😱 Are You Wavy, Curly, or Kinky? + The Real Tea On Silky Type 4 Hair!
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- I created this video because I get called curly a lot...like a lot. It took me a minute to realize I'm not curly im actually kinky and I see a lot of people fall into this question of whether they are wavy, curly, or kinky so I thought I would give a quick answer!
I forgot about wavy in the initial video! Wavy is a curl that doesn't spiral. It takes on the wave form like an actual ocean wave. You can have a mixture of everything so don't try and shove yourself into a category. I mainly did this video for companies to stop labeling the hair products under curly.
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*In this video I use the word coarse in the traditional sense dealing with roughness (I know you might not get it now but I will explain in further videos)....I accidentally left out WAVY in this video! DAG IT! Wavy hair is basically flat, with "c" or a wave like pattern. There are some people with jumbo waves or tiny waves. You can also have a mixture of waves and spirals, kinks and waves. There are no rules but IM TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING ME CURLY WHEN CLEARY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AND IM NOT EVEN CLOSE! This is why I like words like nappy, kinky, coarse, etc. However I must admit...I wish I would've packed this with a bit more information and photos (google failed me when I needed him most). I haven't filmed in so long I'm a bit rusty so comment underneath this post if I should just go ahead and redo this entire video! PLUS! if you understand what I'm talking about leave some links to some examples because google and Pinterest failed me when it came to the photos. oh...and im finally FIRSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Very, very well said. Some people may need photos to see the difference but I wouldn't say that you need to redo this video... I'm 3c 4a silky everywhere but the very front corners of my head are semi-silky.... I love watching your channel even though I don't have coarse hair you give a lot of great advice that I use.
Awesome vid, agree about the pics but i couldnt possibly ask you to redo it. Waayyy to much work
AWWW WELL THANKS FOR WATCHING!!! Google and Pinterest were really sucking that day. As many times as I’ve seen the particular photos I needed, they vanished the day I was editing this video 😑.
Yea I just couldn’t find the flipping photos any where ☹️.
Can you please do a video on how to get movement in natural hair? Thank you for helping me to better understand. Great video!
I wish they would change our hair type from "kinky" to "fluffy" like our hair be looking like clouds frfr 😂
Be like "I'm type 4 fluff out here ma'am" 👏🏾
I'm so glad you broke down this video, the ppl gotta know!
Yes I love the fluff 😹
Yeah that's a neat idea because when hair is moisturized properly, it's fluffy or at least that's how mine looks when the humidity gets into it there is no definition but it's just fluffy like cotton and soft.
You know, that's a GREAT IDEA! Sound way more appealing. We should make this happen. Especially since there's another meaning for kinky 👀
@@Chazzzisawesome yeah and for me, and it even the first thing ppl say when they see it. They're like wow it's so fluffy !
Afro Jazz omg I know! I call my hair fluffy idc lol
More Type 4 distinctions: I think type 4 hair comes in 3 different types: SILKY, COTTONY, and COARSE (brillo pad like).
1) Silky type 4 people have soft, shiny hair that can slick down, clump, and have a curl/coil or wave pattern (that is VISIBLE) and can be uniform. They can comb or brush their hair with ease. They CAN be type 4a 4b or 4c.
4c naturals in this category usually get mistaken (or badgered) for being 4a hair - b/c their hair is so shiny when they apply product or able to clump & coil. But they still have a tiny curl/coil (circumference) or wave pattern.
2) Cottony type 4’s have SOFT fluffy hair that can range from easy to comb to somewhat resistant. The hair appears dull or with a sheen even if moisturized. The hair is fragile, soft, but usually able to make an Afro (as it grows OUT/UPWARDS); and able to be manipulated.They do not have a uniform curl pattern or uniform clump/ but can get somewhat an appearance w/gel. For example, they can smooth their hair down w/gel and have some uniform waves appear- with a sheen (not shine). This must be your mixed/combo hair as you describe. Again, their hair is soft to the touch! Usually mid level shrinkage (50-70%), sometimes high shrinkage (70-90%). They can be 4a 4b or 4c.
3) Kinky-Coarse Type 4 hair is DULL (no shine), dry looking, wiry and brillo pad like. Again, no shine, no sheen - even when Moist! It feels hard or stiff to the touch. It CANNOT be slicked down (even with a jar of gel) and will appear thick even when it’s not. It shrinks A LOT! Extreme 75-95% shrinkage but can have mid level shrinkage also (50% +). Most forms of stretching cause it to break short (in spots) or thin out b/c it is so fragile. If you tried to slick or smooth it down, it fights (hard) to get back to its original state. It will appear thick (stand up) as you try to smooth it). It is not easy to create a round fluffy fro. And very resistant to comb/brushing/detangling. It doesn’t clump yet it also does not fluff easily (think of a skinny looking twist out). They are usually 4b or 4c. GlamFun on UA-cam appears to be an example of this type.
The kinky coarse type 4 hair, I believe, is the rarest of the type 4’s! That is my hair type. I call it brillo pad hair. It’s the kinkiest- usually shortest, most high breakage hair.
Most type 4 people have cottony or silky hair. All categories can have fine medium or thick strands; and various levels of shrinkage. The mid category - cottony is the most common. Again thanks for recognizing there is more to hair texture than just curl size & porosity!
I LOVE YOUR INFO!!!!
YES COME THROUGH!!!
Picture would be so much help 🙏🏾
But ok ... I like the break down but now let’s elevate the cottony now let’s make them feel fabulous. I’m not sure if we are elevating them ... like are we still sending a negative tone ? Just reflecting
Thank you sis, i definitely have cottony type 4 hair, i always say it looks like a cotton ball.
I love the passion and I agree 100%. So many of us type 4 coarse girls have tortured ourselves and our wallets trying to make our hair do things it just doesn’t want to do. This just results in constant setbacks and limit our hair’s progress. I truly believe more self acceptance and caring for our hair the way it truly wants will allow our hair to be at its full potential. Maybe we need to redifine what beautiful hair looks like and stop idolizing hair that doesnt look like our own. I don’t think you should redo the video. Maybe you could make a part 2 with more photos ❤️❤️
Ok a part 2, that definitely makes sense. I’m glad I didn’t delete them. Some video never even make it out of my video editor so I’ve been really skeptical of this one. I completely agree. There are not many type 4c coarse people so o see how we keep getting looked over but that doesn’t mean we don’t exist.
This is true. I don't stress about my hair but I know my coarse hair doesn't define. Instead of twists outs I do twists in. 😄
Agreed! For years Ive lived in a twist out just because most of the youtubers I've found that do "natural hair" don't have my exact texture.
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You can’t see me put I’m standing on a chair giving you a standing ovation!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I hate when they equate silky shiny with moisturized hair and if your hair doesn't shine it most not be mosturized. No, my hair is coarse and not silky but its plenty soft and mosturized.
Facts!!! I used to equate it to until I met some extremely coarse naturals who have no hint of shine and super soft hair.
Chazzzisawesome Sometimes the reason people don’t get much shine is because of the color of their hair. My hair is not coarse but it is reddish brown. It doesn’t get the kind of shine I have seen people with black hair easily get. A lot of my relatives dye their hair black for that reason.
Curly hair here. Your hair is beautiful! Yes silky hair looks so defined and amazing. But course kinky hair does look softer in my opinion, I find it much cuter.😂♥️
My hair doesn't shine because my strands are coarse. (Refering to the diameter of my strands causing less shine) but my curls can get defined very well. Eisha taylor on UA-cam has 3c/4a hair but her hair looks coarse because of the diameter of her strands so her hair isn't as shiny as the other 3c/4a fine stranded chicks Majority of the black population have fine strands (Refering to the diameter of your hair strands)
Highkey was waiting on a picture of your brother's silky Type 4 hair
I was thinking about it but he keeps his hair braided. He also can’t take a decent selfie to save his life. I think I might just have him come onto my channel.
@@Chazzzisawesome That'd be great!😊
Lol can’t no body kink like us!😂
TRYING TO TELL YA!!!
Thank you for saying this! I’ve been seeing a lot videos and people saying 4c can do anything all the other hair types can do, you just need to put in real effort. I mean it sounds nice and all but a little disingenuous and slightly insulting. Some people put in so much work and their hair won’t get that result and that’s ok. Hair doesn’t have to be defined to be beautiful and especially healthy cuz I see some people saying undefined hair is damaged or dry. That isn’t necessarily true it’s sad because it’ll confuse people and discourage them more than help them feel confident and knowledgeable with what they have.
RIGHT!!! Some people have more uniformed kinks, curls, etc. so to say your hair is damaged if you don’t....that’s wild playaaa. That’s why I try to call this info out for those who might fall into that.
Thank you. Im 13 and just had my 4c eyes opened😂
Edit: thanks for 100 likes😊
I’m so glad I could help!!! 😹
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You are saving yourself years of heartache by opening them 4C eyes now lol. Mine are now opening in my thirties 😫😫
Your hair doesn't look dry and crunchy... it's looks soft and alive 😊
Aww thank you but I take pride in my crunchy hair. 😹 however it is soft though. It’s legit like cotton.
Like when she said that I'm Like Queen where
That silky, semi silky & non silky information has me shook.. never knew this!
YESSSSSSSS!!!!
Thank you for this. This vid could be used as another testimonial as to why the 1 to 4 hair typing is SO VERY flawed. Too restrictive or fitting too many under the same umbrella. I like the alternative presented by UA-camr GreenBeauty better. It's all about learning your patterns, porosity, density, thickness, scalp health, etc throughout your head of hair. Doing that is a learning curve. I'm 2 years natural and still learning. They don't call it a journey for nothing. 😏
Right!!! Definitely drop her video in the comments to help some people out! Sounds like she put a lot of hard work into that!
@@Chazzzisawesome She defines TRUE hair typing in to 6 categories: Pattern, texture, density, thickness, sebum (scalp), and porosity. Emphasizing that those lumped into category 4 are often a combination of ALL these, making the category 4 too wide, too imperfect, and too restrictive.
Video 1 Curl pattern: ua-cam.com/video/U-DHBOKJfl0/v-deo.html
Video 2 Texture: ua-cam.com/video/9wZ03RLah6I/v-deo.html
Video 3 Density: ua-cam.com/video/CVpksnX-qTk/v-deo.html
Video 4 Thickness: ua-cam.com/video/-1oksRDKUlU/v-deo.html
Video 5 Sebum (scalp): ua-cam.com/video/_vb1nZbuQvY/v-deo.html
Video 6 Porosity: ua-cam.com/video/5U-_mhhN6vw/v-deo.html
High porosity: ua-cam.com/video/q1ObiDVFmpI/v-deo.html
Low porosity: ua-cam.com/video/-hJLlHs-LYA/v-deo.html
You said the word yourself; curve. The only hair that would fall under the porosity test would be dogs... Hair typing should be a bell-shaped scale
Wow, this is so true!! I’m so glad you are having a conversation about it. 🙏🏽There’s a huge difference in silky type 4a hair and coarse 4c and just putting type 4 hair gives a false sense of similarity. It continues to make those with naturally coarser hair feel inferior cause the ideal “look” can never be achieved whether it’s loose mixed curls or the silky tight coils :/
YESSS!!!!
"The Science of Black Hair" by Audrey Davis-Sivasothy breaks down hair texture as Thready, Wiry, Cottony, Spongy. Also curl pattern is either, L, O, I, S shapes
Oh shizz thank you for sharing I’m going to look into this!
I def need to check this out!
It's a great book. It helped me a lot when I first went natural
Oh I forgot Silky. So it's Wiry. Thready, Cottony, Spongy and Sily
And yes you can have a combination of 2. Like I'm mostly cotton some spongy. I'll add each description later
Yes! I love the LOIS typing system.
That curl typing system predates the more popular one made famous by Oprah’s former hairstylist.
In my opinion, it’s the most comprehensive system for typing & truly understanding your hair.
This was a great informative video too. I hope it goes viral so more people can understand & aid in the health of their hair
You're the realest natural hair UA-camr.
Awww thank you!!!
Type:
Fine, medium, course
Curl Pattern:
Straight, wavy, curly, coily, kinky
You can have course curly/juicy hair or fine kinky hair...
If you DO NOT have curls then NO product is about to create them.
It comes.
There is sooo much variation from head to head and even hair that APPEARS very similar can behave/react very differently.
Y'all have to get to know and appreciate your own hair and goodness sake STOP putting 1million products on your hair that don't even contain ingredients beneficial to hair.
Some of y'all don't have a dry scalp or even dry hair...your scalp/hair is confused because you're putting foolishness all up in it.🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
SimplyRickeeta "if you do not have curls then no product is about to create them" - EXACTLY. It gets annoying when I'm out and about and people ask me "what did you put in your hair to make it so curly?" Like uh.... this is my natural curl pattern. No matter how much leave in and gel you slap in your hair, your hair will curl the way it's designed to. And there's nothing wrong with that. All of our hair is different. Literally.
And don’t forget hair texture lol: spongy, cottony, silky (for 4 type hair)
I have the coarse curly hair.
Some quick UA-camr examples:
Silky 4a: Naptural85, eVaniwithaV, Halfrican Beaute, SistaWithRealHair (3c/4a), GlamTwinz (3c/4a)
Silky 4b/4c: NaturalTemi, Adanna Madueke, and any 4c person you have seen successfully do the wet look or slick back
Cottony 4a: Kimmaytube (cotton/silky combo), ULoveMegz (combo) and many others (most 4a seem to be silky or cotton/silky combo)
Cottony 4b/4c: You - Chazzzisawesome (combo)!, ChiziDuru, KandidKinks, and most of the youtube 4b/4c naturals
Coarse/Wiry 4b/4c: GlamFun (this is a rare hair type, especially on UA-cam!)
Also, some people are a combination of categories as you noted.
one of the twinz actually has 3b/3c i think its kelsey her curls are more loose than kendras
Ppl might hate me, but I've beeeen thinking that Chime was a cottony wavey type.... Like Cottony 2C (if 2C exists)... ☕.... On another note, if I could make something up, I'd say Viv (Viv's hair therapy? I forget) is like a kinky 1-type. It's bushy, has a coarse appearance, but doesn't really curl (& I don't mean clump) or shrink. Looks like a blowout... naturally! 🤷🏾♀️
Trinican Bee, it’s funny, I thought of adding Chime as a cottony 3c. I used to think she was 4b (and she self identified that way), but as she got more advanced w/her products some waves appeared. I’ll have to look at Viv - I think she’s 3c (semi-cottony?)
Nikki Bruner is what for you ? She has 3c/4a hair but i don't know if they are cottony or coarse
Virtuenow I need to follow her then because I thought I had 4b to and some damaged hair because the front is wavy. But even when I big chopped the front is still wavy
I don’t feel like our hair looks dry and crunchy unless it is 😂
Nah 😹😹😹
YASSSSS!!! I've noticed that "Silky" type 4 hair. I've noticed that cuz yeah no...I am NOT anywhere near silky. This here is crunchy coarse 4C hair. Thank you for making me not feel CRaZy! @_@ I knew it wasn't the same hair! It's all a lie y'all. Damn Type 4 hair is so complicated.
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
YESSSS!!!
This is a good example of why we SHOULDN'T use the Andre Walker Hair Typing Chart. You've got a lovely head of hair Chazz.👌😍 9.10.19
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This video helped me realise that I have type 4 silky. I've been seeing a lot of type 4 coarse hair on UA-cam, because all my siblings have the latter and so assumed I had the same thing. And I've been trying to find what too look for and you just helped me put a label on it. I thought I was just looking at the wrong hair type hair videos but i knew I was type 4 but not exactly what . THANK YOU, OH MY DAYS THANK YOU x
This was a PSA to the internet world that y’all got Auntie Chaz messed up with y’all false advertising
LOW KEY 😹😹😹
YAASS!!! lol
It looks coily when wet and kinks when it dries. My hair is confused. I really like your video. I have type 4 coarse hair. It makes sense. You're so awesome. I hope you and bear have a good day 🐻.
You can have a mixture of everything I mentioned and then some 😹 not uncommon in the least bit.
Aww thanks Chazzz
The Science of Black Hair" by Audrey Davis-Sivasothy breaks down hair texture as Thready, Wiry, Cottony, Spongy. Also curl pattern is either, L, O, I, S shapes
LeShea White same with me.
Girl, I'm telling you, young and old need to hear this type of encouraging truth more than we even know. I don't know how natural hair movement has turned into everybody needs popping curls movement. I feel like sometimes people with coarse hair don't realize just how many options they have in regards to how they style their hair, from dreads (which my brother has and now its grown down to his butt-hello length, how are you today?) to afros to braiding (which can also be styled into even more styles).
We're surrounded by a lot of, "its good natural hair, if curls are everywhere", videos but that's not all there is to natural hair.
I think many of us just need to expose ourselves to more styles bc curls aren't everything, visit pinterest and see just how dope other forms of natural hair can be, look at art of people who highlight natural styles like Sara Golish, experiment with hair cuffs, clips, crowns, wires, threads, jewelry, scarves, wraps, etc. Take back the pride that was stripped from our parents and grandparents who were fired and banned for having certain natural styles. Natural hair isn't meant to be a burden and if our ancestors learned how to manage hair w/o all our modern amenities then we can definitely do it, too. As you said, we just need to learn what works for us and learn how to love us.
This comment is the one! Would love to have you on our iG live to discuss more about this much needed realization. I cannot tell me how many people DM our page a day on IG asking for products to get popping curls. You get down do it... The hair really needs help to stop shedding but the focus is so much on curls, your forgetting the goal of maintaining healthy hair
i’m a silky type 4 and my girlfriend is a coarse type 3. there really is a difference in the actual texture of your hair, even in looser curls
I’m trying to tell them 😹😹😹
I love that you explained this the way that you did!! I'm a kinky 4c and my friends don't understand my struggle!! If ONE MORE PERSON hits me with "my hair used to be like yours but I tamed it," I pinky promise I'm going to SCREAM!!! First of all, I grew to love my hair once we got on the same page in the same book. I don't want to change it.
Right?! If I try to tame my hair, my hair will humble me by LEAVING me. My hair said, "We either gonna do this together or not at all." I said 👌🏾 lol. It's not here for this training-it-to-be-someone-else business.
As naive as it sounds, when I was newly natural I thought all type 4s were the same. Now 14 years into the game, I’ve realized there are levels to this.... lol. I thought ppl were making a big deal out of detangling, but it turns out I’m a silky 4a. I’m going to stop telling ppl “all you have to do is....” because hair care is not one size fits all.
I feel like this video was really helpful because as a 4c natural I was seeing a lot of Brazilian 4c naturals w silkier hair textures doing things I couldn't even dream of w perfect tiny ringlets results 😵 I feel like understanding this stuff helps a lot
Yesss!!!! Let me finish explaining though! I have to do part 2!
@@Chazzzisawesome yes please! 😭😭 would love to see it
There are styles for us Hun. ☺️ Puffs, Buns, Twists ins, Braids ins, Flattwists, Bantu knots in. 🤗💛🖤
Who are those UA-camrs?
Can you please post a link to these silky 4c
I actually really needed to watch this. I have type 4 hair, but my hair doesn't seem to "act" like anybody else's hair with "type 4 hair". For instance, I have 4A hair, but it's actually really fine. My mom basically has the same hair as me but it's darker and WAY thicker. So twist outs on her come out amazing. On me, it looks weird because it's like I need more hair xD. On the other end, I'm just realizing that my hair is "silky". I could never understand why my hair seems to be "silky-ish", but still not act like type 3 hair for example. It's like I started watching people who tag their videos with "type 4" AND "type 3" and none of them seemed to fully represent or address all of my problems lol
I agree with everything you’ve said in this video, and I’m glad we’re opening the discourse about making distinctions between hair types and hair textures through videos like these! I do think though that it is possible to have 3C hair and have coarse textured hair, as I have seen naturals who have loose hair but the texture may suggest otherwise. Loved the video 💕
Yesss!
I’ve seen it and an example of that I commonly see is in some mixed children who have 3c curls but their hair doesn’t get silky and always looks frizzy/coarse(which is perfectly fine).
When I was first trying to learn my hair I noticed that some 3c's had thicker roots, drier hair that looked dull, those were coarse 3c.
Some had more shine, more moisturized and bouncier hair than mine, those were silky 3c like sunkissedAlba.
I'm in the middle, fine/medium coarse.
I'm a silky type 4. I didn't even know it. Once I learned about deep conditioning and the LCO method. That's when I started to notice I have coils and not kinks. Very informative video. I didn't know there was a difference. And I became a product junkie trying to learn and figure out my hair.
Yes! 😹😹😹
I just wanted to thank you for doing this video. I loved that SOMEONE FINALLY ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE!! I hate when people act like every type 4 is THE SAME!!! It IS NOT!! I also hate the people who act like knowing AND understanding your CURL PATTERN is EQUALLY as valid and important as knowing your as well as porosity, density, etc. Just as you mentioned, if you don’t KNOW these things, you will waste money, break off your hair, get dandruff, buildup, low self esteem........because you have someone with 4a silky expectation and 4c coarse realities. Then they’re wondering why their hair doesn’t look like “Curly Kiesha” with the 4a who only needs water, curl milk and gel to get her curls poppin’.
I’m in a supposedly “positive and supportive natural hair group” where the admin treats hair typing like the plague. I understand it can be used negatively at times, but that can be true of just about anything where human beings are concerned. I find that more than anything, it’s extremely beneficial for understanding ones hair.. The same admin, after I posted a pic of me getting my hair pressed after a trim, referred to the pressing comb as a “tool for self hate”. 🤔 I won’t even go there.
I’d love to share your video in the group but she’d probably either erase it or wouldn’t approve it to begin with.
The Conversation must continue!! So, from the coils who are very underrepresented
THANK YOU
Thank you for this!!! I want you to know that you saved me from going back to a relaxer. I couldn’t understand why my hair wasn’t looking like the other UA-camrs. Then I saw an older video that you did about: leaving my TWA alone, accept it for what it is, don’t keep manipulating it with different styles, and just wait patiently until it grows out! ❤️❤️🙌🏾
YESSSS!! I’m glad I could help!!!
Me too I was getting ready to buy Texas cause my hair don't look like nothing.
Thank you for making this video because I've been having low self esteem about my hair because I thought I was doing everything wrong.❤
NO NOT AT ALL YOUR FINE! Kinky coarse hair is beautiful you just have to treat her how SHE needs to be treated.
I love that you truly embrace all that is YOUR hair! People will love to try to put your hair in the box THEY want it to be in. Set em straight sis!
I appreciate you so much for addressing the differences in hair texture. Some people swear that you can have the same hair as another but you don’t. Nobody has the same exact hair type. Also, I have noticed that my hair had changed over time in the pattern. I have a curl at the ends & coily roots lol.
Facts!!!!
Chazz, your hair is gorgeous. Is it wrong that I was waiting for an example of a silky "type 4"? 😂
RIGHT!!!! Sheesh I couldn’t find the photos I needed!!!! I’m thinking about tagging the videos I came across that went viral but I don’t want the creators to think I’m putting them on the spot or trying to be malicious. This is why I was thinking about refilming.
@@Chazzzisawesome I get it. Either way, this video was super informative, as always.
I am lewa and kaydee tv are the only ones I know with silky 4b/4c hair
@@Chazzzisawesome I am lewa and kaydee tv are example of silky/semi type 4b/c hair
I would consider mahoganycurls a silky 4a texture & naptural85 cottony
Girl you're doing God's work by clearing up these lies in the natural hair community 🙌🏾🙌🏾
😹😹😹 I’m trying!
She sure is!! Amen
I love all your videos. I use to look at people videos who had 4c type hair and I use to wonder how they hair so silky . I'm 4c and coarse hair I had to stop watching them. So now I only watch your videos.
Awww thank you and that is exactly why I made this video.
Thank you for making that clarification. You are one of the few true kinky, course hair texture UA-camrs that keep it honest. Our texture is beautiful we need to embrace it and keep it moisturized. These ladies out here saying they are 4C like girl stop it lol.
FINALLY! INFO THAT MAKES SENSE!!!! I didn't know why I could never find my hair on those charts - I have strands that resemble 3 category, but I'm sure is 4a. My hair is very fine, soft and silky but knew no such thing as natural curls until I stopped using harmful hair products. Relaxers, heat, AND chemicals had me TV thinking my hair was semi coarse and 4c in texture. 4C is beautiful when healthy and maintained, but my damaged hair was like damaged 4c hair that felt like straw. It took me over a year to figure out why my hair was jacked up. DIY SAVED MY HAIR! The new hair growing from my scalp is very silky. I call my hair kinky/curly because I can easily rock a fro, but then take water and oil and turn the fro into curls. Being dark brown, many didn't understand my hair and thought it must be relaxed in some way. YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON TO EXPLAIN MY HAIR ACCURATELY - 4 CATEGORY, BUT SILKY. ALSO MY HAIR IS COILED NOT ZIGZAG, WHICH IS WHY I COULD NEVER FIND MY HAIR TYPE IN CHARTS - Thank you Sista Girl! You have a new SUBSCRIBER! You bet, I wanna see what more you have to say.
THANKS A MILLION!🎀
Facts. This video should go viral.
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Agreed!!!!!
Preach Chazzz! You are one of the few natural hair UA-camrs I still watch because you keep it simple and honest. There's so much misinformation when it comes to natural hair. The worst thing for me is that so much of the misinformation comes from natural hair UA-camrs who have silkier hair but fail to be honest about the nature of their hair! Silky hair is beautiful but so is my coarse hair! These days, once I see that the UA-camr in a tutorial has silky hair, I click next immediately because I need tutorials that are actually applicable to my hair type. Your channel is amazing Chazzz; I'm so glad we have a UA-camr like you who is knowledgeable on coarse hair. It's rare. Lots of love from France xxx
YES very important distinction between silky 4 and coarse 4. Thanks for posting!
No problem!!!
"It's not a matter of 'scab hair'" THANK YOU for this! 🙏🏽😊
@TwinkleStar IKR? had people thinking their hair texture was wrong...smh
A silky 4c hair UA-camr is the chic natural. Her hair is so shiny, silky, and soft
I just posted an entire rant on Facebook about my hair..it’s not gonna be shiny, I have a million strands, I don’t have curls. I no longer am swindled by product and I’m not putting a chemical in it to make it change. I don’t care what videos are out here. I’m not falling for them. 👍🏽🙌🏽
Hey friend 👋🏽 I love you and your channel. You are MY UA-camr. You bring the truth about our hair. And you help us to accept the facts about 4c hair mixed textures and all. Thank you for being you ❤️❤️
Aww staawwwwppp your trying to make me cry and I don’t like it 😹 thank you so much for your nice comment!
Finally! Someone is talking about this... I've got hairs with the same curl pattern but the texture is completely different. They even grow at a different rate. I think I've even got different porosity in different parts too... 😩
breezafun Me and mine all day long!!! Best explanation I have heard!!! Seriously time to truly embrace what ever is growing from your scalp. Curls coils and kinks get to know yours find out your porosity learn how to read your labels then you can narrow your products down. Save some coins and use them to take your crown all around the world cuz sis we spend major $$$ chasing that silky curl that was never meant to be! Me.... saving $$ on BF products 🏃♀️ to book that ✈️ !
Girl, I feel you. I'm super multi-textured. Like, different curl/coil types, different sizes, different textures (silky, cottony, spongy, and a pinch wiry), different clumping tendencies, different strand thicknesses, different shrinkage...and I too think they have different growth rates. It's crazy. I try to keep it in twists or buns (which I'm ok with). WNGs I enjoy sometimes too, tho, especially now that the longer sections can hide the spongy 4c bits that are by my ears. Disclaimer: not ashamed of the 4c, just like to get away with a uniform look vs. something mullet-inspired. For the record, my spongy 4c is the best "behaved" among my types.
Trinican Bee YEEEESSSSSS! I have silky and smooth then course and so not smooth! I have 5 distinctly different textures hi porosity but low porosity in my crown. Crown grows like a weed and tangles at the root ....what the! I have mastered the W&G... using clay treatments really helps get my entire front from hairline to the crown that is swavey to curl! Multiple stretching type techniques and product selection makes it all possible. Now that my hair is BSL it’s easier.But it was a challenge. My strands didn’t get the memo so initially my braid/twist outs look like a W&G cuz my strands separate so I have to twist/braid a couple of times to get that look. I really don’t have to separate it just untwist and within a few min it self separates my curls be like ME PHI ME😬 Initially I saw NO ONE with my hair type... times are changing. Oh least I forget my puff looks a bit weird cuz of the texture of the front it lays down instead of standing up and out but chile no one but me pays attention to all of that so I have learned to just accept it!
Chazzzzzz--always rockin' the KNOWLEDGE! Thank you so much for sharing this!
No problem!!!!
THANKYOU CHAZZ ONCE AGAIN FOR TAKING IT TO CHURCH!!! 4C-&-DAKINK IS REAL sometimes we be trying it tho
TRYING!!!!
As another distinction: silky type 4 people CAN SLICK THEIR HAIR DOWN - and it will be SHINY, glistening and waves popping. Even if their curl pattern is super tiny you can see a wave pattern or it even stretches/slicks to the point of looking straight (in a ponytail). NaturallyTemi has silky type 4 hair. She can slick her hair down and it’s so shiny and this smooth curl pattern appears.
Kinky-dry, dull (or coarse, as you call it) type 4 hair CAN NEVER be slicked down and appear shiny in it’s natural form. It will not have a uniform wave pattern either. No matter how much gel or product you use.
Thanks for this vid - it’s not a lot of ppl acknowledging its different textures within type 4 naturals!
I actually don’t watch naturallytemi but she has always looked to me like she has silky type 4. This is what I meant by me deleting the video and refilming. I completely forgot about bubsbee I wish I could swap out their photos. Google is trash for the options they gave me 😑 but that is a good indicator. When I sleep down my hair without product I looks completely different than my bro’s.
Chazzzisawesome cool. I’ve followed NaturallyTemi a long time. I’ll link some examples of the different types of type 4 (or name them) bc this subject has interested me a long time. I just never see anyone talking about it (outside the old hair forums). But I’m subscribed to someone from every category 👍🏾. This vid was a good intro to the topic - maybe you can do another more in depth/break it down/clarify even more. Thanks for good content 😽!
I realized that this is birds and the bees talk 😂
I hate to be a nerd but YOU ARE THE FIRST TO GET WHAT WE WERE DOING 😹😹😹
I genuinely love how informative, innovative and non-conforming your videos are 🙌
Aww thank you!!!
This might all sound crazy but I’m trying to make the videos and break them all down as best I can.
Chazzzisawesome it makes sense. And I think it's better that way because then it's not information overload for us
Naturally Temi is one of the most underrated Natural hair youtuber!!! I see you 👀
I just want mine to look like Chazz's 😔
Same
No...that is not the goal. Your hair is like 10x more fire than mine because it’s one of a kind. Your the only one with that fro so better learn how to work it.
Genetics is key!!! Thanks for keeping it real and for sharing!
No problem!!!
“Can’t nobody kink like us” lol
Hilarious.. Your hair is beauteous!✨
I’m really glad you addressed this.
Another level of info that makes so much sense!
Awww thank you!!!
You are my favorite when it comes to breaking down our natural hair😊
Your hair is looking good! Love your videos! 😊❤
Aww thank you so much!!! I’m not the only one, ya fro is looking good in that profile pic to 😹
Yup, I agree with everything you said, knowing your hair texture will help you manage your expectations...and you will be happier in the long run
Thank you! Porosity will always be way more important than any of this but just in case people were still wondering.
You are literally the only type 4 natural youtuber that is relatable... You keep it REAL girl. 💯
Aww thank you!
Great video. This is exactly the reason why l am not into stylers when it comes to purchasing products. I am more interested in getting a good cleaning that doesn't strip my natural oils from my scalp and hair.. Totally NOT into the aesthetics of definition.... Moisture, health and retention is my goal.
Facts!!!
Most Asian ppl have “coarse” hair. “Coarse” refers to hair strand width. Our hair can’t be silky because of our hair texture (which people confuse with hair type but they are two different things). That is why you can have spongy 4A hair and silky 4A like you basically said... Same type, different texture. It has nothing to do with coarseness of the hair... Coarse, medium and fine define the width of your hair strands. People should learn their hair texture for the sake of peace: Wiry, thready, cottony, spongy or silky. You can have more than one too.
The thing about that though is, if anyone looked to see how moths make silk, actual silk is coiled around each other and resembles our hair texture (coily) much more than straight hair, so I don't know why people keep calling straight hair silky when actual silk is coily. I feel that there are a lot of misconceptions about the terminologies of our hair which stem from media deception and generations of self-hate.
Asmah Fibyl they call it that because of what silk fabric feels like
@@sylmarie Silk feels soft and smooth. Coily hair can also feel soft and smooth. Straight hair can also feel rough and dry. This all has to do with moisture, amount of sebum on the hair, extent of damage and porosity levels. But many black women have internalised negative descriptors of their hair and continue to refer other races of hair with positive descriptors, as if their hair cannot be positive either. That is self-hate, and I do believe the popular culture of wigs and weaves using Asian hair has contributed to this misconception, since Asian hair sellers will not sell Asian hair that is rough and dry to customers, and black women are not in close proximity to Asian neighbourhoods to know what different textures of Asian hair actually feels like.
Asmah Fibyl I wasn’t trying to say that only straight hair could be silky. I have silky coily hair myself. I was just saying why the discription is what it is. Any hair type can be silky or coarse.
@@sylmarie And that was my point. Any hair can feel silky, but most people call straight hair silky and coily hair coarse, and THAT is the misconception, since hair types are not inherently linked to one type of texture. Ive seen many people with straight hair that is dry and straw-like in my class, but many naturals will call that silky even when it feels brittle, because they link texture to hair type. On the other hand, someone can have silky hair that is coily and feels soft and smooth, and many naturals would call that hair coarse. Thats the problem with the misconceptions.
I really related to this. I love watching halfricanbeaute’s youtube videos, even with me being a straight 4c girl. She always labels her videos as Type 4 and she has low porosity so I tried out a couple products that she swore by, hoping that maybe I’d see some improvement in my hair but that wasn’t the case. I’m still learning to love my hair, after being relaxed all my life and natural for 3 years, so it’s hard trying to convince myself that my hair type is just as beautiful as anyone else’s. I’m happy that I found you though. I’ve been searching high and low for a 4c natural hair influencer 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️
This video needs to be trending.. Its just that good.. Thank you.
Awww thank you!!!
One of the best Type 4C hair videos out here! You betta Preachhhh!!!
For me 4 hair is "curly" because it has the same shape as curly hair, a wave or a spiral (when defined) is just super super curly to the point it almost doesn't look curly, like 1 to 4, the categories go from straighter to curliest.
Im a graphic designer and I work with a couple natural hair care companies doing branding/packaging design and since working with them its been alot easier to treat my hair. In reading the info provided for the labels I learned that the whole 1-4 A, B & C thing is really useless and oversimplifies things. I have 4C hair but my hair is dense and medium porosity. Knowing my porosity and the density of my hair made a bigger difference in my natural hair care journey vs learning my curl pattern. Its more important to learn how to lock in moisture for 4C hair than anything.
Everytime you upload a new video its like your hair gets bigger and longer evey time, obviously, but still, it seems like your hair grew so fast- 😂
Nah I just don’t do many styling/manipulation videos so it just seems like I’m always popping out with growth.
Chazz your haaaaiiiirrrr 😍😍😍
Aww thank ya! That was like a week old braid out 😹
Yaaaass finally somebody talked about it and I’m glad it’s Chazz! I knew my hair was coarse because I was following Damian Walters and he was talking about the different curl patterns of African Americans “because that makes a difference in how to start beginner locs” and he mentioned that people with a tight curl pattern meaning us coarsy queens have no business buying curl defining creams. “What we need is some conditioner and some oil and sit the hell down somewhere, Because we have every curl in the world” Lol curl defining is someone going from straight to curly to define the curl. I definitely agree with you Chazz we need to stop watching other youtubers with silky 4 hair and think our coarse fluffy hair is going to make waves in the shower too because it ain’t. i tried it and my hair turned into an extra large louffa😂
An extra large loofa 😹😹😹
You have no idea how much I appreciate this video. ❤️I am currently product testing my own natural hair product formulations for natural hair care. Every time I watch natural hair vids on yt, I see that there is so much misconception about certain products giving you different curl patterns that you don’t naturally have. 🤦🏾♀️ This video was very much needed. You now have a new subscriber.
... God know I was looking for a slip product 😭. I didn’t run a comb thru this head for almost two months and fingering detangling was not gonna work for long lol
YESSSS!!! I’m trying to tell y’all!
Use tangle teezer 😄
teahgurl I love the Felecia leatherwood
That ending though 😂
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Am a Type 4 with semi silky hair but my hair ain't work like some of those UA-cam maybe if I could afford the product maybe it my hair would do the same.
Naaaahhh playaaaa. Keep in mind you might not have semi-silky or....if you do, maybe they don’t have semi-silky....MOST OF ALL... y’all might not have the same porosity. Porosity tells you whether a product will work or not...not whether you’re hair is silky or not.
The BEST hair video I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. For years I swore there was nothing I can do to get my hair like the people on UA-cam. I always searched 4c hair, and thought I was crazy because no matter what I did or use my hair was still always frizzy and limp. Now I’ve learned that BABY MY HAIR AIN’T GONE DO ALLLAT 🤣🥴
When I finger detangle, my hair is course. If I use a denman brush, it smoooooths my cuticle down to a silky finish.
Great video! My photo is about 5 years old but I'm natural now. I love watching natural hair videos . In the beginning,I was taking everything in and didn't even know my poroxity. I became somewhat of a product junkie but not for too long because that is a waste of money. I have so called 4b hair and it's hard to moisturize but as long as it's healthy and growing,I'm good..........It's funny that you made a video speaking on this because I was looking at another UA-camr earlier who has 4c and her hair was way more moisturized than mine has ever been,so now it makes sense why.Everyone hair is different and that is okay! This is also why I also use grease during my midweek rehydration.Like you stated,we all have different textures of hair and someone with a more wavier type may hate grease but my hair loves it. Basically "one" thing does not work for everyone and that is okay!
Bear is back! 🥰 Love your informative videos 💞
Awww thank you!!! I’ve been trying!
Omg i agree completely because yes i too fell down that belief that i was doing something wrong and your right nobody mentions there blessed with silk so that then creates discouragment , when in reality all it is is we in another category which is completely ok.
I laughed the entire time!!! 😂😂😂😂 But you are right sis!!!
The coarse business is real business!!!
Very true. I learned this after being a product junkie. Now, I just buy products that enhance what I already have. My hair is cottony, so I buy products that fit this hair type. The focus is moisture. I stopped using gels, and mainly use butters for my twists. Doing DIY using ayurvedic herbs like amla, moringa, and fenugreek seeds have worked well for me. Great video.
I have 4C coarse, low porosity hair and I've been STRUGGLING. My scalp will get dry but the length will be oily from the oils I use. I don't understand 😭
YET when its wet it does the coil thing a little. AND I gotta deal with single strand knots. I just want something that legitimately keeps my hair moisturized and not feeling all dry and flaky.
You might be using to much oil for your low porosity hair. You also might be using sealing oils for your low porosity hair so their is no possible way for your hair to get any moisture because it’s completely sealed off. If you must use oils then you should try light penetrating oils instead. If your looking for mousturizing products for low porosity try my ebooks at Chazzzisawesome.com. However for me to truly help I would need to know everything about your hair 😹
I'm so glad you made this
No problem!
Great, honest information- really explained a lot, as I am new to the natural journey. All these wash & go tutorials just leave me asking, "What's wrong w/ my hair?"
Now I've been enlightened!!! Thanks
Ok you just put it out there and kept it real. I was just telling my friend this the other day. FINALLY, I found someone who understands. I'm late on the video, but I appreciate everything you said! ❣️❣️
Thank you👏🏽👏🏽 everytime I wear my fro people are always like "it looks so dry.. you should moisturize it more" 🙄🙄😒😒 it is VERY moisturized.. it's just not shiny like in ALL the ads and ig influencers
I dont know...what i am STILL!! Like you did a superb job of taking the time to actually explain 'The Matter of the Tresses' more then any1 I've viewed. Im sure there are others with the info but i havent crossed paths with em.
YOUR VIDEO NEEDS TO GO VIRAL!! So other women will have a better understanding of silky vs coarse.
Im doing my hair now and its easy to detangle..just the ends take a few seconds to separate. My strands are a mix of long zig, spiral. Like it patterns similar to a roller coaster ride.
Im pass the TWA stage. My hair is pretty easy 2 manage and is in a more healthy state after i did the Big Chop a year ago.
She does get dry quick. So my biggest thing i guess is sealing moisture. My hair length is in the short phase, not a TWA, and it hasnt dropped down yet
Well done sis for this video!!!! Yaaaaaaas! I have been thinking this for ages. I am mainly coily and kinky coily hair but I'm type 4. I have silky type 4 hair and I watch all natural hair type vids but I do watch mainly type 4 silky youtubers because it matches me however, these are the same youtubers who will mainly put type 4 hair on their vids making others think it will work for all type 4 hair. Some parts of their hair may be 4b or 4c but the texture of the hair still matches the looser pattern hair silky texture. Thank you for this video.
YES!!! I’m so glad y’all are coming out of the wood works because I couldn’t find any pictures on the internet when I needed them of proof. Some people are acting like I’ve made this up. I have done so many hair consultations with people who have semi silky natural hair it’s ridiculous.
@@Chazzzisawesome trust me this video is perfect as it is but I wont say no to a part 2. If I was to do a type 4 natural hair video, i would be like those youtubers who know damn well they can can use products that a looser curl pattern youtuber can use due to having a more silkier texture. 10/10 for the video sis🙌🏾😍
I love this! I wondered why my hair still tends to look dry and fully understand it now that you've explained it. Thank you. I also appreciate the video where you say, "whatever your hair turns out to be that's the style you're gonna rock" (not those words exact but something like that). I LOVE my 4c hair and you've helped me through this journey 🤗
😂😂😂 you are my best friend, in my head. You always make my day.😂😂🖤
Aww I’m so glad I could BF!!!
I'm confused as to how you're using the term "coarse." Coarseness refers to the thickness or thinness of the hair strands regardless of how tight the curl pattern is. I am definitely type 4c/kinky, my hair shrinks to the max and loves to tangle, but my individual strands are super fine so I would not describe my hair as coarse nor is it silky. Asians are known for their silky hair, but their strands are some of the thickest of all hair types so their hair is also coarse. "Silkiness" is just what happens when light reflects off the hair strand. Hair that is looser curled or straighter will reflect more light and appear shinier and silkier. The more twists and turns in the hair strand, the less silky-- or duller-- it will appear.
If you google the definition of coarse it refers to something that is rough or loose in texture or grain. Thickness or how thin something is literally refers to how thick or thin a hair strand is. Hair density refers to how many hair strands you have on your head and porosity refers to how porous your hair strands are.
The opposite of coarse would be silky so there is no way for it to be a category for “thin vs thick” with silky being in the category of coarse.
That light thing is true in terms of whether something is lackluster and dull but you can still have type 3a with coarse hair. That’s why those little white kids were going viral for having “uncombable” hair syndrome because they have straight hair that is coarse instead of silky.
And to be honest I definitely get where your getting that information from, coarse hair strands have a different definition. However that definition doesn’t benefit anything, it makes natural hair lingo confusing so I use coarse for the original definition.
Chazzzisawesome The opposite of coarse is fine hair strands. And the opposite of kinky is silky texture.
Girllll preachhhhhh because new naturals are still testing the waters and is being mislead by these types of videos with type 4 naturals that has silky hair
Thanks for breaking this down. My hair is absolutely course & you would think it’s the products making their hair. I once assumes all 4c were dry & course.
NOPE NOT AT ALL!!!
You one of my favorite hair youtubers 💕💕
Awww thank you!
I love your transparency! You’ve helped me to understand my hair better video by video. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’m definitely glad I could help and thankful that you keep coming back! I really appreciate it!
Chazz, I enjoy your channel so much because you keep it real!! So many UA-camrs have 4B&4C sistas believing are hair are the same and it’s not. Thanks for bring great content to your channel!!