Vermona Kick Lancet Review : is it worth it ? (+ free kick samples)

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024

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  • @three-leggedcat6241
    @three-leggedcat6241 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks to your great demo, I found the deep kick sound I've been looking for for a long time. The Mbase11 demo is also helpful. Thank you !

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +2

      Glad it was helpful! Cheers !

  • @paulburkhart2619
    @paulburkhart2619 3 роки тому +2

    Cool video, thank you for the samples. Always need new kicks!

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому

      Thanks , haha yes always !

  • @russcontact
    @russcontact 6 місяців тому

    That high pitch range is great when you want to morph a kick into something else mid transition. Very tempted to pick one up
    Nice review, thank you!

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  6 місяців тому

      Yeah great input, didn't think about that use... Cheers!

  • @INFINITYREALM
    @INFINITYREALM 3 роки тому

    Thanks so much for the samples and rack. Sounds fantastic.

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому

      Glad you like them! Always a pleasure !

  • @boothbuster
    @boothbuster Рік тому

    @10:30 yeah that's the money kick right there! modern yet old school at the same time, lots of detail, even though overdriven... nice!!

  • @Buildingempires101
    @Buildingempires101 3 роки тому

    Awesome review dude. I used to own one if these and wasn’t impressed but I didn’t try and process it so heavily, really comes alive with that rack! Might even get another 😂
    Looking toward to your review of the Jomox!

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah that was holding me back from buying one to be honets, I was like, it's sounds goods, but its sound a bit old and obsolete for modern production...but hell yeah when you put effect it's like the machine is on dopamine !

    • @Buildingempires101
      @Buildingempires101 3 роки тому

      @@audioreakt it sounds mint, be nice layered :-)
      Have you had many good kicks out if the Arturia 2S? I’ve got one put away for my 40th but not allowed to open it for 2 weeks yet ha ha!

  • @ordinarypablo
    @ordinarypablo 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, I would love to see you make a video on the eowave quadrantid swarm

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому

      That's a nice piece of hardware but it's not on my shopping list, but who knows one day !

  • @tartari13
    @tartari13 3 роки тому +1

    First of all thank you for the tutorial, very thorough! Regarding "being expensive" it's worth mentioning that, since there are many people that don't quite get comfortable with "one trick pony" hardware, you can find good bargains in the pre-owned market. I bought my Vermona Kick pre-owned for $140 (incl. shipping and tax), I also use another "one trick pony" as my main bass source (Moog Minitaur) and am quite happy with both. Now would you mind sharing a list of processing effects you use? I downloaded your rack but I'm a ancient and am still using Ableton 9... 👴🏻. Thank you!

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому

      Yeah true , that must be a nice combo, the Vernon's plus minotaur! I think I showed the effect chain in the video, if no, send me an email at audioreakt(@)Gmail(.)com and I send you a screenshot of the chain this way you can replicate in live 9

    • @tartari13
      @tartari13 3 роки тому +1

      @@audioreakt Thank you! Just emailed you! Another thing: for build ups I sometimes use the Vermona Kick + Another kick, then add delay/reverb effect on the Vermona and start increasing the pitch/noise up.... it creates a nice and simple build up for techno loops....

  • @real.demesure
    @real.demesure 11 місяців тому

    I’ve just bought it. And honestly, I do think that ableton stock 909 kick is also really powerful and still has its place.
    I’ve just tried it on some of my tracks and here’s what I think of it :
    - It’s punchy (slightly more than ableton’s 909)
    - it has a beautiful round sub (not boom, SUB , really low stuff)
    - if you need precision, you have all you need to make the perfect kick
    BUT, if you are a beginner and think that this will solve all your problems, then I’ll advise you to limit yourself to ableton’s stock 909.
    Even though the Vermona is a great machine, you’ll still need to process it to make club music. Learn that first or you’ll just get lost in all these parameters.

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  11 місяців тому

      Yeah you made great point, especially since last major update, they sound really good. I like the Vermont because they sound very round, that's why I actually keep it, because no other machine/vst does that type of kick. But of course for modern track it needs a lot of process

    • @real.demesure
      @real.demesure 7 місяців тому

      @@audioreaktthat’s exactly what I’m thinking about it 3 months later !
      And the roundness is exactly what I loved.
      But when you need to spend a lot of time processing your kick drum every time, it starts to be annoying.
      Still, it’s always great to have it around, especially for techno.

  • @zuckerstange
    @zuckerstange 7 місяців тому

    Can you explain how you connected the Kick Lancet to your PC and how you linked it to Ableton?

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  7 місяців тому +1

      I use midi out of my soundcard into the Lancet Midi In. Then in ableton I used the External Instrument device to send midi to it (with a midi clip with a 4/4 pattern for the kick). Then take back the audio from the machine into my soundcard.

  • @stephenkyburz6529
    @stephenkyburz6529 3 роки тому

    Nice demo ! Thanks ! I was thinking about changing my MBase11 for this more hands on module. I'm convinced :P

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +2

      thanks, to be honest I like them both. I prefer the sound of the Mbase, but the lancet is way more fun !

    • @stephenkyburz6529
      @stephenkyburz6529 3 роки тому

      @@audioreakt I used my MBase with the Digitakt, I had some kinds of issues with the midi program. I used to have the full Vermona DRM MKIII but i had to sell it....I still miss these kicks though. How do you use your MBase ?

  • @strangerting7818
    @strangerting7818 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the demo! 🔥 How does this compare to the BD engine of the Analog Rytm then? And why do you put 2 limiters in your chain?

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      you're, good question I haven't really overprocess the kick of the rytm so far so hard to say, but they both sound great anyway. i don't know why I have two limiter haha just I tried and work so left it.

  • @TrillyTuesday
    @TrillyTuesday 8 місяців тому

    Great video, I'm convinced my life wont be complete till I have this on my desk

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  8 місяців тому

      haha it's a great machine indeed

  • @Ethan-qe7cr
    @Ethan-qe7cr 3 роки тому +2

    Don’t forget Bodzin still uses the stock 808 kick drum. He doesn’t even tune it to the key of the track (you can see it your self in an analyser)

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +3

      Well it's the stock 808 but there is a bit of very good processing too !

    • @Ethan-qe7cr
      @Ethan-qe7cr 3 роки тому

      @@audioreakt what processing would you say Bodzin has on his kick?

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      @@Ethan-qe7cr haha I would like to know too ! I am gonna answer you the basic answer everyone will tell you and that's not gonna help you neither but : EQ, saturation, compression. Then after how to set this is hard to say...sorry for not helping you haha

    • @Buildingempires101
      @Buildingempires101 3 роки тому +3

      @@audioreakt pretty sure Bodzin uses the trick where you make a copy of the kick and reduce the length then saturate loads to make an impact transient to add to the original (amongst other processing as well obv)

    • @DoctorSoctopus
      @DoctorSoctopus 3 роки тому +1

      @@Buildingempires101 that's a neat trick, thanks for the info

  • @TheGombo
    @TheGombo 3 роки тому

    Great Vid. I have the vermona Kick Lancet here with me how are you getting Ableton to trigger it. I m trying to use the Iconnect midi
    with no luck.
    Thanks

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks . Yeah by midi, my sound card have midi out , plug to the Vermona in. Then check the manual because I think there is just one note triggering the kick, like C1 or C0 or something else, I don't remember, but if you don't trig that exact note it doesn't work.

  • @hidden2584
    @hidden2584 3 роки тому

    I am definitely getting on when it's back in stock!

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      Cool , you won't regret it !

    • @hidden2584
      @hidden2584 3 роки тому

      ​@@audioreakt I found it and got next day delivery. My first kick sounded big! I totally agree with your comment about being able to push analog/hardware more than digital. That's my personal experience anyway.

  • @chrisdeezektor2565
    @chrisdeezektor2565 3 роки тому

    Question is.. compared to others like tr09 boutique, drumbrute, volca kick... really worth buying this? Is more expensive considerating its only a kick maker not a drummachine

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +3

      never had any of the machine you've mentioned, so I cannot really compared. It's true it does just kick but it does it well, and you have more control than other machine usually. Depend your need too, if you're dawless, I would recomend to get a drum machine first as this one just do kick...but if you already have a drum machine and look for new way to make kick then it's worth it...

    • @auralplex
      @auralplex Рік тому

      Definitely not worth it. It sounds like trash, honestly. I had one. I recorded some samples of it that I never use. It couldn't make a single decent kick.

  • @wirrwarr808
    @wirrwarr808 3 роки тому

    interessting, cant wait to see ur video about the jomox.

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks, next Wednesday !

    • @benjaminalfred4383
      @benjaminalfred4383 3 роки тому

      @@audioreakt I own a Jomox Alpha Base and have some opinions I have formed about the analog kick drum since owning / using it. I will keep these to myself till you make the video as I don't want to influence you, but, would love it if you could compare the actual transient "punch" of bass oscillator between the Vermona & Jomox without the noise or click. Very dependent on the ADSR of each and with the Jomox there are about 8 parameters influencing this (Pitch, Decay, EVAmt, Gate > PTAtk & PTDec, LFO & Compr) so might be a pain in the ass but I'd love to know which one hits better. Phaww boy, I am a nerd haha.
      Love your vids, keep em coming! ::)

    • @ross_ykm
      @ross_ykm 3 роки тому

      Yes, same. Wanna hear opinion on the Jomox and how this compares to the Vermona

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      @@benjaminalfred4383 well I already recorded the mbase video, so I have my opinion on it already. I didn't compare them one to one as for me they both sounds very good and there is not one sounding "better" than the other. But both have pro and cons, the vermona is more fun because of "one knob=one function" so more direct but more limited in term of sounds (less parameter to tweak). It's funny because The Mbase is the exact opposite : having one knob for all the parameter make it less fun and more "complicated" to use (less direct), but have a wider possibility in term of sounds. I like them both for their own reasons but if I had to choose one it will probably be the Mbase as pluging a midi controller on it will solve the "less direct" problem (which is what I did on my review too)

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      @@ross_ykm check my reply down below, as I didn't compared them but I explain why.

  • @marcelmachedanz1056
    @marcelmachedanz1056 3 роки тому +1

    Klasse das du eine Firma aus der ehemaligen DDR supportest, Klasse analoge Geräte die die bauen 🦾👍🙏

  • @juanporto9128
    @juanporto9128 3 роки тому

    sounds great, nice kick tutorial

  • @ryanthomas5139
    @ryanthomas5139 3 роки тому +1

    How much are these roughly ?

    • @gunsel123
      @gunsel123 3 роки тому

      250€ approx new

    • @ryanthomas5139
      @ryanthomas5139 3 роки тому +1

      @@gunsel123 not too bad then really

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah 240£ pounds in the UK which is a bit more expensive. Yeah to be honest it's expensive but the feeling and sound are top notch so...

    • @ryanthomas5139
      @ryanthomas5139 3 роки тому

      I think wehbba uses them I may be wrong

  • @FelipeGardelli
    @FelipeGardelli Рік тому

    Thanks so much man

  • @Andrew-cw5uo
    @Andrew-cw5uo 3 місяці тому

    The pitch on the Kick lancet has such a limited sweet spot. I wanted it to be able to go lower.

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 місяці тому +1

      yeah to me is too much high pitch note that are kind of useless for a kickdrum

  • @ElectronicJunglist
    @ElectronicJunglist 3 роки тому

    First! Honestly, you could do that in the box as well, don't you?

    • @ElectronicJunglist
      @ElectronicJunglist 3 роки тому +1

      Sorry, didn't finish the whole video...

    • @crunkdwscrew
      @crunkdwscrew 3 роки тому +6

      Technically you can do everything in the box. I think hardware is mostly for better workflow, creativity, and hands on experience rather than ‘programming music’ with a mouse and keyboard

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, you resume it perfectly. Better workflow and more fun. But I would say also for kickdrum than an analog kick drum will "better" react to effect than an in the box kick. This is all subjective obviously and you can make great kick in the box, but this kind of raw/punchy kick are easily made with a machine like this than with a software...

  • @kagisokgabo3601
    @kagisokgabo3601 Рік тому

    It's worth every penny!!!!!!

  • @蔡成钰
    @蔡成钰 3 роки тому

    how much

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      no idea depend where you live too

    • @蔡成钰
      @蔡成钰 3 роки тому

      @@audioreakt china hahahah :D

  • @VideoDaze
    @VideoDaze 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the samples 👍

  • @SergeyOsmolovskiy
    @SergeyOsmolovskiy 3 роки тому

    Kick 😱👍

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  3 роки тому +1

      ahah this ittle box make great kick indeed!

  • @a4kata655
    @a4kata655 Рік тому

    clearly a techno drum machine :)

  • @auralplex
    @auralplex Рік тому

    Bro I had this thing - this is the worst kick machine I have ever used. What a piece of garbage. Couldn't make one good kick. I just got an RD-8 and it's 1000x better in every way. I don't need 900 goofy kicks - I just need 1 solid kick. And to think the Kick lancet was like 2x as expensive as the RD-8....

    • @audioreakt
      @audioreakt  Рік тому +3

      I disagree, it's really good, a lot of punch, the drive is really good, you can have different waveforn, it's more versatile. But for sure if you just want a classic 808 , then better get the rd-8

    • @melomotioncomposing
      @melomotioncomposing 7 місяців тому

      That's my experience, too. Sounds very good and cuts through the mix. Love it.

    • @andreash3906
      @andreash3906 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂