I just graduated today and everyone is asking what I want as a gift and I'm too afraid to ask for skating stuff. graduation and a new video?! best day ever!
Why would you be afraid to ask for skating stuff dude? If you got haters, just put them aside. Only do what you truly love to do, nobody can stop you from chasing your passion :)
I've used a flat setup for around 4 months when I first started skating, then moved onto a full rocker when I wanted to learn slalom. I've had a full rocker for over a year now and I use it for slalom, roller hockey and the roller disco where I work. I work with a colleague who is a roller figure skater and one time at the disco we were bored and so dared each other to try out a pair of inlines we give out to customers. His disadvantage was that he now had to skate with inlines (as opposed to skates/quads he's used to), and mine was that I had a flat setup and a heel brake again. It also didn't help that the wheels weren't too smooth (we don't lubricate the bearings often so inexperienced customers won't shoot off with no control), so it was quite a workout to keep a steady speed. My colleague struggled with the soft boot (as opposed to his tough leather) and the extra lean, and when he tried going backwards he just fell back. To me the boot was a lot softer than what I'm used to, and the flat setup was ridiculous; no forward-back roll is incredibly obvious when it's not there. They also felt like they really stuck to the ground and were hard to control, and when I tried going backwards I realised why my colleague fell; the rear wheels just locked up on him so to make up for it I had to lean forward at a ridiculously sharp angle. Once I got back on my skates, it felt weird to have the rocker roll again, but after 2-3 laps I was back at it. Flat rocker may be good for beginners, but as soon as you want more control or manoeuvrability I highly recommend rocketing your setup.
Le meilleur tuto sur les différents montages de roues que j'ai pu voir jusque la ! Image super claires ! descriptions très simple et précise = compréhension maximal ! même quelqu'un qui ne sais pas c'est quoi des rollers aurait compris ! C'est claire que le montage "rockered" donne énormément de manœuvrabilité. Je l'avais fait grace à mes roues qui s'étaient usées de façon non uniforme (merci le T-stop, et pas changer mes roues assez régulièrement haha ) et on le sens au premier changement de direction, c'est le jour et la nuit de passer du flat au rockered ! Hâte de voir la suite du tuto ! J'adore la qualité de ton tutoriel ! Keep it up !
Great video Tiago! I really like how you make both flow skate videos but also tutorials and videos like this just explaining terms. It's a nice way to keep the viewer interested in your every video :) (Y)
I am by no means advanced. I just switched to rocker. First minute out, I knew I was never going to back to flat. It made it so much easier. My skate actually respond to my inputs now. I don’t notice any difference in power or speed so far. It was so easy and feels more natural immediately. After 10 minutes, I was able to to go up on my toes for the first time. I did a few bunny hops, and landed just fine.
I know this is 5 years late, but thanks for the advice. My 1992 Rollerblade Lightnings w/ Banana rocker setup just died and I'm researching new skates. I can't believe skates don't have that feature, and was considering just going with the flat setup. I'll find a rocker solution.
@@andrewwinger4970 I recently got the "FR Skates UFR 90 Intuition Skates" and like them a lot. They are rockered less than the Seba Igor, and I think I like it that way. The slightly larger 90mm size felt unexpectedly good for me, too!
Back in the day the skates had the ability to remove a piece in the frame flip it so the rear and front wheels would rocker up . I wish I could find a pair of older roller blades with the metal frame geared towards this rocker system rather than change wheels ..
lots of brands have these axels you can swap to rocker the wheels. seen Endless powerslide and seba have simalar.. im not an expert by any means but im sure there are axels you can buy and keep the 4 same wheels. much cheaper than new wheels or new frame. also just keep the front and back wheels on the front and back when you rotate wheels. they will wear down more giving you a natural rocker I have two old pairs with huge natural rockers
When I started to inline skate a few months ago, the flat setup really felt too stiff for my liking. Discovered the full rockered banana setup and really enjoyed it. I don't think I can ever go back. Though I'm interested in trying a tri state sometime. How different is the maneuverability between the two, and is a tri skate worth rockering or it shouldn't be done? btw you're videos really help me! Thanks. always look forward to your videos. : )
lol I was looking at new inliners with rockered mode, and looked up these videos , and realized thats what I need since Im a figure skater, and use my inliners for transportation but find it annoying that I cant do curved and turns like on ice skates. Then I realized that my inliners ( salomon TR9) has built in rockered mode, I just had to turn my bolts on the middle wheels. there's an arrow on them up/down. No shit those were the top model back in the day (1999 I believe I got them). went 15km on them today. feels much more like ice skated. they respond to my hips now. the control at high speeds is not an issue since Im used to that on ice skates. I figure it trains my ankles much better now.
Front rocker here (just one wheel), faster and less wobbly. The problem I have with full rocker is that it makes legs work so much more just to maintain balance, making me tire faster during regular skating and doesn't really add much benefit if I want to go mostly forwards.
clray123 I still didn't try the front rocker yet :) just added to my to-do list :) yes! that's true, at the beggining, my legs were always super tired because this setup makes you use more muscles/ or makes you use them in a different way; just to keep balance. after using this setup for 2 years, my legs got stronger, and they don't feel tired at all, even after skating 8- 10 hours with that configuration. I personnally find this setup more fun than the others because of everything I can do with it. but this is my personnal opinion :)
I went front rocker initially. Didn’t really notice much difference. The full rocker made a dif. I haven’t gotten any wobble. I’m not a speed skater, so I will probably stay below the speed that wobble occurs.
Original Rollerblades of the 90's had a simple method to get a rockered setup, a barely-rockered or non-rockered setup by adjusting the axle positions. It was brilliant. I think it was a HUGE mistake to move away from this system. I think it was a key part of why rollerblading has dropped in popularity.
It's still being done today, like with the Katana frames from Powerslide; both with 3 & 4 wheels. FR skates also do that, same with Flying Eagle. These frames have their advantage , and are also very annoying with these bolts . My main frames have this system, but I'm moving back to pre-rockered frames since I only skate rockered. ✌️much faster when it comes to rotating or changing wheels
Hey Tiago, how come you're mentioning 72 & 76 sizes, and not the more standardized 80s? Shouldn't matter if it's 76 - 80 - 80 - 76, right? And what about rocker frames, does it matter if you change the wheels or the frame?
.... I think I accidently got myself a rockered setup just by using up my wheels and trying to grind them back into usable shape x) Good to know, good to know.
I'm mainly an aggressive skater, but now that I'm in my mid 30's I picked up some Seba FR1s and I really love the cruising free skate. I'm not going to like though... I wanna skate those cones like you do. It just seems so nimble and ninja like. I have not rockered my setup yet, I'm probably going to do it w/ some 76mm wheels on the outside and 80mm on the inside. Looking forward to the instructional video!
I tried banana rocker and loved it, tight turns great , but at higher speed very unstable and tremendous wear on the middle wheels , you can't change them over or you lose the rocker ! after a few weeks all the wheels became the same diameter . Fabulous maneuvering , bad wear .
Might go for a harder compound for the middle wheels. Theoretically, you should have the most wear on your back 2 wheels, when rockered. Try rotating wheels every so often
Cool to learn i have rockered hi-lo inline skates, did not know there was a term/name for different size of wheels on a skate! I'm curious to see how my skating abilities are when having skates with a flat setup ;p
So is it better to get a rocker setup or can you just put smaller wheels in or do the axels need to be switched around... Seen some with different axle locations .... Or probably just comes down to preference?!
Rollerblade Maxxum 100 uses a 3X100 + 1X90 setup with the 2nd wheel being the 90. The frame is leveled though. So, all four wheels are on the ground. I think they just did this to keep the boot lower to the ground and the frame a bit shorter. Any advice as to how to go about rockering such a frame?
My skates have inserts in the wheel bolt hole that can rotate to adjust how high the wheels are in the frame. Not sure if this is normal. They are from the early 90's
There are a few models out there today with offset axle bolts, for adjustability. I would have bought one of those models if I would have known. I have a decent pair of skates now, so It not worth it to scrap these for another $300 pair, but I would have if I knew
Olá Tiago! I purchased a pair of rockered 243mm frames for an 80mm rockered setup but the shop called me and said that they no longer had the rockered frame in stock and will not be getting it any more. I already have my full set of 80mm wheels and really don't want to go through the hassle of sending 4 back and getting 4x76mm wheels to make a rockered set up with my flat frame. I was thinking that maybe I could skate around for a while with just my front and rear wheels in the frame for a while until they wear down to make them smaller (maybe help the wear along its way by doing some slides) and make the rockered set up I'd like. I have no other options for rockering my set up as I have only a pair of aggressive skates besides my one pair of powerslide imperials and it's my first experience with a rockered set up. What are your thoughts?
I love your videos ur my inspiration to skate when I'm older and now just watching ur videos wants me to go skate it would mean the world to me if u game me a shoutout
i have a question between the ilq 9 pro and the ilq classic plus. The pro are just as robust as the classic plus? When jumping and hard landings? i have read the ilq 9 pro are for racing and not so for urban/freestyle action, is this right? Do you know about it? si vous ne connaissez pas l'anglais ou non lu peut alors écrire quand même simplement vous ne savez pas. vous ne répondez pas, je n'aime pas, me regarder vos vidéos très heureux de
+Andreas Menge Hey Andreas, I have never tried the ILQ-9 Classic , but someone who prefers to use the classic version over the pro. he says the classic is tougher than the Pro version :)
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I just graduated today and everyone is asking what I want as a gift and I'm too afraid to ask for skating stuff. graduation and a new video?! best day ever!
+Jokerr Fox
Congratulations! :D
Don't be afraid to ask for skating stuff hehe 😉 !
glad I helped making you have a good day :D
Why would you be afraid to ask for skating stuff dude? If you got haters, just put them aside. Only do what you truly love to do, nobody can stop you from chasing your passion :)
Jokerr Fox do it if they say no go to goodwill or something and go from there
Angu Forges you can't find reliable skates most likely at goodwill, you need to buy from a skating shop
Dire Wolfy I'm looking
I've used a flat setup for around 4 months when I first started skating, then moved onto a full rocker when I wanted to learn slalom. I've had a full rocker for over a year now and I use it for slalom, roller hockey and the roller disco where I work. I work with a colleague who is a roller figure skater and one time at the disco we were bored and so dared each other to try out a pair of inlines we give out to customers. His disadvantage was that he now had to skate with inlines (as opposed to skates/quads he's used to), and mine was that I had a flat setup and a heel brake again. It also didn't help that the wheels weren't too smooth (we don't lubricate the bearings often so inexperienced customers won't shoot off with no control), so it was quite a workout to keep a steady speed. My colleague struggled with the soft boot (as opposed to his tough leather) and the extra lean, and when he tried going backwards he just fell back. To me the boot was a lot softer than what I'm used to, and the flat setup was ridiculous; no forward-back roll is incredibly obvious when it's not there. They also felt like they really stuck to the ground and were hard to control, and when I tried going backwards I realised why my colleague fell; the rear wheels just locked up on him so to make up for it I had to lean forward at a ridiculously sharp angle. Once I got back on my skates, it felt weird to have the rocker roll again, but after 2-3 laps I was back at it.
Flat rocker may be good for beginners, but as soon as you want more control or manoeuvrability I highly recommend rocketing your setup.
Rockered is love, rockered is life
Jelmer Jetten yeah boiiiiii! 😁
Automatic thumb up for u ! :)
As soon as i come back home, i got something good to watch !
Dany-69 hehe! thanks!
enjoy! :D
Le meilleur tuto sur les différents montages de roues que j'ai pu voir jusque la !
Image super claires ! descriptions très simple et précise = compréhension maximal ! même quelqu'un qui ne sais pas c'est quoi des rollers aurait compris !
C'est claire que le montage "rockered" donne énormément de manœuvrabilité.
Je l'avais fait grace à mes roues qui s'étaient usées de façon non uniforme (merci le T-stop, et pas changer mes roues assez régulièrement haha ) et on le sens au premier changement de direction, c'est le jour et la nuit de passer du flat au rockered !
Hâte de voir la suite du tuto !
J'adore la qualité de ton tutoriel !
Keep it up !
Just rocked my k2s as they seemed hard to use compared to my hockey ice skates. Brilliant now thanks.
Great video Tiago! I really like how you make both flow skate videos but also tutorials and videos like this just explaining terms. It's a nice way to keep the viewer interested in your every video :) (Y)
I am by no means advanced. I just switched to rocker. First minute out, I knew I was never going to back to flat. It made it so much easier. My skate actually respond to my inputs now. I don’t notice any difference in power or speed so far. It was so easy and feels more natural immediately. After 10 minutes, I was able to to go up on my toes for the first time. I did a few bunny hops, and landed just fine.
Nice work, thanks for another great video.
Warning: skating flat setup after full rocker can be a shocker!
I know this is 5 years late, but thanks for the advice. My 1992 Rollerblade Lightnings w/ Banana rocker setup just died and I'm researching new skates. I can't believe skates don't have that feature, and was considering just going with the flat setup. I'll find a rocker solution.
@@andrewwinger4970 I recently got the "FR Skates UFR 90 Intuition Skates" and like them a lot. They are rockered less than the Seba Igor, and I think I like it that way. The slightly larger 90mm size felt unexpectedly good for me, too!
@@freakingid I'll have to check those out. The 90mm probably roll better over bumps. Thanks!
wow! i was so confused with Hi Lo, banana, etc but you explained it really well! Thanks
I own a pair of the metroblades cool seeing my skates in your video!
I always set my skates up like this! Great tutorial!🤙🏼
My Roces skates have the same size wheel but the far back and forward wheel are lifted up a bit because of how the frame is made.
Back in the day the skates had the ability to remove a piece in the frame flip it so the rear and front wheels would rocker up . I wish I could find a pair of older roller blades with the metal frame geared towards this rocker system rather than change wheels ..
I still have my pair from the early 90's. Think they are mostly plastic though. The wheels turned into jello a few years ago.
lots of brands have these axels you can swap to rocker the wheels. seen Endless powerslide and seba have simalar.. im not an expert by any means but im sure there are axels you can buy and keep the 4 same wheels. much cheaper than new wheels or new frame. also just keep the front and back wheels on the front and back when you rotate wheels. they will wear down more giving you a natural rocker I have two old pairs with huge natural rockers
The rockered rails are 2/3 the cost of the whole skate. A set of 4 wheels is $30. Results are basically the same,
Thanks for sharing that link man
When I started to inline skate a few months ago, the flat setup really felt too stiff for my liking. Discovered the full rockered banana setup and really enjoyed it. I don't think I can ever go back. Though I'm interested in trying a tri state sometime. How different is the maneuverability between the two, and is a tri skate worth rockering or it shouldn't be done?
btw you're videos really help me! Thanks. always look forward to your videos. : )
lol I was looking at new inliners with rockered mode, and looked up these videos , and realized thats what I need since Im a figure skater, and use my inliners for transportation but find it annoying that I cant do curved and turns like on ice skates. Then I realized that my inliners ( salomon TR9) has built in rockered mode, I just had to turn my bolts on the middle wheels. there's an arrow on them up/down. No shit those were the top model back in the day (1999 I believe I got them). went 15km on them today. feels much more like ice skated. they respond to my hips now. the control at high speeds is not an issue since Im used to that on ice skates. I figure it trains my ankles much better now.
Gracias estoy entrando en el mundo del patinaje y esto me ayudó demasiado thx
Your stile of editing and speaking remind me of Domics youtuber! However very nice skate channel!
Front rocker here (just one wheel), faster and less wobbly. The problem I have with full rocker is that it makes legs work so much more just to maintain balance, making me tire faster during regular skating and doesn't really add much benefit if I want to go mostly forwards.
clray123 I still didn't try the front rocker yet :) just added to my to-do list :)
yes! that's true, at the beggining, my legs were always super tired because this setup makes you use more muscles/ or makes you use them in a different way; just to keep balance.
after using this setup for 2 years, my legs got stronger, and they don't feel tired at all, even after skating 8- 10 hours with that configuration.
I personnally find this setup more fun than the others because of everything I can do with it. but this is my personnal opinion :)
I went front rocker initially. Didn’t really notice much difference. The full rocker made a dif. I haven’t gotten any wobble. I’m not a speed skater, so I will probably stay below the speed that wobble occurs.
If you have a frame you can rocket the insert rather than the wheel you can still keep the brake .. I loved the original rocker frames with a break ..
Original Rollerblades of the 90's had a simple method to get a rockered setup, a barely-rockered or non-rockered setup by adjusting the axle positions. It was brilliant. I think it was a HUGE mistake to move away from this system. I think it was a key part of why rollerblading has dropped in popularity.
It's still being done today, like with the Katana frames from Powerslide; both with 3 & 4 wheels. FR skates also do that, same with Flying Eagle. These frames have their advantage , and are also very annoying with these bolts . My main frames have this system, but I'm moving back to pre-rockered frames since I only skate rockered. ✌️much faster when it comes to rotating or changing wheels
@@TiagoInlineSkater Thanks for letting me know. My ancient rollerblades died last night and so I got to figure out where to buy these.
Hey Tiago, how come you're mentioning 72 & 76 sizes, and not the more standardized 80s? Shouldn't matter if it's 76 - 80 - 80 - 76, right? And what about rocker frames, does it matter if you change the wheels or the frame?
Really been wanting to try out a set up like this lately. Really wanna mess around more with mushroom-ing and slalom 😈
Guamtek hehe! can't wait to see that!
Thank you ... for posting this video
Hi-Lo 4 ever! \m/ (>.
.... I think I accidently got myself a rockered setup just by using up my wheels and trying to grind them back into usable shape x) Good to know, good to know.
I'm mainly an aggressive skater, but now that I'm in my mid 30's I picked up some Seba FR1s and I really love the cruising free skate. I'm not going to like though... I wanna skate those cones like you do. It just seems so nimble and ninja like.
I have not rockered my setup yet, I'm probably going to do it w/ some 76mm wheels on the outside and 80mm on the inside.
Looking forward to the instructional video!
I tried banana rocker and loved it, tight turns great , but at higher speed very unstable and tremendous wear on the middle wheels , you can't change them over or you lose the rocker ! after a few weeks all the wheels became the same diameter . Fabulous maneuvering , bad wear .
Might go for a harder compound for the middle wheels. Theoretically, you should have the most wear on your back 2 wheels, when rockered. Try rotating wheels every so often
nice video, im watching from Brazil. Can you make a video about backwards crossovers?!
Rivaldo Marques thanks!
yup, will do; it's in my to-do list :)
Hey, nice vid! also I got my triskates!
Dire Wolfy Awesome! will you make a video about them? :D
Yes, when I find my mic after I finish moving to my new appartment.
Cool to learn i have rockered hi-lo inline skates, did not know there was a term/name for different size of wheels on a skate!
I'm curious to see how my skating abilities are when having skates with a flat setup ;p
Hey Tiago! Do you know the Rollerblade Twister? I want to buy them for freestyle. Is it a good choice?
Love from Germany, Nele!
I am bored without my skates ... send me one of yours hehe nice video tiago your awsome thanks fir explains
H4CKE R I wish I could do a Inline Skate giveaway ! 😌
Thanks!
Yeah, skating downhill on rockered setup is dangerous for your pants.
you can shit them, i mean.
just keep your stance, let them swerve, as long as your stance (knee,hip,shoulder) remains frontal they will average out straight.
So is it better to get a rocker setup or can you just put smaller wheels in or do the axels need to be switched around... Seen some with different axle locations .... Or probably just comes down to preference?!
Rollerblade Maxxum 100 uses a 3X100 + 1X90 setup with the 2nd wheel being the 90. The frame is leveled though. So, all four wheels are on the ground. I think they just did this to keep the boot lower to the ground and the frame a bit shorter. Any advice as to how to go about rockering such a frame?
Please do a tutorial on balancing on one wheel
Its all about doing it
How about a video about how to improve one's balance?
Hey Tiago, what song you use in this video? Thanks, love from Indonesia.
Hi Tiago,
Thank you.
I have got fr2 skates. Do I need to get another set of 2 smaller wheels for r rockered setup position?
My skates have inserts in the wheel bolt hole that can rotate to adjust how high the wheels are in the frame. Not sure if this is normal. They are from the early 90's
There are a few models out there today with offset axle bolts, for adjustability. I would have bought one of those models if I would have known. I have a decent pair of skates now, so It not worth it to scrap these for another $300 pair, but I would have if I knew
Olá Tiago! I purchased a pair of rockered 243mm frames for an 80mm rockered setup but the shop called me and said that they no longer had the rockered frame in stock and will not be getting it any more. I already have my full set of 80mm wheels and really don't want to go through the hassle of sending 4 back and getting 4x76mm wheels to make a rockered set up with my flat frame. I was thinking that maybe I could skate around for a while with just my front and rear wheels in the frame for a while until they wear down to make them smaller (maybe help the wear along its way by doing some slides) and make the rockered set up I'd like. I have no other options for rockering my set up as I have only a pair of aggressive skates besides my one pair of powerslide imperials and it's my first experience with a rockered set up. What are your thoughts?
Is there any or much difference between 80-76mm rocker and a pre rocker frame with all 80mm?
Is Full rockered set up good also for doing tricks? Especially jumping?
No wonder i fall when im going at fast speed, i had a full rockered setup.. Just randomly bought it hahaa been 2 weeks since i skate
Is the fr2s worth the extra 30 dollars over the fr3s? What's the difference and is the 30 dollars worth the upgrade?
I got a pair of recreational skates on my birthday, can I change the wheels to make it rockered? thank you!
Thanks for the video! If i wanna do more slides, should it be flat? or rockered? thanks a lot man!
Idk
it is posible to do slalom with 3x100/110mm no rockered inline skates?
I can use 76in front and back and 80 in the middle? I have the f6s falcon
I am not so much interested in slalom, but i would like more reactivity for freeride; Do you think that a rockered setup could work?
So can I use a flat frame 4x80 and just change the first one and the last one for 76mm and that would be a rockered set up?
Yes!
I have to ask, do you manage to city skate on a full rocker?
You will expend a little more energy, and scuba off a Little speed. That is the trade off. You will just build mor leg strength to compensate.
Can any 4 wheel skate like the eagle falcon use a rockered setup?
yeah, you can't go back to flat after rockered setup..
after breaking your body parts on going fast and starting to slide
What would be the best rockered setup for a triskate?
hey Tiago if I were to put a rockered inline setup on my F5S and they already have 80mm stock would 72mm or 76mm wheels be better?
Sam Carambat what did you try
I love your videos ur my inspiration to skate when I'm older and now just watching ur videos wants me to go skate it would mean the world to me if u game me a shoutout
What kind of skate do you use and what is its name?
i have two skates wheel size 80 mm and other on with 76 mm but i think the gap will be so large. should i do it or not?
Yes. 76 80 80 76 is the most common rocker set up. It works well.
Can I have the link of your wheels shop please?
i have a question between the ilq 9 pro and the ilq classic plus. The pro are just as robust as the classic plus? When jumping and hard landings? i have read the ilq 9 pro are for racing and not so for urban/freestyle action, is this right? Do you know about it?
si vous ne connaissez pas l'anglais ou non lu peut alors écrire quand même simplement vous ne savez pas. vous ne répondez pas, je n'aime pas, me regarder vos vidéos très heureux de
+Andreas Menge
Hey Andreas,
I have never tried the ILQ-9 Classic , but someone who prefers to use the classic version over the pro. he says the classic is tougher than the Pro version :)
Tiago Inline Skater
thanks a lot ✊😃
Almost at 5k!!! :D :D
Dire Wolfy Yes! :D
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Like a "bowwwwz" I wannabe a bowwwwz!
Has anyone ever rockered 80 mm. What would you rocker with them
Article read says to go down 2mm increments
intro music name please?
Like a bawse!
nice skills, nice video. Maybe too much face-picture-on-white-screen, it doesn't really add content value.
HI-LO FTW.!
*butt*
If it ain rockered i dont want it