Janoel 12 Incubator Review
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2018
- From turning it on for the first time, to hatching out some chicks, we look at this Janoel 12 Incubator, and see if its any good.
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I just received my Janoel 12 today and am trying to educate myself on all things incubator :) Thanks so much - very informative!
How did your hatching go? Thinking of buying:)
Where did you get it
I got my Janoel 12 today so your video has proved very useful. Once the chicks have fluffed up and are dry, then, definitely I would move them out to a draft-less enclosure with an infra-red heat lamp.
My husband ordered this exact model. I was surprised he did because he is normally not into aiding the natural order of things. :) But this incubator actually came with the thermometer/humidistat included. I want to thank you for the UA-cam, though, because the directions are so poorly written. I felt like pulling out a red pencil and marking them up. We start our first round in a few days after testing the whole thing out. Thanks again.
Just had my first one Hatch looks like a pom pom headed type , I just got a mix of eggs from a farm hopefully I get a few more he was five days early . I'm happy with the product and thanks for the guidance
That's great news! I love the Pom Pom headed description :)
Great review.
I usually take it the set temp has been reached and maintained if the display stays the same. If the work light is on the temp has dropped and the heater is back on.
I have the 24 egg size of this brand. It does nothing at all. Cant even calibrate it. Usually the incubators have a +/- setting for the heat to stop and start.
I bought a humidity/temp guage. Put it in a zip bag with a cap of wet salt for 6 hours to check the humidity. I checked the incubator thermometer with a homebrew glass thermometer, it was correct thankfully.
Im waiting now as today is day 18.
Without a humidity gauge its a night mare. My humidity would range from 20% to 75%. Putting the guage in let me see the drop in humidity and add more water.
Nice vid 😊
Hello, thank you for your video. I accidentally changed the factories HD and HU value. please can you advise me on what the figures originally were. I will be very grateful. Many thanks
I been given my own janoel for my chicken’s eggs and me and my mom are trying to dig in the dirt of the internet so we can know what to do thank you for the ingo
great video! very instructional and the best one I have seen yet, thank you
Thank You :)
Thank you for this video. I have a question, can I use it and do same thing for parakeets eggs ?
I’ve just put some eggs into my janoel 12 for the first time in a few years, just wondering what temperatures have worked the best for you? Thanks
thank you for the video! How much Water did you add to the incubator? 😊
I,m toying with actually doing this to raise about six chicks, looks ok must agree the fan is rather loud, would like to see a video of it being changed also perhaps a video in how to look after your chicks from hatching onwards!👍🏻
I don't know what the spare fuse is for , either the box or the plug ? I hope it doesn't need it one day it doesn't say what amp it is
Just got mine I'll update soon !
Exploring incubators ... not for eggs but for starting plants! What are the internal dimensions?
Hello, is there any way to test the movement? I joust bought it and wondering how to test it.
Also, how much water did u put inside the first time? Thank you
What is the temperature thing called in the incubator the one you brought thank you
Absolute perfect for Parrot Eggs. They are much smaller. What’s about the fan with one you used?
Which day I have to stop the turn and take out the black line, in day 20 or 21? Thank you for helping
Hello, I just got this incubator and I've figured out the temperature and humidity but I'm a little bit confused on the egg turner. Do I have to set it up on the LED screen or will it just automatically turn?
Hi, Thanks for watching the video.
From what I can see, the turner just goes on its own, and it has no settings. I would always advise, to set it up, turn it on, and just check that it is moving the tray before using with eggs. I takes an hour or so to move form one side, to the other. :)
Great video so helpful, I was wondering. Could i turn the eggs myself by hand quickly 3 times a day instead of using the turning plate thingy? I have 12 eggs and they wont fit 😫
Yes you can. However, I would make sure the room is warm, as these are not the best at keeping temperature.
@@AnnoyDad Indeed, i was incubating store bought quail eggs, 1 was fertile but my room was cold, so it ended up dying days before hatch:(
Thank you for your video how many days this eggs inside the incubator until become chicken please reply ❤
I lost the Egg roler and parts. Do you know where I can get them?
Janoel haven't made incubators for years, this is a Chinese company using the name. Trading Standards checked the range of Janoel incubators and none of them conform to UK standards.
What temp and humidity for chickens?
What degrees you set it on and do you put water
Does this contraption use ANY water? Or does it keep humidity from the room?\
I'd be tempted to "sleeve" the thin plastic tray into either a foam base OR spray expandable foam insulation in a frame, to keep the heat inside and constant. While it would block reading humidity or checking temperature on the bottom, I think I'd rather live that that rather than lose all that heat. It also buys time if something goes sideways with the pub in and you don't find it right away on a busy day, or the power goes out for a few hours.
Great point!
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Wondering why you didn’t do an eggtopsy to find out why the third didn’t hatch? The three you discarded before lockdown, were those clears? Quitters?
Would be useful to know as you get a better idea of how well the bator runs compared to what’s going on with the eggs- I appreciate this is a while ago! Thanks
Hi, yes it was a while ago. These incubators seem to have a habit of allowing chicks to grow, and then screwing up in some way, so it kills some. I think it comes down to temperature. We've used these a few times now, and have seen temperature fluctuations.
I don't do eggtopsy, as I don't want to. I'm not a fussy eater, but I know if I started doing egg autopsises, I wouldn't eat eggs anymore, and I like eating eggs :)
Annoy Dad I know what you mean, I’m a bit funny about eggs too haha!
How do you calibrate and what too?
could u use this for reptiles
(Important question below!) Thanks so much! I am incubating 8 call duck eggs in this. I could have fit 9 :). 7 of them were fertilized and showed amazing development. I just put them into lockdown about 10 hours ago and already have a couple doing mini-wiggles!
Now, for lockdown, is it imperative that I don't open the incubator until all eggs are hatched? I have a second Janoel that can act as the brooder once ducklings hatch... would this work okay?!
Hi, thanks for watching :)
With this specific incubator, I have never been able to open it once hatching has started, and then for the remaining eggs not to have any issues. With my Brinsea's and the Curfew, they get back up to temp / humidity really quickly. I would personally wait, until a point where no pips can be seen the remaining eggs, and very quickly grab them out.
Good luck with the hatch, and I hope you get 7 amazing ducks :)
@@AnnoyDad Thanks for the reply! It's now day two (about 32 hours) since lockdown. None of the ducklings have pipped yet. Should I be worried?! :\
Nope, not yet. Typically lockdown happens 3 days before hatch is due.
For example, today is Tuesday, and 3 days ago I put some Turkeys into lock down. They haven't done anything yet, but are due today. I'll give them another 2 days, just in case, and if nothing happens, then candle them again and see whats what. The same is happening with some ducks we have hatching. Some hatched Saturday, and some other today, with a few over.
Its just nature, and a waiting game :)
@@AnnoyDad OMG. Thank you so much. I was freaking out a bit. So, today is Wednesday (10:30 am) and they went into lockdown on Sunday at around 4 pm. Still nothing. But, I candled 3 of them. Two had movement and their air sac is significantly larger than before. However, the air sac is getting way more one-sided since they're not turning anymore. Is this okay? Also, is the growing egg sac a good sign? (I saw no movement in the other one and it doesn't seem as full as the others). Please get back to me as you're my best resource! lol
I'll admit now, I'm not the best with air sacs and knowing what they do. But yes the air will move, once the egg is laid on side, and not being moved.
Did you mean you candled them after lock down? Normally I just leave them. Not a major issues, but I like to let the humidity build a bit, and let that soak the shells a bit.
My Turkeys have finally started hatching. They were due on Tuesday, its 11am Thursday as I write this, and I have 3 hatched. I was going to wait until Friday, but will extend a couple of days.
One of the things to be wary of, is these incubators aren't the best at keeping heat. So if it got a bit cool for a few days during the incubation process, the ducklings may be a few days late, like my turkeys, that I started in an incubator we'd never used before.
Buongiorno ho acquistato circa 1 anno fa questa incubatrice ho avuto buoni risultati con uova di galline normali e quelle nere con riflesso blu .invece le galline moroseta ho provato più volte con pochi risultati o morti dentro l'uovo o spastici raramente sani ! Mi può dare delle indicazioni se sbaglio qualcosa ? Io faccio uguale alla temperatura delle altre uova ...37.5 inizio e ultimi 3 giorni 37.2 grazie
Hi, Thanks for your comment. I can't really help to much, as I've never had that issue myself.
I would suggest buying or borrowing a different brand of incubator, and seeing if you have the same or different results. That way, you can rule out any issues with the eggs, or the parent chickens.
Hi thanks for your video, very helpful but how long and watch temperature etc for hatching and how long you leave chickens in there for ? many thanks
That’s for chicken eggs
How do you add water safely throughout the incubation process . Surely lifting the lid will drop the temperature endangering the embryo?
We only add water on day 18 for chickens. The humidity in the air here in the UK is fine for the main incubation.
You shouldn't lift the lid once they start to pip, but beforehand is ok.
How many quail eggs does it fit?
Need help with humidity as I have 2 geothymometer in it one at the front reads 72% the one on the side reads 65% got duck eggs in atm
I would suspect that the hygrometers aren't as accurate as what they would make you believe. I use them as a rough idea, knowing that they would never be 100% accurate.
How about placing the incubator on a warming tray instead of the cold base? And do you run into cold solder joints when you swap out fans, etc./? that's an easy fix and the first thing I'd attend to.
Mine is a week d and making a loud grinding type of noise??? No idea what to do.. is it ok to take too off to try and diagnose where noise is comping from? Cant find a support number to call either :(
@@michelehobson4356 nylon gears probably. may not be in alignment.
@@thedwightguy ok... ty so much for responding.. how do I Frey to fix it? I’d love to upload a video for you to hear it but not sure how in comments:(
Does incubator need the water ?
how much water do you have in it in the beginning? then how much for the last 3 days?
Hi, I didn't put any water at the beginning. The natural conditions here are humid enough to do 'dry incubation'. Its just a case of keeping an eye on it.
For the last 3 days, I poured a little cup into the bottom, and just kept an eye on what the levels were.
When did you add water ?
I accidentally changed HU and HD (because I guess they mean humility and hatch day respectively), but then found i should not change them, but cannot remember original numbers and set them back ...appreciate if you can let me know how...
Oops! ok, no worries, I looked in the manual….
HU is Heating Power parameter
HD is Heat preservation power parameter
LS is Lower limit set
HS is Upper limit set
CA is temperature calibration
AH and AL are 'factory set, not adjustable.
'Parameter HU and HD is set by factory, the user unless professional is not allowed to adjust it'.
If that hasn't confused you, don't worry, I'm confused on your behalf!
Anyway, on mine HU is 30 and HD is 25. Not sure if that's 'right' or not, as I really still struggle to understand this incubator, and use an internal thermometer, and adjust the target temperature to that.
Annoy Dad thanks! If you have not changed them, these numbers should be the default settings. The instruction of the incubator is amazingly hard to understand, making me quite nervous. So, thanks to your video...
what's the best humidity from day 1 to 18 for chicken eggs in your opinion?!
Anything above 35% and below 50
I have 3 thermometers reading different temps 😩 what is calibration mean please?? How do I do it? So I set it to 0 so it matches the required temp on the display??
Don't rely on the display temp as it may have been calibrated wrong. (Depending on the type of the thermometers) calibrate thermometers by getting a glass full of ice then fill it with cold water wait 10 minutes, dip the thermometers in the water it should read 32 degrees Fahrenheit l, you would then go off of whichever reads that or change/take the temp difference in account. So if one read 35 degrees instead of 32. When in the incubator it should read 102.5 instead of 99.5. I use to use a Mercury thermometer and did this method. I would also use a digital and hydrometer for easier readings but if I was ever unsure I would double check with the Mercury thermometer before attempting to "correct" the temps
What is the setting to put it back to the normal setting to show 37.5 i fixed the callibration how do i get back
38 is the correct temperature
Sharee how do you get 38?
How much water to put in at first and do you need to keep on putting the water?
That all depends on where you are, and what the relative humidity is in your area.
For me, in the south UK, normal air humidity is 40 - 50% so I only add water in last 3 days, to bring it up to 60-70% humidity.
what brand was the extra thermometer you put in there?
It was just a cheap generic one, that can be found on eBay or any other online sales site.
going to try this with my button quail
Thank you for this I may get one is there another you may recommend ? Or is this ok
Same question here. I never had an incubator, I don’t have any knowledge or experience. Due to the multi failures of my hens while broody and mess up the term of the 21 days because many quit before the term. I has been with the idea to have an incubator. Please help us and gives us an answer about this incubator. Do you recommend this one to someone like me regarding about my comment?
@@queilyyenner6399 I may be getting one soon , I will reply when I get and results , hopefully I can get one at the moment with lockdown it's hard , expensive and troubling how long we may have to put up with this, every chicken seller is classed as non essential and told to close shop so I can only hatch some but the incubators are mostly sold out .
I would recommend one of the Brinsea or R-com ones. These are a bit hit and miss.
Planning on playing a singular fischer bird egg. Before that I wanna do research and purchase everything I need. So, can you guys tell me what tools I'll need to hatch a baby bird?
I can tell you about poultry, but I don't know anything about other species of birds. It may be the same, but I'm not 100% sure.
@@AnnoyDad So, I found out that most site require you to pay for a minium of 3 -10 eggs but I don't want that many birds. Do you know any good sites I can buy a single egg from? I was planning on asking one of my breeders.
You may get someone to give you just the one egg, but we've found 6 to be the safest way, especially if they are coming through the post.
Just one egg won't give you any redundancy should it be infertile. I would always go for more, and then sell on the excess chicks.
@@AnnoyDad Thing is.. I wouldn't know where to sell the other chicks and I don't even know if this cage is big enough for 4 Prevue Pet Products Wrought Iron Flight Cage with Stand F040 Black Bird Cage, 31-Inch by 20-1/2-Inch by 53-Inch www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_i-EfDbJE8TM5T Also, I'm grateful for the advice! :D
Great
so it turns automatically without you having to mess with some buttons?
Yes
my motor to turn the egg tray holder went out..found one but until I get it just moving it by hand every so often
Other option is to place a book or small stone under one end, and swap ends a couple of times a day. Saves opening the incubator 👍
Hello!! Awesome video !!!Mine is a week old and making a loud grinding noise? What do I do? I can find support number anywhere to call..
@@AnnoyDad mine is a week old and making a loud grinding noise... coming from fan I THINK, I don’t know what to do! Cant find support number anywhere.. any advice is soooo welcomed!!! Ty so much in advance ❤️
How much water u put?
I have put 100ml of water In and I can’t get the humidity to stay at 50 to 60 % and it is at 80 % and advise
sorry for very late reply but for less humidity add less water
So did it work? And also what were the temp and humidity levels?
Android Trash um it should come in the box on the instructions
@@melissabalas2174 Do you have this model/brand? You would see that the "instructions" are written poorly. Cheap Chinese goods where they couldn't be bothered getting the English translation right. That's why we are watching this on UA-cam.
I’m using this for Indian Runner ducks... the eggs have just started rocking today... I’m imagining that I’ll have to remove the roller tomorrow? Do I put them on lockdown when they’ve hatched? We had 6 eggs, one died in the first 10 days... so far, the others are ok. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
We remove the cradle based on how many days they have been in the incubator for. So for ducks, we remove the cradle at 25 days, and expect them to hatch at 28 days.
Hope that helps :)
Annoy Dad Thank you. Yesterday was 25 days... I removed the cradle early hours this morning after watching your video... fingers crossed now... 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Brilliant :) Good luck with it all, and let us know how you get on.
Mine was set at 37.5 but my thermometer/hygrometer reads 33.7.
What on earth am I to do
Go with the Thermometer near the eggs.
How much mililitros of water did you put each 2 days
Personally, I don't. I'm in the UK and background humidity is enough for days 0-18. On day 18, I add a small container of water, to bring up the humidity for hatching.
I’m on day 7 with my chickens eggs some are really dark eggs. I have a candler coming tomorrow I think I can check my light pink eggs that are I there. I really hope I did things right. This is my first time
Hi Julie, Good luck with the eggs. You should be able to candle most eggs, other than the really thick shelled bird species. A good, bright candler will get through most shells, even quail. If your torch isn't bright enough, the light on mobile phones is normally good enough.
What are your settings for the Ls hs and ca
Was unable to candle my eggs couldn’t see anything think shells too dark or something but I guess I’ll find out here in a day or so
Why would you lose the inserts if you put it back in the incubator where it belongs...
Where i can buy this encubetor.
Since this pandemic, we were forced to think on ways to grow our own food , first time garden was a sucess got all type of veggies , cukes , tomatoes , tons of spicy peppers . Also we rushed to buy 17 hens , not good , most were too old , only 2 laid some egss, and eventually got killed by predators . So we decidedat the end of summer to buy chicks from a local store , we bought 12 , 6 died from desease , 6 are doing great , we added 12 ducklins where 7 survived . Since we lived in the country , we tried many different ways to keep them safe from predators , but none works , and we didn't want to keep them confined in a some sort of cage , until I tried my Alexa gadget , I play all kinds of music from Elvis , country , rap , latin music , even Polka and It has worked no predators have come around , all my birds are free range . I just aquired this incubator from my. 12 year old grandson , he is into science like a mad doctor , trying to find ways to create life , I will give it a try with my fertile eggs .
What a story! Good luck for the future.
I'll have to try blasting out a bit of Elvis when the fox starts coming round again. 😎👍
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Would an emu egg fit in here without the tray?
I don't think so, but I've never held a Emu egg, only seen pictures. This incubator will just manage a small goose egg.
the issue is not whether an emu egg would fit. I am assuming the bigger issue is even if it did fit there would be very little room for an emu once it hatched since the incubator barely fits a normal size chicken as far as headroom. I also have this incubator, btw
I think that making the sliding tray the same oval shape as the incubator itself would've been a given.
You would've thought so. Room for a few more eggs that way.
It’s good for quail eggs
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my janeol 12 incubator is not working any ideas anyone?
I bought a second hand incubator and it smells funny when turned on. Does yours?
Hi, no, ours doesn't. As you purchased it second hand, is there a lot of dust in the top bit? It may be where dust has got onto the heater cables, and this is what you can smell. Like when you turn on an electric heater in the winter for the first couple of times. Might be worth getting the hoover onto the grid, and seeing is that makes a difference.
But always be careful with electrical items, as It may be something totally different.
@@AnnoyDad thanks for that. It's a unique smells so was wondering. I'll have a look tho. Thanls
In the instuction manual they say that if it’s smells « funny » you have to resend it to have a new one. But me, the first 5 minutes that in turned it on it smelled « funny » but now that makes 12 days that îm incubating my eggs and it doesn’t smelle strange anymore. I’m not sure that it will help you because it makes a long time that you posted your comment but i like to help people!😁😁
i used mine for quail and I had a 90 to 100% hatch rate. Not so great with chicken eggs but great for quail!
How many quail eggs did you fit in the incubator
I can't remember exactly but you don't have to use the turner. Just one or two times a day pick up one side and let them roll over. Quail eggs are very forgiving. I now have two of these incubators.
@@alyshagreen4284 thankyou so much
Surprising that it sounds like you have birds already yet use this.
Course it’s my first time starting from eggs....but when I get a few mature brooders I will pick them unless trying a different type of bird besides ducks...until I get my chickens going I will do the same usually.
If I go to massive raising birds this is way to small....is part of my reasoning.
I only use this for very small hatches, is I'm desperate. Otherwise, we use the Curfew or Brinsea
Have you never had to put wather in there?
I put water in for the last 3 days of incubation.
Would you happen to still have this incubator?
I do, yes.
Is there any way you could send a picture of the inside wiring to me? I took mine apart cause I thought it was broken but it was just a fuse and I dont know how to put it back together.
What day do you take out the Turner and how long can the chicks stay in after they hatch?
I take it out at day 18, and never leave the chicks more than 3 days after the first one has hatched.
@@AnnoyDad thank you! Bought this so first time used...had 9 eggs and 7 hatched .🙂
@@sheilabourque9744 That's so exciting! I have 8 call duck eggs that just went into lockdown today! It's nice to see a positive result!
@@sheilabourque9744 could you please tell me what settings you used for your chicken eggs ..I'm finding the manual confusing ..
I have the quail settings written down from a freind however she has never hatched chicken eggs and I'm not sure all the settings would be the same ..
Congratulations also on hatching your eggs successfully
its price
You should have your humidity between 45-55% the first 18 days. Then between 65-75% the last 3 days. 84% is wayyy to high. The chicks could drown in their egg and die. And wait until day 24 to turn the incubator off. The other egg could just be a late Hatcher.
maybe you could cut down the little legs on the bottom tray just a bit. Just enough so the tray is still out of the water. they will have more head room.
I did consider that, but its not enough extra height to make it worthwhile.
I think I'll just use it for quail, unless I need somewhere for some chicken eggs :)
@@AnnoyDad What if you made a spacer out of plastic a few inches wide to go between the top and the bottom piece? that's the first thing I thought of when you mentioned that problem in the video. Another thing I thought of was what if you used one or two of those peel and stick fish tank thermometers on the inside of the incubator? Not sure if they've got something like that for the humidity too.
Hi, Thanks for watching :)
I did consider that, but then you have to factor in the extra heat that would be lost through the extra surface area that would create. If you see the vid I recently uploaded on the Janoel 10, that has a clear ring around it, that leaks heat like mad.
We have £3 temp / humidity thingys from eBay that we now put in the incubators :)
I’m sorry but that’s wrong you supposed to add water before plug it in
I don't think it really matters. But like when do you add milk to a cup of tea.
Annoy Dad Did you ever end up replacing that fan?
Not yet..... will do as soon as incubator not in use, and will make a vid showing it. Currently have some bantams in there :)
@@AnnoyDad I've got one coming in the mail tomorrow but it's got a different name. It's called Hatch Mate.
7:22 you um……… put the egg tray facing the wrong side. Rotator will not work 😉
£92 now on Amazon. Great video.
Hey do you have Instagram or Facebook? I need your help man
Hi, yes we have a facebook page facebook.com/AnnoyDad/
I may be wrong, but, I did not see anything about your putting water into anything for humidity.
I dry hatch. So with chicken eggs, first 18 days I don't add anything, as relative humidity is enough. When the eggs enter 'lockdown' from day 18, I add a small container with water in to raise humidity for hatching.
Dang that’s a noisy incubator or my fan isn’t working...I hear a much quieter hum.
Noisy fan in mine. Keep meaning to change it.
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I believe your wrong about the temperature indicator... your add on themometre is only a ½ degree difference... if you remember when you turned it on it indicated the actual room temperature 21.8... and you increased it using the plus to increase it. Maybe yours is broken but mine shows the temp at the thermistor if you set it higher you'll see the temp setpoint increase and then it goes back to the lower temp and slowly increases so you don't need the additional digital themomtre ... so it doesnt show the target temp it shows the temp at the the thermister... for humidity yes a good idea. If humidity goes to high simply wedge the lid open a little so there's more ventilation. Watch this video... he explains how to calibrate the temp control... ua-cam.com/video/POU1Plebxp4/v-deo.html
Made in china?
Probably
Video too long. Too much un useful information.