SP Daylight 4449 - Milwaukee to Minneapolis
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Catch me if you can!
After departing an hour behind schedule from Milwaukee WI, Southern Pacific GS4 4-8-4 4449 makes a very fast run back to Minneapolis MN, arriving a good hour ahead of schedule.
August 3, 2009
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One of the most beautiful and astounding steam locomotives ever made. And that whistle. Bone-chilling. Love this train.
Jeramiah Holland honestly I think the 261 is better but that's my opinion
SP&S 700 is an awesome steam locomotive!
My thoughts exactly. Enjoyed this completely.
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There's nothing like a steam engine and a five-chime steam whistle across the valley! My memory from 6 years old and I'm now pushing 70! The southern Pacific Daylight is probably the finest looking steam engine ever to roll on rails
Southern Pacific 4449 is always a thrill to observe in operation and it has a unique and attractive paint scheme to accompany it's streamlined skirting design. I always enjoy seeing the 4449 race along the tracks at speed and I really enjoy hearing that whistle, from my perspective the 4449's whistle sounded best during the time period of 1984-2009 which I enjoyed the best.
Proud to say my father help build this monster at the Lima (Ohio) Locomotive Works.
I would love to personally thank him because this is my favorite engine ever built
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@TRAINGUY 4449hi
Cool. I've been inside the cab of the Daylight at the museum that it is restored at on a day that the museum was closed
Well that's 👍
Beautiful! Just Beautiful!
Good steady footage is hard to come by!
This and the Union Big Boy. My two favorite steam engines ever made.
Very very nice picturization. Steam train is nowadays became a dream. Many many thanks
@SteamTrainVideos.com How does one go about riding aboard SP 4449? It's at the top of my bucket list!
Driving that would be the coolest job I can think of
anyone else here think 4449 should run a full daylight painted train sometime soon?
like if you agree!
i dont think the cars are around anymore, and if they are friends of 4449 doesn't own them sadly. maybe down the line, UP will restore a set and take on 4449.
There are Daylight cars around. Several of them are located at the Oregon Rail Heritage Center (ORHC): DLMX Baggage car 5659 Gordon N. Zimmerman, DLMX Steam generator car 8645 Little Boy (soon to pe painted into Empire Builder colors), DLMX Sleeper car 2444 Magnolia Grove (soon to be painted into Sunset Limited colors), DLMX coach car 1210 Plum Creek (soon to be painted into Daylight colors), DLMX Lounge car 498 Travelers Rest (currently painted in NP North Coast Limited colors, but I've been told that next time it needs to be repainted, they will do Daylight colors), PNWC coach car 6800 Red River, and DLMX Round end observation car 2955 James J. Gilmore. Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad (OCSR) in Tillamook has one Daylight coach car NRM/OCSR 2202, and one Daylight baggage ex MLIX 202 (now OCSR 202). There is a Daylight Combine car in Beaverton, Oregon PNWC 3300 Miln D. Gillespie. There is a set of Daylight cars in California on the Northwestern Pacific Railroad (NWP) that are being restored to operational condition in Los Angeles, California. Niles Canyon Railway (NCRY) has a Daylight coach car (297) if I remember correctly, a Daylight triple-unit Diner car, and a Daylight heavyweight RPO car. Orange Empire Railway Museum (OERM) has at least one Daylight car that I remember. Golden Gate Railroad Museum (GGRM) has one Daylight car. Montana Rail Link (MRL) has a twin-unit Daylight coach car set currently in use on their executive OCS train, painted in MRL colors. There was a twin-unit Daylight car set that was permanently wrecked in an accident on the Algoma Central Railroad (ACR) in Canada. Two Shasta Daylight RPO cars owned by Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation (ORHF) were just sold, no idea where to. California State Railroad Museum Foundation (CSRMF) in Sacramento has two Daylight cars that ran once behind SP 4449. UP's heritage passenger car fleet also has several ex SP passenger cars (at least a few that had been known to previously be in Daylight colors), now running behind UP 844 and UP 4014. The UP shop complex in Cheyenne, Wyoming also has a heavyweight Daylight car, hidden away behind the roundhouse. Private car Overland Trail (that was once in Daylight colors) is now one of two private cars leased to the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad (WMSR). One other former Daylight car survives somewhere on the east coast.
Oh Hell Ya!
And in Missouri there is GS-6 #4460
The diesel supplies electricity for heating,lighting and air conditioning to the train,dynamic braking where necessary,and an emergency push if there is a major failure on the steam locomotive.
After spend the day at Train Festival 2009 at Owosso, Michigan, Southern Pacific Daylight 4-8-4 GS-4 4449 was on her way home to Portland, Oregon
Arrrrrrr Maties, it's Captain Forty-nine Sparrow and her trusty first mate, Diesel Gibbs!
4 of the 8 downvotes as of this comment are probably people upset about the diesel, the other 4 are doubtless people whining about seeing a loco with equipment from other roadnames behind her.
I hear the diesel chugging as the train passes by early on, but it definitely sounds like it's in idle, only running to supply HEP. The movement and the speed are all 4449. Take note, people who do showcase videos of your model Daylights in operation: they should not spend the entire video meandering along like a recreational excursion train.
You're correct about the diesel. I've talked with the 4449 guys and they said the diesel is there for insurance; They run on Amtrak's cheaper insurance and to qualify for that they have to have an Amtrak engine in the consist. They almost never use the diesel for power; it idles or is turned off. Rarely even provides HEP. And if you don't like a diesel in your picture, well, that's what photoshop is for.
+Benjamin Carpenter could it also be possible if the diesel broke down?
+Xxxkingdoge43xx Navales It would be unlikely. Not to mention the fact that the train would be without heat or air conditioning. 4449 can't produce enough juice to support a modern excursion train.
Benjamin Carpenter
Hence the generator car
But then we loop around to the fact that the diesel (at this point) is necessary for insurance requirements.
Love that orange and black steam train big wheels turning fast on the track to Minnesota wonderful job keep it up bless you
(not Kaitlynn) Very cool, I see it has some Milwaukee Railroad Hiawatha Coaches. The end car for sure. The Milwaukee F7 Locomotive was very nice looking and the fastest steam engine it is said to have run at 120 mph. To bad all were scrapped. Not to take anything away from this beauty.
In my opinion it's the best looking steam locomotive ever
I love the sounds of the steam engine coming to and go going!!! Its beautiful and peaceful!! :)
A majestic video.
Why wasn't I aware of this 10 years ago?!? Ilive an hour north of the Twin Cities, and I have the Skyfire documentary of this legendary beauty!!
Also, at first I though the video was sped up. She was booking it!!
Damn that thing can move
Brett Robart ikr
sp 4449 is my. favorite train
great video of this excursion
Great Video!! My friends and I must have been standing right next to you in Minnesota City because we all got that same shot!! I love all of your shots and to think the 4449 was just out here in 09 still blows me away! I had a great time chasing and working on here when she was here in town!
Love that steam whistle.
What a beauty, I tell you. That is one such fantastic powerful locomotive you've got there. It's clean and it's fast enough :)
Mick Carso
i love how they use Milwaukee road passenger cars to try and keep as much realism as possible. i just wish they had a P42 fleet painted by amtrak in daylight livery with Southern Pacific Lines on the sides. i also wish that they could paint all those coaches in daylight livery.
+Noah whitehouse (BNSF9643) I'm pretty certain those are privately owned cars to start with, because I see many of the same cars behind Milwaukee Road 261.
I wish 4449 had matching cars like in the 90's..
LoneSniperSG me too.
+LoneSniperSG Well, when she's closer to her home shed she often borrows her old streamlined observation car.
They need to have this thing running next to 261
Most beautiful steam train ever 💕
I know guys, there is actually no need to paste music into this BUT: just do it at 3:19 with "Choo choo ch´boggie" from Louis Jordan and i think you´ll all see it´s just perfection :) Everytime i listen to this song this scene is running through my head!
This is one of the best chase videos ever.
@salemcripple Amen. They are amazingly majestic machines that can't be fully appreciated until they are in motion. The fact that 4449 was saved at all was a sheer stroke of luck. If it hadn't been for one fateful phone call, nobody would know what a Daylight steam locomotive was.
4449 is really leggin' it...she's one gorgeous track star!
Southern Pacific gs-4 4449 is my favorite train.
This is how great machines should be remembered. On the road, doing what they were meant to do (while still being cared for of course). Not coped up in a museum someplace.
Very good , Great compilation ….Dave
Superb video and wonderful to see one these magnificent locos at speed! I loved the side by side chase along the highway - breath taking! Was she doing about 70 mph?
Thanks for a great video from Ken in Scotland UK
@Trackagerights This was a ferry move (w/ tickets sold) to return the 4449 and Friends of the 261 coaches to Minneapolis after Train Festival in Owosso, MI. This consist traveled from Chicago to Minneapolis. I believe the other coaches were dropped off in Chicago.
Sure hope one of Wisconsin's or Minnesota's finest didn't write the driver a speeding ticket while was pacing the 4449!
With doyle at the helm! She currently resides in portland oregon at the oregon rail heritage center.
Does anyone get turned off the fact theres a Amtrak behind the engine?
What a magnificent looking machine
Great clip. When working hard out of that station, why was there no billowing steam? Does it have a condenser?
@Conductor261 Yeah, I was closest to the tracks and there were probably 2-3 guys next to me. Hard to believe it was already 2 years ago. I hope 261 is running again in 2012.
great work!
while watching this video you can truly feel the speed :)
My dieing wish to be on the footplate of 4449 or 844 flying down the rails at70mph and hanging on to that whistle cord and making it sing its beautiful song. Music to my ears.
Southern Pacífic Daylight 4449 gs4
I'd pay to see this again, I was 5 when this happened
American trains locomotives are the legendary
Amazing footage. And nice sceneries/landscapes too ... :-)
@deloreanman14 exactly! And yet you get people who say they should be scrapped or pent up, collecting dust in the corner of some rail museum somewhere.
3:23 Now.. Thats Racing The southern Pacific... your car must be really fast.. yes i mean REALLY REALLY REALLY FAST. Speed is key!!!!!!!!!!! *jumps off train car roof*
He's gotta be hitting maybe 80, roughly 90 MPH. Guy's lucky the cops weren't around. I don't think "I was chasing Daylight!" would work as an excuse for speeding. But it'd be damn worth it!
SP 4449 was only doing 79 MPH, as allowed by Amtrak and BNSF safety regulations for passenger trains. I work with a retired FRA official who said that 4449 only hit 80 MPH top speed on this trip.
Sick. Great vid. That hd really helps pick up the running gear motion on the pacing. Putting it out on dvd?
I didn't know Daylight had 2 tenders. Now America has its OWN Flying Scotsman.
Does anyone know if this double-tendered Daylight is available anywhere as Train Simulator DLC? Or Trainz?
double tender isnt something new in america, any excursion steam locomotive in america requires a water tender if travelling on longer distance route
Forget the swine flu shot, if you have SP4449 steam fever, this is the cure! & Thanks for posting this !
I'd love to see Southern Pacific 4449 was sold to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America.
Wonder if this Orange Beauty will over show up in Texas? After all, SP was big here in Texas. After all, UP often run their Big Boys round these parts every so often, like to see SP follow suit.
Has this engine been modified to run on an alternate fuel ? Seems to be lack of steam from this beauty.
It runs on recycled motor oil.
I miss its old whistle.
Why doesn’t southern pacific give 4449 it’s proper coaches just cause it’s a steam engine doesn’t mean it doesn’t deserve respect
Southern Pacific was bought by Union Pacific in 1996. And the most of the remaining coaches are owned by other people not the railroad.
@deloreanman14 I think rail fans would still know what the daylight was. I know i would! Especially since i live in the city where it is stored, and has made it's "home" since it's decommissioning.
Are they ever going to do this run again? I want to be on it.
7:01 the amtrack has a pirate flag
THEY ARE RAIDING MINNESOTA
obrigado por postar este belo vídeo
ha! someone could get lost in Wisconsin and end up in Sparta and ask someone what town it is and then they hear: THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!! XD
How are your sales on the 425 dvd's?
Len.
PS. Great pace work! 5/5
To throw a driver connecting rod at those speeds would be catastrophic
Great video!
What kind of camcorder do you use? It takes awesome video!
Alex
Interesting, the nature is the same as our country Indonesia. Greetings from Indonesia.
Can u play it at normal speed? This video is sped up.
How much speed?
Between 60-65mph.
Thanks!
Eu acho que 67 kmph
Entre 5:29
80 MPH.
I'm british and that's one of my most favorite lcomotive's in the world. It would be cool if that loco and its passenger cars could come and do a tour of england like how flying scotsman had done a tour of america in 1969 - 1972.
3:40 awesome side by side encounter! How fast were you and the train going?
I would guess somewhere between 65-70 mph.
Top speed allowed here is 80 MPH.
the Amtrak does nothing actually. It just supplies power to all the cars.
Just pure sweetness !! ))
how come union pacific is the only company that lets their trains use coaches will the same paint scheme. nowadays, trains like day light or other random steamies pull mixed random coaches with different shapes and paint schemes.
most of the time they had to leased the cars from private owners, thats why you see many different typenof cars with many railroad scheme
0:56 THIS IS SPARTA!
To bigdan4712..... FYI I have ridden behind 4449 at better than 70 mph many times. This locomotive the way it is maintained by the Friends of 4449 and Doyle is every bit as capable of speeds of in excess of 90mph as when it was built. Amtrash unit is probably in worse mechanical shape than this 65+ year old locomotive.
i actually never knew that daylight could have two tenders
Angel Leaf *undercover gamer* neither did I
yes I has 2 tenders because it runs of fuel so it's diesel and a steam train
SP&S 700 also has two tenders. The second tender is an auxiliary tender, PRPX # 2575, an ex Great Northern tender of off GN 4-8-4 # 2575.
I've seen this train 10 times 😁😁😁😁
My favourite train
How fast that train was going!?
80 MPH.
Lovely train
how fast was 4449 bookin it???
Left an hour behind arrived an hour ahead, wow. You must've been just screaming down i94 to get in front of her.
do any of you love the daylight
Yes.
Is this the run to the Fr of 261? Or a run FOR them? Cause it's all MILW, sans the MKT, and I KNOW she left with more than that when we setn her out of Michigan
07:00 - the Amtrak diesel locomotive is a pirate.
What tape is this from?
lol Left an hour late and was almost an hour early!!! Take about highballing it!!! they must have just let the throttle go and let her run lol
Ok cool! Thank you!
Alex
That is the smoothest whistle ive ever heard (except for the 261its a tie!!)
@salemcripple - People would know what it was but I think it's best if you compare it to a Pennsylvania RR T1 steam locomotive; around 50 were build and none were preserved. I can't help but look at that and say, "Wow...must have been amazing to see that in real life."
*Gotta Go Fast*
@typebangin Yup that was my friends and I standing next to you! Yeah 261 should be up and running by late spring or Early Summer of 2012! :)
Around 65mph most of the time
What kind of whistle is 4449 wearing in this video
A Hancock 3 Chime (3 Note) Long-Bell superheated steam whistle. This particular whistle was a Northern Pacific (NP) 3 Chime loaned to the SP 4449 by the SP&S 700 group. The SP 4449 wore the NP Hancock 3 Chime until 2015. The SP 4449 now wears an authentic, prototypically correct SP GS-4 Daylight whistle that was acquired for the SP 4449 in 2015. SP GS-4's had Hancock 3 Chime (3 Note) Hancock Long-Bell superheated steam whistles as well. When the SP 4449 was restored to operation in 1974, it wore an SP&S Z-8 whistle from 1974-1989, off of SP&S 4-6-6-4 Challenger # 911, which ended up on SP&S 700. The SP&S 700 has worn the Z-8 whistle from 1989 to the present. The SP 4449 was later given an SP 6 Chime (like SP 2472's whistle) in the 1980's. SP 4449 was best known for the NP 3 Chime whistle that it wore from 1990 until 2015. SP 4449 currently wears the SP GS-4 whistle as mentioned above. The SP 4449 crew thought it best to have SP 4449 wear an authentic SP GS-4 whistle off of SP GS-4 # 4452. It's believed that SP 4452's whistle may actually be the SP 4449's original whistle from when it was built in 1941. The SP changed the whistles frequently on the GS-4's when they wore out. SP was able to recondition the whistles on their GS-4's and return them to their rightful place on a GS-4. I was told that SP GS-4 # 4452 wore SP 4449's original whistle from when it was built in 1941, so SP 4449 now wears it's original 1941 SP GS-4 whistle!
Nice Video
Absolutely gorgeous
Awesome! :-D