Ground Type Pokémon in RBY (And why they're Mostly Great)
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Been a while since I made a video on an individual type in RBY, so today we're taking a look at the Ground type! Unlike the other two types I've talked about in RBY, the Ground type is actually pretty great! There's definitely a couple of medocre mons in the bunch though, so let's talk about them, and why they can't match up to one particularly fantastic mon!
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The funny thing about Onix having a high defense and low HP is that it's basically optimized to make Bide as weak as possible. Wonder if they did that on purpose to keep Brock from being any harder.
Onix is defo balanced with Brock in mind like it's such a random stat spread otherwise
Yea but it has the super high attack stat of 35 so it’s actually broken when you really think about it
Onyx was always funny to me. In original rby you can literally just ember it down with Charmander because it's special is so abysmal, and you might think playing yellow makes him more challenging because your starter is Pikachu but yellows early game is ripe with answers for Brock.
I remember reading a post discussing how Onix is a great example of early RPG boss design. His intimidating appearance+weak stats being done in a way to help novice players learn the ropes. It really got me thinking about how many Pokemon in gen 1 were designed to be balanced enemy encounters first, and good members of a team second. Especially since PvP wasn't even in the game until late in development, Game Freak probably felt plenty comfortable designing creatures like Onix.
@@TectonicImprov yeah it would have worked great if the AI was a little better. The fact that he attacks randomly kind of kills the idea. It could have been a relatively challenging boss battle if it set up screeches properly.
1:00 I find it really funny/weird that they buffed Leech Life in Gen 7 by a whole 60 BP. Some guy at game freak must've been like "you know what, bug can have this one" after making fairies resist bug in Gen 6.
Yeah getting the tm in sun and realizing it was suddenly a good move felt so random.
Shout outs to it being a TM in Rescue Team DX, but still seeming to have its bad power.
Agreed
I remember playing SM literally on release day in 2016. You get the TM really early on. I remember just being amazed that it’s now 80 power. I gave it to incineroar and didn’t look back.
They even went back and gave zubat and all the other early leech life users absorb instead which I think is kinda funny.
The fact that Marowak needed an item that literally gave it a free doubled attack stat in Gen 2 and then it didn't even stick around in OU for too many Gens after that says a lot about how bad it was
I mean it's not free if you have to use an item slot for this
Yeah I understand it's not actually free in terms of any cost ever, I did mention it was an item. I meant that it doesn't need to spend a turn using SD to boost to that attack stat (obviously it can still boost further with SD) and it doesn't have the restrictions of later boosting items. You are right though in that if it was literally free then it would be very different and Marowak might have been viable for much longer.
@@zade3488 azumarill is a good point of comparison, having the same effect on an ability. None of Kanto Marowak's abilities do anything. Rock head with only double edge to use it with. Lightning rod when you are already ground type. Battle armor when you won't be sitting there and tanking. Basically a ground type rampardos except slower.
Meanwhile A-wak was OU-viable with the same stat spread.
"If I ever tank a Golem explosion I'll let you know how it goes" had me dying
Big Yellow's to-do list
beat up an onix
tank a golem explosion
world domination, probably
@@estherstreet4582 taking over the Tri-State Area
@@estherstreet4582 commit a hate crime on dragonite.
@@gnomefrompinkerton1116 it is pretty rare. Does that count?
@@gnomefrompinkerton1116 i mostly posted this because i thought it was funny. I never thought i would be talking about the semantics of hate crime as a concept.
Ground types are probably the most consistent type from gen 1 to gen 8. Immunities are always helpful and they’re also extremely offensively potent, leading to a type which has remained at the forefront of competitive Pokemon for ages.
landorus-therian
Ground + Water are the two most consistent types throughout all 8 gens
@@MioAppreciator flying + ground is an unbelievably busted typing
Garchomp in gen 4 and gen 8
@@KindaKaon Just looks at Gliscor too.
It still amazes me that earthquake was never nerfed in later generations, the only wide distributed move with no draw backs and 100 base power and 100 accuracy. Only other move i can think of is return and frustration.
And then Return and Frustration got removed in Sw/Sh. Earthquake stays winning
Something needs to be consistent
EQ is almost entirely balanced the same way that ground as a whole is - flying types. You couldn’t have a 100/100 move on pretty much any other type (except moonblast which is coincidentally one of the most spammable moves of all time) because flying is so common that it entirely keeps EQs fantastic power and accuracy in check
@@KindaKaon Also Levitate (and Air Balloon (and Magnet Rise))
One thing to remember is that Pokemon is a mostly single player game (+trading for completion) first, casual multiplayer game second, competitive multiplayer game third.
Mechanics were even put in place to obfuscate how good your pokemon's stats will be, to discourage taking PVP especially seriously.
Bug types are bad because you meet bug trainers early in the story, earthquake is good because Giovanni is the last gym boss.
They weren't designing for balance, they were designing for a curve. And there's places they fucked up with that (Like how dominant Psychic is when Sabrina's a mid-game gym) but that appears to be the goal.
So, while they've taken some steps, I'm not surprised it's not a balanced game. It's not really meant to be.
Onix is the best example of 'no they were not thinking PvP was going to even exist when making RBY' because he is pretty clearly just designed as a first boss who does not care if you hit it with tackle but if you use type effectiveness correctly you just win automatically. It's just a lesson to the 5 year olds that they need to learn what type beats what and it's supposed to die to anything that isn't tackle/scratch
And then they forgot to put anything that hits rock/ground super effectively before him, so if you're playing charmander you're in hard mode until you get Confusion on Butterfree.
@@kevingriffith6011 no you can just use ember, its special bulk is so shit that it genuinely can't tank half damage hits from non-physical attacks
@@kevingriffith6011 Except that Onix's special bulk is so trash you can just spam Ember.
@@hi-i-am-atan Depending on if RNG is kind to you he can still cause charmander trouble, even with ember, but yes. It's just easy to get discouraged when geodude comes before him and also soaks up a handful of embers before going down. It's the difference between two OHKOs with the other starters and two Three hit KOs, I'd say that counts as hard mode.
@@kevingriffith6011 Giving Metal Claw to Charmander in FR/LG was so transparently to make Brock less painful.
I can't wait until the rock video, so we can hear what you think about Rhydon, Golem, and Onix
they're all bad but I guess onix is ok
@@BigYellowSilly onix nerf when
This legit made me spit my drink.
Which I think might count as a Water attack? I bet I can 2HKO Onix.
@@0ctopusComp1etely nah you 1HKO onix
@@BigYellowSilly what if onix uses quick claw
Saying you don't know how well you'll take a golem's explosion is by far the best way I've heard someone say they're queer
Big Yellow is genderfluid. They use Acid Armor as part of their moveset.
@@AgsmaJustAgsmayeah that jokes really funny (sincere)
It's a phenomenal joke
onix's defenses are basically the equivalent of building a very nice, sturdy house without a roof
it could probably survive like, a car slamming into it but any rain or snow would absolutely decimate it
I love how accurate this metaphor is.
To continue the metaphor, additionally, the house will eventually grow grass around it from being battered by the rain and snow
@@iantaakalla8180 To add further, the grass grows under the house itself because it has no floor either (shit HP). It is just walls. There doors and windows are also shit (attacking stats), but at least the walkway leading up the house is halfway decent (speed).
The best way to explain onix to my dad #TGRO
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 and then the grass covered walls get set on fire which completely wrecks them despite being very sturdy (onix having terrible special)
I still find it so hilarious that Rhydon in RBY was arguably the best user of Substitute, which the design of *was* Rhydon's Sprite when its in your party in the actual RBY Games (though to be fair I guess a lot of Pokemon share that kind of sprite in RBY, but its especially funny because that same sprite also happens to be presumably based on Rhydon.)
I've never even considered that but that's honestly really cool lmao
in Pokemon Stadium it's very clearly based on Rhydon
harder to tell in RBY. almost looks like Kangaskhan's baby there.
it's literally a rhydon plush in stadium.
@@DJFracusRhydon was the first pokemon added to the game
I enjoy that the most replayed part of the vid is you falling over
I had no idea that's pretty badass tho
If legendaries are any indication, your chances against Golem-explosion are p good
RE Onix in ZU: Onix is a BEAST and easily second best mon. It does what Rhydon and Golem does in its tier, ie take normal attacks /twaves and check troublemakers who don't have coverage (Magneton and Scyther). It's like a mix between OU Rhydon and UU Tentacruel. It stops what it needs to stop, can pivot like crazy and also has Explosion. Thing is a beast. Brock would be proud.
Which mon is the best one in RBY ZU?
@@pksprite6401 As one of the five people that plays RBY ZU, it's Arbok.
Arbok completely trolls everything slower than it due to being the fastest Wrap user in the tier. It can also paralyze anything faster than it with the 75% accurate Glare. Arbok also has to a decently strong Earthquake (which is very valuable in a tier with a lot of Ground weaknesses) and Rock Slide / Mega Drain. Rock Slide hits Pidgeot and Scyther for big damage, and Mega Drain does massive damage to Onix.
It's not the most flashy #1 Pokémon ever, but it's super efficient and good at it's job.
I’m glad that there’s a tier ruled by the snakes.
@@hoodedman6579 ZU is short for Znakes Unleashed
@@JV-uq9cf znakes...
“I could probably take onix”
“In a fight, right?”
“In a fight, right!?!”
Surprised no one made the obvious Harden joke yet.
I'm more of a ekans stan
Rhydon being capable of learning both Bubblebeam and Surf given its double weakness to Water moves isn't even close to the weirdest thing about RBY.
Kinda want to plumb the depths and figure out the weirdest thing about RBY. Including or excluding the Japanese versions?
@@artistwithouttalent There's an entire town only findable using glitches and exploits which has nothing in it. Or the entire existence of a second pokedex's worth of glitch pokemon.
They gave Rhydon 3 Water moves but neither of the Rock/Water fossils a Rock move
In general, Pokemon that were designed early on in RBY's lifecycle tend to have bizarrely wide TM movepools, especially the nonspecific kaiju-looking ones. This also shows in the case of the Nidos, Kangaskhan, Lickitung, Clefairy, and Cubone.
honestly it's kinda normal for a mineral dinosaur thing to learn surf at this point.
I firmly believe Onix was created to be a mildly challenging first boss in RBY
It's likely that Lickitung was created with the same reasoning for a potenial first gym in Viridian city.
@@GynxShinxI never heard that before. Where did you hear that?
@@toxicperson8936 Don't remember, but probably Palgue Von Karma.
lemme guess@@GynxShinx ... the gym would have been clefairy shaped and the other pokemon of the leader would have been clefairy :) I am pretty sure most gym leader teams in gen 2 were leftover sets for gen 1 hence most of the teams being gen 1 pokemons. I can see lickitung being dropped for the cuter miltank which is very similar in morphology and color.
@@cryptosporidium01omg can you imagine the memes of a world where whitney’s ace is lickitung?
Yeah. Onix was (as mentioned on twitter when you talked about it) was clearly designed as a “first boss”. Given RBY almost not even having multiplayer battles, a big scary snake that dies to any easily obtainable weakness other than mankey is a good tutorial for most players.
Unrelated: it’s interesting how Bulbasaur is great early but tapers off, Squirtle is pretty well rounded having high and low notes (especially if you teach it dig) and Charizard certainly peaks later. It’s like a pseudo difficulty option. Although… I wish we’d get actual difficulty options.
Well in Gen 1 you can abuse “Good AI” with Venusaur late in the game or tbh Nidoking, which is the best in-game RBY mon. It’s funny how it’s NU in competitive but a staple of speedruns
I always took steelix as the pokemon onix would’ve been were it not for brock
I think Venasaur is the best starter, or at least better than Charizard. Auto crit Razor Leaf and abusing good ai agility spam is so good.
@@carucath97 Another factor that makes Poison-type actually good for Nidoking in speedruns is that the low-health beeping effect overrides a lot of other sound effects, some of which delay the run by about half a second. So you actually want a Pokemon that can get knocked into red health fairly early, and Nidoking fills that job well enough, since it has so many weaknesses.
@@Begeru I mostly meant in like type matchups. Bulbasaur tends to struggle past Surge (excluding Giovani). But yeah auto critical razor leaf is pretty insane.
22:39 "if I ever tank a golem explosion I'll let you know how it goes" fucking SENT me. We love to see it.
I don't know, I like Big Yellow. I don't think I want to see them run the risk of dying to a golem explosion
I hope Big Yellow evolves to ghost type, because of that.
Ground is probably one of the consistantly best types in the entire game. Ground + almost any other type is great on offense and/or defense, EQ is a great move on any physical attacker, Earth Power is nice on special attackers, it's the only type that has more types it hits super effective than resists / immunities, you're resistant to Stealth Rock, immune to sand, immune to Tbolt and Volt Switch. It's pretty nutty
The only thing really holding it back is that virtually all ground types are pretty sliw, or the quick ones have a drawback.
We have seen what happens when you make a ground type the exception to this. Lando and garchomp, lol.
The nido's aren't too quick, but with godly movepools and an ability that works beautifully with it, they just carve out more of a niche than most others do.
It's a shame that there are so few rock and ground types that break the archetype of slow, bulky physical mons. The exceptions have been kinda killer, if they weren't held back by something else. *Glances at the terrible movepool or abilities of the rock flying types*
Actually rock also hits more types for supereffective damage than resist/are immune to it. If a pokemon was every type at once rock is the only type that’d hit it for supereffective damage (since as flying type it’d be immune to ground).
On top of that, the omnipotence of Steel's resists are subverted by a clever EQ, and while Fire and Fighting also manage this, they're much worse offensively (generally less useful coverage after Normal never getting anything ever again and coverage done better by different coverage options respectively), and that's on top of the type having the craziest move to hit things with. Being a hard-counter in every respect to electrics also doesn't hurt, given how debilitating paralysis is, how overwhelming electric mid-tier legendaries tend to be (Zapdos, Raikou, Thundurous, Regileki seriously they keep getting away with it) and how ground types usually have something besides being a ground type associated with them, whether that be insane presence, a difficult-to-counter bulk or being Garchomp in gen 4. It's a type that's given every ability they can think of every generation. Absolutely busted.
22:50 this was really inspirational to me. Sometimes it’s really hard being a trans girl. It can seem like a never ending uphill battle and sometimes I just want to give up. But this made me realize that no matter how bad it gets, no matter how much I question myself, no matter how hopeless I may be: I will NEVER be OHKO’d by a golem explosion.
And that makes everything worth it in the end
I wholeheartedly agree
What if it crits tho
Golem is the reason men die younger
Legendary comment.
It's gonna be okay! Sylveon, Primarina, Hatterene and all the other Trans girl pokemon hv got ur back ❤️
Babe, wake up. New Big Yellow Pokémon video
Having a girlfriend means you have less time to watch Big yellow. Break up with her
No but literally
@@lyingcorn And who says that?
@@lyingcorn watch it together, best solution
True
The passion you have for competitive RBY is so palpable and contagious. Love to see it
You should make an April Fool's video called "Ghost Type Pokémon in RBY"
It would literally just be Ghastly, Haunter, and Gengar
I’d love to see a video combining that with other underrepresented types in Gen 1. Might just be Ghost and Dragon, but hey, Gengar and Dragonite are both worth discussing.
wish granted
@@Zyvox Hell yeah
No way
Gen 2 Marowak gotta be one of the biggest glowups a mon got before megas. Great video, thanks for the explanation on Golem falling off!
If Diggersby was in Gen 1, it would _nearly_ never experience what paralysis is like.
True but I think though that would be it's only niche
@@ashyflame Imagine if it gen 1 has ability and the thing have superpower
@@naganut9718 well if abilities existed in gen 1 starmie, chansey and tauros would dominate the meta even more
Still gotta look out for Arbok glare when it falls to ZU
@@melvint-p9500 Diggersby would have to watch out for Stun Spore, not Glare.
I think the pokemon youtube community has been popping off lately. I've been into the games more than ever because of great content like this
Off topic, but I wanted to say that you got me into competitive gen 1
I’ve been considering playing RBY OU for a while, but your vids were the ones that got me to try to make my own teams
So thank you for introducing me to this sick tier
Same here! Been taking a break ever since I lost 6-0 to a team with two thunder wave users and 4 wrappers….
I gotta respect them bringing Arbok but I also hope both sides of their pillow are always hot.
Me too I have the same thing haha
Fun Fact:
Rhydon has the coolest gen 1 sprite.
Look at that dude. He looks like he is ready to fight, take names and then sit down and eat a sandwich.
Rhydon vs Onix
Rhydon is insanely cool. Fsr I've always loved the way it evolves. There's a lot of pokemon that go from a little four legged thing to a big two legged bruiser, but with Rhydon it feels like a really special transformation somehow.
Counterpoint: Tentacruel
@@manjackson2772 I think part of it is just that Rhyhorn is already a pretty nasty-looking dude; its design is entirely fitting for a single-stager, and even statwise, RBY Rhyhorn isn't that far off from some fully-evolved Pokemon. And then it evolves on top of that...
It's hilarious to me that Dugtrio is very viable in RBY UU, when it's such a menace in later generations with its trapping.
It's so weird to see Dugtrio be good on its own merits without Arena Trap
@@BigYellowSillyit’s pretty good in gen 9 pu
10:18 Love how he says "This image is important" instead of "This image is accurate", implying the image of Shadow itself is ultimately integral to the RBY OU Metagame
RBY OU will not run without Shadow.jpeg
I find it absolutely hilarious that even when Onix got it's brand new giga-chinned evolution in Steelix, it can't avoid getting outclassed, or at least having extremely strict competition with the Golem evolutionary family (Steelix has it's notable traits, with a better defensive typing and higher physical bulk, but nothing beats the funny Rapid SpEeN)
Massive Orange rocking the Kazuya Mishima eyebrows to promote Tekken 8 you love to see it
Unfortunately Ground types are immune to EWGF ):
Fun fact: Marowak is the only gen 2 Pokemon that can be traded to RBY via the GSC time machine!
What you mean? Huh
What
my guess is that it's a joke that marowak is so worthless without thick club introduced in gen 2 so it only "becomes" a pokemon in gen 2
Jeez, you guys are slow
Just a quick comment early in the video: that hand of five Exodia legs is comically illegal; not only does Yugioh have a three card limit but all five pieces of Exodia are on the limited list, so they're _1_ per deck. Running multiple Exodia pieces like that would be such poor cheating that you'd just draw hands just like that and lose anyway.
Edit: I'm surprised when you mentioned the Dig glitch, you didn't recommend people who are interested go watch your Banned Strategies video. I feel like it's pretty standard to encourage viewers to watch more of your videos, and you gave just enough info in this one to "get it" but left out enough details that going to see that video would be a good idea. Seemed like the perfect segue.
Them being limited was the bane of my stupid gimmick "Exodia pimp slaps you to death" deck.
@@beautifulnova6088 please elaborate
@@zotanica Simple, really. The premise was to play either Exodia's right or left hand and use a bunch of spellcaster or dark monster buffing cards to make it big enough to slap the opponent to death.
@@beautifulnova6088 That is a hilarious gimmick.
Thanks, both a Karma and Yellow video for Pokemon.
I always kinda liked the ground type Pokemon, with Groudon and Hippodwon bring some of my favorite.
Reverend also uploaded a really good vid today, it's like international RBY day ua-cam.com/video/zK7_Xq0xBgM/v-deo.html
@@BigYellowSilly I will add him to my bell as well, I found him because of the Ubers video.
Ground is probably my favorite type. There’s only like 2 or 3 I can think of that I don’t care about.
Favorites are Excadrill, Mudsdale, both Nidos, Rhyperior, a lot of em really.
The "discovery" in 2014 about bodyslam not paralizing normal types seems so wild and out there to me, I've known that since around 2006 when i played a lot of stadium and just noticed I never paralized any normal types with rental pokecup lapras's bodyslam which was one of my favorite pokemon. As a kid I though it made sense, "it's a normal attack so it doesn't paralize normals, just like how toxic can't poison poison types" Dx how nobody noticed this for so many years wtf
yeah I think it just goes to show how much the competitive scene was centered around simulators (understandable if you want freeze/sleep clause among other things)
Considering, on cartridge, psychic can special drop Zam, twave can para Zapdos, but toxic doesn't work on Muk, it isn't immediately obvious that status-as-side-effect doesn't affect the same type. I'd assume I was just getting unlucky in RBY single player if my body slams never para'd a normal type, unless you play it a TON like you did most ppl probably wouldn't even have enough scenarios to notice that some Pokemon never get para'd by body slam.
It's pretty nuts
Onix was designed to be the boss mon of the first Gym rather than an individual Pokemon. It's why he has an ungodly amount of Defense but no Attack or HP, and oddly solid Speed. He exists to teach the children playing Pokemon on their Gameboy that spamming Tackle won't win every battle for them, and to pay attention to type advantages/disadvantages.
omg the makeeup and choker in that clip from stream, you were KILLING it
“the problem is, so do good pokémon” had me gafawwing
This vid was very fun! You should definitely do these a little more often. It’s super interesting to learn more about these less talked about types and why some pokemon suffer.
Onix is a pretty good argument in favor of Jrose's theory that moves and Pokemon in RBY were balanced against how strong they'd be against the player.
And then starmie is a pretty good arguèrent against that because it’s Misty’s (the 2nd gym leaders) ace yet starmie is one of the 6 best Pokémon in rby OU
@@ultimapower6950 starmie is absolutely meant to destroy you though. I think it having access to bubblebeam and being very strong is on purpose. You're supposed to just lose that fight and go "oh shit" and then you decide to go elsewhere, get through your rival and nugget bridge, potentialy find a grass pokemon there and then come back a bit later better armed to deal with it *or* if you don't feel confident the game opens up a bit letting you go through vermillion's section before actuallly walling you off and asking you to beat misty to make progress.
I feel like brock is meant to teach you "you can beat that, just persevere and change your strategy, play smart not hard". While misty is meant to teach you "sometimes it's best to comeback a bit later with higher level". Also it destroying you with bubblebeam makes it feel like a significant reward (and it really is at this point in the game). The same way that brock encouraging smarter approaches gives you a less direct move (a bad one but still that's the idea).
After that the game does open up a lot though and while there is a mostly clear intended path I don't feel like any of the remaining trainers are giving you any clear lessons. You're pretty much out of the tutorial section after that. Well i guess surge is teaching you about catching other pokemon because it's got a very strong thunderbolt but it's completely shutdown by the digglet (or even worst the high level rare dugtrio) in diglet cave. But surge is also not very strong and almost completely optional for most of the game so there is that (very valuable badge for the ability to fly but flying isn't required).
Honestly gen 1 might be broken as all hell, but as an adventure singleplayer game it's pretty well designed.
Alternative title: Big Yellow roasts Marowak
Red and Blue were supposed to have far more Pokemon in them, primarily most of what you see in Gold in Silver. I'm sure Onix was meant to evolve into Steelix, who most likely got cut from the game. Then they just never bothered to change Onix's stats.
You can tell Marowak was probably supposed to evolve just by that stat distribution.
If I remember right that's probably true cause isn't there a glitchmon that evolves from Marowak?
@@BigYellowSilly I am not sure of a glitch mon evolving from marowak, but I found that there was a scraped marowak evo in the back sprite leak.
I heard a rumor that Marowak was originally supposed to be connected to Kangaskhan during it's development, but this was obviously scrapped later on
@@BigYellowSilly idk about evolving from Marowak, but M evolves into Kangaskhan and people like to associate them sometimes, so maybe you were thinking of that?
Yeah that exodia hand is super illegal. Even getting into the fact that Exodia and all its pieces are on the Limited list (meaning you can only have one copy of each piece in your deck) the maximum amount of copies a deck can have of any card is three.
Part of me just wants RBY analysis videos for every type now. Or at least every type except Ghost and Dragon since those can just be merged into Poison and Flying respectively
Don’t forget Rock, which I think is basically just part of this video.
Wham. Ghost type video.
@@hoodedman6579minus the fossils only I think
0:39 I used to run a Rhydon with submission and almost everytime i used it, it would miss. I hate submission so much.
The worst part is finally landing it and realizing how little a super effective Submission does more than EQ
@@BigYellowSilly honestly. Submission does only 4% more to tauros than eq and tauros can just 2HKO with Blizzard. Its amazing just how terrible this move is.
It's always genuinely inspiring to see dedicated, insightful and charismatic enbys in competitive metas. Love your stuff to death Yellow ❤️
7:15 the transition from PvZ music to Jack-A-Dandy goes HARDDD
it's just really cool how a tier can evolve and change based on discoveries even years after it's no longer current, as long as people continue to play it. I recall hearing exeggutor being listed as the top 4 along with the 3 obligatory normal types. but it looks like right now it's swapped places with starmie.
Sandslash is my favorite off-meta pick in ou. It'll probably never be a staple bc its easy to counter if you expect it, but since people dont expect it, it often can put in work. Even if you cant get swords dance up, and you usually can on a paralyzed chansey, zapdos, or sleepy boy, you have a thunder wave absorber that can often 1v1 rhydon and reliably hurt tauros. I almost always get something out of sandslash.
Good old Ground type. I’ve always liked this type quite a bit, there’s a lot of great Ground mons out there, though I’ve never been too huge on any of Gen 1’s Ground types.
Also the Jack-a-Dandy transition into the Rhydon segment goes way too hard.
Onix is the poster boy for Pokémon that look stronger than they actually are.
Can we all just appreciate that Yellow only chooses Bangers to play in the BG, in every video :)
I'm so glad I found this channel! You're genuinely so entertaining and relaxing to listen to and I'm really enjoying learning about RBY and older gens :)
you have quickly become one of my fav youtubers. you’re so knowledgeable about the meta but break it down in a really accessible and fun way. 10/10
Ground to me is essentially Earthquake: the type. But has so many raw designs that I am totally fine with that
loving your videos. also the nails are so cool :D
I never noticed till this video, but Chansey's gen 1 sprite design is really nice. It gives them a lot of personality
22:40 - 22:59 is one of my favorite moments in this channel, I'm not sure if gambling your life is a good trade though.
I think Ground being so good is because Water has always ranged from decent to amazing in every gen and they both elevate one another. Water/Ground/Electric interactions have been a core relationship for near every metagame across multiple generations. Water washes Ground, but Electric threatens Water and Ground doesn't care about Electric.
If you run a strong Water type chances are you will bring a Ground type to cover that Electric weakness AND when they are a dual type together it is one of the best typings possible. Sure not all water/ground types have crazy stats but their defensive and offensive coverage alone is wild. Swampert is a super flexible mon that can be used to tank, support, lead or be a monstrous attacker as a Mega because both it's stabs hit most types pretty hard. Then there's the flexibility of either Sand or Rain teams.
I genuinely think in the upcoming Scarlet and Violet that the new mechanic allowing your Pokémon to change type is going to make mixed Sand/Rain teams interesting. Either remain their default type for Sand or Rain or just switch types to the other one depending on what the opponent is running.
Yeah, fair point. I wish grass was more of a factor, cause it can legitimately mess with that entire trio, but it's generally so weak that you can practically ignore it as far as team building goes. With some obvious exceptions of course
@@skinnysnorlax1876 Yeah grass' biggest strength is more it's utility against itself (ignoring Spore haha). Like a 4x weakness to most any other typing would be a deal breaker but water/ground is just THAT good for it to not really be something to be extremely concerned with. Garchomp needs to worry about ice beam coverage or Charizard worries about rock slide/rock blast/stone edge being commonly paired with ground moves it normally ignores but hardly anything runs Grass as coverage unless it has STAB.
@@caldw615 it's also partly because ice or rock coverage makes almost any Mon better. Grass coverage is basically only good on electric types, or bulky water types that want to beat other, bulky water types
Love your nails, gal! I know that's not the point of this, but... it was a pleasant surprise to see the new look! Watched the video over breakfast and did a double take. You go girl!
Big yellow is slowly turning in the Waluigi and I’m here for it all the way
the men vs women golem explosion joke was pretty funny. good video
I'm a big fan of this series, keep it up! Nice going under shoutout btw, more people really need to play that game
Onix stat distribution was to give the player an introduction to the type chart, since they mostly encountered normal moves up to that point
It was essentially designed as a tutorial puzzle boss to teach the player, and give them time to learn that lesson
Commenting for algorithm things! I worked for like 9 hours today after getting back from a 12 hour drive yesterday and I just wanna say that seeing you post new RBY content is always super exciting and puts a smile on my face, I keep forgetting to tune into your streams but I seriously could listen to you talk about pokemon for hours and kinda sorta do since you're like one of four channels I regularly watch (yay content hyperfixation). From a fellow them™️ creator, keep being awesome, I love your stuff!!!
I love the way you explain things. It's not a constant barrage of words overloading my senses like some other videos, and it can be pretty funny.
Alright but lets talk about how it took nearly 20 years for the competitive scene to realize body slam couldnt paralyze normal types 💀
STAB EQ. One of the old reliables of Unga Bunga.
Ground has always been a good type due to its relative versatility. Strong offense and defense typing. Pairs well with other typings.
Speaking on the nidos, why did GF give them +10 atk and didn't give them Gunk Shot? I love to see buffs, but not when those buffs are garbage.
It's weird they got an Attack buff too when both were special attackers for years
Funny that they made Onix so weak so that Brock wouldn't be too strong, but then gave Misty a Starmie when the average newb is still going to have crappy pokemon at that point.
Yes, that hand of 5 left legs of Exodia would get you asked if you understood basic decklist limitations, and subsequently kicked out of the tournament.
As a guy who played a lot of Gen 6 and 7 OU back in its hayday and is now usually playing on RU, UU and Ubers. It is hard for me to make a team without at least ground or flying type because of how common EQ and Electrics no matter the tier and its fun to predict when a Tbolt or EQ is coming.
I barely watch any pokemon related content these days, but I really like your videos on older gens. Clear but funny explanations why shit is used the way it is, keep it coming
They really did onix dirty giving it an attack stat lower than fucking oddish
I have no idea whether I'll ever play RBY competitive, but just watching all your videos is very nice.
I think you should. Not half bad. But there's a lot of stupid bullshit here, so you'll probably have to accept that
Doesn't have anything to do with the video and I usually don't like commenting,
BUT...
You have the most elegantly build pair of hands I have seen, maybe ever. There is something inexplicably beautiful about your way of gesturing, something enrapturing, that makes your way if presentation very engaging to watch, no matter the subject.
Not trying to be weird or anything,
I find this to be a very likeable character trait👍
Also had a lot of issues commenting,
might just be my internet.
Please delete any doubles of my weird comment.
"So yeah dig sucks it's just a worse version of EQ but also it's banned because of this completely gamebreaking bug" this is peak RBY
Interesting how basically every ground type except the nido couple and Dugtrio follow the same pattern (to varying degrees) of High attack, mediocre-to -abysmal HP, High Defense (usually its highest stat) and then low special and Speed.
Great videos, looove the Pokémon content. Also Slayer’s Xrd theme goes with everything.
Whenever I see Onix, I just feel bad. I always thought that Onix should’ve been on the level of Miltank in stats, and effective early wall. Maybe giving it at least a decent place in UU.
Please do not make me think about that. Onix with F'ing 100 speed and higher HP...with that defense. No thanks. Sorry if I seemed so mean. I was just horrified by the fact of a miltank-esque Onix.
@@CoralReaper707 No no, I don’t mean in copying stats, I mean in total.
@@CoralReaper707 oh no, a version of onix that has stats on par with the fully evolved pokemon that it is, the horror
@@CoralReaper707 still wouldnt be that good honestly, it would still crumble to 4x attacks and special moves, on top of being weak. itd be like regirock but worse
@@wheatleythebrick2276 we’re speaking of gen 1 UU. regirock wouldn’t exist.
Fuuug yeah, every time I need this sort of stuff you're right there in my sub inbox, perfect timing every time. A magician of content.
Something I've thought about before is what if Dugtrio got special moves. It has base 70 special, same as Tauros, but no special moves. Dugtrio with blizzard and thunderbolt would actually be kind of terrifying it has something for grass types and can threaten water types with crit tbolts.
ur eyebrows look so GOOD IM SO JEALOUS
Can you make a video talking about every noob trap Pokémon?
That would be a really fun idea actually
The compressed labyrinth zone theme at the end of the video makes for the best outro you ever made
YASS ANOTHER TYPE VIDEO
please make a video on the grass types, i feel like some of them are really good but in really different ways and that's fascinating imo
I'm just chuckling throughout the video at the nicknames.
UPDATE: Golem is now UU and is very good in the tier.
It hard counters Dodrio and nothing switches into its EQ. To my understanding the best answer to it is Tangela, who is not on every team.
"If I ever tank a Golem explosion I'll let you know how it goes." 😂
I was like "how can you get paralyzed while underground in rby??" but he meant 'locked up/unable to move from paralysis'
These RBY/General Pokemon explanation videos have become some of my fave on youtube, keep it up :D
I wish Golem kept Rapid Spin. Would be exceptional in Gen 3 UU, Gen 5 NU (good God this tier needed Hitmonchan and Sandslash) and Gen 6 PU.
@@BlueAizu_ iirc it used to have rapidspin in gen 2 and they just... kinda never gave it access to it again?? rapidspin is a huge part of why it's better than rhydon by a significant margin in GSC from my admittedly limited understanding of Gen 2 OU
Golem got Rapid Spin from an event and the whole GSC incompatibility with RSE ruined that
Yoo that's the smoothest way I've ever seen someone drop that they're Nbie
love to see it
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That’s interesting. Tauros is considered the undisputed king and has been for a long time. But the other two Normals have slightly higher usage.
Not sure if the monarchy is coming to an end or if Tauros just is so good is doesn’t need to be used in every battle to be a king.
Actually this is mostly due to games being won where the winner doesn't reveal their Tauros, out of the big 3 Tauros generally wants to come in the latest in the game, so it's more likely to win a game without sending it in
I love how the meta is so far gone that everybody needs a Tauros, but since Tauros is a late-game sweeper you don’t want to bring in your Tauros.
"Crazy Onix tech"
I'll be waiting 😭
Turns out the tech was to play ZU
Damn the choker and the eyeliner are badass 😳
Love your content, you make great stuff!
It’s kinda funny how even in _ZU,_ Sandslash has shown up to upstage Marowak yet again. Like how low do the tiers have to go for bro to be viable?
We'll have to make the fabled SU tier a thing
(Probably not cuz RU, another in-between tier isn't a thing, but eh)
THE SECRET NONBINARY GOLEM EXPLOSION RESISTANCE (technique) OMG