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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2020
  • Using PC/104 components to build a mini 486 MSDOS gaming PC with NO EMULATION!
    Part 2 is here - • Mini DOS Gaming PC Par...
    Thanks to Foone for the soundcard idea and just generally being awesome : / foone
    MSDOS Setup Guide : www.legroom.net/howto/msdos
    PC104 soundcard : circuitmaker.com/Projects/Det... (although I wouldn't try building it yet, I'm going to do a second revision to fix some issues)
    ISA to PC104 adapter : circuitmaker.com/Projects/Det...
    Virgin Megastore Micro Machines 2 tracks : rasteri.com/virginmm2.zip - copy these into the "construc" folder in your MM2 directory, the tracks can then be found in the construction kit
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  • @NielsHeusinkveld
    @NielsHeusinkveld 3 роки тому +657

    And the winner of the most casual "So I designed and build a working SoundBlaster compatible soundcard'" award for 2020 is....

    • @LindenAshbyMK
      @LindenAshbyMK 3 роки тому +43

      just reverse engineer the shit out of this crystal chip, solder a bunch of connectors - EZ, right?

    • @twolechesconquick
      @twolechesconquick 3 роки тому +5

      bout that life

    • @CaptainDangeax
      @CaptainDangeax 3 роки тому +5

      @@LindenAshbyMK surface mount chips are not that easy to solder bro'

    • @vandit6354
      @vandit6354 3 роки тому +5

      Oh yeah, I design and build those in my sleep!

    • @mzflighter6905
      @mzflighter6905 3 роки тому +1

      @@CaptainDangeax How? xD You hotair the shit out of them

  • @markhimself
    @markhimself 3 роки тому +311

    You could easily sell these... I would buy one!

    • @szogun112
      @szogun112 3 роки тому +5

      me too !!!

    • @stonebleeds
      @stonebleeds 3 роки тому +4

    • @richardkind2794
      @richardkind2794 3 роки тому +5

      Same here. Let me know when you're building them for sale.

    • @markhimself
      @markhimself 3 роки тому +8

      Take my moneh! 💰

    •  3 роки тому +2

      Definitely would buy one (or more) too!

  • @jody5661
    @jody5661 3 роки тому +270

    I'm not going to lie, coming into this I figured it would be some idiot shoving a raspberry pie into a box and thinking it's hot shit. What I found was actually a really cool story and some awesome specialty and custom hardware. Really enjoyed it.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 3 роки тому +10

      I too but then I saw the magic words (?) pc104.
      I remember drooling over them 20 years ago and thinking about building the tiniest computer evar

  • @Joshikins360
    @Joshikins360 3 роки тому +75

    Finally someone who understands the importance of having a banana around for scale!

  • @CraftComputing
    @CraftComputing 3 роки тому +74

    Incredible work on this! I was aware of the PC/104 boards, but stopped looking because of the difficulty of getting sound. You may have just sold me on building my own.

    • @phate1489
      @phate1489 2 роки тому +1

      Came here for some 486 action... found craft computing

  • @ITVOIP
    @ITVOIP 3 роки тому +134

    Best DOSCEMBER video i've seen so far! I hope everyone appreciates the huge effort involved in all this. Must have taken you a long time to complete this.

    • @MadsonOnTheWeb
      @MadsonOnTheWeb 3 роки тому +2

      Fantastic! I couldn't agree more.

    • @crowsinthenose
      @crowsinthenose 3 роки тому +3

      Yes! This not only wins DOSCEMBER, but is one of THE best retrocomputing vids I think I ever seen. Simply awesome!

  • @munxcorp
    @munxcorp 3 роки тому +36

    11:27 Build engine needs a FPU to render sloped surfaces, so Duke3d runs slow on this SX processor without one.

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 3 роки тому +3

      I seen several dx 486 industrial boards back in the day.. so they should be avalible. A 300Mhz Dx 486 should have excelent performance.

  • @RetroSpector78
    @RetroSpector78 3 роки тому +21

    Just hitting pause here after you created a custom sound card pcb. Wanted to say I am really enjoying this video so far !! Wow ....

  • @winMANhun
    @winMANhun 3 роки тому +25

    This is literally one of the coolest things I’ve seen in IT.

  • @JimLeonard
    @JimLeonard 3 роки тому +15

    This was crazy comprehensive; I had no idea these were still available. Your level of dedication getting a sound device onto these is really admirable. Really nice work.

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 3 роки тому

      Those industrial boards was produced far into the 00tys

  • @blabby102
    @blabby102 3 роки тому

    Much respect. You just casually design your own Soundblaster card rather than just somehow adapt an existing card.

  • @adamengelhart5159
    @adamengelhart5159 3 роки тому +13

    @6:48: I think the name "Wee86" is *great.* Also, UA-cam's automatic captions spell the name "wii eight six," which is kinda hilarious.
    Very cool project! Just subscribed.

  • @Kenny-bw2cz
    @Kenny-bw2cz 3 роки тому +2

    You rushed through this build as if it was easy-peasy. This is way beyond the normal geekiness..... Wow I'm impressed!

  • @DarylCook63
    @DarylCook63 3 роки тому

    So the difference between men and boys are the price (and size) of our toys...except for the brilliant engineers who prefer a different tack. What a truly brilliant project and video! Kudos, mate!

  • @vlaktorbb
    @vlaktorbb 3 роки тому +35

    selling these soundcard board wouldn't be a bad idea at all :-)

    • @TheRasteri
      @TheRasteri  3 роки тому +15

      Unfortunately I don't really have the analog skill neccessary to design one good enough to sell, but I'd absolutely encourage others to do so

  • @mrsadrobot
    @mrsadrobot 3 роки тому

    I had an industrial mini 486 a lot like this a few years ago and happily played DOS games for a few days. But, because it didn't have a sound card option it ended up shelved.
    What I didn't do is design and build a sound card module for the thing, that's next level DOS dedication!

  • @krank23
    @krank23 3 роки тому +16

    I'd definitely buy one of these, if available. Perhaps do a kickstarter? I'd back it in a second.

  • @9wattcat
    @9wattcat 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for making this video. I've been in the same mini 486 rabbit hole for quite some time.

  • @adamsfusion
    @adamsfusion 3 роки тому +6

    This was my favorite DOSCember video. That was a super neat idea.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 3 роки тому +6

    This editing was really tight, your methodology really well thought out, your build satisfying! What a great thing to get recommended by the Google bot.

  • @NZ2Pepper
    @NZ2Pepper 3 роки тому +1

    This came in my recommended and I am glad it did.
    This is also the first time I have seen DOS on a network. I had read about it, but never seen it work. THANKS!

  • @mangothedutchie7462
    @mangothedutchie7462 3 роки тому +3

    And just like that. A new community of dos gamers was born. Really amazing job!

  • @johnshek8727
    @johnshek8727 3 роки тому

    This is so amazing, im blown away and so envious of people who cant find what theyre looking for and build it, you sir are amazing, and a great great engineer. I loved this so much.

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA 3 роки тому

    I love how casual you sound about this AMAZING mini retro gaming pc you invented. Awesome video and accomplishment.

  • @RomaniaOverpowered
    @RomaniaOverpowered 3 роки тому +51

    LGR or Druaga1 should get their hands on your videos. Or the 8bit guy. The way you made a mini 486 in 2020 is AMAZING.

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak 3 роки тому +6

      I could dig this, because I bought a mini Pentium similar to LGR's mini-486 a couple years ago. xD

    • @LGR
      @LGR 3 роки тому +57

      Not sure how to get my hands on a video exactly ;)
      But I have seen them. Love projects like this!

    • @TheRasteri
      @TheRasteri  3 роки тому +24

      @@LGR not gonna lie when I saw the notification for your recent single-board-computer video my heart skipped a beat, I thought you'd beat me to it :)

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Рік тому +1

      see them ever collab ??? too nerdy

  • @MartinPaoloni
    @MartinPaoloni 3 роки тому +4

    You won DOScember... This is unbelievably cool! And thanks for open sourcing your work!

  • @TastyBusiness
    @TastyBusiness 3 роки тому +3

    This is spectacularly implemented. Well done!

  • @cocusar
    @cocusar 3 роки тому +18

    wow, this is seriously awesome! I would like to see more about the building of that pc104 sound card! (or any other pc104 cards)

    • @TheRasteri
      @TheRasteri  3 роки тому +13

      I'll do a follow-up with more details, as I haven't really finished the PC104 card yet (if you look closely there's some components bodged onto it to make it work :) )

  • @justz00t48
    @justz00t48 Рік тому

    That tip to use PCBs for the front and back cover is pretty great. I never would've thought of that and it really opens up options for a wide range of projects.

  • @otg-on-tech-and-gear
    @otg-on-tech-and-gear 3 роки тому +3

    It just dazzles me to imagine how much work and time you spent on this video! Its dope!!!

  • @spladam3845
    @spladam3845 3 роки тому

    FANTASTIC build, what a brilliant project, your DIY approach to so much of it was very impressive, this got you an instant subscribe. Also, reaching out to Foone Turing was the smart call, I hope he's seen this build, he would love it.

  • @RobsonRoverRepair
    @RobsonRoverRepair 3 роки тому

    I'm absolutely in love with this. About to build a retro mini pc myself, but it will be emulation based as I've no where near the technical ability seen here. Fantastic work.

  • @zenitpro
    @zenitpro 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, I'm amazed! I wish I had all this type of skill to build things myself, I've always wanted solutions that do not exist - yet. Thanks for sharing.

  • @psychoticgiraffe
    @psychoticgiraffe 3 роки тому +89

    please sell these, find a way to make 1000 of them, they'll sell.

    • @_Digitalguy
      @_Digitalguy 3 роки тому +9

      I am sure many 40 year old people like me would pay up to a $1000 to buy something as cool as this

    • @psychoticgiraffe
      @psychoticgiraffe 3 роки тому +1

      @@_Digitalguy yes

    • @windwalkerrangerdm
      @windwalkerrangerdm 3 роки тому +5

      @@_Digitalguy Well, not 1.000 but I can safely say that I would cough up anything up to 500.

    • @enilenis
      @enilenis 3 роки тому +2

      I built a decked out 486 just a few years ago. Since the temptation is high to go for the best retro components available, the pricetag ended up being well over $1K. Cache chips, RAM, sound, wavetable, network, I/O, video, POD83 CPU, Gotek Floppy, flash IDE, case, PSU, cables. Hundred dollars here, hundred there. Eventually it's ends up costing a fortune. But that's kind of the whole point of irrational nostalgia. To build things that could only be dreamt of back in the day.

    • @jolex_nerd8132
      @jolex_nerd8132 3 роки тому

      finaly someone that thinks like me...

  • @TheFalschspieler
    @TheFalschspieler 3 роки тому

    I just have to say I really like this guy's voice and how he explains. So casual, humorous... Subbed! Thank you UA-cam for this recommendation.

  • @HrLBolle
    @HrLBolle 3 роки тому

    I always find it great if UA-camrs are considerate and include metric measurements
    for us metric heads

  • @thesmokingcap
    @thesmokingcap 3 роки тому +1

    The amount of work that went into this! Amazing haha, so cool to see this unfold

  • @SomePotato
    @SomePotato 3 роки тому +3

    A PC104 soundcard? Sounds like a fun project to build in 2021! Great work!

  • @eotsdev
    @eotsdev 3 роки тому +13

    Duke3d uses floats on sloped floors, might be the reason for the dropped framerate.
    Nice build!

  • @davidinark
    @davidinark 3 роки тому +2

    Truly one if the coolest builds I’ve seen! I would buy one premade in a heartbeat as I do not possess the skills nor equipment to do all the soldering. Great video!

  • @TheBinaryAvenger
    @TheBinaryAvenger 3 роки тому

    Looking forward to a parts list and build guide. I think a lot of us retro computer enthusiasts would love to put one of these together especially considering it’s getting harder and more expensive to build an old legit 90s pc anymore. Also as great as vms and emulation is we love our bare metal! Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @connercole100
    @connercole100 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome video, glad to find one of these videos from a guy that sounds local !!

  • @mattscomp
    @mattscomp 3 роки тому

    Incredible. You made a DOS NUC! I wish I could just build a sound card.. I am in awe. So very well done!

  • @Damaniel3
    @Damaniel3 3 роки тому +1

    Now I have to go buy a PC/104 CPU board before the secret gets out. I've been wanting a small DOS compatible PC for a while (mainly as a way to test games I develop), and this seems like the easiest way to get what I want. Thanks for the excellent video!

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому

    Just for the network tutorial alone I have to give a big thanks. But the project itself is amazing. And I really love how dense the ports are on the finished system. There is a certain charme to machines that fully utilise the size they got available.

  • @JamonyorkeRecords
    @JamonyorkeRecords 3 роки тому

    Wow!! This video blows my mind!!!! What a great job you did!!

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd 3 роки тому +2

    ABSOLUTELY my kind of thing, LOve this stuff.

  • @ZeroWalker26
    @ZeroWalker26 3 роки тому

    Man that´s just brilliant and awesome little PC build.

  • @teslastellar
    @teslastellar 3 роки тому

    Great job making the sound card.

  • @funxiobolic
    @funxiobolic 3 роки тому

    Wow, amazing build, great job!

  • @DosGamerMan
    @DosGamerMan 3 роки тому

    Fantastic project. Great implementation!

  • @l3chevalier
    @l3chevalier 3 роки тому

    I was a developer in a embedded systems company that used PC104 boards to run a Speed Trap Camera system, I've worked on this project. Awesome to see it for real fun use! =D Nice video, congrats!!

  • @stephanevermette145
    @stephanevermette145 3 роки тому +1

    OK. You blew me away when you said you made your own PC/104 SB/Adlib card! WOW

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb 3 роки тому +1

    This is the PC MINI we deserve

  • @Whipster-Old
    @Whipster-Old 3 роки тому

    The name is absolutely perfect, you legend. Love it. My first PC was a Highscreen 486 SX from PC World in Northampton. It was DOA on Christmas Day, so when we returned it on boxing Day, my dad screamed at the manager and I played the devastated son. We got a free upgrade to a 486 DX, more RAM and an EA games collection. Badass.

  • @damjanmozetic
    @damjanmozetic 3 роки тому

    Inspiring build! Congrats!

  • @EmilianoFraga
    @EmilianoFraga 3 роки тому

    Amazing work, congratulations

  • @joefil1991
    @joefil1991 3 роки тому

    This is incredible. Once this gets completely fleshed out and perfected, I'm definitely interested in purchasing an assembled unit if the price is sensible.

  • @akhurash
    @akhurash 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome. Thank you for making this video!

  • @CommodoreGreg
    @CommodoreGreg 3 роки тому

    REALLY cool build sir!

  • @CTFC-GERMANY
    @CTFC-GERMANY 3 роки тому +1

    I am totally blown away. Thats great!!!!

  • @BadBunny
    @BadBunny 3 роки тому +1

    I think this is the most wonderful thing I have ever seen in the world of pc retro gaming!

  • @grimreboot
    @grimreboot 3 роки тому

    Excellent work sir!

  • @Vokabre
    @Vokabre 3 роки тому +2

    And here i thought that period computers by Unisys were small. Very impressed with the concept and the result!

  • @bartomatic
    @bartomatic 3 роки тому +3

    Here's some engagement man, another cracking upload.

  • @Destide
    @Destide 3 роки тому +23

    Who remembers their first 1gb drive? Seemed like an infinite amount of space back then.

    • @twolechesconquick
      @twolechesconquick 3 роки тому +2

      I was a tech at circuit city early 2000s and I remember this photographer/videographer came in and wanted somthing installed he had a terabyte and all of us gathered around in awe of his like 20 harddrives jammed into this massive custome case hahaha I remember thinking there is no way I could ever fill this even with all my games , back ups ,rips, etc haahahah now I install like 3 games in a terabyte hahaha

    • @sonkorinda7312
      @sonkorinda7312 3 роки тому

      I have a 42gb hard drive(win98 installed) and a pentium 3, some ram, (idk how much) culd it run win 10

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 2 роки тому

      And now 1TB drives are starting to feel small fast.
      Amusingly I still have a 900 megabyte iPod shuffle from ages ago though that still works, entirely eclipsed by my Fiio M9 with 500 gig SD but it's still cute

    • @NoMoreCandies
      @NoMoreCandies Рік тому +1

      haha mine was the cheapest possible : a 5.25" ( yes, 5.25" ) Quantum Bigfoot hdd . huge and slow but... 1gb!

    • @Colt45hatchback
      @Colt45hatchback Рік тому

      Yeah i thought all my christmas's came at once, was rummaging through a hard waste collection pile out front of a house when i was 9 or 10 and found a pair of western digital caviar 1gb drives in the pile, and amazingly a new in box quantum fireball 3.5gb drive. I was like "oh my god i can have all my games on the computer at once" turns out the wd drives were faulty hence thrown out, but one had jazz jackrabbit on it which i copied over to my old connor 512mb drive while it was still working (they worked fine for about 10 minutes runtime then seemed to start clicking and getting read errors) but then i put all the stuff onto the quantum drive and had the connor as the master with just windows 95 on it and a few small games. Was absolutely amazing to be able to not have to uninstall something in order to put another game on

  • @trocitosdefresa
    @trocitosdefresa 3 роки тому +1

    Damn... You deserve a lot more views, you are a quality youtuber. Amazing job!

  • @ben_jammin242
    @ben_jammin242 3 роки тому

    2:21 Liked. Subscribed. Excited!
    Dude, you're a beast of a man. Thanks for the content.

  • @vkuolema79
    @vkuolema79 3 роки тому +1

    What an excellent build!

  • @tab8k
    @tab8k 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing job dude!

  • @aravindvinayakan
    @aravindvinayakan 3 роки тому

    This is absolutely brilliant

  • @cosmicrdt
    @cosmicrdt 3 роки тому

    You have some great content I've definitely subscribed!
    I'm definitely interested in making one of these. Would love to see a follow up on the design of the soundcard, for example what issues you ran into reverse engineering etc.

  • @buda3d2007
    @buda3d2007 3 роки тому +2

    You're a beast with the reversed engineering and shrinking boards down, thats a sub and like from me, thats awesome!

  • @ThiagoPaes_mrprompt
    @ThiagoPaes_mrprompt 3 роки тому

    Awesome project!!!! Congrats.

  • @rkornilo
    @rkornilo 3 роки тому

    Great work! That was fun.

  • @rille47
    @rille47 3 роки тому +3

    I´m amazed, ata boy, phreakin´n fantastic good job Sir.

  • @Toreonify
    @Toreonify 3 роки тому +1

    Finally somebody that have time and passion to build a proper mini-PC! I am so tired of emulation boxes) They don't suck, but they lacking charm that building a PC or modifying a real game console gives you) Great stuff!

  • @beforth
    @beforth 3 роки тому

    Wow, that's some serious hackery. Great job!!!

  • @quantumfluctuations1
    @quantumfluctuations1 3 роки тому

    Great project man.

  • @gothfather8741
    @gothfather8741 Рік тому

    This is great! Excellent video !

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi Рік тому

    What a blast from the past! We used to run Win95 on our 486 machine and boot to DOS for gaming.

  • @benjaminvanderjagt
    @benjaminvanderjagt Рік тому +1

    OH MY GOSH! This is the greatest thing! I BEG YOU, make these and SELL them! Even just as a parts-kit, they would sell well, and as a completed set with FreeDOS you could make a bunch out of each one. Like many others, I have no love for the PlayStation 7 or the XBox-One-Zero-X-2.50. I *do* have love for an old PC. THIS would make me happy, and that matters!

  • @jimmydansbo7847
    @jimmydansbo7847 3 роки тому +24

    All I want for christmas is ... this :)

  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo 3 роки тому +1

    This is what I've been looking for - I tried to build a pentium 2 and it just wouldn't work and it was bulky. I think I found my next new project. Thanks really for finding this and detailing the process.

  • @felixokeefe
    @felixokeefe 3 роки тому

    This sir is nothing short of brilliant. Very well done indeed.
    It makes my frustrating and failed effort to get DOS games working nicely on a full size AMD K8 machine with a SB live card seem rather pointless.
    I'm looking for pc104 boards now instead.

  • @shkdzn
    @shkdzn 3 роки тому

    This is probably the greatest way to build a modern DOS pc.. Awesome.. I might have a few new demoscene demos I'd like to try on there..

  • @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
    @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 3 роки тому

    Wow... I was familiar with PC/104 but I had no idea they still made modern versions of 486SX!! How cool is that!

  • @deathstalker8884
    @deathstalker8884 3 роки тому +1

    That was an amazing job!!!

  • @lingux_yt
    @lingux_yt 3 роки тому

    that's one of the most amazing gadgets I've ever seen

  • @ms-dosman7722
    @ms-dosman7722 3 роки тому +17

    That's really cool! And the fact that you made the extra effort to build your own freaking soundcard makes it really really cool.
    Next to missing the fpu, do these boards come with any L2 cache?

  • @Baxy90
    @Baxy90 3 роки тому

    Your work is so cool. I would love to make a computer like this.

  • @Maldroth
    @Maldroth 3 роки тому +1

    Wow this is an amazing project. I think this and the ISA soundcard reviewed were among my favorites of #doscember

  • @malx1289
    @malx1289 3 роки тому

    Yaaaas where has this been all my life

  • @imccrae
    @imccrae 3 роки тому

    Awesome build !

  • @turusan02
    @turusan02 3 роки тому

    Amazing work!

  • @angieandretti
    @angieandretti 3 роки тому +1

    I love the Wee86, in design and the name too :) I think it's awesome that you designed a PC/104 soundcard from scratch too! I wonder how hard it would be to build an MCA SoundBlaster clone.

  • @Rouxenator
    @Rouxenator 3 роки тому

    Awesome video! I used a eBox-2300 (200mmx with sound) for the same purpose and it worked OK.

  • @0katmandude0
    @0katmandude0 3 роки тому

    beautiful! brings back so many memories. And I was thinking, yesteday, where did I put my soldering iron. :)

  • @joshpalmer9184
    @joshpalmer9184 3 роки тому

    Nice setup

  • @StevenS757
    @StevenS757 3 роки тому +8

    oh man, I really wish these were available for purchase.