This is impossible to judge just from listening I think bc the sound contrast is hyper marginal in the cheap headphones I'm hearing this on if was at home through desk (at around 3 am when off work n home will try) through my interface and monitors I'll know for sure. But I think the real answer is in response and unless you are the one attempting to engage various dynamics and tech you dont truly know those things. That being said tough choice to make lol just nabbed a 7er ninja at crazy price that is a few years old at least I think (nrf7 200 charcoal burl) it was multiscale and 7 and super low price point so done impulsively because I'm planning on getting either skerv raptor 8 or 808s aristides or creating a Vader 8 through kiesel but gna take a year to save money n justify buying it and just wanted something good enough to test the multiscale and extended range waters before dropping 3 to 5k on an 8. Anyways it has the lowest quality legator passives in it below the hives the open coil ones. They arent terrible but my 6 string has emg85 so by comparison meh. Was thinking about the obvious active replacement Fishman moderns but only 2 knobs and 3 way switch so rather not have that hassle installation process. Also I prefer passive on this guy bc I'll do most clean on it when possible bc it will be in standard or drop a (and is easy to change my 6 is FR and stays in cgcfad) so anyway yeah long winded way of saying I cant decide if shld do nazgul sentient as most efficient option orbkp then between bootcamp or aftermath or even ragnarok lol. No way to try them all
Both are great metal pickups. Very tight on the low end and can handle tons of gain with ease. At this point, it's just a matter of personal preference of what you pick. There is a significant price difference too, and Ragnaroks sound a bit better in certain areas for me, but for the current guitar upgrade i'm doing (i'm swapping out DiMarzio Sonic 7 and PAF 7 in my Ibanez Apex II), i think Nazgul-Sentient combo might be it. However, if i was upgrading a guitar like a 3000€+ Mayones you have, i'd almost surely go for the pickups of the highest quality and perfect in sound for what i want. Exceptional playing, thanks for the demo!
Great job man; some of the coolest riffs I've seen in a while. It seems to me that, modern/prog/djent metal can be achieved without forking over $380 USD for a set of BK Rags. I was almost certain that the Nazgul/Sentient was the route I'm going to take on my Epiphone LP Prophecy (EMG 57/66), but then I saw the Ragnaroks. Your video helped convince me that I can save a few hundreds of smack-a-roos by taking Sey-Duncs path. Thank you for the demo video.
How's the Ragnarok for black metal? I am aiming to get a custom guitar and was thinking of that possibility, but I also like the Seymour Duncan Black Winter a lot. I wonder if they'd go well together.
I really didn't like the nazgul I tried it at a Tom Lee music centre in a KM-II, it sounded too flobby and it wasn't tight enough. The ragnarok sounded kind of like a pushed nazgul, did you change the patch at all? Eq differently? I'm concerned they sound identical
hey ! I didn't changed the patch at all, but I can't say that they sound the same, the ragnarok sounds more tight, more defined, and it fits way better with my guitar, + the split coil tone sounds way better with the attack Imo :) we can not really hear that in the video because I think I made a wrong preset choice that doesn't really show up the guitar personality
@@MorganThomaso I have the Rags and there’s a big audible difference to my ears. I think the high end of the spectrum was clearer with the rags also definitely tighter just have the classic bk tone. I just bought some Juggers for my music man axis baritone… can’t wait to put them in. Nice video my dood 🤘
I didn't hear much difference. How is the comparison in the room? UA-cam compresses audio too much! I put a Nazgul in one of my guitars and love it but want to try the rocks!
That playing was incredible! I personally really liked the Nazgül and Sentient set I had in my old Jackson JS22-7, and I kinda wanna get a new set for another seven string, but I’m honestly not sure if I should use the one I currently have, or wait until I can get another straight fret guitar and put it in there. Speaking of the pickups, do you find different amplifiers or different patches in a digital modeler to work best for each pickup, say for example, the Ragnarok set sounding better than the N/S through a certain amp or patch, and the N/S sounding better than the Ragnarok set through another amp or patch?
Im on the verge of putting a ragnarok in the bridge and juggernaut in the neck of my schecter c1 classic. they are in the shopping cart, I just cant seem to pull the trigger yet LoL. Wondering if they will mix well.
Ca c'est une vidéo que j'attendais de ta part :D Mon opinion : Le rag est plus compressé, moins tight, a moins de high mid et le Nazgul plus tight et plus de mid. Mais ça reste des nuances, ils sont plus proches que je l'aurais imaginé. Enfin à travers la compression de youtube en tout cas :)
mon avis est entièrement l'inverse haha je trouve que les SD sont baveux dans les aigus et le rags bien plus précis et justement tight, bien mieux pour les sons avec peu de gain ^^
En fait c'est bizarre. Je trouve la réponse du Rag plus rapide sur les palm mute, donc il bave moins et "s'éteint" plus vite, mais malgré ça je trouve le son beaucoup plus fat et avec moins de mid, c'est en ça que je le trouve moins tight. Mais je vois ce que tu veux dire.
The sentient Nazgul sounds great for shredding, but the bare knuckle Juggernauts are just so bouncy, going with Periphery on this one. Solid vid though.
this was sick.. wish I could learn to finger tap like that.. mine always sound squacky haven't figured out the best way to setup my tones to get rid of that an my sound be clearer... would love some tabs to this stuff though XD
I'm really trying to like the Ragnaroks, and for the most part I do, but I can't get past that ice-pick sound on the top layer. I wonder if I could just roll of the highs on my amp and level that out.
Hey Morgan, great video! Excellent demonstration! Which set would you recommend me for a luthier 7 string guitar Les Paul model in mahogany with tremolo? Nazgul/Sentient or Seymour - Jupiter or Bare Knockle Ragnarock? I play Black Metal with a little Death Metal. Thanks for the video!
hey ! It's a pretty tricky question as i don't really know your personal tastes for mics, but i'll definitely go for BKP, but again that's a personal opinion :)
@@codcade oh I know lol thats why I'm asking. I just bought a Music Man JP15 and I love it but wanted something different like a mayones but don't know if it's worth the money
What actually is this L + R track, it sounds much better when you do it, are you playing twice and then splitting or just copy and paste and split the track?
@@MorganThomaso Im on the verge of putting a ragnarok in the bridge and juggernaut in the neck of my schecter c1 classic. they are in the shopping cart, I just cant seem to pull the trigger yet LoL. Wondering if they will mix well.
@@MorganThomaso how are the juggs compared to the aftermaths? my aristides has a holy diver/emerald, the emerald is nice but holy diver feels too weird for a 7 imo.
The difference in person nigh be greater, but here they sound kinda close. In my opinion, I prefer the Nazgul, and it's not because it's cheaper. It's smoother in the high end, but still clear. I could totally change my mind with a different guitar and/or amp sound.
Nice demo man. Just a comment: All your BKP clips are slightly louder than the SD clips (both isolated and when played in a mix), this makes the comparison trickier, plus people will pretty much always prefer the louder clips despite tonal differences. Good work though !
As an owner of both bkp along with dimarzios...SDs and prs pickups etc. BKP are always louder then the other brands regardless of output comparsions between pickups. It is actually kind of cool this captures that. I like BKP but i feel they are just hype at the moment. I def favor my Duncand and dimarzios.
That's a good catch! I didnt notice it till closer to the end. And it's so true for some reason as guitarists we tend to lean towards the louder object in a comparison, it always tricks our ears into sounding clearer, tighter, etc.
I like Nazgul at 2:03 but with your playing ability I don't think it matters much which pickup, they are both close, Ragnarok to my ears is more noisy which might benefit pinch harmonics and super low tunings ROCK ON!
The real battle:
0:28 vs 0:35
0:41 vs 0:47
0:56 vs 1:09
1:02 vs 1:15
1:43
1:54
2:03 vs 2:09
2:23
Thank you!
Great performance!
thanks man :)
@@MorganThomaso
This is impossible to judge just from listening I think bc the sound contrast is hyper marginal in the cheap headphones I'm hearing this on if was at home through desk (at around 3 am when off work n home will try) through my interface and monitors I'll know for sure. But I think the real answer is in response and unless you are the one attempting to engage various dynamics and tech you dont truly know those things. That being said tough choice to make lol just nabbed a 7er ninja at crazy price that is a few years old at least I think (nrf7 200 charcoal burl) it was multiscale and 7 and super low price point so done impulsively because I'm planning on getting either skerv raptor 8 or 808s aristides or creating a Vader 8 through kiesel but gna take a year to save money n justify buying it and just wanted something good enough to test the multiscale and extended range waters before dropping 3 to 5k on an 8. Anyways it has the lowest quality legator passives in it below the hives the open coil ones. They arent terrible but my 6 string has emg85 so by comparison meh. Was thinking about the obvious active replacement Fishman moderns but only 2 knobs and 3 way switch so rather not have that hassle installation process. Also I prefer passive on this guy bc I'll do most clean on it when possible bc it will be in standard or drop a (and is easy to change my 6 is FR and stays in cgcfad) so anyway yeah long winded way of saying I cant decide if shld do nazgul sentient as most efficient option orbkp then between bootcamp or aftermath or even ragnarok lol. No way to try them all
came for the pickups, stayed for the playing
I wish you'd included a clip of the Nazgul setup doing the chugging riff...
Definitely going for the bare knuckle. Thank you!
Beautiful.
Had to say it.
Very well written.
I was left amazed at the closing portion.
Came for comparison,, but blown away by your playing. Incredible guitarist! That lead guys,,,,, am I right?!!
I get some Vildhjarta vibes from your riffs/mix, very cool
Both are great metal pickups. Very tight on the low end and can handle tons of gain with ease. At this point, it's just a matter of personal preference of what you pick. There is a significant price difference too, and Ragnaroks sound a bit better in certain areas for me, but for the current guitar upgrade i'm doing (i'm swapping out DiMarzio Sonic 7 and PAF 7 in my Ibanez Apex II), i think Nazgul-Sentient combo might be it. However, if i was upgrading a guitar like a 3000€+ Mayones you have, i'd almost surely go for the pickups of the highest quality and perfect in sound for what i want. Exceptional playing, thanks for the demo!
Great job man; some of the coolest riffs I've seen in a while. It seems to me that, modern/prog/djent metal can be achieved without forking over $380 USD for a set of BK Rags. I was almost certain that the Nazgul/Sentient was the route I'm going to take on my Epiphone LP Prophecy (EMG 57/66), but then I saw the Ragnaroks. Your video helped convince me that I can save a few hundreds of smack-a-roos by taking Sey-Duncs path.
Thank you for the demo video.
How's the Ragnarok for black metal? I am aiming to get a custom guitar and was thinking of that possibility, but I also like the Seymour Duncan Black Winter a lot. I wonder if they'd go well together.
did you find out? I currently have a black winter loaded lp but thinking of going ragnarok for my next guitar, also into black metal
@@paliccolo No, I did not. Although I am basically set for the Ragnaroks.
I really didn't like the nazgul I tried it at a Tom Lee music centre in a KM-II, it sounded too flobby and it wasn't tight enough. The ragnarok sounded kind of like a pushed nazgul, did you change the patch at all? Eq differently? I'm concerned they sound identical
hey ! I didn't changed the patch at all, but I can't say that they sound the same, the ragnarok sounds more tight, more defined, and it fits way better with my guitar, + the split coil tone sounds way better with the attack Imo :) we can not really hear that in the video because I think I made a wrong preset choice that doesn't really show up the guitar personality
Nazgul is anything but flubby.
@@MorganThomaso I have the Rags and there’s a big audible difference to my ears. I think the high end of the spectrum was clearer with the rags also definitely tighter just have the classic bk tone. I just bought some Juggers for my music man axis baritone… can’t wait to put them in. Nice video my dood 🤘
I didn't hear much difference. How is the comparison in the room? UA-cam compresses audio too much! I put a Nazgul in one of my guitars and love it but want to try the rocks!
Which one actually has better dynamics and pick attack..?
they're both different, it will depend on your preferences but i personnaly prefer the ragnaroks :)
That playing was incredible! I personally really liked the Nazgül and Sentient set I had in my old Jackson JS22-7, and I kinda wanna get a new set for another seven string, but I’m honestly not sure if I should use the one I currently have, or wait until I can get another straight fret guitar and put it in there. Speaking of the pickups, do you find different amplifiers or different patches in a digital modeler to work best for each pickup, say for example, the Ragnarok set sounding better than the N/S through a certain amp or patch, and the N/S sounding better than the Ragnarok set through another amp or patch?
Im on the verge of putting a ragnarok in the bridge and juggernaut in the neck of my schecter c1 classic. they are in the shopping cart, I just cant seem to pull the trigger yet LoL. Wondering if they will mix well.
verdict?
Hi Morgan!
Me again.
My Ragnarock 7 String Set has just arrived at my home.
Thanks for the explanations!
Hi, very cool sound, what kind of amplifier do you use on axe?
hey thanks ! I think it was a fas modern on this one :)
Great demo to be 4 years old at this time 😂 do you remember what amp did you used with the axe fx?
Ca c'est une vidéo que j'attendais de ta part :D Mon opinion : Le rag est plus compressé, moins tight, a moins de high mid et le Nazgul plus tight et plus de mid. Mais ça reste des nuances, ils sont plus proches que je l'aurais imaginé. Enfin à travers la compression de youtube en tout cas :)
mon avis est entièrement l'inverse haha je trouve que les SD sont baveux dans les aigus et le rags bien plus précis et justement tight, bien mieux pour les sons avec peu de gain ^^
Haha, je suis un peu étonné quand même, quand on connait le niveau de sortie et de compression du Rag :o
En fait c'est bizarre. Je trouve la réponse du Rag plus rapide sur les palm mute, donc il bave moins et "s'éteint" plus vite, mais malgré ça je trouve le son beaucoup plus fat et avec moins de mid, c'est en ça que je le trouve moins tight. Mais je vois ce que tu veux dire.
What's the tuning my friend?
hmm BK Ragnaroks or BK Aftermaths for 7 string?
What scale lenght is this?
Great Playing :)
The sentient Nazgul sounds great for shredding, but the bare knuckle Juggernauts are just so bouncy, going with Periphery on this one. Solid vid though.
this was sick.. wish I could learn to finger tap like that.. mine always sound squacky haven't figured out the best way to setup my tones to get rid of that an my sound be clearer... would love some tabs to this stuff though XD
Just keep practicing brother, im sure youl get them down soon, good thing is practicing is fun lol
I loved those big chords and melodies. Thats the kind of dropped shit i like.
Too many bands do breakdowns and chugs only
fearofthedark88 thanks a lot dude !
Where is the sentient solo clip? I want to hear that vs ragnarok! Thanks for the video
Do you have any patches uploaded for the axe fx?im jealous of that tone
not yet ;)
Ok well looking forward to it if it does lol.in the meantime I’ll be purchasing your albums
Hé you the guy from visenya and the djent FB page! Awesome Nice demo btw!
I'm really trying to like the Ragnaroks, and for the most part I do, but I can't get past that ice-pick sound on the top layer. I wonder if I could just roll of the highs on my amp and level that out.
Just eq it out in post. Most people do anyways.
Hey man what woods are you guitars made out of? Which pickup do you like better ?
This video definitely convinced me to buy the rags
What do you mean split coil?
Sick!! Which do like better? And what is the body and top wood on your guitar?
mahogany,top-flame maple 2A
Hey Morgan, great video!
Excellent demonstration!
Which set would you recommend me for a luthier 7 string guitar Les Paul model in mahogany with tremolo?
Nazgul/Sentient or Seymour - Jupiter or Bare Knockle Ragnarock?
I play Black Metal with a little Death Metal.
Thanks for the video!
hey ! It's a pretty tricky question as i don't really know your personal tastes for mics, but i'll definitely go for BKP, but again that's a personal opinion :)
Bare Knockle Painkiller?
Holy shit! Amazing playing man 🤘Subscribed
I say bareknuckle if you have the money and nazgul if you trying to save.and still want a good sounding guitar
Nice solo lines. that black screen in the end made it even more dramatic.
Sorry if I missed it, but what guitar is that?
mayones duvell 7 :)
Is the Nazgul designed for down tunings? Will it sound alright with standard tuning?
Yes it would it would cutt thru the mix really well
How do you like this guitar Price point wise. The ibanez rga looks pretty good for 1100 bucks roughly.
This is a mayones duvell which is three times as much as an Ibanez 😂
@@codcade oh I know lol thats why I'm asking. I just bought a Music Man JP15 and I love it but wanted something different like a mayones but don't know if it's worth the money
@@DanTheGolfer mayones are amazing, but if it is worth it is all up to you, I'd say yes, but I'm too poor anyway
Ragnarok won this one flat out and I say that as someone who likes the Nazgul
damn u melodically djent and shred fantastically. ♡
What actually is this L + R track, it sounds much better when you do it, are you playing twice and then splitting or just copy and paste and split the track?
I'm just playing it twice and panning L and R all the way :)
Any chance of linking your Axe Fx patch to Axechange?
Nope
Amazing playing! Subbed
so what are your favorite pickups so far? (doesn't have to be the ones you demo-ed here)
to be honest I really dig the ragnaroks, I also like the juggs and the aftermaths ^^ I took juggs for my next mayones :)
@@MorganThomaso Im on the verge of putting a ragnarok in the bridge and juggernaut in the neck of my schecter c1 classic. they are in the shopping cart, I just cant seem to pull the trigger yet LoL. Wondering if they will mix well.
@@MorganThomaso how are the juggs compared to the aftermaths? my aristides has a holy diver/emerald, the emerald is nice but holy diver feels too weird for a 7 imo.
What was that song you closed with? I need it
it's a song from the future album I'm about to release with my band ÆRIS :)
le nazgul se demmerde bien vu le prix par rapport à un ragnarok. Quel est ton préféré Morgan ?
clairement le ragnarok ! plus organique et moi baveux :)
Love that riff starting at 0:56. Is it from a specific song?
one of my demos :) not shared the song yet ^^
The difference in person nigh be greater, but here they sound kinda close. In my opinion, I prefer the Nazgul, and it's not because it's cheaper. It's smoother in the high end, but still clear.
I could totally change my mind with a different guitar and/or amp sound.
think so too, you can do the fine in the amps eq, they are more ballanced onn all notes. that rags 0 chug sounded like a talk box "a"
Nice demo man. Just a comment: All your BKP clips are slightly louder than the SD clips (both isolated and when played in a mix), this makes the comparison trickier, plus people will pretty much always prefer the louder clips despite tonal differences. Good work though !
As an owner of both bkp along with dimarzios...SDs and prs pickups etc. BKP are always louder then the other brands regardless of output comparsions between pickups. It is actually kind of cool this captures that. I like BKP but i feel they are just hype at the moment. I def favor my Duncand and dimarzios.
That's a good catch! I didnt notice it till closer to the end. And it's so true for some reason as guitarists we tend to lean towards the louder object in a comparison, it always tricks our ears into sounding clearer, tighter, etc.
Sick riffs... I love my Nazgul set, but damn the Bareknuckles sounded good.
Great playing dude!
For the price, Nazgul/Sentient... Roll off a bit of the low end with an EQ 👌
You are a Seymour Duncan Artist ?
nop :)
I think about that first riff sometimes
Nazgul sentient all the way for extended range. I have a set in one of my guitars.
I do love Bare knuckle though, can't beat hand wired British gear.
Bouth sound great! Mad skills dude :)
Sounds sick man!
sick riff dude
thanks !
🤘
The Nazgul sounds so much better to me (in this)
Poppier and more clear
Woah!
Killer riffs!
hey, nice job wow (y)
Your bias showed heavily
still like juggernauts more than ragnarok
I think I prefer the Ragnaroks
I like Nazgul at 2:03 but with your playing ability I don't think it matters much which pickup, they are both close, Ragnarok to my ears is more noisy which might benefit pinch harmonics and super low tunings ROCK ON!
Ragnorak sounds like they have more of a punch to them
bass and treble are equilized more in them, i think 2 knob twists and the guls beat em out of the park(getting not ust even but more ballanced)
BRB gotta locate my face after being melted off 😵
Fuck insane playing ❤️
Nazgul is better,I have bkp aftermath,all I can say for the bkp is they have a midscooped bothering range for my taste,you rock bro \m/
nasty af riffs
took me sec thinking. i know you.
You should learn more odd-time signature Djentin'
That's from my first songs I did 3 years ago ^^ you can check my band VISENYA, it's way more recent :)
BK
How can we concentrate on the comparison with you playing like a fucking phenom?Made me want to practice instead of looking for pickups.lol...
My wife is going to let me buy a Duvell!...as soon as I can save $4000
Did you buy one?