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  • The worst of worst trades in the NFL.
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    Sure… Most trades in the NFL end up being somewhat equitable… But the trade machine in the NFL is a fickle beast-and there have been more than a few instances in which it has giveth-and subsequently taketh in a MAJOR way.
    With the offseason in full swing, we have decided to take a look back to the turn of the millennium and peg the 10 WORST trades that NFL teams have made.
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  • @williamriek6838
    @williamriek6838 Рік тому +154

    I mean technically the Russel Wilson trade was awesome... if your the Seahawks.

    • @DarthEvan66
      @DarthEvan66 Рік тому +15

      Absolutely. Im extremely happy with it 🤩

    • @trentwise3762
      @trentwise3762 Рік тому +4

      Haha true it all depends on perspective

    • @nicktaylor2657
      @nicktaylor2657 Рік тому +3

      Anyone think Geno Smith is going to have another good season?

    • @jegElskerHundenMin
      @jegElskerHundenMin Рік тому +1

      @@nicktaylor2657yes, only because Seattle has arguably the most explosive offense. Dk MetCalf, Tyler Lockett and JSN at wr, Noah fant at te, with Kenneth Walker at rb with a young offensive line. As long as the young offensive line is average, geno has so many targets to boost his stats

    • @wickedencounter110
      @wickedencounter110 Рік тому +1

      Or if you can't stand the Donkeys.

  • @rockydabomb69420
    @rockydabomb69420 Рік тому +49

    Bro how is the DeAndre Hopkins trade not on here? Unbelievable how bad these guys are

  • @imanivij9792
    @imanivij9792 Рік тому +53

    I would also say that the Trey Lance trade was a very bad trade as he is probably gonna be traded for a 2nd while the 49ers gave 3 first round picks.

    • @Disxreet
      @Disxreet Рік тому +3

      Doubtful.

    • @imanivij9792
      @imanivij9792 Рік тому +8

      @@Disxreet True but the fact that it was an option to trade him is shocking. Plus the Dolphins got Waddle, Hill and Chubb

    • @n8doggy733
      @n8doggy733 Рік тому +6

      Niner fan here, would be VERY happy if they could get a second for Try at this point

    • @DemeilJacobs
      @DemeilJacobs Рік тому +6

      Technically, it was 2 1st rounders and a first round pick swap.

    • @imanivij9792
      @imanivij9792 Рік тому +1

      @@DemeilJacobs Yeah but still was alot and nobody knows how Trey Lance will play. The fact that Brock Purdy is probably going to be the starter over a guy who was drafted number 3. They had the Antonio Brown pick on here and they only traded a 2nd and a 4th.

  • @BroncoJosh
    @BroncoJosh Рік тому +17

    How do you not have the DeAndre Hopkins, David Johnson trade on there?

  • @JayDee247365
    @JayDee247365 Рік тому +18

    You're off by a year on the Bears. Nagy was in KC when the Bears drafted Trubisky. Nagy came in the 2018 season, the year after.

    • @parkerlyme
      @parkerlyme Рік тому +3

      That’s what I thought because John Fox was the HC at the time

    • @allthingsbengals
      @allthingsbengals Рік тому

      @@parkerlyme John Fox is the goat

  • @DownYouGo75
    @DownYouGo75 10 місяців тому +3

    For all time, it has to be either the Ditka trade for Ricky Williams or the Packers refusal to trade Tony Mandarich for a king's random.

  • @lakerskid2013
    @lakerskid2013 Рік тому +16

    I think bringing up the Wilson trade is way too early, it’s literally only been one year and he has a better situation with a massive upgrade of a head coach in Sean Payton. Also, as a Patriots fan really looking back on that Randy Moss trade, they got quite the steal and then some. Too bad they couldn’t win a Super Bowl with Moss though

    • @daystarfighter
      @daystarfighter Рік тому +1

      Not to mention the injuries. denver was one of the teams with a ridiculous amount of players on IR and russ was also tied for leading the league in getting sacked he couldn't get the ball off to save his life without getting put on the turf the team has since went out and signed two line men to fill out the o line and defense was like top 5 I believe almost all year till the last couple weeks of being torn down from constant three and outs by offense its a completely flipped leadership in coaching and if it's more of the same its just showing denver isn't the place to be at the moment for football but go broncos.

    • @lakerskid2013
      @lakerskid2013 Рік тому

      @@daystarfighter I’m also one to think of the fact that maybe Denver may not be the right fit for Wilson, especially if things don’t improve much. No matter how good somebody is, fit is something that still matters and doesn’t always get talked about as often as it should in many situations.

    • @daystarfighter
      @daystarfighter Рік тому

      @lakerskid2013 well with sean payton now and good run game being installed and more variety to the play book if there was a coach to mold to russ type of game I think sean is a great fit so we'll certainly see but yeah Hackett was in over his head hoping for good things to come its been a drag since SB 50

    • @lakerskid2013
      @lakerskid2013 Рік тому

      @@daystarfighter Denver at least has a better future than New England does. I would say at this point half of the league’s teams have better futures than the Patriots especially if they can’t get their QB situation figured out. Mac Jones is definitely at a make or break year but at least they have Bailey Zappe that’s shown flashes

  • @jalenstram2111
    @jalenstram2111 Рік тому +2

    Honestly when the Russell Wilson trade happened I did not think the broncos were a Super Bowl contender, but at the same time I didn’t think they would be that bad, but at the same time we all thought Seattle was gonna be this bad team when it turns out they win the trade by a landslide, even though it is still new Wilson does have time to not make the trade look as bad as it did the first year.

  • @WyattKorb_8
    @WyattKorb_8 Рік тому +3

    Do 5 best off-seasons for a team and 5 worst off-season for a team!

  • @danevertt3210
    @danevertt3210 Рік тому +4

    Holy Christ look at that throw
    4:50

  • @35jigganator
    @35jigganator Рік тому +14

    You can't say the Broncos lost the deal after one season. Until the players involved retire , you still have to let it play out no matter how lopsided it seems in JUST one year.

    • @dakotawhitehouse9391
      @dakotawhitehouse9391 Рік тому

      Logic and common sense doesn't exist in the world anymore. It's always win now

    • @BamBamSam12
      @BamBamSam12 Рік тому +1

      Lol I bet you felt differently this time last year 😂

    • @35jigganator
      @35jigganator Рік тому +1

      @@BamBamSam12 The Broncos haven't had a good QB since Manning retired. There's a difference between an upgrade at the position and thinking you've won/lost the trade.

    • @bobjeff1243
      @bobjeff1243 Рік тому +1

      still, russell basically ruined their season. big salary cap hit and the hawks got a lot of young talent. russ needs to be 2x mvp caliber to make it up

    • @35jigganator
      @35jigganator Рік тому +1

      @Bob Jeff That's fair, but I still think the head coaching switch is going to make a world of difference. The team would constantly be behind the 8 ball when it came to plays being called , time management was brutal, etc. Payton is experienced to where none of the small mistakes would hurt the team. I think they said the Broncos were a bottom 5 team when it came to snapping the ball with less than 3 seconds. (Mostly due to botched play calling by the coaching staff). I don't think he'll be as bad as he was last year.

  • @stevegallo8483
    @stevegallo8483 Рік тому +17

    That RGIII trade could have ended totally differently if Washington didn't ruin RGIII!

    • @franklinkopecky9644
      @franklinkopecky9644 Рік тому

      RGIII HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THAT ... DON'T FORGET

    • @gregmartin114
      @gregmartin114 11 місяців тому

      The rams did nothing with the trade. Redskins actual did better in it

  • @ClassicStreetIron
    @ClassicStreetIron Рік тому +3

    Tebow will never be a failure to me after that beatdown delivered onto the Steelers.

    • @BamBamSam12
      @BamBamSam12 10 місяців тому

      Did you see the following week in New England?

  • @stevenvick5352
    @stevenvick5352 Рік тому +2

    One of the Best NFL UA-cam Channels!!! ❤

  • @giovannivadillo433
    @giovannivadillo433 Рік тому +5

    Please do five teams that are pretender and five teams that are contenders

  • @whisperecho7815
    @whisperecho7815 Рік тому +1

    I know this is just a technical thing, but Matt Nagy wasn't with the Bears when they made the Trubisky deal. He was actually with the Chiefs that year and was all in on them taking Mahomes (he actually slipped Mahomes some inside info to help him ace his KC interview). It doesn't excuse his failures as a head coach but that particular decision wasn't on him.

  • @Goaiece
    @Goaiece Рік тому +6

    Please do my idea: 5 teams that year that were Super Bowl favorites but didn’t make it and 5 teams that weren’t Super Bowl favorites but ended up making it such as 2023 bills and 2023 eagles!

    • @randydubin7118
      @randydubin7118 Рік тому

      "....Such as 2023 Bills...."
      🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

    • @alecsph1835
      @alecsph1835 Рік тому

      @@randydubin7118lmao

  • @sonthan2914
    @sonthan2914 Рік тому +2

    We can’t forget about the Cowboys trading their 2000 and 2001 1st draft picks for Joey Galloway.

    • @PhilP8980
      @PhilP8980 Рік тому +2

      And him immediately tearing his ACL, sucking for the rest of his Cowboys career, and then playing good again for Tampa Bay.

  • @cowgirlqueen2636
    @cowgirlqueen2636 Рік тому +2

    The real issue was shanahan put him out in that playoff game with a torn acl and he injured it way further and essentially ended his career. Had they not played him then he would have been fine

    • @BamBamSam12
      @BamBamSam12 10 місяців тому

      He did more damage to the surrounding areas, but once the acl has torn apart or ruptured, it can’t be made worse. It’s gone. The fact that it was his third acl reconstruction to the same knee is why he never regained his form.

  • @penguinrea0088
    @penguinrea0088 Рік тому

    Keep up your fantastic videos, God bless you guys

  • @nitinudapi3752
    @nitinudapi3752 9 місяців тому

    Also I would add about the RG3 trade that for all the picks WASH gave up to the LA Rams they never made the post season while Jeff Fisher was there. At least WASH went to the postseason once. Fisher wasted the picks and talent he drafted.

  • @stevenperales1249
    @stevenperales1249 11 місяців тому +1

    Atleast Randy Moss actually played, Antonio Brown never saw the field

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina123 Рік тому

    Love your video TPS

  • @Pur3Sway
    @Pur3Sway Рік тому +1

    They never really gave Tebow a chance because of getting manning

  • @Cman7real
    @Cman7real Рік тому +1

    Do the 5 most under rated sports team and the 5 most over rated sports teams day 10

  • @itsdonovandlsr
    @itsdonovandlsr Рік тому

    W video like all ways tps

  • @rickyrodriguez6322
    @rickyrodriguez6322 Рік тому +1

    Idk man..Hopkins to AZ for a rb thats not even on the team anymore was pretty awful if i do say so myself 😂

  • @JC_Fuh_KC
    @JC_Fuh_KC Рік тому

    As a chiefs fan im completely content with the Willie Roaf deal. Dude was a beast when i was a kid

  • @nitinudapi3752
    @nitinudapi3752 9 місяців тому

    How have you not mentioned any of the Bill O'Brien trades with the Houston Texans?! - He traded some of the teams best players for picks and old or ineffective players (i.e: David Johnson)

  • @saylerstrengthsystems4345
    @saylerstrengthsystems4345 Рік тому

    A good honorable mentioned would be the Jets fleecing the Seahawks with the Jamal Adams trade

    • @PhilP8980
      @PhilP8980 Рік тому

      Most overrated player in the league. He's a half decent linebacker, I wouldn't even call him a safety

  • @PhilP8980
    @PhilP8980 Рік тому +2

    The Bills trading for Kelvin Benjamin.

  • @kirinirik10
    @kirinirik10 Рік тому

    That Russell Wilson trade is the worst and best trade of all time!

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 11 місяців тому

    Mitch Trubisky made Rex Grossman look good by comparison. That whole dumpster fire of a deal still stings.

  • @joelitofrito
    @joelitofrito Рік тому

    The research has been slacking lately. Nagy wasn’t the Bears coach in 2017 when Trubisky was drafted.

  • @aamupuuroonblitz523
    @aamupuuroonblitz523 Рік тому +1

    Hopkins to Cards maybe??

  • @steveroe6771
    @steveroe6771 Рік тому

    Well, the Matt Stafford - Jared Goff trade won the Rams a superbowl, Detroit looks like an up and coming team for years to come.

  • @matthewdrury1228
    @matthewdrury1228 Рік тому +2

    Texans trade Dhop for RB and 4th round pick?????????

  • @vaporterra
    @vaporterra Рік тому +1

    Not surprised my Raiders are the first entry on this list

  • @nickcampanelli1420
    @nickcampanelli1420 Рік тому

    Texans trading DeAndre Hopkins to the cardinals for David Johnson. Giving up the literal best reciever in the league for a washed, injury prone RB

  • @anthonyjesel5516
    @anthonyjesel5516 Рік тому

    Is ignoring the Texans a MEME on this channel LMAO

  • @eddiecastillo1596
    @eddiecastillo1596 Рік тому

    Donkey nation, let's ride 😂 😂😂😂😂

  • @ILikeADaMudkips
    @ILikeADaMudkips Рік тому

    Texans trading D. Hop for a bag of potatoes probably one of the worst

  • @jordangrimes7820
    @jordangrimes7820 Рік тому

    Video idea every teams GOAT jersey number

  • @kodrickswanson4060
    @kodrickswanson4060 Рік тому

    You got a put Richard Sherman going to San Francisco on here. He was a shell of himself.

    • @RonnieDeuce25
      @RonnieDeuce25 11 місяців тому

      He wasn't traded, he was cut

  • @hwpo7197
    @hwpo7197 11 місяців тому

    Rg3 was a stud when he played. Kinda like a d rose situation at this point. What could have been

  • @TheWatz05
    @TheWatz05 11 місяців тому

    Surprised the Deandre Hopkins trade isn’t in this list.

  • @allthingsfootball6372
    @allthingsfootball6372 11 місяців тому

    Matt Nagy wasn’t the bears coach coach in 2017 it was John fox

  • @noahkleid6610
    @noahkleid6610 Рік тому

    I have a good video idea… one must watch NFL game for each week

  • @arvinartigas6128
    @arvinartigas6128 Рік тому

    Matt Nagy still wasn't the HC of the Bears when Trubisky was drafted. It was John Fox.

  • @joeymadina1999
    @joeymadina1999 Рік тому

    Jon fox and Ryan pace****
    Matt Nagy was on the Chiefs when Mitchell triubusky was drafted

  • @andrewschuschu3499
    @andrewschuschu3499 Рік тому

    Given what the Browns did with the Richardson pick..... probably would have been better to just keep the damn guy.

  • @joshualewis7692
    @joshualewis7692 Рік тому

    What about the Favre to Jets trade? Looked promising at first but went down the tubes as it went on. Never forget that collapse.

    • @michaelrumfelt3106
      @michaelrumfelt3106 11 місяців тому

      Brett tore his bicep and played thru it. He dont get hurt they make playoffs

    • @joshualewis7692
      @joshualewis7692 11 місяців тому

      @@michaelrumfelt3106 good point. It isn't all on him. Wouldn't blame him. The Jets knew better and had ranked first in rushing. It was heavily mishandled down the stretch.

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower 11 місяців тому

      Will Rodgers be the same?

    • @joshualewis7692
      @joshualewis7692 11 місяців тому

      @@dubstepXpower I most certainly hope not.

  • @aintnoexposingme7739
    @aintnoexposingme7739 Рік тому

    RGIII got sabotage by Mike Shanahan he didn't care about that man's future.

  • @williamsummerson1204
    @williamsummerson1204 Рік тому

    I'm not a Russell Wilson fan but I have a feeling that he is going to quite the nay sayers this season.

  • @bryannorton7535
    @bryannorton7535 11 місяців тому

    Nagy had nothing to do with the Trubisky trade he was in KC at the time.

  • @Eabreptiles
    @Eabreptiles Рік тому

    Don’t forget to mention how Washington ruined RG3

  • @anthonysantiago1452
    @anthonysantiago1452 Рік тому

    Deandre Hopkins For David Johnson by Bill O’Brien

  • @gigabyte9584
    @gigabyte9584 Рік тому

    At the start of video, and I already think to myself: D-Hop going to the Cardinals.

  • @Goofball5277
    @Goofball5277 Рік тому +1

    Russel Wilson trade was great he was bad because he had Natheinel Hackett ,also IT WAS ONE YEAR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ITS
    good. for both teams NOT JUST THE SEAHAWS IT WAS ALSO GOOD FOR THE BRONCOS WILL SKILLZ.

  • @carterragle5355
    @carterragle5355 11 місяців тому +1

    Trey lance trade and of course Dhop for David Johnson and a 2nd rounder

  • @darkshadow8886
    @darkshadow8886 Рік тому +2

    U had me at trade

  • @browniesghost4934
    @browniesghost4934 Рік тому

    I mean…Nagy had nothing to do with the Trubisky trade, he was hired to improve him after they fired Fox. But go off I guess.

  • @carloscolon3331
    @carloscolon3331 Рік тому

    No DHop trade from Houston to AZ

  • @laserxman779sports
    @laserxman779sports Рік тому

    We’ll the Wilson trade only happened one year ago I’m blaming Nathaniel Hackett for the broncos season I’m am optimistic the Russ can turn it around

  • @mikemartin8461
    @mikemartin8461 Рік тому

    Should do a video of teams that wish they resign they top free agents and teams wish they didn't resign there free agents

  • @alexb1528
    @alexb1528 11 місяців тому

    time will tell if the steelers fleeced the bears on the claypool trade

  • @johnmarkle2025
    @johnmarkle2025 Рік тому

    10 Times Tanking Backfired in the NFL

  • @Imgonegetu
    @Imgonegetu 11 місяців тому

    top 10 worst starting running backs since 2000

  • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
    @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому

    The Panthers will make it on here now.... trading up that high in the draft almost never works out... I'm so glad my eagles didn't trade the farm for Marcus Mariota that shit was no rumor they tried with the saints of all teams saints still gotta be kicking themselves!!!!!!

  • @Jalexsmith91
    @Jalexsmith91 11 місяців тому

    The AJ Brown trade has to be there somewhere

  • @alexkurtz4095
    @alexkurtz4095 Рік тому

    David Johnson for deandre Hopkins!

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 Рік тому

    The RG3 trade was a lose-lose, as none of the players drafted ended up being much of anything.

  • @VincentRayEdwards05
    @VincentRayEdwards05 11 місяців тому

    I'll never understand the Tebow hate

  • @jacksonconley5117
    @jacksonconley5117 Рік тому +4

    I hope we see the AJ Brown trade on here.

    • @Phillygoat1983
      @Phillygoat1983 Рік тому +1

      Idk what Tennessee was smoking on but I'm glad they did smoke lol

  • @Pur3Sway
    @Pur3Sway Рік тому

    RG3s knee injury was miss handled

  • @fridaynightfunkinandfnaflo2269
    @fridaynightfunkinandfnaflo2269 9 місяців тому

    Not to mention they had to pay 250 million to Russel how do they not mention that?

  • @vincentt753
    @vincentt753 Рік тому

    Roy Williams to Dallas is far worse than Tebow

  • @justinunger38
    @justinunger38 Рік тому +1

    The deandre hospkins trade

  • @almightyzuniga2043
    @almightyzuniga2043 Рік тому

    I never knew Jay cuter came from denver

  • @LA_sports
    @LA_sports Рік тому

    I’m surprised the Ricky Williams trade didn’t make the list

    • @dansherry5047
      @dansherry5047 Рік тому

      It was in 1999, but it is definitely a terrible trade

  • @patricklynch6811
    @patricklynch6811 Рік тому

    Hopkins trade is worse than Wilson trade

  • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
    @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому

    Some of these trades were so obviously one sided even at the time. De Hop for one Arizona should of had to throw in a 2runder just to clear up the cap for a RB that was passed his prime!!!!! Texans were ready to start making their way up the NFL latter it's a shame I'll never understand Bill O'Brian's thought process

  • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
    @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому

    I don't understand how some of these trades went down when it was so obviously a bad move. They paid these GMs and everyone else millions of dollars so this doesn't happen and I can't get 40k a year job!!!!!! I can't be the only one em I!!!

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 Рік тому

    Champ Bailey wouldn't have made much more difference in Washington than Portis did.
    The majority of the team around either guy would have still sucked. Was Bailey better? yes. But not that much better that it's one of the worst trades.

  • @user-my3ey6jh9v
    @user-my3ey6jh9v Рік тому

    Matt Nagy was not the bears coach at the time trubisky was drafted John Fox was the worst part is the coaching staff did not want him

    • @anthonyslazas6413
      @anthonyslazas6413 Рік тому

      Matt didn't do Justin any favors and he was the HC when drafted

    • @user-my3ey6jh9v
      @user-my3ey6jh9v Рік тому

      @@anthonyslazas6413 Fields was doomed from the start no good qb has ever come out of Ohio state and he plays for the dumpster fire that is the bears

    • @anthonyslazas6413
      @anthonyslazas6413 Рік тому

      @@user-my3ey6jh9v watch and you'll learn what he can do this year

  • @brianvanasse7627
    @brianvanasse7627 Рік тому

    Just think if rg3 was taken by the colts his career would’ve been better and lasted longer and Andrew luck career would been cut short but you Washington can never do anything right especially since 2000

  • @mdotmusic7334
    @mdotmusic7334 Рік тому

    Shady McCoy for some Kiko Alonzo smh

    • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
      @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому +1

      Chip Kelly just wanted Djak and shady McCoy out of town and shady looked pretty bad that year cause of that so predictable!!!! offense and the Oline was gased by the 3rdquarter

  • @anthonyslazas6413
    @anthonyslazas6413 Рік тому

    10 best trades

  • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
    @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому

    I still say Big Balls Bill purposely Sabotage the Jimmy G trade he was offered a 1st and more can't remember what teams were bidding against each other though??? But I knew he was overrated just like the rest of Brady's backups except maybe Drew Bledsow but that's a whole other thing

  • @vincentt753
    @vincentt753 Рік тому

    Bruh Tim Tebow did have a Winning record and won a playoff game . He and Lamar Jackson have the amount of playoff wins and Dak has one more than Tim . Come on now

  • @VMan29397
    @VMan29397 Рік тому +2

    Jamal adams trade

  • @OwenAlderson-pf5tk
    @OwenAlderson-pf5tk Рік тому

    Day 12 of asking for every tens best and worst starting QB ever ( must have started a whole year)

  • @Imgonegetu
    @Imgonegetu 11 місяців тому

    top 10 worst defenses since 2000

  • @matthewalexanderlemma8000
    @matthewalexanderlemma8000 Рік тому

    2001 was the turn of the millennium, not 2000.

  • @gregorywhite2944
    @gregorywhite2944 Рік тому

    D-hop for Houston

  • @marsella527
    @marsella527 Рік тому

    Idk why but I could have sworn Richardson played more than one season with Cleveland 🤔

    • @PhilP8980
      @PhilP8980 Рік тому

      I think he played like 3 games for the Browns in his 2nd season.

  • @todddurden5427
    @todddurden5427 Рік тому

    How in God's green earth is the Texans trading d hop not on here????

  • @RonnieDeuce25
    @RonnieDeuce25 11 місяців тому

    Deandre hopkins trade is no. 1

  • @canada87699
    @canada87699 10 місяців тому

    I would say the Carson Wentz trade for Washington

  • @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj
    @ChrisTammaro-qu9mj Рік тому

    TPS had to only go back to 2000's for this list cause Hershal Walker was probably the worst trade in NFL history almost USA sports* any NBA trade with Danny Ainge as GM almost as bad!!!! Dudes robbed ever team trying to do business with him greatest GM in history and is still fleecing these clowns!!!!!!!!!