Im really relieved to know that Im not to the only person in the world who cannot understand knitting charts.I suffered silentlyfrom my inability.I love knitting but couldnt progress.But now,with all these lovely teachers on YOUTube I have confidence to try reading knitting charts .❤🎉😊
There is nothing to demonstrate with your stitches or hands. Your eyes simply pass over the "no stitch" symbol(s) while your hands and stitches stay completely still.
Thanks so much for this simple and logical explanation of what "No Stitch" means! Don't know why this couldn't be included in a several-page lace scarf pattern that does explain other techniques, for us first lace timers
what do you do with the stitch? just leave it on the needle or drop it if i can't slip it. despite the instructions, something has to happen to it. it can't just disappear
Don't overthink this. As I said in the video, the no stitch symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. Nothing happens with your knitting. You are not ignoring any actual stitches, you are just skipping that square of the chart.
@@thechillydog So wouldn't it just be better to say you just skip over that? I'm totally with Xenia. I mean, I think I get what you're saying, "just skip that bit" more or less. Right? But it's still very confusing. :(
@@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 so we’re not slipping, right? Instead I leave it on my left needle, and “move on” to the next stitch? So that no stitch just falls off? Yah I need to see it I guess 😞
For anyone reading this and still wondering...I think I finally get it...and if I'm wrong I wish to be corrected straight away. It just means "Skip that part of the graph" Skip it. Whether it's one "no stitch" or however many. When you come to that bit in the chart, just go right on to the next stitch instruction, whatever it is. At the end of the row, you should be all right. Just count your stitches at the end of the row to be sure you have what you're supposed to have. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@RichardSmith-ri2pr I've worked my graph without issues since reaching this realization. It's a pity something so simple has been made out to be something so hard and stressful. I'm thankful it helped you Richard. : )
This is my first time doing anything more than basic knitting and purling. (The kids are old enough now to not interrupt so much lol) . Your videos are clear and extremely helpful!
I’ve been knitting for 20+ years, can read color work, double knitting and simple cable charts. I have made cabled headbands scarves and hats but I’m beginning the moby sweater and I’m so confused. I’ve knitted sweaters before just not a cabled one. This video helped a bit. Thanks!
I have 116 sts on my needle My chart calls for 10 st repeat with 3 no sts on left side and 2 no sts in the beginning when I finish the round it says I should have 145 st how do we solve this?
OMG! This is so helpful. I was so lost in a pattern and more concerned with counting. This is a perfect explanation- just skip over it! Ha! Thank you!!
Thank you Ellen for such a wonderful Instriction - simply spoken and very helpful. I want to share I finished my Switchback Sock Gift for my brother. I chose 64 sts wide but I've realized maybe 60 would have been better. I washed and blocked the socks and they didn't shrink much but I know he will love them. I'll be able to make more accurate socks next time. Currently I'm making some Lacey Socks from French Girl Knits book and that why I had to look up this term "No Stitch' . Hope you are well and happy. With love, Lori
thanks for explaining this. My cable pattern doesn't have a square or a key showing it's a 'no stitch', it just has nothing for 3 spaces either side of a centre stitch. Do the blanks represent 'no stitch'?
It's possible, but usually a blank (unshaded) square represents stockinette st, k on the RS, p on the WS. If the square is shaded and blank (no symbol inside) than it is most likely 'no stitch'.
I think you mean slip a stitch not skip a stitch. Think of the symbols as an action rather than a stitch on your needles. The action related to the "slip" symbol is moving (slipping) a stitch from the left needle to the right without working it. The action related to "no stitch" is to sit still and don't move your hands.
Let your eyes just pass across those 3 "no stitch" squares while your hands stay still. Your hands can start knitting again with the next square of the chart.
I hope someone can help.... Im following a commercially produced pattern from a store, not a chart. So when you see K0 or P0 in a pattern, what is it you actually DO with that particular stitch?? Do you simply "slip" those stitches over? Do you knit two together etc? You cant leave them on the needle, so "something" has to be done with these stitches. So what is it you actually meant to do with a "0" stitch?? Im about to make an Aran cable sweater for someone as a gift, and this "0" instruction now begins to appear in the pattern within the first few rows after the ribbing has been completed and now changing the needle size for the main pattern has occurred. I appreciate anyone's answer on this please. Thank you!
K0 and p0 are used in patterns when the directions are written for multiple sizes. Some of the sizes require you to knit or purl a certain number of stitches at that point in the pattern, but one (or more) of the sizes don't require you to knit or purl anything. So if you see a k0 or p0 for the size you are making don't do anything with your hands and let your eyes move on to the next part of the directions and start knitting again.
Hi @thechillydog ! So I'm in a similar predicament / having a hard time visualizing the K0... so would you be letting that stitch go? If a row has 30 stitches but starts with a K0, would you in theory have 29 stitches at the end of the row? You're not slipping, but it has to get off of the needle to get to the next stitch, so is it just decreasing (but in a different way than knitting two together)?
It would just be a video of me sitting completely still. There is nothing to demonstrate because there is no physical motion to be made when you see that symbol.
Hello, I think it is still confusing for a lot of people, including me ;) because: if you have for example 4 stitches on your needle and chart, and in the next row there's a 'no stitch box' on stitches one and three for example, you still have the 4 stitches on the needle, you cannot 'ignore' a stitch on your needle, it's still there! So, what do you do in the next round with stitches 1 and 3? If I would just ignore stitches 1 and 3, stitch 2 will become stitch 1.... and stitch 4 will become stitch 3? I find that strange because in that case it seems like the design is not correct anymore! I am really confused. TIA for help!
The "no stitch" symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. You're not ignoring a stitch on your needle because there is no actual stitch on your needle corresponding to the charted square. That is why you simply pass over the "no stitch" square with your eyes and don't do anything with your knitting. Hope that helps.
@@thechillydog Hey, no problem, I have figured it out yesterday, and I know why and when people get confused! Indeed, the no stitch box shows a stitch that has been decreased in the previous round. People get confused in the first decrease round, I think. At that moment, your chart shows all the stitches you have worked, in the next and first decrease round, the stitches that become a 'no stitch box', are the ones needed for the decrease. So, you need to explain that the 'no stitch boxes' are the places where stitches have been decreased, where two stitches became one ;) ... I was confused, because in my case, my first stitch of the round, becomes a no stitch box in the first decrease round, the second is a knitted one, the third and fourth K2tog, so my first stitch suddenly needs to be part of the last K2togtbl of the round.... seemed a bit strange to me, but I have found a solution ;)
It would be a very short, boring video of me sitting absolutely still. Nothing is done with your knitting when you come to the "no stitch" symbol in a chart. Your eyes simply move across the chart, past the "no stitch" symbol (or symbols) and your hands don't do anything at all.
Neither. It's not a stitch, it's a placeholder on the chart. Look at the "no stitch" symbol on the chart and sit completely still. Don't move your hands, yarn, stitches, needles, nothing. Then move your eyes to the next symbol on the chart.
You're overthinking this. You don't do anything. As stated in the video, the symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. It doesn't correspond to any stitches that are on your needles.
The no stitch symbol is not a decrease, it's just a placeholder in the chart. It is used when the charted rows/rnds have a different number of stitches across (for example, one row is worked across 8 stitches and another row only has 6 stitches). If you need to do an extra uncharted decrease instead of moving on to the next stitch, it most likely means that somehow you added stitches into your knitting that weren't part of the chart. Knit happens ;)
Unfortunately, there's really nothing to show except for me sitting perfectly still. As stated in the video the symbol is a placeholder on the chart. It does not correspond to any stitch on your needle or any motion with your hands. When you get to she symbol just sit still, do nothing, and move your eyes to the next chart symbol.
@@thechillydog and then the ignored no stitch gets pushed off the needle when you skip over it and do the next few, say, knitting stitches, right? How hard is it to film you doing this?????????????????????
Yes. Whether you have one "no stitch" square or five you do the same thing. Your eyes move past the "no stitch" symbol(s) on the chart while your hands remain completely still. Knitting resumes with the next symbol after the "no stitch".
This was no helpful at all lol, not trying to be mean it's there are so many comments saying this explained it. You didn't tell us what to actually do with the stitch that we aren't supposed to work. Are we supposed to slip it? I'm assuming you don't just drop the stitch. Do you just pretend like that part of the pattern isn't there and work the next stitch (that was labeled "no stitch") as if it's the next in the pattern? I'm so confused
Im really relieved to know that Im not to the only person in the world who cannot understand knitting charts.I suffered silentlyfrom my inability.I love knitting but couldnt progress.But now,with all these lovely teachers on YOUTube I have confidence to try reading knitting charts .❤🎉😊
Please can you show how this is done. Place holder? what is this? Please demonstrate on the said pattern.
There is nothing to demonstrate with your stitches or hands. Your eyes simply pass over the "no stitch" symbol(s) while your hands and stitches stay completely still.
Thanks so much for this simple and logical explanation of what "No Stitch" means! Don't know why this couldn't be included in a several-page lace scarf pattern that does explain other techniques, for us first lace timers
what do you do with the stitch? just leave it on the needle or drop it if i can't slip it. despite the instructions, something has to happen to it. it can't just disappear
Don't overthink this. As I said in the video, the no stitch symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. Nothing happens with your knitting. You are not ignoring any actual stitches, you are just skipping that square of the chart.
@@thechillydog So wouldn't it just be better to say you just skip over that? I'm totally with Xenia. I mean, I think I get what you're saying, "just skip that bit" more or less. Right? But it's still very confusing. :(
Just imagine that no stitch square was never there, it's simply just to fill space
@@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 Thank you : )
@@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 so we’re not slipping, right? Instead I leave it on my left needle, and “move on” to the next stitch? So that no stitch just falls off? Yah I need to see it I guess 😞
For anyone reading this and still wondering...I think I finally get it...and if I'm wrong I wish to be corrected straight away. It just means "Skip that part of the graph" Skip it. Whether it's one "no stitch" or however many. When you come to that bit in the chart, just go right on to the next stitch instruction, whatever it is. At the end of the row, you should be all right. Just count your stitches at the end of the row to be sure you have what you're supposed to have. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you for your comment, Angel. I was struggling with the concept and your explanation really worked for me.
@@RichardSmith-ri2pr I've worked my graph without issues since reaching this realization. It's a pity something so simple has been made out to be something so hard and stressful. I'm thankful it helped you Richard. : )
now this makes sense to me, thank you!
Well worded! Moving on to the next stitch doing the next action. So smart!
Thanks ! I finally get it!
Thank you for explaining 'no stitch' - had me stumped!!
i did not help me. I wish you have showed it in the pattern you have. Im more of a visual person.
This is my first time doing anything more than basic knitting and purling. (The kids are old enough now to not interrupt so much lol) . Your videos are clear and extremely helpful!
I’ve been knitting for 20+ years, can read color work, double knitting and simple cable charts. I have made cabled headbands scarves and hats but I’m beginning the moby sweater and I’m so confused. I’ve knitted sweaters before just not a cabled one. This video helped a bit. Thanks!
Just in time, I was going to attempt a chart pattern which looked like Egyptian hieroglyphs.
This explanation blew my mind. The no stitch thing actually makes sense now! Thank you!!!
I have 116 sts on my needle My chart calls for 10 st repeat with 3 no sts on left side and 2 no sts in the beginning when I finish the round it says I should have 145 st how do we solve this?
Doing the birdsong sweater pattern and just got to the first row of the pattern. I panicked! Thank you!
Is a no stitch an actual stitch on your needle and you just ignore it and go to the next stitch leaving it unworked?
The symbol is just a placeholder on the chart. The symbol does not correspond to any stitches on your needles.
@@thechillydog please create a video of this one row in knitting showing how to do this ! Visual learner over here!
@@charlibabe Hi Charlotte. It would be a video of me sitting completely still. There is no physical action related to the "no stitch" symbol.
How to knit upside down U means? Thanks
OMG! This is so helpful. I was so lost in a pattern and more concerned with counting. This is a perfect explanation- just skip over it! Ha! Thank you!!
You're welcome. This is probably the easiest (yet most confusing) thing knitters are confronted with in charts. Happy knitting! 💖
Do I slip the 3 stitches to the right needle?
Oh, thanks a lot, you saved my sanity! 😊
What is this symbols mean’s (-) thanks?
I had figured out it worked with the decreases but was still unsure. As soon as you explained it, the light bulb went on lol!!
Thank you Ellen for such a wonderful Instriction - simply spoken and very helpful.
I want to share I finished my Switchback Sock Gift for my brother. I chose 64 sts wide but I've realized maybe 60 would have been better. I washed and blocked the socks and they didn't shrink much but I know he will love them. I'll be able to make more accurate socks next time.
Currently I'm making some Lacey Socks from French Girl Knits book and that why I had to look up this term "No Stitch' .
Hope you are well and happy.
With love,
Lori
Yay! Glad to hear you finished your brothers socks. I hope he enjoys them and realizes he has a pretty cool sister.
thank you I couldn’t figure out 16 st in grey st marker followed by 16 shaded stitches on chart; different!!
thanks for explaining this. My cable pattern doesn't have a square or a key showing it's a 'no stitch', it just has nothing for 3 spaces either side of a centre stitch. Do the blanks represent 'no stitch'?
It's possible, but usually a blank (unshaded) square represents stockinette st, k on the RS, p on the WS. If the square is shaded and blank (no symbol inside) than it is most likely 'no stitch'.
@@thechillydog ok. Thankyou. It does seem unusual as it has 3 blank spaces (no square at all) then a blank square, then 3 blank (no squares) again.
So what is the difference between no stich to skip a stich? Do you have a video to show that difference?
I think you mean slip a stitch not skip a stitch. Think of the symbols as an action rather than a stitch on your needles. The action related to the "slip" symbol is moving (slipping) a stitch from the left needle to the right without working it. The action related to "no stitch" is to sit still and don't move your hands.
But I end up either extra stitches at the end of the row
So when it says no stitch for 3 squares what do you do how do you work it
Let your eyes just pass across those 3 "no stitch" squares while your hands stay still. Your hands can start knitting again with the next square of the chart.
I hope someone can help.... Im following a commercially produced pattern from a store, not a chart. So when you see K0 or P0 in a pattern, what is it you actually DO with that particular stitch?? Do you simply "slip" those stitches over? Do you knit two together etc? You cant leave them on the needle, so "something" has to be done with these stitches. So what is it you actually meant to do with a "0" stitch?? Im about to make an Aran cable sweater for someone as a gift, and this "0" instruction now begins to appear in the pattern within the first few rows after the ribbing has been completed and now changing the needle size for the main pattern has occurred. I appreciate anyone's answer on this please. Thank you!
K0 and p0 are used in patterns when the directions are written for multiple sizes. Some of the sizes require you to knit or purl a certain number of stitches at that point in the pattern, but one (or more) of the sizes don't require you to knit or purl anything. So if you see a k0 or p0 for the size you are making don't do anything with your hands and let your eyes move on to the next part of the directions and start knitting again.
Hi @thechillydog ! So I'm in a similar predicament / having a hard time visualizing the K0... so would you be letting that stitch go? If a row has 30 stitches but starts with a K0, would you in theory have 29 stitches at the end of the row? You're not slipping, but it has to get off of the needle to get to the next stitch, so is it just decreasing (but in a different way than knitting two together)?
This may be a real stupid question but do we just slip on that no stitch? Possibly not right,? For us newbies it can be confusing….ty
The no stitch symbol is just a place holder in the chart. Your hands don't move at all as your eyes pass over the symbol.
Great explanation, I couldn't figure out what it meant!
I’m still confused. I’m a visual learner can you knit something with a no stitch pattern?
It would just be a video of me sitting completely still. There is nothing to demonstrate because there is no physical motion to be made when you see that symbol.
Hello, I think it is still confusing for a lot of people, including me ;) because: if you have for example 4 stitches on your needle and chart, and in the next row there's a 'no stitch box' on stitches one and three for example, you still have the 4 stitches on the needle, you cannot 'ignore' a stitch on your needle, it's still there! So, what do you do in the next round with stitches 1 and 3? If I would just ignore stitches 1 and 3, stitch 2 will become stitch 1.... and stitch 4 will become stitch 3? I find that strange because in that case it seems like the design is not correct anymore! I am really confused. TIA for help!
The "no stitch" symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. You're not ignoring a stitch on your needle because there is no actual stitch on your needle corresponding to the charted square. That is why you simply pass over the "no stitch" square with your eyes and don't do anything with your knitting. Hope that helps.
@@thechillydog Hey, no problem, I have figured it out yesterday, and I know why and when people get confused! Indeed, the no stitch box shows a stitch that has been decreased in the previous round. People get confused in the first decrease round, I think. At that moment, your chart shows all the stitches you have worked, in the next and first decrease round, the stitches that become a 'no stitch box', are the ones needed for the decrease. So, you need to explain that the 'no stitch boxes' are the places where stitches have been decreased, where two stitches became one ;) ... I was confused, because in my case, my first stitch of the round, becomes a no stitch box in the first decrease round, the second is a knitted one, the third and fourth K2tog, so my first stitch suddenly needs to be part of the last K2togtbl of the round.... seemed a bit strange to me, but I have found a solution ;)
@@thechillydog Forgot to thank you for the reply :) so thanks a lot and have a nice day, happy knitting ;)!
Glad you got it and happy knitting to you as well. 💕
Aa A Finnish person doing A scarf on english this helpped A lot thank you for The simpel explanation😁✌️
Can you please supply a video on how to do this? It's driving me to distraction!
It would be a very short, boring video of me sitting absolutely still. Nothing is done with your knitting when you come to the "no stitch" symbol in a chart. Your eyes simply move across the chart, past the "no stitch" symbol (or symbols) and your hands don't do anything at all.
Thanks. Great explanation!
Still don't understand the no stitch 😔 must it be skipped or just knit ordinary
Neither. It's not a stitch, it's a placeholder on the chart. Look at the "no stitch" symbol on the chart and sit completely still. Don't move your hands, yarn, stitches, needles, nothing. Then move your eyes to the next symbol on the chart.
Thank you for your video!
This help me so much,thanks
Can someone explain what to do with the no stitch?
You're overthinking this. You don't do anything. As stated in the video, the symbol is simply a placeholder in the chart. It doesn't correspond to any stitches that are on your needles.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question🙏
Thank you for soothing my panic!!!!!!
Thank you so much
Thank you so much! This is so extremely helpful!!!
thank you so much!!
why not just decrease then still dont get it...i dont land on the proper stitch by just doing nothing
The no stitch symbol is not a decrease, it's just a placeholder in the chart. It is used when the charted rows/rnds have a different number of stitches across (for example, one row is worked across 8 stitches and another row only has 6 stitches). If you need to do an extra uncharted decrease instead of moving on to the next stitch, it most likely means that somehow you added stitches into your knitting that weren't part of the chart. Knit happens ;)
Makes sense! Thanks for sharing!
Probably would have been better if you actually showed it.
Unfortunately, there's really nothing to show except for me sitting perfectly still. As stated in the video the symbol is a placeholder on the chart. It does not correspond to any stitch on your needle or any motion with your hands. When you get to she symbol just sit still, do nothing, and move your eyes to the next chart symbol.
@@thechillydog and then the ignored no stitch gets pushed off the needle when you skip over it and do the next few, say, knitting stitches, right? How hard is it to film you doing this?????????????????????
Ok, now I get it. Thanks.
what happens if you have 5 or more than one of those squares? The same?
Yes. Whether you have one "no stitch" square or five you do the same thing. Your eyes move past the "no stitch" symbol(s) on the chart while your hands remain completely still. Knitting resumes with the next symbol after the "no stitch".
So the "no stitch" is effectively ignored, and we just move on to the next stitch, correct? My brain clearly needs a bit more confirmation. LOL
You are 100% correct! No need to second guess yourself. :)
Thank you!@@thechillydog
No help at all !!
This was no helpful at all lol, not trying to be mean it's there are so many comments saying this explained it. You didn't tell us what to actually do with the stitch that we aren't supposed to work. Are we supposed to slip it? I'm assuming you don't just drop the stitch. Do you just pretend like that part of the pattern isn't there and work the next stitch (that was labeled "no stitch") as if it's the next in the pattern? I'm so confused
No stitch means just slip that stitch?
Not quite. The "no stitch" symbol means that you don't do anything at all with your knitting. Just move on to the next symbol in the chart.
@@thechillydog Thank you very much for replying. Now I understand.