
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 The issue is that the Kash player clear just want to cheese on this. He knew that there is a linkage and just was hoping that he can cheese through this. That sort of question means no sense at all, with pure malicious intent.
@@Andrew-tt8rp you say clearly and mali intent but i doubt anyone can actually proof wether it was mali intent or not mali intent
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 you can easily start cheating like that, lets say i activate spright starter and my opponent is a live twin player with the live twin sunny's snitch continues spell face up on the field as i activate starter i ask so the so sunny snitch heals you for 200 and burns me for 200 right? if they say yes as humans tend to do i just quickly write down the life points proceed to go into my deck and when they drop ash i say no to late you already agreed to resolving starter because you confirmed the burn damage. there can be many such examples of small cheats you can perform. you can drop a nib saying the atk value and def value if they slip up boom your nibiru just became like a ruler no more. because you tricked your opponent.
@@justawarlord you dont choose to burn with sunny when starter resolves. You burn when it has resolved ie when starter has been sent to grave.
In the nib example you did mention when they mess up.
You have no haptic response to when a card is negated.
So there is a good posibility that a different judge could have said: " you both implied to resolve the effect so nothing can be chained anymore".
Keep in mind i dont say the judges in the video are wrong as imo there is no wrong ruling here.
Its just up to interpretation wether you think its more of a case of miscomunication or a case of misplaying.
Elijah was trying so hard to shark. What a disgusting excuse of a human being.
When I think of disgusting human beings, I think of racists, homophobes and criminals, not a dude who got heated over a card game. Get a grip.
@@paulpihl4935 N
yas true
I feel like a normal response would be saying you have no response to anchor. elijah didnt say ok to anchor to signal he had no response he just went straight to attempting to resolve the chain.
Im tilted by this, elijah is baiting a bad answer with that question instead of just saying "no response" or "resolves"
The amount of meat riding that Austin does on Elijah is really ridiculous at this point. Everyone knows how toxic he is EVEN in real life yet he tries to make excuses for him in every video
The guy is getting punched one day and ask why
ohio vs flordia ironman?? we finna cook yall no cap
Elijah definitely in the wrong. Seems like he asked out of bad faith.
Elijah always gets in toxic matches🤦♂️
Im sure you can find more replays of his him being toxic
its almost like he's the problem.
That’s what happens when you play a lot
That’s what happens when you play a lot
there's a replay where he gets a ruling wrong, calls his opponent a db warrior and he can't be wrong cause he is a ycs champ and gets completely humbled
Completely agree with the judge tbh
Both judges are phonies
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@@GrandChaseHotStuven Go to bed, Elijah
DB Chungus really riding hard this time
Judge was right. The opponent prob judt thought he asking something like wtf grinder. Elijah was sharking. Ik what his argument is and can understand him
*sees TOXIC TOXIC in title*
*notices Elijah Green in the video*
Makes sense 💀
Elijah Trying to pull a Fast one, No suprise here dude is as toxic as it gets
Crazy how Elijah is winning about being called names while calling people names all the time lmao.
He 100% acts like that IRL as well and with his sharking and new rule update by Konami its hopefully just a matter of time until this guy gets banned irl.
No that was clearly sharking. Elijah asked the question with the intention of forcibly making Fedd resolve the chain. Fedd never said yes to resolving the chain Elijah just gave him Fenrir before he had the option to even chain anything. Also Elijah literally tried to do the same sharking method again in game 3 with afterburner trying to force fedd into res so he couldn't chain, just disgusting really.
Funniest thing is dbg proudly telling everybody is sharking strategy lmao. Saying "think on summon of Roshi" in middle of the chain just to finesse the other guy lmao. Glad judge ruled against him
DB meat riding Elijah green again at least he’s loyal again
Every judge with a minimum of common sense would have allowed that chain in an irl event. Elijah here tried to rule shark plain and simple
Also elijah constantly commenting about a clearly foreign players' english is craaazy
If going by "the rulebook" lets you cheese wins by forcing your opponent to resolve their chain prematurely then it makes more sense to let the judges use their own better judgment like this.
Maybe this is a thing people shouldn't do in the first place. You shouldn't ask your opponent about their intention with an optional affect that is decided at resolution; without letting them continue to build the chain. Personally, it looks to me as though the Kashtira player is intentionally using the question to cheat the Striker player. You just shouldn't do that. Also, intention vs action. "Are you going to take?" and "Are you taking?" are two drastically different questions here, and simply "take?" is an insufficient question lacking that crucial information. I agree with the judges here.
Yeah that's the point. Kash player was trying to force his opponent to misplay. Especially because Elijah knew linkage was set.
Bro dbgrinder double standards by calling Jonjones and Cashdash cheaters (rightfully so), but when it comes to someone he knows (like Elisiah) it suddenly gets downplayed.
They all cheated, simple as that. And not justify it by saying, yeah he’s always toxic so what? Cuz that would be the real problem of dueling book. All the higher ups covering for each other
when the sky striker player wanted to take with widow he definitely would've said it in the chat like he did with talents @2:04. elijah definitely tried to shark him by asking a vague question and then instantly passing over the fenrir before the striker player could respond
talents is not like widow anchor. You choose which effect to activate of talents but you choose to take or not to take on resolution of the chain. Honestly this judge call could have gone both ways
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 I assume if elijah had not said anything the striker player would've said take at resolution after chaining linkage, instead because elijah asked, they confirmed at that point that they had the intention to take. The "take?" question is really vague, but the fact that he instantly gave them the fenrir makes it feel sus. The judge call could've gone either way but I don't think it's a very cool thing to do by elijah there
@@iceize101 its definitly not a cool action. At the end db is either for testing for having fun anyway
@@Uchiha_Sasuke209 no it’s not haha. People take things waaaaay too seriously on the platform. You could misclick once and you’d get sharked into oblivion. That’s why I don’t play on there anymore, only with friends.
@@jorganquesavidez6618 no as in db is supposed to be competitive but then you also say they take it to competitive?
Or no as in you cant have fun, because you definitly can. I had way more fun duels than toxic ones, also its always the same people anyway so you can either leave imediantly or try not to give them an opportunity to find sth
Yugioh just feels like it's turning into more of a debate now where you can't say anything because if you do then you run the risk of "accepting a game state" or "agreeing to resolve" when you probably are just trying to clarify each step of the way, but again, is just taken as "he meant what he said, not what he meant"...
Elijah literally called me retarded but gets mad when people call him names lmao
Asking "take?" Is a bait by Eli
HUH? its literally saying "i have no responce lets resolve" any striker player would know to say "cl2" before saying take
@@TheDBGrinder opponent hasnto respond with something that isn't a normal answer to take. Its a minor mental speed-bump
@@TheDBGrinder the real tragedy is eli not wanting to let him chain his effects normally in a DB game that should be for testing yea?
@@TheDBGrinder I guess in a tournament setting your take is fine but it seems real rules sharky for DB to not let the man chain
Elijah just seems to always be having bad days. Wonder if how much people make fun of him has to do with it
well ofc since he is the toxic one....
@@cv_justice4774 people always acting different online
He's reaping what he sows.
@@HYDEinallcaps here's a pretty basic physiology lesson: people act like what they are around. If you take a lol player and force them onto a basketball team, after some (alot) time they will lose their personality traits that are that of a lol player and adopt a basketball player's traits. A person in a toxic environment will become toxic. You can see this by looking at who goes to jail. The most common denominator for people in jail is in their past they have been in contact with child protective services (aka broken homes). It is very rare for a person to start out as just bad, and even then someone who starts off bad like a psychopath can get help and become a good person. Going oh this is your fault and you reap what you sow is just very unsympathetic.
I just don't understand why the Kashtira player did all of this, just let your opponent chain Linkage, it was so clearly their intention. They're clearly just trying to scum wins instead of trying to get better, db rating doesn't matter.
Man, the Kashtira player just radiates small PP energy
Fedd was wrong in the case of how it was handled. But Elijah was leading for that to happen. We all know how the “pro players” do this. He tried catching fedd on it I agree with the judges here. If it was a couple secs or more then yeah he messed up. But like it was the same second so yeah he was trapped by answering yes. I see where it’s bendable but like it’s sharking on Elijah’s part imo
its just language barrier - in germany e.g. its common to answer a question immediatly and then add something to it. If someone asks you is that fine to you? I guess yes. But let me think about it. Thats the problem with DB, people break down human communication down to typing....thats bad so much gets lost
You're not there to communicate a conversation. You're there to communicate what's happening in the game and your intentions. Adapt. You really only need yes and no 90% of the time
@@haxmode6935 that is not how human communication works. Im sorry to tell you but we are not robots. We do not function like that. People will always act different.
@@cv_justice4774 if you can't act like how you need to act in dB rated, don't play dB rated lol
@@haxmode6935 against all odds my life does not depend on my DB rating so if theres the rare case of someone like elija appearing on my screen who trys to shark me to death, i simple go next :D 90+% of all matches are smooth and people are cool. The other (10-x)% are not worth to change anything lol :S
@@haxmode6935 godamn you need to touch grass lmfao
Sharking on DB is so cringe, its obvious he wanted to chain linkage to anchor.
No point in sharking and wasting time on a judge call for DB internet points
Yeah Elijah was outa line game 1.
I think it’s intentionally miscommunicating, responding “yes” to “take?” (with cards still on the field after you’re activating linkage the same second as Fenrir changing control) shouldn’t mean you meant to end the chain, take the Fenrir, send cards to the graveyard. Opponent could have meant “yes I’m going to end up taking when the chain resolves”. Definitely not one-sided though.
"take?" is phrased as a yes/no question and obviously you're not gonna say no and if you don't think your opponent is communicating in bad faith or if you're not fully paying attention then I don't think anyone would have thought to write "yes but I will chain"
Oh DB Grinder, you're MEATRIDING Elijah again....
Legit says "does anyone watching know this broken English" and a bunch of other mean things but literally hangs on to "bu- bu- but he called me aut*****!!!" get over yourself.
DB Grinder usually has a solid take on rulings but nah this wasn't it. This is some nasty sharking. Literally one second timing to flip linkage after answering a simple question about how something will resolve. Wild.
Why would he ask how Widow Anchor is resolving as he activates it? Giving Fred no time to chain
Elijah just has a big and fragile ego
Elijah is always in this toxic matches.
Crazy that Green is known internationally for this behavior. Thought he was chill now
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Elijah trying to get a freeze because he knows he lost the game regardless lol
Pretty sure Elijah is just trying to scrub check when asking if taking, like obviously the striker player is gonna take and is gonna chain linkage he’s just asking the question in an incorrect way to try and make his opponent fumble as their was no intention to end the chain there.
Elijah, go to bed.
He clearly intended to chain linkage lmao
elijah sharking again seriously how isn’t he perma banned at this point
W judges, Elijah stays being a walking L.
"when you see toxic replays, you think of me?" kiilled me XD
If he Elijah understands Widow Anchor takes on resolution, why is he asking on activation if he's going to take?
hes agreeing to it resolving
Elijah big baby for this one lol
Sky player looked like he was genuinely asking if his opponent has a different perception of understanding there, I wouldn't have warned him ahahaha
This is the second time today I've seen Elijah mald against Strikers. Also, he still had Anchor on field, so the chain has not resolved yet. The way Elijah worded it sounds malicious and feels like just intentionally misleading. It's an L on his part
So Elijah gets to decide when to resolve he didn't ask resolve he asked take? That's can mean anything it can mean are your intentions to take it can mean are you planning on taking in res it's a lack of communication Elijah is wrong and anyone who disagrees are idiots the times agree with fredd
I seen Toxic Toxic on the thumbnail, that means I click the video. Thanks for the content DBG.
@DB Grinder We all saw you in the watchers list that’s why we were talking about you.
Lol @elijah asking why judges hate him
Dog elijah needs his fins and teeth because he was STRAIGHT up sharking
Happened with me before a player passed to me a card to attach to ariseheart (i had no cards in my banished pile) before i even completed the trigger chain after i said ariseheart effect!!! so i took the card with good intent as i will complete declaring the chain he said nope you resolved the chain. You can't declare other triggers, i was so freakin pissed.
Elijah sharking because hes in a losing situation, no way he argues that much or cares for the Autistic comments if he's in a winning situation
He didn’t ask to resolve he just assumed it meant to resolve. That’s just sharking. And he immediately chained. He just asked question and he answered if he wanted to know if he was gonna resolve the chain he should’ve asked.
he said MEATRIDING?? i’m dead
"Take?" Is not the same as ok, resolves. Thumbs up, no response. Go ahead, or no quick effects
ah, yes, the classic "excuse me Sir, are you a fckin imbecil?" question. Totally out of curiosity and not in a malicious or offensive intent.
Kash player was trying to cheese. Widow Anchor states " If you control no monsters in your Main Monster Zone: Target 1 face-up Effect Monster on the field; negate that face-up monster's effects until the end of this turn, then, if you have 3 or more Spells in your GY, you can take control of that monster until the End Phase" The Sky striker player doesn't always have to take the monster they can simply only negate its effects. So he was just declaring he was going to use both effects.
Sky striker was definitely in the right bro, “Take?” Doesn’t specify much…didn’t even give him an opportunity to say anything
this elijah dude always acting crazy online😂 i know he quiet as hell after seeing lil guy in person🤣🤣🤣
26:36 the “You have to focus” is sending me 😂
just cause elijah slid him the fenrir when he knows he set linkage doesnt mean the chains over lol
5:54 "right as they pass" literally on the same second as they pass and 1 second after saying yes...
Damn the Elijah dude needs to get off his cross, thinking judges are out to get him 😂
Nah that's sharking, trying to win by a "gotcha" instead of playing. All that whole interaction happened in 10 secs and hes acting like sky dude is giga commited to the play lol.
Dont you have to say which effect you are using in order for them to respond? Like you cant ash unless they say draw 2
I think the wording on Ash means that, if a card INCLUDES a listed effect(e.g. drawing card(s)), you can activate it. I dunno, I'm probably talking out my ass. Ask an actual judge.
Imagine being a ycs champion and acting like this on db🤡
Prob he does it in IRL. It just takes one guy really pissed at regionals to change hia face structure and attitude.
Striker player should have not answered the question, but also I think in a game like yugioh implicit communication should be avoided as much as possible. When we're talking about one click being able to prevent this from happening by just thumbs upping instead of asking a question to imply you're letting it resolve I can't help but feel like the whole situation was so easily avoided it comes off as almost an angle shoot to me. Especially since Elijiah knew he had Linkage and would have to chain it to use it that turn.
Def on fedds side here. That's a ridiculous thing to ruling snipe someone for.
Americans has to be the only people in the world that insult other people for having bad english. buddy other languages and cultures exist. You are not the center of the world. My bad if i am generalizing but i have mostly seen with just americans.
Fredd might be really be dyslexic with how he spells Fredd and how he types… saying that he was the one trying to rule shark; the first incident was ok, as he responded within a second. But the later one was clearly a miss play, the 6 second redirect attack.
I also agree with the judges. This guy asked if he’s gonna take and he said yes and in that same min he also activated his whatever that next quick play spell is. As for the autistic thing. If ur gonna punk the guy on his typing then expect to get punk’d back. No sympathy for trash talk getting trash talk back
Fedd shouldn’t have asked if the opponent is autistic but other than that I believe he was right
Sorry bro but I’m on the striker side in this one. He just answered a question and chained immediately the other spell. Elijah just wants to get a free win
100 percent Elijah wanted to shark to win , Elijah is your buddy that’s why you making the other guy look bad.
Elijah green meat grinder fr
He switched control in the same second he activated the card . If that's not rule sharking I don't know what is . He was arguing like yugioh is single player game . You could have had a response . If it was me I probably would waited like 30 secs to see if my opp could play first
Kashtira dude can kick rocks tbh
come on db grinder you knew what he was doing. that was 100 percent sharking. And your roshi story is 100 percent sharking.
THEY LITERALLY RESOLVED THE CARD VS ME AND I USED SOMETHING ON SUMMON like HUH???? just say you bad bro
So basically Elijah is asking if hes taking to potentially mind game his opponent into agreeing to resolve the chain and not add another chain to it. Im sure he read the other FD as a striker card and asked right away. Meanwhile the striker guy was answering a question, probably just trying to be a decent opponent. However that doesn't mean you call your opponent names, or at least sneakly call him one. Thats unsportsmanlike.
Bro I've been playing irl for less than two years and I know what my opponent's trying to do with those questions, when I activate Welcome Labrynth with the field spell on play and they ask me if I'm gonna pop I just answer 'that happens on resolution' or something among those lines. Mind games are legal and part of any type of game, killing off mind games just lowers the skill ceiling and dumbs down any game. No one should be rewarded for being stupid. I'm 100% with Elijah in this particular case, I agree that it was unfortunate that according to the logs the other player chained almost at the same time, the fact that he typed his answer just shuts down any sort of discussion from my point of view.
Nah fedd was in the right, he just answered Greene’s question about his intention of taking fenrir, that doesn’t mean he resolved the chain. It’s literally not that hard to understand, especially playing yugioh on a digital platform.
Shouldn't be questioning if someone is neurodivergent and shouldn't be making fun of another person's (likely) second language, both duelists were in the wrong
Tbh i wouldve asked "take?" aswell if i didnt have a response to widow. Striker player definetely got caught off guard. Also during the last turn Elijah used prep twice🙃
Im a simple man. I see toxic toxic I watch.
elijah was legit trying to cheat in a db match smh
I seriously can not believe people side with Elijah on that one. This is brain worms 💀
As a Striker player I said “oh no” when he tried to activate linkage
As a representative of the water gang DB grinder we seek your knowledge.
What tf happens to icejade gymir under shifter?
I've asked many judges and half say it does not banish half say it does.
This is getting kinda ridicolous, people started talking about limbo states and interactions from 2006.
Please help us fellow water enjoyers.