Airbus A320: Engine Fire During the Take-off Roll

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • www.balticaa.com This week Pranas Drulis and Andrejs Apsitis, ATPL Integrated students at Baltic Aviation Academy, demonstrated how to perform a rejected take-off due to an engine fire and the actions associated with this emergency.
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  • @mackiealvior7847
    @mackiealvior7847 7 років тому +93

    I love how he say 'We are here today to burn an engine' haha...

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi 10 років тому +91

    1:06 "We won, we rotate, we too". - Pilots mantra. :)

  • @airbuscpt
    @airbuscpt 9 років тому +55

    Flight Attendants are trained to evaluate the evacuation. Flight deck crews have been known to give wrong side information. Specifying which side has been obsolete for over 10 years. Capt A320

    • @davidrose1993
      @davidrose1993 2 роки тому +4

      I was wondering about that ;-)

    • @thitule7768
      @thitule7768 2 роки тому

      @@davidrose1993 qpoxlxkxkkz,-s
      M

  • @DEViANCEHiPPO
    @DEViANCEHiPPO 11 років тому +19

    Finally a co-pilot that has good english skills. Nice video! :D

  • @DirectorJK
    @DirectorJK 11 років тому +2

    Labai noreciau, kad susuktumete koki video apie neuzgestanti variklio gaisra ore. Be to butu smagu pamatyti veiksmus neissiskleidus vaziuoklei arba, kaip buvo ivyke kazkada realiame gyvenime, kai kreisiariniame aukstyje dingsta elektra visame laktuve. Zinau, kad pats susivelciau juodai tokiose situacijose is vietoj gelbejimosi liemenes tureciau parasiuta, bet idomu, kai gali patyre zmones padaryti tokiose situacijose. Dekui

  • @Jet-Pack
    @Jet-Pack 11 років тому +10

    I think it doesn't matter because the engine is already damaged. Even if the reverser thrust isn't as high as in the other engine there are stil those flaps that open and create drag. And the engine is stil rotating the fan, so it stil creates some thrust.
    AND its much easier just to reverse both engines. You don't have the time to check which engine is on fire if you just hear the sound of the engine fire warning.

  • @blueb0g
    @blueb0g 10 років тому +25

    A320 has slides on the wing exits, full flaps aren't required

  • @jaffacake1578
    @jaffacake1578 11 років тому +4

    True, depending on the aircraft, they either light up automatically, or they are activated by the crew. If it is automatic, it'll be programmed to run off of standby power from a power source such as a battery anyway, if not, the crew will have to switch them on.

  • @Sukkulents_
    @Sukkulents_ 6 років тому +4

    Ok, I know it says not to use for training purposes but it is good guidance on how to handle the situation calmly and what precautions to take. Whether you like it or not, I’m learning

  • @a320airbus6
    @a320airbus6 7 років тому +23

    pranas is a great pilot

  • @Masterkruizer
    @Masterkruizer 11 років тому +4

    Great video! I like how Pranas was the first out haha.

  • @ctdesing
    @ctdesing 11 років тому +3

    yes, i am referring to the Engine Fire procedure. it's the same thing, but instead of ECAM actions, 737 pilots have to refer to the QRH for abnormal procedures checklist.

    • @marcox2937
      @marcox2937 Рік тому +1

      No wonder 55 died at Manchester

  • @cageordie
    @cageordie 2 роки тому +9

    Very useful. Spirit Airlines just had exactly the second scenario due to a bird strike.

  • @jjaus
    @jjaus 11 років тому +5

    Great stuff guys! You do the best cockpit videos on UA-cam. You should have way more views. I am going to see what I can do about that. Don't be surprised if your views jump in the next couple of days.

  • @caseyc408
    @caseyc408 8 років тому +4

    Very interesting stuff, flying is so fascinating. I like the disclaimer "not for use in training". Haha. I would be worried if my first day on the job as a pilot they make you watch a youtube video. HAHA.

  • @joaohen
    @joaohen 11 років тому +3

    I think Airbus has a "protection". In that case "reverse are green" so I think it's ok to use

  • @jaffacake1578
    @jaffacake1578 11 років тому +1

    Correct, which is exactly what should be done. Passengers need to evacuate the opposing side of danger. The BA crew on the recent incident involving their Airbus A319 with an engine fire put the passengers out of any risk, they evacuated the opposite side to the engine fire. I should know, I was there and saw it land at Heathrow.

  • @rl4795
    @rl4795 8 років тому +4

    EXCELLENT GUYS !! (AGAIN!) Nice production and execution ! Ochen
    Horosho!

  • @boav090109frmmia
    @boav090109frmmia 11 років тому +5

    Cool video...hey do you guys have any training videos on landing for the A320

  • @captainalpha4853
    @captainalpha4853 8 років тому +4

    is it possible for students pilots who study at BAA to reach their 1500HRS by type rating ( after took their ATPL ) ?

  • @jbreezy101
    @jbreezy101 11 років тому +2

    It certainly can contribute to the increased likelihood of the second situation occurring and/ or damage, so using reversers on the unaffected engine only is a good safety-first approach on some runways with some aircraft - watch brake use.
    The point is to stop the plane ASAP and evacuate if the engine cannot be extinguished.

    • @flynnwalker7415
      @flynnwalker7415 Рік тому

      I heard somebody say that when travelling at that speed, rather than assessing which lever to pull, it’s safer to use all potential reverser power and stop as soon as possible (It was an A330 in that context but i believe the same applies)

  • @0ki7o
    @0ki7o 3 роки тому +9

    Cool video! I'm looking forward to using this for training purposes.

    • @Jusiun
      @Jusiun 3 роки тому +2

      It clearly says not to use this for training purposes.

    • @FFmybest
      @FFmybest 3 роки тому

      @@Jusiun oh no. It's too late.

    • @spyjams08therobloxian66
      @spyjams08therobloxian66 3 роки тому +6

      @@Jusiun r/wooosh

    • @Jusiun
      @Jusiun 3 роки тому

      @@spyjams08therobloxian66 why?

    • @spyjams08therobloxian66
      @spyjams08therobloxian66 3 роки тому

      @@Jusiun Forgot a question mark, it appeared as if c21feelchannel was joking about using it for training purposes, however, he could be sincere.

  • @seanzal
    @seanzal 9 років тому +8

    Make sure the aircraft has come to a complete halt, set the parking brake, priority is to keep the aircraft under control. Then communicate, attention cabin crew at stations. You want to make sure the aircraft is not moving when you release the crew to carry out their duties rather than risk injury.....;-)

  • @Loobo2012
    @Loobo2012 11 років тому +1

    That's the airbus procedure. IF one reverser does not work. Then you still pull both the reverse thrust levers.

  • @ThePilotGuy
    @ThePilotGuy 11 років тому +3

    Very good! Very professional!

  • @jaffacake1578
    @jaffacake1578 11 років тому +1

    Using thrust reversers during an engine fire is risky and should not be done. It can cause a deflection of fire from the engines in the direction of the wings and fuselage. It can make the situation much worse and impede safe evacuation of passengers. this also depends on the wind direction but it's too risky to do, so yes, it is bad. That said, thrust reversers don't need to be used. When calculating stopping distance on a runway, it isn't usually factored in. :)

  • @deepasrivastava6390
    @deepasrivastava6390 2 роки тому +1

    JUST ONE QUESTION
    HOW CAN JUST YOU PUT THE AFFECTED ENGINE 2 ON REVERSE?

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian 11 місяців тому

      fire takes a while to destroy an engine, it will still work with less power in the seconds after the alarm goes off. and you want every little bit of breaking power you can muster during a rejected takeoff.

  • @EmzGles
    @EmzGles 11 років тому +1

    Thank you for all the answer, but the agent is not inside the core its in outside of the core when it is discharge so when you disconnect the auto pilot is it possible to restart the engine? if you know that the fire is distinguish?

  • @bassemarau4868
    @bassemarau4868 11 років тому +1

    Wow, that's so much fun to watch, thumbs up for you

  • @mariocardabollo3631
    @mariocardabollo3631 9 років тому +8

    In case of engine fire, can't they have a button that reads: Press in case of engine fire..

    • @Dushess
      @Dushess 7 років тому +1

      Better create button Fly to DST point

    • @KingdaToro
      @KingdaToro 7 років тому +18

      The big red FIRE button is exactly that.

  • @k1mgy
    @k1mgy 11 років тому +1

    flaps full down before evac?
    evac out the left side - fire in engine 2.

  • @giova240
    @giova240 11 років тому +1

    almost always that Pranas take control of an a320 or 737. Theres an emergency XD.

  • @Spaceflowerz
    @Spaceflowerz 11 років тому +2

    I love your videos. Thank you!!

  • @quentindelahaye1520
    @quentindelahaye1520 11 років тому +2

    This is the very great video and the all procedure are respected !!! thanks so much for this good jobs :) Continuous

  • @speedbird-777
    @speedbird-777 9 місяців тому

    If there's engine fire on both sides. Which slides would be preferred for evacuation? Do we look at the wind direction as well and use the exit on the windward side?

    • @user-ks6qn9qj4u
      @user-ks6qn9qj4u 9 місяців тому +1

      depends on the aircraft, but yeah look at the wind, and because most aircraft have one engine under each wing, and most flight depart into the wind, that would push the fire and smoke towards the back, meaning no fire at the front two exits. It would be the same with a crosswind, it just pushes the fire and smoke towards the sides. For example, if you were to be departing on a runway with heading 270, and the wind is coming from 181, you'd still use the front two exits, as the smoke and flames would go slightly more towards the back, even though the difference between using the front two exits and back two exits is just 2 degrees.

  • @MrPanda834
    @MrPanda834 11 років тому +1

    This is very good well done

  • @cysinkaaewoods55
    @cysinkaaewoods55 7 років тому +1

    Co pilot head is quite big must be very smart. He actually has long legs and his seat is moved back so his head is closer to camera

  • @guarachero123321
    @guarachero123321 10 років тому

    AMAZING VIDEO! I ADMIRE PRANAS!!!!

  • @DoomsYann
    @DoomsYann 11 років тому

    well its just because i've worked as a student of airplane maintenance and i had to inspect the batteries who supplied the emergency lights but that was on a BAE 146

  • @tobyjones4267
    @tobyjones4267 11 років тому

    Ideally, reverse thrust shouldn't be used at all under abnormal engine conditions, as if the engine fails while thrust is reversed the aircraft is at risk of veering off the runway.

  • @ReveredDead
    @ReveredDead 2 роки тому

    Nice! Gonna try this scenario in flight in FS2020.

  • @danthemango
    @danthemango 10 років тому +20

    Have you ever done a simulation flight without being told of the emergency?

    • @tonycutting5131
      @tonycutting5131 9 років тому +5

      On every routine sixth monthly check, little point otherwise

    • @danthemango
      @danthemango 9 років тому +3

      Thank you, I guess it was a given. I thought they were being tested I was a bit confused. "every routine sixth monthly check" do you mean tested monthly?

    • @tonycutting5131
      @tonycutting5131 9 років тому +4

      Daniel Guenther Every airline pilot is checked on his proficiency every sixth month simulated engine failure is always checked at least once each check

    • @Sukkulents_
      @Sukkulents_ 6 років тому

      It’s a standard procedure in training and checkups, to test you know how to diagnose any problem, you won’t get a warning in real life

  • @ctdesing
    @ctdesing 11 років тому

    well, the 737 doesn't have the ECAM, so you have to refer to the Quick Reference Handbook for checklist. After that, everything is the same; with a different presentation.

  • @kayemilson0108
    @kayemilson0108 11 років тому

    Great video, as per usual.

  • @miguelgrilo836
    @miguelgrilo836 11 років тому

    It's due to the fact that there's not enough time to check which one's on fire and then correct for it (it's easy to choose the wrong one!).

  • @jaffacake1578
    @jaffacake1578 11 років тому

    Turning off the batteries entirely would prevent the function of systems that aid in the evacuation process, such as emergency strip floor lighting. The batteries don't present as a hazard, APUs and engines are usually shut down, but batteries are left running. (well, unless it's a 7late7 nightmareliner) ;)

  • @adrianprego6253
    @adrianprego6253 11 років тому

    Pranas you would be a god pilot

  • @AAron-fc2kn
    @AAron-fc2kn 7 років тому +1

    I have no idea why i watched this. I now know what happens if a fire occurs before V1.

  • @EmzGles
    @EmzGles 11 років тому

    But if you press in the Fire agent or put back the press to discharge the agent... all valve will be operative again...

  • @mvaldman2001
    @mvaldman2001 4 роки тому +2

    Off the get-go: the fire is not "out" until it is visually confirmed by either the fire marshal or the tower. Also, the use of above idle Reverse Thrust is not a good idea with a suspected engine fire, especially at low speeds , and the aircraft will stop on the remaining runway without its use (Brakes only). And last but not least, in Scenario 1, sitting on the runway attacking subsequential ECAMs makes very little sense and is a waste of time...

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 3 роки тому +1

      Always nice to hear utter nonsense from a know nothing. Thanks.

  • @henrywallace3563
    @henrywallace3563 4 роки тому +1

    I'm gonna use this video for training purposes

    • @Jusiun
      @Jusiun 3 роки тому

      It clearly says not to use this for training purposes.

    • @henrywallace3563
      @henrywallace3563 3 роки тому

      @@Jusiun that's the joke

    • @Jusiun
      @Jusiun 3 роки тому

      @@henrywallace3563 ok

  • @DraconicMaker
    @DraconicMaker 3 роки тому

    What’s the difference between Agent 1 and Agent 2? Isn’t 1 and 2 during a fire? And agent 2 Is only for when the engine is damage?

    • @datnotme6284
      @datnotme6284 3 роки тому +1

      It's just two separate extinguisher bottles. With a fire, you just want all in. In flight, if I remember correctly, you release them with time in between so that the second one finishes off what might have relighted. You only release one for damage to be sure. And if you actually still need it, there is one left for later on. But the less precautionary extinguisher you discharge the more thankful the ground crew will be as it created a mess! :D

  • @sumaket
    @sumaket 7 років тому

    first agent discharged immedialty..i get it...but second ? it's there in case you still have a fire after 30s usually ? why is the Sop this way ? any logical factors involved in this ?

    • @KDEDflyr55
      @KDEDflyr55 6 років тому

      You’d want to pop both bottles right away to maximize the amount of halon in the cowling. The ECAM does direct you to wait 30sec before discharging bottle 2 if in flight, however. But there’s little to no airflow in the cowling when stopped on the runway.

  • @aliabbasdhalla8213
    @aliabbasdhalla8213 7 років тому +1

    is it lightning or

  • @milangelaSequera
    @milangelaSequera 2 роки тому

    Hola ¿qué significa flota ART?

  • @DoomsYann
    @DoomsYann 11 років тому

    i think that the emergency lights have there own sorce of energy and are not fed from the batteries but its possible.

  • @Loobo2012
    @Loobo2012 11 років тому

    Airbus changed the procedure because a plane landed with only 1 reverser working. Then it skidded of the runway and nearly killed all the passenger on board. The old procedure was to only pull the reverser back that is working but after the crash airbus changed the procedure to prevent this from ever happening again.

  • @EmzGles
    @EmzGles 11 років тому

    can I ask? is it possible to restart the engine in flight if the two agent has been discharge? what are the logic of the engine in cfm after engine fire?

  • @Barani00000
    @Barani00000 6 років тому

    Before turning the engine master, the thrust lever should be turned to idle right?

    • @rmstitanica3204
      @rmstitanica3204 5 років тому +1

      Yep, otherwise the plane would move forward automatically

  • @Peregrinus-008
    @Peregrinus-008 10 років тому +2

    Bolek and Lolek !

  • @Republic3D
    @Republic3D 11 років тому

    Maybe stupid question, but why evacuate on both sides? Isnt the left side best if there is a fire on the right?

    • @banyardl1
      @banyardl1 5 років тому

      R3D the cabin crew will control the evacuation procedure and would have prevented people using the right hand side in a real life situation

  • @jasper_north
    @jasper_north 2 роки тому

    Why wait 30 seconds... FCOM says this?

  • @FoxtrotSierra_FL410
    @FoxtrotSierra_FL410 11 років тому

    The Boeing Procedures are a lot different than the ones showed here. Isn't it, BAA??

  • @wademullis7377
    @wademullis7377 3 роки тому

    Very interesting.

  • @1919amunt
    @1919amunt 10 років тому +1

    Why do you discharge both agents at the same time and don't allow only one to do the job? you may be wasting one bottle and they are not cheap.

    • @hayhay7789
      @hayhay7789 10 років тому +1

      Doesn't hurt to make sure.

  •  2 роки тому

    Thanks. 🙏

  • @fuadfareed6628
    @fuadfareed6628 2 роки тому

    Great...

  • @boradehawker400a4
    @boradehawker400a4 Рік тому

    Apply reverse on engine Fire? In afected engine? Hummm

  • @Zerusch
    @Zerusch 3 роки тому

    Pretty great example of how it's not done properly 😄👍

  • @Airbus_a320_lovers
    @Airbus_a320_lovers 5 років тому

    If is possible we evaluate from the left side?! 6:25

  • @fotisaiki
    @fotisaiki 9 років тому

    During your procedures you are not verify with the guy next to you when you starting pressing switches? You just extinguishing right away with out a confirmation? Why ?

    • @ashtonmark24
      @ashtonmark24 8 років тому

      +fotisaiki For a fire on the ground there is no requirement to confirm selection of guarded switches, the priority in this case is getting the aircraft safe. In the air clearly shutting down the wrong engine can be catastrophic so guarded switches are all confirmed before action...

    • @fotisaiki
      @fotisaiki 8 років тому

      ***** All right thanks. Every aircraft and company has their own policy I guess...Fly safe :)

    • @ashtonmark24
      @ashtonmark24 8 років тому

      +fotisaiki Some airlines may perhaps differ but the Airbus way is as I stated - www.pprune.org/tech-log/544754-airbus-ecam-actions-ground.html
      A330 FCTM - AO-020 TASKSHARING IN CASE OF EMERGENCY EVACUATION - 'When applying the EMERGENCY EVACUATION procedure, the F/O can select the engine master OFF and push the fire pb, without any confirmation from the Captain'

    • @fotisaiki
      @fotisaiki 8 років тому

      I was just curious. I am an Embraer guy my self :) Thanks for the reply though !!! Happy landings, safe flights !!

  • @sternmeganick1
    @sternmeganick1 11 років тому

    Can you do the same video with a 737?

  • @vasiljevic
    @vasiljevic 11 років тому

    using reverse thrust on a engine that is on fire??? isnt hat bad?

  • @captmiller22
    @captmiller22 9 років тому

    Hi, I've got a stupid question.
    What does this mean: "50 percent and one"? (01:46)
    It appears in this video but also in FSX e.g..
    thanks so far.

    • @ryanch94
      @ryanch94 9 років тому +4

      captmiller22 He's saying 50% N1. N1 is the status of the large engine fan. You can see on the display at the top between the engine indicators it says 'N1' with a '%' symbol underneath

    • @captmiller22
      @captmiller22 9 років тому

      ryanch94
      Now it's clear to me - big thx.

    • @Shoelaces13
      @Shoelaces13 8 років тому +1

      He says 50% N1 when both engines are set at that thrust setting. It is recommended that the power is set at 50% and stabilized before advancing them to take off power as this ensures that there is no asymmetric thrust - hence easier to stay straight on the runway.

  • @duk2k
    @duk2k 2 роки тому

    Reverse when engine fire?!

  • @stevea.8636
    @stevea.8636 11 років тому

    Well thought the Aircrafts wing is protected against fire for a short time so ther is no major problem.

  • @988Rob
    @988Rob 10 років тому

    is there no need to tell the crew NOT to use the overwing exit on the right hand side? engine is still burning...

    • @PikalaxALT
      @PikalaxALT 10 років тому +1

      I'm sure that by that point, the cabin crew has seen the flames and has made the independent decision not to use the exits on the right hand side of the aircraft.

  • @SelimMustafa
    @SelimMustafa 11 років тому

    Cool!

  • @farismufti
    @farismufti 11 років тому

    I know man!! I meant so the same engine fires thing on the 737

  • @Colaeroimages
    @Colaeroimages 11 років тому

    What's the problem? Engine is on fire but it's working. Your job at that moment is to stop the aircraft not to take care of an already messed up engine

  • @brianbenard2816
    @brianbenard2816 8 років тому

    ops my lovery incredible machine A320

  • @nicamssy
    @nicamssy 11 років тому

    3 left and 3 right could not be used

  • @tomtomairline5409
    @tomtomairline5409 6 років тому

    nice

  • @mihaisusin3387
    @mihaisusin3387 Рік тому

    You dont have to know that ur going to have an engine fire. No one is going to tell u that ur going to have an engine fire in real life.

    • @Cozy186
      @Cozy186 11 місяців тому

      Thats not the point, its to know how to solve an engine fire.

  • @azmimohdhasim6719
    @azmimohdhasim6719 11 років тому

    Thumb up video!

  • @SimoNedelchev
    @SimoNedelchev 11 років тому

    Borat is a pilot!!!

  • @MURDYCAP232
    @MURDYCAP232 11 років тому +1

    Captain evacuated before his first officer. Fail!

  • @MURDYCAP232
    @MURDYCAP232 11 років тому

    Probably not best to exit left after a #2 engine fire.

  • @meerkatandpug
    @meerkatandpug 8 років тому

    Are there any circumstances where a large passenger aircraft (eg B777 or A330) about two thirds full of passengers, can take off with no flaps, no leading edge slats extended..a completely clean wing?

    • @Einstein-eq7tc
      @Einstein-eq7tc 8 років тому

      Obviously, but they will need to achieve a higher speed a takeoff which means they need a longer runway. The assimetrical airfoil on the wing makes it possible for at a completely level flight certain amount of lift to be produced by the formula (L=1/2 P V^2 S C^L).

    • @meerkatandpug
      @meerkatandpug 8 років тому

      2015newyear Cheers, the reason I ask is because I was on an A330 and was watching for the slats/leading edge to come out, but they never did. My palms were sweating as the pilot applied full thrust..

    • @speedbird1598
      @speedbird1598 8 років тому

      +John Smith I think the slats were lowered, you just did not see

    • @meerkatandpug
      @meerkatandpug 8 років тому

      Speedbird Trust me I was looking, and listening. That sound is very distinctive..

    • @speedbird1598
      @speedbird1598 8 років тому +1

      Well in that case you are typing this from heaven :P (I don't think hell has wifi...)

  • @alainsanchez9808
    @alainsanchez9808 8 років тому +3

    U need to study guys!

  • @a.nelprober4971
    @a.nelprober4971 2 роки тому

    Fire still burning starboard side and you didn't even tell cabin which exists to use lol

  • @Treadstone7
    @Treadstone7 11 років тому

    Flaps were at first notch, not zero

  • @richygambs321
    @richygambs321 11 років тому

    why so?

  • @farismufti
    @farismufti 11 років тому

    I requested this video

  • @lockstocknl
    @lockstocknl 11 років тому

    No time to make that assessment, the engine is f-cked anyway. Also, if that reverser doesn't work it's not a biggy anyway, and if it does work you get some extra stopping power.

  • @Boeing737800MAX
    @Boeing737800MAX 11 років тому +2

    "We one. We are. We two." :D

  • @marcox2937
    @marcox2937 Рік тому

    This is emergency EVACUATE EVACUATE EVACUATE

  • @andreischannel2308
    @andreischannel2308 20 днів тому

    Fire one engine fire 2 engine fire tree engine

  • @MarcoMustermannGaming
    @MarcoMustermannGaming 11 років тому

    There is now other Chance to stop the plane at this Speed. But of course it is bad.

  • @astachr680
    @astachr680 11 років тому

    CooL