I hate that I tell myself I watch these for educational purposes, but then I see TOXIC TOXIC and I can’t help but get excited…DBG knows what he’s doing
... and he said: "Goodbye sweet friend, I will see you in the future, I appreciate our time together" XD DB Grinder popping off as always with the comms
Lit, I've seen a guy that has been playing for over 10 years try to make up a card's effect, disregarding what it says in it. Thankfully the head judge told him to shut up.
The reason for Sprind is because Sprind specifically specifies Xyz Monster, and a face-down monster is not that; going by card text alone, it shouldn't work in the TCG. This is completely different, Beauty simply wants to attach the card on the field to itself, and it being booked doesn't make a difference because it's still 'this card' and it never specified face-up or Xyz Monster. 101 works the same. Gigantic can detach from face-down monsters as it does not specify Xyz Monster.
Now this is the dueling book experience I know. Someone who has absolutely no idea about rulings linking you a facebook/reddit page that has absolutely no relevance to the ruling you're talking about, calling a judge when there's no one online and sitting there for 30 minutes until someone leaves. I had an extremely simple one 2 weeks ago where I explained to my opponent how PSCT works from the ground up and they still wouldn't listen, after 40 minutes of waiting for a judge I just left.
TBH, sprind can still detach from facedown. We have the time thief winder that can detach from facedown for cost and redoer/ gigantic still detach facedown xyz for effect.
"Yes, you can detach an Xyz Material from a face-down Xyz Monster to activate Spright Sprind's effect. Normally, cards that detach materials either specify that the Xyz Monster needs to be face-up (Xyz Encore), or have an additional stipulation that inherently requires the Xyz to be face-up (Grandpa Demetto needing "Princess Cologne"; Kurivolt requiring to target an Xyz Monster; Barrage Blast needing Machine Xyz Monsters). Aside from those, it doesn't matter if the Xyz Monster is face-up or face-down, it's public knowledge that it has Xyz Materials so the game allows you to interact with them. (Even tho we can't recognize if the face-down monster itself is an Xyz Monster or not for the purposes of Cross-Sheep, Zoodiac Tigermortar, etc). For example: Time Thief Winder, Time Thief Bezel Ship, Springans Captain Sargas, Gigantic Spright, Space Cyclone and Overlay Owl can detach materials from a face-down Xyz Monster without problems. Time Thief Winder and Bezel Ship are written similar to Spright Sprind and their Database FAQs clarify that they can detach from a face-down Xyz: db.ygorganization.com/card#14353 db.ygorganization.com/card#14354 "Detach 1 Xyz Material from a monster you control" and "detach 1 material from an Xyz Monster you control" are synonyms here."
We see a lot and a lot of Purely replays, is it possible to have some Despia ones as well as some more Mannadom duels in a near future ? These are interesting decks to watch out for considering they have seen new support coming in the last extensions ^^ Thank you for the commentaries and tech choices sometimes (Book on Kashtira in case the opponent just battles Arise-Heart with a single monster, ...)
That shows exactly why u need to know rulings to be a great player instead of just being good. I like the "sacked" argument from champion here while his deck is only build to beat the mirror.
@@ll-gx1bk You are wrong there. A win is nice, a win against a good player is EARNED. That's why people send replays winning a good/respected player while they probably have a truckload more against worse players that don't even bother send. If N3sh was winning every game, he should have been banned from DB for hacking, none wins every game.
Well I feel Nesh needs to go back to judge school. Yet he is a player. The rule is in chain with beauty and book of moon or even Dino play. The cost is send a card to graveyard. Player responds in chain. Then the chain resolves xyz is flipped facedown and a card is then attached on resolution, similar to tactics taking a monster in resolution I do like how NESH came back in and apologize I can only imagine that discord voice where coder and NeSH talked lol.
@@Shadow4707 What you are referring to is equip effects, not Xyz Materials. There, we have 2 basic distinctions: 1) If the effect TARGETS, like DBG said for example Thousand-Eyes Restrict, the card will indeed go to the GY. This is because the effect resolves properly and you equip the card but it gets immediately destroyed by game mechanics. 2) If the effect doesn't target, like D/D/D Wave Oblivion King Caesar Ragnarok, the card stays as it is and the effect resolves doing nothing. This way is also how the new Gold Pride fusion works. I named those 2 specific monsters because there are official rulings about them for you to check out in the database. For the Xyz materials, the monster is still considered an Xyz even if face-down, or else it wouldn't be able to have Xyz Materials. This isn't a case similar to cards holding spell counters. If you want a precedence ruling, both Gigantic Spright and Sprind can detach materials from facedown Xyz monsters. Also the explanation DBG gave about BLS and Chaos Sorcerer is slightly incorrect. The "that target" in Chaos Sorcerer's effect means the target will be checked again during resolution whether it is legal or not (Calcab uses the same). And a legal target is a "face-up monster". If it had "banish it" or "banish that card" the effect would go through. Thus the "Attach it to this card" works even if you chain Book of Moon in Pretty Memory's case based on the previous rulings.
please correct me if I wrong. if the card text "attach to this xyz monster as material" it can't attach when the monster is facedown. but the text is "attach to this card as material" face down monster still counted as card so it can be attached.
Yes that's exactly how it works, when a card, when the card is face-down the "game" does not recognize if the card is an xyz monster or not, so if the card said "attach to this xyz monster as material" you couldn't attach to it because you don't know if it is an xyz monster, in this case since it says "attach to this card as material", you don't need to know if it's an xyz monster or not to attach
If you see Kash vs any other matchup and one player is a bozo, it's very likely going to be a the Kash player 💀 Textbook example of 0815 Kash player. Not enough braincells to play without floatgates and complaining about sack when missplaying pretty hard.
Scareclaw negates effects of monsters battled by kash/scare monsters until the end of the turn. The moment it declares an attack on zeus it's doing nothing, that's why he said zeus should be in attack position, rival would've at least lost the scare by doing that
@26:00 Hey DBG, you first explain a proper play and how you get the most out of the situation then assume they don't have enough experience with the deck due to the previous interactions you already mentioned. 100% not trash talk but instead constructive criticism and probably a correct educated guess. That's the main reason I watch your content!
Champion duelist is a clown lmfao he’s lucky his opp didn’t give out the same energy he was being given cause me? I’m going IN on him after all that talk and just being continuously wrong
I hate that I tell myself I watch these for educational purposes, but then I see TOXIC TOXIC and I can’t help but get excited…DBG knows what he’s doing
Excellent marketing on his end
It's the only reason I'm watching tbh
I've never rooted harder for a purrely player than while watching this match lmfao
Thank God we got the right ruling there for the judge call. I'd have been livid if that happened to me and they got it wrong like that
20:08 bros gone be reading for days with that hand holy
The cameos this video went crazyyyy, great appeal no cap
... and he said: "Goodbye sweet friend, I will see you in the future, I appreciate our time together" XD DB Grinder popping off as always with the comms
These are nice to get players ready for how some "sponsored" players are irl.
Lit, I've seen a guy that has been playing for over 10 years try to make up a card's effect, disregarding what it says in it. Thankfully the head judge told him to shut up.
The reason for Sprind is because Sprind specifically specifies Xyz Monster, and a face-down monster is not that; going by card text alone, it shouldn't work in the TCG. This is completely different, Beauty simply wants to attach the card on the field to itself, and it being booked doesn't make a difference because it's still 'this card' and it never specified face-up or Xyz Monster. 101 works the same.
Gigantic can detach from face-down monsters as it does not specify Xyz Monster.
Goodbye sweet friend I will see you in the future I appreciated our time together
Family friendly grinder
These DB dudes have such high egos for a game that relies so much on luck
this why i cant play DB for exact reasons like this
Not only that but people forgot this is a game LMAO
All those rated points don't matter real life
Wait till you meet VG players .. lmao!! They have no rated and VG is just a glorified slot machine
Now this is the dueling book experience I know. Someone who has absolutely no idea about rulings linking you a facebook/reddit page that has absolutely no relevance to the ruling you're talking about, calling a judge when there's no one online and sitting there for 30 minutes until someone leaves. I had an extremely simple one 2 weeks ago where I explained to my opponent how PSCT works from the ground up and they still wouldn't listen, after 40 minutes of waiting for a judge I just left.
except in this case the dude linking facebook, calling a judge, and even appealing was actually the one in the right for a change haha
@@creeerik Oh wait the purrely player was the one that linked the facebook page, damn. Yeah usually it's the other way around lol
#FreeMyLoaf
26:30 had me dying XDDDD
"goodbye sweet friend, see you in the future, appreciated our time together"
TBH, sprind can still detach from facedown. We have the time thief winder that can detach from facedown for cost and redoer/ gigantic still detach facedown xyz for effect.
"Yes, you can detach an Xyz Material from a face-down Xyz Monster to activate Spright Sprind's effect.
Normally, cards that detach materials either specify that the Xyz Monster needs to be face-up (Xyz Encore), or have an additional stipulation that inherently requires the Xyz to be face-up (Grandpa Demetto needing "Princess Cologne"; Kurivolt requiring to target an Xyz Monster; Barrage Blast needing Machine Xyz Monsters).
Aside from those, it doesn't matter if the Xyz Monster is face-up or face-down, it's public knowledge that it has Xyz Materials so the game allows you to interact with them. (Even tho we can't recognize if the face-down monster itself is an Xyz Monster or not for the purposes of Cross-Sheep, Zoodiac Tigermortar, etc).
For example: Time Thief Winder, Time Thief Bezel Ship, Springans Captain Sargas, Gigantic Spright, Space Cyclone and Overlay Owl can detach materials from a face-down Xyz Monster without problems.
Time Thief Winder and Bezel Ship are written similar to Spright Sprind and their Database FAQs clarify that they can detach from a face-down Xyz:
db.ygorganization.com/card#14353
db.ygorganization.com/card#14354
"Detach 1 Xyz Material from a monster you control" and "detach 1 material from an Xyz Monster you control" are synonyms here."
@@giahuyha6189 ty
We see a lot and a lot of Purely replays, is it possible to have some Despia ones as well as some more Mannadom duels in a near future ? These are interesting decks to watch out for considering they have seen new support coming in the last extensions ^^
Thank you for the commentaries and tech choices sometimes (Book on Kashtira in case the opponent just battles Arise-Heart with a single monster, ...)
These videos make me so excited for no reason
26:40 i was so satisfied too
That shows exactly why u need to know rulings to be a great player instead of just being good. I like the "sacked" argument from champion here while his deck is only build to beat the mirror.
Ironic username detected
the euphoria I would have felt as (b^_^)b after that appeal in my favor would be unmatched
Kashtira player's about to release a new autobiography. It's called:
Wah
That was fucking wild AHAHAHAHAHAH, first time in 3 years i see n3sh messing up
Uncommon N3sh L
Not that uncommon when it comes to defending shitty people
Bro on this channel is only L's from him, now even outside his matches
Bro I'm so disappointed on this too.
You mean Nash
@@ll-gx1bk You are wrong there. A win is nice, a win against a good player is EARNED. That's why people send replays winning a good/respected player while they probably have a truckload more against worse players that don't even bother send. If N3sh was winning every game, he should have been banned from DB for hacking, none wins every game.
The name is a happy face with thumbs up
Also every YCS I’ve been to recently sprind has been ruled you can detach from facedown.
Gotta love adults getting their egos hurt over a literal children’s card game.
So glad to see the purrely guy be the hero
Well I feel Nesh needs to go back to judge school. Yet he is a player. The rule is in chain with beauty and book of moon or even Dino play. The cost is send a card to graveyard. Player responds in chain. Then the chain resolves xyz is flipped facedown and a card is then attached on resolution, similar to tactics taking a monster in resolution
I do like how NESH came back in and apologize I can only imagine that discord voice where coder and NeSH talked lol.
Wow. Even if the card wasn't attached to the face-down Xyz, it would still go to the graveyard. Which he also probably didn't know.
it doesnt work like that , its not the same as like Thousand eyes restrict/metalfoes guy
@@TheDBGrinder It is not? Do you know a precedence ruling for that?
@@Shadow4707 What you are referring to is equip effects, not Xyz Materials. There, we have 2 basic distinctions:
1) If the effect TARGETS, like DBG said for example Thousand-Eyes Restrict, the card will indeed go to the GY. This is because the effect resolves properly and you equip the card but it gets immediately destroyed by game mechanics.
2) If the effect doesn't target, like D/D/D Wave Oblivion King Caesar Ragnarok, the card stays as it is and the effect resolves doing nothing. This way is also how the new Gold Pride fusion works.
I named those 2 specific monsters because there are official rulings about them for you to check out in the database.
For the Xyz materials, the monster is still considered an Xyz even if face-down, or else it wouldn't be able to have Xyz Materials. This isn't a case similar to cards holding spell counters. If you want a precedence ruling, both Gigantic Spright and Sprind can detach materials from facedown Xyz monsters.
Also the explanation DBG gave about BLS and Chaos Sorcerer is slightly incorrect. The "that target" in Chaos Sorcerer's effect means the target will be checked again during resolution whether it is legal or not (Calcab uses the same). And a legal target is a "face-up monster". If it had "banish it" or "banish that card" the effect would go through. Thus the "Attach it to this card" works even if you chain Book of Moon in Pretty Memory's case based on the previous rulings.
We gotta free that loaf of bread
That dude saying "nash" over and over was tilting me
Bro free my loaf of bread it didn’t do nothing wrong
please correct me if I wrong.
if the card text "attach to this xyz monster as material" it can't attach when the monster is facedown.
but the text is "attach to this card as material" face down monster still counted as card so it can be attached.
Yes that's exactly how it works, when a card, when the card is face-down the "game" does not recognize if the card is an xyz monster or not, so if the card said "attach to this xyz monster as material" you couldn't attach to it because you don't know if it is an xyz monster, in this case since it says "attach to this card as material", you don't need to know if it's an xyz monster or not to attach
Why am I so pulled in by chemical wasted corner of this game…
😂 am I reading that card correctly? 22:54
I’m confused. Didn’t coder say it would attach? Why didn’t he attach it?
he did, he attached the set card (big bang ~theory~)via the pretty effect of pretty
@@turbidkiddo ahh I thought he targeted unicorn
Dude got rolled and smoked
If you see Kash vs any other matchup and one player is a bozo, it's very likely going to be a the Kash player 💀
Textbook example of 0815 Kash player. Not enough braincells to play without floatgates and complaining about sack when missplaying pretty hard.
The C word is not very nice to say lol
don't understand why he shotgunned zeus in game 1? how is scareclaw by itself threatening anything?
Scareclaw negates effects of monsters battled by kash/scare monsters until the end of the turn. The moment it declares an attack on zeus it's doing nothing, that's why he said zeus should be in attack position, rival would've at least lost the scare by doing that
It will attack zeus and negate it, so he cannot zeus anymore later on
@@rurami_ damn I always thought it was just til the end of the battle, good to know thanks guys
Should've got put N3SH on a call
Can someone explain to me why the Purrely player wiped with Zeus when bp ogre in game 1? Was it just to prevent a zeus play or am I missing something?
@@DinulF ahh o though it was just negated for the battle that makes more sense
And yeah I’m not good with the names 😅
jaa my matches really toxic, just how i like them
@26:00 Hey DBG, you first explain a proper play and how you get the most out of the situation then assume they don't have enough experience with the deck due to the previous interactions you already mentioned. 100% not trash talk but instead constructive criticism and probably a correct educated guess. That's the main reason I watch your content!
Player builds worst kashtira decklist of all time, asked to leave Dueling Book
Champion duelist is a clown lmfao he’s lucky his opp didn’t give out the same energy he was being given cause me? I’m going IN on him after all that talk and just being continuously wrong
Nesh made me mad af
N3sh is FREE
Hmmm DBG didn't even bother saying Distant Coder's name I wonder why...
What’s the Lore?
@@Mayurix beef in the past between the 2
@@Custarddolphin what happened between them?
Wah
100 % it can atach
Nesh is hi
Ultimate pots
😂
Yooo who is Champion Duelist lmao trash
1st 🐍
It’s me champion Duelist , I was toxic in this game ngl 🤣🤣🤣
If you really are the dude, you suck big time.
Lmao I read this as db grinder said
“This guy is so bad”
Don’t be in anymore replays plz you are bad
LAMOOOO bro you don’t even know how eclipse works you ARE AN AI
Champion Duelist? More like Champion Bot
@@looneyloonatic true
Lmao this video was hilarious on how Grinder has beef with champion for being a bozo 🤣🤣
Conversion, software version 7.0
Looking at DB through the eyes of a tire hub
Eating salt as a pastime activity
The toxicity of our game, our game
Come on Nesh you’re better than that