Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 vs Snapdragon 8 Gen 3
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- The Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is not just a binned or cut-down version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, it is a unique flagship processor in its own right. Curated from the key features of other series 8 processors, it is a premium mobile platform, but aimed just slightly lower than the flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3.
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Errata : The X4 core in the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is clocked at 3.0Ghz, not 3.19GHZ as I said in the video. Sorry for the mistake 🙁
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Errata : The X4 core in the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is clocked at 3.0Ghz, not 3.19GHZ as I said in the video. Sorry for the mistake ☹
Thanks for correcting it
So it's fastest core is clocked the same as the 8 gen 3 slowest performance core.
@garyexplains will the 8s gen3 support 32bit apps? Natively?
Noticed it no worries, also aout the adreno, I left a comment below, as I wonder if I need to bother paying the same money I paid in 2022 for Edge 30 Pro with 8 gen 1 Adreno 730 +12 LPDDR5 and now should I go for Edge 50 Ultra SD8s Adreno 735+ 16LPDDR5x. Mine is perfect, even not running hot in the Moto as it did in other devices back in 2022, I just need a battery soon. Is it worth it, I like the brighter display and if it is not so power hungry, but paying even more than I did 20% almost for nearly the same device (I don't care about camera)? OR do you recommend, if I upgrade from what I have to aim for a SD8 Gen 3 device ,maybe I can reach Honor Magic6 Pro or the warmer Xiaomi 14 Ultra(it will be hard, but they are still slightly under S24 Ultra- it's out of my Budget)?
0:58 Nostalgia alert
Dude, that was what I was going to comment. He must have an old (dumb) flip phone near the computer. I haven't heard that in 10 years.
The naming scheme is misleading. Consumers may think they are getting an actual Gen 3 or something better. They should have called it a "Snapdragon 8 Gen 2s".
Yea its overall worse than 8g2.
It's an OVERCLOCKED SD 7TH series 3rd gen.
Based on it's architecture, similar to 7+ gen 3. Qualcomm is lying, telling people it's an 8th series SoC.
0:57 2G interference sounds
And at 4:04.
superbly explained, thank you !
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, very informative!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for an informative video.
Can we have a comparison of SD 8 Gen 2, 8s Gen 3 and 8 Gen 3 once this is available, please?
It is basically SD8G2 design but with the newer cores like X4 instead of X3, A720 instead of A710 and A715 and A520 instead of A520. Even the clock speeds are the same. Again 4nm like the Gen 2 so this chip must be using slightly lower power given that clock speeds are the same and the improvements in CPU performance as well as efficiency should be whatever ARM says their newer CPU core designs are.
with worse graphics
@@argo1288what do you mean exactly?
@@Monkey_D_Luffy56 Adreno 735 means a downgraded GPU of 740 in 8 Gen 2. Also inferior modem than Gen 2.
Qualcomm naming scheme is all over the place.
@@argo1288that's not the case here
Adreno 735 is literally just an upgraded version of Adreno 730 rather than a downgrade of Adreno 740
The efficiency is worse and it has lower ALU's
the architecture is the exact same as that of Adreno 730
How much L3 cache does the 8s gen 3 have?
pretty unintuive naming
Please do a per per watt comparison and battery efficiency 8 g3, 8s g3, 7+ g3, 8 g2
Adreno 735 inside the 8sGen 3 is an overclocked version of the Adreno 730 inside the Snapdragon 8+Gen1 it is not a downgrade of the adreno 740 in the Snapdragon 8Gen2
Power efficiency is way lower and peak performance is nowhere near Adreno 740
Not to mention the peak GPU frequently is very explosive at 1100 Mhz the max power draw is insane
What is release 17 and 1 update that X4 is even further underclocked to 3.0 GHz, not 3.19 Ghz as shown in video
Yes, sorry about that. I made a pinned comment and added an update to the description several days ago about the clock speed.
First around here, a big shout out From Angola 😎
My only query is at 4:27 in that the SD 8s 3 can only do 4K 60fps HDR when my Xperia 1 V can do 4k HDR120fps from all 3 cameras
Yes, the 8s Gen 3 is also inferior to the 8 Gen 2 in some ways.
@@GaryExplains oh wow, really 😳
Maybe 's' stand for slower cpu or slim features
I was genuinely excited to see the next Poco F6 using this chip but considering your review I'm not interested at all now. I wonder how many people are going to make the mistake thinking this is actually an 8 gen 3? Thanks for the information
The f6 launched at 350 and that's terrific value
*These + & S are getting confusing, hard to keep up!*
I wonder why this exists. Will no flagship OEM use it, as it is below the current SD8G3? It may be cheaper, and therefore, next year, when some OEMs usually use the SD8G3, this will replace that expensive chip, and the SD8G3 will be discontinued. I suppose time will tell...
Motorola 50 Ultra is using it. I dont think there will be a noticeable difference except in benchmarks and the most graphically intensive 3d games.
Yesss finally 😌‼️
SnapDragon 8S plus gen 3 ultra overclocked premium special titanium limited Pro Max
Edition....
😂😂
Do not give them hints 😂
Maybe they can name it as 8-Gen3 and 8+Gen3 for these two chips
Miss when naming make simple. SD805, SD808, 845, 865, 888
This SoC appears to be builtfor tablets, next year maybemore and better competition in tablet market.
Why do you think this is for tablets? Do you understand that, this is a weaker version of the SD8G3? If everything is the same, but the clock speed is lowered, than you basically just loosing performance (and gain a bit better thermal, but that is certanly not a big problem on the much bigher tablet body, just check the M1 in iPad, what is a doubled A14 from iPhone 12)
The Gen 2 has Adreno 740, so if this is between/ above Gen 2 and below Gen 3, why the hell it has an Adreno 735. Does the 5 at the end mean higher/newer gen than 0, so 735 is slightly better than 740? I wanted to replace my so beloved 2022 flagship Motorola Edge 30 Pro, because it was (still is) the perfect flagship, when I compare budget Galaxy S 22 Ultra competitors. It has the same SOC it runs a bit cooler ( as this is the reason I consider upgrading, Gen 1 is power hungry, but maybe all top dogs are) and it compromises in Camera, which is more than perfect for me and not IP68. This gave me a competitor that beat the S22 ultra in benchmarks with a lil bit and Moto had the 8 gen 1 running cold compared to competition. Now I wanted a 50 Pro, it came with SD 7 gen 3, perfect near flagship device for money, but I waited for edge 50 Ultra, si Iif I will upgrade from 8 gen 1/ 12RAM, it must be 8 gen 3/ 12 or 16 RAM 5x. Now I really wonder, as my battery has 700 cycles, I use it for notebook, do I replace the battery, or do I replace SD 8 gen 1 with SD 8S gen 3 and a little more RAM? What do you think people? I am trying to get a different budget competitor of S24 Ultra Xiaomi 14 Ultra or Honor magic 6 Pro, but the price is too high for me and is too close to the Galaxy? I might stick to a new battery:(
this should be called 8+ gen 2 not 8s gen 3
A product no one asked for 😒
This rather reminds me of the old Intel 80486SX. (which was immediately pronounced 486Sucks)
Nevertheless I am all for producing "cost reduced" derivatives to meet different market segments.
How this processor is comparable to dimensity 8300
This was supposed to be called 8+ Gen 2, company recently has some absurd and misleading names on their processors
The 8+ Gen 2 would use the same CPU cores (i.e. Cortex-X3) but at higher clock speeds. This uses the same CPU core designs as the Gen 3.
I call it fraudulent branding! Trying to scam consumers!
What was the point of making this chip when Qualcomm already does midrange and budget chip sets?
Its there for the high benchmark scores and low price. Cheap chinese phones can brag about it.
Well some people can afford to spend that little bit of money to upgrade their chip but not enough to upgrade it to a flagship. That's where the terms of the flagship killer comes in with this chip.
Qualcomms naming has gotten so terrible.
8Slow gen 3
am i the only one who thinks that SOC game might be mostly software?
smart advanced companies , but with dumb misleading namings
Nothing Phone 3 will probably have this SoC.
Yeah and Oneplus 13R also.
@@stancex404dude 13 r will come "next" year😂😂. This chip will be on devices "this" year.
More power efficient?
Because of the bit lower frequency, they can't use the same amount of power, so it's more efficient, but at the cost of some performance loss (for the same reason, the lowered clock speed use less power but also perform less)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st I don't game, so, I like that trade off
that's what i thought until i saw they might not be manufactured on the n4p node but an older one or smth
Can't wait to not use any of the LLM and ray tracing features. Most stupid and useless things to do on mobile devices. If only more silicon was used on things that actually matter, like cache and better CPU/GPU architecture.
8s Gen 3 should be name as 7 Gen 3 or 7 Gen 3+. The hardware difference is just too much.
There's already a 7 Gen 3 which is inferior to 7+ Gen 2. There's also a 7+ Gen 3 recently released which is speculated to be an underclocked 8s Gen 3.
Maybe this was supposed to be 8+ Gen 2
Different generation of CPU cores from gen 2.
Next. We will see a Snapdragon version of Pro, Max, Ultra 😅
Xiaomi released the Xiaomi Civi 4 pro with this SOC a few days ago.
Q: When is the hourglass is going to turn and people will start asking for less neural engine capabilities rather than more as the idiotic trend is going nowadays? 🤔
Isn't it weird that AI chips are being integrated in everything.
If i bring the matter of how expensive they are to make a moron will say: "oh but its costs declines' when being mass produced blah blah blah 🤡"
When I see someone happy with how AI is running on every device that we buy and power I know straight away that he's either knows so little, or knows a lot but complicit.
People will snap out of this trend sooner or later.
This should have been the next 7 series, not 8s. This is a bad marketing and naming scheme. I see a lawsuit in the near future over them saying their same same but different, but they are actually entirely different.
Xiaomi civi 4 pro is the first phone to use this chioset!
Qualcomm naming convention is getting worse day by day, they could easily go by 8Gen3 Lite but no, looks like they are gonna mess up with everyone's braincells.
Edit: The Adreno version for SD8sG3 is Adreno 735, which is slightly weaker version of SD8G2's Adreno 740. (Source: Gadget Versus)
Probaby not becuase most of the phones with it are really cheap plus its a really cheap chip thats supposed to be a flagship killer
So basically a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 in disguise 🥸
Humm so no 8+ gen 3 then. Okay 😒
Motorola can bring this processor in usa.
Likely S24fe will get this chip
Might get Exynos
FOR MIDRANGE PHONES, YES! WHY NOT 🤭❤️