Guys, this was an absolute pleasure to shoot, but we have to thank our viewer Sean for loaning us this amazing specimen, and also thank Rob [Vintage Rifle Shooter's Club / AKOU] for talking to us about the M24 from a U.S. Sniper's perspective. We encourage you to look up his new channel [VRSC] where he shoots a lot of interesting military rifles at distance. Remember, the speedway episode is also imminent, and Rob is coming back to chat with us there too! EDIT: Thanks for everyone who caught and commented on the meter typo in the intro, we'll fix in future vids! EDIT: Quite a few people have asked about the Swedish M90 camo, this is the top that Mike from Mike's Militaria AKA Mike B @MikeB sent over as a gift b/c Karl's uniform wasn't on hand during the filming yet. Check his store out, we're friends with him, but personally we like to buy from his surplus pile to support small businesses :)
OUTSTANDING SHOOTING SIR!!! I love watching you shoot man you def have the skills to reach out there…… If you could just share a little of that knowledge and pour it into my skull that would be great! Haha Anyways thanks for sharing Im a huge fan.
I know right! With how fast the bullets are I almost thought it was impossible yo see them on camera. I even saw the bullet fly at the 300m and 400m targets. That was gnarly.
I wasn't a fan of them but they were at the end of their service life when I got my paws on them which could have been why they had some issues. Great info though.
That would be a big factor in a lot of US Weapons I find. We tend to run the guns to death, especially in training, and the armorers are only Human. It is not so problematic for the M4s to double their factory MOA due to slop, since that still puts them on a man-sized target to about 300 yards. Can't quite get away with that with the sniper rifles where adding even a half-MOA adds up to problems.
@@9HoleReviews It’s what the biggest guntubers are doing and you’d both benefit from it. Y’all aren’t getting as much traffic as other but in many ways your content is much more useful/interesting. We’d all love to see y’all blow up more because the channels absolutely deliver.
Excellent example of why the spotter is so important. A spotting scope focused to see mirage will give infinitely better wind reads than trying to call wind through the rifle scope. Great shooting!
@@Everythingallthetime666 Absolutely. I don’t have the experience you have (I’m just a target competition guy), but in my experience, working as the spotter has also made me a much better shooter as well. Like you said, as the spotter you have much better and more detailed information of the changing environment, but also having that “5,000 ft view” really helped me learn to think 3-dimensionally versus being in the rifle scope and only thinking about the mechanics of the position and fussing the shot itself.
@@pamn9051 Mirage is when the barrel gets hot and the vision through the scope gets fucked up/distorted. Also counts when the enviorment is hot, at long range the hotness of the air will distort the image, thus making shooting harder, since what you are seeing isnt clean. Mirage is also the wind moving left to right affecting your points of impact on longer ranges more because the bullets loose power. What seems like weak wind on longer range it still affects the trajectory of the bullet.
You guys should take a 30-30 or 45-70 lever action out. I always hear buckhorn sights suck, and the bullets drop too far past 125y to holdover. I’d love to watch you guys shatter these misconceptions.
How about a sharps 45-110 black powder cartridge 540gr. Paper patched bullet. I have a 45-120 shooting a 610gr round nose lubed with spg. Fun shooting offhand or sticks, not so much from a bench. 🥺🤕🤯
Someone with Henry's skills can handle the holdover, but buckhorn sights with rounded front sight would be awful to overcome. They are designed for short range, quick acquisition- and they aren't very good for even that. Love my leverguns, but they were rejected for military service for many reasons.
@@NotYourFriendPal it's basically just an upgraded Remington 700. Get a Bergara B14 (basically a higher quality R700 clone) and add an optic and you're done. If you want something clone correct you need a barreled action and a H-S or McMillan stock
You can get R700 actions and stick them into your preferred stock easily. Building a clone rifle would be expensive but it's really just for collecting.
My precision gun is 308, about the same barrel length and similar profile. 308 is a GREAT round out to 600-700 but the further you go past that, tje better you must be at reading wind. It's not a smoking fast round, its not a super high BC projectile. Its just an "average" rifle caetridge. That being said, if you are using the right ammo (175smk or better) and can read wind it van be VERY proficient, especially at average engagement differences. I also think it's the best to learn on 308. You'll get better at wind and ranging.
yeah i also think that logistics is something overlooked by civilian shooters. The prospect that you can de-link MG ammo to use in a pinch and still maintain the 800m radius is a very appealing one when you're a sniper stuck on a FOB with spotty supply (which yes, typically US forces have great supply).
I agree with everything except for starting out with 308. I would recommend starting with 22LR to get the basics in, for money reasons. Match 308 was expensive pre-covid; it's ludicrous now.
@@MrHeavy466 I agree there.. I meant more towards "once you get into rifles" While it is high, its still in the same range as competitiors. I reload and am still in it for *head math* more than 1.00 usd/round.
Totally agree. I love .308 and yes, out to around 700 they are awesome but it can definitely get sporty after that especially with a M1A. I started shooting PRS last year and all I had was a M1A. As if PRS isn't challenging enough (and our match director is a former sniper so it can get extremely difficult at times) throw in new shooter and .308 out of a M1A. lol I learned a lot though. End of the season I finally got my 6mm ARC together and holy cow what a difference. Night and day.
@@ja0298 not really. Brandon has a large appreciation with history and interesting pieces he acquires. Edit: he often talks about design features. What was great and what wasn’t
I got an M24 pseudo-clone chambered in .308 on commission from a former U.S. Army sniper who did tours in Afghanistan. It was a custom build he had done when he left service. First time I took that thing out, it was printing 1/3 MOA groups. Even with slightly less optimal ammo it still readily does 1/2 - 3/4 MOA and that's as much on me being rusty now. The platform is ridiculously accurate and a pleasure to shoot. This run shows just how important wind-reading skills and a good team is to effective long-range shooting. I believe that most folks can learn to shoot well (think sub-MOA with a capable platform), but the differentiator is going to be in all of the other parts. Also, this episode highlights why hunters should not take long-range shots. You might be the best from a technical perspective, but a tiny misread in environmentals and you've pooched the shot and wounded the animal instead of killing it.
That reminds me of "Jimmy John" while taking a shot at a VERY long distance while filling his Arizona Governor's Elk Tag. Too bad that he more or less bought out another hunter with bribes so that he would most likely be the only person hunting that Bull Elk, it was not a 1st shot clean hit, without a follow-up because they were afraid that he may possibly damage the antlers. And to The 9 hole team keep up the awesome work men and my 5.56 and several of my friends all have some components from Black slate on their Rifles.
Henry, you're one of the truly "good guys" of the gun community. Your exceptional knowledge base combined with your incredibly charming and humble approach is just a pleasure to watch and a gold mine to learn from. Plus, you seem to have a knack for featuring all the gun tubers that I personally love and respect. You should have Paul Harrell on one day, he's awesome and I think your no bs approaches would mesh well. Keep up the great work, and thank you for the hours of educational entertainment!
I think Henry did a great job! When he was on at 900 and 1k that made me think that something else was going on at 800. Thanks to gentleman for letting you shoot it and Rob for the commentary.
This is to correct my previous comments. The barrels were developed with the assistance of renowned barrel maker Boots Obermeyer. The rifling was 1-11.25 5R. The R indicated radius’ed rifling. Both on the leading and trailing edges. It produces less copper fouling and lower pressures. Mike Rock produced the first 187 barrels and was involved with helping Remington get their cold hammer forging process up and running according to what I read. The Remington barrels were supposedly 20% more accurate than Rocks. The radius’ed rifling may have been adapted from the rifling in the AK-74. But the R designation assigned to the barrel did not stand for Russian. No disrespect intended towards Rob Ski.
Awesome content as usual, and great shooting Henry! Basically stacking those rounds at 1,000yds🤯 wow! I didn’t know Rob was a US sniper, he is an encyclopedia of shooting knowledge!👍
@@9HoleReviews I have noticed this. There used to be more hits caught in edit that are not around anymore. Props to both of you on the growth of skill you've achieved filming these videos.
Josh prob sees ot better than we do. Mrgunsandgear explained once that every time you show a vid then someone takes that copy to make another vid, deterioration in quality gets diminished. So by the time we see it, its already twice as bad as Josh. None the less, Josh did a great job!!! 😀👍
I'm so glad I was able to get one of the Remington M24 rebuilds for about $1,900 years ago, mine is a more base model with a 5 round magazine by Badger Ordnance, I love that rifle.
Excellent video there’s ways something’s that I didn’t know about the M24 System. The 7.62x51 with the 175 Gr BTHP has proven itself a very capable cartridge time and time again.
Brings back a memory...my plt sgt had been trying to find me a DM rifle or anything bigger than an m4. Best they could do was a SAW (gee, thanks) with the new squad day optic. We ended up getting an Army EOD team attached to us when we got in country, and he announced, "hey I got you a sniper rifle, the army guys have one they don't know how to use so they said you can have it". I got handed an M24, a can of ammo, and a couple write in the rain pages with notes from the last Marine it had been loaned to. I got to take 9 shots at 100 yards and off we went. I only got to fire one round after that, to my disappointment, before our army guys had to leave. They were replaced by an air force team who were not nearly as much fun, nor were they as open-handed with their gear, and my excitement about the possibility of getting to bean someone with a half-inch explosive round out of their m107 was quickly turned into bitter disappointment and months of "you know, I could shoot that guy if I had a big boy rifle" over the radio every time we spotted someone burying an IED 14-1500 meters ahead of us. I put a similar rifle together, but with a trijicon accupoint and heavier barrel...I think I'll take it out this week, you've inspired me.
Great video. I loved watching the very visible trace on many of the shots taken, atmospherics were just right for it. I have 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor rifles that are lasers and make long distance shooting an easier endeavor. That being said, I have a Remington 700, chambered in .308 Win., 20” heavy barrel, 1-12 twist that shoots 168gr. and 175gr. SMK sub MOA all day long. I love that .308 and will never sell it.
The reason for the mirage effect is the sun on a cold morning (it looks like) creates ablation, so you're effectively looking through a thin fog that's shimmering from sunlight at an angle through the humidity.
My mentor for learning high power was my spotter. My Dad taught me the fine practice of accuracy, the squeeze, the calm discipline of body mechanics. The skill displayed in this video is deserved for this rifle.
Perfect timing! I just finished my M24 clone build. But chambered in 6.5x55 AI to take advantage of the long action and use as a long range target rifle. I forgot about the MARS/MIRS rail until I seen your video 😅
The M24 is a pretty good system with major problems. The safety required a hair tie and sometimes rounds could dive while feeding due to the long action as Ski said. Knew I was in love when I went 10/10 on a 10 inch plate at 510m on Burroughs Range. One little cluster of impacts.
Thank you for breaking down the wind issues and spotting techniques. I’ve been learning long range shooting and spotting and this was very helpful for me.
@@9HoleReviews As long as he's safe! Hope we can see him soon. BTW, have you consider releasing some sort of poster/wallpaper material? Your pics are awesome!!!
one of my dream rifles for a long time now, Remington 700 in .308 with a good stock and some good glass...... a beautiful piece of machinery, and a bolt rifle that's still popular in other calibers as well!!!! just awesome 👌
If you got perfect wind calls with all of the evaluations then they all would be better and not the fault of the rifle. Wind is part of ballistics and the only way around it is a combo of a higher BC and higher velocity.
I remember the designer of the original Remington 700 trigger said it would have been a $0.05 fix per rifle back when the trigger issue was first discovered and the brillant executives said no.
It's interesting the development the army took with their semi autos, whereas the USMC went with the short action M40 and stayed with it only for the Army to go back to something similar later on.
@@bobbertbobberson6725 Yup, it's interesting to see the evolution of it all for the different services. I know when I was in the USMC it was a lot of 'make do' with what you had, but wars after that added money and mission priorities.
I think that a lot of people (myself included) who don't have any sort of formal sniper/long rang shooting training tend to underestimate the importance of a good spotter. As you point out, not just to spot hits and misses but also to carefully observe conditions before the shot. Great video.
Probably my favorite video of yours!! Lots of skill involved in those shots, hats off to you 👍 But the effectiveness of that old school bolt rife is undeniable.. I understand why the USMC has kept the same pattern for so long now.
I would really love to see Simo's technique of stuffing his mouth with snow to hide vapor coming from his mouth tested while shooting on a cold day. Nice run Henry!
I beg to differ on the Walker trigger. There is nothing flawed about it. It was never meant to be an adjustable trigger and it did require maintenance. If the trigger was maintained properly and not screwed with. It was and still is a safe and reliable trigger and a hell of a design considering it's age. I still have a rem 700 with a Walker trigger and it will not be getting replaced.
The M24 is definitely a more than adequate rifle for anything inside 800 yards tbh. I know civilians who think they need $5000 target rifles for hunting and I think it's just asinine.
Hmm. Does that optic have the bdc turret? If so I wonder how ammunition from the Era of the m24 differs from current 118lr. The 800 meter target was a bit weird. Plus mornings are very strange for wind. Looks as if the ground is still icy. Wonder if it made it difficult for the wind calls since a slight breeze pushes that round off target by a football field haha!. Great shooting and great looking gun.
@@china_man_actual I would think having the same measurement between the reticle and turret would be the standard, but stranger things have happened with government.
Thanks for a great episode! Love the M24 (so jealous!) and was also fun to see Rob being featured. Personally I wasn’t surprised by mirage after x shots in colder temperatures but maybe I missed the point.
My main hunting rifle is a 308 Winchester. I had never shot it beyond 100 yards, most of the game around here is taken at shorter distances than that. I used to punch the 1 inch groups at 100 yards at the local indoor range and thought I was Daniel Boone. One day, I joined a 1,000 yard range. Imagine my frustration when I discovered that, although the rifle was dead-nuts up to about 700 yards, it seemed to be the mercy of the wind after that. Even if I could hit the 1,000 yards in a particular wind, I had trouble holding it. Suffice it to say, I have a genuine admiration for people who can read the wind well enough to keep a 308 on target at that range.
Can I say you two guys bring pleasure to an old Englishman, I so wish I could shoot the rifles you shoot in 9 hole reviews, it’s one of the cons of living in the UK, keep shooting and vlogging and I’ll keep watching 👍👍👍👌👌👌🏴
Going back remembering the view of vapor trails during follow through looking along the sight alignment. Very neat to see the vapor trails captured in the down range camera 👍 Awesome Koo!
You were more consistent with your 700 5r barrel clone with 10 power scope, witch many would consider a "home built" M 24. That 700 you have is my favorite chapter.
You're kidding about Robbie, right? I had no idea that he was ex-military, and a trained marksman. That's phenomenal!! Thanks for the video and the fantastic interview!
In South Africa in the seventies when Sniping was being explored they used a single shot target rifle called a Musgrave RSA which was locally designed and produced for Bisley shooting and gained quite a reputation. It was heavy barreled half minute of angle capability. They lightened the stock, fitted a Scope and Voila. Of course the bush war soon necessitated a change to captured Russian Dragunovs not because of better accuracy but rather its multi shot capability ,and the fact that it used the enemy's ammunition so no tell tale 308 cases were laying around. I have one of those early model rifles and it is undoubtedly one of the most accurate 308's around ,even today. Highly sought after here because of its unbreakable action...
@@reefread1234 Yea all the ranges in my area that are outside, have the sun above the shooter until it falls down under mountains sadly. We can shoot 855s and SS109s there though on their steel without risk of fire, which is pretty cool, and they're open until 9pm. It's either that or indoor ranges which i'm meh on
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Guys, this was an absolute pleasure to shoot, but we have to thank our viewer Sean for loaning us this amazing specimen, and also thank Rob [Vintage Rifle Shooter's Club / AKOU] for talking to us about the M24 from a U.S. Sniper's perspective. We encourage you to look up his new channel [VRSC] where he shoots a lot of interesting military rifles at distance.
Remember, the speedway episode is also imminent, and Rob is coming back to chat with us there too!
EDIT: Thanks for everyone who caught and commented on the meter typo in the intro, we'll fix in future vids!
EDIT: Quite a few people have asked about the Swedish M90 camo, this is the top that Mike from Mike's Militaria AKA Mike B @MikeB sent over as a gift b/c Karl's uniform wasn't on hand during the filming yet. Check his store out, we're friends with him, but personally we like to buy from his surplus pile to support small businesses :)
If someone loans you a rifle to use in caliber you don’t load for, do you get the dies and load or just shoot commercial if it’s available?
Get yourselves a Nikon Coolpix P1000
can we see the m2010 next? seems appropriate!
OUTSTANDING SHOOTING SIR!!! I love watching you shoot man you def have the skills to reach out there…… If you could just share a little of that knowledge and pour it into my skull that would be great! Haha Anyways thanks for sharing Im a huge fan.
Maybe pin this comment?
always fun to see the bullets arc like that
I know right! With how fast the bullets are I almost thought it was impossible yo see them on camera. I even saw the bullet fly at the 300m and 400m targets. That was gnarly.
Vapor trails can even be seen at short distances with small calibers. My .22WMR is very fun to shoot for that reason, I can start to see them at 200m
Indeed. One just "assumes" bullets travel in laser like patterns. Nope, they don´t.
Crazy
sexiest part of long distance shooting
I wasn't a fan of them but they were at the end of their service life when I got my paws on them which could have been why they had some issues. Great info though.
That would be a big factor in a lot of US Weapons I find. We tend to run the guns to death, especially in training, and the armorers are only Human. It is not so problematic for the M4s to double their factory MOA due to slop, since that still puts them on a man-sized target to about 300 yards. Can't quite get away with that with the sniper rifles where adding even a half-MOA adds up to problems.
@Mrgunsngear channel whats up!!! Great to see you on!
Heyyy MrShillsForGear!
@@nfaisnfgay We should be able to downvote stupid/douchy comments like yours. Fucking UA-cam.
@@blakerogers6806 i stil do downvote those comments in the hope something happens
Nice to see people show some humility, and not cut out those mistakes at 800. Love the transparency
My thought exactly!! And we all learned valuable lessons as a result of their transparency and keeping it real.
This world would be unrecognizable if people were just honest with themselves like this guy
Average person doesn’t understand how far 100 yards is when you’re shooting at it, let alone 500+
sloppy shooting, my 5R is far more accurate, but that has a lot to do with the man behind the trigger
@@investigativeoutcomes9343 shut up dude nobody wants to hear your bullshit, can almost guarantee Henry is a way better shot than you
What an awesome course!
brandon we need to link up some time!
@@9HoleReviews It’s what the biggest guntubers are doing and you’d both benefit from it. Y’all aren’t getting as much traffic as other but in many ways your content is much more useful/interesting. We’d all love to see y’all blow up more because the channels absolutely deliver.
@@9HoleReviews Y'all should! Would make for some unique content.
You Eric Cortina and 9-Holes are all just down the road from each other, dooooo ittttttt
Excellent example of why the spotter is so important. A spotting scope focused to see mirage will give infinitely better wind reads than trying to call wind through the rifle scope. Great shooting!
@@Everythingallthetime666 Absolutely. I don’t have the experience you have (I’m just a target competition guy), but in my experience, working as the spotter has also made me a much better shooter as well. Like you said, as the spotter you have much better and more detailed information of the changing environment, but also having that “5,000 ft view” really helped me learn to think 3-dimensionally versus being in the rifle scope and only thinking about the mechanics of the position and fussing the shot itself.
What is mirage?
@@pamn9051 Mirage is when the barrel gets hot and the vision through the scope gets fucked up/distorted. Also counts when the enviorment is hot, at long range the hotness of the air will distort the image, thus making shooting harder, since what you are seeing isnt clean. Mirage is also the wind moving left to right affecting your points of impact on longer ranges more because the bullets loose power. What seems like weak wind on longer range it still affects the trajectory of the bullet.
Just FYI, there's an error on the distance to target chart at 1:00 - Target 10 (1000y / 730m) should read Target 10 (1000y / 914m)
yeah that was a typo we'll have to fix in future runs
Spotted that as well. Now to watch the rest of the video
You guys should take a 30-30 or 45-70 lever action out. I always hear buckhorn sights suck, and the bullets drop too far past 125y to holdover. I’d love to watch you guys shatter these misconceptions.
maybe a blackpowder 1873 Springfield on the service rifle course?
Lol, Henry has voiced his issues about Buckhorn sights from his Kar 98k video too.
@ed Where is John Wayne when you need him?
How about a sharps 45-110 black powder cartridge 540gr. Paper patched bullet.
I have a 45-120 shooting a 610gr round nose lubed with spg.
Fun shooting offhand or sticks, not so much from a bench. 🥺🤕🤯
Someone with Henry's skills can handle the holdover, but buckhorn sights with rounded front sight would be awful to overcome. They are designed for short range, quick acquisition- and they aren't very good for even that. Love my leverguns, but they were rejected for military service for many reasons.
Rob is one of my favorite UA-cam creators. Herrera claims he's the "AK Guy" but we all know that Rob Ski is the real AK Guy
100%
Couldn't agree more. Brandon Herrera just likes them a lot. Rob Ski is THE AK guy
The red tie under the camo and a OG M24 truly CLASSIC.
Very nice video and great shooting! 🔥👏
I wish M24 clones weren’t $5k. The barrel profile is awesome and overall it looks sick!
Build your own
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 i’ve never had a bolt gun built. I’ll have to look into it. Do you recommend any specific gunsmith for that?
@@NotYourFriendPal it's basically just an upgraded Remington 700. Get a Bergara B14 (basically a higher quality R700 clone) and add an optic and you're done. If you want something clone correct you need a barreled action and a H-S or McMillan stock
You can get R700 actions and stick them into your preferred stock easily. Building a clone rifle would be expensive but it's really just for collecting.
Get a rem 700....put a bartlien barrel with 5R rifling, a M24 barrel contour and get the action trued. You'll basically have a M24
Rob, Henry and Josh all at the same time - with a classic system. Doesn't get much better!
My precision gun is 308, about the same barrel length and similar profile. 308 is a GREAT round out to 600-700 but the further you go past that, tje better you must be at reading wind. It's not a smoking fast round, its not a super high BC projectile. Its just an "average" rifle caetridge.
That being said, if you are using the right ammo (175smk or better) and can read wind it van be VERY proficient, especially at average engagement differences. I also think it's the best to learn on 308. You'll get better at wind and ranging.
yeah i also think that logistics is something overlooked by civilian shooters. The prospect that you can de-link MG ammo to use in a pinch and still maintain the 800m radius is a very appealing one when you're a sniper stuck on a FOB with spotty supply (which yes, typically US forces have great supply).
I agree with everything except for starting out with 308. I would recommend starting with 22LR to get the basics in, for money reasons. Match 308 was expensive pre-covid; it's ludicrous now.
@@MrHeavy466 I agree there.. I meant more towards "once you get into rifles"
While it is high, its still in the same range as competitiors. I reload and am still in it for *head math* more than 1.00 usd/round.
@@mattfleming86 Looking online and in retail, I still can't find match 308 for less than $3/round. Time to start reloading.
Totally agree. I love .308 and yes, out to around 700 they are awesome but it can definitely get sporty after that especially with a M1A. I started shooting PRS last year and all I had was a M1A. As if PRS isn't challenging enough (and our match director is a former sniper so it can get extremely difficult at times) throw in new shooter and .308 out of a M1A. lol I learned a lot though. End of the season I finally got my 6mm ARC together and holy cow what a difference. Night and day.
This is an incredible contribution to the firearms community, thank you all for producing such content.
Now that Brandon Herrera has his hands on a VSS I would love to see that on the course.
Pretty ambitious to think he’d just loan it out like that.
Luckily they're both in Texas. Can't imagine him being willing to go through the hassle of moving an NFA item cross country otherwise.
I've been thinking the same thing.
@@andreivaldez2929 I doubt he will. His crowd is more demo ranch sadly.
@@ja0298 not really. Brandon has a large appreciation with history and interesting pieces he acquires.
Edit: he often talks about design features. What was great and what wasn’t
I got an M24 pseudo-clone chambered in .308 on commission from a former U.S. Army sniper who did tours in Afghanistan. It was a custom build he had done when he left service. First time I took that thing out, it was printing 1/3 MOA groups. Even with slightly less optimal ammo it still readily does 1/2 - 3/4 MOA and that's as much on me being rusty now. The platform is ridiculously accurate and a pleasure to shoot.
This run shows just how important wind-reading skills and a good team is to effective long-range shooting. I believe that most folks can learn to shoot well (think sub-MOA with a capable platform), but the differentiator is going to be in all of the other parts. Also, this episode highlights why hunters should not take long-range shots. You might be the best from a technical perspective, but a tiny misread in environmentals and you've pooched the shot and wounded the animal instead of killing it.
That reminds me of "Jimmy John" while taking a shot at a VERY long distance while filling his Arizona Governor's Elk Tag. Too bad that he more or less bought out another hunter with bribes so that he would most likely be the only person hunting that Bull Elk, it was not a 1st shot clean hit, without a follow-up because they were afraid that he may possibly damage the antlers.
And to The 9 hole team keep up the awesome work men and my 5.56 and several of my friends all have some components from Black slate on their Rifles.
Henry, you're one of the truly "good guys" of the gun community. Your exceptional knowledge base combined with your incredibly charming and humble approach is just a pleasure to watch and a gold mine to learn from. Plus, you seem to have a knack for featuring all the gun tubers that I personally love and respect. You should have Paul Harrell on one day, he's awesome and I think your no bs approaches would mesh well. Keep up the great work, and thank you for the hours of educational entertainment!
Henry brings that same humble, no bs approach to his business as well. Slate black is awesome because of his way of interacting with his customers.
I think Henry did a great job! When he was on at 900 and 1k that made me think that something else was going on at 800. Thanks to gentleman for letting you shoot it and Rob for the commentary.
Great explanation of a ‘teachable moment’ about wind and the 7.62 NATO cartridge.
This is to correct my previous comments. The barrels were developed with the assistance of renowned barrel maker Boots Obermeyer. The rifling was 1-11.25 5R. The R indicated radius’ed rifling. Both on the leading and trailing edges. It produces less copper fouling and lower pressures.
Mike Rock produced the first 187 barrels and was involved with helping Remington get their cold hammer forging process up and running according to what I read. The Remington barrels were supposedly 20% more accurate than Rocks.
The radius’ed rifling may have been adapted from the rifling in the AK-74. But the R designation assigned to the barrel did not stand for Russian. No disrespect intended towards Rob Ski.
Awesome content as usual, and great shooting Henry! Basically stacking those rounds at 1,000yds🤯 wow! I didn’t know Rob was a US sniper, he is an encyclopedia of shooting knowledge!👍
Me n rob went to different schools together
How on hell is Josh able to spot the hits xD if he's seeing exactly what we're seeing here there's some real skills going into it
I hope more people see this side of the coin too, it's not easy and josh has gotten really proficient at spotting these days.
@@9HoleReviews I have noticed this. There used to be more hits caught in edit that are not around anymore. Props to both of you on the growth of skill you've achieved filming these videos.
UA-cam also degrades quality of video upon upload so we aren’t exactly seeing what he’s seeing.
Visual & audio reaction
Josh prob sees ot better than we do. Mrgunsandgear explained once that every time you show a vid then someone takes that copy to make another vid, deterioration in quality gets diminished. So by the time we see it, its already twice as bad as Josh. None the less, Josh did a great job!!! 😀👍
I carried this rifle and scope for about 3 years. At the school, my instructor described rifle as the Cadillac of rifles
Seeing the bullet arc and being able to track it is so damn cool, this is the first time I’ve ever seen that
I'm so glad I was able to get one of the Remington M24 rebuilds for about $1,900 years ago, mine is a more base model with a 5 round magazine by Badger Ordnance, I love that rifle.
That’s a steal for todays prices!
That speedway outro was such a tease!!! Looking forward to it, gentlemen.
Great shooting, Henry!
Excellent video there’s ways something’s that I didn’t know about the M24 System. The 7.62x51 with the 175 Gr BTHP has proven itself a very capable cartridge time and time again.
Camera work is always great with you guys, but today's episode is above even your normal standards! So cool to see the bullet trajectory.
It would be interesting to see a Steyr Scout run this course.
Brings back a memory...my plt sgt had been trying to find me a DM rifle or anything bigger than an m4. Best they could do was a SAW (gee, thanks) with the new squad day optic. We ended up getting an Army EOD team attached to us when we got in country, and he announced, "hey I got you a sniper rifle, the army guys have one they don't know how to use so they said you can have it". I got handed an M24, a can of ammo, and a couple write in the rain pages with notes from the last Marine it had been loaned to. I got to take 9 shots at 100 yards and off we went. I only got to fire one round after that, to my disappointment, before our army guys had to leave. They were replaced by an air force team who were not nearly as much fun, nor were they as open-handed with their gear, and my excitement about the possibility of getting to bean someone with a half-inch explosive round out of their m107 was quickly turned into bitter disappointment and months of "you know, I could shoot that guy if I had a big boy rifle" over the radio every time we spotted someone burying an IED 14-1500 meters ahead of us.
I put a similar rifle together, but with a trijicon accupoint and heavier barrel...I think I'll take it out this week, you've inspired me.
Nice to see Ian’s new FR-F2 in the background of the video
Man this is the life shooting at a range like this. I wish I had one close to me to take my long guns to.
Your guys intro/intro music is so good. Hope you never change it. Iconic even.
Great video. I loved watching the very visible trace on many of the shots taken, atmospherics were just right for it. I have 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor rifles that are lasers and make long distance shooting an easier endeavor. That being said, I have a Remington 700, chambered in .308 Win., 20” heavy barrel, 1-12 twist that shoots 168gr. and 175gr. SMK sub MOA all day long. I love that .308 and will never sell it.
Man this brings back some great memories for me. I was a sniper from 89-93’ in Berlin Germany. Trained with the M-21 & M-24.
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The reason for the mirage effect is the sun on a cold morning (it looks like) creates ablation, so you're effectively looking through a thin fog that's shimmering from sunlight at an angle through the humidity.
My mentor for learning high power was my spotter. My Dad taught me the fine practice of accuracy, the squeeze, the calm discipline of body mechanics. The skill displayed in this video is deserved for this rifle.
Outstanding AF gentleman!! Love the collaboration with Rob , hope you guys can do more of that in the future. 🇺🇸☠️🇺🇸
This brings back so many memories! This System has some Gucci paint and kit that looks really good.
Perfect timing! I just finished my M24 clone build. But chambered in 6.5x55 AI to take advantage of the long action and use as a long range target rifle. I forgot about the MARS/MIRS rail until I seen your video 😅
DUDE! Thanks for having Robski on! Hes been a long time favorite of mine!!
The M24 is a pretty good system with major problems. The safety required a hair tie and sometimes rounds could dive while feeding due to the long action as Ski said.
Knew I was in love when I went 10/10 on a 10 inch plate at 510m on Burroughs Range. One little cluster of impacts.
My second favorite video on this channel after the 5R
Yo, Henry, 2 shots back to back in the same spot at 1000yards with 308? You're getting really good at this dude.
Thank you for breaking down the wind issues and spotting techniques. I’ve been learning long range shooting and spotting and this was very helpful for me.
Man, you guys have very quickly become one of my favorite gun channels on YT. Super strong work as always.
Thanks:) hope to see you around!
One of the best episodes I've seen. Good job guys, to my amateur eyes it looked like Henry and that m24 smoked that course very efficiently.
It would be really interesting to see a Steyr SSG 69 run this course.
Man I love how you can see the rounds impact at 500 and beyond. You can actually see the arc of the bullet
I barely missed out on using the m24. I was one of the first B4 classes to use the M2010.
Edit: Benning class 06-13
HALF AN HOUR 9HOLEREVIEWS EPISODE!!!!!! Let's go!!!! Please send my regards to cousin Harry, I miss him.
He's busy doing sourcing these days .
@@9HoleReviews As long as he's safe! Hope we can see him soon. BTW, have you consider releasing some sort of poster/wallpaper material? Your pics are awesome!!!
All I could think when watching the firsts two targets was "BOOM HEADSHOT"
I CAN DANCE ALL DAY
@@reedsims5407 JUST TRY AND HIT ME
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one of my dream rifles for a long time now, Remington 700 in .308 with a good stock and some good glass...... a beautiful piece of machinery, and a bolt rifle that's still popular in other calibers as well!!!! just awesome 👌
If you got perfect wind calls with all of the evaluations then they all would be better and not the fault of the rifle. Wind is part of ballistics and the only way around it is a combo of a higher BC and higher velocity.
It's always fascinating being able to see the projectile trails on Josh's view.
I remember the designer of the original Remington 700 trigger said it would have been a $0.05 fix per rifle back when the trigger issue was first discovered and the brillant executives said no.
I love how Henry is wearing the swedish camo in almost every video now. I kinda want one.
It's interesting the development the army took with their semi autos, whereas the USMC went with the short action M40 and stayed with it only for the Army to go back to something similar later on.
And now with the M110A1 CSASS and M110E1 SDMR, we are flip flopping back. Although we are keeping a bolt action alongside the new CSASS though.
@@bobbertbobberson6725 should use both however bolt guns should be in like 300 norma, 6.5 prc ect.
@@smithnwesson990 that's how they're doing it I think. The CSASS is in 7.62 for 800m or so and in, and the Mk22 is in .300 Norma for further
@@bobbertbobberson6725 Yup, it's interesting to see the evolution of it all for the different services. I know when I was in the USMC it was a lot of 'make do' with what you had, but wars after that added money and mission priorities.
I think that a lot of people (myself included) who don't have any sort of formal sniper/long rang shooting training tend to underestimate the importance of a good spotter. As you point out, not just to spot hits and misses but also to carefully observe conditions before the shot.
Great video.
I was assigned an m24 in Iraq. The sniper I was attached to took the m14 and barret 50.
I can’t stress enough how much i needed this. I live this channel and I’m so happy I found it.
I'd love to see you shoot the m40 on this course and also get some detailed information on that gun. Maybe you can do that in the near future!
Some of the best visuals of bullet trace I've seen in a long time.
I'd love to see some long action cartridges (338, 300 Norma, or 408) or the new MRAD 🤞
A MRAD in 338 taken out to 1500 would be nice.
Take an ESSO out to 2500 ;)
Probably my favorite video of yours!!
Lots of skill involved in those shots, hats off to you 👍
But the effectiveness of that old school bolt rife is undeniable.. I understand why the USMC has kept the same pattern for so long now.
I would really love to see Simo's technique of stuffing his mouth with snow to hide vapor coming from his mouth tested while shooting on a cold day. Nice run Henry!
Did he stuff his nose too? 🤣
I only bring my m24 out on special occasions. I love it! Really awesome video!
Why are M24s so expensive ?
I beg to differ on the Walker trigger. There is nothing flawed about it. It was never meant to be an adjustable trigger and it did require maintenance. If the trigger was maintained properly and not screwed with. It was and still is a safe and reliable trigger and a hell of a design considering it's age. I still have a rem 700 with a Walker trigger and it will not be getting replaced.
Would be interesting to see you reshoot your R700 on this new course of fire
I would love to see the r5 on the speedway course
Huge thanks to all contributors and hosts. Once again, amazing discussion, stories and conclusions. Good shooting.
The M24 is definitely a more than adequate rifle for anything inside 800 yards tbh. I know civilians who think they need $5000 target rifles for hunting and I think it's just asinine.
Meanwhile I'm over here with that $170 770 in 30-06
@@Scrap_Goblin and I'm here with a 300 factory scoped savage 308 lol
Nobody needs a 5k dollar hunting rifle. But man they are fun to own and hunt with.
Different strokes!
@@scytheakse and im still workin grandads 99 savage in 300 sav. The 308s dad .
You 100% get more out of your money with premium components
Now those were fun guns! :)
Rob Ski!!!!!!
Your videos are something else. The amount of data that is analyzed is just astounding. Thank you.
Hmm. Does that optic have the bdc turret? If so I wonder how ammunition from the Era of the m24 differs from current 118lr.
The 800 meter target was a bit weird. Plus mornings are very strange for wind. Looks as if the ground is still icy.
Wonder if it made it difficult for the wind calls since a slight breeze pushes that round off target by a football field haha!. Great shooting and great looking gun.
No. I believe that scope has a mil reticle, and does not have BDC markings.
Period correct reticles were leupold mk3 mildots
But I believe turrets were moa. It's been nearly ten years and I can't remember.
@@Uberragen21 I know it has a mildot reticle. I was talking about the turret. I thought the scope turrets from that period were calibrated for 118lr.
@@china_man_actual I would think having the same measurement between the reticle and turret would be the standard, but stranger things have happened with government.
Thanks for a great episode! Love the M24 (so jealous!) and was also fun to see Rob being featured. Personally I wasn’t surprised by mirage after x shots in colder temperatures but maybe I missed the point.
Any chance you could run a TRG42 in .338LM in on this range?
They're going to run out of range... The British snipers routinely shoot Lapua Magnum to 1500-1800 meters.... I think this range stops at 1200 :P
Oh, why hello there!
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Henry cracks me up.
Great shooting by the way.
My main hunting rifle is a 308 Winchester. I had never shot it beyond 100 yards, most of the game around here is taken at shorter distances than that. I used to punch the 1 inch groups at 100 yards at the local indoor range and thought I was Daniel Boone.
One day, I joined a 1,000 yard range. Imagine my frustration when I discovered that, although the rifle was dead-nuts up to about 700 yards, it seemed to be the mercy of the wind after that. Even if I could hit the 1,000 yards in a particular wind, I had trouble holding it.
Suffice it to say, I have a genuine admiration for people who can read the wind well enough to keep a 308 on target at that range.
I love Rob's content AKOU, great collab with him.
Love you guys, you had the right guy to comment on that rifle.
Man, that FRF2 in the background is giving me infantry school vibes. 🤩
i absolutely love watching the rounds fall in on the target!
Very clear spotter, I was watching the bullet in flight. And the tie, I'm dying here.
Can I say you two guys bring pleasure to an old Englishman, I so wish I could shoot the rifles you shoot in 9 hole reviews, it’s one of the cons of living in the UK, keep shooting and vlogging and I’ll keep watching 👍👍👍👌👌👌🏴
Robski has one of the best UA-cam channels. He and Paul Harrell are my favorites.
3:45 I have never seen a bullet fly. Thanks! It's incredible!
Going back remembering the view of vapor trails during follow through looking along the sight alignment. Very neat to see the vapor trails captured in the down range camera 👍 Awesome Koo!
Love the way Henry is making those head shots.
Love the upgraded observer camera, which show the bullet! Nice
You were more consistent with your 700 5r barrel clone with 10 power scope, witch many would consider a "home built" M 24. That 700 you have is my favorite chapter.
Great content/information as always, appreciate it, keep up the good work and was great to see RobSki make an appearance 🇺🇸
Headshots within an inch out to 300 yards and the first miss at 800. Nice shooting, Henry.
I love the AK Operators Union, but I had no Idea Rob served in the US Army. We are so lucky to have him in our Country. Thanks for the awesome video!
You're kidding about Robbie, right? I had no idea that he was ex-military, and a trained marksman. That's phenomenal!! Thanks for the video and the fantastic interview!
In South Africa in the seventies when Sniping was being explored they used a single shot target rifle called a Musgrave RSA which was locally designed and produced for Bisley shooting and gained quite a reputation. It was heavy barreled half minute of angle capability. They lightened the stock, fitted a Scope and Voila. Of course the bush war soon necessitated a change to captured Russian Dragunovs not because of better accuracy but rather its multi shot capability ,and the fact that it used the enemy's ammunition so no tell tale 308 cases were laying around. I have one of those early model rifles and it is undoubtedly one of the most accurate 308's around ,even today. Highly sought after here because of its unbreakable action...
Damn you can REALLY see the rounds with the sun where it is during that run, what a sight to see
the sun at about dusk and down behind the shooter allows for us to see this phenomenon
@@reefread1234 Yea all the ranges in my area that are outside, have the sun above the shooter until it falls down under mountains sadly. We can shoot 855s and SS109s there though on their steel without risk of fire, which is pretty cool, and they're open until 9pm. It's either that or indoor ranges which i'm meh on
I've been subbed to AKOU for awhile, I had no idea he was an Army sniper. Much respect to Rob.