Wow sounds amazing mate, and thank you for offering up the direct files too! Will help my decision here! Didn't think the Jugs would be a touch brighter
Sounds terrific! I can't say anyone of them stood out above the other for me. Which is why I will probably have to get both sets haha. Sounds like they compliment each other really well!
I ended up going with the Ragnarok, based off of the slightly looser more aggressive nature. Honestly though there isn't HUGE differences between them. EQ pedal or amp tweaks could get you close, although the feel will be different.
Haha, thanks dude! I opened this project two days ago actually and think I may do an actual mix. The I can link the WAV and MP3 in the description and you can download it!
Both sound phenomenal, I find myself gravitating more towards the aggression of the Ragnaroks tbh. But I HAVE to know what specific model of Ibanez that is because it looks gorgeous
For me it almost sounds like there is someone screaming behind the Rags and I just love it! Agreed though that the Juggs cut like a knife without being harsh. Both amazing!
Freakin Stellar Playing my friend!! Juggernauts win it for me with that tight lower end. The Ragnarok sounded good but had a little more airy sound. But in the end, both sound incredible! Thx🤘
I'm surprised that the ragnaroks are better for cleans! I really couldn't tell a difference for just the distorted part, but I will say the juggernaut seemed a bit thicker for the solo. Might consider combining them, but wonder how they would sound in parallel.
Excellent comparison! In this Ibanez the Juggernault sounded more aggressive, open and balanced compared to the Ragnarok. So I preferred Juggernault. My question is whether to buy it with or without a cover.
If your guitar has a burst, transparent or wooden finish. Uncovered is the way for me! Unless it’s a les Paul. Then covered. The rule is there are no rules!
Thanks! My guitar is exactly the same as yours. RG721RW. Is there a difference in tone between the covered and open ones? what gauge of strings are you using?
@@rosenovai I’ve heard there’s a difference between covered and uncovered but I doubt it’s very much at all. Certainly not enough to not be balanced out on the amp, cab or mic! No idea anymore. Think it was a 7 string set but I used the low 6 strings. So had a wound G. Ernie ball.
Im going to Run This Combo on an 8-string stephen carpenter Clone: Two Bridge Pickups Bottom Bridge: Juggernaut.....Top Bridge: Ragnarok......my second option was Bottom Nazgul Top Pegasus...i think youve helped me make up my mind Ill Probably go With the Bareknuckles over Seymour Duncans 🤙
Awesome riffing, and sweet production! Hard for me to decide! Seems like the Juggys might be a little more percussive on the low end while the Rags are a little brighter up top. Which is your favorite?
I pretty much agree with your conclusions. Favourite is maybe too subjective though, but in this context, the type of Ghost Inside thing I was doing here I think the Rags. But if you had a 7 string or were more prog based then the Juggs. For me on the whole I do next to no full Djenting. So Rags, but there are times I wish I still had the Juggs!
@@kaisound868 thanks for the reply, sir! Yeah crap. That's what I was afraid of. We're Dysmorphic Demiurge (BDM/SLAM), and I just bought a Skervy Chocolate 7 string multiscale with Juggs in it. So, that ain't gonna work. 😕 Still, thanks for the reply, awesome video, and new sub!
Awesome video and playing Kai. Please share a new dropbox link for the DIs. The old one is broken. I am deciding between these two pickups for a 7 string.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but why specifically do you prefer the Ragnaroks? I only ask because I'm torn between the two, and this was one of the top 3 comparison videos of the PUPs that I've found over my 1-2 week search on this specific comparison. I currently have Aftermath PUPs in my Solar V1.6 and I LOVE THEM, but for my E-II Arrow 7-string I want something with tighter low-end frequency response, great articulation in the mid-range, and less high-end frequency response (which is what I get from the Aftermaths). So I'm torn between the Ragnarok and Juggernaut! The top 3 videos I have left me either leaning toward one or the other, or just as ambivalent before I narrowed my selection to these two PUPs.
Based on what you've said, i think the Juggs will be closer to what you describe. I've never had the aftermaths but always thought they sounded a little harsh. Neither of Mishas sets suffer from that. Now bear in mind, its been years since I did this, and there was a 3 week period between each playing, so the audio here is better than my memory. I felt the rags were a little looser in the low end, and a bit more uncontrolled in general and that worked for me.
@@chazriley7075 I said F it and bought the Rags and the Jugs (they arrive today). I'm going to try the Rags first, and then the Jugs. Whichever I like the most, I'll keep in the Arrow, and put the other in my Ibanez RGIX27. The Aftermath pups are HOT for a passive pup, but they sound OUTSTANDING in my Solar Canibalismo man. I'm tempted to get a set of 7-string Aftermath pups as well to try out in one of my 7-strings as well. However, I tune my 6-strings to C-standard usually, and my 7-strings just a half-step down. I feel like if I was in standard tuning the Aftermath's wouldn't sound as good because they are no kidding the hottest passive pup I've ever played in my life. My intuition tells me the Aftermaths might sound a bit over saturated on the high-end. However, if I'm conflicted on which I like better in my Arrow after I try the Rags and Jugs in it; I may just buy a set of Aftermath pups for the 7-strings and do a comparison. I'll be soldering pups every weekend for the next few weeks regardless. Let me know what you decide and how give me an honest review once you've tested them. I'm curious to compare your thoughts in contrast to my own relative to my RGIX27.
Thanks man for the comparison!. I've been wondering for some time now!. You recommend the Juggs in the Bridge and Raggs in the neck for a 7 string, right?. I'm currently thinking about getting a set like that. I'm thinking it'll also help as I have a Mesa Tri Rec.
Wayne De Zwart hey dude, I would really say that I’d prefer the Juggs in both positions for a 7, but honestly the differences are quite small! But I guess having a Rag in the neck could make it sound a bit more knarly which could be super cool!
Hey, thanks for your kind words! I don't know if I did, it was the original wiring and pots, so whatever the 721RW came with is what's in it for both pickups.
Thanks for posting the DIs - they're proving very helpful in helping me choose between the two! However the Rag Lead DI appears to missing from the downloads folder - do you still have that lying about at all?
Good videos man. What do you think of the STL stuff vs. the MT15 from your other video? How much of a difference do you experience running a tube head with impulse responses vs a sim?
Hey dude, I may be doing a video on just this at some stage! So, I feel theres the obvious stuff like getting set up with a plugin is easier. Recalling settings in the future is easier. But what I would say is that across the board, I feel plugins have a harshness to them in the high strings. So if you play a chord covering all 6 strings, I feel an amp has a lower chance of sounding harsh/cutting in an unpleasant way. What STL have done is seemingly make mix ready tones in a way I've never heard. They don't strictly sound like an amp would sound fully , but they sound like a mixed guitar tone more easily. In addition they seem to give you software that is incredibly easy to get a good sound from. Something not many accomplish. Bias 2 for example I found to be near impossible to get a good sound from. Pod Farm 2 was difficult too unless you had the american mic pre at the end of your chain. But the STL stuff is straightforward. The caveats to this would be the Neural DSP stuff, to me they sound like amps, which although incredible I didn't love the Fearless or NTS for what I do, and then the Helix Native which was stunning but just too expensive for me. I think software is the way to go unless you have thousands to throw at guitar amps and solutions, or plenty of time to slowly acquire the gear. Over 7 years or so I have bought 4 lunchbox tube heads, tonnes of pedals, and a load box and I can't get any sound under the sun just yet, but am close. For the price of the cheapest head, (Egnater Tweaker at roughly £300) you could basically buy all three Neural DSP Amp Sims, or Helix Native, or both STL suites and realistically you should be able to get near perfect tone with that! Hope that helps! Sorry for the essay!
the DIs were so clean… any tips on acheiving this clean DIs??? I have the juggs and was here to see how the rags compared to juggs… but again im a noob, main reason that i dont achieve these clean riffs…
A lot of it will depend on your DI box/interface. When I had a focusrite scarlet gen 1/2 I always had dead distorted sounding DIs. I got an audient id22 afterward and the built in DI was miles better and cleaner, the two notes reload di was better again, and now a radial pro 48 which is like £100 is better again. Basically you need headroom, and the Radial does this best. Then it’s about making sure your absolute peaks are less than -10db, to be safe maybe even -16db. You can always turn them up later, but you can’t get rid of clipping.
I already have a Jug set on a 7 string guitar, and I’m thinking about a Ragnarok bridge on an 8 string, in place of the Aftermath it’s got at the moment (not a very good idea, actually, I loved the Aftermath bridge on a very dark and middy 6 string I had, but it doesn’t really compliment the much more open and bright acoustic tone of my 8). Your video left me much less sure of my choice, though. Partly because I prefer the Jugs all the way, and partly because I fear the Ragnarok could be overwhelming on the 8th string (I use it very much like a 7 with an added low E, and most stuff happens on the first 7 strings, but still...)
Claudia Meolo81 it’s only my opinion, but I would have the Juggs in a 7/8 any day. But like you can hear, it’s not a craaaazy big difference. For instance if you pick more lightly than most then I imagine the Rag would be just fine!
freaking good comparison between the pick-ups! Also thanks for the Di track (except, it looks like it misses the distortion Ragnarok part?!). But either way, I think I prefer the tone of the Ragnarok better and will probably put them in my Solar guitar :) Thanks for the video!
@@kaisound868 Yeah, we could still listen to your video wich is great, but the intent of the Di was really great until I noticed the distortion Ragnarok tracks were missing héhé.
I got an Aristides 070 with Ragnarok 7's over a year ago and I just can't seem to like the pickups. I have a Mayones with Juggernauts that I love but the Ragnaroks sound weak to me... The only reason I can think of for this is because they have covers on them so I'm going to try to take the covers off to see if that makes a difference before I swap pickups. Has anybody tried Ragnaroks with covers on them?
I had the same experience in an 070R equipped w/ an Evertune and Ragnaroks. I didn't vibe w/ the guitar and the Rags seemed very weak (I think due to pickup covers, tone knob, and evertune bridge). I got another 070R w/ a hipshot, vol only, and Juggernauts (with covers btw) and it slays. From my personal experience the Rags are not very hot pickups and I find the Juggs to be hotter. For the Rags removing the covers will help and removing the tone pot if your guitar has one. Personally I prefer the Rags in 6 string guitars cause the low end is massive. I prefer the Juggs for 7 strings (especially for low tunings) because they are tighter, more focused, and work w/ the extended frequencies better.
@@jaykeunit I didn't know you could remove the tone pot, I might try that. It sounds like that could be the problem, when I roll down the tone knob on my other guitars it actually sounds just like my 070 does with the tone knob all the way up so it could be the wiring not let me turn it up all the way.
@@cashway0420 If you look at the way Misha's Jacksons are built, the tone pot by default is not engaged. It is actually a push/pull tone pot and you have to pull up to engage it. Having a tone pot adds resistance into the circuitry and reduces the output of pickups. I would be willing to bet that when Misha designed these pickups they were intended to be used without a tone pot. Hope that helps solve your issue!
@@jaykeunit Cool, I never use the tone knob on my metal guitars anyways so I might try that with my juggernauts and Fishman Moderns too. Thanks for the info.
If I'm being honest I couldn't hear enough of a difference between the two during the distortion riffs except the lows seemed to be SLIGHTLY wider and precise on the Ragnarok, It could be the headphones I'm listening on but for the Ragnarok during the 2:12 part I definitely felt like I was hearing more bite and responsiveness to the picking. The juggernaut definitely felt more "The Ghost Inside" vibes whereas the Ragnarok felt more "August Burns Red" (if that even makes sense ) both pickups had a great clean sound but I definitely had an attraction to the Ragnarok there, Very bright/ethereal.
I keep coming back to this video and flip flopping back and forth 😭 I think I’ll do Juggs in a 6 string and Rags in a 7, since most of my favorite 7 string songs are played on Rags
Hey, thanks for the compliment! Pretty sure on this one it was a DI through the two notes reload, which I now don’t love as a DI capturing solution as much as a dedicated active DI box, and used the STL tones Howard Benson suite.
@@kaisound868 Thank you, Daniel! Sorry, I'm new to your channel, and you may already have such video, but it would be nice to make one where you describe the recording process and show what tools you use, and how you make that wonderful sound music. Thank you!
@@sgeorgiev hi Stefan, I have a series that isn’t finished yet that explains just that in 10 minute videos from the very start to nearly the very end. It’s on my channel and I think it’s called the mixing series!
De LaMar I think on this one it was the Ernie Ball beefy slinky, so 11-54 I think? If I went down to this tubing again I would use the mammoths though tbh
@@kaisound868 Well, 11-54 is unexpected. You must have a very light touch. I went trough those but had too much buzz for my taste. Currently I use a 10-46 set but get rid of the 10 and put a 70 on top. Sounds great and holds the pitch well but feels quite heavy. Also 25.5.
De LaMar I would say I play pretty hard, but think I used a 0.73 pick which would have helped I guess! Maybe I use a higher action as well which would stop buzzing?
Its a good guitar playthrough video, technique is fluid but firm and precise and notes are well spaced, but I get lost when its time to know which pickup is which cause frames switch randomly and too fast sometimes to grasp the essence of the sound. Plus, with the band playing as a whole (its good to have it for a reference point) but I would have liked to maybe hear both pickups guitar only playing the same riff/lick. Good tune though !
Hey Cédrik, it seems like for the most part you enjoyed the video or found it useful I hope? I get that the frames change somewhat quickly, but the pickups are what tell you what it is that you are hearing. White bobbins is the Ragnarok and black is the Juggernaut. Additionally, I knew people would want more flexibility than I could offer in a video so added the files for people to play with themselves in the description. Hopefully that helps!
While the quick cuts are certainly unnecessary and annoying, the content of this comparison is one of the best I’ve seen for any pickups. It wasn’t difficult to tell which pickup was being used.
I wish you could make guitar lessons-- How did you create the background???? Your leads sing cosmic harmonic overtones in the music multi-verse....I like the heavy sounds ....but the clean parts are so musically,,, You could create a guitar course I am transitioning from classic rock to new metal or what your playing ,,,What is this type of music called????????????? The clean chords then the leads are outer worldly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks dude, huge compliment but I'm not cut out for teaching I don't think! I write mostly by noodling around an idea and try and develop it from there. Feels clunky a lot of the time sadly. I guess this song is hardcore? But has a lot of influences in it. The Ghost Inside, Periphery, The Eagles, Guns n Roses, Bleed from Within, I think most of them can be heard here, but the core of the song is The Ghost Inside for sure.
That demo was insane!! But those pups both sound Hella compressed. No winner is totally right, they both have their... oh forget it I'm going to top myself over this. Going with the Warpig's I guess 🐼⚡
They definately both drive the amp sim hard, but the ragnarok push it a chunk harder I’d say, wouldn’t say they’re over compressed though, that just may be my hand being aggressive!
@@kaisound868 Yea I keep hearing conflicting opinions on whether both sets are overly compressed (cocked wah sound) but my ears don't hear over compression, just more than other pups by BKP. You're reply is fresh air, glad to hear you think alike. You have any opinions on the warpig's? I was a hair away from having a Rag bridge and Silo neck wound up, but I've got a quite opinionated guitar tech at a licensed bkp dealer not too far from me saying getting a mixed set is pointless. Insists calibrated sets compliment each other and that the warpig set sound incredible. He sounds warpig biased dude, idk 🤔
@@Alx61710 sadly I’ve never used the war pig but I doubt from BKP you’d get anything that would sound ‘bad’. To a degree about the cocked wah you kind of have a point but that’s the sound of modern djenty stuff in a way. Best bet is download the DI files in the description and try them on your setup to see how they sound. The non-calibrated set I am surprised by, but email BKP themselves and they’ll give you an honest answer too.
@@kaisound868 I appreciate cha man, thanks a million.. I'm gonna email BKP and see what Tim's peoples think about it. I've heard way too many positive things about the Rags/Juggs, I think I'm communicating with a calibrated warpig biased individual. Oh and that idea of running the DI track through my setup - dude 💡 if ever 🤯 Thank you!
Great stuff mate!! Thanks a lot for the qualitative comparison. I was actually hesitating between the 2 and my preference still leans towards the Ragnarok. Cheers!!
@@kaisound868 must have been my browser... Tried with my phone and it worked. Thank you so much ! This will help with choosing the right one for my gear. Greatly appreciated 👌
Best bet I’d say is download the DIs and run them into whatever you usually play. You’ll be more aware of the differences that way. Juggernaut to me is tighter and more defined.
Frank Bongiovanni so this guitar came to me with the Juggs. But it looks like no routing was done! Height wise I just adjusted until I felt I had got the maximum volume with no loss of sustain.
Kai Sound they’ve got great beers and great artwork as well. What woods are used in the body of that guitar? Kind of looks like dark stained mahogany. I’ve got an RGA121 with a maple cap over mahogany and I’m torn between the two pickups. Leaning towards the fatness of the juggernauts since I know the maple cap on my guitar will give the overall response more “snap”. Any thoughts?
HomeBrewedHero hey dude, pretty sure it’s an alder body with a rosewood cap. It’s a RG721 premium, specs will be out there somewhere! I think you’ll be happy with either. I’d say if the guitar is lacking in something that one of these seems to have, then go for that pickup? I know that’s kind of vague but my knowledge on tonewoods isn’t sufficient to give you a solid answer. Hopefully that helps?
Kai Sound no sweat, my setup currently has EMG 81/85 and they’re just not my thing anymore. They’re too compressed and clinical to my ear. The ragnaroks seem to be a little more compressed than the juggernauts. Just my ear, but they both sound great in that guitar. Thanks for sharing the specs. Rosewood is a little darker sounding than maple so that’s good to know! Thanks again and have a great one!
Joe MArabella I wasn’t sure. But then I did a comparison where I played a set of Dimarzio pickups on a Ibanez iron label and honestly the difference was huge. When I can afford it I will get a Juggernaut for the iron label 7 string. Big difference!
My opinion. We come to hear the pickups, not the drums. So I'd make vids like this where you drop the drums to show how it sounds mixed but then bring it back to just guitars. Hard to hear notes clarity when there's drums slamming. Sounded hood all together but still just saying future, please just separate the drums from the guitars. Amazing playing though.
Thanks for the comment, I feel that leads to videos that end up being quite long, so for this one I have the DIs in the description as that would let you really check things however you think is best, with your own amps or software. Thanks for the feedback though! I do this on some videos, but not all!
@@kaisound868 yea for sure. I'll be making vids hopefully soon like yours one day. Lol.. just bought bias fx 2 elite software but after hearing your tones I'm just hoping and praying bias fx 2 elite version can make those tones. I got it 80% off so was like why not.. but now I realize they have a metal expansion I need that's another $109 for me to upgrade.. 😒 hate being broke and trying to get going. Lol.
Excellent vid - just a few things 1) You only appear to play the bridge pickup of the Ragnarok (apart from one small part when you switched to middle position) 2) You played parts using the Juggernauts with mostly bridge and some middle position. 3) Are both neck pickups poo? 4) Again, great vid and thanks for the effort you put in here. 5) Great tune and superb playing, mate. Nice one!
1. The video doesn’t match the audio sadly, the jugg is closer. 2. Think the clean bits were either position 2/4 which if remember the wiring is outer coils either in parallel or series? 3. Wouldn’t have said so no! 4/5. Thanks!!
4:12 is so beautiful clean---dreamy sound what pick up is it please??????????????? And @ 5:10 into th video fantastic clean dream sound _Amazing what is that Humbucker ?????????????? That could be a movie score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So it looks like its the Juggernaut, position wise it will probably be a mix of position 4 and position 2, so split coils and maybe position 2 on the right and 4 on the left or something. Sadly I'm not 100% sure!
@@kaisound868 I'm impressed an Ibanez (thin neck) can hold such tunings. I'm asking because I'm about to play (and possibly buy) this very same guitar tomorrow.
@@dokterkarel it’s as low as it would go and the strings are really thick. I think in an ideal world I wouldn’t have less than a 26.5” scale to go this low, and drop B feels about right, maybe drop C. Otherwise the strings stop feeling like strings to me, and feel like cables
@@kaisound868 I had an ibanez baritone 26.5" until a couple of years ago. Tuned in B with 13-59's. Tuning was tight and stable but indeed, the strings were steel cables.
@@dokterkarel yeah I think I had mammoth slinkys for this video, and it’s just not comfy. I generally like thick strings, like 1 up from standard for a given scale length, but once you get that thick it just doesn’t feel like a string anymore! I think a iron label 26.5 with a pick-up swap is the way to go. And get a tech to do the fretwork. This guitar does play lovely though. It’s worth more than you’d pay!
I played a few jugg sets ands they sounded like ass with a heavy low mid boost. Barely sounded decent in really low tunings. It was probably due to Misha's three fingered picking style before he corrected it at the time of it's creation.
I liked the track but if the sound was from what you were playing in the video then you didnt test them right. You had one selector set to the bridge pickup then the other in the middle position which could be a plethora of different combinations, split, singleb ect... Next time test em both exactly the same
Bobby Wright hey dude. So filming wise, you’re right. Different positions. But audio wise they are 100% the same. So what you hear is identical pickup positions. I try and keep things visually accurate too, but sometimes they skip through!
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Bro are we just gonna ignore how sick this song was holy shit I completely forgot I was even watching a pickup comparison
0/10 not scientific enough. pickup colours were different. disliked and unsubbed.
Oh god you’re right! I’m off to go top myself 💀☠️🤣
Woww man great riffage. Came for the pickups, stayed for the chug.
thanks dude!
Damn dude, you surprised me with your playing.That was killer playing and you really helped me come to a decision.Awesome comparison video.
Thanks man! I'm glad I was able to help!
Wow sounds amazing mate, and thank you for offering up the direct files too! Will help my decision here! Didn't think the Jugs would be a touch brighter
That sounds absolutely INSANE!
Sounds terrific! I can't say anyone of them stood out above the other for me. Which is why I will probably have to get both sets haha. Sounds like they compliment each other really well!
Excellent video! I’ve fallen in love with both pickups now haha
Listening to the riff that starts at 2:48, I prefer the ragnaroks. They sound less muddy.
Thanks for this video. This has helped me pull the trigger on the Juggernaut
i would be super happy with either set! The Juggs may be a little more suited for my playing but i also love the punchyness of the Raggs!
This sound is insane. Can you please do a walk-through of how you record things?
Thanks! There’s a playlist on my channel about a everything in recording!
@@kaisound868 no way. This is a godsend you absolute legend. And a lighting fast response too. You just earned a sub.
Hey great content man thanks, although my question is which ones would you personally pick ?
I ended up going with the Ragnarok, based off of the slightly looser more aggressive nature. Honestly though there isn't HUGE differences between them. EQ pedal or amp tweaks could get you close, although the feel will be different.
Honestly, came here for the demo and over a year later I keep coming back to hear this. Can you get this on Spotify or something?
Haha, thanks dude! I opened this project two days ago actually and think I may do an actual mix. The I can link the WAV and MP3 in the description and you can download it!
www.dropbox.com/s/9vzubds401r3lr1/Ragnarok%20MIX1.mp3?dl=0
@@kaisound868 Thanks man, appreciate it. such tight playing!
Ended up putting a set of Ragnaroks in my E-II Arrow. KILLLER set of pickups! They sound insane for metal and they clean up surprisingly nice!
They are beasts!
Both sound phenomenal, I find myself gravitating more towards the aggression of the Ragnaroks tbh. But I HAVE to know what specific model of Ibanez that is because it looks gorgeous
RG721RW, bought used in 2016 for £400 including the bareknuckle juggernauts!
Great video. Loved the upper mid bite of the Juggs, but the Rag clean was really nice
For me it almost sounds like there is someone screaming behind the Rags and I just love it! Agreed though that the Juggs cut like a knife without being harsh. Both amazing!
Those Juggernauts sound awesome! Same with your playing.
Freakin Stellar Playing my friend!! Juggernauts win it for me with that tight lower end. The Ragnarok sounded good but had a little more airy sound. But in the end, both sound incredible! Thx🤘
Great way to isolate the variables dude. Solid review
I'm surprised that the ragnaroks are better for cleans! I really couldn't tell a difference for just the distorted part, but I will say the juggernaut seemed a bit thicker for the solo. Might consider combining them, but wonder how they would sound in parallel.
Amazing review, please do more!
Thanks dude! Plan is to keep going with this kinda stuff!
Excellent comparison! In this Ibanez the Juggernault sounded more aggressive, open and balanced compared to the Ragnarok. So I preferred Juggernault. My question is whether to buy it with or without a cover.
If your guitar has a burst, transparent or wooden finish. Uncovered is the way for me! Unless it’s a les Paul. Then covered. The rule is there are no rules!
Thanks! My guitar is exactly the same as yours. RG721RW. Is there a difference in tone between the covered and open ones?
what gauge of strings are you using?
@@rosenovai I’ve heard there’s a difference between covered and uncovered but I doubt it’s very much at all. Certainly not enough to not be balanced out on the amp, cab or mic!
No idea anymore. Think it was a 7 string set but I used the low 6 strings. So had a wound G. Ernie ball.
thanks buddy!
Juggernauts are definitely tighter and have more low end. I love the Ragnarok too though.
Both sounds very very good. Ragnarok is more clear, but Jugg is more balanced.
Im going to Run This Combo on an 8-string stephen carpenter Clone: Two Bridge Pickups Bottom Bridge: Juggernaut.....Top Bridge: Ragnarok......my second option was Bottom Nazgul Top Pegasus...i think youve helped me make up my mind Ill Probably go With the Bareknuckles over Seymour Duncans 🤙
Awesome riffing, and sweet production! Hard for me to decide! Seems like the Juggys might be a little more percussive on the low end while the Rags are a little brighter up top. Which is your favorite?
I pretty much agree with your conclusions. Favourite is maybe too subjective though, but in this context, the type of Ghost Inside thing I was doing here I think the Rags. But if you had a 7 string or were more prog based then the Juggs. For me on the whole I do next to no full Djenting. So Rags, but there are times I wish I still had the Juggs!
@@kaisound868 thanks for the reply, sir! Yeah crap. That's what I was afraid of. We're Dysmorphic Demiurge (BDM/SLAM), and I just bought a Skervy Chocolate 7 string multiscale with Juggs in it. So, that ain't gonna work. 😕 Still, thanks for the reply, awesome video, and new sub!
Awesome video and playing Kai. Please share a new dropbox link for the DIs. The old one is broken. I am deciding between these two pickups for a 7 string.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but why specifically do you prefer the Ragnaroks? I only ask because I'm torn between the two, and this was one of the top 3 comparison videos of the PUPs that I've found over my 1-2 week search on this specific comparison. I currently have Aftermath PUPs in my Solar V1.6 and I LOVE THEM, but for my E-II Arrow 7-string I want something with tighter low-end frequency response, great articulation in the mid-range, and less high-end frequency response (which is what I get from the Aftermaths). So I'm torn between the Ragnarok and Juggernaut! The top 3 videos I have left me either leaning toward one or the other, or just as ambivalent before I narrowed my selection to these two PUPs.
Based on what you've said, i think the Juggs will be closer to what you describe. I've never had the aftermaths but always thought they sounded a little harsh. Neither of Mishas sets suffer from that. Now bear in mind, its been years since I did this, and there was a 3 week period between each playing, so the audio here is better than my memory. I felt the rags were a little looser in the low end, and a bit more uncontrolled in general and that worked for me.
@@kaisound868 I'll give the Juggs a go then and reply to this post again after I've played them for a month or so. Thanks for the input bro 🤘
@@Earth-Worm-Tim I'm in the same boat man but I'm loading them into my ibanez rgd 2127z
@@Earth-Worm-Tim I'm gonna order the ragnaroks for a drop G# tuning.
@@chazriley7075 I said F it and bought the Rags and the Jugs (they arrive today). I'm going to try the Rags first, and then the Jugs. Whichever I like the most, I'll keep in the Arrow, and put the other in my Ibanez RGIX27. The Aftermath pups are HOT for a passive pup, but they sound OUTSTANDING in my Solar Canibalismo man. I'm tempted to get a set of 7-string Aftermath pups as well to try out in one of my 7-strings as well. However, I tune my 6-strings to C-standard usually, and my 7-strings just a half-step down. I feel like if I was in standard tuning the Aftermath's wouldn't sound as good because they are no kidding the hottest passive pup I've ever played in my life. My intuition tells me the Aftermaths might sound a bit over saturated on the high-end. However, if I'm conflicted on which I like better in my Arrow after I try the Rags and Jugs in it; I may just buy a set of Aftermath pups for the 7-strings and do a comparison. I'll be soldering pups every weekend for the next few weeks regardless. Let me know what you decide and how give me an honest review once you've tested them. I'm curious to compare your thoughts in contrast to my own relative to my RGIX27.
Excellent demo mate. Cheers
Thanks man for the comparison!. I've been wondering for some time now!. You recommend the Juggs in the Bridge and Raggs in the neck for a 7 string, right?. I'm currently thinking about getting a set like that. I'm thinking it'll also help as I have a Mesa Tri Rec.
Wayne De Zwart hey dude, I would really say that I’d prefer the Juggs in both positions for a 7, but honestly the differences are quite small! But I guess having a Rag in the neck could make it sound a bit more knarly which could be super cool!
They are extremely similar but from what differences I can discern, I'd say I prefer the Ragnarok's
Yeah dude, for me I'd say the Ragnaroks suit me more! But maybe on a 7 I'd take the Juggs
What a great comparison, the song also great too.
By the way, did you use any capacitor on the wiring set? Such as orange drop?
Hey, thanks for your kind words!
I don't know if I did, it was the original wiring and pots, so whatever the 721RW came with is what's in it for both pickups.
Can't hear the difference with my earphones. Both sound awesome!
Thanks for posting the DIs - they're proving very helpful in helping me choose between the two! However the Rag Lead DI appears to missing from the downloads folder - do you still have that lying about at all?
Glad its helping! Sorry that its missing! I probably do, let me take a look today and see if I can get a hold of it!
Nice video man. I want to get both sets...that's why I just bought your set...from your link :) Cheers
haha awesome! will be shipping them tomorrow!!
Couldn't focus on the pickups, but dang! That song was tasty
Good videos man. What do you think of the STL stuff vs. the MT15 from your other video? How much of a difference do you experience running a tube head with impulse responses vs a sim?
Hey dude, I may be doing a video on just this at some stage! So, I feel theres the obvious stuff like getting set up with a plugin is easier. Recalling settings in the future is easier. But what I would say is that across the board, I feel plugins have a harshness to them in the high strings. So if you play a chord covering all 6 strings, I feel an amp has a lower chance of sounding harsh/cutting in an unpleasant way. What STL have done is seemingly make mix ready tones in a way I've never heard. They don't strictly sound like an amp would sound fully , but they sound like a mixed guitar tone more easily. In addition they seem to give you software that is incredibly easy to get a good sound from. Something not many accomplish. Bias 2 for example I found to be near impossible to get a good sound from. Pod Farm 2 was difficult too unless you had the american mic pre at the end of your chain. But the STL stuff is straightforward. The caveats to this would be the Neural DSP stuff, to me they sound like amps, which although incredible I didn't love the Fearless or NTS for what I do, and then the Helix Native which was stunning but just too expensive for me.
I think software is the way to go unless you have thousands to throw at guitar amps and solutions, or plenty of time to slowly acquire the gear. Over 7 years or so I have bought 4 lunchbox tube heads, tonnes of pedals, and a load box and I can't get any sound under the sun just yet, but am close. For the price of the cheapest head, (Egnater Tweaker at roughly £300) you could basically buy all three Neural DSP Amp Sims, or Helix Native, or both STL suites and realistically you should be able to get near perfect tone with that!
Hope that helps! Sorry for the essay!
Brilliant comparison
Hello very nice and interesting video which tuning is used for this demo ?
Thanks! Its drop A#, same as the ghost inside used historically. Definitely heavily inspired by them too!
That is my dream guitar, I'm always bummed to see how hard they are to find these days!
Keep an eye out on Reverb! They do show up from time to time!
the DIs were so clean… any tips on acheiving this clean DIs??? I have the juggs and was here to see how the rags compared to juggs… but again im a noob, main reason that i dont achieve these clean riffs…
A lot of it will depend on your DI box/interface. When I had a focusrite scarlet gen 1/2 I always had dead distorted sounding DIs. I got an audient id22 afterward and the built in DI was miles better and cleaner, the two notes reload di was better again, and now a radial pro 48 which is like £100 is better again. Basically you need headroom, and the Radial does this best. Then it’s about making sure your absolute peaks are less than -10db, to be safe maybe even -16db. You can always turn them up later, but you can’t get rid of clipping.
Okay so buying the Rag set and a new guitar to put the jugs in haha. Awesome review and playing man cheers.
haha good stuff! Glad you enjoyed it!
I already have a Jug set on a 7 string guitar, and I’m thinking about a Ragnarok bridge on an 8 string, in place of the Aftermath it’s got at the moment (not a very good idea, actually, I loved the Aftermath bridge on a very dark and middy 6 string I had, but it doesn’t really compliment the much more open and bright acoustic tone of my 8). Your video left me much less sure of my choice, though. Partly because I prefer the Jugs all the way, and partly because I fear the Ragnarok could be overwhelming on the 8th string (I use it very much like a 7 with an added low E, and most stuff happens on the first 7 strings, but still...)
Claudia Meolo81 it’s only my opinion, but I would have the Juggs in a 7/8 any day. But like you can hear, it’s not a craaaazy big difference. For instance if you pick more lightly than most then I imagine the Rag would be just fine!
freaking good comparison between the pick-ups! Also thanks for the Di track (except, it looks like it misses the distortion Ragnarok part?!). But either way, I think I prefer the tone of the Ragnarok better and will probably put them in my Solar guitar :) Thanks for the video!
J-F Quévillon hey dude, thanks for the comment! I’ll need to look into that missing file though cause that’s no good at all!
@@kaisound868 Yeah, we could still listen to your video wich is great, but the intent of the Di was really great until I noticed the distortion Ragnarok tracks were missing héhé.
@@j-fquevillon8134 Hey dude, that should be it fixed now! Can't believe I missed this! >:)
Awesome demo track \m/
The juggernaut all the way !!!
They compliment each other so much.
Great review!
I got an Aristides 070 with Ragnarok 7's over a year ago and I just can't seem to like the pickups. I have a Mayones with Juggernauts that I love but the Ragnaroks sound weak to me... The only reason I can think of for this is because they have covers on them so I'm going to try to take the covers off to see if that makes a difference before I swap pickups. Has anybody tried Ragnaroks with covers on them?
Have you tried raising the height of the pickups yet?
I had the same experience in an 070R equipped w/ an Evertune and Ragnaroks. I didn't vibe w/ the guitar and the Rags seemed very weak (I think due to pickup covers, tone knob, and evertune bridge). I got another 070R w/ a hipshot, vol only, and Juggernauts (with covers btw) and it slays. From my personal experience the Rags are not very hot pickups and I find the Juggs to be hotter. For the Rags removing the covers will help and removing the tone pot if your guitar has one. Personally I prefer the Rags in 6 string guitars cause the low end is massive. I prefer the Juggs for 7 strings (especially for low tunings) because they are tighter, more focused, and work w/ the extended frequencies better.
@@jaykeunit I didn't know you could remove the tone pot, I might try that. It sounds like that could be the problem, when I roll down the tone knob on my other guitars it actually sounds just like my 070 does with the tone knob all the way up so it could be the wiring not let me turn it up all the way.
@@cashway0420 If you look at the way Misha's Jacksons are built, the tone pot by default is not engaged. It is actually a push/pull tone pot and you have to pull up to engage it. Having a tone pot adds resistance into the circuitry and reduces the output of pickups. I would be willing to bet that when Misha designed these pickups they were intended to be used without a tone pot. Hope that helps solve your issue!
@@jaykeunit Cool, I never use the tone knob on my metal guitars anyways so I might try that with my juggernauts and Fishman Moderns too. Thanks for the info.
If I'm being honest I couldn't hear enough of a difference between the two during the distortion riffs except the lows seemed to be SLIGHTLY wider and precise on the Ragnarok, It could be the headphones I'm listening on but for the Ragnarok during the 2:12 part I definitely felt like I was hearing more bite and responsiveness to the picking. The juggernaut definitely felt more "The Ghost Inside" vibes whereas the Ragnarok felt more "August Burns Red" (if that even makes sense ) both pickups had a great clean sound but I definitely had an attraction to the Ragnarok there, Very bright/ethereal.
Brandon Wilkerson that’s a super fun way to describe it and I kinda get it! When I bought them I expected it to be the other way round!
I keep coming back to this video and flip flopping back and forth 😭 I think I’ll do Juggs in a 6 string and Rags in a 7, since most of my favorite 7 string songs are played on Rags
I've had too much to drink to know what's going on but I think I like the Juggernauts.
Quit drinking🙅♂️
@@zigazorin8893 I did that once.
@@unoriginal7126 smoke pot
Awesome one! Would you share your setup? I love the tone!!!
Hey, thanks for the compliment! Pretty sure on this one it was a DI through the two notes reload, which I now don’t love as a DI capturing solution as much as a dedicated active DI box, and used the STL tones Howard Benson suite.
@@kaisound868 Thank you, Daniel! Sorry, I'm new to your channel, and you may already have such video, but it would be nice to make one where you describe the recording process and show what tools you use, and how you make that wonderful sound music. Thank you!
@@sgeorgiev hi Stefan, I have a series that isn’t finished yet that explains just that in 10 minute videos from the very start to nearly the very end. It’s on my channel and I think it’s called the mixing series!
@@kaisound868 Thank you, I'll take a look!
@@sgeorgiev If that doesn't work, follow this guide! ua-cam.com/video/6Y56k6SzA_k/v-deo.html
Ragnarok has more low end, and wider bass tone, and more low middle, like another pups in periphery members, sd alpha omega and titan
Brutal tight guitar tone ! I am abducted. Through which amp you go?
Hey dude, pretty sire this was the STL Tonality Howard Benson Suite.
Which set of strings were you using. Sounds tight and clear for drop A# with a plain g string.
De LaMar I think on this one it was the Ernie Ball beefy slinky, so 11-54 I think? If I went down to this tubing again I would use the mammoths though tbh
@@kaisound868 Well, 11-54 is unexpected. You must have a very light touch. I went trough those but had too much buzz for my taste. Currently I use a 10-46 set but get rid of the 10 and put a 70 on top. Sounds great and holds the pitch well but feels quite heavy. Also 25.5.
De LaMar I would say I play pretty hard, but think I used a 0.73 pick which would have helped I guess! Maybe I use a higher action as well which would stop buzzing?
@@kaisound868 Yes, a lighter pick would compensate for that of course. Well, there are surely quite some personal variables in the game.
De LaMar agreed!
Very well done! Awesome video :)
Its a good guitar playthrough video, technique is fluid but firm and precise and notes are well spaced, but I get lost when its time to know which pickup is which cause frames switch randomly and too fast sometimes to grasp the essence of the sound. Plus, with the band playing as a whole (its good to have it for a reference point) but I would have liked to maybe hear both pickups guitar only playing the same riff/lick. Good tune though !
Hey Cédrik, it seems like for the most part you enjoyed the video or found it useful I hope? I get that the frames change somewhat quickly, but the pickups are what tell you what it is that you are hearing. White bobbins is the Ragnarok and black is the Juggernaut. Additionally, I knew people would want more flexibility than I could offer in a video so added the files for people to play with themselves in the description. Hopefully that helps!
While the quick cuts are certainly unnecessary and annoying, the content of this comparison is one of the best I’ve seen for any pickups. It wasn’t difficult to tell which pickup was being used.
At 2:12, what's the deal with the tone? Could somebody please explain to me what this is called or how to do it? Cheers!
Pretty much a lo-fi effect, chopping off almost all the low and high end.
I'm shocked. I preferred the cream/black combo, especially on the clean settings, which is apparently the Ragnarok set.
It is indeed, I think that they are a bit more cutting. But get the DI files and try reamping for yourself!
@@kaisound868 I'll run it trough my rig. Just one more question: Are you in drop C?
@@ekmii I think its drop A#
@@ekmii Near the top of the discussion page he mentions drop A#
Great job mate!
I wish you could make guitar lessons-- How did you create the background???? Your leads sing cosmic harmonic overtones in the music multi-verse....I like the heavy sounds ....but the clean parts are so musically,,, You could create a guitar course I am transitioning from classic rock to new metal or what your playing ,,,What is this type of music called????????????? The clean chords then the leads are outer worldly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks dude, huge compliment but I'm not cut out for teaching I don't think! I write mostly by noodling around an idea and try and develop it from there. Feels clunky a lot of the time sadly. I guess this song is hardcore? But has a lot of influences in it. The Ghost Inside, Periphery, The Eagles, Guns n Roses, Bleed from Within, I think most of them can be heard here, but the core of the song is The Ghost Inside for sure.
That demo was insane!! But those pups both sound Hella compressed. No winner is totally right, they both have their... oh forget it I'm going to top myself over this. Going with the Warpig's I guess 🐼⚡
They definately both drive the amp sim hard, but the ragnarok push it a chunk harder I’d say, wouldn’t say they’re over compressed though, that just may be my hand being aggressive!
@@kaisound868 Yea I keep hearing conflicting opinions on whether both sets are overly compressed (cocked wah sound) but my ears don't hear over compression, just more than other pups by BKP. You're reply is fresh air, glad to hear you think alike.
You have any opinions on the warpig's?
I was a hair away from having a Rag bridge and Silo neck wound up, but I've got a quite opinionated guitar tech at a licensed bkp dealer not too far from me saying getting a mixed set is pointless. Insists calibrated sets compliment each other and that the warpig set sound incredible. He sounds warpig biased dude, idk 🤔
@@Alx61710 sadly I’ve never used the war pig but I doubt from BKP you’d get anything that would sound ‘bad’. To a degree about the cocked wah you kind of have a point but that’s the sound of modern djenty stuff in a way. Best bet is download the DI files in the description and try them on your setup to see how they sound. The non-calibrated set I am surprised by, but email BKP themselves and they’ll give you an honest answer too.
@@kaisound868 I appreciate cha man, thanks a million..
I'm gonna email BKP and see what Tim's peoples think about it.
I've heard way too many positive things about the Rags/Juggs, I think I'm communicating with a calibrated warpig biased individual.
Oh and that idea of running the DI track through my setup - dude 💡 if ever 🤯
Thank you!
Where can we get this drum backing track to play around with!? It’s sick af!!
Think it’s in that Dropbox link!
@@kaisound868 where’s the drop box link?
@@goosethebird9666 www.kaisound.co.uk/downloads
I wasn't expecting this to be as heavy as it was haha sounded good man. Which did you prefer? - edit i guess i shouldve watched the whole video lol
Glad you liked it! Ragnarok for my stuff, but may put a Juggernaut in my 7 string!
Great stuff mate!! Thanks a lot for the qualitative comparison. I was actually hesitating between the 2 and my preference still leans towards the Ragnarok. Cheers!!
Thankfully they are both good choices!
@@kaisound868 btw I was wondering: what string gauge are you using? What's the tuning in this video? Thanks!!
@@IThinkILostMyHeadach These will have been Ernie Ball, Beefy Slinkys, Tuned drop A#
@@kaisound868 11-58?
@@IThinkILostMyHeadach 11-54, would usually go heavier but thats what I had in the drawer!
which ones are the solid black ones? those are def tastier imo
Hey dude, the black ones were the Juggs
@@kaisound868 thanks bro!!
preferred ragnarok
Link for the DIs is down :/ Would you mind sharing them again please ?
Hey, I just checked and it’s still up for me? Through my website into the downloads section, juggs vs raggs, takes you to a dropbox
@@kaisound868 must have been my browser... Tried with my phone and it worked. Thank you so much !
This will help with choosing the right one for my gear. Greatly appreciated 👌
quick question, i got the same guitar and i want to put a set of juggernauts in
what string spacing did you choose when you bought the pickups?
Raul-Valentin Apostu hey, whichever the Fender version is, think it’s the 53mm but on the BKP site they tell you to measure from E to E to check!
@@kaisound868 yea, i wanted to order the pickups from thoman, and it says 53 mm f spacing
Thanks mate
I have an Ibanez RG6003 and went with the 53mm.
so which one ppl to u think sounds tighter and with more clarity the difference is minimal i still dont know
Best bet I’d say is download the DIs and run them into whatever you usually play. You’ll be more aware of the differences that way. Juggernaut to me is tighter and more defined.
awesome video...was looking at juggernauts and it helps that you're using my exact guitar in this vid😁
Quick follow up questions: did you have to do any routing to fit the pickups and which height did you select for the BKP's?
Frank Bongiovanni so this guitar came to me with the Juggs. But it looks like no routing was done! Height wise I just adjusted until I felt I had got the maximum volume with no loss of sustain.
@@kaisound868 perfect man I appreciate the reply! Happy Holidays and keep up the hard work!
Modern Times shirt, great playing, solid real world tonal comparison. 👍
Not gonna lie. Love the T-Shirt. Loved the beer too.
Kai Sound they’ve got great beers and great artwork as well. What woods are used in the body of that guitar? Kind of looks like dark stained mahogany. I’ve got an RGA121 with a maple cap over mahogany and I’m torn between the two pickups. Leaning towards the fatness of the juggernauts since I know the maple cap on my guitar will give the overall response more “snap”. Any thoughts?
HomeBrewedHero hey dude, pretty sure it’s an alder body with a rosewood cap. It’s a RG721 premium, specs will be out there somewhere! I think you’ll be happy with either. I’d say if the guitar is lacking in something that one of these seems to have, then go for that pickup? I know that’s kind of vague but my knowledge on tonewoods isn’t sufficient to give you a solid answer. Hopefully that helps?
Kai Sound no sweat, my setup currently has EMG 81/85 and they’re just not my thing anymore. They’re too compressed and clinical to my ear. The ragnaroks seem to be a little more compressed than the juggernauts. Just my ear, but they both sound great in that guitar. Thanks for sharing the specs. Rosewood is a little darker sounding than maple so that’s good to know! Thanks again and have a great one!
Would I be able to get the tabs for this? I don’t mind shooting you some money either for the trouble! It sounds killer bro 🤘🏼
Thanks man! Sadly no tabs for this one, but I appreciate the offer. The tuning is drop B flat to start you off if that helps!
@@kaisound868 do you happen to remember what string gauge were you using more or less?!
@@orionperez5803 I reckon they were Ernie Ball 11s, the mammoth slinky or something similar? Whatever their 11 set is with the chunky lows!
quality content, thank you
Quality comment, thank you too!
Are these pickups worth it?
Joe MArabella I wasn’t sure. But then I did a comparison where I played a set of Dimarzio pickups on a Ibanez iron label and honestly the difference was huge. When I can afford it I will get a Juggernaut for the iron label 7 string. Big difference!
My opinion. We come to hear the pickups, not the drums. So I'd make vids like this where you drop the drums to show how it sounds mixed but then bring it back to just guitars. Hard to hear notes clarity when there's drums slamming. Sounded hood all together but still just saying future, please just separate the drums from the guitars. Amazing playing though.
Thanks for the comment, I feel that leads to videos that end up being quite long, so for this one I have the DIs in the description as that would let you really check things however you think is best, with your own amps or software. Thanks for the feedback though! I do this on some videos, but not all!
@@kaisound868 yea for sure. I'll be making vids hopefully soon like yours one day. Lol.. just bought bias fx 2 elite software but after hearing your tones I'm just hoping and praying bias fx 2 elite version can make those tones. I got it 80% off so was like why not.. but now I realize they have a metal expansion I need that's another $109 for me to upgrade.. 😒 hate being broke and trying to get going. Lol.
im thinking the juggs for rhythm and music man majesty for leads... personally
The link is dead :(
Do you have tabs for this??
Sadly not, I never transcribe anything I write!
Excellent vid - just a few things
1) You only appear to play the bridge pickup of the Ragnarok (apart from one small part when you switched to middle position)
2) You played parts using the Juggernauts with mostly bridge and some middle position.
3) Are both neck pickups poo?
4) Again, great vid and thanks for the effort you put in here.
5) Great tune and superb playing, mate. Nice one!
1. The video doesn’t match the audio sadly, the jugg is closer.
2. Think the clean bits were either position 2/4 which if remember the wiring is outer coils either in parallel or series?
3. Wouldn’t have said so no!
4/5. Thanks!!
Best pickup comparison I've seen by far 👌
Thanks dude!
4:12 is so beautiful clean---dreamy sound what pick up is it please??????????????? And @ 5:10 into th video fantastic clean dream sound _Amazing what is that Humbucker ?????????????? That could be a movie score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So it looks like its the Juggernaut, position wise it will probably be a mix of position 4 and position 2, so split coils and maybe position 2 on the right and 4 on the left or something. Sadly I'm not 100% sure!
Dig the track
Please tell me this is a song
Just something I wrote for this video!
Thanks so much for this. I’ll be getting the ragnarok.
I did subscribe to your channel
ragnarok all day
what tuning is this?
Drop A#
@@kaisound868 I'm impressed an Ibanez (thin neck) can hold such tunings. I'm asking because I'm about to play (and possibly buy) this very same guitar tomorrow.
@@dokterkarel it’s as low as it would go and the strings are really thick. I think in an ideal world I wouldn’t have less than a 26.5” scale to go this low, and drop B feels about right, maybe drop C. Otherwise the strings stop feeling like strings to me, and feel like cables
@@kaisound868 I had an ibanez baritone 26.5" until a couple of years ago. Tuned in B with 13-59's. Tuning was tight and stable but indeed, the strings were steel cables.
@@dokterkarel yeah I think I had mammoth slinkys for this video, and it’s just not comfy. I generally like thick strings, like 1 up from standard for a given scale length, but once you get that thick it just doesn’t feel like a string anymore! I think a iron label 26.5 with a pick-up swap is the way to go. And get a tech to do the fretwork. This guitar does play lovely though. It’s worth more than you’d pay!
Which ones were the all black ones?
Jack Florio the black ones were the Juggernauts and the white and black were the Ragnaroks! Hope that helps!
Tight modern times shirt
I can’t fucking find it in my house. Serious stress, I loved that shirt!
@@kaisound868 I have a track named blazing world, and another named city of the sun 😂
I played a few jugg sets ands they sounded like ass with a heavy low mid boost. Barely sounded decent in really low tunings. It was probably due to Misha's three fingered picking style before he corrected it at the time of it's creation.
What's your tuning?
Drop A#
I liked the track but if the sound was from what you were playing in the video then you didnt test them right. You had one selector set to the bridge pickup then the other in the middle position which could be a plethora of different combinations, split, singleb ect...
Next time test em both exactly the same
Bobby Wright hey dude. So filming wise, you’re right. Different positions. But audio wise they are 100% the same. So what you hear is identical pickup positions. I try and keep things visually accurate too, but sometimes they skip through!
What's your name on Spotify?
Surprised on how similar they were!
If you download the DI's you may find that they are more different dependant on amp settings. I felt more of a difference than i heard strangely!
Both active or passive.. ?!
Both passive
@@kaisound868 thx bro...
Ragnarok have more snap
Riffs af