In spite of all the know-it-alls here (not that they are ignorant ) I always enjoy your show. You never brag, but on the other hand you are never afraid of jumping into deep water and rather gather the necessary insights while you are at it. This is but one of the reasons I always learn something from your vids. Kudos!
Compression test first. Once the head is off lap in the valves. Always re adjust the valve clearances. Never ever use metal to metal like you did removing the head, use a block of hardwood and get some wd40 down the threads.
Lap in the valves, replace the seals, knurl the guides....so much should have been done that's going to bite them later. Yeah, I cringed at the chisel as well....
Other may have said it. Should have reconditioned the valves. Lap and swap the valve oil seals. The gasket kit had them sat there. Then regardless of of if may be ok should always check the valve clearance and lash. Changes the case filters and breathers. Check the inlet manifold for sludge and clean incase it is ingesting oil from a breather. You can do it all by hand so the only tools needed is a valve spring compressor, a lapping tool and valve bedding paste. Plenty of tutorials on youtube to point out how it is done would recon the injectors too by pulling them and sending them for a clean. (not a job for armatures) don't use metal to metal one scratch is enough to mess the block or head face
Wasting your breath trying to explain anything, I dropped subs to this channel he makes so many simple mistakes, never listens, does it wrong and refuses to acknowledge anyone who corrects him, was interesting at first, but it's sad to see so many mistakes over and over.
One or a couple of fuel injectors is causing the white smoke while under pressure. Remove them and have them cleaned properly. You may want to try to clean them yourself. Great video as usual.
I was thinking the exact same thing that an injector was fouled and had a bad spray pattern. On top of that, are you sure the thermostat isn’t in upside down? I’m not sure but I would think the big side with the spring should be on the hot side which is the engine side not the tank side. Someone please correct me if I’m incorrect in my thinking.
Engine room is looking good im excited to see the day you paint and restore the body of the boat and at least you know the top of the engine has been rebuilt it'll be something you can look back and laugh at
I knew it was an oil issue... I Kno because I have a bad habbit of over filling things I was frequently call puff cuz of the white smoke following me into the docks.. All the old timers call me olive oil.. 😂!! One of the old timers(The one who named me Olive Oil)came over an said "let's check your engine.Show me your pre sail check list!" So every time I add a lil bit of oil ... Captain said so did it need oil? I said "no but I just wanna be safe .. I don't wanna run low..!" He said honey your drowning your engine with fluids.... It was my 1st time really learned cuz he watched me an showed me when I hadn't a clue... I miss my old timers an my old vessel.... I loved watching you guys work on your engine. It's all looking good... Your 1st vessel is wonderful...!! Thanks for sharing your life with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
Usually white smoke means you are burning diesel and oil. It may be because exces of oil presure and in the worth case failure in the rings qho let pass oil into de cilinders. Hope that in this case have been the first. Thanks for your videos.
I run a diesel additive all the time . Keeps the injectors clean. Don't for to re tighten the head after the engine has been run for a few hours your manual should give you information about this. I would also check the valve clearances when you have the rocker cover off. If the settings/gaps are too large the valves don't open fully and can be damaged and the engine doesn'trun as well as it could. The other thing is that the dimension between the cam followers and the rocker arms may have changed with the new gasket as the old one may have been compressed over the years. The issue of smoke can be caused by the over fill of oil. I enjoy you videos thank you for taking the time to make them. J
Considering the white smoke (unburned diesel or the pump set too early) and how the engine shook at higher revs, my money is on bad / clogged injectors. I think the thing that helped the most in your case was the injectorcleaner in the diesel. I would recommend injector renovation and checking the pump setting.
You will probably find the white smoke was due to an excess of engine oil. I`ve heard of this problem several times before, deisel oil mixed with engine oil burns with white smoke, it`s caused by excessive pressure in the crankcase causing blow by, meaning the oil being forced up beside the pistons. The white smoke would have stopped eventually when enough had blown by, however, that in itself can cause problems if not tackled quick enough.
i think if theres much blow my by the piston rings or something. the pistons should me covered by oil. there was none. you should take intake mainfold off and look if theres oil. and you should check the valve clearances soon coz u chance the head gasket. but nice to see there no more white smoke. take care.
remove the cylinder head, turn it upside down. pour gasoline in top of each cylinder. See if any valve leaks. or pour gasoline into exhaust and intake ports to check for valve leaks. reseat the valves if any leaks. I would also check valve guides and valve seals. I suspect it is a worn valve guide and / or valve seal causing engine oil entering into combustion chamber.
If there is excess oil, and it begins to burn in the cylinders it will begin to run-away on "full throttle" and may even over rev. so it's probably not due to excess oil.
I really enjoy watching your videos, inspired me to buy myself a boat also, well greetings from the island of Aruba the Caribbean. Soon moving to Europe....
I believe it was the overfill of oil. The smoke was burning oil. At first I thought it was the Valve stems and/or valve stem seals. When the Valve stem guides wear and the seals get old, oil will come into the combustion chamber, causing the ugly burning old smoke. However, having too much oil in the crank case will cause the to ‘blow by’ the piston rings, especially at high RPMs.
As a retired marine engineer I cannot believe that you did not check the valve clearances…it is a must after the rockers have been removed.also I would have ground in the valves while the head was off...BUT I would have checked the injectors before I did anything else.cheers Roly 🇬🇧.
Ring are worn out. With the overfull oil it allowed oil to push up threw the oil rings creating the smoke.. white smoke is always oil burning. Black is to fuel problems.
Undoing the 4 bolts at the top of the injectors will do absolutely nithing in bleeding the air to help it start faster. They are the backleak/return bolts so you could bleed air from there forever and it will never get to the high pressure side of the inhector nozzle. Bleed the filter, possibly open bleed screw on the mechanical governor injector pump then crack open each injector pipe, crank the engine until air is purged, tighten the nuts and engine will fire up way quicker than it has been. Saves battery and starter. 4236 Perkins are a very very good engine.
Before stripping down an engine determine if that is needed. Start with a compression, or better yet a leak down test. While at it pressure test the cooling system, look at your water cooled exhaust system, check for corrosion and leaks. Sea water can get hot enough to make steam. One system I saw had raw sea water seeping through a small crack in the exhaust manifold, it turned to steam and created 'smoke'. Check your fuel ( take a sample and really LOOK at it), fuel quality varies from marina to marina. It's not always diesel that is being pumped into your tank. I've seen old cooking oil added at some places. Check the tanks, delivery lines, water separator and filters. Marine fuel tanks can get very dirty. Check you fuel injectors, for pressure, delivery rate and spray pattern. Many diesels have clogged injectors and a simple clean makes a big difference. Your engine may need cleaned/rebuilt injectors instead of removing the head. If you remove the head you may as well overhaul it. Remove and re-seat the valves, replace valve seals etc. You've already bought all the bits with the head gasket. Good vids.
is amazing how great editing makes this job look so simple, but Im sure , all of us mechanics out there who are watching this know the real deal, good job though,, looks great on video
good job getting the head off and replacing the gasket. when i did a similar job, it was recommended that we check to see. how flat the head was and machine it if necessary. i agree with the others about the valve lash.
It really was the oil. White smoke is a sing of a bad ratio of gas/oil. Nevertheless don´t think for a second you wasted your time. That maintenance was a great thing to do and will give you piece of mind for some years ahead. Very impressed as well with the good conditions of the motor, just incredible how well it looks inside. Thanks for your videos mate!
Some good advice below that is worthy of consideration. My advice is to urgently check the valve clearances as the new head gasket might be a different thickness to the old one and this will directly change the clearances of all of the valves. If this is the case, valves might be staying open or performance of the engine might be degraded. Either way, checking adjusting the valves on this engine is a 10 minute job.
Gday Crew,, When you removed the cyl head you should have replaced valve stem seals & adjusted the valve clearences ... Injectors ,can cause smoke if they are dirty or leak ,or need resetting ,also fuel sould be turned off after use (to stop syphon or back flo ). A poorly timed fuel pump can cause smoke too, However , if you had a high.oil level in engine sump ,, iit looks like you may have loose leaking , or dirty injectors dripping fuel causing lube oil dilution , over filling the sump . Also check fuel tank for water contamination, from deck filling point. Cheap injector pump cleaning kits are on ebay . Respect
I am not sure if said already but in a tractor you will get white smoke when you have a hole in your cylinder wall, pressure test. We would just replace the cylinder sleeve (pack)
For future remember, 1. White blueish smoke means burning oil. So there is oil getting into the combustion chamber. Usually due to oil rings being shot or valve stem seals or over filling the engine with oil. The white smoke will also smell like burning oil. 2. A faulty head gasket most often results in large clouds of sweet smelling white steamy smoke coming from the exhaust. This is caused by antifreeze leaking past the gasket and into the cylinders, where it is turned to steam as part of the combustion process. Less common, but still possible, is a leak from an oil passage to the cylinder, which would cause blueish smoke. Either of these types of gasket failure will also allow combustion pressure into the cooling system, or oil breather system. If a radiator hose suddenly blows off its water outlet, or the dipstick won’t stay put, this could be the reason. Check inside of the radiator cap to see also if there is milky buildup. 3. Black smoke indicates that the fuel is not burned properly. The internal combustion process in diesel cars requires a certain mixture of fuel and air. The ratio of fuel and air should be proper, otherwise, the mixture will be too rich, which will result in black smoke. Faulty injectors
My first thought with the white smoke, was due to oil present in the cylinders; thus causing the smoke. I assume that having to much oil increased the pressure in the cylinder head; causing small amounts of oil to be forced past the cylinder seals, and getting into the firing chamber.
Ohh mate, im sure someone has already made this observation but when removing the rockers, you should check the lash after you put it back together to make sure it is within spec
Of course my previous comment didn’t take into account that you had overfilled the oil which had I known would have been my first port of call. Still, great you have solved the issue. Shame it took all that work of changing the head gasket to find out.
Please, please, get round to doing those hull patches. It will improve the look of the boat 100% Agree with other commenters about a valuable chance missed to clean and lap the valves etc. Great presentation as usual and nice to watch.
Good idea to put the rods in a piece of cardboard marked to Id and just poke them all through it that way if they accidentally are bumped you will not lose their location. You laid them flat and on a table or whatever and do not secure them for order you are just asking for unnecessary trouble. Keep the cylinder bores covered because you want to keep them as clean as possible no matter how much you vacuum and clean them after getting debris in them. Use rubber gloves for protection as most cleaners are not the best for your long term health. Great job and usually replace thermostat .
13:15 depending on where you come from this white smoke might not be a problem. But if you have ever lived in Germany you would know that so many people would be getting angry about this smoke. I feel for you brother. Hope the problem can be fixed soon
Did you smell the exhaust to determine if it smells like burning oil, diesel or antifreeze first. It would give you a good idea of what was wrong to start with.
Lots of older engines will burn oil until they are at their "happy place". I fly piper archers, which can take up to 8 quarts of oil, but if you fill it to eight there's a good chance it'll burn oil until its at or around six and a half quarts. Your diesel engine probably was doing the same thing. Nothing wrong with getting some major maintenance out of the way though.
Great video, I like the way you edited it. Straight to the Point, with good shots. Also, I think you put the Thermostat in, up side down. I believe the Spring, which heats up to ope the Thermostat. Should be on the Engine side of the Water Flow. This may cause the Engine to get hotter, before it opens. I've only work on 60's and 70's Chevy and Dodge Gas Engines though... Don
I hope you have done a oil change after you have done the head gasket and I will say it’s probably the injector cleaner and oil level to high as the trouble the boat is looking good
this is the cleanest looking 40 year old engine i have seen .Replace the injectors and you should be fine. However ,omitting a valve job is a rookie mistake.
Nice job you an your m8 did but even my 6.4lt V6 [thirsty] motor in the Commodore blows white smoke on start up Longer yeh, probs. I'd be shi***n myself if the piece-a c**p blew black smoke though. Thanks m8, you and yours stay safe and well.
Looks like a Perkins 4.236. Great engines. Glad you fixed the white smoke issue. A lot of back yard mechanics with different opinions in comments! White smoke is caused by bad headgasket or unburnt fuel oil(usually). But the other obvious cause of white smoke is lube oil getting into the exhaust. Since lowering the oil level fixed the problem then your crank case breather system need cleaning/checking as it was allowing lube oil to get into the exhaust. There is a breather/crankcase vent and a blow by hose . Check both . Cheers warren
For Disels if the Smoke is White, its a To rich Fule Mixture, yes it can also mean water in the combustion but then you would also have white smoke when ideling with the engine. the oil removal wasnt necesary unless you seen the oil pressure drop, wich would mean your engine would have beaten the oil to a foam, like milk to schlagsahne plus dark smoke.
One bit of advice I'd give is to step the torque setting up on a head. Say 30Nm, 60 Nm, then finish at 81. It allows the gasket to squish properly etc.
Did you lubricate the threads on the head studs, doing the head bolts up without them being lubricated, you can lose up to 50% of the clamping force on the cylinder had gasket due the excess friction generated in the thread when doing them up, you also should have checked the valve clearance as the gasket has a different height form the gasket you removed. It would also have been a good idea to have the injectors cleaned and tested.
apart from all the steps missing during & after your "field" head gasket swap from a professional pov, you should have taken off the injectors and get them opening pressure and leak checked since this is really vital to an old diesel engines life expectancy.....
hy dear the white smoke, in my opinion comes by some oil been burned possibly is one of the ring on the pistons, dont know the name in engllish but possibly is a leak of oil, need to ceck the compression of all cilinder manuel, italy
Hi I do believe your white smoke is coming from the injection pump would recommend having the injection pump and injectors checked and rebuilt if necessary :)
you have to check you valve stem seals, that may be what is making the smoke. They are small rubber elastomer hoods slid over each valve stem to prevent the rocker arms oil lube from running down the valve stem and into the cylinder when they are cycled in and out.
It may be a good idea to keep an eye on the oil level, if it starts going up, you're definitely losing fuel into the oil. The most likely location for that would be the injection pump oil seal.
I see where there is a bolt missing on the fuel filter bracket. A new head gasket will for sure have changed the valve clearances. I'd recommend checking them.
You can tell a lot by the ‘smoke’ a diesel produces: 1. Black smoke = Over fuelling for the air supplied (Rich mixture). 2. White smoke = under fuelling for the air supplied (Weak mixture). 3. Blue smoke = Lubricating oil being burned. Based on the evidence of your experience I think (2) is relevant and the system cleaner likely cleared out your injector nozzles- you got lucky. The insufficient fuel can be caused by poor injectors or incorrect fuel pump timing or indeed a failing fuel pump. In your case the high oil level was a ‘red herring’ it would never cause white smoke - only blue, but you are are right to avoid running with high oil levels it can cause frothing of the oil which lowers oil pressure and in extreme cases of very high oil level can cause the engine to ‘lock hydraulically’ as the piston descends into the crankcase. Top tip - loosen off all cylinder head nuts say two turns. Put the rocker gear and pushrods back together and turn the engine over by hand and the compression will break the seal.
Ok. When you had the head off you should of laped the valvas. That is where your smoke is coming from. After you lap the valves you set the valvas and that should stop the whit smoke.
nah , just overfilled oil, everything w as dry on top. no water on pistons, and no leaks of radiator fluid,,,just oil level...try it with a lawnmower :)
You are doing a fantastic job on the old yacht especially since you don't know fuck all about what you're doing but your spirit is indomitable. Well done. .
Great video. I have to agree with some of the guys, I think it was dirty injectors. On a completely different note ...... if it was me, I would have tilted the little auxiliary motor up and out of the water before a trip. The passing water spins the prop that in turn turns the internal shaft unnecessarily.
White smoke on startup would be caused by the valve seats and or seals. Oil from the top of the head is leaking past the valves and is burned off during exhaust strokes. Also, if your piston rings are worn out they will not remove the oil from the cylinders during the intake and power strokes, this residual oil is left and being burned off, I suspect this is your issue. If you suspected a head gasket, check your oil. There would be obvious signs of oil contamination with it appearing "milky" as the coolant is getting into the combustion chamber and leaking past the rings into the pan. If the smoke was black then it would make sense that there may be issues with the injector leaking, this would indicate a "rich" condition. Symptoms of this would be "hard starting", caused by the fuel pressure leaking off while the engine sits and fuel contamination in your oil.
Hello/ guten Abend, (Im sorry I do not know your name) but I just wanted to tell you that I just binge watched all 65 of your restoration videos since last night and I enjoyed every single one of them. I know you will have a reason or even reasons to leave the old platform behind that somehow I may have missed, may I ask is this a seasonal thing and that you intend to return to it or is it just abandon and left there for anybody to dock at and take over? I have thoroughly enjoyed following your adventures and look forward to being here are you continue them - be safe & stay strong, best regards Scott
In the US as in Europe they use ultra low sulfer diesel this causes the injectors scuff and drip fuel it will also scuff the pistons in the injection pump they may need a rebuild
I winder who came up with the idea if removing the head gasket LOL. The oil levels are usually the first thing looked at let alone not fully replacing and recalibrating top end metrics and refurbishment.
Piston rings. Smoke from the exhaust is more often than not the piston rings allowing oil into the combustion chambers. Very rarely in my experience is it the head gasket. Head gasket problems cause water to mix with oil causing white slime to gather in rocker box. Also it affects the starting of the engine. It becomes very hard to start requiring several attempts. The only other thing it could possibly be is the injectors. Anyway, at least now you know it’s not the head gasket.
Once the head was already off I would have definitely checked how the valves seal and grind/lap them if they are not 100% - a compression test could also give you an indication how they seal. Also it would have been a good idea to get the injectors tested for pressure and spray pattern.
A simple test for valve seal condition is to flip the head upside down and, with the particular valve(s) in the closed position, fill the combustion are with alcohol. If it leaks down, change the seals and lap the valves. But I agree with other, going through the trouble of removing that lump of iron, may as well do everything else related at the same time.
I would do the first thing ! if you we're USING coolant then you have head gasket problem...but seeing the head gasket was cherry no leaking in between the cyclyinders. ALWAY CHECK YOUR VALVE LASHING PUTTING BACK THE ROCKERS. you should make SURE your motor is running at 180 dgrees ! Proper burn of the fuel. Next your injectors could be bad which you can bench test for proper blance rate flow ! Usally cast heads do not wrap that would only be aluminum heads. Always make sure you blance of oil not to over fill as too slash more on the piston rings and burn threw your exhaust...other wise that motor will out live you when properly taken care of.
I don’t like how much that engine is vibrating at higher rpm. Check the motor mounts and perhaps the shaft alignment. Just back off the coupling bolts a bit and wind the shaft by hand. A gap will appear between the halves. (If it does not try winding the shaft the other direction. Then once you have a gap, stop and measure the gap at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock with feeler gauges. All sides should be very close. If not you have some shimming up or down and some moving of the engine to do. Try to get the measurement within about 0.002 - 0.003”
In spite of all the know-it-alls here (not that they are ignorant ) I always enjoy your show.
You never brag, but on the other hand you are never afraid of jumping into deep water and rather gather the necessary insights while you are at it. This is but one of the reasons I always learn something from your vids. Kudos!
I love how Gerudo valley is playing in the background. Such a weird yet strangely fitting choice.
Compression test first. Once the head is off lap in the valves. Always re adjust the valve clearances. Never ever use metal to metal like you did removing the head, use a block of hardwood and get some wd40 down the threads.
Oh that big metal chisel made me cringe.
Lap in the valves, replace the seals, knurl the guides....so much should have been done that's going to bite them later. Yeah, I cringed at the chisel as well....
Ya, that was 100% injectors though.
metal sledgehammer was a bit unnecessary too considering you could use rubber mallet
Other may have said it.
Should have reconditioned the valves. Lap and swap the valve oil seals. The gasket kit had them sat there.
Then regardless of of if may be ok should always check the valve clearance and lash.
Changes the case filters and breathers.
Check the inlet manifold for sludge and clean incase it is ingesting oil from a breather.
You can do it all by hand so the only tools needed is a valve spring compressor, a lapping tool and valve bedding paste.
Plenty of tutorials on youtube to point out how it is done
would recon the injectors too by pulling them and sending them for a clean. (not a job for armatures)
don't use metal to metal one scratch is enough to mess the block or head face
The time for all that has come and gone.. That head is never coming off again.
@@hawkdsl A little negative there buddy.
Besides thats why my comment says should and may.
Not do it now.
@@gaz-3711 My comment wasn't a critique of yours, it was just stating the obvious.
Wasting your breath trying to explain anything, I dropped subs to this channel he makes so many simple mistakes, never listens, does it wrong and refuses to acknowledge anyone who corrects him, was interesting at first, but it's sad to see so many mistakes over and over.
@@hawkdsl Ah fair enough
One or a couple of fuel injectors is causing the white smoke while under pressure. Remove them and have them cleaned properly. You may want to try to clean them yourself. Great video as usual.
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ he’s right
I was thinking the exact same thing that an injector was fouled and had a bad spray pattern. On top of that, are you sure the thermostat isn’t in upside down? I’m not sure but I would think the big side with the spring should be on the hot side which is the engine side not the tank side. Someone please correct me if I’m incorrect in my thinking.
Injectors.
@@walkersamdahl3424 The thermostat is fine that way around for that cooling set up.
you are correct. .
The high quality episode and your musical sense of humor (the majestic opening) are enjoyable as usual.
You should still adjust the valve lash, even with the same pushrods
i will add that valve adjustment is normal Maintenace as they get tighter as you run them. the valves beat into the head which tightens lash.
Do these engines not use hydraulic lifters?
@@Rushinglc most diesels do not have hydraulic lifters
With age of your boat, it's good preventive maintenance; excellent call ! From across the pond of the USA, I enjoy your vedios and projects.
Engine room is looking good im excited to see the day you paint and restore the body of the boat and at least you know the top of the engine has been rebuilt it'll be something you can look back and laugh at
I knew it was an oil issue... I Kno because I have a bad habbit of over filling things I was frequently call puff cuz of the white smoke following me into the docks.. All the old timers call me olive oil.. 😂!! One of the old timers(The one who named me Olive Oil)came over an said "let's check your engine.Show me your pre sail check list!" So every time I add a lil bit of oil ... Captain said so did it need oil? I said "no but I just wanna be safe .. I don't wanna run low..!" He said honey your drowning your engine with fluids.... It was my 1st time really learned cuz he watched me an showed me when I hadn't a clue... I miss my old timers an my old vessel.... I loved watching you guys work on your engine. It's all looking good... Your 1st vessel is wonderful...!! Thanks for sharing your life with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
10:00 Valve clearance check? Anti-seize helps next time you disassemble...
Usually white smoke means you are burning diesel and oil. It may be because exces of oil presure and in the worth case failure in the rings qho let pass oil into de cilinders. Hope that in this case have been the first. Thanks for your videos.
Wow everyone is commenting like a pro.... hey man, you've come a long way, good job and keep it up.
Oh well, at least the egine got a good service, for which your fellow river users will, no doubt thank you. Thanks for sharing. From the UK.
I run a diesel additive all the time . Keeps the injectors clean.
Don't for to re tighten the head after the engine has been run for a few hours your manual should give you information about this. I would also check the valve clearances when you have the rocker cover off. If the settings/gaps are too large the valves don't open fully and can be damaged and the engine doesn'trun as well as it could. The other thing is that the dimension between the cam followers and the rocker arms may have changed with the new gasket as the old one may have been compressed over the years. The issue of smoke can be caused by the over fill of oil. I enjoy you videos thank you for taking the time to make them. J
Considering the white smoke (unburned diesel or the pump set too early) and how the engine shook at higher revs, my money is on bad / clogged injectors.
I think the thing that helped the most in your case was the injectorcleaner in the diesel. I would recommend injector renovation and checking the pump setting.
Yeah I noticed what seemed like excessive vibration as well.
You will probably find the white smoke was due to an excess of engine oil. I`ve heard of this problem several times before, deisel oil mixed with engine oil burns with white smoke, it`s caused by excessive pressure in the crankcase causing blow by, meaning the oil being forced up beside the pistons. The white smoke would have stopped eventually when enough had blown by, however, that in itself can cause problems if not tackled quick enough.
i think if theres much blow my by the piston rings or something. the pistons should me covered by oil. there was none. you should take intake mainfold off and look if theres oil. and you should check the valve clearances soon coz u chance the head gasket. but nice to see there no more white smoke. take care.
remove the cylinder head, turn it upside down. pour gasoline in top of each cylinder. See if any valve leaks. or pour gasoline into exhaust and intake ports to check for valve leaks. reseat the valves if any leaks. I would also check valve guides and valve seals. I suspect it is a worn valve guide and / or valve seal causing engine oil entering into combustion chamber.
If there is excess oil, and it begins to burn in the cylinders it will begin to run-away on "full throttle" and may even over rev. so it's probably not due to excess oil.
I really enjoy watching your videos, inspired me to buy myself a boat also, well greetings from the island of Aruba the Caribbean. Soon moving to Europe....
I believe it was the overfill of oil. The smoke was burning oil. At first I thought it was the Valve stems and/or valve stem seals. When the Valve stem guides wear and the seals get old, oil will come into the combustion chamber, causing the ugly burning old smoke. However, having too much oil in the crank case will cause the to ‘blow by’ the piston rings, especially at high RPMs.
Would have, should have, could have, don’t listen to any of them! You and your mate did just fine!
Absolute nostalgia hearing Gerrudo Valley playing in the background near the start 😄🤓
As a retired marine engineer I cannot believe that you did not check the valve clearances…it is a must after the rockers have been removed.also I would have ground in the valves while the head was off...BUT I would have checked the injectors before I did anything else.cheers Roly 🇬🇧.
Ring are worn out. With the overfull oil it allowed oil to push up threw the oil rings creating the smoke.. white smoke is always oil burning. Black is to fuel problems.
Undoing the 4 bolts at the top of the injectors will do absolutely nithing in bleeding the air to help it start faster. They are the backleak/return bolts so you could bleed air from there forever and it will never get to the high pressure side of the inhector nozzle. Bleed the filter, possibly open bleed screw on the mechanical governor injector pump then crack open each injector pipe, crank the engine until air is purged, tighten the nuts and engine will fire up way quicker than it has been.
Saves battery and starter. 4236 Perkins are a very very good engine.
Before stripping down an engine determine if that is needed. Start with a compression, or better yet a leak down test. While at it pressure test the cooling system, look at your water cooled exhaust system, check for corrosion and leaks. Sea water can get hot enough to make steam. One system I saw had raw sea water seeping through a small crack in the exhaust manifold, it turned to steam and created 'smoke'.
Check your fuel ( take a sample and really LOOK at it), fuel quality varies from marina to marina. It's not always diesel that is being pumped into your tank. I've seen old cooking oil added at some places. Check the tanks, delivery lines, water separator and filters. Marine fuel tanks can get very dirty.
Check you fuel injectors, for pressure, delivery rate and spray pattern. Many diesels have clogged injectors and a simple clean makes a big difference. Your engine may need cleaned/rebuilt injectors instead of removing the head.
If you remove the head you may as well overhaul it. Remove and re-seat the valves, replace valve seals etc. You've already bought all the bits with the head gasket.
Good vids.
That white smoke looked like it was hanging in the air. Would steam do that?
is amazing how great editing makes this job look so simple, but Im sure , all of us mechanics out there who are watching this know the real deal, good job though,, looks great on video
Progress is showing! Step by step day by day. Good work my friend!
I love the way you work so carefully and show everything so clearly. Well done !
good job getting the head off and replacing the gasket. when i did a similar job, it was recommended that we check to see. how flat the head was and machine it if necessary. i agree with the others about the valve lash.
Good work on engine room as well as engine👍🏻🙂
Hi, on my nautical license manual it’s written that black smock is a bad combustion while white smoke is the engine burning oil
Could be wrong dipstick. Drain oil and fill per the engine manual then mark or remember the level.
Great job.....I'm glad it's only the extra oil🛢 otherwise it's expensive to do the cylinder heads...stay safe n greetings from down under Australia 🇦🇺
It really was the oil. White smoke is a sing of a bad ratio of gas/oil. Nevertheless don´t think for a second you wasted your time. That maintenance was a great thing to do and will give you piece of mind for some years ahead. Very impressed as well with the good conditions of the motor, just incredible how well it looks inside. Thanks for your videos mate!
Good job, that's one headache gone.
greatly enjoy your videos, mit viel Spass und Gemütlichkeit!
I have the same “shitty” compressor. I love your narration and willingness to tackle almost anything.
Some good advice below that is worthy of consideration. My advice is to urgently check the valve clearances as the new head gasket might be a different thickness to the old one and this will directly change the clearances of all of the valves. If this is the case, valves might be staying open or performance of the engine might be degraded. Either way, checking adjusting the valves on this engine is a 10 minute job.
Gday Crew,,
When you removed the cyl head you should have replaced valve stem seals & adjusted the valve clearences ...
Injectors ,can cause smoke if they are dirty or leak ,or need resetting ,also fuel sould be turned off after use (to stop syphon or back flo ).
A poorly timed fuel pump can cause smoke too,
However , if you had a high.oil level in engine sump ,, iit looks like you may have loose leaking , or dirty injectors dripping fuel causing lube oil dilution , over filling the sump .
Also check fuel tank for water contamination, from deck filling point.
Cheap injector pump cleaning kits are on ebay .
Respect
Thanks for the tip! aluminum L profile, so easy!
I am not sure if said already but in a tractor you will get white smoke when you have a hole in your cylinder wall, pressure test. We would just replace the cylinder sleeve (pack)
For future remember,
1. White blueish smoke means burning oil. So there is oil getting into the combustion chamber. Usually due to oil rings being shot or valve stem seals or over filling the engine with oil. The white smoke will also smell like burning oil.
2. A faulty head gasket most often results in large clouds of sweet smelling white steamy smoke coming from the exhaust. This is caused by antifreeze leaking past the gasket and into the cylinders, where it is turned to steam as part of the combustion process. Less common, but still possible, is a leak from an oil passage to the cylinder, which would cause blueish smoke.
Either of these types of gasket failure will also allow combustion pressure into the cooling system, or oil breather system. If a radiator hose suddenly blows off its water outlet, or the dipstick won’t stay put, this could be the reason. Check inside of the radiator cap to see also if there is milky buildup.
3. Black smoke indicates that the fuel is not burned properly. The internal combustion process in diesel cars requires a certain mixture of fuel and air. The ratio of fuel and air should be proper, otherwise, the mixture will be too rich, which will result in black smoke. Faulty injectors
My first thought with the white smoke, was due to oil present in the cylinders; thus causing the smoke. I assume that having to much oil increased the pressure in the cylinder head; causing small amounts of oil to be forced past the cylinder seals, and getting into the firing chamber.
don't forget to retorque after 50 operation hrs and adjust your valve rocker arms
Ohh mate, im sure someone has already made this observation but when removing the rockers, you should check the lash after you put it back together to make sure it is within spec
Of course my previous comment didn’t take into account that you had overfilled the oil which had I known would have been my first port of call. Still, great you have solved the issue. Shame it took all that work of changing the head gasket to find out.
And for next time... Always begin with the most easy possible solution 🤟
Always handy to have a friend like that.
Never would have thought of storing the rods in order. Good idea!
Total BS, no point.
Please, please, get round to doing those hull patches. It will improve the look of the boat 100%
Agree with other commenters about a valuable chance missed to clean and lap the valves etc.
Great presentation as usual and nice to watch.
Good idea to put the rods in a piece of cardboard marked to Id and just poke them all through it that way if they accidentally are bumped you will not lose their location. You laid them flat and on a table or whatever and do not secure them for order you are just asking for unnecessary trouble. Keep the cylinder bores covered because you want to keep them as clean as possible no matter how much you vacuum and clean them after getting debris in them. Use rubber gloves for protection as most cleaners are not the best for your long term health. Great job and usually replace thermostat .
It moves along really well for such a small engine.
I’d say that fine engine is fit for the next 50 years
Cheers
100% over full my friend
why you show the old woden doors in this video? you fixed it in previous videos.....please explain...
13:15 depending on where you come from this white smoke might not be a problem. But if you have ever lived in Germany you would know that so many people would be getting angry about this smoke.
I feel for you brother. Hope the problem can be fixed soon
Did you smell the exhaust to determine if it smells like burning oil, diesel or antifreeze first. It would give you a good idea of what was wrong to start with.
Good 👍i just coming from work right time. Blessing 🙏 my bro keep up the good work 💪# 🙏 💯🇩🇪🇯🇲🇺🇲
Lots of older engines will burn oil until they are at their "happy place". I fly piper archers, which can take up to 8 quarts of oil, but if you fill it to eight there's a good chance it'll burn oil until its at or around six and a half quarts. Your diesel engine probably was doing the same thing. Nothing wrong with getting some major maintenance out of the way though.
Great video, I like the way you edited it. Straight to the Point, with good shots. Also, I think you put the Thermostat in, up side down. I believe the Spring, which heats up to ope the Thermostat. Should be on the Engine side of the Water Flow. This may cause the Engine to get hotter, before it opens. I've only work on 60's and 70's Chevy and Dodge Gas Engines though... Don
I was thinking the same thing that the spring should be on the hot side not the cooler tank side
@@walkersamdahl3424 Ya, I think that's how they all are... Don
I hope you have done a oil change after you have done the head gasket and I will say it’s probably the injector cleaner and oil level to high as the trouble the boat is looking good
this is the cleanest looking 40 year old engine i have seen .Replace the injectors and you should be fine. However ,omitting a valve job is a rookie mistake.
Also it primes faster if you leave the injector lines loose a turn and only tighten them fully when they start bleeding fuel
Nice job you an your m8 did but even my 6.4lt V6 [thirsty] motor in the Commodore blows white smoke on start up Longer yeh, probs. I'd be shi***n myself if the piece-a c**p blew black smoke though. Thanks m8, you and yours stay safe and well.
Looks like a Perkins 4.236. Great engines. Glad you fixed the white smoke issue. A lot of back yard mechanics with different opinions in comments!
White smoke is caused by bad headgasket or unburnt fuel oil(usually).
But the other obvious cause of white smoke is lube oil getting into the exhaust.
Since lowering the oil level fixed the problem then your crank case breather system need cleaning/checking as it was allowing lube oil to get into the exhaust. There is a breather/crankcase vent and a blow by hose . Check both .
Cheers warren
Yep it is a perkins. Ripped enough apart to ping it.
Also is marked on the gasket kit :D
White smoke can also mean oil getting into the intake, often from valve guides.
For Disels if the Smoke is White, its a To rich Fule Mixture, yes it can also mean water in the combustion but then you would also have white smoke when ideling with the engine. the oil removal wasnt necesary unless you seen the oil pressure drop, wich would mean your engine would have beaten the oil to a foam, like milk to schlagsahne plus dark smoke.
One bit of advice I'd give is to step the torque setting up on a head. Say 30Nm, 60 Nm, then finish at 81. It allows the gasket to squish properly etc.
Did you lubricate the threads on the head studs, doing the head bolts up without them being lubricated, you can lose up to 50% of the clamping force on the cylinder had gasket due the excess friction generated in the thread when doing them up, you also should have checked the valve clearance as the gasket has a different height form the gasket you removed. It would also have been a good idea to have the injectors cleaned and tested.
apart from all the steps missing during & after your "field" head gasket swap from a professional pov, you should have taken off the injectors and get them opening pressure and leak checked since this is really vital to an old diesel engines life expectancy.....
hy dear
the white smoke, in my opinion comes by some oil been burned
possibly is one of the ring on the pistons, dont know the name in engllish
but possibly is a leak of oil, need to ceck the compression of all cilinder
manuel, italy
Hi I do believe your white smoke is coming from the injection pump would recommend having the injection pump and injectors checked and rebuilt if necessary :)
you have to check you valve stem seals, that may be what is making the smoke. They are small rubber elastomer hoods slid over each valve stem to prevent the rocker arms oil lube from running down the valve stem and into the cylinder when they are cycled in and out.
It may be a good idea to keep an eye on the oil level, if it starts going up, you're definitely losing fuel into the oil. The most likely location for that would be the injection pump oil seal.
I'd like to like this twice. Oil doesn't magically appear. So if it comes back again there's fuel or water getting in there.
I see where there is a bolt missing on the fuel filter bracket. A new head gasket will for sure have changed the valve clearances. I'd recommend checking them.
You can tell a lot by the ‘smoke’ a diesel produces:
1. Black smoke = Over fuelling for the air supplied (Rich mixture).
2. White smoke = under fuelling for the air supplied (Weak mixture).
3. Blue smoke = Lubricating oil being burned.
Based on the evidence of your experience I think (2) is relevant and the system cleaner likely cleared out your injector nozzles- you got lucky. The insufficient fuel can be caused by poor injectors or incorrect fuel pump timing or indeed a failing fuel pump.
In your case the high oil level was a ‘red herring’ it would never cause white smoke - only blue, but you are are right to avoid running with high oil levels it can cause frothing of the oil which lowers oil pressure and in extreme cases of very high oil level can cause the engine to ‘lock hydraulically’ as the piston descends into the crankcase.
Top tip - loosen off all cylinder head nuts say two turns. Put the rocker gear and pushrods back together and turn the engine over by hand and the compression will break the seal.
Ok. When you had the head off you should of laped the valvas. That is where your smoke is coming from. After you lap the valves you set the valvas and that should stop the whit smoke.
nah , just overfilled oil, everything w as dry on top. no water on pistons, and no leaks of radiator fluid,,,just oil level...try it with a lawnmower :)
You still need to check and adjust the valve clearances these are critical if not done could lesd to the valves burning out
You are doing a fantastic job on the old yacht especially since you don't know fuck all about what you're doing but your spirit is indomitable. Well done.
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Great video. I have to agree with some of the guys, I think it was dirty injectors.
On a completely different note ...... if it was me, I would have tilted the little auxiliary motor up and out of the water before a trip. The passing water spins the prop that in turn turns the internal shaft unnecessarily.
White smoke on startup would be caused by the valve seats and or seals. Oil from the top of the head is leaking past the valves and is burned off during exhaust strokes. Also, if your piston rings are worn out they will not remove the oil from the cylinders during the intake and power strokes, this residual oil is left and being burned off, I suspect this is your issue. If you suspected a head gasket, check your oil. There would be obvious signs of oil contamination with it appearing "milky" as the coolant is getting into the combustion chamber and leaking past the rings into the pan. If the smoke was black then it would make sense that there may be issues with the injector leaking, this would indicate a "rich" condition. Symptoms of this would be "hard starting", caused by the fuel pressure leaking off while the engine sits and fuel contamination in your oil.
If your head gasket was leaking, you would typically have one cylinder(the leaky one) that's squeaky clean. Yours all look good.
So good mate :) love these vids!
Hello/ guten Abend, (Im sorry I do not know your name) but I just wanted to tell you that I just binge watched all 65 of your restoration videos since last night and I enjoyed every single one of them.
I know you will have a reason or even reasons to leave the old platform behind that somehow I may have missed, may I ask is this a seasonal thing and that you intend to return to it or is it just abandon and left there for anybody to dock at and take over?
I have thoroughly enjoyed following your adventures and look forward to being here are you continue them - be safe & stay strong, best regards Scott
In the US as in Europe they use ultra low sulfer diesel this causes the injectors scuff and drip fuel it will also scuff the pistons in the injection pump they may need a rebuild
thats why i put an additve in my fuel i have 555s they will run on oily rags
I winder who came up with the idea if removing the head gasket LOL. The oil levels are usually the first thing looked at let alone not fully replacing and recalibrating top end metrics and refurbishment.
En los motores diesel no hay que sobrepasar el nivel de aceite, porque el humo blanco es aceite quemado.
Hey MFB, around 1:00 what's the synth music? 10:15 is a bit 'Wendy Carlos' also :-)
Steam is the head gasket generally. White smoke is the engine burning to lean which is the injectors generally. Now I'll watch the rest.
I missed the part where you explain why the hull is not completely painted. Is it for purposes of stealth?
allso you need to have the injectors checked for spray pattern and change tips as its apart
The smoke comes with a hint of blue, which means the problem may be in the valve stem seals. I had the same issue. What I just didn't do.
white smoke can be worn injectors or timing issue,oil will be blue
The Engine runs good 👍
Piston rings. Smoke from the exhaust is more often than not the piston rings allowing oil into the combustion chambers. Very rarely in my experience is it the head gasket. Head gasket problems cause water to mix with oil causing white slime to gather in rocker box. Also it affects the starting of the engine. It becomes very hard to start requiring several attempts. The only other thing it could possibly be is the injectors. Anyway, at least now you know it’s not the head gasket.
Once the head was already off I would have definitely checked how the valves seal and grind/lap them if they are not 100% - a compression test could also give you an indication how they seal. Also it would have been a good idea to get the injectors tested for pressure and spray pattern.
A simple test for valve seal condition is to flip the head upside down and, with the particular valve(s) in the closed position, fill the combustion are with alcohol. If it leaks down, change the seals and lap the valves. But I agree with other, going through the trouble of removing that lump of iron, may as well do everything else related at the same time.
Goodness that is a beautiful boat. My Porsche smokes if I put too much oil in it too :)
I would do the first thing ! if you we're USING coolant then you have head gasket problem...but seeing the head gasket was cherry no leaking in between the cyclyinders.
ALWAY CHECK YOUR VALVE LASHING PUTTING BACK THE ROCKERS.
you should make SURE your motor is running at 180 dgrees ! Proper burn of the fuel.
Next your injectors could be bad which you can bench test for proper blance rate flow !
Usally cast heads do not wrap that would only be aluminum heads.
Always make sure you blance of oil not to over fill as too slash more on the piston rings and burn threw your exhaust...other wise that motor will out live you when properly taken care of.
Everyone in here talking about engines…
And I’m just here to give props for using Zelda music!!
I don’t like how much that engine is vibrating at higher rpm. Check the motor mounts and perhaps the shaft alignment. Just back off the coupling bolts a bit and wind the shaft by hand. A gap will appear between the halves. (If it does not try winding the shaft the other direction. Then once you have a gap, stop and measure the gap at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock with feeler gauges. All sides should be very close. If not you have some shimming up or down and some moving of the engine to do. Try to get the measurement within about 0.002 - 0.003”