Thanks again for sharing another video. I really appreciate that you didn`t shy away from showing your second photo. However, you did manage to retrieve some detail in post. Despite what many will say we have all been there! Photography can at times be so frustrating but when it comes together the rewards are amazing.
Classic 4x5 three lens set. 90mm, 150mm, 300mm. Very good choices. Looks like that last image was underexposed by just over one f-stop in the foreground, the sky appears ok for exposure. As often with images like this, exposure becomes a trade-off of proper exposure for the sky or other areas in the image. With color transparency film it simply does not have the exposure latitude (dynamic range) to properly capture scenes like this with lots of contrast range unless helped in some way (graduated ND filter or similar). Using a spot meter to help gauge the contrast range of the scene can and does go a long ways to aiding what could be done to help fit the scene contrast range into what the film's contrast range can properly reproduce. Keep in mind, color transparency film has about two f-stops (max) of usable contrast range. What falls out of this limited contrast range cannot be properly recovered as the color and more will shift. This is one of the innate personalities of color transparency film that makes using it for scenes like this difficult to not suitable. Back in the controlled studio lighting view camera days, contrast control can be far more controlled due to highly controlled high power studio strobes (4,000watt/second and more was very common) with 1/10 f-stop power control increments and very accurate flash light meters. With B&W film, it is more than possible to compress the contrast range of this scene into a good to print negative. As always, this film stuff is a mixed set of trade-offs.
I die watching your videos. On how you setup and experiment on the photos you take. Even when some of the pictures don't turn out the way you want. It's a learning experience. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Nice lens, I have the 135/5.6 Nikkor W which is a nice sharp lens but sometimes I get some exposure fall off with a lot of front rise. The image circle is similar to the 150. 200mm vs. 210mm.
I have two Schneider- Linhof 135s. One is the older convertible one, the other more modern and fixed. I like the older one better. The best 135 to have is the older Fujinon W series which were single coated ( writting inside of the barrel ). For some reason the older Fujinons have huge coverage. I am pretty sure the older single coated 135 W design, just covers a 5X7 neg, 228mm @ F22. The later EBC coated ones and their more modern derivatives CM-W, have smaller coverage of 206mm and 214mm.
Good to know, I did notice the 210mm coverage but haven't tried to push the movements with it yet, I'm sure at some point I'll run into that. Thanks for the heads up!
Really nice detail in the first shot. I couldn't tell on my monitor about the second so much but the lens looks like a keeper to me and I appreciate you showing the bad with the good. I for one, would not have expected the light to change that much that quickly. Enjoyed it Chris.
Great shots. The 150 is most versatile lens. I have the 75, 90, 105, 120, 135, 150, 180, 210, 240 Apo-Ronar, and I have just ordered a Fujinon NW 250 F6.3 from Japan. I hope it is as described, as I have found the Japanese descriptions rather too flowery and optimistic compared to the UK. Yes I know. My name is Lensman57, and I am just a lens addict.
I'm getting there too, haha. I'm looking real hard at a few 240's right now, I'm thinking that'll be the next one I pick up. How do you like the 120? Seems that one is a bit less popular but sounds like a nice middle point between the 90 and 150
@@ChrisDarnell I love the 120. In the SW or super angulon design they are very bulky but mine are Symmar and the older Angulon designs that are very compact but not too much movement. It is worth finding the older Fujinon W 125, these have good coverage and are small and compact.
Chris, I have enjoyed viewing your videos through the good and the bad. You have acquired a nice selection of lenses for your 4x5 and like many viewers I'm looking forward to more of your videos. Always a pleasure guy. Stay safe and have a pleasant week ahead.
Hello mate, you may have forgotten to re-meter the foreground having waited for the right sky, but it'll be something you'll remember to do in the future. I'm sure everyone here, including me has f####d up at some point, but it's remembered for future shoot's. I have the same focal length lenses as you...and they just about cover all I need for our British landscape. Looking forward to your next one. Black and White maybe???
Thanks Kit, I really appreciate the encouragement! I definitely need to shoot more black and whites; seems it’s something I tend to forget I have on me and I’ll work on improving that as well.
I have the Schneider 150mm lens and it renders colour very differently compared to my Nikon lenses, and most times in a good way. Thank you for the video.
@@ChrisDarnell I noticed that when shooting 6x12 on my 4x5 camera. It was the same roll of film using different focal lengths for my compositions. I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for that. Do look out for Schneideritis, most times it has no effect on the image.
I have made mistakes myself but never when using my cameras. They are always learning and experiment lessons. Yeah, that's it learning lessons never mistakes. Except for leaving the shutter open when I removed the dark slide, that was a mistake
Nice work Chris. I like the second image a bit more I think. Looks like you're enjoying this new lens as well! Looking forward to see what you're able to capture with this one.
I keep thinking about the 150mm Nikkor. I really need something between my 90mm and 210. In fact where i shoot here at home. I am sure the 150m would become my most used focal length. I also really need a 300mm. But honestly I am tired of spending 💵
I hear you there.. I'm conflicted between spending more money on more focal lengths and just using my legs to move the camera, haha. That 300mm really is a treat though
@@ChrisDarnell Fall and Winters bad weather is just around the corner. So I will put up the 4x5 soon and shoot the Hasselblad. Over the winter I will add the 150 and 300 for next year. That will complete my 4x5 kit. :)
I know I've, in the past recommend a technical book on 45, but for pure inspiration can I mention John Sexton's 'Quiet Light' and 'Listen to the trees'. You'll spend an age looking at the plates within the pages of these books. He worked with Ansel Adams as his chief tech having been asked by the master himself to go work with him. What an opportunity. These books are now out of print, so quite expensive but we'll worth it.
New viewer, nice to see your content. I have a ToyoView 4x5 I bought for college in 1979 and would like to bring it forward to today. I like seeing you trying different lenses, as I only have two, and they were for "studio" classes, so I'm interested in what works well for landscape and mild-macro stuff. Thanks for the channel.
@@ChrisDarnell I'm going to cheat, I've ordered a Fotodiox back and I will used it for doing some stitched architectural ruins shots. I'm thinking about getting that pack you have too... I just checked the bellows and they are pristine, so I'm good to go.
Looks like you've built up a strong kit with the new lenses. While waiting for the smoke to clear you'll have to do a classic 'what's-in-my-bag' video. It's nasty and smoky down here in CC as well.
Thanks Frank! You're not kidding, this smoke is just terrible 😒 Driving through northern California and Nevada the other week was ridiculous; it was snowing ash north of Reno from that Dixie fire
Since buying the 150, do you find yourself using it more or less than the 180 you started with? I bought a 150 as my first lens because it was touted as a "normal"... after using it, it always felt too wide compared to my 50 or 80 for 135 or 6x6... turns out it's closer to a 40 equiv... and the 180 would be the closer match... but haven't been able to pull the trigger yet to compare... thoughts?
Honestly, it’s a great lens and I love how compact it is but I almost always choose my 180 over the 150. There’s been a couple cases where I really needed the 150, usually because I couldn’t back up any further and I needed the width, but I’ve noticed the 180 seems to match what I’m visualizing just a touch better
Hi Charly, I'm currently using an older 100mm square holder kit and various Lee Filters, as well as the 105mm Lee landscape circular polarizer. I've had this kit for a long time but to be honest; there's a lot of new stuff on the market and if I were to start over I might pick something totally different. A few brands out there have magnetic offerings and other cool features that make my system seem like a pain in the rear, haha.
@@ChrisDarnell Hi Chris, Thank you for your detailed message. I've also thought about a filter system from Lee, but so far the dealers haven't been able to help me because you can't find any information about the lens diameter for the analogue Zeiss lenses anywhere. Measuring the lens diameter yourself would be an option, but that's too imprecise for me. Do you know anything about this? Greetings from Munich, Charly
Hi Burnes, I came up with a way pack it flat into a camera bag with a 3d printed mini-rail that holds it together. I’ve since moved to a field camera though
Thanks for sharing your journey. You seem quite chill, which is key for large format.
Thanks Jim! Calm and relaxed is definitely my preferred style of photography, although things do get hectic at times, haha
I’ve discovered that clouds move at a speed directly proportional to the size of your camera.
At this point I'm pretty sure that pointing a camera at clouds scares them away as well, or that has been my experience anyway 😆
Thanks again for sharing another video. I really appreciate that you didn`t shy away from showing your second photo. However, you did manage to retrieve some detail in post. Despite what many will say we have all been there! Photography can at times be so frustrating but when it comes together the rewards are amazing.
Thanks Duncan!
Classic 4x5 three lens set. 90mm, 150mm, 300mm. Very good choices.
Looks like that last image was underexposed by just over one f-stop in the foreground, the sky appears ok for exposure. As often with images like this, exposure becomes a trade-off of proper exposure for the sky or other areas in the image. With color transparency film it simply does not have the exposure latitude (dynamic range) to properly capture scenes like this with lots of contrast range unless helped in some way (graduated ND filter or similar). Using a spot meter to help gauge the contrast range of the scene can and does go a long ways to aiding what could be done to help fit the scene contrast range into what the film's contrast range can properly reproduce. Keep in mind, color transparency film has about two f-stops (max) of usable contrast range. What falls out of this limited contrast range cannot be properly recovered as the color and more will shift. This is one of the innate personalities of color transparency film that makes using it for scenes like this difficult to not suitable. Back in the controlled studio lighting view camera days, contrast control can be far more controlled due to highly controlled high power studio strobes (4,000watt/second and more was very common) with 1/10 f-stop power control increments and very accurate flash light meters.
With B&W film, it is more than possible to compress the contrast range of this scene into a good to print negative. As always, this film stuff is a mixed set of trade-offs.
Thanks as always for the wisdom, definitely appreciated
I die watching your videos. On how you setup and experiment on the photos you take. Even when some of the pictures don't turn out the way you want. It's a learning experience. Thanks for sharing your journey.
same, guess I will buy toyo camera and following he's methods very helpful
Thank you both for watching!
I have a 150 Nikkor lens as well, and have realized I use it more often then my four other lenses.
Great video, a lot of good information.
Thanks Greg! I've also noticed I tend to use the middle focal lengths the most out of my kit
Nice lens, I have the 135/5.6 Nikkor W which is a nice sharp lens but sometimes I get some exposure fall off with a lot of front rise. The image circle is similar to the 150. 200mm vs. 210mm.
I have two Schneider- Linhof 135s. One is the older convertible one, the other more modern and fixed. I like the older one better. The best 135 to have is the older Fujinon W series which were single coated ( writting inside of the barrel ). For some reason the older Fujinons have huge coverage. I am pretty sure the older single coated 135 W design, just covers a 5X7 neg, 228mm @ F22. The later EBC coated ones and their more modern derivatives CM-W, have smaller coverage of 206mm and 214mm.
Good to know, I did notice the 210mm coverage but haven't tried to push the movements with it yet, I'm sure at some point I'll run into that. Thanks for the heads up!
At least the lens has worked out so far and that's the whole idea od this video 👍
Thanks Eltin!
Just come across you and I think you have impressed me in your detailing of the photos will subscribe and stick around for more
Really nice detail in the first shot. I couldn't tell on my monitor about the second so much but the lens looks like a keeper to me and I appreciate you showing the bad with the good. I for one, would not have expected the light to change that much that quickly. Enjoyed it Chris.
Thanks Philip!
Great shots. The 150 is most versatile lens. I have the 75, 90, 105, 120, 135, 150, 180, 210, 240 Apo-Ronar, and I have just ordered a Fujinon NW 250 F6.3 from Japan. I hope it is as described, as I have found the Japanese descriptions rather too flowery and optimistic compared to the UK. Yes I know. My name is Lensman57, and I am just a lens addict.
I'm getting there too, haha. I'm looking real hard at a few 240's right now, I'm thinking that'll be the next one I pick up. How do you like the 120? Seems that one is a bit less popular but sounds like a nice middle point between the 90 and 150
@@ChrisDarnell I love the 120. In the SW or super angulon design they are very bulky but mine are Symmar and the older Angulon designs that are very compact but not too much movement. It is worth finding the older Fujinon W 125, these have good coverage and are small and compact.
Chris, I have enjoyed viewing your videos through the good and the bad. You have acquired a nice selection of lenses for your 4x5 and like many viewers I'm looking forward to more of your videos. Always a pleasure guy. Stay safe and have a pleasant week ahead.
Thanks Wayne!
Embrace the blue sky. ;-)
Nice photos great lenses I use them on.
Thank you!
Hello mate, you may have forgotten to re-meter the foreground having waited for the right sky, but it'll be something you'll remember to do in the future. I'm sure everyone here, including me has f####d up at some point, but it's remembered for future shoot's. I have the same focal length lenses as you...and they just about cover all I need for our British landscape. Looking forward to your next one. Black and White maybe???
Thanks Kit, I really appreciate the encouragement! I definitely need to shoot more black and whites; seems it’s something I tend to forget I have on me and I’ll work on improving that as well.
I have the Schneider 150mm lens and it renders colour very differently compared to my Nikon lenses, and most times in a good way. Thank you for the video.
Interesting that it would be so noticeable.. I'd like to try the Schneiders at some point but haven't been able to line one up just yet
@@ChrisDarnell I noticed that when shooting 6x12 on my 4x5 camera. It was the same roll of film using different focal lengths for my compositions. I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for that. Do look out for Schneideritis, most times it has no effect on the image.
Thank you.
I have made mistakes myself but never when using my cameras. They are always learning and experiment lessons. Yeah, that's it learning lessons never mistakes. Except for leaving the shutter open when I removed the dark slide, that was a mistake
Nice work Chris. I like the second image a bit more I think. Looks like you're enjoying this new lens as well! Looking forward to see what you're able to capture with this one.
Thanks Brian!
I keep thinking about the 150mm Nikkor. I really need something between my 90mm and 210. In fact where i shoot here at home. I am sure the 150m would become my most used focal length. I also really need a 300mm. But honestly I am tired of spending 💵
I hear you there.. I'm conflicted between spending more money on more focal lengths and just using my legs to move the camera, haha. That 300mm really is a treat though
@@ChrisDarnell Fall and Winters bad weather is just around the corner. So I will put up the 4x5 soon and shoot the Hasselblad. Over the winter I will add the 150 and 300 for next year. That will complete my 4x5 kit. :)
I know I've, in the past recommend a technical book on 45, but for pure inspiration can I mention John Sexton's 'Quiet Light' and 'Listen to the trees'. You'll spend an age looking at the plates within the pages of these books. He worked with Ansel Adams as his chief tech having been asked by the master himself to go work with him. What an opportunity. These books are now out of print, so quite expensive but we'll worth it.
Thanks for the recommendation! I’ve recently been picking up quite a few books and I’ll look for those as well
New viewer, nice to see your content. I have a ToyoView 4x5 I bought for college in 1979 and would like to bring it forward to today. I like seeing you trying different lenses, as I only have two, and they were for "studio" classes, so I'm interested in what works well for landscape and mild-macro stuff. Thanks for the channel.
Thanks for watching Paul! Glad you enjoyed the videos; I’ll hopefully have a couple more lenses to try soon. Get that Toyo out and shooting!
@@ChrisDarnell I'm going to cheat, I've ordered a Fotodiox back and I will used it for doing some stitched architectural ruins shots. I'm thinking about getting that pack you have too... I just checked the bellows and they are pristine, so I'm good to go.
Looks like you've built up a strong kit with the new lenses. While waiting for the smoke to clear you'll have to do a classic 'what's-in-my-bag' video. It's nasty and smoky down here in CC as well.
Thanks Frank! You're not kidding, this smoke is just terrible 😒 Driving through northern California and Nevada the other week was ridiculous; it was snowing ash north of Reno from that Dixie fire
Since buying the 150, do you find yourself using it more or less than the 180 you started with? I bought a 150 as my first lens because it was touted as a "normal"... after using it, it always felt too wide compared to my 50 or 80 for 135 or 6x6... turns out it's closer to a 40 equiv... and the 180 would be the closer match... but haven't been able to pull the trigger yet to compare... thoughts?
Honestly, it’s a great lens and I love how compact it is but I almost always choose my 180 over the 150. There’s been a couple cases where I really needed the 150, usually because I couldn’t back up any further and I needed the width, but I’ve noticed the 180 seems to match what I’m visualizing just a touch better
@@ChrisDarnell that’s kinda what I was expecting… good to know, thanks for the perspective
For my analogue Hasselblad (501CM) I am looking for filters for my Zeiss lenses. Which filter system do you use?
Hi Charly, I'm currently using an older 100mm square holder kit and various Lee Filters, as well as the 105mm Lee landscape circular polarizer. I've had this kit for a long time but to be honest; there's a lot of new stuff on the market and if I were to start over I might pick something totally different. A few brands out there have magnetic offerings and other cool features that make my system seem like a pain in the rear, haha.
@@ChrisDarnell
Hi Chris,
Thank you for your detailed message. I've also thought about a filter system from Lee, but so far the dealers haven't been able to help me because you can't find any information about the lens diameter for the analogue Zeiss lenses anywhere. Measuring the lens diameter yourself would be an option, but that's too imprecise for me. Do you know anything about this?
Greetings from Munich, Charly
That is not a field camera, How do you carry it?
Hi Burnes, I came up with a way pack it flat into a camera bag with a 3d printed mini-rail that holds it together. I’ve since moved to a field camera though