I wonder if even at that speed, trying to push the nose fully down would have made any difference to the wheel grip? Would be interesting seeing a comparison
@@NinthChevronnah even with full nose-down controls (and some head-wind on the ground to make the elevators a little bit effective) you might get the nose to pitch down 1 or 2 degrees in an extreme case, but the wings are still creating lift, especially with flaps extended. To get down force you'd need to have the nose pitched down to like -7 degrees, i.e. remove the entire nose wheel and strut 🤷♂️
I too thought the aircraft seemed too low. The aviation world says intentional spins should not be entered at less than 4000 ft above ground level and recovery should be made no later than 2500 ft AGL.
My boy in the Jet2 737 definitely feeling my Microsoft flight Simulator Leeds Bradford Departure VIBES. 😂 Whatever works my guy..... Slllliiiidddeeeee..... 🎉
Omg, the whine of those engines at 2:15 . I've heard the Eurocopter working hard IRL, cause it's our air ambulance in the UK (The best sound ever when you're in trouble).
In the US? If it was in the US, it wasn’t school policy. The FAA says no spin training, unless you are in trying to become a Certified flight instructor.
@@richardhingston6073 I’m so sorry to hear that. That’s probably why the FAA also banned it. I started my training in 1992 and it was already banned. But not for CFI training. A CFI had to be trained to get out of a spin. It wasn’t on the check ride though, just part of the curriculum. Man, I can’t believe you know 2 people. That’s a hard one man.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183it is not banned by the FAA, you just have to wear parachutes if your not going for a spin endorsement, and (i think) you can't go for a spin endorsement unless you're going for CFI. But short version is not banned but need parachutes.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 or aerobatic training, the 152 is the "Aerobat" version. And as for knowing people that have perished in civil aviation... don't ask me how many I know, I don't want to count them... the first I can remember was when I was about 16. She was a good friend, 19 doing glider towing. Ended up with the tow-rope wrapped around the tail on take off when the glider buttoned off for some reason when the rope was slack... she stalled straight into the ground. I was there at the time... still miss and think about her nearly 40 years later. Because my parents ran a flight school, we got to know a lot of young pilots, and many took dangerous/risky work to get their hours up. Helicopters also a little higher risk of course. That said, knowing 2 that went the same way is awful. I didn't realise the 150 could get in that much trouble... those things are so light, you would think they would just about float.
1:13 spin recovery NEVER use aileron inputs to counter a spin, you make it worse. Luckily the 152 is so stable that even a touch of opposite rudder will fix the spin state.
Very true. I was very early on in my training then. But aileron should be neutral, however we were trying to spin the plane, and as you said it’s very stable to took some work to get it there. Thanks for the feedback.
Never fly that airline……under any circumstance. I can’t even begin to tell you how little the individual at the controls knows. This is down right terrifying to see.
atlease its not as bad as something like space travel, and you can always just come back home. still definitely gut wrenching watching the pilots fly through windshear though 😬
Second clip is a 737 dealing with high cross-winds during a landing attempt. Had it been wind-shear the aircraft would have slammed into the ground; instead it simply flew away.
I see people putting up "3 Minutes of Aviation" videos ... trying to steal your followers. If it don't say "Lucaas", I ain't clicking. Thanks for your work.
Give that pilot a breathalyzer test. The old standard was taxi no faster than a man can walk. That's not required, but I see people taxiing at twenty knots these days which is ridiculous.
@@u2bear377 Of course and neither is twenty knots which I see all the time at KCMA from the TBM crowd. Funny we had one run off the taxiway and get stuck in the grass a few months ago. I don't think it was speed with him but rather I think he was on something. Two pilots in the cockpit too. On an aircraft carrier you are under positive control of taxi directors 100% of the time. Yes, about walking speed. Cheers!
So many nose wheel skids coming up lately. Do the pilots not realize that their enthusiastic tillering is way beyond the optimal slip angle? Good thing the 777 rejected early. 36L at Schiphol entails some backtracking otherwise. Well, we didn’t get to see the exit, but it seems reasonable.
Correct me if I'm wrong (@ 1.14) but I thought you turn into a spin to pull out of it. He was in a left hand spin but appears to have put in right aileron ??
You shouldn't use aileron at all in spin recovery. Hold the yoke neutral and apply full opposite rudder to stop the spin, then elevator down to break the stall. You might be thinking of a spiral dive? To recover from that is power idle, roll wings level then pull up.
My boy's really squeezing the dye out of the control wheel in that Cessna spin and ailerons should be held flat and rotation and level with rudder only please.
@@TheAnxiousPilotthe 152 is a sweet ole pussycat in a spin if you're in the cg and weight limits, rigged correctly and the frame is solid. Keep those ailerons level in something else it could exacerbate the spin and/or delay recovery. Pull and hold full back elevator, kick rudder and enjoy the view as the world goes round. Every type has it's foibles but a 152 stops spinning the second you release rudder input. Others will require full opposite rudder and wait for awhile. Take some aerobatics with a top notch instructor, it'll make anyone a better more confident pilot.
@@MeppyMan flaps and gear. With a windshear escape maneuver, you don’t change configuration. With a go around you go to go around flap setting and raise the gear. But this video wasn’t long enough. When people decide to go around last second, I tend to delay the flaps and gear a little bit.
Its so amazing that plane spotters do not let go of any single happening 😂
Flying is so safe that any little thing is noteworthy now
@@ninjalectualxtrue
You could tell that Jet2 pilot was probably a BMW driver 😂😂😂
Definitely. And I bet it’s a White BMW
Did not turn its blinkers on?
All MSupra ability
No - BM drivers only know oversteer.
Or a WRX driver
Bro trynna Drift😭😭💀💀
"After turning left you'll handle this plane, Imma having constipation rn SORRY RIGHT"
understeer...little bit more front wing should fix
I wonder if even at that speed, trying to push the nose fully down would have made any difference to the wheel grip? Would be interesting seeing a comparison
@@NinthChevronnah even with full nose-down controls (and some head-wind on the ground to make the elevators a little bit effective) you might get the nose to pitch down 1 or 2 degrees in an extreme case, but the wings are still creating lift, especially with flaps extended. To get down force you'd need to have the nose pitched down to like -7 degrees, i.e. remove the entire nose wheel and strut 🤷♂️
@@SLGY he'll try exactly what you recommended, next time around.
1:00 Its always United, literally sounded like a fighter jet😂
The first clip straight otta Tokyo Drift!!
More like Tokyo understeer 😅
@@waitotong9590 pilot tried just steering harder like that was gonna fix it
Asphalt 9 lol
Unluckily everyone was iced.
You’re alive!
Didn’t expect you to be here! Haven’t seen you in years!
I remember the first time that I did a spin recovery. I was very close to a Code Brown.
Yes I think I slightly passed out
First pilot: Chitty chitty bang bang
Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about but that spin recovery training seemed like it was being done a little too low in altitude.
Same here
I too thought the aircraft seemed too low. The aviation world says intentional spins should not be entered at less than 4000 ft above ground level and recovery should be made no later than 2500 ft AGL.
Well from the video he began the manoeuvre at 4500 and had it recovered by about 3800.
Agree. The first thing I thought when he rolled into the spin.
@@craiggregory1175 At least someone here can correctly read an alitmiter.
My boy in the Jet2 737 definitely feeling my Microsoft flight Simulator Leeds Bradford Departure VIBES. 😂 Whatever works my guy..... Slllliiiidddeeeee..... 🎉
Omg, the whine of those engines at 2:15 . I've heard the Eurocopter working hard IRL, cause it's our air ambulance in the UK (The best sound ever when you're in trouble).
trained in a C-150 and school policy was no spin training. had some anyway from the instructor.
In the US? If it was in the US, it wasn’t school policy. The FAA says no spin training, unless you are in trying to become a Certified flight instructor.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 South Africa says no spin training, although I had it before the ban. I lost two friends in a C150 flat spin.
@@richardhingston6073 I’m so sorry to hear that. That’s probably why the FAA also banned it. I started my training in 1992 and it was already banned. But not for CFI training. A CFI had to be trained to get out of a spin. It wasn’t on the check ride though, just part of the curriculum.
Man, I can’t believe you know 2 people. That’s a hard one man.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183it is not banned by the FAA, you just have to wear parachutes if your not going for a spin endorsement, and (i think) you can't go for a spin endorsement unless you're going for CFI. But short version is not banned but need parachutes.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 or aerobatic training, the 152 is the "Aerobat" version.
And as for knowing people that have perished in civil aviation... don't ask me how many I know, I don't want to count them... the first I can remember was when I was about 16. She was a good friend, 19 doing glider towing. Ended up with the tow-rope wrapped around the tail on take off when the glider buttoned off for some reason when the rope was slack... she stalled straight into the ground. I was there at the time... still miss and think about her nearly 40 years later.
Because my parents ran a flight school, we got to know a lot of young pilots, and many took dangerous/risky work to get their hours up. Helicopters also a little higher risk of course.
That said, knowing 2 that went the same way is awful. I didn't realise the 150 could get in that much trouble... those things are so light, you would think they would just about float.
0:14, that looks above the allowable side load for the nose leg. Lucky it didn't shear, that should be reportable for a check.
The tire obviously didn’t have the grip to get a lot of side load. 🙄
Eurocopter had "Fortunate Son" playing full volume in-ear.
Giggity!
Good one.
1:13 spin recovery NEVER use aileron inputs to counter a spin, you make it worse.
Luckily the 152 is so stable that even a touch of opposite rudder will fix the spin state.
Very true. I was very early on in my training then. But aileron should be neutral, however we were trying to spin the plane, and as you said it’s very stable to took some work to get it there. Thanks for the feedback.
The pilot in the Cessna must have been afraid as ever for a split second 😂
When an airliner skids, it’s actually called scrubbing. So its nose wheel was scrubbing!
Never fly that airline……under any circumstance. I can’t even begin to tell you how little the individual at the controls knows. This is down right terrifying to see.
The Jet 2one?? We have anxiety here which one is itt
@@SM-ce1uy Yes the first clip……It is so unbelievably bad…..on every level. The individual at the controls shouldn’t even be permitted as a passenger.
Man vdeos like these always reminds me how scary flying truly is🫠
atlease its not as bad as something like space travel, and you can always just come back home. still definitely gut wrenching watching the pilots fly through windshear though 😬
0:09 Fast And Furious writers be like "Write this down. WRITE THIS DOWN ! "
Second clip is a 737 dealing with high cross-winds during a landing attempt. Had it been wind-shear the aircraft would have slammed into the ground; instead it simply flew away.
Funny looking 737.
@@stephenholland5930 Quite right, my misprint. It is a 767. Apologies, but still not wind-shear.
Don’t make sharp turns with the tiller at more than 10 kts. Same as every Boeing
And the solution for understeer is *less* steering angle, not more
On Flight Simulator it can be pretty tricky to get the right throttle power for taxi-ing. Definitely takes some practice.
Don't they have a setting in real life that sticks to a speed for the taxing?
The 767 did butter on the runway, but the pilots said, “Nope, we’re going around!” 😂
2:20 Soviet helicopter Kamov ka26 makes the same manoeuvring during spraying fields on daily basis ;)
The brother thought that his off-road tire was suitable for leaving the runway. ☠️
I see people putting up "3 Minutes of Aviation" videos ... trying to steal your followers.
If it don't say "Lucaas", I ain't clicking. Thanks for your work.
First video: Some pilots are always in a hurry. 🤦🤦🤦
152 pilot trys banking out of his spin and still uploads it 😂
“Was Boeings fault” “they should ground them all for being this unsafe”
I was hoping the entire time that the United pilots go around. Respect.
And after that he still wants to start?!😧
1st clip...Definitely a drift racer 😂👍
Give that pilot a breathalyzer test. The old standard was taxi no faster than a man can walk. That's not required, but I see people taxiing at twenty knots these days which is ridiculous.
It may be a little late for a breathalyzer. He’s probably not drunk anymore.
A man walks at 5 km/h.
Going from the terminal to the end of the runway would take half an hour.
@@u2bear377 Old saying I believe from Navy Pilot training.
@@scottw5315 So on an aircraft carrier it might be reasonable.
In an airfield it's not.
@@u2bear377 Of course and neither is twenty knots which I see all the time at KCMA from the TBM crowd. Funny we had one run off the taxiway and get stuck in the grass a few months ago. I don't think it was speed with him but rather I think he was on something. Two pilots in the cockpit too. On an aircraft carrier you are under positive control of taxi directors 100% of the time. Yes, about walking speed. Cheers!
Nah, that Jet2 pilot must be listening to the Tokyo Drift 💀
you see, if the Jet2 had split the throttles it problably would have been another interesting ending
ATC : I said expedite take off, not expedite right turn
The pilot in the Cessna was gripping the control column as though his life depended on it.
Bro been practicing Tokyo drifting on the simulator
Nice video
2:10 Who let Maverick fly this thing?
That 152 pilot had a death grip on that yoke....as I would too!
I did indeed!
Ther skip because the out board engine needs a little throttle. Or in this case the inboard, less.
I thought you were about to say the 767 hit puberty
So many nose wheel skids coming up lately. Do the pilots not realize that their enthusiastic tillering is way beyond the optimal slip angle?
Good thing the 777 rejected early. 36L at Schiphol entails some backtracking otherwise. Well, we didn’t get to see the exit, but it seems reasonable.
Where is that Newcastle?
Great video brother from the imperial county California 👍🇺🇲
1:56 beautiful and typical water sprays at Schiphol…
Why was he in such a rush lol. That was a high taxi speed 😂
aircraft on late finals and needing to take off quickly... pretty unprofessional in my view. My guess is a convo was had with the chief pilot.
JET2-Pilot: Let´s go, we have to start immediately. Oh shit, runway is directly on the right hand. 😂
Eurocopter pilot was going:
"WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!"
Stroll must have been piloting the Jet2, too much understeer.😅
I really enjoyed watching the drift at LBA, it was cool.
Looks like me taxiing in Flight Sim
The J2 trainers will be apoplectic seeing that - then again, it might be one of them on their own hallowed turf.
Correct me if I'm wrong (@ 1.14) but I thought you turn into a spin to pull out of it. He was in a left hand spin but appears to have put in right aileron ??
You shouldn't use aileron at all in spin recovery. Hold the yoke neutral and apply full opposite rudder to stop the spin, then elevator down to break the stall.
You might be thinking of a spiral dive? To recover from that is power idle, roll wings level then pull up.
1st pilot wanted to go to Tokyo lol
I'm sure the engineer who has to inspect that wheel isn't going to be happy with that pilot. Planes don't qualify for Tokyo Drift.
He was ice- skating!
I wonder if he enjoyed the 'Tea and biscuits' with the chief pilot ............
737.... Love it ❤❤❤
Drifting, the new way to fly... :D
Was the jet2 at leeds
Is that a jet 2 737-600 in austrailia
Why didn't the plane that wind sheared retract its wheels?
Show off’s….no matter what the metal around them is always right it off..and themselves too.
B767 hit windshear???? Looks more like plain old turbulence.
Cool les vidéos
first time seeing a plane understeer
Jet2 pilots challenging Southwest to see who can taxi faster
bro understeered a plane
First clips from leeds/bradford airport my home airport, jet2 are based at LBA.
last clip - been there, watch it from other side
Ops wrong lever….
Jet2 pilot definitely from Bradford
Bro at the start tried a ptfs takeoff
He was on a promise the first one
0:10 deja vu...😂
Captains usually does that crap. Tryina win the time
0:10 Who among us pilots hasn't made that mistake before?? Am I right? 😆
I never have in over 3 decades.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I’m happy for you, but it was just a joke guy.
haven’t watched this in ages…
Lucaas, when are you going to play GTA 5?
That was good times 😅
Jet2 pilot is a RYANAIR pilot 😂😂😂
Those nose wheels must take a pounding 😮
My boy's really squeezing the dye out of the control wheel in that Cessna spin and ailerons should be held flat and rotation and level with rudder only please.
I had a death grip for sure
@@TheAnxiousPilotthe 152 is a sweet ole pussycat in a spin if you're in the cg and weight limits, rigged correctly and the frame is solid. Keep those ailerons level in something else it could exacerbate the spin and/or delay recovery. Pull and hold full back elevator, kick rudder and enjoy the view as the world goes round. Every type has it's foibles but a 152 stops spinning the second you release rudder input. Others will require full opposite rudder and wait for awhile. Take some aerobatics with a top notch instructor, it'll make anyone a better more confident pilot.
PLANE DRIFTOOO!!!
I'd bet that nose gear needed repair work after that.
No it won’t.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 chief pilot might have a word though right? :D
@@MeppyMan oh absolutely, I’ve got no doubt he or she will be talked to.
Not everything is wind shear. Gusty conditions or wake turbulence is not wind shear.
Yeah was wondering about that. How easy is it to spot the wind shear escape over a normal go around from the outside?
@@MeppyMan flaps and gear. With a windshear escape maneuver, you don’t change configuration. With a go around you go to go around flap setting and raise the gear. But this video wasn’t long enough. When people decide to go around last second, I tend to delay the flaps and gear a little bit.
VTEC just kicked in
Cheers
Jet2: cristal pilots. Fired.
He was drifting
The plane tryna be like a supra and trna drift
What is JET 2 even about bro
Wait til they come out with JET3
Clearly the pilot drives an Audi with all that dreary under steer.
Good 👍
Pilot was a drifter
Too early / too late, how would you even be able to judge? Are you a pilot?
He wasn't exactly wrong. They were taxiing too fast.
Jet2 pilot was tryna drift