This is what I love about this channel.. there are hundreds of channels that cover brand new equipment and there isn't anything wrong with that but it gets boring.. this channel always shows more unique equipment
When I see something old like this I immediately go into PA mode and he into it lol. Just because it's so old and something you don't see often. And I love talking about the innovations over time. Thanks!
@@PAmining same here! I'm lucky about a quartermile through the woods from my house is an old coal mine and there are several pieces of old equipment! An old Euclid haul truck, Hydra-Unit Excavator, old Fiat-Allis loader, 4 old Mack Dump Trucks...... and more.. I still enjoy checking them out whenever I want to get out of the house and go for a walk..
This brings back some memories from my childhood. My father was a heavy equipment mechanic and worked on these at Duval Copper mine (mineral park) in Mohave county Arizona. Some had the Detroit Diesel's and you could hear the difference from a long way away. The mine opened in 1963 and ran until @ 1976. He spent 13 years there before the price of Copper dropped to the point where the mine was no longer profitable.
I used to work in the WABCO Factory, building those and other Haulpak trucks! From 1978 to 1981. I used to put suspension and fuel tanks and radiators on the bare frames. Those were the days! ❤
PAmining as an Australian to who only has Access to 50 ton max excavators for Commercial and government work seeing the big boys in the mining sectors great to see
I worked at Island Creek Coal's Tenmile WV mine in the 1970's and into 1985. We had 6 or 8 of the earlier production 120C's, then a bit later they added 4 or 6 more of the later model 120c's. These had the nicer interior with a Camaro tilt and telescopic steering column! All were equipped with the Detroit Diesel V12 with two superchargers and 4 turbochargers. Rated power was 1200 HP. These were good trucks. Quite reliable, powerful, and easy to operate. I spent many months on them full time after a layoff of a portion of the workforce. Wabco sent us a 120C Haulpak somewhere around 1983 (?) that was mechanical drive. Equipped with a Cummins V12 ( not sure of the HP rating ). This truck was fast and burned less fuel. BUT...due to mechanical drive it wouldn't back up in poor conditions and would not go up hills loaded or empty that the electric drive trucks would. Just didn't have the same traction as the wheel motors allowed.
Interesting! the wabco/dresser/haulpak line are some of my personal favorite trucks. And yes, Wabco did build a mechanical drive version of this truck do to it's success called the 120CM (M for mechanical drive). It was introduced in 1978. I was going to talk about it in the video but, like many other details, it got cut for time constraints
@@PAmining When another mine shut down they shipped us several Unit Rig 120 ton trucks. These had the 3412 Caterpillar, electric drive. They were very underpowered. Would stall out backing up a fairly steep ramp to dump! They might have been ok, were they not running with the Wabco's! We had two Marion 201M's, and a 195B BE shovel loading these trucks. After the Tenmile job shut down, I was told the shovels and some of the trucks were disassembled and shipped to a mine in Alabama. Maybe someone knows where that would have been? I spent some time around Letourneau 190 ton trucks in the early 90's. That might be a good subject for a video. These were in Summersville, WV with High Power Energy. Not nearly as reliable as the Wabco or big Caterpillar trucks.
I steamed on alotta jobs in southern wv and eastern Ky dad retired from booth energy and worked many yrs around here…mcoy/elkhorn…b.w.mcdonald…consol..and Heard Island cr. many times…branham&baker mined behind the house with the wisedas Justin has a vid on…they were blue
I drove these trucks in the copper mines in Arizona . First at Pima mine and later at Duval , Tyrone NM, and Pinto Valley. We had a fleet of 90, 120, 150 and 170 ton trucks. Later as an electrician I worked on all these systems plus the GE statexc system on 190s. They were a good simple systems for their times. 70s and 80s. Later to replaced by bigger and more sophisticated systems in response to the entry of Caterpillar mechanical drives.
Really enjoyed the video/documentary. I've spent many years searching out and photographing the Big Iron in Pennsylvania. Not exactly sure where those 120Bs are located, but I did photograph a fleet in Jeddo many years ago. Looking forward to watching more of the videos on PAmining.
One of these, ex US Steel, is on public display at the Minnesota Museum of Mining in Chisholm MN. For contrast a 170 ton Wabco and a 240 ton Lectra Haul, both ex Hibbing Taconite, are on public display at the nearby Hull Rust Mineview in Hibbing MN. You can sit in the driver's seat of all of them. Back in the 70's each new generation of GE wheel motors was becoming less and less reliable leading Wabco to also offer this truck in mechanical drive for a while. Compared to the 34 ton Euclids these replaced around here these things are huge. Not so much today. These are so much bulkier than the competing 100 ton Lectra Hauls of the day.
Cool. I am familiar with the 170 on display. I never liked filming display machines unless they are really rare as I don't like the added stairways and stuff. The mechanical version of the 120C was the 120CM.
There’s also one of the 120 ton trucks on display in Hinton, AB on the west end of town. Used to operate it (and the 11 others) at Obed Mountain Coal from 1994-6. Ours may have been a later model since the fuel tank was on the driver side, not the passenger/right side as the B model shown here. It also had access to either side of the cab from the ladder. The radiator housing wasn’t as tall, and there seemed to be more space on the front walkway.
You did not tell us about the square or rectangular gauge below the tachometer with the numbers on it. Looks like they are 36-24-34. 😁 Well someone had to say it! Love your channel, please keep up the great work!
Me too. You ever run an electric truck, Scruff? Not I said the small crimson barnyard fowl. I cussed a 222 WABCO pan enough to make up for a bunch of those. Happy evening 2 U!
@@lewiemcneely9143 i was the manual labor that was in the way of the operators lol. Too dumb to sit in the seat and let the machine do all the work🤣🤣. Loved to work with my hands and met some very good operators in my life. You and the misses have a great day God Bless.
@@scruffy6151 My 1st was the old straight drive IH that came with the crusher and an 800 Ford that I'd been driving on the road. Then it was ex mixers with rock beds, Euc/Terex and the Cats. I don't think you were too dumb. Too impatient, maybe. I was too lazy and could always get a machine to do what was needed. I'd rather burn diesel than calories! And I took after the Sea Bee Uncle that could run anything. YOU have a FINE weekend and I'm always just an email away and GBWYou, Buddy!
Not sure if anyone is still using this version, but this style of diesel-electric is in use by Komatsu (operated the big boys in 2005, and a Wabco in 1994-6). I prefer the mechanical drive (engine/transmission/rear differential) in the 797 Caterpillar trucks I also operated in 2005.
This is what I love about this channel.. there are hundreds of channels that cover brand new equipment and there isn't anything wrong with that but it gets boring.. this channel always shows more unique equipment
When I see something old like this I immediately go into PA mode and he into it lol. Just because it's so old and something you don't see often. And I love talking about the innovations over time. Thanks!
@@PAmining same here! I'm lucky about a quartermile through the woods from my house is an old coal mine and there are several pieces of old equipment! An old Euclid haul truck, Hydra-Unit Excavator, old Fiat-Allis loader, 4 old Mack Dump Trucks...... and more.. I still enjoy checking them out whenever I want to get out of the house and go for a walk..
This brings back some memories from my childhood. My father was a heavy equipment mechanic and worked on these at Duval Copper mine (mineral park) in Mohave county Arizona. Some had the Detroit Diesel's and you could hear the difference from a long way away. The mine opened in 1963 and ran until @ 1976. He spent 13 years there before the price of Copper dropped to the point where the mine was no longer profitable.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
I used to work in the WABCO Factory, building those and other Haulpak trucks! From 1978 to 1981. I used to put suspension and fuel tanks and radiators on the bare frames.
Those were the days! ❤
That's awesome 😎
Great documentary, as always. Thank you!
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
As a massive earth moving fan your documentary’s are amazing thank you so much
Thank you! I enjoy making then as much as you guys enjoy watching them.
PAmining as an Australian to who only has Access to 50 ton max excavators for Commercial and government work seeing the big boys in the mining sectors great to see
Glad you enjoy it! That's the purpose of the videos
You have such passion for mining things!😎
I worked at Island Creek Coal's Tenmile WV mine in the 1970's and into 1985. We had 6 or 8 of the earlier production 120C's, then a bit later they added 4 or 6 more of the later model 120c's. These had the nicer interior with a Camaro tilt and telescopic steering column! All were equipped with the Detroit Diesel V12 with two superchargers and 4 turbochargers. Rated power was 1200 HP. These were good trucks. Quite reliable, powerful, and easy to operate. I spent many months on them full time after a layoff of a portion of the workforce. Wabco sent us a 120C Haulpak somewhere around 1983 (?) that was mechanical drive. Equipped with a Cummins V12 ( not sure of the HP rating ). This truck was fast and burned less fuel. BUT...due to mechanical drive it wouldn't back up in poor conditions and would not go up hills loaded or empty that the electric drive trucks would. Just didn't have the same traction as the wheel motors allowed.
Interesting! the wabco/dresser/haulpak line are some of my personal favorite trucks. And yes, Wabco did build a mechanical drive version of this truck do to it's success called the 120CM (M for mechanical drive). It was introduced in 1978. I was going to talk about it in the video but, like many other details, it got cut for time constraints
@@PAmining When another mine shut down they shipped us several Unit Rig 120 ton trucks. These had the 3412 Caterpillar, electric drive. They were very underpowered. Would stall out backing up a fairly steep ramp to dump! They might have been ok, were they not running with the Wabco's!
We had two Marion 201M's, and a 195B BE shovel loading these trucks. After the Tenmile job shut down, I was told the shovels and some of the trucks were disassembled and shipped to a mine in Alabama. Maybe someone knows where that would have been?
I spent some time around Letourneau 190 ton trucks in the early 90's. That might be a good subject for a video. These were in Summersville, WV with High Power Energy. Not nearly as reliable as the Wabco or big Caterpillar trucks.
I steamed on alotta jobs in southern wv and eastern Ky dad retired from booth energy and worked many yrs around here…mcoy/elkhorn…b.w.mcdonald…consol..and Heard Island cr. many times…branham&baker mined behind the house with the wisedas Justin has a vid on…they were blue
I drove these trucks in the copper mines in Arizona . First at Pima mine and later at
Duval , Tyrone NM, and Pinto Valley. We had a fleet of 90, 120, 150 and 170 ton trucks. Later as an electrician I worked on all these systems plus the GE statexc system on 190s. They were a good simple systems for their times. 70s and 80s. Later to replaced by bigger and more sophisticated systems in response to the entry of Caterpillar mechanical drives.
Such a great voice!
Excellent presentation!
I have learned so much from your channel. I had never heard of WABCO before this video. Thank you
Westinghouse Air Brake Company. They were a very diverse company.
Always love to hear that! That's the very purpose of my videos. Wabco technology lives on today in Komatsu trucks
PAmining, just what I was thinking when I went to Suncor and operated their big Komatsus.
I still prefer the Cat mechanical trucks, though.
Hey man , I never knew that .
Really enjoyed the video/documentary. I've spent many years searching out and photographing the Big Iron in Pennsylvania. Not exactly sure where those 120Bs are located, but I did photograph a fleet in Jeddo many years ago. Looking forward to watching more of the videos on PAmining.
Thnam you! and those are the same trucks lmao.
Excellent 👍👍👍
Impressive old technology
thanks for mining truck video clips i hope there will be more greetings from croatia.
Thank you and greetings from Pennsylvania!
Thanks, Pl and they favor a Euc to me. ut Euc and WABCO and Terex were all kin anyway. Thanks a bunch
Awesome mate! Thanks!
Your welcome!
56yrs old great shape
One of these, ex US Steel, is on public display at the Minnesota Museum of Mining in Chisholm MN. For contrast a 170 ton Wabco and a 240 ton Lectra Haul, both ex Hibbing Taconite, are on public display at the nearby Hull Rust Mineview in Hibbing MN. You can sit in the driver's seat of all of them.
Back in the 70's each new generation of GE wheel motors was becoming less and less reliable leading Wabco to also offer this truck in mechanical drive for a while.
Compared to the 34 ton Euclids these replaced around here these things are huge. Not so much today. These are so much bulkier than the competing 100 ton Lectra Hauls of the day.
Cool. I am familiar with the 170 on display. I never liked filming display machines unless they are really rare as I don't like the added stairways and stuff. The mechanical version of the 120C was the 120CM.
There’s also one of the 120 ton trucks on display in Hinton, AB on the west end of town.
Used to operate it (and the 11 others) at Obed Mountain Coal from 1994-6.
Ours may have been a later model since the fuel tank was on the driver side, not the passenger/right side as the B model shown here.
It also had access to either side of the cab from the ladder. The radiator housing wasn’t as tall, and there seemed to be more space on the front walkway.
Do you have any info or pictures of the Fairbanks Morse engine in the earlier trucks?
Unfortunately no! It was only used in the very early A models before the Detroit replaced it
Yeah! wonder if it was 2 Cycle and maybe even O.P but i'm guessing since it was V configuration.it probably wasn't O.P
top vid thank's for your work. mike from germany
Glad you enjoyed it mike, thanks!
Ummmm...you neglected to mention the calendar girls info...lol...nice video
LMAO, eye candy!
Gave me a good laugh lol
Pretty sure those are factory equipped.
I like the girl on the control panel! 😍😁
LMAOOO
Top notch video as usual keep them coming
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
A Westinghouse Truck with G.E. Drive ???
I look forward to your videos
Looks exactly like a Lectra Haul M120. I wonder what the differences were?
I grew up in Wilmerding Pennsylvania home of WABCO ..Westinghouse air brake company.
Where were these trucks made ?
Peoria IL.
Hello, I have enjoyed watching your videos. I was wondering if you are in need of equipment?
My Dad drove those Haulpaks & worked there.
Jedfonhiland coal co
Jeddo hiland
You did not tell us about the square or rectangular gauge below the tachometer with the numbers on it. Looks like they are 36-24-34. 😁 Well someone had to say it! Love your channel, please keep up the great work!
Haha, l always skip the hour meter. Half the time on this older iron they're never right. Thanks!
Do you know anything about the Wabco 3200B
I used to build them! I put suspensions and fuel tanks on the bare frames. From 1978 to 1981.
Is this the same Wabco that makes locomotive air brake systems?
Yes, Westinghouse Air and Brake
Hey I remember your old video about those! Nice to see they're still around!
Long time fan then! It's nice to redo the old with better quality :)
@@PAmining I've been watching your videos since the Miningpower days
It still amazes me that fans remember those days! Thanks!
My father has drived this truck when he was working in maricalum cooper mine in sipalay negros occidental
Can you find somewhere Dart 600 loader ? It would be intresting macine for make nice documentary. Hello from Finland and thanks for the great videos.
Absolutely, the 600C will be coming up in the future! Greetings from PA!
Nyc presentation....I m mining engineer...😀
Thank you.
Me too. You ever run an electric truck, Scruff? Not I said the small crimson barnyard fowl. I cussed a 222 WABCO pan enough to make up for a bunch of those. Happy evening 2 U!
@@lewiemcneely9143 never sat in the seat of any off road haul truck.
@@scruffy6151 Ah, led a sheltered life, did you??!!
@@lewiemcneely9143 i was the manual labor that was in the way of the operators lol. Too dumb to sit in the seat and let the machine do all the work🤣🤣.
Loved to work with my hands and met some very good operators in my life.
You and the misses have a great day God Bless.
@@scruffy6151 My 1st was the old straight drive IH that came with the crusher and an 800 Ford that I'd been driving on the road. Then it was ex mixers with rock beds, Euc/Terex and the Cats. I don't think you were too dumb. Too impatient, maybe. I was too lazy and could always get a machine to do what was needed. I'd rather burn diesel than calories! And I took after the Sea Bee Uncle that could run anything. YOU have a FINE weekend and I'm always just an email away and GBWYou, Buddy!
Are these trucks still in service? You forgot to mention what the woman on the calendar is for.....
Eye candy! And yes these trucks are still in service. Thanks!
Do you have a documentary on a clark Michigan 475
Yes I do, it will be coming up in the future! Thanks
@@PAmining can't wait
Many years inside them 12hrs at a time
are they still being used or have they been retired
Not sure if anyone is still using this version, but this style of diesel-electric is in use by Komatsu (operated the big boys in 2005, and a Wabco in 1994-6).
I prefer the mechanical drive (engine/transmission/rear differential) in the 797 Caterpillar trucks I also operated in 2005.
No these trucks are still operational. Thanks
They appear to be in very good shape for a 50 year old truck.
Have you heard yet about the belaz 75710's worst nightmare..... THE CAT 798 AC?
Yes but I'm not to familiar with the Russian trucks
Bro that girl on the panel lmao
Are they still in service and where are they
Bump Meadows he never reveals the site, LAME.
Jeddo hiland coal company, between Freeland and hazleton p.a.
wonder why they just didn't put a 16V-149 in it
Engine availably perhaps?
16V 149T's went in Wabco's 170 ton trucks.
Old faithful
Radio Voice !